Let have a mmo thread

i like grinding

>tfw no good sandbox pve mmos

fishing lvl?

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>>376879546
i just want an ace online remake with good graphics.

How terrible is Wildstar? I was checking through my Humble Bundle shit I never activated and I see that I have some starter kit for Wildstar, which prompted me to look into the game. I apparently have an account for the game, so I must've played it during the beta, but I can't remember it at all and I know the game has changed quite a bit.

Sometimes I have the itch to play WoW, but I refuse to spend money on it. I know you can buy time with gold now, which I've done a few months, but then I feel compelled to play because otherwise I'm wasting my virtual currency that has no bearing on real life.

I wish FF XIV would just make the base game f2p so I could just dick around with that game when I'm bored.

>>376879834
its not bad the pvp sever is just dead so you gotta play pve but gameplay wise its not terrible.

>>376879870
I always end up picking pvp servers and then never engage in pvp, while getting assmad when I get ganked.

>>376879658
anymore reaction pics?

>Archeage Alpha and Beta
>game is almost perfect
>has the class creation and stats of RIFT
>economy like EVE but less Autismo
>own businesses, farms, merchants
>there are merchant guilds, body guard guilds, pirate guilds
>It's almost fucking perfect
>Release comes out
>worst Pay to Win ever seen in MMO's to date
I'm still mad

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>>376879834
It's pretty good, actually. It's just pretty low-pop. The game has most of it's problems fixed since the horrid launch and then subsequent relaunch.

Gameplay-wise, it's pretty much a much better WoW. And surprisingly, when the game starts taking itself serious at 40-50 endgame, the story can actually get pretty good. Real shame it doesn't get more players.

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>>376879909
its because the whatever empire faction was called is super dead and all the rpers go to the happy go lucky rebel forces, happend to me too.

>>376879939
only one more for you

>>376879961

>Bought $60 starter pack to play in closed/open beta
>Destiny releases same day
>hear ArcheAge goes to shit
>bored a year later, decide to install
>game doesn't give me any of the rewards that I paid for
>file a ticket
>denied

okay

>>376879961
happend to planetside 2 as-well, the beta was fuckin perfect and then they ruined everything

Any MMO is playable/fun if you have an active and dedicated group of friends/e-friends to play with. Modern MMOs are shit, because "it's fun with friends" can't carry them anymore, thanks to the quality of life improvements in the genre removing the need to socialize, and the fact that most of us have no real life friends, or at the very least ones that waste their time playing vidya/MMOs.

>>376879658
same but with a 3rd faction added and no tank class.

>>376879961
Didn't they do that shortly before release and not on release

>>376879546
Are there any notable upcoming/new releases? I kinda miss having a long term time waster, especially if it plays like Dragon Nest.

>>376879638
Minecraft

>>376880026
Not him but what is the story like?

>>376880026
I just checked the stats for Steam and it has ~300 people playing, which is pretty low. I was curious how that compared to Rift, because I've also played that for a bit post f2p, and Rift has much more players. Honestly though, I'm at the point where I'll play a single player MMO and be fine. The older I've gotten, the more autistic and aspy I've gotten about grouping with random people.

>>376879658
my nigga

>>376879546
Anybody here still playing Dragon Nest? I stopped playing three years ago since it was slowly turning into a pay to play by end game. Last I had was a lvl. 60 Dark Summoner.

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>>376880158

>>376879834
>>376880026
I would argue the leveling was pretty fucking shit. If they want the players to experience the end game that badly, they should have lower it to like 20-30 instead of giving out a limited time max level offer

>>376880158
Maybe The Secret World.
It's getting a HUGE update that is supposed to make the combat good? And they're reworking a tonne of other stuff too.
Probably the best questing of any game ever. Those fucking Investigations were amazing.

I'm currently playing ESO. It's an awful Elder Scrolls game, but it's not a bad MMO.

>>376880219
Two factions of alien races are fighting and racing to colonize a newly discovered planet called the Nexus, while at the same time trying to discover the secrets of an ancient race that inhabited it.

It's just very lighthearted and simple in the beginning. The game can get surprisingly dark at points, though.

CoH private servers when?

Its all I can think about lately, the nostalgia is hitting me bad

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Is there anything NEW COMING OUT THAT I MIGHT ENJOY?

I want us to pick a new game and swarm it like we used to. Anyone remember the Aura Kingdom guild? How about the PSO2 guild? We used to even have a Mabi guild.

Come on /v/

what's going to be the new flavor of the month?

>>376880358
>I would argue the leveling was pretty fucking shit.
Damn, that's a dealbreaker. I'm more of an altoholic than anything. In most games, as soon as I reach the cap, I make another alt and start again.

>>376880391
Well yeah I am familiar with the basic premise and background of the game. I was more curious about the
>when the game starts taking itself serious at 40-50 endgame, the story can actually get pretty good
bit

How can this guy be such a comedy genius? How does he do it guys?

https://youtu.be/SAtD582a6cw

>>376880290
>generic korean grindfest with zero inspiration
>notable upcoming release

lol

>>376879961
Why does this happen to so many MMORPG? Beta and Alpha are perfect. Everything about the game is looking great.

And then on launch

>Oh hey we're going to make this one little change that completely fucks over the game. I hope you enjoy!

>>376880413
>tfw will never play freshly-f2p LotRO with /v/ again

>get into a Star Wars mood recently
>want to go back to SWTOR because I never did finish Kotfe and can start the next expac
I know its a glorified shitty single player game, but its still probably the closest I'l ever get to Kotor 3.

