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what should I spend my poetics on at level 55? I'm maxed out so need to spend some.

ff14 thread.
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>>376890375
On the job you're interested in playing next, or relic items.
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>>376890375
You should keep it for gearing up SAM or RDM for Stormblood.
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>It's another 2 scholars in PotD doing 0 dps episode
What the fuck is wrong with people? How do they find that any fun?
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>>376891293
..but I'm maxed out, meaning I can't earn anymore and it's still a month away until stormblood.
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>>376891293
> "Keep it"
>not usng it to buy caster or striking gear in advance
>Not having tokens and upgrade item ready for weapon that will spawn

sigh
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>>376891679
Buy striking or casting ironworks gear. That's what they'll wear
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>>376891679
Do this >>376891761
You could also buy the orchestrion scrolls and other minions with it.
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>>376891606
They're watching Netflix while you do the work for them.
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>>376891679

Poetics can buy you BLM/SMN and MNK gear that the RDM and SAM can equip. No reason to hold onto them. Same with Lore and Scrip. Only things you need to hold onto are the items you need to buy the 270 weapons for RDM and SAM when those come out.
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>>376891606
>PotD
Why do you do this to yourself? Fast queue times aren't worth your mental health.
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>>376891862
my sub my game
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>>376891907
I wish SE would ban people who say this.
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>>376891896
I just need that stupid gladiator to 34 and I can be done with PotD for good. And no way in hell am I going to do dungeons with that class
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>5:37AM
>Still farming lights
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Guys there is only 33 days left until Stormblood, what the fuck?
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>>376892678
I upgraded my GPU for it, all I need is a good connection now.
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>>376892678
>tentative
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>>376892678
And they still have not shown us anything except for zones and animations.
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>>376892697
I need to stock up on Monster Energy drinks
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Is the lack of accuracy on healer's gear some kind of proof that devs didn't have healers DPSing in high end-game content in mind when designing those contents?
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>>376892792
We'll only learn everything 4 hours before the servers come up thanks to russian dataminers.
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>>376892871
Only interesting things datamined from HW launch was skills tooltips and that's it.
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>>376892940
And the soundtrack.
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>>376892940
Wasn't the existence of the Knights of the Round found by data miners?
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>>376892851
For the same reason drk sword has parry on it, this game is designed by people that don't actually play it.
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>>376892940
And that's already great.
We'll be able to understand the new skills and see the nerfs
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>>376892976
Not sure why would anyone spoiled that for themselves, but to each his own.
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>>376892871
What's bad about that? Isn't it fun going in blind?
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>>376892851
We already knew this, even yoshi-p has more or less called cleric stance a mistake
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>>376892851
>"when calculating total DPS for raid content we did not factor in Healer DPS, we calculate zero Healer DPS for savage content, however in order to clear the raid with gear lower than expected it may have been required to add in DPS from other roles in order to meet the minimum level of total DPS on an encounter"
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>>376893170
I mean, I wouldn't mind healer DPS becoming irrelevant if they cranked up the damage on mechanics and pretty much made it incredibly dangerous to not heal. I just can't stand moments where nobody is getting hit and you would basically do nothing if you don't dps.
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>>376893074
There was also some hilarious mistranslation like how DRK's Sole Survivor originally said that it's to be casted on party member instead of enemy.
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Guys, what the fuck, about 1 more month until the expanstion and still so little info about it, does they think this will make the player more excited or is there not much to show?
I'm actually worried here, guess will have to wait and watch some review before pulling the trigger.
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>>376893271
Think of the netflix healers, anon.
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>>376893289

It will be the same game. They've shown pretty much everything they will be adding except job actions but they are probably still fine tuning them.

I don't know why people say they aren't releasing info, I don't know what they could be hiding.
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>>376893289
We have a lot of info as it is. The only thing we're missing is just the job abilities. We dont need to know the story (obviously) and the rest we can find out by just playing the game.
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>>376893440
I was expecting a lot of the UI rework for DRK and MNK tho
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>>376893271

What if they give every boss the Diabolos Hollow/Shiva Ex treatment with the constant hard hitting auto attacks and high crit rate?
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>>376892697
West Coast here. Hopefully the server move helps me.
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>>376893569
>"b-but what do you mean I have to actually heal instead of standing around doing nothing?!"
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>Accidentally let my sub renew
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>>376893569
Just giving dungeon bosses Tankbusters was a big step forward. Lava Scorp catches a lot of shitters off guard to this day.
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>>376893569
They should do that. Double-edge was a legitimately good idea for a 24-man mechanic.
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>>376893440
>It will be the same game.
Truly a shame if so. They're literally not trying anything new and are hiding behind WoW's ideas 7 years ago.
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>>376893638
Thanks for the new Yacht, stupid gaijin.
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>>376893638
>This e-mail has been sent to inform you that a payment for FINAL FANTASY XIV has been completed succesfully for your account.
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why do players want to know everything about an expansion BEFORE starting it? Isn't half the fun finding it out by actually.. you know... playing the game? look at world of warcraft. Betas for 6 months before the content drops on live servers so _EVERYTHING_ is already known. there will be a live letter in a week with more info.

also western players tend to freak out when they learn new info they don't like because they often fail to see the bigger picture.
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E-eureka will totally save this game and totally won't become Diadem 2.0 (or is it 3.0?) at all!
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>>376893806
Diadem 2.0 was the greatest thing they gave DoL classes since Collectables.
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>>376893289
What more do you want to know?
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What do? Can't even convert into random trash that I can exchange for gil. Also already got all jobs geared for alex gears.
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>>376893791
Because a majority of fucks that play mmos are autismos who just wana see that number rise
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>>376893992
Just let it sit at cap. If you got all the script gear you need it's worthless until they switch all the Lore stuff to it.
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>>376893992
Can't you exchange scripture gear for GC seals and then buy mats?
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>>376894101
You can't exchange anything above i250 except crafted gear.
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>>376894042
Are they even going to keep scripture? I heard it's going to become Poetics instead.
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Is spamming dungeons the quickest way to level up? I'm healer btw
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>>376894189
Yes.
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>>376894189
Pretty much yeah.
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>>376894189
First job do the main story and roulettes.
Alt healers and tank go dungeons, dps potd.
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>24 days til official Rise lyrics
I've never wanted to sing a song so much, what is wrong with me
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{warrior}{master}{race}{I'm looking forward to it!}
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>>376894875
Y-you're not relevant in 4.0 meta. It's PLD time to shine!
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>>376893791
>why do players want to know everything about an expansion BEFORE starting it?

So I know what I'm paying for. If the changes look to be absolutely shit why would I want to pay for it?
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>>376894189
potd is better be you can literally afk
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>>376895304
Then wait until it's released to get spoiled.
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I NEED TO KNOW THE BLM SPELLS

TELL ME YOSHIP
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>>376895481
you can do the same for dungeons pre level 40 as a Scholar
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>>376895746
Fire V, Blizzard V, Thunder IV, (not)Enochian.
There you go chap.
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>>376896259
BLM won't be getting any of those with SB
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>>376896245
difference is you dont have to worry about upgrading gear
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>>376896329
after leveling PLD, SMN/SCH and WHM through potd I can say with certainty that I am over it completely.

On the off-chance i want to level another class i just do the daily leveling roulette, that's it. I'll get there eventually.
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>game goes down for 48hrs tomorrow

what to do bros?
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>>376896601
Play something else.
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>The date has been set for the thirty-sixth installment of the Letter from the Producer LIVE! Producer & Director Yoshi-P will be revealing new information related to Stormblood live from Hamburg, Germany!
>live from Hamburg, Germany!

How expensive are castles in Germany?
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>>376893909
>What more do you want to know?

Cross-class ability changes, what is being added, what is being changed, what is being removed, and possible news regarding the changes to Cleric Stance.
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>>376896601
Two centers will be down for 48 hours, another two will be down for 24 hours.

