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How can other open world games even compete?

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How can other open world games even compete?
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>>376894274
open world games are all the same but this one has zelda slapped on the title so it's 10/10 I guess
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>>376894429
>open world games are all the same

Nope. But if it makes you feel better keep on believing it.
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easy, by having monolith soft have a bigger role

See: xenoblade x having a better world
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>How can a game compete against the game of the decade in the same genre?

duh, they cannot.
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by having a higher mscore and having sold more
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>>376894274
wow all perfect ratings! this must be the greatest game ever made! other video games simply cannot compete!
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>>376896878
98 out of 98? lmao nope it's 98 out of 100! not perfect you fucking retarded mongoloid
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>>376894274
I still can't believe how great it is. Hope the new DLC story is great. I wish they had jap audio english text ready for launch though.
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Hmmmmm no idea OP but I want Jim Sterling to have a stroke.
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>>376894429
played a whole bunch of open worlds games
BotW is actually exceptionally better, but people refuse to believe that because fuck nintendo amirite? even though it's entirely possible because they have made countless classics over the years and to shit on their legacy is just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
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>>376896985
>broke his neck
can this really happen?
asking for a friend.
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>>376894274
I thought it was alright but definitely not a 10/10.

We have a bunch of legend of zeldas that are much better.
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>>376894274
Is it worth getting the Switch just for this?
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>>376897570
Right now? Not even close, game is worth like 30-35 max, console is worth less than 200.
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>>376897570
You can get a cheap Wii u and get Zelda if you dont want other games for the switch, you might want to wait for e3 if there is anything special
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>>376897714
I heard the console costs $270 each to make. Unless you're talking about its value to you personally.
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>>376897758
please donĀ“t give advices ever again
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>>376897570
Wait until they release the new and improved Switch. Either that or try your luck at emulation.
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>>376894793
you're right. they're better because they don't have a shitty weapon degradation system where the BEST items in the game still only last half a dozen hits before breaking.

and they typically have stories that aren't shit in addition to good gameplay.
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>>376897570
Most people bought a Switch just to play this game. I know I did. Best game I'vr played in the past 20 years. Although /v/ will forever be assblasted and indenial about it.
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>>376898623
Tryhard little shit with your regurgitated opinions, try playing the game someday.
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>>376897570
Yes. Even a marked up switch
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>>376897969
>the new and improved Switch

I mean, we all know it's going to happen, but has there been any news on that so far?
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>>376899563
Dude the fucking console has been out a matter of weeks. Going from previous history, they won't be annoucing a hardware revision for at least two years.
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>>376894274
By giving the player more than four kinds of enemy to fight.
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>>376899882
Stop lying on the Internet.
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>>376899815
>Going from previous history
...Nintendo will never do DLC.
...Nintendo will never charge for online.
...Nintendo will never make region lock optional.
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>>376897018
I dont enjoy sandbox Elements of any game and I far prefer worldbuilding and strong RPG mechanics
So unless it's better at those than Gothic, Morrowind, Ultima etc. I'm not interested
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>>376900047
I can understand the first two but
>...Nintendo will never make region lock optional.
oh no, nintendo has made region lock optional, oh how horrible
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>>376900308
BotW's world building doesn't match those games you listed sure it's a lot more subtle but for what world building it does have it's great
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>>376899929
How is he lying? Even Skyrim has more unique mob types.
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>>376900436
The main issue I have with sandbox sandbox games is that regardless of how much of a blast they are, they are ultimately a fuck around game which leaves a lot less replayability in my opinion.
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>>376900346
I wasn't implying that was bad. In fact, I love it.
It's just an example of how going by "previous history" tends to be a major pitfall.

While it seems unlikely, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Switch Mk.2 by Christmas 2018.
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>>376900498
And?
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>>376900663
It gets repetitive
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>>376897018
there are is only one group that constantly shits on Nintendo here on /v/.
dont argue with someone from NeoGAF
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>>376894274
>"Leave any video game genre to us."
>Nintendo, every year

How can any other company compete?
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>>376900738
Can Nintendo revive crpg genre?
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>>376897109
if the woman LITERALLY uses your face as a chair, then injuries can happen. Not sure about neck tho.
Facesitting requires restraint.
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>>376900805
Of course they can. They already revived third person shooters and open world games. They just need to make one.
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>>376900971
>Implying Splatoon comes even close to Max Payne
Not sure about that TPS part
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>>376901031
We can agree Max Payne is shit
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>>376894274
Sorry but pic related is the quintessential perfect open world RPG. It's pretty embarrassing that a 2-year-old game could still BTFO BOTW in terms of quests, story, gameplay, combat, etc.
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>>376901171
kek
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>>376901164
You are shit and so is your family
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>>376900738
>every year
Every other year Nintendo was flopping around gasping for breath while the other companies towered over it, poking it with sticks.
>"y'think he's gon' die?" Sony says to Microsoft
>it-ah looks dat way
>shood we chuck 'em back in the water?
>I fink so. B-but lets-uh let 'em flops aroun' some more
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>>376897882
Are you retarded? Its a fucking shield tablet
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>>376901171
loving every laugh
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>>376901171
Zelda isn't an RPG
It's competitors are things like Horizon, just cause, infamous etc.
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>>376901171
>in terms of quests
muh witcher vision
>story
muh politics and daughter
>gameplay
muh combat
>combat
muh do nothing but light attack and dodge
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>>376901497
Can you lay out your case for once instead of restoring to memes?
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why is thunderblight ganon such bullshit?
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>>376894274
r/ing the "Legend of Cena: Knuckle of the Shuffle" edit, pls.
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>>376897018
>countless classics
Top kek. Nintendo is the most overrated dev that ever was. It just has braindead fans and that is all, objectivly if you didn't grew up on their pile of lies and propaganda, ypu know that they are extremly boring and formulai. devs just looking to take your money.
Now with all the emulators and shit the count is up and people can actually see what their products are like and not just hear ypur lying nintexroid opinions on them.
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>>376902173
Try not being drunk next time, you type like a retard and it's hard to take you seriously when you try to play elitist douche
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>>376902309
Go play zelda for the 100x in your life and tell your boring family how awsome it is.
Leave this place forever
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>>376902437
>go play Zelda for the 100x in your life
Nothing wrong with playing good games.
>and tell your boring family how awsome it is
>boring
>family
Stop projecting
>leave this place forever
You first, you're drunk
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>>376894274
>make open world game with unique environments
>Have complete free movement with climbing and gliding
Wow that was so hard.
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>>376901171
It's barely a game
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>>376902542
I bet you told everyone in your pathwtic life how you got the switch and how the new zelda is the best game ever made. I bet everyone nodded and faked it's interest in you and your life. I bet you looked at that dusty piece of plastic today and praied to god that nintendo releases some info on e3 so you can sperg out to your normie friends and have a sense of being relative again.
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>>376902970
>the new zelda is the best game ever made
it is tho

if you're not some morbidly obese cuck anyway
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Fuck anyone who praises this game. Sure the game was OK and nice but holy fuck are you guys dick riders.

Zelda series has always been one of my favorite series but I'm not going to give any of their games a pass just because. In an unbiased opinion, the game is an 8. The lack of a proper story really killed me with this game. The other things in this game just piled on and I can't give this game anything higher than an 8.

Not sure if people these days are just so used to the recent shitty mediocre games that anything that's good becomes the best game ever. And it's true, so many games that released over the past few years were mediocre.
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>>376904226
Wow autism
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>>376904550
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>>376904657
he has a point tho
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>>376904226
sounds like a personal problem
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>>376904749
>>376904815
It's true, I'm just mad that people are giving the game a 10.
Whenever the games weaknesses came up, anyone who didn't praise the game automatically didn't have the game and their opinions disregarded.

In all seriousness, what do you guys think of the game.
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>>376900824
looks like im not trying that then
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>>376905063
u mad?
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>>376904226
I played BotW on the Switch and agree about it not really being much more than an 8/10. Sure, in terms of exploration, world interactivity and other open world and sandbox mechanics, it's a 10/10. But I don't need 120+ fucking shrines that all look the same giving me more stamina and hearts I don't need, or korok seed nr. 566 out of 900 for more inventory space. I want to find something unique when exploring, and there just isn't enough of that. Even a fucking dragon on top of a snowy mountain leads to another fucking shrine. The damage calculations in the game are pure trash; you either get hammered by trash mob goblins for 8 hearts or you upgrade your armor to trivialize damage. The main dungeons were fun (especially the one in the desert) but they were way too short and there's too few of them.
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>>376904226
>>376905063
You didnt play it.
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>>376905162
just dont be a retard.
>woman has to sit down carefully
>soft pillow that gives in a bit / dont lay down on a hard ground or use a bank/chair designed for facesitting (those exist)
>let the woman touch the ground with her feet or some poles to hang on to; basically dont let the center of gravity be her butt alone
there are more tips to give. As with everything sex related, be carefull. You cant be a nigger in everything.
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>>376905162
Do it on a bed with pillows. She probably sat on his face while he was laying on something hard. If you can, just have her sit on the lower portions of your face. Should be stronger....

The best part about face sitting is when only light to medium pressure is applied to your face instead of the whole chick crashing down on you.

Hope this helped.

Thus used to be my fetish
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>>376905291
I was until the topic shifted to face sitting
>>376905390
This hurt me for a few seconds. Then I realized you were trolling. You sure are bold anon.
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>>376904226
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>>376905369
Anon, you're not allowed to give botw anything other than a 10.
Timestamp or you didn't play it fag.
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>>376905843
Why do you fags think that anyone who doesn't agree with the praise is automatically a Sony drone?
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>>376899160
two. he made TWO fucking points and you didn't even try to counter them, you were just like "hurr thos ar just ur stopid opinyans durr"
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>>376905063
Nice try Sonyboy. You still have time to sell your nogamestation 4 and buy a Switch and actually play the game. Its okay we wont hate you.
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Personally, I found Darksiders II to be more entertaining. Running around an empty world fighting the exact same enemies over and over gets pretty repetitive. At least DSII has some variety.
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>>376905845
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>>376906026
Because sony ponies shift goalposts and they shitposted for months, 8/10 or overrated are fucking memes because they can't even point out any flaw.
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>>376906230
If anything I'm a nintenbro since I own both a wiiU and a switch. Don't have a ps4 but I definitely want one down the line. Unfortunately the only game I'm interested in is uncharted 4.
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>the chosen hero can't wield the sword made by the goddess herself because even though he used it before it gets to choose it's own master now

This pissed me off. It contradicts all the other games
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>>376906367
>autism
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>>376906367
This is the part where they say you didn't play enough.
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>>376903275
You keep defending that perchuse droid
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>>376906367
LOL it was just a joke.
Now people are gonna day you didn't play enough or some shit.
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>>376905843
DELET THIS NOW! WE NEVER DO THAT!
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>>376906367
Fucking weeb.
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>>376906367
No wonder you had problems with the game. Youre playing it in Japanese.
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>>376905369
Yeah, I have seen that video too.
Next time try to form your own opinion without backing it up with some youtuber review.
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>>376902741
Making a empty open world with only grasses and trees is hard you know, show some respect
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>>376906376
Most normies think the game is around an 8 or at least everyone I know does. I've yet to see anyone outside of the Internet give the game a 10.
Even though I liked the game I'm gonna have to call bs on your remark. Whenever people point out flaws or negatives about the game, you people just deflect and defend it.