>>376880035
what's it called?

>>376880290
Are we going to be getting in on this one?

I'll play anything as long as it's with you guys.

>>376880673
>I'll play anything as long as it's with you guys.

a-anon, I...

I work for an MMO company, AMA

>>376880290
You do know the Russian version was so bad they put it on hold indefinitely

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Black Desert Online is fun until you hit 56 and get the Awakening.

>>376880786
Why do they treat them like mobile games? Why are RPG so shallow?

>>376880804
HAha what

No, story, please.

The Elder Scrolls Online is fun!

Is it worth getting back into TERA? I quit the first time before Poru Elinu was destroyed and they had scythe loli as a new class.

Has anything else been added or changed?

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was the magic because it was open world, it run on a toaster and everyone got to experiece 10% of the game for free not knowing that they were experiencing only 10% of the game?
i would argue that members missed out

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[Huehuehues internally]

What are some mmo I can play by myself?
>inb4 why even play mmos
I have autism and I deserve respect

>>376880910
No I'm serious. The publisher ceased all testing basically saying it wasn't up to standards and they were shutting it down indefinitely to they can "go back and fix it or something".

Here's the announcement
https://bless.101xp.com/news/bless-otpravlyaetsya-na-dorabotku

>After discussion with the developers, we have come to a decision on the closure of Russian-speaking servers Bless May 25, 2017 . The game goes on completion for an indefinite period, to return in the future in an improved form.

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Post characters of the MMO youre currently playing.

I don't play MMOs anymore

I follow ones in development, hype myself up a bit then play for a month following bitter disappointment because the game didn't live up to the promise

Can't wait for the kickstarter MMOs to let me down, it'll be a new experience.

>>376881010
It was because of availability (No one would care if it couldn't be ran out of a browser) and because it introduced a lot of neat sandbox things that modern MMORPGs just don't have.

>>376881098
christ FUCK this game.
I still have 600 unspent cash shop dollars that I'll never spend. So much of it was shit on after Beta.

>>376880980

>farm up tier 8 gear
>spend all your money upgrading it all to +12 so you can farm up tier 9 gear
>so you can spend all your money again to +12 to farm up Tier 10 gear

Keep repeating and the dungeons aren't that interesting. Not worth.

>>376880508
Devs get confident of a large player base from the alpha/beta and get fat dollar signs in their eyes.

Greed takes ever and they try every trick in the book to try and make as much money as possible as fast as possible.

>>376881123
Runescape
EVE Online
BDO
Modern FFXI

>>376881151

Still waiting for another MMO to have a similar quest system

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Anyone play anything anime styled that they would recommend?

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>>376881098
>nearly 1 year after release
>still dead

Why did the savior of MMOs have to die?

I still play LOTRO, but only because I'm a big Tolkien fan and like to get together with other Tolkien fans on there. The gameplay is zzzzz, but I tolerated it to be able to explore more of Middle-Earth. I usually hate hunter/archer classes but went with that in LOTRO because they have the best travel skills.

>>376880835
>56
dude ican't even bother getting to 51 the game bores me to tear i kinda wanna sell my account to some shitty brazilian

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>>376881134
Does it count if I just quit playing it today?

>>376880980
Maybe you'll like playing as one of the newer classes. The leveling is very fast these days but you'll just run into this: >>376881250 sooner as a result.

Is anyone still playing DCUO? I've heard they're putting out new content pretty regularly, so I'm thinking about getting into it.

Last time I played, though, I dropped it the second I got to the end game grind. It was absurd, the amount of time and effort I'd have to devote just to get the next level of armor, it was ridiculous.

>>376879658
Don't you mean Space Cowboy?

>>376881326
The game itself was fine, the people running it were jews to the core.

>tfw You buy premium on one server and it's literally impossible to have premium on another server despite paying for it.

>>376881326
cuz they fucked up the simple formula of what made og RO good and that killed the hype train and the hopefuls from playing

>>376880385
I actually logged in to TSW recently just to reserve some cool names.

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>>376881010
>that time some guy pm'd me pretending to be a jmod telling me I scammed someone and that he needed my password and I believed him because I actually did scam someone
>that time some guy told me to type my password but don't hit enter and instead hit some key combo that did the same thing as enter
>that time some guy lured me into the wildy for my zammy helm
>that time my irl friend logged on my account and took my rune med so I hacked his account when he moved away
I miss it.

>>376881123
Check out FFXI. Old but solid game. Literally 15 years worth of content and you can solo 90% of it.

There is a promotion going on trying to get new players I think.

>>376881326
Because it was obvious that after CBT2, ToS was never ready to be officially released. They just launched it in hopes of attracting neetbux before the game's imminent death.

>>376881123
ESO, It has a lot of PvE content and if you git gud for PvP you can carry yourself pretty well.

Some of the best content is group content, although it's not really that hard to find a group, just coordinate a little and you can keep up your autist ways.

>>376880260
Nobody plays it on steam since launching it from there was fucked for a long time. The true peak is just below 3,000 consecutive per day.

>the golden age of free to play korean mmos is over
>no more downloading a new one every few weeks with your buddies

honestly what's even the point of living anymore

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>they're mmo doesn't have a monthly subscription fee
smdh-desu-senpai

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>>376881326
I quit after they removed trading for non-prem members. How dead is it now?

>>376881393
I play it occasionally on PS4. They merged the pc and PS4 servers. I like the combat but the locations are kinda boring. Cool armor designs too.

