MMO Gameplay

everquest or ultima online

It's definitely between Maplestory or EVE.

>>376865661
>>376865661
>Maplestory

I would play maplestory if they ever optimized the game and cleaned up the HUD, especially all that shit on the left of the screen.

>>376865423
The one everyone but you plays.

WoW for PvE, GW for PvP

Final Fantasy 11

>>376865423
TERA, anyone who says anything else is lying or just misinformed.

>>376867651
TERA is fun for about 50 hours, then it gets old. That kind of combat just doesn't work for a game you're going to have to put thousands of hours into.

>>376866687
I will say that GW2 pvp hits a spot I never thought was possible in a long time.

>>376865423

The one you play with friends.

>>376868123
>standing still and bashing your hotbar is somehow better
Is this bait

>>376865423
neverwinter

>>376867651 (You)

>>376868231
>I will say that GW2 pvp hits a spot
Is it hitting your prostate you fucking fag. PvP is an unwatchable spamfest.

>>376868123
>>376868571
give me a mmo with a more responisive action combat system

>>376868681 (You)

>>376868494
compared to tera's just mashing space bar?

>>376868747
okay you're a retard with no arguement
thanks
>>376868789
>mash spacebar
>do terribly because thats the worse way to deal damage

>>376868681
darkfall

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I think we all pretty much agree that Guild Wars 1 can not be beat.

>>376868654
who cares about the watching part. the point was, it was fun

>>376868865
>arguement
(You)

>>376868884
Countless nights spent doing uw runs with either my necro or my monk. Goddamn I loved that game.

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>>376868938

your favorite game :3

>>376868884
GW1 was amazing. I think I may never experience or enjoy another MMO like it again.

>>376869207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9WgtlgGAgs

>>376868494
>standing still

You're going to die if you stand still, you fucking moron. I'd rather doing dances around raid mechanics and have simple combat than have complicated combat and simple mechanics.

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>>376868880
>darkfall

>>376865423
Destiny.

>>376865423
Of all the MMOs I've played, ranked best to worst:
>CoP FFXI
>Vanilla EverQuest
>Vanilla WoW
>Asherons Call
>ToAU ffxi
>BC WoW
>Age of Conan
>Warhammer online
>Rift
>Terra
>project Gorgon
>Aion
>Runes of Magic
>Ultima Online
>Neverwinter
>....whatever is left.... I can't remember anything else at the moment

Aion

>>376865423

Vindictus
DDO
BDO

Too bad everything else is shite.

>>376865423
unironically ESO

>>376865423
not BDO

oh boy can't wait to grind sausans to get more money and better gear to grind sausans faster to get more money for better gear to grind pirates and sausans, ad infinitum
at least with themepark MMOs you can pretend that your dumb gear treadmill has meaning, BDO has literally nothing going for it

why do you need full TET, or PEN or anything? node wars?

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>>376865423
I liked the combat in Tera and BnS. Keeps me awake compared to tab-target and rotation away combat.
Too bad both hare korean grinding f2p p2w shit.
Tera still having fps issues because the hud is run in flash and somehow optimization has gotton worse over time which i have no idea how that happens or maybe i'm going crazy.
BnS is kill cause of p2w and even worse balance issues in pvp and pve scene is non existant.
Seriously, who thought making an mmo on unreal engine was a good idea?

Unironically, Wildstar

Mabinogi used to have the best gameplay; It had a unique combat system designed around the limitations of a networked game that could be played by people across the world, and needed to have fast paced, strategic combat while also taking latency into account.

They never updated the enemy AI past the most basic form released with the game's launch, though, which made the game trivial for the PVE players who learned how to play, and if you didn't want to put in the effort the game was actually really difficult, so they eventually revamped the combat system by removing any strategy and difficulty and making it more latency dependent, AKA undoing everything that the original combat system was designed for.

15 years later, they still haven't updated the enemy AI.

SMT: Imagine was the only other game that attempted to copy this system, and managed to pull an interesting spin on it that had you controlling two characters at once, but the rest of the game was so bad they had to shut it down.

I patiently await another company to try out Devcat's original design.

>>376872136
Mabinogi's always been billed as a "fantasy life" sim. From the early days, combat has never really been the biggest focus.

The combat is fun, but god damn it's really unbalanced. Before they actually gave a shit to fix it, defense meant fuck all. Either enemies would one shot you, or you'd one shot them. It really depended on how much money you spent to rebirth and increase your skills. You absolutely needed to invest in life skills to increase your stats, which meant spending more money.

The problem with the updates now is that stats are in overabundance. Rebirthing is free, AP is given out like candy, and there are very few restrictions when it comes to skills. Power levels are off the god damn charts, pet spam is a legitimate and common strategy, and there are too many skills that monsters simply can't react to because of poor AI programming (as you mentioned). The devs started giving each monster some type of super armor as a "solution" but it just really drags the game down. Or they just spawn in large groups.

IMO, the game peaked when fighter launched, even though it was buggy as fuck.

>>376865423
any that aren't entirely ability based

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>>376865423
GW2 until the XIV expansion comes out
>tfw stuck on what to do besides Fractals because HoT is hectic and PVP/WVW are dead

>>376868231

GW2 organized rvr was amazing.

>>376872136
>SMT: Imagine was the only other game that attempted to copy this system, and managed to pull an interesting spin on it that had you controlling two characters at once, but the rest of the game was so bad they had to shut it down.
Problem with Imagine was that a lot of later content was reliant on the grindy-as-fuck Digitalize and P2W Intense Breaks along with not much solo-Lv90 content outside of Destiny and events. Imagine was already grindy as far as trying to get good gear and expertise for your DB and doing Wildcats to strengthen and rebirth your demons and eventually Mitama Fusing them.

>Mortal Online
if you say otherwise you are casul trash