My advice - Pick a game or two that you enjoy and just go with it.
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>>376896601
Shitpost on /vg/
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>>376896601
Only if you're Amerifat?
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>>376896601
Excercise my man.
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>>376896420
I'm dreading leveling SAM through it just to hit Stormblood content.
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>finally getting rid of yurotrash
thank you based yoshi
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>>376896601
Should we be worried or will everything be fine?
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>>376896601
Continue Persona 5
>tfw eastern canada
Just fuck my connection up with your new """"better"""" server
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>>376897327
If it goes beyond the original 48 hour plan, yes. At least they're giving everyone two free days of gameplay time.

Blizzard wouldn't do that kind of shit anymore.
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>>376897598
Isn't it just 1 day?
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>>376897684
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/3dd64bc980d2444be2f4eab0d50716040e34a5b6
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>>376897214
Hope you have friend to hitch a ride for Stormblood's content queue.
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>>376897247
>EU will now defy logic by having even more shitter
y-yay
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>>376897684
only for yuros and nips you dummy
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>>376897807
I meant 1 free day of game time.
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>>376897754
I do. Dreading queue times.
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>>376897807
>being American
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>Gathering Attempts + 2
>Impulsive Appraisal procs both times
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>>376898038
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Hyped for playing SB as best race/gender and job.
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>>376898106
allag experiment go away
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>>376898106
kil urself my man
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>>376898106
>Lala
>Shitty night screenshot
It's like poetry.
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>>376897715
I can't wait to lose my character!
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>>376893170
>We don't expect healers to DPS in raids
>but healers are going to have to DPS in raids

>let's remove accuracy from healer gear to further emphasize that healers don't need to DPS in raids
>in reality this just means healers have to meld nothing but accuracy
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>>376898106
{Plainsfolk}{master}{race}
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>>376897715
>* Subscriptions will be extended even if your subscription happens to end at the time of the extension. However, please note that this does not add retainer service subscription.
*rubs hands*
OY VEY
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can't they just make feint become an ogcd?
makes no sense that's it's an gcd
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>those who are now further away from the servers may see those times increase.
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>>376898256
It will probably just go away because Yoshi is too scared to give players any options of crowd control
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Should I level CUL next or something else? What's the rundown on most important crafting skills again?
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>>376898309
>tfw western EU
what should i do
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>>376898176
>tfw this would finally free me from my addiction
one can only hope
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>>376898234
I think this is actually the first time they've ever compensated subscriptions for extended maintenance after the horrendous 2.0 launch.
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>>376898256
>removing the only BRD ability that has no cast time in WM
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>>376898178
Yoshi admitted Cleric was a mistake. Hope it gets removed.
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>>376898351
level weaver up to 60 via moogle quests dude
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>>376898365
I'm pretty sure they've compensated Europoops when a similar thing happened
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>>376898353
Play with frogs and nazi.
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>>376898351
You want CUL to 37 at the minimun, but WVR, CRP and ALC will need to be at 50 before you have worry about CUL.
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>>376898353
if my ping goes to around 150, i'll probably stay
if it goes up to 200, then it's time to decide between ragnarok or odin

>>376898389
he said he won't remove it
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>>376898351

cul to 37

then get everything to 50 before you start going to 60 so you don't have to carry 10 different crafter sets
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>>376898381
How about making it useful on the god damn class/job that learns it?
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>>376898413
>>376898459
>>376898490
Alrighty then, thanks for the tips
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>>376898490
>>376898459
Why CUL at 37?
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What are you anons going to inevitably fap to while the servers are down?
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>>376898618
Steady Hand 2.

30% chance of success instead of 20%.
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Is there any reason why Au Ra have such a large size difference between genders? Considering the backstory, at least Xaela should have been more muscular overall.
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>>376898634
https://exhentai.org/g/500695/999ad6d799/
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>>376898462
Then why bother keeping Cleric? All it has done is drive a wedge in the community.

Not every healer wants to DPS and some people can't stancedance properly, even with practice.

If it was off GCD and I didn't have to wait to heal, I'd be all for DPSing more often between heals.
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>>376898634
My Draenei monk
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>>376898634
2D traps like fucking always.
Maybe straight impreg doujins.
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>>376898719
Monks are the least played class for a reason, anon.
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>>376898718
CS is off GCD you dumbfuck
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>>376898708
Males give birth.
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>>376898708
Yes. Marketing.
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>>376898718
Because there will be a lot of people upset if Cleric Stance gets removed. If you take out the only risk to healers DPSing, you have to nerf their DPS a lot too and no good healer wants that.
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>>376898718

So that there's an actual skill gap between good and bad healers and good healers. I mean without cleric you are literally just spamming damage buttons like its WoW. It'd be so boring without cleric stance otherwise.
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>>376898771
WoW players are mostly tools? Everybody plays hunters but that doesn't mean they're good. Brewmaster is really good in raiding right now, Windwalker has always been a boon to run M+ and Mistweaver while not that strong is criminally underrated. What was I supposed to do, make a millionth rogue?

The whole reason monks aren't popular is because of the panda meme.
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>>376898634
Femdom NTR is my new fetish, can't get enough of it
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>>376898785
>>376898871
>>376898887

CS is still shit senpai
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>>376898871
Good healers will still shine. It'll suck at first, but it's just a clunky hump of a skill that most retard players never hop into anyway. If healer DPS just scaled flatly off of MND, even retards would attempt to dps in downtime.

See: Midas changes to VIT for tanks
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>>376898905
>The whole reason monks aren't popular is because of the panda meme.

They're unpopular for various reasons. #1 is they start at Level 1. Also the things they can do, other classes can do better.

How many Monks do you see in world firsts, anon?
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>>376898950
>See: Midas changes to VIT for tanks
That's not the same thing at all.
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>>376898871
CS is still splitting the community apart. Healers shouldn't have to DPS in raid content to secure kills.

>>376898887
So not DPSing much makes me a bad healer? My priorities are to keep people alive, not DPS.
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>>376899029
>How many Monks do you see in world firsts, anon?
Why would I care about world prog in a game I play to have fun and don't even shoot higher than heroic? You make no sense anon!
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>>376899090
Not DPSing in FFXIV makes you a bad healer, yes, because damage is extremely predictable and constant healing is almost never necessary in any encounter. There is always free time during which you can comfortably DPS. If bosses hit harder, nobody'd blame you, but they don't, so I will.
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>>376899090
kys 0 dps afker
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>>376899090
>My priorities are to keep people alive, not DPS.
here we go again
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>>376899090
Just don't respond
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>>376899140
Fair enough. I used to Mythic heal as a MW, but it just got old.
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>did you fill out your WT, anon?
>you know I give really good prizes to my best friends...
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>>376899168
>>376899192
>>376899227
>>376899229

I hope this "healer must DPS" meme dies when Stormblood happens. A healer shouldn't have to do a DPS's job.
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>>376899341
>Turn in 1 book at 7 stickers since I had 1 line
>It didn't count as complete and now I'm forever 1 week behind

I'm sorry
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>>376899168

>mfw when I make tanks panic button their invuln because I keep DPSing

Its so entertaining. I gotchu man, I GOTCHU!
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>>376899425
It will only happen if they increase enemy damage output and lower healing strength. Do you want that?
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>>376899453
It does though?
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So for Stormblood should I do FATES 50-60, POTD, or just roulettes on my SAM
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>>376899168

Even in Gordias, the hardest tier to heal by far, healers were dpsing heavily. Healers in this game are too powerful for them not to be able to dps, the only way healers could be reduced to a healbot role is if they had the boss do tankbuster tier damage every 5 seconds and a massive aoe every 30 seconds.
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>>376899168
>>376899192
>>376899227
>>376899229

If someone isn't comfortable with the idea of doing damage while healing and stancedancing, then that's not their problem. It's (valid) complaints like this that nudge people away from raid healing.
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>>376899090
Even tumblr mancats think you're retarded.
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>>376899475
Of course that is what they should do.
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>>376899527
If someone isn't comfortable with playing their class to its full potential they shouldn't be raiding
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>>376899461
It feels good to see those bitches panicking. Healer master race.
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>>376899475
I wouldn't be against it.
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>>376899498
PotD duh
It will be 60-70 that is hell on any DPS class unless they fuck up and make exp rates in PotD too good.
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>>376899561
>Getting eaten by a mimic

nice touch.
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>>376899090
>My priorities are to keep people alive, not DPS.