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how about an "mmo only you played" thread?

>>376881134
I miss mabinogi. If only someone released the same game with updated visuals and better combat.

The only dream I have for MMO's is for them to take dead MMOs, repackage them as singleplayer games, and then do a large count of modifications to make the game a better singleplayer experience. Increase XP rates, droprates, etc., put in some AI for basic NPC partners (even if they're all just based on generic player characters), leave all Cash Shop items in the game as super-rare collectibles, maybe even allow some P2P instancing for dungeons and whatnot. Just repurpose all of those old, dead assets into something new.

>>376881507
I forgot to put that addendum. I assumed that Wildstar has its own launcher because it came out before a Steam release (I think), and Trion has their shitty BNet clone launcher for Rift.

You know what MMO I miss, /v/? Fucking Neopets -- I wish my account from teenage years was never pruned for inactivity.

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>>376881134
I just started playing. I don't even know when I should be rebirthing or not.
Also after having so many MMORPGs just ask for my class at character selection, I don't get talents at all. So I can learn lots of talents or should I be focusing on only one talent?

I miss the time when gaming magazines made fun of MMOs with comics of low level players beating the crap out of bunnies on grassy fields

I wish there were more games like phantasy star online to be honest.

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>>376879639
99

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>>376881393
Fuck that fucking piece of shit. I played it when it first went f2p and grinded for days until I finally got strong PvP armor. The second strongest set in the game. At the time it took a painfully long time to grind for PvP gear. Then about a week after I finished my set the devs updated the game to give everyone double rewards for PvP currency. So everyone could grind and get the set twice as fast. Fuck that piece of shit game.

>>376881735
You need to research on "Combat Power" and deciding what you want to train, because the stronger you get, the harder it will be to train your skills if you rank them up without direction.

>>376881814
Did it look cool?

>>376881567
It's pretty dead unless you play on the SEA, SA, or JP servers.

Don't know why they don't just merge the 2 NA servers already.

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>>376881584
I have no idea why I even tried this game.

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>>376879546
Just bought Elder Scrolls online for PC. It is nice having Ultrawide support and controller support. Only about 4 hours in so far but liking it.

>>376881814
Why didn't you just grind for the actual strongest set then?

>>376879546
I think I vaguely remember this as being promoted as similar to Mabinogi a very long time ago. What happened to it?

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>>376881584
Shattered Galaxy was my favorite MMORPG and it's a shame because so few people played it that I doubt it will ever be replicated.

>>376881870
>JP
SEA and SA I understand but the JP population is actually good?

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what MMORPG are yall playin atm?

vanilla WoW for me

I wish we had more tactical/strategy MMO's like Atlantica Online i loved that fucking game. Nexon jewed the shit out of it then sold it to another "publisher" (there was proof that publisher was owned by Nexon itself) to jew it even harder, but now just care even less about it.

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>>376881795
Nice

>>376881842
I see.
Is it worth it training the talents meant for parties considering how dead the game is? Like the bard talent, for instance.

>>376881871
It looked cute, but aside from the grind these kinds of games just end up being full of bots and flips who might as well be bots

>>376881978
Vanilla WoW while occasionally jumping back to FFXIV in preparation for Stormblood

>>376881612
Mabinogi has fun combat for an MMO though. It largely just needs to be pruned and remarketed with better visuals.

>>376881134
You're one dedicated faggot. I used to do your draw requests because I liked how you were so over it on your meido chara. Now its 2017 and you're still at it.
>>376881735
Is it worth getting into mabinogi so late in the game? I've always wanted to give it a shot but afraid there won't be any people aside from the few people at their end game crisis.

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Always surprises me in these threads the amount of people who played this.

>implying I need to name it and you won't recognize it just from a glance

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>>376881584
i always win these

ive never heard of another human being who has played martial heroes

>>376881842
Aren't there only a handful of actual skills like that? It used to just be Windmill.

>>376881965
I don't know if it's "good" but it is certainly more alive than any western servers. That being said, they actually try and shill it over in asia.

They even made a TV commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV8DqilJsnw

>>376882107
Isnt that the I kidnap an afk player and make them into my sex slave mmo?

>>376881978
GW2. I wish the combat was better.

I'm waiting on the rework of The Secret World.

CAN ANYONE NAME A FEW MMOS THAT HAVE ACTUAL PEOPLE PLAYING WHO ACTUALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER AND AREN'T BOTS????

>>376882057
>for an MMO
Yeah I guess so. It could always improve.

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>>376882156
what the fuck

>>376882178
Same here. I don't really have a problem with the combat but it feels too reliant on event trains when you get to the HoT content.

Even then, I'm playing as Condi Engie and that's more technical compared to other classes and builds.

>>376882156
age of wulin. doesn't look like it

>>376880401
At least once a year, if not every 3 months, I get a strong urge to play it, realise I never will again and the rest of the day is miserable.

NCsoft was offered actual money for what would be needed for private servers and said no, so likely never.

>>376882178
is GW2 worth getting into as an MMO noob?

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>>376882184
Nope. Socializing is generally inefficient in MMOs now.

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>>376882156
>kidnap an afk player and make them into my sex slave
brb ;)

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>>376880290
>2017
>tfw still no western mmo with korean graphics

we either get a good content/pvp western mmo with horrible ugly graphics or an eye candy graphics asian mmo with horrible grindfest

>>376882086
>>376881871
>>376881735
i have either played all of these or none of them but they all seem really familiar
is it just the generic korean aesthetic?