Let's say the most talked about one, the durability system. How the fuck can anyone NOT complain about it. It was an annoyance and the majority agrees that it could've been way better yet people will say it's a good system. They start to sound like shills at that point.
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>>376905843

>I mean, when i bought my PS4 i had... Knack

Gets my everytime

Sonybros are pathetic
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>>376906519
>playing with English dubs

I stopped playing before they patched in Nip voices and English text. But playing with Nip text was fine too, it's literally middle school level with furigana.

>>376906603
Good thing I know Japanese then. Language wasn't a problem at all, nor was getting around in the game.
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>>376906367

>I played it for 120 hours

>Its still a 8/10

What are 10/10 games for you Anon?
Curious to play these games desu
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>>376902173
Recently replayed OoT and it's only slightly overrated, for its time it was amazing though. About to finish up my replay of Twillight Princess and it's even better than i remembered. You're right that there is some exaggerated fanboy-ism, but Nintendo does make some pretty fun games...
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>>376906781
>Most normies think the game is around an 8 or at least everyone I know does.
>ugggh it's anon, again, I bet he's going to try to talk me into buying a ps4 pro again. I don't even a have a 4K tv for fuck's sake
>hey bro, how's it hanging. What would you rate the latest Zelda game? It's so overrated right?
>I haven't played it.
>It's a fucking 8, man. Fuck Nintendo.
>Can we just play FIFA, dude?
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>>376906963
Not him but you can put in a ton of hours into this game without even realizing.
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>>376907016
I-Is this autism?
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>>376906963
119 hours were walking in the empty open world.
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>>376907016
That projection.

It goes something like this actually.
>hey you've been playing botw?
>yea, how far did you get
>Oh I did X Y Z. How you liking the game so far, what would you give it?
>it's nice, I like it.
>I know but I meant like a score
>well, so far it's like an 8, maybe a 9?

Normies don't only play sports games and cod. Cmon now anon.
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>>376906963
For a 10/10 it needs to be something I personally find very special, and everything has to come together exceptionally well. It can't be just that the gameplay is awesome, the OST incredible, or the easthetics in and of themselves. In games released in the last few years, the game that comes closest to 10/10 in my mind is Bloodborne. I think many /v/irgins can agree on that.
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>>376907336
>maybe a 9?
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>>376906781
>Most normies think the game is around an 8 or at least everyone I know does.
My parents come into my room just to see me play that game and they constantly fawn over how you can climb just about anything and how grand everything is. They also love the graphics (they mean artstyle but cant expect normalfags to know about that). And my friends from university are visiting me more frequently now, knowing I have the Switch and they can play Zelda on it.
I know these are just the people I know, but I still gonna call you out on your bullshit.
The only person so far who proclaims the game is overrated garbage and brings up scores like 6/10 is the dude who bought 4 PSVitas so everyone can play it with him. He is also my best friend and every time with him is magical
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>>376907373
I wish I had a ps4 but I can't honestly buy one just for one game. I bought bb for my cousins birthday and he played probably less than an hour on it.
It hurts but at least the game was like 15 bucks.
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>>376906651
I finished the game long before I saw the Joseph Anderson video. A lot of the points he brought up are spot on. If you can argue against the fact that damage calculations are shit, or that the durability system is flawed, then go ahead.
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>>376907660
>A lot of the points he brought up are spot on
Isn't it ironic when a critic can't take criticism?
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>>376894274
Real gamers who enjoy engaging story, immersive quests, well-written characters, beautiful handcrafted open worlds, and terrific gameplay would play TW3.

Meanwhile, manchildren, Nintentards who can't get over their nostalgia for OoT, little Timmy, and Sarah the gaymer gurl would play BOTW because it has Nintendogshit logo slapped on it.
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>>376906367
I think it's damn hilarious that nobody tried to argue against this guy's criticism as soon as he posted his switch.
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>>376906095
>>376899160
>>376898623

He's right though.
A Royal Broadsword Dura+ or better lasts for ages, almost as long as the glowing Master Sword

Its so easy to tell which of these kids have actually played the game, and which are just regurgitating things that have been parroted elsewhere.

If anything, I the most annoying thing I think, is the LACK of inventory space.
I'm now carrying Royal / Savage Lynel weapons / shields. Soldier's Shields just because I like the look of them.

For the first bit, Korok seeds were abundant, but you were only allowed 3 or 4 upgrades at any one time.
Only once finally figuring out the Lost Woods, did I manage to scrounge so inventory space for all my goodies.

However, I still feel like I'm leaving good stuff around.
I'd love to have 3 spaces for elemental wands, preferably upgraded. I'd love to have space for elemental swords, both one and twohanded.
I'd love to have space for a good spear for riding, but I'm honestly struggling for Korok seeds with 900 in the game.

BotW definitely has less polished parts.
However, it most certainly has shown how to polish many gameplay mechanics that has been done before, but in a less cohesive way.

BotW has shown developers how to tackle certain gameplay design issues.
BotW has yet to release the Hard Mode DLC IIRC.
Looking forward to it, hoping for an absolutely masochistic experience, all the way from start to end.
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>>376907534
If you simply can't afford a ps4 then that's that. But the ps4 has enough good exclusives to be worth it. If you don't have a capable gaming PC it can function perfectly as a multi-plat console as well, even though 60fps is a rarity, so all in all the hardware is good value.
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>>376907912
>29.88fps

lmao
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>>376907771
Well, he IS right about nintenbros being the most diaper-soiling schreeching autists of vidya fanboyism. And I say that as someone who likes a quality Nintendo game just as much as the other guy and pay for their products.
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>>376908031
I don't know, Sony is probably going to release PS5 soonish so buying PS4 now doesn't make a lot of sense.
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>>376907908
I think everyone just feels sorry for him actually owning one
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>>376908284
They weren't even Nintendo fans, Reddit called him out and said his video was shit so just dismissed everything they said and "youtube was better" because it was a circlejerk.
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>>376901171
reminder that this game won GOTY TWO years
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>>376907494
You're gonna call me out on my bs?

Idk about you but people don't visit me to play botw. Maybe the first week when it got leaked early. After that they didn't care about playing it other than one chick that was obsessed over it. I can't blame her since I know for a fact she loves collecting things but still she gave it an 8. I remember we all whipped out our phones and recorded her saying that. She put in 24 hours of playtime over that weekend and had Ironically gave it an 8. I can't imagine what her playtime was after she actually finished the game.


Anyway, I was just mini ranting. Point is, I know a ton of people since college is social. I swear I haven't met one person who deems it a 10. As for wowing your parents with games.... Idk what to say to that man. The only games my parents were ever wowed by were the last of us, the walking dead and some VR demos during the oculus alpha builds.
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>>376906924
They patched that in? That makes me so happy, i couldn't stand brit Zelda in the trailers, i prefer source material 99% of the time. Still waiting to get the game though, currently replaying the previous games.
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>>376905998
Didn't Charles Martinet voice someone in this game?
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>>376908053
Framepacing issues is currently a thing. With speedhacks dynamically changing frametime, the game runs closer to 1x across the field, but it still has framepacing issues.

If I were to take shots at Cemu, though, I'd much rather take shots at it for its resource consumption. Its completely bonkers.
24GB ram and an i5 3570k @ 3.4 gets completely floored.

BotW is still a gem, though.
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>>376908464
>being called out by Plebbit

I just watched the video and agreed with a lot of his critique. I haven't been following the inevitable shitstorm that comes after any criticism of BotW. Especially Jim Cucking Sterling and his 7/10 that really triggered the toddlers.
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>>376908753
Why don't you go buy the game on real hardware, Dane-cuck?
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>>376908512
>my anecdotal evidence is proof!
Stop
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>>376908031
That's the thing, I have a pc. I got on pc the same year the ps4 and xbone were releasing. I'm glad I did instead of getting a ps4 since all I heard about it was that it was weak. It was nonstop debates on YT about how the console will rival pc. I ended up getting swayed onto giving pc a shot and I don't regret it.
Ps4 pro released and proved how weak the hardware originally was.

Now I'm nervous about getting a pro since it feels like another ps is going to be a thing. I also want to upgrade my pc to play in 1440p or 4k.
It's not that I can't afford it, its just that I feel like it's too late in the game.

>>376908313
That's my fear. I don't want to get a pro and then boom a p5 is announced. Even now I'm not completely satisfied with the performance of the consoles. All I want is 60fps so my only option is the pro. A lot of console only games and Sony exclusives are rolling out and I don't want to kiss them.... But at the same time I don't want to jump the gun.
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>>376908970
I'm waiting for a revision 2 model.
Something that'll hopefully have a lower failure rate and less of a screen lottery.
As with the 3DS.
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>>376909030
Fighting anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence.

There's always surveys but even that's not always accurate. Either way, all I was saying was that I've only seen such praise online. Maybe all I know are casuals but I feel it says something.

Why don't you cut to the chase and give your score anon!
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>>376908512
>>376909317
you realy need to stop

typing like this

it makes you look

like a complete tool

and a faggot
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>>376909039
>I don't want to jump the gun.
Sony is just going to remaster PS4 games for the PS5 to fill up its library. Bloodborne remaster, re-releases with all the DLC, shit like that. I think Sony is going to create the PS5 because they want to counter the Scorpio but they might be waiting to see how it performs. It it flops then they'll wait, if it does well they'll release the PS5 earlier to kill it. They don't really have to worry about Nintendo because they cater to different markets.
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This series made me kek.

https://youtu.be/9xwA9VHIBOQ
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>>376909039
It is weak compared to better PC hardware, of course. It all comes down to if the exclusives are worth it while the console is still relevant, or if you'd rather wait for remasters on newer consoles or emulation. Even if you don't bring PC into it, the ps2 for example was clearly less capable than the xbox. But its exclusive library blew the xbox out of the water, even though the xbox too had its fair share of good exclusives.
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>>376909383

Breaking paragraphs to separate ideas and make it easier to read is typing like a faggot?
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>>376909383
Dam, now you're just arguing for arguments sakes. I only type like that because I'm a mobile fag.

>>376909434
Interesting. Guess I'm not getting a pro this year. I hope whenever RDR2 comes out it at least releases on pc at the same time. If Sony announce a scorpio rival around its release then I'll hold off and get that instead.
>>376909805
Even though I always got all 3 consoles each gen, I never really gravitated towards Xbox much. Had a ton of fun on the og Xbox but I realized later on in life that most of what I played weren't exclusives. Sony was always my preferred console of choice simply for the variety of exclusives they had. Xbox hard has any and Nintendo is stuck doing the same things most of the time.

Still, this is the first console gen where I didn't get all 3 consoles. Only have a wiiU and a switch for now. Holding off for what's to come.
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>>376910040
You overuse it though. You break up shit that could end up togather. Your argument isnt wrong, as im all for smart implemented paragraphs that structure everything on a visual level, but yours isnt smart.
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>>376910247

>he is a mobile fag
>he doesnt use Clover
you are premium retarded
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>>376910040
Thanks for defending me anon. That guys such a fag.
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>>376910353
>implying

Does the guy still update this app?
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ITT
>Reviews don't matter unless I say so!
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>>376910512
I also use Clover and when I press enter, it just skips to the next line and doesnt go full leddit.
See here.
Or here.

