Apologize

I'm sorry I got tricked by shills into paying 60 dollars for you.

Avoided the hype and finally bought it for 20 bux recently.

7.5/10 worth the price I paid

>>376880312
i love how 7/10 or 8/10 is the best way to trigger fags on /v/ when it comes to critically acclaimed/commonly liked games
people are doing the same shit with persona and botw, shitposting is evolving

>>376880379
Huh

>>376880379
What are you talking about, it's been like this for years.
Were you here when Twilight Princess got 8.8?
People would not stop bullying Nintendo fanboys over it.

snapmap was a dissapointment, arcade mode is pretty cool though

>>376878954
Pretty good game. Stands out as being "FANTASTIC" because of all the other garbage being shat out.

>>376878954
I'm sorry
choo ~<3

pirated it, pretty good 8/10
won't buy it though.

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>>376878954
IM SORRY!!!!! GOD DAMMIT I WOULD KILL MYSELF IF IT MEANT YOU FORGAVE ME BUT THEN I COULDN"T PLAY DOOM SO I MUST BE GREEDY THIS ONCE PLEASE FORGIVE ME!!!!!

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>>376883025
PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR MY LUST BETHESDAD I LOVE YOUR GAMES

>>376878954
I still don't like it

I liked it, but the multiplayer is ass and there's a lot of casual bullshit going on. it's still a very fun and fairly fast past shooter though. Snapmap is pretty great too. It has generated a lot of good content.
I just wish they hadn't gone with fucking Denuvo, which makes the game pretty much impossible to mod.

>>376878954
bought it for 12 dollars worth

>>376878954
does the game actually get good after the parts from the demo

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>>376884002
If you didn't like the demo you probably won't like the game. I found it fun, but it irks me that the formula through the entire game is to simply get the player to enter an arena before locking the doors and spawning a bunch of monsters. There are areas where they shake it up a bit. Hell is a bit more open than the Mars segment. There's also a sort of platforming segment where you have to climb a tower while introducing demons the delectable flavors of plasma and hot lead.

Wolf NWO was better, the constant repetitive finisher animations or whatever its called got old quick.

Not saying it's a bad game or anything.
It's good, better than probably anyone thought it would be.

Wolf NWO sequel WHEN?

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typically I don't describe games as repetitive, but the campaign is repetitive. the story and atmosphere were kind of just a joke and the arena lockdowns always overstayed their welcome. weapon balance was trash and upgrades were overpowered. graphics/art is the best I've ever seen in any game (although hell was lame). soundtrack is a mixed bag, some tracks just drone on and on.

all of the snapmap content I played was trash. I was working on an arena shooter deathmatch map but stopped because the snapmap lobbies are a ghost town and so I probably wouldn't be able to get people to play it.

the multiplayer was the component that I got most of my playtime from. it was a solid mix of modern with arena style. spawning in an immediately combat effective state with the loadouts definitely simplified gameplay compared with past id games, but map control was still an element. admittedly it was more biased towards mechanical skill than I would like (which was a problem since dodging is pretty ineffective in this game with the poor accel on player movement), with the unbalanced weapon combos that the devs never nerfed, but it depended on the modes you played. if you avoided deathmatch and team deathmatch, and instead played soul harvest, warpath, and clan arena, you were playing the best part of the MP with the most depth. the engine and netcode felt smooth and precise. hack modules were bullshit though. if I was in charge I would have just made it 4v4, spawned everyone with pistol, and have six core weapons placed on the map. and fuck the demon rune

>>376884658
Eh TNO got boring to me, never finished it. Doom 4 was a blast from start to finish. And it's nice that ID Tech 6 is superb.

>>376884668
>The story was a joke

No fucking kidding. It was built up that way.

>>376879057
End thyself promptly.

>>376878954
I sold a knife in cs go and bought doom and dark souls 3. I should have kept my knife

Played the demo, shit was meh. The guns feel like they have no impact at all, the finishers don't help either.

But why did it flopped tho? I can see through Willits lies when he say ""W-we s-satisfied with sales"

>>376885367
did it really flop?

It's a good game but not a good DOOM game, as tired as that phrase is it's true. The mod support is awful and it abandoned a lot of old DOOMs design decisions especially when it came to map design. They really shot themselves in the foot, with proper mod support and easier content creation they could have made a smash hit, the combat is there it's just stuck in a shitty campaign.