>>376882086
fiesta online was the shit desu

Anyone know anything on pantheon rise of the fallen?

>>376882318
Leveling to 80 is a bitch and there grind on top of it. It P2W

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>tfw met my wife in Ragnarok Online

good time

>>376882489
Paul?

>>376882358
my favorite games are horrible western grindfest mmos with horrible graphics

>>376882439

tfw mum wouldn't pay for it anymore so I couldn't keep up without the blessing+exp boosts+damage charm farming

Young enough to love it, too young to pay for it

>>376880652
game center GX

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>private wow servers filled with chinks and autismo tryharders
>retail wow is fucking dead
>ESO is coop, not MMO
>everything else is korean grindfest

>>376882510
Elise?

>>376882510
Dashanique?

So how do people even go about making bots for these kinds of games? Why was it the chinese were always having bots for every f2p mmo? Did they make the bots themselves or did they just take it from somewhere?

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Accretia > Bellato > Cora

>>376882538
If wow is dead, what does that make everything else?

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>tfw playing RO and PSO again

My dream is to Have a Warcraft game with Elder Scrolls gameplay and being Single player only so I could be alone in my solitude in my favourite universe.

Todd should buy Warcraft rights lol.

S-surely Kickatsrter MMOs will b-be good right?

HAha right guys? Surely this time a good one will come out

ahaha yeah

>>376880026
my issue with wildstar was 2fold.
The art style or the colors they used just hurt my fucking eyes to look at, and not even in a meme way. Like, actually started to give me a headache.

The second is the combat. I hated it.

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Would you play an Etrian Odyssey MMO?

>>376882610
REMOVE SPACE ELVES

>>376882184
In ESO there's a really, really strong RP community. I've seen whole towns full of people RP'ing one thing. I was in Kvatch and the plaza was full with around 40 people RP'ing Imperial stuff.

>>376882591
some autist made the mod and the chinese just used the bots, easy as pie

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>ToRtanic is one of the better MMOs still out there
Did goobergaters get anything right?

>>376882295
I also wish the leveling was faster, at least for alt characters. Exploring was nice, the first time, and the stories are mediocre at best.

>>376882318
The community is active and friendly. People are always teaming up for events, since you kind of have to.

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>>376881970
>Chests and Red Tickets online

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I just hope they dont fuck up the relaunch.
This game deserves a good life for its atmo and top tier writing

>>376881929
looks like an aeria games mmo

same thing that happens to all their mmos
they squeeze out the neetbux from the players, the playerbase dies. then later there's a new mmo that looks the same because they re use the assets.

>>376882184
most MMOs have dedicated RP servers for the autists but you have to find a game with good lore and lots of players

how the FUCK do we fix the mmorpg genre? every mmo other than wildstar is more or less the same and wildstar was different in all the wrong ways and killed itself

>>376882184
You want social in an mmorpg you need to find a guild and be social. I don't know why you idiots think just playing online means someone will magically walk up to you and be your friend.

Or why you expect pugs to be super friendly social when most just want to get their daily dungons out of the way asap.

Seriously if you want social in an mmorpg, find a guild and get involved.

>>376882728
The Human personal story was pretty decent until you join a faction but my brain starts to shut down when Trahearne appeared and when I was doing the living story and HoT story over how dumb they are.

Is Mabinogi worth giving a serious try? Last time I tried to do herbalore and got bored quickly.

>>376882874
>how the FUCK do we fix the mmorpg genre?
Fire all "effective managers" who give 0 shit about game.

>>376882969
no

anything from nexon is not worth giving a serious try

>>376879658
>Ace Online
>Not Space Cowboy

Get the fuck out.

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>>376879546
you already pre-ordered, right /v/?

>>376879574
Honestly I prefer grinding to what modern MMOs do. Which is send you along a single linear world spanning quest line where nothing matters.

I liked how in games like runescape or ragnarok online you could just go wherever you wanted and grind whatever. You felt like you were steering your destiny and exploring the world instead of just being a passenger bused around to see all the setpieces.

And I enjoy grinding. It's a relaxing thing you can do while watching tv or whatever.

>>376882109
Some magics use it too, newest skills like ninja and gunner dont tho.

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>>376879546
Obligatory Warframe mention, grinny but fun

>>376882874
Kill cash shops

If cash shops didn't exist, half of the MMORPGs in this thread would still be viable.

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Did any of you guys play Maplestory back in 2005-2006? There's a private server doing a perfect recreation of it right now, still in beta testing though. 1x rates and progressive patching, basically a re-experience of the game

https://maplestory.global/

>>376882969
I'm giving it a try, but I'm running into a problem in that there's lots of outdated information for it and very, very few people to talk about it with.

All of the stater zones are ghost towns. I don't know if the later zones even have people in them.

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>that weird kid that had over a year playtime on WoW
none of you guys were that kid, right?

>>376881404
Don't you mean Air Rivals?

>>376882874
Pretty much >>376882989
No matter what, mmo are under the publisher's thumb and all they care are money and how to get them. The will tell the dev to make it a wow clone because it the best thing evar and rake up all the money it made it launch and abandon it.

>>376881376
It's painful to play other mmos after tera, the combat felt really good and responsive. And the Elins too cute.

>>376883083
Yeah, I was young then and had all the free time to grind the levels.

Looking back at it though it was just a huge waste of time.