Why the fuck do you type like retards when its clearly you who is to blame? What the shit, man.
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>>376910512
Last update was like a few months ago and was needed because Hiroshitmoot broke some shit. There is no need to update an app for the sake of updating
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>>376910374
that niggas hands backwards.
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>>376894274
By having actual content other than a bunch of shitty collectables and samey puzzles
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>>376902753
Can I influence the story in anyway in BoTW? Because I could do that in Witcher.
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>>376911586
Let's just put this behind us.
And go fap.
>>376911642
I haven't updated this shit in years unless it was automatic? Last update I did was after they took the app off the play store. Getting in and out of threads was easier in the old build.
>>376911768
Idk what to say
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>>376911871
>muh cutscenes

lol
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>>376911949
its automatic if you download the app via fdroid, which is another app which drains your batter live needlessly.
Its not if you just own the app itself.
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>>376912256
Wow. So that's a "no." Majora's Mask was emotionally compelling, and both it The Witcher made the player care about the characters that existed within their respective worlds that you're trying to save. Nothing I've seen in regard to BoTW has convinced me that it's much more than a vapid sandbox.

So this game doesn't have a story, I guess, even though pretty much every game does these days. Can you at least do anything to make it seem like your decisions actually matter in the world like you can in the Witcher?
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>>376912772
holy shit, read some books you fucking pseud
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>>376894274
By not being Zelda games on Wii U or Switch. And banking on the fact that people don't limit themselves to playing a single game.
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>>376912934
Books don't provide interactivity. And apparently neither does Breath of the Wild.
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There's not even ANY fucking competition on a platform like the Switch, what the fuck kind of question is that?
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>In one thread autists are complaining BOTW has too much story
>In this thread autists are complaining the game doesn't have enough story
The extreme polarity of how desperate shitposters are with this game just lends more credence to how good it is.
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>>376913003
...right
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>>376894274
Hopefully by copying the shit out of Zelda. Every open world game should be teeming with interactables, invisible walls should be minimized, and the open world should be a place to house unique content instead of an excuse to reuse content.

Every open world game that doesn't do this has shit gameplay.
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>>376906963
So how many hours played makes a game 10/10?
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>>376894274
I just finished this last night.

Hyrule Castle was really neat, and had a lot of exploration to it. Ganon was a disappointing two stage boss. First stage was neat, second stage was dull as shit once you got past the "WOW SO HUGE AND EPICCCC"

Plus you don't even get the fucking bow and arrow afterwards. That would have been a nice little reward.
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>>376913052
It's more like people who like this game can't even answer whether this game has a story or not. It's like Dark Souls all over again.

"Why is this game good?"
"It's so HARD." / "You can CLIMB."
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>>376913312
it definitely has a story...
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>>376913312
>It's more like people who like this game
It's more like people who hate this game can do nothing more than literally make shit up to try and downplay anything positive about the game. Autism, only once.
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>>376913501
>hate this game

I haven't even played it. But those who have have made some shitty arguments as to why it's worth playing. Autism, not even once.
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>>376913052
Because the game has exactly as much story as it needed, so shitposters and nitpickers roll down the perfect pinnacle into the pits of extremism on either side.

Could've used a better ending, but the general approach of making the story basically a sidequest that you did at your own pace was spot on.
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>>376907373

I like bloodborne but it's also about an 8/10. The load times when I played it were shit, not being able to directly warp and endure those load screens 2-3 times before arriving at where you needed to go was complete shit on its own.

The base game was pretty shitty for people who enjoyed magic builds, Souls games still handle magic better in fact post-dlc, could probably make the same case for strength builds.

Everything else was perfect.
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>>376913812

Estus is also a better healing system than blood vials were.
Fromsoft always move a step back in each of their games.
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>>376913812
I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with Arcane initially. The basic projectile spell was DLC, and originally Augur didn't even critical so it wasn't a gun replacement.

>>376913975
They almost perfected it early on and then spent the rest of the series fucking it up.

Kind of like Zelda with OoT's formula, which is why BotW was so refreshing, it pulled them out of the death spiral that gave us SS.
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>>376913779
Agreed. Giving the game a traditional story driven mechanic with trigger points would have been completely detrimental to the open ended design that Nintendo were going for.

The way Nintendo breadcrumbed the story into the game, taking into consideration the themes and design of the world, was actually pretty clever.
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>>376913053
Salty /v/tards are so threatened by BotW they desperately have to bring up every other well-received game for..... some reason I guess... kek
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>>376894274
By having better stories, characters, and side quests.

Not looking like No Man's Sky helps too.
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>>376914573
I also like that we're back to Majora's Mask-style dungeon-crawling that actually affects people in the world. It's nice that in accomplishing your objective, you're helping out the local town in some tangible way that they actually recognize.

Felt like being a hero of the world again.
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>>376914275

They needed a different resource than quicksilver bullets for magic spells. People might shit on Dark Souls 3 but the mana estus flask swap mechanic was the best idea they'd had yet for mage builds. It's also worth mentioning how awful the invasion mechanics in Bloodborne were, you couldn't even invade other players unless they were summoning themselves.

Gems were a great idea for customization, but most of them had such poor scaling or attributes that you'd be gimping yourself to not just select flat damage. The game has a lot to improve on.
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>>376915115
Oh my god the gem grind.

There needed to be a shared inventory between characters like the Bottomless Box glitch in Dark Souls, that would've fixed so many problems with Bloodborne.

Making a new build sucks ass when you have to play through 70% of the game to get the one weapon you're actually built to use and then you have to unlock every chalice again to get the gems you need.
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>>376896946
And whats botw metascore again? Could you remind me?
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>>376894274
By having actual things to find? Why should I waste my time exploring an open world with those kinds of graphics in 2017, I just rushed the game and beat it in 3 days because I'm not autistic enough to explore a game with nothing to find just to look at shit.
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>>376917914
>I hate exploring

Ok.
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>>376918093
I'm autistic, so I prefer rules, thanks.
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>>376901031
I dont know why would you even try to measure Max Payne against a multiplayer game, Max only have the bullet time thing going on for it.
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>>376918093
No I enjoy it when I can find things like lore to read or hidden bosses.
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>>376918976
so you have shit taste and overrate Bethesda garbage, good to know, leave the thread.
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>>376917914
What the fuck are you talking about? BotW's world is literally filled with unique handcrafted content. I played for one hour the other day and found a minigame, a pitch black forest setpiece, a leviathan skeleton I'd been looking for, and an island that spawns an army of skeletons, in a playthrough that I've already spent a hundred hours on where I've beaten the game. The breadth and depth of content makes exploring more worthwhile than any other game, I can pick out map features to visit and I'm guaranteed to see something or get something.
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>>376919934
You seem mad that someone wouldn't enjoy walking around an empty map in 30 fps for no reason, lighten up anon.
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>>376920063
define "empty" :^)
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@376906746
what a piss poor shitposting attempt
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When will it happen?

When will the sony pony finally get past the Anger stage and finally accept that BOTW is GOTY, possibly GOTD ?


It's been 2 months, and their anus still hasn't healed from massive leakage. can't be good
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>>376919974
But is any of that stuff worth finding? I beat the game without even having a full row of hearts because they decided to make the final boss the easiest one for some reason. If I could find stuff that continued the main story that would make exploring worth it but that probably won't happen till DLC is released.
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>>376920347
>But is any of that stuff worth finding?
Moreso than a book or some simon says boss
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>>376920501
So a children's minigame, some setpiece when you already completed the game, and an island of enemies you already encountered make it worth it?
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>>376920347
What kind of question is that? Of course it's worth finding, it's good handcrafted content, it's the entire reason to play the game.

Are Super Mario Bros. 3 levels worth playing when you can warp to world 8 after the first castle?
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>>376920662
>a children's minigame
not an argument. Most writing in video games is childish anyway
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>>376920662
So, you being asshurt remove the fact that these are worthwhile to find?
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>>376920785
No I'm just trying to understand why you would find that more worth exploring for than hidden bosses or stuff that contributes to the main story.
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>>376921802
And what lore do you think LoZ could possibly have to find? You have to remember this is a Nintendo game they aren't known for their stories.

>Zelda in trouble
>You have to save her
>Defeat Ganon
>The End

Then the cycle repeats in another time.
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>>376920347
For fucks sake. You ADD riddled kids make me ill. I bet you just fucking fast travelled everywhere using the warp points and missed the entire point of the game.

I mean, fuck sake kid.
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>>376894274
>How can other open world games even compete?
By being on more than one platform.
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>>376922535
Funnily enough, there IS lore to find in the Zora domain.
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>>376923375
>I don't know what 'Exclusive' means?
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>>376923312
Wouldn't someone need to have a mental illness to enjoy walking around everywhere in a video game when it servers no purpose? Some people play video games for the story and combat not to look at pointless stuff like mountains.
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>>376923907
This whole 'empty world' meme is an utter desperate lie to try and find some kind of fault with the game. The game is packed with content and amazing discoveries to find.

The game literally exploded all over social media with people excitedly asking each other "what did you do? Where did you go? What did you see?". Everybody was having their own little crazy adventures.

After 160 hours I was still finding new shit everyday.

>B-but it doesn't do anything that other open world games don't do! Babby's first open world game! RRREEEEEEE!

Keep crying.

The joy of freedom and the exhilartion of exploration is unparalleled and no open world comes close to it.
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>>376924453
>replying seriously to some dumb smugposter
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>>376894274
WHAT THE FUCK I LOVE BORING AND EMPTY GAME WORLD, SHIT-TIER ENEMY VARIETY, NON-EXISTENT STORY AND HORRIBLY OUTDATED GRAPHICS NOW
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>>376894274
They don't. Open world games are a meme now.
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>>376924573
>empty
Why does this game attract such braindead shitposting? Is it because it is a masterpiece?
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>>376894274
I wonder how many of those """"""""""""""""""journalists"""""""""""""""""" are still playing the game.
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>>376924453
You sound like someone who worked on the damn game and now needs to defend it to your last dying breath. If you enjoy the game then good for you anon lets just end the discussion here because I find nintendo fans will never admit that their game isn't perfect, worse than Bloodborne fans.
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>>376894274
Easily. They market their game to adults as opposed to children
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As someone who loved the fuck out of BotW I do agree it's only slightly on the empty side.
good thing this game is post-apocalypse so it makes sense.
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>>376924823
So you have no argument to back up your claims other than your stupid anime reaction pics, and now try to save face in this terribly pathetic way before you get BTFO with facts and will probably think twice before talking shit about BotW unless it's a hate circlejerk.
Good to know, now get out.
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>>376908831
>shitstorm
All reddit did was point out where his criticism fell flat, and a lot of the video did. That you can't look past your biases to see them means that you either don't watch anything with a critical mind or you were biased in the first place.
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By seeing what it did right, what it didn't do well, and then going from there. Sorry if you were looking for a different answer.
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>>376924453
>social media

And why would any non normal fag here care about this?
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>>376925132
211th post best post
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>>376925332
What the fuck is a normalfag in your eyes dumb girlposter
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>>376908831
>7/10 is a bad rating

Did nintendo babies really get mad over this? Like damn children
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>>376896878
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>>376925598
Nah. I know there's a certain crowd on /v/ that loves believing that, though. It's silly.
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>>376925598
Yes. You're delusional if you think giving a great game a score of 7 which is average isn't terrible. You realize in the gaming industry 7/10 is barely worth your time with only 80+ being good, right? That's how it's been for a decade.
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>>376924453
This post reads like something from reddit, even used reddit spacing as well I see. I would tell you to go back but this place is a shit hole reddit space anyways now.
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>>376897517
Oh look Ambiguous statement #36

Care to say which ones? I'm sure there's a plethora of folks ready to debate that one
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>>376926185
>le "I don't like his opinion, so I'll accuse that he's a redditor" maymay
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>>376926418
Not him but I found Wind Waker to be more enjoyable. I didn't much care for the story in BotW and Wind Waker had a better Zelda and a cute sister to save.
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>>376926539
yup, this place really is a reddit now.
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>>376926707
>people like a game I don't? Reddit!
Why are post 2010 newfags so obnoxious.
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>>376926621
You're nuts.
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>>376894274
Why would I bother trying to discuss with Nintendofags? I might as well go discuss faults with the Dark Soul fans as well.
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>>376926921
How is the story in BotW any better?