>>376885367
Did it flop?

I thought it did well enough to profit.

I'm sorry you gave everyone serious caution with early gameplay trailers.

>>376885539
>The original Doom was easily modded day one
You wanna know how I know you weren't old enough to remember 1993?

I enjoyed it. Fun nobrain shooter. Good to unwind from work with.

>>376885557
>>376885523
I used my Google-fu and found that they've sold about 3.6 million total, but the sales trickled in pretty slowly. In their release month they only got 400k sales.

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>>376878954
>Press x to watch cutscene of your character doing shit

I-i-i-i-I'm definately not s-s-s-sad to see what happened to my f-f-f-f-favorite franchise I *inhales wet snot dripping down my face* love so very much turn into a modern AAA title.

DEMONIC PRESENCE AT UNSAFE LEVELS LOCKDOWN IN EFFECT
DEMONIC PRESENCE AT UNSAFE LEVELS LOCKDOWN IN EFFECT
DEMONIC PRESENCE AT UNSAFE LEVELS LOCKDOWN IN EFFECT

>>376880312
Found a copy for $16 AUD.
I guess that translates to about 12 US.
I hope it's worth it. Been waiting for 2 days to download it.

>>376885732
>Implying Glory kills are needed and aren't a crutch to scrubs

Doing a no GK Nightmare run was fun.

>>376878954
I can punch a demon's head out of its ass so I was happy.

Its not perfect, but it does well enough and follows in the spirit of things. Kinda like Parasite, not perfect, but you can throw a tank at a helicopter while running up a building...kinda makes the nitpicks not matter.

>>376885798
I got a physical copy off ebay to try and dodge the download time
But opened up the case, just a single DVD. Still had to download 60 gigs. Dickish IMO

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>>376885882
>artificial difficulty: the post

Why don't you just fuck off back to "The Last of Us" thread over in /vg/ and let the big boys talk about video games, capiche?

>>376878954
For what? It's a shitty game nobody talks about anymore except to make another bait/shill thread here. It's dead, son.

Fuck no it's a terrible game

>>376885882
>tfw using all the glory kill runes I can fit
Don't even care, it doesn't stop being satisfying to me, plus it's free armor.

>>376885931
I've noticed that Bethseda published games have massively bloated downloads.
Fucking repacks are about half as big most of the times.

>>376884779
Not all jokes are good. "The game doesn't take itself seriously" is not a valid defense when quality of its presentation is being criticized.

>>376885635
They created DOOM as a .wad package for that specific purpose, and yes the modding community did not explode from day one but it's clear id gave a shit from day one. Why would they have to start over from scratch with the new DOOM? They had everything they needed to create modding tools and address the past but they willingly ignored it and gave us a shitty snap map. They're a fucking AAA company not the old id, they didn't release the game like they did out of incompetence or lack of resources, stop being an apologist and at least own up to agreeing with their deliberate design decisions instead of pretending they care.

>>376880379
>7/10 or 8/10
>bad
nigger

I fucking love how the general opinion on /v/ evolves

>First announcement
massive pessimism
>closer to release
somewhat optimistic
>Release
overall enjoyment
>1 year later
>massive disappointment

>>376886034
I'll accept that the day you accept that the only thing keeping this from being a good game is the 4 letter word occupying the cover

>>376886054
Because shills and marketers fucked off and stopped gushing about how amazing the game is and how should everyone pay thousands just to get it to all their friends, family members and facebook acquaintances?

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>>376886130
I literally said, "It's a good game but not a good DOOM game" in my first post, jackass

>Game
>a couple games later
>GAME
When will companies stop doing this shit? It's like "never played the first game? well forget about that old shit, this one's the real deal"

>>376885957
It is a fucking crutch and gets you killed more times it saves you on any difficulty higher than Hurt me Plenty.

You get ten health for a GK? Well Imps do 20 damage with fireballs. Oh you get 30 from critical glory kills? Say hi to that charged possesed soldier doing 40.

>>376884371
Best fucking level in the game. Especially on the hardest difficulty it becomes a blast

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>play MP on a whim
>notice most if not all people only using that particle rifle thing or the battle rifle
It's literally Halo DMR all over again.