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>>376883115
I was that weird kid who couldn't ever play WoW.
At least I don't have great memories of Vanilla WoW that can never be revisited.
On the other hand I don't have great memories of Vanilla WoW that can never be revisited.

>>376883115
Over four years in ffxi, nigga

>>376883005
>singleplayer game

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>>376881134

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>>376883083
I was into Guild Wars 1 instead. I miss that game.

>>376879870
There literally isn't a pve and pvp server anymore. It's so dead they only have one server for EU and one for US and even those are dead outside of peak hours.

Any good F2P mmos atm?

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>>376881892
Tier 1 took a really really long time to grind. In the time it took me to get the second best set I got one piece of the strongest set. The update let everyone get my set twice as fast but the strongest set still took ages. All it did was hand out the set I worked so hard for.

>>376883281
>F2P
>good

>>376881393
I played this back when T3 gear was the highest, and I think Earth powers were just released. Was in the top Villain PVP guild on the server, game was a lot of fun. pay2win DLC killed it for me though, along with not being able to purchase things on the AH unless you were a sub

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>>376883176
Yeah, I still love the combat. A shame about everything else.

>>376883281
SWTOR

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>>376883265
Human gods are evil dragon pawns now.

>>376883107
Server?

>>376882538
>retail wow is dead
>still the biggest mmo population-wise

not sure if retarded or just trying real hard

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>>376883251
>mechgirl
im going to need a name

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>>376881791
I would like it if SEGA wasn't a fucking dick and release PSO 2 West many years ago instead of region locking and alienating the Western Fan.

>>376879546
Does anybody know if there are any promising looking mmos coming up in future years? I feel like, besides ff14, we're too starved of mmorpgs in the west.

>>376879546
man I miss playing that for the fishing only
but fuck them for not making trading with players easy

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>>376881584

>>376883521
camelot unchained and kingdom come: deliverance

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>>376883493
PSO2. It's right there on the pic.

>>376883521
Nope.
I'm waiting to be disappointed by Camelot Unchained, if it ever comes out.

>>376883459
I still haven't forgiven those fucking Charr savages.

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>>376883459
Yes I know, and they have mount. Those fuck are just shitting the legacy of GW 1

>>376883251
Damn, nice looking.

>>376883221
Unless there are a lot of people on /v/ with 4 fucking years in FFXI, I saw your screenshot in the thread yesterday. How do you play that long my dude?

>>376883565
>kingdom come: deliverance

When will this meme end? It's a shitty barebones game with a world filled with nothing, made by someone who has no idea how to design or program videogames.

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>>376883265
Mah nigga.

>>376883459
I'm not even going to ask.

>>376883574
my bad i didnt see the watermark, my eyes had it just blend into the border

>>376883459
What the FUCK? Fuck this gay earth and fuck GW2.

Is DFO any good?

>>376882969
Mabinogi was ahead of its time. Hell, it still has better systems than a lot of popular MMOs today.

It was worth playing a decade ago but now it's pretty outdated. Needs a visual upgrade and a new engine. They tried to make a mabinogi 2 but made a mobile game instead cus lol easier gacha money.

You never stop leveling in mabinogi so people are in thousands in levels. You'll be years behind everyone unless you pay up to speed up the process.

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>>376882912
What they mean is that being social is more than joining a guild and spamming chat with 4chan memes. If you're playing MMOs for that, you should really consider making online friends another way and playing games actually worth playing.

Doing things together. And no, dungeons that can be run with randoms don't count. MMOs are supposed to be all about player interaction, but look at them. FFXIV is practically a fucking singleplayer game and people eat it up. Same with WoW.

>>376881301
>EVE Online
>playing without a corp

>>376882610
Kinda missed this old piece of junk. Always wanted to get a Bellato for those meme mechs but I sticked with Accretia for a while

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>>376883514
Just play the JP version.

>>376883459
Why must nu-arenanet rape GW so hard? Is the human hate a manifestation of the SJW infestation? First the charr/human stuff and now even the human gods get shat on. It's allways humans=bad evil racists charr=poor oppressed different looking heroes.

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Guys, I miss it. Mabinogi is the only MMO I've played with a remotely similar combat system.

>>376883489
Are you implying the entire MMO genre isn't in decline right now?

>>376883489
its death isn't measured in number of players but in the fact that you don't actually need to interact with anyone to do anything

>>376883459
game? Is this GW2?

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>>376883617
>>376883640
http://imgur.com/a/ZEQDi
Long story short, Human God is weaken now, bully a mary sue crippled child and your human character is indifferent with this encounter

>>376883796

guild wars the first

is there an MMO that has

>toaster friendly grafix
>tons of content
>not overtly weeb aesthetic
>WASD movement

>>376883768
When exactly did the decline begin? '07?

>>376883781
Because it's one of the most inclusive MMOs out there and caters to loners and hardcore players alike. That doesn't anything to do with it.

>>376883675
something to add:
it has fantastic music at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbwGr3XT57c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COhXgaq6Tks

the composer's talents are wasted on this game

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anyone play raiders of icarus ?

>>376883726
Is it worth it though?

>>376883851
>toaster friendly grafix
>tons of content
>WASD movement
Mabinogi

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>>376883617
I like how I can mix and match my armor to this.

>>376883875
>caters to hardcore players

what are you smoking

>>376883936
As hardcore as an MMO can be, you fucking baby. Anything not at EQ levels of autism is good enough.

>>376883913
i remember playing that like a decade ago

worth spending some time in now?