>100 years ago blah blah blah
>You awaken to save Zelda
>Kingdom in ruins
>filler
>defeat Ganon
>Zelda is saved
>The End
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>>376907912
You do know Hard Mode DLC is just increasing the health and damage of the mobs right?
>No new attack patterns
>No new enemies
>No enemy relocation
Just play with shitty weapons and don't collect health upgrades and its basically the same thing.
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v/ will never get over Breath Of The Wild.

The ass sting will reverberate for the ages.

I will always remember the past 12 months on this board. Watching the same people who devoted so much time and energy to discrediting the switch and Breath Of The Wild - from spreading lies to cherry-picking screenshots - doing everything within their ability to make the console and the game seem bad.

Only to watch their jaws drop in horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.

Fucking glorious. I am actually sore with laughter.
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>>376928152
Thanks for reposting this I wanted to save this so I can copy paste it as well.
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>>376928042
Completely untrue. The latest update from Nintendo last week gave plenty more details on what the hard mode will include.
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>>376928152
This is true, all of it.
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>>376928152
It was pretty satisfying watching the shitposters get so thoroughly shut down by reality. Their angry tears sustained me.
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>>376928393
Care to share the info? I haven't been keeping up with the game and just been waiting for Splatoon 2 to drop before I bring out my switch again.
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>>376927393
Because there's a very thorough mono no aware atmosphere with a credible threat that we actually get to see. It's not like WW's Ganondorf where the only driving force of the story is KoRL being a plot-device character carrying the idiot ball.

In BotW, there's all these characters who knew you in the past or only hear of your legends, with actual problems that you're solving as part of your adventure. It feels like the quiet post-post apocalypse Wind Waker should have been but wasn't.
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>>376894274
The answer it's simple OP
They can't
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>>376899078

How can you do that when you are only ten?
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>>376894274
By letting players dress the male protagonist as a female slut
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>>376928645
Flying enemies for a start. Pic related.
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>>376928152
How can one post be so true?
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>>376906367
>Gray JoyCons
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>>376928819
Holy shit. Anon makes a joke about someone's age in the most immature way possible. You can't make this up.
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>>376929172
>Red and Blue joy cons on a grey system

I don't even want to know how you dress.
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>>376923668
>Exclusive to to children's console
Congratulations
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>>376929593
>wearing three colors is bad
>what are suits
>what are tuxedos
>what is everything in the world

Go back to your drug house you goth.
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>>376906367
So nobody even bothered to argue with you after you posted proof that you actually played the game. Typical nintendobabies they cant fall back on the "I bet you didn't even play it.' or "poorfag."
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>>376929838
How does Red, Blue, and Grey go together well? Do you also like those Neon Yellow joy cons as well?
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>>376929593
Forgot my Wendy pic
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>>376929697
It's okay, you have a completely irrational hatred of a video game company, we get it. Wipe the foam from your mouth.
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I'm currently going through it. Can someone explain to me how this is better than even Fallout NV or Skyrim, both of which are last gen? The cooking system is crude af, you can tell it was thrown in last second.

>Oh yeah just throw food near a fire it'll cook!
>Just throw shit into a pot to make dishes or elixirs!

On top of which, ingredients are fucking useless UNLESS they've been cooked into something instead of having a minimal effect on their own.

A lot, and I mean pretty much all except for Diamonds are entirely useless and only used for rupee fodder. Your weapon durability is fucking worse than Dark Souls 2 SotFS pre-patch.

Stamina is insanely pointless outside of preventing you from scaling any mountain/building you please. Why it was applied to both sprinting and charge attacks is beyond me. Clearly trying to pull in the Souls crowd but does a shit job at emulating what makes Stamina management good.
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Also the Divine Beasts are a fucking joke if they were supposed to be the true dungeons because the shrines are distractions at best. I seriously hope the one I did was just trash and the others are better.

This game is so fucking basic in terms of the gameplay elements it had, how anyone can see it as anymore than a 6/10 is beyond me. I'm not talking IGN scale, here. It's only slightly better than okay.
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>>376929172
It seems to be a cultural thing.

The neon joycons seems popular in the States while the Grey version seems to be the more favoured choice in Great Britain. I guess we're just more classy ;^)
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>>376930998
>the divine beasts are a joke!
>I've only done one
Which one did you just do?
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>>376931194
The one with the fish waifu
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>>376930883
It's about the freedom the game offers the player, the joy of exploration and the world building. There's nothing to touch BotW in those regards.
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>>376931302
Ah, yes I love exploring vast yet empty worlds with nothing but 5-minute shrines and small enemy camps peppered throughout. All while being unable to call my horse whenever I want because for some fucking reason they didn't like that you can do that in previous games of the series.

The meat of the game is when you're near the Divine Beasts and the areas surrounding them are not that big. It's insanely pointless to have all this empty ground.
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They can't.

This game gave me feelings I missed since the ps2 era.
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>>376931623
>empty
Every time
Play the game first kid.
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>>376932014
I am you stupid faggot. If you really think it's chock full of content in-between the Divine Beasts you're an idiot. Maybe because I didn't pay for the game nor did I buy a new console just to play it I'm not running on buyer's remorse.
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>>376930883
Nintendo babies will say you're supposed to waste your time exploring the world to find pointless shit, just rush through the game because the final boss is so fucking easy you will feel cheated if you waste time building up resources to fight him past defeating the Divine Beasts.
>>376930998
All the Divine Beasts are easy because its a children's video game, nintendo doesn't make challenging games anymore.
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>>376932198
Anon I played the game without a nintendo console nor buying it, and I found it amazing.

You just have shit taste, nothing to worry about.
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>>376932376
Taste has nothing to do with the objective fact that there isn't shit to do in the open world.
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They can actually fill the world with stuff to do that isnt:

>Fetch quests that garner zero reward, even toward completion percentage
>900 repetetive, braindead puzzles that garner no significant reward after half of them are earned. Filling the game with false content like this is shameful.
>Copy and paste stables all over the map
>Hey I wonder what I'm gonna get from this cool- oh its just another shrine

LONG way to go to being a 10/10. This isnt saying the game isnt fun or innovative, but you're blind if you think its the epitome of perfection
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>>376931623
>It's insanely pointless to have all this empty ground.

This complete nonsense. The game is packed with content. Do you want enemies jam packed every square foot? That would be fucking ridiculous. You need areas of space to let the landscape breathe and make the world feel real. The complaints levelled at BotW are cringe-worthy desperate nitpicks elevated to being pretend game-breaking faults.

>T-the game only has 20 odd unique individual enemies, each with various levels and around 3 elemental variations. The game is shit! It MUST be shit!
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>>376932689
But the game is mostyl empty anon. "Jampacked" with content? Are you delusional? Not to mention the story and voice acting are shit.
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>>376932689
The size is unnecessary for what's being offered within it. On top of which they removed the ability to call your horse wherever even though that was present in previous games which were nowhere near as big. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? Even then I have a horse with max speed and it's still a drag to trek about.

>You can fast travel
Only if you already got to the destination beforehand, not into unexplored territory.

>You need areas of space to let the landscape breathe and make the world feel real
Talk about fucking cringeworthy, you're actually trying to justify game padding.
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>>376933167
4 devine beast dungeons
7 towns with their own unique locals
120 shrines
900 fucking korok puzzles
Over 100 miniboss battles
Tons of mini games and treasure everywhere
Over 70 sidequests
Yiga hideout

Just to name a few things off the top of my head. I played about 180 hours and my completion rate was only 41%. Crying about lack of content won't make it true kiddo.

>>you're actually trying to justify game padding.

It's a personal thing. The most memorable moments for me happened just when I was exploring - find a new cave, uncovering a forgetten temple, scaling the summit of a mountain just as the sun was setting. The journey was often better than the destination.

I guess I just had more fun than you.
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>>376905063
>regurgitates "weaknesses" only apparent in the first hour of the game
>wonders why no one listens to him

It just sounds like you played a bit, heard some other opinions, then made up your mind.
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>>376906781
They did respond to it though. The durability system really only seems unfair in the first hour. Once you start actually getting equipment (now that the shit durability in the beginning has forced you to diversify and try new things), you lose maybe one weapon per fight, and even less as time goes on (I could get through 4-5 fights with only maining one weapon).

You keep saying durability and durability, and it literally isn't near as bad as you say it is. You have to manage and control what weapons you use for which enemies, that's really it.
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>>376898623
every

single

thread
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>>376933167
>The size is unnecessary for what's being offered within it.

um, no?
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>>376906781
The durability system actually grew on me after a while though. It gives me an excuse to do silly shit like light my club on fire and toss it into explosives without being concerned that I lost something important. It also gives the Master Sword a purpose by making it a solid option at all times, even if it isn't the absolute best at all times. In past games you really didn't have a reason to use the Master Sword once you get the statistically better option like the Biggoron Sword. This time you do.
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>>376894429
Skyward Sword got several 10/10 despite being anything but open world.
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The only fun part of the game was the first five minutes. After the old man leaves you, the game becomes instantly your typical open world trash. The only solace I had was Paya and even she was a shallow character. She could have easily took on a more more engaging role, but muh open world ruined everything good about a zelda game.
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>>376898623
>you're right. they're better because they don't have a shitty weapon degradation system where the BEST items in the game still only last half a dozen hits before breaking.
This argument is so fucking weak and stale. Fucking babies crying over a mechanic in a game that becomes less worrisome the more you play.
>muh story
/v/ spends most of it's time championing gameplay over stories yet most of the games I see getting "GOTY" status from people over BotW are almost entirely being given this position based on their story rather than gameplay (Nier: Automata and Person 5 for instance). BotW doesn't even have a horrible story, it's a nice twist on the usual Zelda plot featuring a neurotic Zelda who isn't sure of herself. However it's also obviously not the draw of the game, as with all other entries in the series. TW3 has very good writing for a video game, but the game itself fucking blows (/v/ still jerks off over it, and you'll notice 95% of TW3 threads are about the story or characters rather than the game itself just like with Nier and P5, which proves my point).
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>>376929008
>flying enemies for a start!
>literally the same enemies just standing on airborne rafts

Nintendo babies everyone
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>>376894274
by simply not being overmemed nostalgia turds who get special treatment because of nu-male cuck video game bloggers ake "journalists" all being subhuman MUH NINTENDO CHILDHOOD cock suckers.