>>376886334
>on any difficulty higher than Hurt me Plenty
bullshit, on UV that shit's easy as fuck to pull off

>>376886054
>general opinion on /v/
I think you mean bandwagoning redditors

>>376886445
*burst rifle

>>376886334
Hey Bethesda Intern #02201023044, you're not on the clock right now. There's no need to defend this walking abortion right now.

Have it installed, still haven't booted it up yet. Too busy with Quake

>>376886445
I assume you mean the three round burst Burst Rifle? Which is basically the same thing yeah. It's top tier mid range weapon for sure, very rewarding to good tracking, and has good utility for long range at the same time. total ass kicker in clan arena if you pair it with combat shotgun

>>376886054
Seems about right, but to be fair for Doom early previous looked horrible, slow, and clunky without the speed and brutality of Doom.

Then the beta was a weird kinda meh multiplayer.

Why they didn't show off the singleplayer or just release the first level to play I have no idea. I would have day one bought it then rather than waiting for a sale. And I do feel a bit sad later because of their design choices I don't know if we'll see the wonderful modding of the past Doom games, but I think it unlikely.

Game is still fucking awesome though. Some say its because its compared to the crap around it, but there have been a few titles here and there without the modern tropes that did okay, but nothing at this level. Would have preferred a more metal sound track though.

>>376886562
There are alot of things to complain about (MP, Snapmap, some weapon upgrades being shit, Some areas being too arena friendly) but it is not an abomination. I always feel that /v/ can't differentiate between shit, bad, average, good, great and perfect, like most fucking reviewers people complain about. There is a range a game can sit in and just because it has bad points doesn't mean it automatically sits at the shit end.

It's a solid 7/10 from me anyway. If they fixed some things it would be better.

>>376886704
I might give it a whirl but I always gravitate towards the memeier weapons so I'm rocking my Plasma Rifle like a madman.

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>>376886770
>>376886770
I'd rather be out getting tail at the bar rather than play a 7/10 videogame any day of the week brother.

I give it an 8/10 because it did get fairly repetitive with the arena focus. Playing on nightmare is really the only way to go and keep it exciting. The game got really good when upgrades allowed for faster movement after glory kills. The problem i have is that normal speed feels like mollases in comparison, and the boss fights are underwhelming.

Spent 15 on it and went in with low expectations but was pleasetly suprised.

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>>376886973
>he doesn't like playing mediocre or only just above average games
Why even play games or come to this board? Mediocre games have a place and can still be enjoyable and have good ideas going for them.

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>>376878954
>got it for free with my gpu
>couldn't bring myself to get past the second area
I should have just sold the key

>>376887079
The boss fights were honestly the best I played in a FPS.
But I haven't played every FPS, obviously. Were there any FPSes with better boss fights? From what I've played they seem like a weak point of the genre.

it looks pretty, animations are all "AAA" quality and runs well compared to it's competition but everything on the actual gameplay side is a monumental fuck up, It's like they haven't learnt anything from 20+ years of shootan design
id is fucking dead as far as i'm concerned

>>376886334
>It is a fucking crutch
>and gets you killed more times it saves you
u wot m8

>>376887728
The actual combat is good though. The problem lies in the design of certain levels.

>>376887907
>The actual combat is good though
It's not, It's just a big mess

>>376888076
How so?

Every enemy and weapon has a role, there is a lot of room to move about, it is frantic because of the enemies chasing you down and lack of health regen. Not to mention weapons feel punchy except for the Rocket Launcher and Pistol.

The problem lies in the levels being designed in such a way that 90% of encounters are in forced arenas.

>>376885539
They've given mod tools for RAGE, and no one ever used them. I'm not convinced it would have been much different for this game.

>>376888469
Also the guy to blame for the lack of mod tools is Carmack.

He designed the engine and said it was "too hard to mod".

>>376878954
Bought it as a lifetime Doom fan. It's good for what it's supposed to be. It's just a shoot game.

>>376888076
Out of everything you can criticize about D44M, I'm kind of doubtful on why you would criticize its basic gunplay, which is game's biggest strength by a huge margin.

It's not exactly the same as Doom 2, I hate it. Unless everyone else hates it, in which case I always loved it while all you normalfags overlooked it.

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>>376885765
>mfw

>>376884658
this year

>>376886973
You seem to have elected to post on /v/ instead of cruising for a fresh case of the clap from some slag but okay.