>>376883615
the lead designer made two objectively good games though

>>376883589
>>376883590
>>376883757
I don't think any game made me despise the antagonist faction as much as Guild Wars did. The Mursaat were exploiting Kryta, but they were defending the world against a greater threat and Margonites were just misguided humans that had no choice but to do what they did. Not the Charr though, no. They hated everything and they killed everything, they sold their entire race off to the titans just to have a shot at it and when it failed to earn them victory, stalled and choked, they turned on their benefactors and those that allowed them to win against Ascalon in the first place. No amount of shitty fanfiction and retcons can erase that.

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>>376880508
That basically never happens so I dont know what you're talking about. In all these CBT/OBT for new MMO's the writing is on the wall anon. Hopefully some creative game design is followed in mmos to come because people are sick of the current shit. Well everybody besides the koreans who love autism grinding. Black Desert is still popular in SK even though it doesn't have a properly functioning friends list and is grindy pay2win trash.

>>376880290
Literally the same anon posting these Bless screens in every MMO thread I've seen. That shit is dead in the water, even the russians didn't want it.
>But muh still in development they're changing the combat!
If they're so out of touch they didn't realize the game was such garbage after years of development how the fuck are they going to suddenly change it to be the perfect MMO?

The next big MMO will have to be made by the west once the sandbox meme and WoW are killed off for good. Ashes of Creation, Crowfall, all of these shitty indie games are going to be stillbirths in a sea of kikestarter scam money.

>>376883493
It's a trap. The game is. PSO2 is just another pretty waifu simulator at this point.

>>376883982
>>376883675

I know I'm the cancer killing MMOs but if WoW becomes truly f2p I'll be the first to come back

and no I can't be bothered to compete with Chinese gold farmers to buy tokens

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>>376880835

>56

I got burnt out by the shitty grind at 51. I bought it at launch and didn't regret the money spent though. ~20 hours of fun memories with 2 friends was worth the $40.

>>376883973
>As hardcore as an MMO can be
pretty sure you could get fully geared out just by playing that facebook fort, at least in WoD

>>376883726
Has never and will never be worth the effort to play the jap version. The game has been flooded with jap land stuff so you'd be missing out on so much. Not to mention the english patch is still utter shit and has several spots not translated.

Or the fact the item name overlay breaks still.. or any other countless reason.

Just stay away from pso2. SEA servers are closing this month. Thgey didn't do too well which isn't surprising they put the fucking servers in SEA.

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>>376880026
>tfw you waited years for this
>tfw you pre-ordered deluxe
never again

>>376884110
being a pre-slurper is genetic. You'll pre-slurp again

>>376884085
Aside from needing incredible luck, you also needed to kill a number of bosses in a higher difficulty. That's never happened, unless your definition of "fully geared out" is extremely loose.

>>376883890
Tried it, Mount pokemon is kind ameh and flying was far far too limited for a game all abuot capturing your own flying mount.

Combat is trash. Good for a couple days of entertainment and then forgettable.

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>>376883675
>They tried to make a mabinogi 2 but made a mobile game instead cus lol easier gacha money.
Well there's also the fact that it looked awful and completely different from Mabi.
https://youtu.be/TntUf9MBVxs

>>376883982
Hard to say. It's got a ton of content and they shower new players with freebies these days though so it's not really a bad time to try it.

>>376879961
>Archeage

Never been big on MMORPGs but something that catch my eye in that game was the class mixing system.
Are there other games with that?

>grinding the genre
Why do people even play mmo's?

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>tfw your friends make stuff of your character because you like it

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>say I'm going afk
>walk my character to a 'rest spot' in-game even if there's no open-world pvp

>get so used to being called my characters name it takes me a minute to recognize when someone calls me by my irl name

>>376884272
The social interaction part for older mmos where people treated it as second life lite with clans, politics, rivalries, treasons and drama. Marketing and instant gratification today.

>>376884272
So, diablo clones?

>>376884272
To grind

>>376881098
I can't tell you how excited I was for this after loving RO for so many years. I can't even begin explaining how terrible and disappointing this game was. Even for current MMO standards this game is complete crap.

>>376884314
this desu

>>376883994
That is just a Story and Lore point. They fuck up PvP, WvW, abandon Dungeon/Fractal, and added tons of highly detail cash shop item instead of putting them as a ingame reward. For fuck sake, they still haven't deliver all the promise they made with the expansion.

>>376883675
I thought with Mabi, levels didn't really matter because diminishing returns made it where someone at a really high level could still party with someone at a much lower level provided they both had proper mastery of their talents.

>>376884314
normies flocking to the internet is what killed mmos and i will always be salty about it

>>376883902
Nah,unless you enjoy grinding no

Is Dragon's Dogma Online any good? How's the time-gating? Any pay wall?

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>nothing to look forward to except a fucking FF14 expansion

can't wait for another round of disappointment like heavensward was at launch

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>>376881584
Almost positive I'll win this one.

Dream Drops. JP server, although I think it had the same name in other regions (Taiwan? Korea? Can't remember which other regions got it)

Unfortunately I forgot to save my own character pics when I changed PCs, this is just from google. I had a very cute max level 'Little Hero' (Indian class). It was a fairy-tale setting with a bunch of popular fairy tales mixed up together. The main classes were Toy Soldier (tank), Pictomage (mage), Little Hero (Native American motif, melee or ranged DPS depending on build), Patissiere (healer)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYKRJ1uBCy8

>>376883083
I dunno man. Most of my good Maplestory experiences came from interactions with players. Private servers are gonna be ded af.