OoT is my favourite game of all time. Of ALL TIME and Shit in the Wild doesn't even come close to Twilight Princess.
It is literally overhyped, overmemed dicksucker 6/10 trash by game starved subhuman permavirgin manchildren.
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>>376907846
>Real gamers

Stopped reading there. If you call yourself a "real gamer" then you have no idea what you are talking about and are probably some 13 year old child in Middle school who still says shit like "You aren't a real gamer unless you have (Insert games that I like)!"
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>>376936350
>Literally crying about dlc.

Salty Sonyqueers everyone.
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>>376936642
>the sony argument

like clockwork
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>>376936585
>all this rabid false flagging shitposting

v/ will never get over Breath Of The Wild.

The ass sting will reverberate for the ages.

I will always remember the past 12 months on this board. Watching the same people who devoted so much time and energy to discrediting the switch and Breath Of The Wild - from spreading lies to cherry-picking screenshots - doing everything within their ability to make the console and the game seem bad.

Only to watch their jaws drop in horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.

Fucking glorious. I am actually sore with laughter.
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>>376936791
>Continually tries to find a fault with BotW. Can't actually find any. Shit posts instead. Desperation ensues.

Clockwerk.
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>>376936953
>false flagging shitposting
I wish I was, you subhuman Neoshitendo Wii 1999 born fagglet Nu-Nintendicksucker.
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>>376894274
So Nintendo started doing the dlc thing? I heard they are going to start charging for their online service as well, did the Nintendo babies defend it even though they always trash talk Sony and Microsoft for charging for theirs?
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>>376937180
keeping sucking that nintendo dick
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>>376894274
ye it can get all 10s ye it can get the goty and i still won't play it because i find it unappealing or i ll just test it on cemu and probably leave after 1 hour . So ?
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>>376937404
not an argument
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>>376928042
>>No new attack patterns
>>No new enemies
>>No enemy relocation
I am not saying that the hard mode will be great or anything.
But all these points are actually false.
Enemies in the hard mode aren't just given higher damage and health. They're ranked up one rank each. And higher ranked enemies do have new attack patterns and improved AI compared to lower ranked enemies. And since the hard mode is also meant to come with a completely new rank, that means new attack patterns and further improved AI.
Though I suppose you could argue that gold/whatever Lynel, Hinox, or Bokoblin aren't technically "new" enemies. And I'd concede on that point. But even then they were kind of hinting at the possibility of a new enemy/boss/something even so.
And new enemy locations was also confirmed.

Like. It's fine to be disappointed in the hard mode. But I see no reason to lie about the mode.
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>>376937490
I know it's not an argument that you suck Nintendo's dick.
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>>376937325
>still more false flagging shitposting
Someday you'll get a good game sony pony, enjoy your movies for now.
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>>376937404
Imagine being this mad about a video game company.
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>>376937541
still not an argument
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>>376937540
>now you have to break even more weapons

Only nintendo fans would defend this
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>>376937484
>I have shit taste, look at me!
What a waste of a post.
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>>376937343
Nintendo has been doing DLC for the past 3 years at least. It's been the good kind of DLC anyway, for the most part. You know, new content, kinda like an expansion?
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>>376937654
>even more regurgitated Sterling "criticisms" (minor nitpicks)
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
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>>376937654
not an argument
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>>376937696
ye you are right i could've said the same about this thread
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>>376937654
>even more
It's really the opposite though. Late game weapons last much longer.
Weapon durability actually matters far more in the early game since early weapons are much more fragile.

By the time you start to regularly fight higher ranked enemies weapon durability almost becomes a non issue.
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>>376937852
Weapon durability sucks when your enemies have higher health values than the weapons you pick up.
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>>376937814
You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded
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>>376902173
If you're 12 years old I can see where you're coming from. Any older and denying the obvious influences Nintendo has had on the industry makes you an idiot. Nintendo pretty much pioneered the third dimension for platformers and adventure games, forced other companies to recognize motion controls with the Wii, and even lead the industry back in their prime. This is all without mentioning their influences on portable gaming, a trend which is currently being developed even with the switch. Despite your feelings on the switch, it is still a novel idea that will have interesting repercussions on the landscape. You may think your opinion makes you seem unique or refined or something, but you really shouldn't be so proud of your stupidity. Unless you're baiting. In which case thanks for being worthless.
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>>376937775
I see, what about the online service? How much are they going to charge for it and why do they think people will pay for it when its no where close to what Microsoft and Sony offer?
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>>376938076
k
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>>376938185
25/30 usd a year
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>>376938072
Fucking
Get
Good
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>>376937484
>and probably leave after 1 hour
Do whatever you feel like in the end. It's not as if anything I say is likely to sway you.

But if you're ever going to give the game a go. You really should aim to finish and get off the starting plateau. And then I'd recommend at the very least travelling to one of the non-Hylian cities.
Which is quite likely to take just a few hours at the very least.
But jusging the game on the plateau alone isn't really that representative of the game at large.

If you don't feel like doing that, fine. But just know that you haven't really tried the game until you have.
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>>376938185
Less than half the price of the other 2 companies, so people will flock to the Switch in no time.
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>>376938332
so why didnt people flock to the wii u
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>>376938072
>higher health values than the weapons you pick up
Good thing that isn't the case though.
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>>376937484
It's ok to have shit taste anon but don't try to get us to suck your dick just because you're gay
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>>376938425
>hurr durr the wii u
Not an argument.
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>>376937540
I'll admit I haven't kept up on the game because I beat it so long ago and put my switch away so it doesnt get dirty while I wait for Splatoon 2 to drop. I skimmed through the dlc info and just assumed it was making the enemies health sponges and deal more damage. I might buy the dlc if its like what you're saying it will be.
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>>376938481
>assmad Nintendo cuck cant stomach reality
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>>376938425
Wii U failings had nothing to do with online.
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>>376938425
Because nobody even knew it existed, and nobody cared, which is the opposite of the Switch right now.
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>>376894274
by selling way more copies and not being open world for kiddies
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>>376938262
Not bad I guess, hopefully its better than the wii u service

>>376938332
They should upgrade their service to include more features if they are going to make people pay for it but I will still end up paying for it when Splatoon 2 comes out.
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>>376902173
>Nintendo is the most overrated dev that ever was. It just has braindead fans and that is all, objectivly if you didn't grew up on their pile of lies and propaganda, ypu know that they are extremly boring and formulai. devs just looking to take your money.
>Now with all the emulators and shit the count is up and people can actually see what their products are like and not just hear ypur lying nintexroid opinions on them.

It's actually genuinely worrying that kiddies on this board are THIS deluded and/or completely ignorant to history.
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>>376938753
Splatoon launches at the end of July, and the service will be free until this fall, so there's that. Also, they still haven't even revealed all the details, so rest assured.
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>>376938730
>open world for kiddies
>B-babys first open world game!

Every time.

And yet, BotW treats the player with more respect and intelligence than most of its peers. Tell me I'm wrong child.
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>>376938959
>And yet, BotW treats the player with more respect and intelligence than most of its peers.
>single damage type weapons
>shallow story
>shrines instead of actual dungeons
>YAHAHA

Such intelligence
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>>376939174
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>376939174
the shrines were better than traditional Zelda dungeons thanks...
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>>376902173
>Now with all the emulators and shit the count is up
That's some nice projection there anon.

>get on dc++ back in highschool
>get an at the time near complete package of all nes, snes, gb, gba, and n64 roms in existence
>fall in love with it all
That's how most people my age got into it.
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>>376939174
Ahhh, I get it now. You're child who understands nothing about game design. You're the kind of kiddie who thinks 'violece and swearing' equals 'adult content'. Fuck sake, this place.
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>>376938959
>Every time.

makes ya think
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>>376939371
kek

>>376939409
neither do you if you believe this empty ass open world is suppose to make the consumer feel smarter when minecraft like open world gaming was made precisely to cater to low IQ individuals
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>>376939174

>shrines instead of actual dungeons

This killed BotW for me. They took my favorite part of the series and subdivided it into bite-size chunks that would comprise a decent grotto in any other Zelda. I respect that the series was initially about exploration but the thing with exploring is that you're rewarded with something worth your time and effort, and I personally think that BotW struggled with that as its answer to what was worthwhile just wasn't satisfying enough for me.
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>>376939174
>>shrines instead of actual dungeons
But the shrines aren't the equivalent of the dungeons.
And of course, you're just ignoring the divine beasts and hyrule castle.

The shrines are more the equivalent to the holes and caves you'd find on the overworld of the other games.
But all of a sudden people demand that they have to be on the same level of dungeons.

And I'd have absolutely loved more actual dungeons in the game for sure. But that doesn't mean that shrines are dungeons. They aren't and neither were the holes and caves of the older games.
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>>376939529
I'm pretty sure giving you a GPS, arrows and every waypoint imaginable is precisely what they do in every other open world game ever to cater to low IQ individuals such as yourself.
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>>376939576
One of the bigger issues for me is that there is nothing to explore. You've seen this world before, and there aren't any dungeons to crawl or interesting locales.

Even when you get to the recycled setpieces, they are ironically small. Hyrule is so underdeveloped, and the atmosphere/tone is completely different in cutscenes compared to the gameplay.

The story isn't even a mystery. What the fuck is anybody's motivation for finishing this game? The combat? I dropped it at the fourth divine beast.

Reminds me a lot of No Man's Sky
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>>376939576
This. Exploring is fun, but the game doesn't do a good enough job of giving unique rewards, there's too much focus on upgrading health, stamina and storage through shrines or korok seeds. For how much handy-crafted locations there are, it's a shame you can predict 9/10 times what exploration will give you.

>>376939715
This is what BotW does extremely well. Very little hand-holding, minimal use of waypoints, and even when you unlock the Ubi towers, the only new information you get is general topography and toponyms.
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>>376897570
Fuck no. It's one in a thousand open world games. This one has Nintendo pollish and is probably the best in the genre, but ultimately it's just one of many in a garbage genre.

It completelyails to be a strong Zelda title, or even a Zelda title at all really, but is arguably one of the best open world sandboxs to exist. I don't consider it worth dropping the 50 dollars on, and I own a wiiU. Open world games are trash and BoTW has none of the elements that I bought Zelda titles for.
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>>376939529
I don't why I bother but I'll bite anyway.

BotW doesn't tell you a fucking thing about how to play. Everything has to be discovered and learned, even the main game mechanics like cooking. Everything is on the player to man up and take control. There is NO handholding whatsoever.

Gaining portions of map from the various towers gives you nothing but the basic layout of the province. Every other type of open game spoon feeds the player with objectives and area of interest. But in BotW YOU have to discover all that for yourself.