You know what keeps people alive? Not taking damage. When an enemy is dead it is no longer dealing damage. When you DPS enemies die faster.

Ergo healers job includes dps because ultimately it helps keep people alive.
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>>376899425
Alright but then tanks just have to spam their enmity combo and use defensive CDs.
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>>376899461

I did that to my raid group near the beginning of Gordias and they threw a fit, but now in Creator and most current content they keep track of how much damage autos do and have a grasp on the timings of stuff like cleaves. They enter 10% hp and it doesn't really faze them anymore.
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>>376899603
50-60 potd is already shit, what makes you think it will suddenly be good at 60-70?
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>>376899489
Nope, doesn't count. You can't lowball anymore, anon.

>>376899498
PotD. However when you get stronger, doing a dungeon or two will certainly help. Also doing beast tribe dailies, ALL of them, can get you half a level every day.
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>>376891606
>grind PotD
>throw on some youtube shit
>proceed to spam one button and follow people around while i rake in free exp
It's not a meme it's true.
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>>376891606
Were either of them named "Azure Xanh"?
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>>376899679
You sure? What's the current max count 32 or 33?
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>>376899746
Sorry, let me rephrase that. Do all the high level beast tribe HW quests.
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>>376899587

Why would you enjoy spamming cure 2 on a tank and reducing your class into a binary "If I have mana things won't die" class. Pure healing has never been interesting in MMOs.
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>tfw no group of friends to do 100-200 PotD
Should I try using Party Finder?
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>>376899798
Some people like the idea of being a pure support. That's why I'm rooting for DNC to be in XIV since they were support/damage in XI.
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>>376899867
>Some people like the idea of getting carried by doing nothing
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>>376899867
>pure support
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>>376899561
>bitchboy tank getting pissy at a healer

Who's the bigger fool? The fool or the one who follows?
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>>376899425

No one is asking for healers to do DPS levels, at least not in my experience. They should focus on healing but there are healing downtimes where you would basically be standing there doing nothing.

I try to do some damage but if the tank is undergeared or not using cooldowns or the DPS keep getting hit my own DPS will end up being low, but it's still better than 0.

I've never seen anyone complain at a healer for doing low DPS, only for doing no DPS.
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>>376899913
By that logic, healers should be removed from the game.
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>>376899805
ask around to see if you can get people willing to do it with you
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>>376899867
>pure support
>XIV

Sure.
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>>376899805
I've had no issue doing randoms 100+ for XP.
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>>376899867

The way the game is designed every job needs to do some damage. I mean you wouldn't be able to complete the story or most quests if you couldn't deal damage.
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>>376899867

Sorry but that's never going to exist in FFXIV. The role of "pure support" belongs to isekai/VRMMO animes.

Even in games where that sort of thing did work, ala Ragnarok Online or something, the "pure support" role essentially is just buffing other players so they can do your job for you.
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Guys i'm trying to settle a debate. What's more important, end game or story? I literally don't care about anything other than raids and pvp while other anons play for the story. Who's wrong?
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>>376900375
>Caring about PvP in an MMO

what
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>>376900375

No one is wrong what the hell?
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>>376898137
>>376898149
>>376898153
>being this racist
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>>376890375
Use it to buy rare crafting materials then put it all on the auction house and make bank.
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>>376900430
Potatoes are a vegetable, not a race.
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SB changes I want.

-Scion storyline ending because writers fall back to it just for story progression purposes and that's just stupid.

-No one starting the game wants to level crafting/gathering professions from 1-60 through old content. Either make it faster, or allow crafters/gatherers to gather/craft in SB content and get full experience.

-improvements to Linkshell and FC UI

-more UI customization options

-alternative means of gearing outside dungeons, crafting, quests, vendors, running 1000+ runs in some PotD-ish thing.

-less Asian levels of grinding for so little reward. While it's not XI levels of grinding, we're getting to the point of farming Excalibur shards again.

-Grand Companies are, for the most part, useless now. Improve them, add better gear, improve the current gear, better rewards, etc.

-Remove beast tribe quest limits.

-FATEs should give more XP.
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>>376900375

I wouldn't say anyone is wrong for preferring one or the other but I try to enjoy all aspects of the game or at least most.

I mean I enjoy raiding more with the story context.
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>>376900430
The only good potatoes are baked potatoes.
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>>376899090
>My priorities are to keep people alive, not DPS.

No.
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Will the next end-game hub be as good as Mor Dhona or will it be cancer like Idyllshite?
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>>376900375
Gameplay. If it's fun to play, it's good.
Storyline can be Shakespeare tier but as long as it's not really integrated into the game, it's not good. XIV storyline is almost entirely cutscenes and things players have no agency over. An MMO story should be about massive battles and party adventures instead of... whatever anime this game is.
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Guys iv'e skimmed and skipped through everything in ARR here's what iv'e absorbed
>crystal chose you
>y'shtola is best girl
>join the walking sands to stop primals
>kill some primals
>walking sands gets wiped out by 4 big bad dudes for whatever reason
>keep killing primals
>The twin is a faggot
>kill 4 big bad dudes
>restore walking sands
>day is saved
How close did i get?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19KfKdv8HI

What's the song that plays at the beginning of this video?

It's not Breaking Boundaries (final battle theme from job quests)
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>>376900520
>we're getting to the point of farming Excalibur shards again.

Don't remind me.
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>>376900682
Why was Idyllshire shit? I stopped after 3.1 but remember Mor Dhona through 2.x which was pretty great.
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>>376900682

>End-game hub
>Never has a market board

Nigga, I will forever reside in Limsa for the fact that the MB is right next to the Aetherlyte
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>>376900682
It'll be even bigger and pointless than Idylshire to show off their "no loading zones" tech.

Please look forward to it.
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>>376900682

Well I heard it will actually be part of the zone like Idllyshire should have been with the Hinterlands.

So we will probably be able to finally show off flying mounts in hub and actually fly.
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>>376900375
Nobody is wrong, different people enjoy different things.
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>>376900784
No market board.
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>>376900796
There's a reason they don't put market boards in endgame hubs anon, it's so there isn't literally everyone on the server at all times there.
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Game needs more fan art.
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>>376900493
>>376900545
The only things "baked" in here is your minds.
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>>376900752
Twilight over Thanalan?