Best single player FPS I've seen in a long damn time, but by all means point out a few I can try that are better that aren't running on Quake or Dooms engine their so old. Not that the old ones are bad just played them all.

>>376885539
>as tired as that phrase is
It's only tired because some shitposter makes a thread with a funny reaction picture every other day
It's a perfectly valid phrase

>>376886054
You forgot a step between release and 1 year later
>contrarianism kicks in due to overwhelming popularity

>>376878954
you will never see me apologise, there are only two games that refused to run on my computer, no mans sky and Nu Doom.

i take that as a sign from the refund gods

>tfw relentless shitposters managed to shift the opinion over the board through hundreds of 'what went wrong' threads
I'm almost impressed
But not really because this board is populated by some of dumbest people

>>376890426
Keep thinking that

>>376890426
those threads just encourage discussion and may bring out people who otherwise were silent about their opinion

>>376891049
It's biased and will subsconsciously make people believe that there is something wrong with the gaem
With enough repetition it'll shift opinions, especially of people who haven't played it yet
t. meme expert

this or wolfenstein? both are $20 on the ps store

>>376891192
>make people believe that there is something wrong with the gaem
I hope I'm being baited, I played it around release and was thoroughly annoyed by the lockdown sequence shit

>>376891192
well I haven't really seen any more WWW threads than I have seen "apologize" and "what went right" threads for this game

>>376891301
both

>>376891558
pick one
which one has better gameplay
i want to shoot

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>>376879057
This famalam.
Not even as good as a WAD for normal Doom.
NOT
EVEN
ONE
GOD
DAMN
MONSTER
CLOSET

Guns are neat though.

>>376878954
>all dlc is multiplayer
>every dlc is 15 euro dollars

fuck you bethesda

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>>376891882
Wolf throws more enemies your way but level design from what I played was total corridor bullshit and god damn german bunkers (the shittiest level design you could ask for. No matter how historically accurate it may be)
Also hitscan enemies are shit on the higher difficulties.

Just download doom and some wads. Better bang for no bucks.

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>>376878954
I will not apologize for art.

>>376878954
yeah Doom you fucking piece of mediocrity
apologize for being so mindnumbing average that people will forget you in 10 years

>>376878954
>Lasts 8 hours

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>>376878954
People will say it's a good game, just not a good Doom game and they're probably right.Because there's only two Doom games; Doom 1 and Doom 2 and they're so alike no one knows what a good, modern Doom game would be moving forward.

I think it's an excellent game and I'm only sorry it had wasted development on a multiplayer no one cared about instead of an expansion. I hope New Colossus can learn from it.

>>376878954
Sorry

>itt contrarian faggots
shitload of weapons
arena killbox type gameplay formula
big levels with secrets and possibility for mobility
you go moderately fast, though still fast
guns feel meaty and solid
no ironsights
bosses
runs and looks great on toasters and consoles, looks godly on decent pc

it is great
The only gripe is somewhat limited enemy count simultaneously on screen and dub stepy notes in soundtrack. No shooter in recent memory was this fun.

>>376878954
>Mediocre shooter
>Forced arena sections
>"Press F to win!"
>Pseudo-RPG gun leveling faggotry
>Pseudo-RPG skill & perks faggotry
>Hell was such a letdown
>Running at sanic speeds
>Mantling in a fucking DOOM game
>Weapons were lame
>Shit soundtrack

I wasn't born in 1996 or after so that's probably a large reason why I thought this game was shit.

>>376878954
>Multiplayer achievements
I do apologize that my inexcusable autism means you'll never make it out of the bottom of the backlog.

>>376895546
arena gameplay wouldn't be bad at all by itself, if they are challenging, and cleverly designed regarding resource management... which I don't think it's the case for DooM: "Press this button to become invulnerable for a few moments and refill your health and ammo and instakill one enemy"

>>376883209
what is this beautiful game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm85kM1K3Hg

Using DOOM's gunplay with the classic maps is really fun. Then again, I really enjoyed DOOM so I guess it's subjective.

>>376895817
Pretty much my feelings. nu-DOOM was basically an inferior Serious Sam, and that's saying something.

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>mfw argent combat starts playing
The games great, and I say that as an early Doomsayer prior to release.
Hell still looks like vomit though, and not in an enjoyable way.