All this encourages the player to experiment and explore, to push the boundaries of the games mechanics and find or fashion their own solitions to the situations they find themselves in. The fact the game literally says "go where ever the fuck you want without limitation" shows that Nintendo have a helluva lot of confidence in the game's design and willingness to let the player find their own way with constantly nudging them in one direction. That's a pretty mature design choice.
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>>376940402
>*WITHOUT constantly nudging them in one direction
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>>376939715
>not wanting to waste time walking around an empty map with a bunch of filler shit and trash mobs that don't drop anything of worth makes you dumb

I'm pretty if I had a mental illness like being autistic I would enjoy wondering around and exploring the map so that just doesn't make sense anon. Have you seen a minecon video everyone there has a mental illness and they love a pointless game like Minecraft.
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>>376936152
You sound fat and ugly, huffing your little heart out as your sausage fingers fly. Do you smell?
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>>376940293

What really gets me about BotW is that it fails to be a Zelda, but at the same time is a fantastic foundation to what could be the greatest Zelda ever made. BotW absolutely nails overworld exploration and town design, but everything else seems to have fallen by the wayside as a result. If we can keep what BotW got right but bring the rest of the core Zelda formula up to speed (especially the dungeons) we could have something well and truly special on out hands. As it stands, BotW only feels partially realized, but I do think Aonuma and pals are at least on to something.
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>>376939715
>Dragon Radar for Shrines
>Cellular Towers to reveal the map and show you where 2-3 Shrines are
>Shrines more often than not spoil which solution of 4 is the correct one
>>Implying the puzzles are difficult or well designed anyway
>Heat-Resistant ingredients line the perimeter of Death Mountain
>Cold-Resistant ingredients line the perimeter of the Gerudo Highlands
>Autosaves
>Autosaves if an enemy wanders near you, or more accurately if you for whatever reason wander near an enemy
>>Why the fuck would you ever fight anything
>Mandatory tutorial island to explain everything and exposition dump because this story is totally original
>No mystery anywhere for anything
>Elixirs exist

whoo boy i can feel myself taming the wild already
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>>376941434
Well goddamn.
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>>376941419
Nah, it's a Zelda game. It's just the worst one. Maybe even worse than the DS games.

Lets say you forego the busywork of exploring a dead, uninteresting world and instead shoot straight for Kakariko, and then on to the 4 domains/beasts. What do you get for playing BotW like a Zelda game?

The worst dungeons in franchise history, with a recurring puzzle gimmick that gets old before you get out of the first beast. No enemies to fight, no challenge to overcome. Doing the Beasts doesn't even have much in the way of storytelling. You'll get 4 cutscenes to establish who the fuck the force ghosts walking you through the "dungeon" are, and that's about it. The Zelda aspects are torn and stitched together, and they aren't even quality. It's pathetic.

Don't get me started on the atmosphere in this shitstain.
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>>376941434
>>Dragon Radar for Shrines
There's 120 and you're telling me you found them all without help you're full of shit.
>>Cellular Towers to reveal the map and show you where 2-3 Shrines are
That's called good design
>>Shrines more often than not spoil which solution of 4 is the correct one
There are multiple ways for a player to fashion their own solutions rather than being funneled into doing one thing. Some how thats a bad thing? Fuck off.
>>>Implying the puzzles are difficult or well designed anyway
Difficulty is subjective. But yes, they are well designed
>>Heat-Resistant ingredients line the perimeter of Death Mountain
Sounds like good game design
>>Cold-Resistant ingredients line the perimeter of the Gerudo Highlands
More good game design
>>Autosaves if an enemy wanders near you, or more accurately if you for whatever reason wander near an enemy
Stops people from becoming frustrated, why is that bad?
>>>Why the fuck would you ever fight anything
You don't have to. That's the beauty of the game. It forces nothing on you. Play how you want to play.
>>Mandatory tutorial island to explain everything and exposition dump because this story is totally original
The great plateau is a masterclass in game design, too bad you don't get it. The exposition dump happens because, if the player wants to, they can head straight to the final boss at that point and still have the bare bones of the story to have closure.
>>No mystery anywhere for anything
Stop lying on the Internet
>>Elixirs exist
And?
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>>376942052

Well, that's kind of what I'm getting at. Imagine if all the things you said were shit were actually good and properly realized. Then apply that to BotW's overworld exploration. Would this not be fucking amazing? It's not that BotW is a blowout disaster of a game, it's just relatively unfinished. Keep what it did right, fix up what was screwed up/outright ignored, and we're done here. It's as if we got a skeletal blueprint of a GOAT Zelda instead of the real thing. Just flesh it out some more, add dungeons, minigames, storyline, all that good stuff that BotW glossed over.

>maybe even worse than the DS games

It's worse than Phantom Hourglass in its current state. Spirit Tracks? The dungeons are good but I will never forgive that overworld. Even BotW is above that.
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>>376942052
I mean I get this is most likely bait, but I never understood the worst dungeons argument. I felt like skyward swords dungeons were both easier and worse -- and people act as though they aren't heinously short in skyward sword, when they are actually some of the shortest in the series.
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>>376943010
>Skyward Sword

People shit all over SS all the time, even more than it deserves in my opinion.
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>>376942320
I'd rather not play it (again), personally.

Game holds your hand, not that I have any big proglem with that. It's not Pokemon Sun/Moon levels, but there isn't much to figure out. You've played this game before, and it makes a point to make sure you experience the new stuff, and does it in a very accessible, and participation-friendly manner.

I to like games that allow you to forego combat. Specifically in RPGs. When I play an Action-Adventure title with an emphasis on Heroism, I'd like a some great Action, a fresh adventure, and some opportunities for Heroism. That's all I'm saying.
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>>376943010
I didn't play SS.

Probably won't ever. I'm inclined to believe you though, so I'll bump BotW up to second-worst.
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>>376943572
So you're making definitive claims about it being the worst without playing all of them first? I think that makes you an idiot. Maybe it's the worst you've played, but if that's the case you should play more Zelda games.
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>>376943383
It doesn't get shit on enough or for the right reasons even, in my opinion.
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>>376902173
>Now with all the emulators
>Now
Is this 2001?
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>>376943010

SS was completely the polar opposite of BotW, it was all dungeons and no overworld. BotW simply swung to the opposite extreme. Besides, I recall enjoying Lanayru Mining Facility, Ancient Cistern, Sandship and Sky Keep quite a bit.
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>>376944196
The sandship was pretty great. Ancient cistern was extremely short (and easy), and all the other dungeons were trivial. Lanayru mine wasn't terrible, but those are the only two that even come close to the botw dungeons. Botw dungeons weren't great, but they were interesting and had unique quirks that I felt ss didn't even come close to even in its best moments. Even sandship suffered from an abysmal, stereotypical boss worse than the botw bosses somehow.
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>>376943807
It might not be valid counter-criticism, but I actually had a good time playing through SS. My first Zelda was ALttP, and I played every major installment since that one. I don't know why I didn't sperg out about how shit it was, how it wasn't like OoT or TP. I just played it and was happy with what it was.
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>>376942993
I'd love to play a LoZ with good combat, great dungeons, unique puzzles that require thought, and a new, original story that maybe has some characters that are iconic in their words and actions instead of design and nostalgia.

I'm not joking. I'd fucking love that. I love fantasy adventure games, which is why BotW is so disappointing.

I could go on for awhile in regards to the overworld and the exploration. It's a fine basis, Monolith Soft's world architecture, it just isn't fully realized, like you said. It's just hard to get attached to anything in the game. It seems more like a tech demo for the Chemistry Engine that got out of hand.
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>>376944928
I didn't care that it wasn't like oot or tp. Skyward sword had good ideas there that it completely failed in execution. I didn't hate ss overall as a game, but it's the only Zelda I haven't played through at least twice; I even tried but gave up the second time mostly as a result of boredom.
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>>376945716

Understandable. I got 2 playthroughs out of SS thanks to Hero Mode but fuck if I have it in me for a 3rd.
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>>376943696
Played them all except for SS. Never owned a Wii. Like I said. I bumped it up.

Opinions aren't definitive in any sense of the word. I'm sorry you assume people are preaching intrinsic gospel to you whenever they share their thoughts on what movie they saw the previous night. I wasn't aware that I had to make it a point that I AM STATING AN OPINION. BOTW HAS BAD DUNGEONS, BE AWARE THAT THERE IS NO COMPLETELY TECHNICAL AND/OR OBJECTIVE WAY OF STATING THIS, BUT IN THE CASE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO CLUE WHAT A DISCUSSION IS COMPRISED OF I AM LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO INFORM (You) THAT THIS IS MY OPINION FORMED FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

Framerate sucking is objective because it's technical. You can quantify it. I didn't use that example on accident; BotW's framerate sucks.
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>>376945969
When you're claiming it as the worst and yet haven't played all of them, then you're an idiot. It's the worst you've played and that's all. English isn't hard.
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>>376941416
Great argument friendo.
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>>376946170
I'm actually typing Cantonese into google translate. Sorry if some is quite literally lost in translation.
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>>376943010
The SS dungeons were short because the entire leadup to the dungeon, as soon as you drop out of the sky, is essentially dungeon content. It has the same linier puzzle combat that makes the dungeons fun.

I consider SS the best in the series purely because it only focuses on the dungeon content, and the dungeons are the best content in the series. There is no overworld.
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>>376946435
英ꖇäøéš¾
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>>376894274
I'm honestly hoping a lot of devs will look to BotW for inspiration for future open world games. The game is a fucking blast.
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>>376946913
Botw has an entire overworld that is a bunch of puzzles. Even approaching enemy encounters is a puzzle, since there are all sorts of ways to approach an enemy base depending on what you have and what is around the base. Thus I think botw is better.
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Zelda is probably the only REAL Open world game ever made, outside of shit like Minecraft.
Comparing it to GTA or Assassin's Creed isn't even fair to those games.

Here's the difference, Zelda is ACTUALLY Open-world. You have almost unlimited freedom.

GTA is a linear game that happens to take place in an open world.
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>>376946913
I get kinda bummed that SS forces to replay the same areas again and again.

I actually think TP has the best gamut of dungeons in any of the 3D Zeldas. The HD remake is fucking fantastic on Wii U.