It's like the goto cutscene music.
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>>376900412
There was absolutely nothing more satisfying than one shoting scrubs as a rogue in WoW, made me a fan of mmo pvp for life.
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>>376900553
>tfw no strong male au ra tank to suck dry while getting pounded by a catboy
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>>376900880
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>>376900931
I hate your kind so much
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>>376899578
desu I didn't pick healer because I wanted to have to juggle bullshit to do my role. It's painful enough having to play whack-a-mole with the hp bars due to retards, having to stance-dance on top of DPS is just not fun. Pretty bullshit that it only gets better when you play with competent people. Your eyes have to be constantly moving about.
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>>376900974
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>SMN was my original class
>stopped playing it and changed to WHM/PLD when SMN was about 54
>played basically just them for the last 6 months
>level up SMN to 60 so i can fill in for dps when a friend needs
>played about 5 hours worth of summoner since 6 months ago and in a mish mash of scripture, alex accessory and 235 pvp I'm top dps in every single roulette i've done for the last 4 days

really makes me think

the worst part is i know i'm not even playing that well, i keep forgetting to place shadow flare or fucking up my oGCD weaving/forgetting about phase changes and having my dps suffer for it but i'm consistently doing more than anyone else. i don't understand
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>>376901079
Why was he given such a big chest?
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>>376901209
For you.
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>5 mins in to shekel-counting and chill and she give u this look
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>>376901079
If Elezen looked like that in the game I'd never look back
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>>376901350
If they do nobody would be playing Hyur.
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>>376900520
>-less Asian levels of grinding for so little reward. While it's not XI levels of grinding, we're getting to the point of farming Excalibur shards again.
At least asian grinders properly rewarded you wih stuff that was good and lasted for more than 6 months

In FFXIV you spend 5 months grinding stuff and 1 month actually using them before they're invalidated
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>>376900227
It'd work if the game was made for it. FFXIV clearly instead when you force even healers to do damage.
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>>376900981
butthurt sub 1700 arena shitter detected, git gud.
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>>376900375
End-game because SE can't into quests. It's not fun doing 100 fetch quests and going from point A to point b to progress into the story. You can have the best story ever but poor design choices won't save your game which is why they're bringing in Jump Potions instead of fixing their shit.
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>>376901513
>In FFXIV you spend 5 months grinding stuff and 1 month actually using them before they're invalidated
More like 1 week
>Lux relics
L M A O
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>>376901523
>>>/t/umblr
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>>376901523
Never seen lalas with big cocks before, porn that is.
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>>376900375
Ideally story should be the endgame
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>>376901636

Gotta rename my files to uphold my 4chan cred.
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>>376901523
>This is what male lalas actually believe
In reality they try to compensate for their tic-tac dicks by hoarding gil, and even that isn't enough to stop female lalas lusting after other races and their organ-displacing mega dicks.
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>>376901630
>Lux relics

anon pls
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>>376900375
>anything other than raids and pvp
hey are you me
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>>376900746
I'd tell you but I skipped everything the moment I hit level 50 because I was 90% burnt out from the retarded MSQ grind and couldn't even view the cut-scenes in the MS trials because I was getting left behind.
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>>376901746

>Sultana's Lap
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I want to really play this but I don't have money.
Last time I played the free trial, you could play as much as you wanted for a week. Has that changed?
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>>376900430
>he says while not posting a dark skinned lala
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>>376901835
you can now play as much as you want forever but you are stuck at lv 35
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how do you do dis
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>>376901840
Shit, I need some. They're so rare.
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>>376898353

Use mudfish vpn
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>>376901174
>SMN isn't even a pet class but a AoE/DoT class with a half-assed pet slapped on which only one you'll ever use the moment you hit level 40
Sasuga SE. I didn't know you could fuck up a pet class this badly. Sad thing is there'll never be another pet class and SMN is suck being a bitch to Aetherflow and terrible pet mechanics. Hope you enjoy waiting 2 seconds for Garuda to stop spamming auto attacks to cast contagion. Please look forward to SB.
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>>376901632
Kind of scary.
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>>376901894
/lookout probably. The only you use for sightseeing - content that's DEAD.
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>spire
>ewer
>spear
>ewer
>spire
>arrow
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>>376900520
>>376901513
Grinding in XIV is fucking nothing unless you're retarded enough to do relic, and you know from the start that relic doesn't give anything special.
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>>376901174
>>376901926
I got my smn to 45 before i dropped it, aetherflow is such a boring mechanic holy shit.
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>>376902045
silly anon, what i mean is how to be a miqitten
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>>376901926
Pet classes are shit and would be better off not existing. There's no functional difference between casting an ability yourself or ordering a pet to cast it, and the rest of the time they are just free damage/healing turrets.
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>>376902045
I would've cared about it more if it involve fun stuff like jumping puzzle. But nope, just fly to designated point and /lookout.
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>>376902101
probably editing the model and using it on an emulated server
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>>376901894
it's the beginning of the sundrop dance
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>>376899425
>>376899090

This is a multiplayer game you contribute as much as you can in any way possible. There is only 2 things you can do as a healer which is heal damage and give damage. Why is it so difficult to fulfill another duty to your party if one is not needed yet? DPS are expected to buff and give damage,hell some DPS actually boost healing and res but shitty healers would be the first to complain if those players weren't doing everything but when the same is expected of healers everybody whines.

I'm starting to hate everyone else who plays this role holy fuck. If only people knew how much a healer can contribute you can boost your party's overall DPS by 30+%. Making runs much faster and when shit dies faster you heal less. I only really played FF14 how are healers in other MMOs? Do they just make you sit there and heal?
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>>376902220
Hey, the art here doesn't look half bad.
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>>376902158
BLACKED
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>>376902186

A lot of MMOs are heading towards brawler territory so the healbot meme isn't as prominent anymore.
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>>376901073
>WAAAHHH MY ROLE ACTUALLY REQUIRES SOME DIFFICULTY

Stop that. Have you played any other role? Outside of intensive heal mechanics you can safely do other shit without risk even savage raids/primals on ilvl
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>>376901921
is mudfish good compared to wtfast?
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>>376902135
Fuck off Yoshida
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>>376902186
I've only played Guild Wars apart from XIV, there you always had to heal since there was a constant stream of damage. XIV damage works in "ticks".
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>>376902142
Shit doesn't even give you any rewards either.
>>376902135
Most devs can't into pet classes and shouldn't even bother with them. SMN should just be a class that's focused entirely on combos, moreso than any other class, and after you reached some condition you could summon a powerful pet to do shit for a few seconds that actually had an impact. That or just not even put a pet class in because it's some unfun shit to play right now.
>>376902097
>You can only do certain skills 3 times per minute
>one of the aetherflow skills is complete shit so you're stuck with Painflare, Bane, and Fester
Wow, so much depth aetherflow adds! only purpose it serves is to gate us.
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>>376901894
Fuck's sake yoship think of the fantasiabux

It's easy money, just let us have the miqittens
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>>376902418
[desire to hit with hammer intensifies]
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>>376901174
about 30% of your damage is garudas wind blade and another 20% is ruin 3 if you have the basic idea of the class you should hit good numbers I suck at sum and DPS in general but I still do decent DPS considering everything
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>>376902370

Considering it dropped my latency by 100 i'd say so, real cheap too of course
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I kinda want to alternate between Archer/Mage/Healer

Keeper of the Moon seems like the best race for it
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>>376902370
mudfish is extremely cheap and works well

of course if you have a good route to the ip already then it won't do much if anything
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Anyone have that fanart of a whm cat being mad at an ast au ra.
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>>376902538
Hyur, Roes and Elezen are the only acceptable races to play as
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>>376902535
>>376902587
thanks anons, i'll check it out
yeah that's really cheap too
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Similar to this
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>>376902445
>Energy Drain
>bad
It's 150 potency and gives you 884 MP which is exactly enough to upgrade a Ruin to Ruin III, which is +120 potency. If you're trying to burst through Aetherflow quickly and can't wait for 3 Festers, it's easily a better choice than Painflare.
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>>376902319
>>376902402
That is true tons of MMOs are doing away with the trinity. But how were they before? Anybody have any experience healing in older MMOs? I only really played PSO before and some korean MMOs and the magic casters were basically damage that could buff and debuff with some heals.
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>>376902365
>DPSing
>Difficult
No, it's tedious. DPSing comes naturally to the other two roles. Having to stance dance and get punished for it because shitters are gonna shit is not fun. WoW did something fun and had Smite for Priests heal the lowest HP ally for a portion of the damage dealt and when that health recovery wasn't enough you default to your regular healing spells. They also had damage reflection on their shields. The cooldown on Cleric stance is fucking stupid too. Punishes you because someone else makes you drop the stance. I should note because you'll probably bring it up like an autist but I'm not talking about clear downtimes where it's safe to do it. You can go MUH SAVAGE RAIDS AND PRIMAL but the majority of the time it'll be in dungeons and hard modes with shitters. Saying "It gets better when doing end-game with statics!" is just as shit as telling new players "the combat gets better 50 levels in!". No matter how true it is it's still not fun in the meantime.
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How to fix SMN
- Remove pets
- Remove Dreadwyrm Trance
- You combo skills in order to summon a primal (sorta like mudras)
- Depending on which primal you summon it grants the party a buff (Garuda: Atk/Spell Speed, Titan: Mana/TP Regen, Ifrit: +Dmg)
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>>376902716
>no tails
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>dirty potatos
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>>376902647
i think i have it saved somewhere
brown hair cat right
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>>376902772
How to fix SMN:
-Remove pets
-Add Inferno Trance, Crag Trance and Vortex Trance
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>>376902654
Guild Wards could be considered "old". It came out in 2005 so yeah Monks, the healer equivalent in GW, were healbots.
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>>376902807
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>>376902647
here
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>>376902716
>"Hold still bitch your torso isn't gonna stab itself"
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>>376902872
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>>376902648
It's bad in relation to the other abilities, yes. The literal only time you should ever use it is when you NEED to expend Aetherflow or you're about to run out of MP in which case you're pretty screwed if Aetherflow isn't coming up soon. 90% of the time it's more desirable to just wait for another Painflare/Fester after you've used Bane. It has its uses but it's still shit. I've never gone "Fuck yeah" when using Energy Drain like I have when doing a perfect AoE rotation.
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>>376902873