>>376887579
FPS's very rarely have boss fights, and even rarer have good ones.

Doom is probably the single best example I can think of, Spider Mastermind was actually a great fight with a bunch of mechanics. Cyber Demon was pretty cool, Hellguards were lame but not unenjoyable.

Bordeelands has some decent bosses, but I can't think of any other games that are linear "pure shooters" like Doom. I praise them for the effort, most games have either no bosses (Rage's ending) or shitty puzzle/QuickTime things.

>>376891192
Yeah but there's nothing wrong with thousands of shills regurgitating the same threads every 30 minutes to con people into buying shit games

>>376890179
I'm sorry but what's your fucking point

why shouldn't it be compared to past games or even recent DOOM wads

you are a retard... I didn't play the new doom wads but your reasoning is fucking stupid

>>376880379
That's not shitposting faggot

Not everyone rate good games with 9.5

Dark souls is one of my fav from last gen and I won't give it more then 7.5

>>376891882
Doom.

It isn't perfect but damn it satisfys the "I just want to fucking shoot something" itch. Wolfenstien has stealth, and lengthy story segments. It's good, but it's no doom. You have minimal story, and just blast your way through 8-10 hours of Demons. Guns feel better and there's more enemy variety.

>>376879057
I've played it for 60 dollars worth. You just don't have huge guts.

>>376878954
I apologize but in my defense the demo was ultra shitty. The first two levels of that game were garbage and the rest of the game was pretty good. Next time maybe put your best foot forward.

>>376893227
>I hope New Colossus can learn from it.

Machine already learned from the mistakes of New Order and made Old Blood much better than the base game.

>>376878954
I apologize for nothing, I've always loved you and always will.
> please do Doom 5

>>376896986
Yeah the first level isn't great. Mostly because of the tiny weapon and enemy variety (which is to be expected in a tutorial I guess).

Demo should have been Foundry, which is what they used to reveal the game at e3. You have more enemy types, more weapons and the game flowing properally.

>>376886034
doom 1 and 2 tools do not translate to doom 2016 tools, at all
any game with megatextures is very mod unfriendly
actually any AAA game at all is very mod unfriendly from the point of adding new enemies/levels/artwork because making artwork for these games is extremely demanding, you're not just drawing a new sprite or throwing down some lines
so yeah Doom 2016s mod tools are awful, but it wouldn't matter if they were good anyway seeing modding AAA games is pretty much limited to gameplay tweaks that require new art, you're not going to see a modding scene like the original Doom

Played the demo, wasn't impressed.
Might pay a tenner or so for it.

I just bought it on sale for 19$, pretty good so far.

Loving the vulkan support and the 130+ fps on ultra

>>376897820
id was stupid for putting the worst level of the game in the demo. That's like having Shores of Hell be the shareware episode.

>>376886054
It was exactly opposite for me

>>376886864
I play for an hour and get bored every time, but at least I always get k/d >6

I'm still last in the scoreboard every time because everyone else dies about a hundred times and I actually try to survive like some CS fag

>>376896726
My point is to say its stupid to say its average because of CoD and shit. Its a damn good game and fits far better with Doom 1 and 2 then 3 did.

And you are pants on head retarded if you think it doesn't stack up to most Doom mods out there. I played it back to back with 1 and 2 and it hits all the right points.

Its fast, its violent, its brutal, and its over the top punch satan in the dick. Half the shit people bitch about that isn't Doom enough is stuff taken from Quake, because yea the fucker is actually 3D now. Its not the revolution that was Doom 1 only because the genre is well trodden ground now.

I mean god damn you are sand pounding stupid. Please get fixed at your local vet.

>>376897905
>66.4GB
This is suffering, it'll have to wait until tomorrow.

Tried it a bit at a friends place on PS4 for a few minutes, was alright liked how the monsters maneuvered jumping over columns and what not.
I disliked the forced cutscenes however. The stock shotgun and space laser pseew pseew sounded puny as hell, even fucking DOS doom had meatier sounding pistol and shotgun sound effects.
Takedowns seemed nice at first glance but they take fair amount of time and are repetitive, guess they are optional unless conserving ammo is important later on or at higher difficulties.

It is on sale for PC so I figured why not, will barely be able to play it at 4K resolution on a 980 unless I knock some settings down. Vega when?