If TP had the slient realm sections from SS in place of the lame wolf tear collections segments, it would be close to Zelda perfection.
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>>376946913

I'm a dungeonfag myself and SS sounds great on paper (and hell, it might be why I like it more than most people seem to) but its execution was pretty flawed. Combat was largely broken down to simplistic puzzle design rather than organic combat, a good deal of content was rehashed such as retreading levels and fighting the same boss 3 times, much of SS's dungeon design was relatively stripped down compared to something like ALttP, OoT or even TP, and its attempts at breaking away from the focused dungeon design approach led to arbitrary tasks that made the player feel less like a hero and more like a glorified errand boy (not that Zelda usually avoids this when you break it down but it's especially obvious in SS). It was an interesting take on the series, it had its share of good ideas, and overall I don't think it was a bad game. I would even argue that the entirety of the Lanayru region is better than some other Zelda games wholesale. But once was enough, I'm fine if we never get another Zelda quite like SS again. It was a good experiment but I don't think it's where the series' future lies. Granted, I also feel the same about BotW so maybe I just believe in a balance of exploration and dungeoneering.
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>>376947091
>that much health

for what purpose? I seen people beat the game with less than half of that.
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>>376947701
Because I found every shrine before I finished the game.
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>>376947385
Thats probably why I didn't enjoy the game as much as other people. I would have enjoyed a better story even if its more linear. Can't wait till people speedrun this game and just rush to Ganon
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>>376947701
If you do all the shrines and the 4 divine beasts you get all those hearts. You don't need to do any of that but if you don't do it you miss out on a lot of the content in the game. Fuck all the stupid combat shrines but a lot of the stuff you have to do in the world to make a shrine pop up is really cool, as well as many of the interior shrines themselves....so I feel like anyone who didn't do every shrine missed out.
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>>376902173
Nintendo is actually one of the best if not the best software developer in all of gaming.
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>>376947880
well that's one way to increase the play length. I got bored of them after I finished a row and just decided to finish the game.
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>>376948106
You are, of course, completely correct. But don't expect the children of /v/ to agree with you.
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>>376906026
Because 9/10 shitposts on /v/ are from Sony fanboys
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>>376948159

Honestly, I haven't even gotten to my first divine beast and I already want to rush the game when I do dredge up the will to play it. Eventide Island was cool, can't say I've really cared about the rest I've done so far over the course of some 20 hours.
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>everytime Bethesda makes a new open world game it's a fucking shitshow that barely works on consoles and needs tons of mods and patches to work properly despite the fact that they've made many nearly identical games at this point
>nintendo makes their first open world game (if you exclude Monolith's stuff) and it barely has any glitches and only suffers from poor framerate due to shitty hardware
Can bethesda keep making excuses anymore? They don't even crank games out fast, you'd think they could at least fucking polish them before shipping. The only notable glitch I encountered in 110 hours or so with the game was the stupid Moblin thing where the game freezes for a few seconds while fighting them in some areas, and that was patched out for the Switch version. Get your fucking shit together, Todd.
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>>376948159
See >>376948102

There's no wrong way to play the game. The game can last 1 hour or 200 hours. But I do think you probably missed a great deal of content.
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>>376906781
>Most normies think

not an argument
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>nu/v/ praises this game
>decide to play it for a bit
>it's just another empty boring open world title
I wish I was underage enough to find enjoyment in this, but it's just garbage.
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>>376948001
People DO do that.
That is a thing. That was a thing on day one.
That's kind of the draw of the game, actually.
Literally the only compulsory objective is "Kill Ganon". Literally every single other thing in the game is optional. Which is fantastic for an open world game, because it means the game is never leading you by the nose, everything you do is self-powered and self-incientivized, which lends weight to your exploration.
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>>376907373
>the game that comes closest to 10/10 in my mind is Bloodborne
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>>376948674
Emufag detected.
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>>376908031
>But the ps4 has enough good exclusives to be worth it.
>implying people buy PS4s for their exclusives
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>>376948674
>I have to be led by the nose to do everything in the game, told what to do every step of the way, otherwise I can't enjoy it

No wonder you never leave your room
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>>376948472
Ganon isn't that hard so if you are doing dungeons to upgrade your health its not worth it, if you have enough health to survive one hit from him you could just stack food items not that you couldn't just dodge and reflect everything.
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>>376948930
I did.
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>>376910040
one sentence is a paragraph? hmmm
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>>376948565
Its not content I'm interested in though, some simple dungeons, mini games, and stuff like that doesn't appeal to me I just play games for story.
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>>376949098
Yeah.
If it's the only sentence in the paragraph, then a single sentence can comprise a paragraph, yeah.

This is literally middle-school english class stuff.
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>>376949209
>I just play games for story.
Well then, this game clearly isn't for you.

Also you're playing games for ENTIRELY the wrong reason.
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>>376949217
please go back to plebbit you knee bending libtard
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>>376949306
Not him, but in fairness, people like games for different reasons and some people really like immersive storytelling where they can impact and control the narrative. Nothing wrong with that. It's as viable as another entertainment medium.

But yeah, you're right, story has never been the focus of Zelda games or Nintendo games in general.
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>>376939576
The game has actual dungeons, you dense fucker.

The shrines replaced the fucking boring holes in the ground.
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>>376949565
>Oh shit, I lost an argument, TIME TO THROW OUT SOME BUZZWORDS
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How can one company be so based? Their first true open world game and it's the best one ever made.

I finished it today and actually felt emotional.
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>>376949828
tfw you will never play BotW again for the first time.
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>>376949681

I'd rather them be replaced with lantern caves like what TP half-heartedly attempted. Really good idea to have a series of dark, winding passages but TP only had like 3 of them. They were good, though.
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>>376949828

>Their first true open world game

Zelda 1?
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>>376939373
Same. I was downloading games with my colleagues on their PC even when I didn't have internet, I was downloading roms in hi-school library, I was downloading games on my shitty ADSL 512kb/s net from emu-paradise and other obscure emulation sites. I think I have more than 40 GB of roms, ranging from NES/SMS games up to DS games. Now I'm even buying cartridges/CDs with old games, since I like to have a hard copy of my favourite games. Let noone say that old games are worthless. Still I hacked my 3DS, fuck Nintendo for their ultimate jewery.
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>>376949828
>a 7/10 is the best open world game ever made
Who could have seen it coming?
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>>376950039
Oh yeah I forgot about those. I remember one which went on and on for fucking ages, constantly branching off into sub caverns. I was totally unprepared when I found it, I wasn't expecting it to be so elaborate. I was already low on lantern fuel and had to turn it on sparingly, alone in the dark with giant fucking spiders and shit. Great stuff.
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>>376949828
>emotional

over what? because it sure wasn't over the story.
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>>376950126
You know what he means. 2D and 3D are completely different worlds on terms of coding and design.

BotW is their first attempt at a modern open world game and they practically mic dropped the entire industry with it.
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>>376894429
FPBP
The Witcher 3 may actually be one of the few competent open world games (other than shit like GTA), but even then it would have been much better if it was more linear like Witcher 2.
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>>376950367
BotW is one of the comfiest game worlds I've ever played in. Emotion doesn't just have to be tied to story.
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>>376950492

If BotW is a mic drop then I was right to avoid open world games this whole time. Honestly, I prefer Zelda 1.
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>>376950581
The Witche 3 can have the player travel in one direction only have them become stuck and have to turn back because they're not properly prepared.

BotW never has this issue. Travelling the world and exploring the wilderness is a joy and there are always multiple ways for a the player to fashion their own solutions on how to make it through each environment. I love Witcher 3 but it can't touch BotW in it's open world design.
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my only problem with this game was that Link couldnt romance all the women
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How is emulation coming along?

Is it worth downloading yet?
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>>376951089
Still fucked. Give it time. Or pony up the cash for a switch.
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>>376951186
No way in hell am I buying a gen-1 nintendo console. The superior switch is on the way and by then the library will actually be worth a shit.

Never falling for that shit again after the vita
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>>376951397

>spoiler

Still running a 3G Vita over here, or was the library not to your liking?
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>>376951186
>he doesn't have a friend that fell for the hype and gives you his wii u that you just hack for LoZ BotW and other games.

I'm not buying this shit till it actually has games and not a 400 dollar portable LoZ BotW machine.
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>>376951914
It's good thing we don't all think like you otherwise we'd have no fucking industry.
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>>376950657
>comfy
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>>376951914
>Playing BotW on Wii U.
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>>376952182
>paying 300+ dollarydoos to play ubisoft open world itsokaywhennintendodoesit the game
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>>376952069
Yes, good little go- er I mean boys.

I'm just waiting till it actually has a library, some people actually have patience instead of wanting every new toy that comes out immediately. LoZ wasn't even that good so I'm glad I didn't fall for the hype and bought a new system just for it.
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>>376952369
Stamp your feet while you cry, maybe it will help.
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>>376952182

I got it on WiiU and oh boy, am I glad I didn't buy a new console for this. Performance differences are irrelevant, the game just isn't that great.
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>>376952519
You don't get to have a system with a good library of games unless people buy the fucking thing.

Trying to belittle gaming fans on a fucking board dedicated to gaming for buying new hardware and software from the most revered and respected company in the industry makes you sound like a clueless child - jealous because people are having fun. Oh well.
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>>376952568
why? i played it on a wii u

solid 6/10, matey
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>>376952732
>the game just isn't that great.

Stucks to be you then. Cry some more why don't you.
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>>376952920
not him but this reads like a shill post.
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>>376906367
Bruh why you only got like 3 hearts in the second line lmao
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>>376953037
>6/10 at best

Every time. Kek.
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>>376952920
>you have to buy a system with a single game that you can get on a console you own already to be able to get more games

Where did I belittle anyone? I played the game as well so I'm not jealous of anyone.
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>>376894274
Easy, by also being designed by Monolith Soft
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>>376953152
>all the people who have 300 bucks plus invested into it say its 10/10
>people who play it with no investment and no need to justify it say its lower

>obviously the prior is who you believe

Every time. Kek.
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>>376953290
Buyers remorse
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>>376953290
Yeah lets just ignore that reviewers, journalists and industry devs have been fawning over the game since release.

Stay mad. All the tantrums in the world won't change the history books.
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>>376953631
yes, we would never ignore any of these people because they are always right
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>>376954263
I seem to remember he still gave the game 7/10 - which, on his contrarian edge-lord scale, is preddy gud.

Cry some more.
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>>376953054
Not him but this reads like not an argument
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>>376954494
absolutely. but not a 10/10, not worth 300 dollarydoos
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>>376902173
facts
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>>376938763
I know right
https://youtu.be/8wdPi0n0lOs?t=2m39s
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>>376953048

>Cry some more

I'm not crying, I'm playing other games that I actually like. Hell, I'm glad I dodged a bullet. Well, kind of anyways.
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>>376954674
No one is going to try and change your opinion. 300 is a little steep but selling my PS4 and games will cover probably half of that.
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>>376954674
>Game gets overwhelming positive reviews from every corner of the media.
>Game has more perfect scores than any other game ever made.
>One reviewer - a documented attention seeking youtuber - gives the game a slightly less than perfect 7/10 score.
>That's the score that counts! Because it suits my need to find a fault with the game!
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>>376954821
>sour grapes, the post
Why do you faggots shitpost this game so hard? What would you lose if you admit that Nintendo made another great game?
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>>376954816
>"let's take a look at The Legend of Zelda, the father of adventure RPGs"
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>>376955089
>reviewers are saying something i agree with, NOW they are worth listening to! haha reviewers were always trustworthy!

there have never been any 10/10 reviewed games that actually sucked : )
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>>376954494
>the best Zelda there has ever been
>the best game ever made

How much did nintendo pay that guy to write those lies?
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>>376894274
From watching people play the game it seemed very boring. Find some weapons go to puzzle pyramid Repeat. The open world seemed very barren. Then again I dont actually like video games anymore which is why I come to V
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>>376955224
No, there have never been, and that you think that cynicism is a replacement for taste says a lot about how underaged you are and how desperate you are to fit in.
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>>376955139

I don't like open world games, not in the vein of BotW. Was kind of hoping it'd change my mind but it didn't. Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
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>>376954816
>red neck hick youtuber
>fucking wearing plastic shades from a happy meal
>audio probaly recorded on his cell phone
>Probably think 9/11 was an inside job
>has 400 likes

This is some desperate shit right here. Thanks for the keks.
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>>376955334
Kek, open world games aren't for everyone I suppose
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>seed
>sword
>sword
>seed
>shrine
>sword
>arrows
>seed
>seed

Perhaps the most repetitive game I've ever played. No reward for exploring. I unironically preferred the world of FFXV
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>>376955454
>I was hoping that a game of a genre I dislike made me like the genre.
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>>376955362
>No, there have never been
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>>376955616
It's stupid dumb fucking hyperbolic statements like these that show that it's all kids desperate to feel different.
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>>376902173
besides the retarded spelling you're pretty spot on.
generations of kids grew up only knowing about nintendo. They had their magazines,which they read like it was holy script. They are deluded to the core.