yeah thats the one, thanks. Pretty much my static whm's reaction to AST when 3.4 dropped.
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>>376902847
>Add Inferno Trance, Crag Trance and Vortex Trance
Well? What would they do?
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>>376902807
>>376902872
>>376902951
>>376902879
yuck
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>>376902872
>>376902951
L-Lewd...
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>>376902879
more
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>>376902872
>>376902951
wtf is this shit dog sm.h tbqh
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Don't stop. I like this fanart.
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>>376902731
>tedious
>consists of toggling a skill with a 5 second CD

Pro tip if anybody dies during you cleric toggle 80% of the time it wont be your fault. Just do it. I let so many bad players die but the good ones will shine. But you can adjust as needed. You don't need mechanics to hold your hand healing sticky situations you just need a little foresight and some fucking balls.

>You can go MUH SAVAGE RAIDS AND PRIMAL but the majority of the time it'll be in dungeons and hard modes with shitters.

I used that as a point but dungeons are even easier to heal since most of the time only the tank will be taking damage until the bosses and even then the bosses are only a little more tough than the large mobs. You can do it friend just learn to toggle recognize strong mobs and give yourself a timer on how much dmg the tank takes in 5 seconds without him popping CDs.

>>376902861
thats sad
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>>376900520
>make it faster
A crafter can go from 1-50 in less the 3 hours depending of your route. 51-60 is supposed to be usual level grinding since it is part of current content but it is piss easy with moogles and you even get money from it.
Gatherers are pretty fast too with the right leves per level tier and collectibles, you can max one with a week or so o casual grinding.
Anything faster than this is a jump potion.

>less Asian levels of grinding for so little reward
Relic weapons are basically a glamour, the value of a reward is mostly based on your own interests.
I honestly don't see anything else being "asian levels of grinding".

>Remove beast tribe quest limits
And then they will add RNG and/or "asian levels of grinding" to compensate that. A daily 15 min per tribe isn't that bad.
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>>376902993
Change the effects of your Ruin III, Painflare and Deathflare depending on what trance you're in. Inferno Ruin III is pure damage, Vortex Ruin III extends dots by 2-3 seconds, Crag Ruin III reduces enemy damage by 5%.
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>>376903114
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>>376903170
>I let so many bad players die but the good ones will shine
I understand but that's still kind counter productive. Your dps is worth shit if the party wipes. On the other hand, sacrificing your shit amount of dps to prevent a wipe and secure a clear is a reasonable choice. I would support the argument that healers should dps if the actual dps players did decent dps. But since most dps players suck donkey balls when it comes to doing dps and dodging mechanics, no reasonable person can shit on healers.
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>female au ra will never not look like retard babies
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>>376903401

I'm pretty sure one of the faces looks pretty adult.
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>>376903335
GIVE ME 7

I want her to give me that same look when she steps on my dick with her high heels.
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>>376903335

dubs = yoshi?
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>>376903170
You're missing the point. It's the fact that shitters make dpsing as healer outside of end-game content feel like shit. This is unacceptable for new players coming into the game and provides a bad experience. It'd be fine if healers were made to handle dpsing while healing so it's more fluid but getting punished as a party/raid because of shitters is not fun. It's fine for shitters to fuck up but it's not fine to have their fuck-up preventable by healers and then punishing the healer by locking them into CS because after they get into it the DPS somehow attracts all the damage at the worst time possible either through honest mistakes or bad gameplay. It's just not a fun experience.
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>>376903497
YESSS MUH DICK
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Who has the best hempen camise and why is it miqo'te?

Seriously not fair that my char can't wear that.
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>>376903335
if dubs i get the white catboy
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Question to healers, how vital is stoneskin to other heal jobs? Can I just ignore it and go work on scholar/Astrologian with just cleric stance and protect?
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More stuff needs to be important.
There's a fuckton of barfilling that doesn't do shit.

You do relic, but it's not relevant.
You do dailies, but they reward you with... dances.
You do triple triad and it's not even a way to get anything but more cards.
You do Diadem and get nothing but useless garbage

And hell, why would you wanna do anything? You can outgear every piece of content in the game just by getting your welfare tomes.
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>>376903613
Stoneskin is for bad SCH's, you don't need it.
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>>376903613
Stoneskin is basically useless 99% of the time.
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>>376903278
desu crafting/gather isn't fun to do without leves. After you've experienced using eval leves for gatherers it's really hard to go back to grinding to the point where I refused to level those classes without leves. I gave up on crafting because it was a massive pain in the ass to do them. Stopped at levels 20-30 on all of them. I would be happy if they removed leves and compensated some other way because
>lmao 6 leves a day
100 leves is barely enough for 20-60 in a gathering class if you do nothing but evals.
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>>376903698
>more dps on pull is bad for sch
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>>376903521
No, go to /vg/ if you want fag shit.
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>>376903723
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>>376903613
It's shit. Even almost shit on WHM too. Shit bleeds MP while being like 50% EHP of other spells of the same cost.
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>>376903759
Cleric Stance
Protect
Swift Cast
Aero
Blizzard 2

Which one will you replace for Stoneskin?
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>>376903613
Do SCHs even take stoneskin? I thought most of them ran Cleric, Swift, Bliz 2, Aero, Surecast.
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Blizzard 2.
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>>376903881
Blizz2, not really worth it
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How reliable is Ariyala's site for hunt spawn times?
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>>376903960
I want to fuck that giraffe.
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>>376903992
Pretty reliable on gilgamesh. God bless steak.
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Blizzard 2 is only useful on dungeons but stoneskin is so shit it won't let you win more than half a gcd.
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level my new AST or gubal hard lore farm for PLD anima
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>giant enemy crab
What's with all the memes in this game?
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>>376904097
Main translator is huge memer.
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>>376904097
Literally all Koji Fox's doing
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>>376904097
What's meme about a crab?
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Ok thats it for now. Leave some for other threads. Decent fanart is so hard to find outside of the boorus.
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>>376904097
Koji "i download all the memes" Fox
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>>376904097
you haven't seen anything yet my friend

it only gets worse and by that i mean better, i actually enjoy seeing how hard they can force in references

>Electric Gundaloo
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>>376903937
>Surecast
For what? I mean it's more useful than Stoneskin but still. I'd rather have that 10% hp shield than a skill that's useful once in a blue moon.
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>>376903937
>no protect
really gets the noggin joggin
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>>376904217
When has surecast ever been useful?
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>>376904217
He obviously meant swiftcast.
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>>376904287
he said surecast and swiftcast
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Such is life in the EU.
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>>376904097
MEMEDESU
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>>376904276
Titan HM and EX I guess.
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>>376904276
Probably during some bullshit AoE damage mechanic in bosses. I don't know if a % of hp loss causes your spells to be interrupted or only certain actions cause it.
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>>376904369
>wiping too arachne
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>>376904369
the reason i want to stay on US servers
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>>376903376
It is but you complain about shitters not doing their job but rather than playing optimally and bettering one's self you accommodate and enable the parties weakness making the run a slow slog. If your idea of a acceptable run is that then its okay. Don't get me wrong i'm not an advocate of DPS till your tank is barely standing but cleric is just 5 seconds. There will be times that you can't do ANY dps at all and there will be times where you can the thing people complain about is the healers that only do one or the other. A good healer can recognize these situations and make the right choice. Its like using jump with a DRG.