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waiting for gw2 to go on sale
also I need something that is not a subscription
and not korean

>>376884326
>playing actiblizz trash games

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>>376881584
i miss this game, it got to p2w for me

>>376883868
Probably at whatever point mobile games and "esports" became popular.

>>376884023
Didn't it also completely fuck the lore by going "it's actually a high school video game!" or some shit?

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>>376884491
Are you just here to shitpost?

>>376884490
Don't do it. They don't deserve your money.

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>>376884272
To satisfy my altitis. Champions Online fit the bill for me quite nicely.

>>376884272
>FPS games
>grind out by killing countless nps or grind your multiplayer level
>normal rpgs
>grind out levels to go save the world
>fighting game
>grind out combos and pratice untill you git good and can fight other people.

every fucking game is a grind in one way or another.

>>376884582
I tried to be f2p
it hurts and I don't fall for cosmetic bullshit

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>>376884109
>The game has been flooded with jap land stuff so you'd be missing out on so much.

Elaborate.

Not to mention the english patch is still utter shit and has several spots not translated.

Also elaborate. All menus and systems are in english, and anything else you might need can be explained by guides online or asking the community. The English patch has also apparently completed translation of the EP4 story.

>Or the fact the item name overlay breaks still..
I haven't seen that lately. A while ago sometimes the item translation plugin just wouldn't work for a while, but that seems to have been taken care of.

>Just stay away from pso2. SEA servers are closing this month. Thgey didn't do too well which isn't surprising they put the fucking servers in SEA.

The SEA version was a mistake to begin with. The company handling it was more than a year behind on content, fucked up the balance of the game, and added extra jewery like costume affixes.

>>376879546
>They're all trash edition.

>>376884390
You can party at whatever levels, the higher level player will just steamroll everything while the lower level one just watches though.

Levels give you skill points, and skills give you stats. A higher level person has more stats and those determine damage, hp, etc.

>>376884412
I mean, you have to like grinding to some extent for MMOs. How's the fashion collecting?

>>376883726
Fuck. Like Hi Rez and Tribes Ascend, when you fuck over a bunch of players, no amount of update would bring them back.

>>376884490
>gw2
Stay far away from it.
>not a sub
Every f2p or b2p game is shit. There's only a handful of old sub gone f2p games that are worth your time. Stick to sub based games, You don't suffer p2w bullshit there.

>not korean
yeah good luck there. Outside the few big names you're not going to find a non-korean mmorpg worth playing.

>>376884734
I think it's just that Sega doesn't care for any non-JP playerbase. PSO2 was like the third biggest Japanese PC game behind FF14 and Kancolle a year or so ago.

>>376883781
...That's literally every fucking MMO out there now, not just WoW.

>>376884710
>The game has been flooded with jap land stuff so you'd be missing out on so much.
>Elaborate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33jlBdcwbic

>>376879834

You can play FFXIV to level 35 now for an unlimited time period.

any games exactly like silkroad online? i'm in the mood for some comfy grinding

>>376884852
which is why MMO is pretty much a dead genre

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>>376884490
This image is still relevant today. The grind after level 80 is pretty fucking shit, too.

>>376884390
It's not diminishing returns so much as it is total level not really doing anything in terms of stat/skill increases. Skills are the primary source of stats, the main goal of leveling is to get AP to increase said skills with. Theoretically, yes, someone at a very low total level could compete with someone at a much higher total level if their skills were similarly ranked, but since leveling is the main method of getting AP it's practically impossible to get your skills that high at very low levels.

Current level isn't that important either, but it does give you temporary stats.

>>376884569
what the fuck is that thing

>>376884925
A dragoon.

>>376884916
Yes, but saying WoW is dead is fucking stupid. There are millions of subscribed players still.

>>376884710
>fucked up the balance of the game, and added extra jewery like costume affixes.
Honestly I won't be surprised if they add that stuff into JP considering Forces are forever top tier and they've been experimenting with star gems a lot.

I'm pretty scared what EP5 would be like since Summoner is boring and everything but the new EQs sucked.

>>376884569
He's got a good point. Actiblizz games are utter shit.

>>376884967
it's a hyperbole

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>>376884861
The ARKS dance party and concerts come back periodically, and those definitely aren't major things to miss. Hell, they regularly rotate events every couple of months. So much so that I think we've only had the default lobby theme once in the last year.

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>>376884958
Wrong series, anon.

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>>376884861
oh god why

>>376884850
Yes and that PR alone was a big fuck you to me. If they think that region locking me out for years and lifting it recently would make me go to them, then they can rot in hell.

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>>376884984
Blizzard didn't invent grinding, you nostalgiacuck. They're the heart of MMOs.

>>376884861
>a short as fuck event that gives free buffs and rarely ever happens anymore
Complain about shitty collab scratches if you want, but that's fucking nothing.

>datamining
>open betas
>guides
>databases
Metagaming killed MMO.

>>376885054
Yes, blizzard games are shit with or without grinding.

Where do people find bots for these old korean mmos?

>>376883565
>kingdom come: deliverance

That's a singleplayer game anon.

>>376884918
What's with the rock? All I see are a bunch of faggots, attention whores, cash shop shit no one would wear and bad pricing.

>>376881098
how did they fuck this one up? p2w out the ass?

>>376885104
Every game they make sells millions and is high rated.

>>376885261
And that does nothing to prove their quality.