The only great games nintendo made was in it's 2d era, and there is no doubting their quality. The other stuff, overrated to the max.
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>>376955681
Gone Home was fucking horrific. I couldn't believe that the half-baked romance WAS the plot. Literally nothing else goes on. Anything above a 3 is generous.
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>>376955825
Underage detected.
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>>376955758
>I go to an anonymous board to feel different
top lel logic. Nintenbros have the most retarded arguments ever
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>>376955616
Is this the LoZ BotW walk through guide?
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>>376955667

I like Zelda and I hoped for a Zelda-esque spin on modern open world, not for Zelda to BECOME modern open world. I think this series could make me a believer but BotW wasn't the game to pull it off.
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>>376955681
>le gone home meme
Look at this kid, he wants to fit in so badly
Get your own opinions kid.
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>>376955937
The fuck are you even talking about?
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>>376955929
better being an underage than a fucking grown up that despite all his years hasn't developed taste.
drop dead grandpa
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>>376913053
one is 99% gameplay and the other one is a movie though
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>>376955616
>no reward for exploring
This is my main problem with the game and whenever I bring it up people just tell me that exploring is the reward itself.
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>>376955829

>Literally nothing else goes on.

Actually, there's a handful of subplots that GH actually doesn't shove down your throat, and they're all noticeably better than the plot that is shoved down your throat. Still no masterpiece mind you but it really does put its worst foot forward.
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>>376956010
>now we ignore THIS reviewer, because he does say something i disagree.
>hey bill, help me out, these goal posts gotta get moved back
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>>376956049
Clueless and salty kiddie who feels threatened by a fucking video game company. I weep for your whole generation. You deserve the quagmire of shit that gaming has become.
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>>376956049
>cynicism=taste
Every time
Autism is a hell of a drug.
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>>376955758
I'm 23. I believed the hype and the game is not GOTY. I didn't find it particularly inspiring or creative. Shrine puzzles were easy and mobs didn't vary at all. There is absolutely no point in engaging mobs after a certain point in the game because the chest is certain to contain some shitty sword that hits for 20. Art design was great. Characters were forgettable and derivative (dumb rock man, witty pseudorival, quiet love interest, independent stand-offish strong woman). Genuinely creative instances that required extra effort (skeleton, glowing horse thing) were too sparse.

Just boring senpai. I don't mean to rustle you but the game is a bit dull.
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>>376901171
Witcher 3 and BOTW are both great games.
There I said it.
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>>376911871
>'Influencing story' by choosing x or y from a menu

You seriously think Mujura's Mask didn't already pull this off in far more creative ways?
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>>376956343
Well I'm 25 and it is my GOTY
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There were 2 things that left me in struck with this game. 1: The views 2: The views of every Gerudo.

I love abs.
Wish shields didn't break when you surf on them, also completing it gets you a wooden turd.
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>>376956676
That's okay anon. We can like different things.
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>>376956313
>You deserve the quagmire of shit that gaming has become.
what?
we're responsible for the mistakes that your generation made?
holy fucking shit, no wonder you like zelda. get out you dimwit.
>>376956324
you don't even what cynicism means idiot.
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>>376956819
>Wish shields didn't break when you surf on them,
Get the Hylian shield.
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>>376956846
But you are being a cynical douche.
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>>376908753
How long until almost-perfect emulation?
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>>376901171
I like TW3 slightly more than BOTW but TLOZ is easy to understand and dive into even if you haven't played it. Witcher 3 kept throwing out references to the other two (unplayable) Witcher games every five minutes that sort of broke your gameplay experience if you didn't stop to google the plot.

BOTW barely had a story, but honestly in the age of Blizzard, EA, and Ubisoft bullshit that is kind of a plus for me.
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>>376957067
months to year
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>>376894274
>*****
What the fuck?
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>>376901171
I love Witcher 3 but sorry, the combat, as usual, is utter shit and shouldn't be used as an argument for anything if you want to be taken seriously.
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>>376957225
5 star
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>>376956926
It will still break, never even used shields besides killing Guardians or parrying an attack (which was almost never since flurry rush is better)
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>>376957123
Witcher 3 is sublime. But from an open world perspective, it can't touch what BotW is doing.
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>>376956971
go fuck yourself dude. You have no idea what you're talking about and you're butthurt cause you can't seem to grasp the fact that other see through the lies of your beloved company that you so identify with. You're pathetic
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>>376957331
I've been using the Hylian Shield for weeks now and it hasn't broken yet. I was starting to think it was indestructible.
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>>376957461
there's more to the witcher maps

there's actual content, quests, treasures to find

BOTW gets your hopes up and then gives you a sapphire or ancient core
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>>376957473
You sound very upset. Is it because Nintendo made a good game? Stamp your feet when you cry, it might help.
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>>376957473
>you're pathetic
>says the neckbeard with a personal vendetta against a video game company
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>>376906367
>playing in japanese
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>>376957702
You mean Korok
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This game is for sure, getting a sequel. In the works as we speak. Will probably be OOT MM like with MM being better times 10. Switch exclusive, will improve big gripes, more god damn music.
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>>376957796
your shallowness is showing dude;
but hey, can't wait for e3 to see how that mario game will look like, amiright? What shallow gimmick will it have slapped on it this time I wonder?
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>>376957702
The emphasis in BotW is on exploration.

Often in Witcher 3, I'd set out in one direction only to become stuck and have to turn back because I wasn't properly prepared or had the things I need.

In BotW, the joy of exploration is unmatched and there are always multiple ways open to the player to navigate their way through the environment and fashion their own solutions. BotW just does 'open world' better imo.
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>>376901171
I'm trying to get into the open world genre but I didn't enjoy BotW that much, is Witcher 3 worth buying?
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>>376957702
>Content, quests, treasures

Uh, so does Breath of the Wild.
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Thank you all for participating in my obvious bait thread.

It's nice to see that even two months on, /v/ is still in utter fucking denial and desperately clutching at straws.

Until next time Friendtendos, wahoo.
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>>376957864
why the hate for anime on this website?
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>>376957883
This is one of two zelda games that I played the other being Wind Waker. Do the games even get actual sequels? I thought it was a different Link every time in a different time.
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>>376958569
v/ will never get over Breath Of The Wild.

The ass sting will reverberate for the ages.

I will always remember the past 12 months on this board. Watching the same people who devoted so much time and energy to discrediting the switch and Breath Of The Wild - from spreading lies to cherry-picking screenshots - doing everything within their ability to make the console and the game seem bad.

Only to watch their jaws drop in horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.

Fucking glorious. I am actually sore with laughter.
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>>376958569
Can you not impersonate me please? I made this thread now fuck off with your shitty bait.
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>>376957864
>not playing in original language
>being moonrune-illiterate
>enduring shitty dub

get the fuck off my board, normalfag
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>>376958768
>Only to watch their jaws drop in horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.
literally nothing in this sentience is true. gj
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>>376958574
weebs need to die, they are killing the game market with their waifu simulators and average anime plot
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>>376958979
Sodium Chloride!
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>>376958864
Some people actually enjoy being able to understand what the characters are saying.
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>>376958806
Both of you are lying faggots, I made this thread.
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>>376959001

>they are killing the game market

haah fucking waaw

You wish weeb games had that kind of reach or power. Look to the actual heavyweights like EA and Ubisoft to find the true cancer. Weeb games are off in their own little corner playing with their toys and hurting no one because not enough people care for them to threaten anything.
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>>376958979
You should learn the real definition of literally, Sonyshill.
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>>376958556
But are the treasure chests even worth finding? Why would I want some shitty weapon or ancient cores?
?
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>>376959108
And some people know Japanese and are able to play Nip vidya in the original language, and have access to 10 times as many games as you do. What's your argument?
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>>376959259
Because you need weapons to kill people and cores make great armor/weapons? I don't understand. It's like saying why find treasure chests in Witcher because they give you shitty weapons and crafting shit. Like really. Welcome to videogames.
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>>376958979
So.
Fucking.
Salty.
Enjoy Horizon, SONYGGER
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>>376959182
wait a couple of years anon, time will agree with me
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>>376955616
What rewards did FFXV give to reward free roam exploration that were better than additional stamina/hearts, weapons and inventory?
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>>376959431
Brutal.
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>>376958979
>>376959202

>their jaws drop in horror as the Switch burst out the gate as a massive overnight success
nobody gave a shit. And everybody knew that their braindead fans will eat their shit no matter what, so it was to be expected.
>and BotW turned out to be, not just Game Of The Year, but one of the best games ever made.
this part is just sad. Honestly, if that game was one of the best games you've ever played, then you truly have a pitiful gaming life experience.
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>>376956819
>Wish shields didn't break when you surf on them
If you surf on snow or grassy plains (especially in the rain) they practically never break. If you surf on raw rocks of course they'll break, as they should
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>>376959360
Do you speak Japanese? Are you 100% fluent in nip or are you just listening to VA you can't understand while reading subtitles like a dumbass?
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>>376959585
Name 10 better games, because I claim it's in the top 10.
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>>376959585
>hyperbolic obtuse statements like "you like this game? Hah play more games"
Salty.
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>>376959431
I don't even own a ps4
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>>376959585
Cry some more. Your salty tears sustain me.
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>>376959468

>a couple years

Maybe Steam, but that's getting flooded by all kinds of shit. Even that's a stretch as the closest thing to a consistent threat you probably have at this point is Senran fucking Kagura, and heaven forbid one of those games hit lifetime sales of 200k, then the industry is really doomed. Oh sure, there's the occasional outlier like Dragon's Crown or Nier Automata but I don't see those as honest game changers so much as "Huh, a non-major name Japanese game sold a million units. Neat".
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>>376959746
So you just have shit taste or a bad case of sour grapes? Why should your opinion matter?
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>>376959585
Yes nobody gave a shit, that's why we have threads hourly trying to talk shit about the Switch just to have them dismanteld by people crying they still can't get their hands on one of the fucking things.
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>>376955825
>le this is my false narrative that I made up to rationalize why people like nintendo
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>>376959945

It takes a special kind of ignorance to deny the influence Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time had on 3D game development in its infancy.
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>>376959691
Yes I do speak Japanese. I even have a fucking degree in it. I went on exchange programs to Japan 2 times, and I go there regularly on vacation. I don't claim 100% fluency in any language, not even my first language, but I know more than enough to play vidya. If a game is Japanese originally, I see no reason whatsoever to play a shitty localization of it.
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>>376959585
Still have half the year to go but so far I think LoZ BotW will be nominated for GOTY just because its LoZ and is still the only game worth buying on the switch months after its release.
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>>376959721
this is silly, there are so many games that it's fucking pointless to make this list. But hey, here's still a random not thought out, but still correct list;
1.Wow 2. Skyrim 3. Morrowind 4. Grim Fandango 5. Half life 6. Thief II 7. MGS 8. Gothic 9. OoT 10.Ultima 7
>>376959729
>>hyperbolic obtuse
you're not using those terms right, but nice try.
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>>376956846
>you are responsible for my generation lapping up regurgated AAA garbage

No son. In this instance the elder generation is correct.
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