>>376903558
No point being missed here. You keep trying to shift blame and masking the guise of your incompetence with the excuse of "new players".

>...DPS somehow attracts all the damage at the worst time possible either through honest mistakes or bad gameplay. It's just not a fun experience.

its 5 seconds if a DPS gets killed by damage in basic 1-60 leveling content between a cleric CD there are some scenarios you can list

>tank died (healers fault)
>dps eats aoe (not healers fault)
>dps pulls aggro (not healers fault)
>dps goes off alone (not healers fault)
>dps eats shit from a mechanic targeting him (like doom from palace hard and that is the healers fault)

See a pattern? You can prevent all of these honestly but most of these scenarios don't apply to the healer. I actually haven't played healer too long got SCH 60 and the other ones around 50 and I dps every chance and I gotten so many comms and shit for that. DPS know when they fucked up so doing your part should be priority. Most people should play WHM to start off because of the MP issues you gotta have a balance and you cant just healbot through everything balancing holy for mitigation and fishing for procs effectively. The other healers kinda teach bad habits IMO. All of the WHM is shit posts make sense now.
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>>376904097
>>376904097
>this fate

wew lad I thought I could take it solo now but I should have known better when I heard that fucking theme
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>>376903731
>level 20-30 on all of them
You picked the worst route possible, it is just as bad as leveling all combat jobs together. Just because it is "efficient" gear-wise it doesn't mean you should do it.
The best way to do it is to level one class to 60, get money for a week (also allowing leves to recharge) and level another one to 50 by buying leve items on marketboard (then moogles to 60). You don't even need to upgrade anything other than mainhand and top armor if you do just leves and moogles (if you buy thr completed item instead of craft mats, you don't even need to buy gear at all).
And you shouldn't be using leves for gatherers after you unlock old world figs and other EXP collectables, they are far better and you can get some cash grinding something else around the area while you wait for your next opportunity.

I don't like how leves work either, but I honestly can't think of an alternative that isn't "more grinding but less timegates".
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>>376904369
spoiler this shit holy fuck HOW did they just stand under her and eat quicksand AOE?
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>>376904926
They aren't even on the quicksand phase judging from the screenshot.
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>>376904926
People think they can just outgear the fight and don't need to do mechanics probably.
Personally I never do anything in 24 man raids except auto-attack and move around.
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>>376904695
CS on SCH is easy mode because of Lily. Hard to fuck up with that because Lily retains the stats she had when summoned and it only gets refreshed during certain abilities like rouse/Spur or a zone-change. It's different for AST and WHM. Like you said WHM has mana issues and it's real fucking noticable so they have to be mindful of when to DPS. I got both AST and SCh to 60 and I only started bitching about CS the moment I played AST.

The problem is that if it's the DPS fault but the healer tries to heal them and gets punished for it by having to switch off of CS or getting locked into CS when someone else fucks up it's counter-intutive and not a fun mechanic. Like I said before if you want healers to DPS then remake them so they're made for it. Adding in a stance dance mechanic and calling it a day is lazy and aggravating because, surprise surprise, you're not the only person in your group.

Also comms really don't mean anything. You can go in with SCH and spam AoE shields or go in as AST and give out AoE balances and shields and get comms easily. This extends to PotD.
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>>376904695
It's not about slog parties. If you let your average dps player die, you won't clear content. You'll spend weeks in PF to farm a savage raid. Yesterday in a10s farm party was a NIN who died 4 times to traps, gobpress and triple charges. And were the healers supposed to do? Leave him dead? Not heal him? The ''optimal'' healer playstyle for me is keeping everyone alive if it is reasonably possible. I personally don't care about 1 minute faster clears. Actually, it's a loss compared to all the wipes and restarts.

And secondly, if every dps players were just 1 or 2 percent better, that would cover the damage the healer didn't do. So you claim people need to stop enabling shitters while on the other hand you fail to reckognize that healer dps enables dps shitters who can't make marginally improve their dps.
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>>376905217
>Yesterday in a10s farm party was a NIN who died 4 times to traps, gobpress and triple charges.
Not that guy but no matter how much healing you did during this it still wouldn't save him. Not sure what's your point here.
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>>376902629
>Elezen
>Acceptable to play as

If you play a lady, sure. Those animations are unadulterated trash, only outdone by Au Ra goofiness and Miqotes being too short to wear spears that don't clip through the ground
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>>376905362
The point is that he got healed, rezzed and we cleared the fight. He required constant attention from the healers. If it were up to the other anon, he would've just continued dpsing and wouldn't have rezzed or healed him.
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>the other healer spam heals everyone instead of letting your dots tick up
Thanks for giving me 30% overhealing you fuck.
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>>376905496
That's exactly what enabling a shitter is though. He didn't deserve to clear the fight if he couldn't do mechanics.
Personally I make sure groups wipe if I'm ever carrying them like that.
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>>376904879
That's what I did for gathering and it worked out well. Got BTN to 60 and farmed scrips. Then MIN and lastly FSH. Worked out well save for the Leve lockout. As for crafting I got them all to 15 then leveling them all to 20 during free trial. After that I focused on CUL for desynth due to the massive fish pile I had but I started getting burnt out when I had to either gather my own shit very slowly (3 logs per lumber + skins and having to mine for other ingredients which I'd need ALC to refine) or just buy it from vendors and AH jews just to get 2k exp per out of 140k for just one level. Or I could do leves in which I'm timegated and had to do that across all crafting professions instead of just 3 gathering. Also collectibles are so aggravating. It feels amazing when you do everything perfect and orgasmic when you get more than usual but holy shit do you get tilted when you miss 1-3 at 90%. They should've been tied to regular mining nodes and give less exp at the cost of being more common. Something like FSH but not completely RNG. Would help with putting more mats in the MB.

I just really hated how important leves are and how obnoxious the grinding method is. I'm not sure I've ever played a game where I enjoyed the crafting system.
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>>376905498
desu healings feel like fucking shit in this game. Look at Druid and that's how HoT is suppose to feel like.
t. AST
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>>376905651
>Personally I make sure groups wipe

Cancer
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>>376905496
Sounds like you were basically carrying him at that point.

I mean if that's your jam, then so be it. Stuff like that would never work at 0% echo and bare minimum ilvl though.
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>those retards fucking shit healers who only deal damage while entire party sits at 10% hp
Healers are fucking cancer in this game and it's all thanks to retarded Jap developers who can't design for shit
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>>376906059
If there's no unavoidable aoes about to happen, be happy you're at 10% instead of 1%.
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>>376904975
I t-think you're right holy fuck

>>376905137
>The problem is that if it's the DPS fault but the healer tries to heal them and gets punished for it by having to switch off of CS or getting locked into CS when someone else fucks up it's counter-intutive and not a fun mechanic.

I understand its not fun and while the 5 second lockout is rough considering the cast time of spells which make it feel like healers shouldn't DPS compared to the other mechanics its far less punishing than missing an AF stack or enochian timer refresh.

>Also comms really don't mean anything.