>>376884918
Is it bad that I'm so used to everything else in this image that the most upsetting thing is Teddy Nguyen's twitter profile identifying them as an employee for GW2 but that they mostly play FFXIV instead? That shit's just unprofessional.

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>>376885215
Cash Shop Mini Pet.

>All I see are a bunch of faggots, attention whores
They're the main staff of the Neo Anet. They inject their retarded political crap into the game while ignoring vital game content like actual skill balancing or WvW fixing

>cash shop shit no one would wear and bad pricing.
Every time a wing was added to a cash shop, every one buys it and wear it.

>>376884918
well shit guess I'm not buying that now

>>376885027
It's more the point it has nothing to do with ARKS. The dance festival is purely a jap land thing in origin and design.

It ruins the the whole sci-fi vibe and setup the series has. Having an giant attack on titan guy in the lobby was pretty stupid as well. Adding all the anime costumes and weapons too. It simply doesn't fit with PSO and ruins it all.

>>376885376
I was calling Destiny's Edge 2.0 faggots, but I guess anet staff could also be called faggots.

>>376885215
Because attention whoring and adding minorities into their game is the only thing they think about when sitting down to discuss development. They don't give a fuck about making an actually good game, they only care about making a game that would appeal to their ideas. For fuck's sake, the game called GUILD WARS still doesn't have GVG. The same WvWvW imbalanced shit that rewards people just zerging blindly, running guardian trains hasn't been fixed since release. They don't give a fuck, they just don't.

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>>376884918

>>376885467
Yeah it still fucking annoys me that they're using those tumblrite as story character. They fuck up their first impression in the first Living Story and I hate seeing them since.

>>376885453
>It ruins the the whole sci-fi vibe and setup the series has. Having an giant attack on titan guy in the lobby was pretty stupid as well. Adding all the anime costumes and weapons too. It simply doesn't fit with PSO and ruins it all.

Welcome to Modern Japanese game collabs.

>>376885564
Does Rytlock at least get any better since he became a Revenant?

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>>376884918
>faggots and numales ruined the guild wars franchise

What mmos have good gunslingers? I rarely see those except for defiance but fucking trion are jews.

>>376885564
I want to fuck the large norn redhead though.

>>376885758
Eir was BLACKED though.

>>376884918
The tranny left iirc
desu the player meta makes the game worse. Anet doesn't know what its doing and just nerfs all the fun builds. PURITY OF PURPOSE

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>>376885453
Hi I'm here to make all the plastic-looking collab outfits canon. I'll also try to do nothing and wonder what my purpose is for 10 months and hijack your story afterwards

>>376884881
Does this only work with a new account? I got the game at launch but quit after the first month.

>>376885924
As long as you didn't buy the game on that account.

>>376881151
It sucks that browser games are pretty much dead now.

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>>376885812
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Jessica_Teddy_Croft
Faggot Teddy still works for Anet shitting on the legacy of Guild Wars 1 with this horrible story idea. Angel Hamburger McCoy still promote Scarlet from time to time.

>>376880508
Because they're betas.
>zero monetization
>boosted exp rates
>free stuff for easier testing experience
>common patches so the game feels fresh
>being fresh experience in general, on release you have to redo everything but slower
etc etc

>>376886298
Well it sucks, because it feels like games will just hit the 'evil' switch the second it launches and spiral the game into shit.

>>376886661
How do you expect a company to make money if they don't do things that make them money?

>>376886763
By making a game that's good? By having a cosmetic shop? By making quality content? By doing literally anything but the great sins that result in most of these games dying like P2W items?

Pump and dump isn't a valid marketing strategy, but MMO developers seem to disagree.

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It's a shame it doesn't have that many players, it's actually pretty fun despite the somewhat retarded story.

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>>376884918
I am almost regretting playing the first game at this point. Everytime i read or see something about guild wars 2 it remindes me of what they have done to gw1. More hatred than love at this point.

Shame that there is no mmo whith similiar mechanics.

Any of you fags PC-NA on ESO I don't mind making gear for new players or answering dumb questions cause I'm bored leveling an alt before I have to level my warden in 9 days.

>>376887095
You seen this?
>>376883821

I gave up on MMOs the day this released.

Guild Wars Prophecies was literally perfect. It was amazing. The PvP was balanced and fun the atmosphere and everything else was great.

They had a literal golden opportunity to make something incredible. And they just took a fat shit all over it as well as my hopes and dreams. Fuck you Colin.

>>376887253
Colin left the company last year.

>>376882912
>Or why you expect pugs to be super friendly social when most just want to get their daily dungons out of the way asap.
Because that's how it used to be you fucking post-wow faggot

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>>376884918
The image that got me to reinstall guild wars.

>>376887162
yes. and i still log in to get every episode for free.
>>376887285
damage is already done.

>>376880786
Are the working conditions a damnable hell on earth?

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>shitty Korean RO ripoff
>game had an oddly tight knit community
>heard people were hooking up and getting married in real life. kinda expected that from a bigger game like WoW, but not a small niche game like this
>to this day I'm still online friends with one of my guild mates and we play vidya every other week
Anyone else played this game? Tell me I'm not the only one who thought this weird game was something really autistically special.

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I'm still mad

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>>376881134

>tfw you never truly got in on the MMO craze
where do I even start

>>376880026
this sounds interesting, should I download the game from steam or somewhere else?

>>376887615
Despite what people say, small niche population are always better than WoW tier crowd because they have an community. People that care about large population number fail to realize that those players tend to actively IGNORE other players and only came to it because it was popular and leave to the newest, shiniest mmo.