Comms specifically for healing and DPSing.


>>376905217
>ATTEMPTS to defend someone dying more than twice in a raid
>questions what he is supposed to do
>"optimal" is keeping someone like that alive at the cost of MP and CDs
>"its a loss"
>playing in party with a nin that dies 4 time

What the fuck dude. You are doing savage content why are you saying dumb shit like this.

>And secondly, if every dps players were just 1 or 2 percent better, that would cover the damage the healer didn't do. So you claim people need to stop enabling shitters while on the other hand you fail to reckognize that healer dps enables dps shitters who can't make marginally improve their dps.

You lost me. At least the anon above you has a clue and claims the CS shit is personal which I do agree on too but you holy fuck I'm floored my dude. How do you even come to a conclusion like this?

I'll try to break this down. Dps is paramount in this game with all of the enrage timer and such you claim if instead of contributing to this keeping people alive and hoping DPS is marginally better would cover all of the damage a healer can do. But me, who advocates directly contributing to this is enabling shitters when performing all duties and give damage. It still doesn't make sense.
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>>376891907
>my sub my game
>says the people who play drk and refuse to put on grit cause "mah mana"
>says the people ERP in broad daylight in the middle of town
>says the people who pull 40 groups of mobs and blame the healer when they wipe
>says the people who play lazy healers who let the tank nearly die from easy pulls
>says the people who play dps melee and use sprint to run 10 feet to the next mob
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>>376906145
A lot of people think they are hot shit now because they cleared 9s and 10s at ilvl 270 and 20% echo.
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How often do you think Nanamo gets impaled on Raubahn's spear of liberation?
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>>376906294
Often enough that they're going to reveal pipin isn't adopted in SB
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>>376906176
>my sub my game
>say the people slowing down everyone else, who also pay subs
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>>376906342
That would have been too good to be true.
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>>376906232
>wahh i'm not a special snowflake other people can clear my super hard content!!!
The raiding community is THIS pathetic lmao
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>Shoulder Tackle
>you actually strike with your palm
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>>376906232
I used to watch the Alexander raids and envied that I wasn't geared enough to do that content. When in the raid if a certain key player dies people just took the wipe. It wasn't worth the time wasted especially since people were trying to clear with a static on a time limit so that anons "clear" party that has a nin that died 4 times is clearly talking about a different scenario one that can't be really used as an argument.
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>>376906734
Your post is chock full of irony.
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>>376906797
It's not time wasted if you're having fun.
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Scrubs all over this thread cloud of darkness agrees.
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>>376906734
If anything it got even more pathetic than ever because it's now full of people who are full of themselves thinking they are the greatest shit ever because of it.
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>>376906952
>cloud
That's a puff.
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>>376893289

It's not 4.0, it's 3.6
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>>376906952
>>376907143
>not using succubus

PLEBEIANS
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>>376907143
No this puff a darkness.
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>FFXIV """"raiding""""
You're playing a glorified memory game. I'm not even excited to try savage because it doesn't look any more fun than normal, it just has more steps you have to memorize.
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>>376906760
Meanwhile WAR gets the real Shoulder Tackle.
http://i.imgur.com/L4gOaTO.gifv
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>>376907306
Memory games are fun.
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>>376906459
I want Krile to discipline me.
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>>376906952
>>376907143
>>376907219
>not using Nanamo
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>>376907369
Then go play simon says. I expect more from what's supposed to be the most challenging pve content in any mmo.
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>creator released 6 months ago
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>>376907452
I hope she took a shit on your head.

God damn, I hate lalas.
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>>376904926
the purple ball gives her 16 stacks of damage up, if everyone ignores it she'll start spamming 20k implosions.
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>>376907306
You got a less worse game, faggot? WoW is dead since 2009.
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>>376907669
>Lalafells inspire autism both from their playerbase and from people obsessed with hating them

I don't get it, but it's amusing
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>>376907749
For raiding? Yeah, I prefer Wildstar
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>>376907778
>I don't get why people hate the race that has the most obnoxious and tryhard players
Lala players really are the worst. Fem lalas can be ok but I've never met a male lala that wasn't a shit.
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>>376907928
Isn't it an even worse WoW clone than RIFTâ„¢?
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>>376907306
Nice excuses fuckboy
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What should I spend my company seals on? I'm capped and have another 50k or so in gear I can trade in. Haven't played since 1.0 but I can't rank up anymore with seals.
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>>376908314
Coke. People still make airship components.

t. spent over 3m on coke for garlond steel and niggersteel ingots.
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>>376908049
Wildstar has some of the best pve content of any mmo. It's like an inverse xiv where everything but encounter design and combat is unpolished.
>>376908150
Sorry but watching videos of savage raid content doesn't excite me.
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>>376908314
Ventures dummy
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>>376908468
>Sorry but watching videos of savage raid content doesn't excite me.
lol?
You're supposed to play it not watch it
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>>376908468
>videocuck
Found your problem, had you entered content when it was relevant, you'd have a different opinion.
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So can someone explain to me the extra day we're getting for our sub? Is it the "End Date" or "Next estimated date of billing" that the extra day is applied?
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>>376906760
>Armor Crush refreshes wind buff
>Dancing Edge reduces slashing resist
>Aeolian Edge just deals damage
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>>376908567
>>376908573
>y-you just say that because you haven't played it
What part of 'doesn't excite me' do you fags not understand? It doesn't help that I already find xiv's combat and bosses mostly boring.
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>>376908552
What are ventures? Like I said, I haven't played since 1.0 so a lot of shit is rather confusing to me at the moment.
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>Sick of my current job after playing it since ARR launched, want to switch
>Hate cast bars
>Even fucking Samurai is going to get one
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>>376908843
Then send me all your stuff and fuck off elsewhere, faggot.
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>>376908843
go away if you don't like it then
how is that so hard
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My favorite part of FF14 raids is the music

I doubt Omega will be able to top Alexander when it comes to the OST
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>>376909151

>A1S farming for relic

TWENTY TWO SECTORS TESTED
FRAGMENTS IN ONE DIRECTION
CELESTIAL NOISE DETECTED
DELIRIUM UNSUSPECTED
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>>376909151
>Forward and Back: Aetherochemical Boogaloo
>good
No nigger.
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>>376909284
>>376909291

>Locus
>Brute Justice
>Rise
>Not three of the best songs in the game
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>>376909284
how many a1s runs do you need for your relic
thinking about doing a9s instead for relic
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>>376908914
Please be true I want to laugh at SAMfags/DPScucks
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>>376909386
Good King Nigger Nog and Equilibrium are the best songs of ARR and HW respectively. This is objective truth.

>>376909392
80ish with sturdy bonus.
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>>376909386
Moebius > everything else
fight me
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>>376909506
Lack of french horns makes the instrumentation a sack of shit. Soken needs to re-read his books.
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>>376909464

It's 99% confirmed, they fucking love showing that drawn out slice move.
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>>376908927
>>376909070
>I don't want to raid so that means I should quit playing
Fucking kek. I didn't say I hated the game, I just don't care about savage raids.
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>>376909392

Around 90+ depending on bonus. I got mine at 102 I think?

Each run is maybe 3 minutes but people sometimes do 2:30. However A1S is pretty much the fastest way to do your light farm for the anima and there'll be parties for it at even early morning or late night on weekdays.
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>>376909628
Found the shitter who's been slowing me down in expert roulette.
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>>376909506
>>376909386
>>376909151

>Going into 12 blind and experiencing timestops and timegates for the first time

Seriously the only Alex normal fight I would queue into just for fun.
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>get blown away in Bismarck EX and having to sit out for most of the fight
>white lanner whistle drops
>roll for it
>win

I feel terrible, yet also joyous.
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>>376909712
>Implying I wouldn't out dps you even with my 256 ilvl
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>>376909818
post fflogs
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>>376909818

Post your logs. Surely you've done some EX primals at least?
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>>376909818
Found the shire hero with shit stats who'd lose on DPS to a tank.

>>376909814
You must be a dragoon.
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>>376909772

>2:05 to 2:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBOgmeIAJkI#t=2m05s
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>>376909885
>>376909892
>muh logs
Why are you raid shitters so predictable?
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>>376909994
i really doubt you're good at this game or even play this game at all
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>>376909994

>Won't even post his primal numbers

So you're trash. No need to work yourself up my dude.
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>>376908914
>SAM shares gear with MNK
>they literally said that they have a stance gimmick that is pretty much exactly MNK's.
>Instead of Raptor->Coeurl->Opo Opo you have Setsu, Getsu and Ka
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>>376909910
The guy I queued with was a dragoon and lived longer than I did. I was SMN and I forgot about that knock back going into the final phase.
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>>376909994
>someone brags about their dps
>ok hot shot, prove it
>hurr you tryhards are so predictable

do you walk into alcohol stores without your id and get this defensive when they ask for it there too?
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>>376910053
I started playing 2 months ago but even after 1 month I can tell you I'm already better than the majority. Not that it's hard to be though, so many people are pretty bad. The worst was this one drk who couldn't hold emnity for shit. I don't understand how he could be fucking up that bad.

>>376910081
I don't even know how to do logs since I've never cared that much. Hell, the only times I've used a meter is to check my numbers and how I was doing compared to other dps in the group. Otherwise I don't have it on.
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>>376910443
Stop making excuses, shitter.
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>>376908914
Since YoshiP plays a BLM, all melee jobs will now have cast bars, so they're not unfairly more mobile.

Please look forward to it.
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>>376910443

What's your character name, then? I'm sure you've been logged by someone else at some point.
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>>376910443
so you're trash at this game
alright got it
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>>376909386
Every coil song was better than anything in Alex.
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>>376910417
Saying I could out dps someone who likely has all bis gear and who knows what they're doing was obviously bantz, my man.
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>>376910443
You're not amazing just because you know how to do mechanics. Unwillingness to show logs is a huge red flag for anyone talking trash here.
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>Forget to close ACT
>Next day computer feels a bit laggy
>check task manager
>ACT is using 4 gigs of memory
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>>376910525
Hughe Mungus.

I doubt anyone will have me logged since I haven't done any savage raids.
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>>376910652
I didn't say I'm amazing, just that I'm better than most players. Are you going to deny that most players are bad?
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>>376910731
so you're only level 22?
you can't be ilvl 256 on a level 22 character
and why the fuck are you saying savage raids are boring when you haven't even touched any raid content at all
jesus man
>>
IT'S THE SAME GUY EVERY THREAD
STOP GIVING HIM YOUS
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>>376910950
With a le funny meme name like that, are you surprised?
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>>376910731

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/15517202/

There's only one character with that name that's above level 15. No wonder you don't have any logs, fucking shitter.
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>>376910950
kek, you actually checked. was it a roe? I bet it was a roe.
I'm not actually gonna post my character, you dummy.

Also, like I said before, looking at savage stuff doesn't make me excited to play it.
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>>376910731
well atleast you have the guts to post your character
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>>376911194

>Putting yourself up on a pedestal
>Too much of a coward to post your real details

Only people who are good at this game are allowed to shitpost, anon.
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>>376911194
>kek kek kek
shut the fuck up
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>>376911194
how can i believe you when you constantly lie
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>>376911293
>implying implications
I never said I was the bestest player in the world.

>>376911308
You need to calm down.
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>>376911194
>looking at savage stuff doesn't make me excited to play it
I bet girls say this to you all the time.
>>
>Guy thinks hes an expert
>Hasnt even touched savage
>Says he can do it, but just "doesnt feel like carrying people, heh"

I swear I meet these people daily ingame.
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>>376911404
This is true.
Everything I say past this point is the truth though.

>>376911432
I'll have you know girls love me and my 10 inch penis.
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>>376908860
Ventures are retainer shekels. Give them a venture and they go 'venturing.
>>
>>376911419

>Not the bestesst player in the world

I'd be surprised if you even break 1k dps on a monk.
>>
>>376911419
so you haven't touched any savage content at all?
i mean it's fine to not like the content
but to have never touched it and claim it's shit
>>
stop fucking replying to the retard retards
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>>376911450
I actually don't mind carrying people as long as they don't get others killed.

>>376911613
I didn't say it was shit, I said I'm not interested in it. It's boring to me, mostly. There are a few bosses I like though, like brute justice and the a11 boss.
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I really like the Paladin's AF3. The white, cape and the bag is a perfect combination for me.
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>>376907640

>by the time next raids releases it will have been 8-9 months
>8-9 months between raids
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>>376912062
>want to play paladin cause muh aesthetics
>tank a dungeon at 20
I can't do it. I don't care how much I like the sets, I just can't do it.
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>>376912062
>want to play PLD just because of the AF3
someone stop me
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>>376912250
Stop. PLD is a shit job.
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>>376912062
>cape

I mean if you want to call it that, but we all know it won't have physics until it reaches the ass and thus be an ass cape.

Also that fucking circlet and the wind chime hanging off of it
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>>376912062
It look like leveling gear.
>>
What should I be doing while waiting for queues at level 60? I am not sure what gathering or crafting is even worth gil at this point.
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>>376904097
>It's not lupus
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>>376912383
>not having instant queues
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>>376912363
>but we all know it won't have physics until it reaches the ass and thus be an ass cape.

Bravo, Yoshida.
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>>376912250
Isn't it the whole point of playing PLD? Cool AF and weapons?
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>>376912339
xd
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>>376912182
please, there's a bunch of classes at that level that are equally awful

whm is just aero, stone and cure
drg is literally just heavy thrust and impulse drive unless you meme it up with venomous bite and fracture
ACN is miasma > bio > ruin spam
blm is fire > ice > thunder > fire repeat

paladin is not alone here
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>>376912339
It will be good in Stormblood.

Please let it be good in Stormblood.
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Fishing is comfy.
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>>376912559
At least WAR and DRK at low level can spam an AoE that actually contributes.
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>>376912560
It won't as long as Flash deals fuck-all damage.
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>>376912560
PLD and DRK can't be good at the same time, so if DRK doesn't get some serious changes to its current skillset PLD will still be useless.
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>>376912694
That's why PLD get 2 aoe in SB.
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>>376912559
I'm not talking about damage, I'm talking about being able to pull a group and keep it on me. I don't want to level to 30 or whatever just so I can hold emnity better.
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>>376910287
How MNK works? I never played one above level 15 and videos are always a shiny mess. Can't just do PotD either since I don't have a job stone so I will be just a level 60 pugilist.
>>
do you still get the roulette daily bonus if you go in as a non-standard party composition?
>>
>>376912786
literally just double or triple flash and then cycle through the group with fast > savage and you won't lose aggro
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>>376912807
You can't do roulette if you don't follow its rules, party composition included.
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>>376912559
>BLM sync down to sub-50
what is even the point of this
>>
>>376902186
>tank is doing okay, switch to cleric stance
>tank hp dips hard, panic during that five seconds
It's stressful as fuck anon.
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>>376912775
You guys are gonna be so mad if those are both single target and just have huge animations.
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>>376912786
PLD holds aggro equally as well as WAR until 30. Flash is nowhere near as weak as you seem to think it is.
>>
Is running 1 to 40 potd still the best way to gain exp? Or am I missing something
>>
>>376912951
Found the healslut.
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>>376912951
Tell him to use cooldowns and stop spiking so often. That or known when tankbusters happen in raids.
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>>376913123
51-60
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>>376890375
>ctrl +f thavnarian
> no results

if you ever plan on doing your anima stocking up on thavnarian mists and superior enchanted inks are good ways to get sands. you need them 5 each at a time, costing 450 poetics total.
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>>376913123
dungeons are the fastest if you're a tank
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>>>>>376913265
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