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What are some more game series that started strong and continued

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What are some more game series that started strong and continued improving?
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>>376859209
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>pikmin 2
>improving
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>>376859901
>he doesn't like Pikmin 2
excuse me
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>>376859901
Nice bait
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>>376859901
Pikmin 2 was the best of the series.
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>>376859209
Sonic
Spyro
Crash Bandicoot
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>Pikmin 3
>not a massive downgrade
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>>376862957
>Sonic
>Spyro

My nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ap-fm75Grk
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>>376859209
>pikmin
>improving
Worthless bait.
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>>376859209
I can't think of a single one. All series eventually have a bad game so they can't keep improving. 2 games also isnt much of a series if you're counting shit like that.
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>>376862957
>Spyro
Game series that started off strong, improved, and then fucking jumped off a cliff
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>>376861515
pikmin 2 dungeons are annoying
pikmin 3 is the best
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GTA
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>>376859901
>Disliking arguably the greatest game yet
Probably just bait, but fuck it.

>Pikmin no longer trip ever 5 seconds
>Pikmin AI is noticeably better
>Camera is better
>A lot less glitchy
>No FPS drops
>Co-op mode

These are all things Pikmin 2 has over the first game.
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Gravity Rush
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>>376863532
Pikmin 2 is better, the dungeons are neat. Pikmin 3 is fantastic but the Formidable Oak is a mess.
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>>376863591
>5 is better than all the rest
I would agree with you if 5 didn't exist
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Bayonetta 1 was better than 2.
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Bayonetta 1 > Bayonetta 2

Pikmin 2 > 1 > 3
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>>376862957
>Sonic
yeah, 2 and 3 improved, then it dropped into hell
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>>376863532
the dungeons were the best part of the game you colossal faggot
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>>376863751
I thought 4 was the one people considered weak.
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EA Buried Titanfall 2.
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Every SMT and Persona game seems to be better than the last
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>>376862957

>Spyro
>Crash Bandicoot

Both of those went to shit after the original developers lost the rights to them, especially Spyro. There hasn't been a great Spyro game since Spyro 3.
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>>376859209
Lol
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>>376861458
moot?
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>form your own dev team with your own hopes and dreams
>make a CoD clone that enjoys a decent degree of success

>make a sequel while being open to change, improve greatly on the first game in every way, and include an impressively polished single player campaign as the cherry on top, and refuse to charge for DLC
>your publisher is butthurt that you don't include a season pass and they release your game in the same weekend as their flagship franchise (Battlefield)
>host a free weekend for your game so it gets attention
>Battlefield has a free weekend at the same time

Fuck EA, if you ever needed any evidence that they haven't changed since receiving 2 golden poos, that's it.
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>>376863131
yeah, I sure do love crawling around dungeons with no fucking level design and having the game be wholly broken by one pikmin type
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>>376864632
shit, meant to reply to
>>376864219
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>>376864514
Who the heck is moot?
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>>376864361
A Hero's Tail wasn't great, but it was pretty decent and the last true Spyro game.
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>>376864361
>Spyro will probably never have another good game
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>>376864632
EA thought consumers would buy both.
They didn't.
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Wario Land
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>>376864161
5 was near perfect before trevor and in most parts where trevor wasn't involved.
Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to 4 yet, but from everyone that I've talked to it's one of their favorite games.
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>>376859209
Did they nerf the G2 and phase shift yet
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>>376864632
EA wasn't to blame for the launch window of TF2, that was up to Respawn. And fuck them for abandoning Xbox just to give Playstation the superior version over xbox one owners. If they want to go for jewery, I hope they have fun being the Star Wars shovelware creators in the future.
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>>376864357
>Apocalypse
>Persona 4
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>>376864967
>Wario Land
Ehh, I dunno.
The first game was a decent improvement over SML2 in most respects but controlled really weirdly. Virtual Boy Wario Land was an improvement over the first game, but then WL2 was totally different. Then WL3 was kind of worse but I guess people consider that arguable, then WL4 came out and did half the same things as WL2 and WL3 but clowned them both, and then Shake It came out and sort of did WL4 again but totally removed any traces of 2 and 3.
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>>376864735
Me
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>>376863192
>>376863131
>Pikmin 3
>bad
I hate NeoGA/v/
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>>376865118
>EA wasn't to blame for the launch window of TF2, that was up to Respawn.

Are you sure about that? Do you have a source? Because this indicates to me that Respawn didn't have control over their release date:

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/10/27/respawn-titanfall-2-release-date-locked-long-time-ago-no-changing/#/slide/1
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Dark Souls
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>>376865450
yeah but anon
>muh piklopedia

don't you know charming writing is more important than good level design and core mechanics that actually get used
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Mass Effect
Dark Souls
Paper Mario
Pokemon
Silent Hill
>/v/ will deny this
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>>376864357
>P4 better than P3
>IV better than Nocturne or SJ
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>>376865880
Not him but
SJ > Nocturne
And Deep SJ will soon be the newest entry.

I agree with you with that Persona 3 is the best Persona though.
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>>376865463
What your source indicates is that neither EA or Respawn wishes to announce who decided on the release date.

The link below shows that Zampella chose the window for Titanfall 2 and that he was aware he was going up against Battlefield 2.

http://www.glixel.com/interviews/qa-titanfall-2-creator-on-what-makes-a-great-shooter-w450709

>>On top of that, Titanfall 2 was released right after Battlefield 1, a historical military shooter, which is a genre you helped pioneer.
>If the question was, "Would I rather have this window to myself?" Well, of course. I'm not foolish. I'm not foolish that way, anyway. In other ways, probably.

>>But you knew who you were going up against when you chose this window.
>Yes. The exact timing, we didn't know.
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>>376866532

That doesn't indicate that Respawn had any control over their release date at all.

>>>On top of that, Titanfall 2 was released right after Battlefield 1, a historical military shooter, which is a genre you helped pioneer.
>>If the question was, "Would I rather have this window to myself?" Well, of course. I'm not foolish. I'm not foolish that way, anyway. In other ways, probably.
If anything, this indicates that Respawn had no control over it. They would have preferred another time.

>>>But you knew who you were going up against when you chose this window.
>>Yes. The exact timing, we didn't know.
All this tells you and me is that EA told them their release date would be competing with Battlefield's, not that Respawn chose a release date which competed with Battlefield's.

Furthermore, this:

>Do you think you're getting enough support from Electronic Arts? Respawn owns Titanfall, while EA owns Battlefield. You once suggested you were concerned that publishers would put more of their muscle behind the games they own.
>It's always a concern. That's what I'll say. Especially when you have two games on top of each other.

Tells us further that Respawn didn't want simultaneous release dates.
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>>376865690
>Mass Effect
Only if you don't count Andromeda then
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>>376865880
P3 fucking sucks as a game and I don't get why people have so much nostalgia for it.
The end game months are boring as fuck, there's zero urgency to dungeons, it has the WORST dungeons of the modern 3, Persona 3 lovers often pretend 5 has detached social links from the main story when that's exactly what happens with Yukari and Fuuka.
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>>376867015
>when you chose this window
>this window
>this refers to the competition with battlefield 1 in the last question
>zampella's answer is yes

Read, nigga.

>Tells us further that Respawn didn't want simultaneous release dates.
No, it literally doesn't. All it does state is that Zampella had a concern over the possibility EA would value its wholly owned IP, ie Battlefield, in marketing and promotion over Respawn's and suggests that Zampella would have been satisfied if both would have gotten equal support.
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Nier
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>>376867380
That sounds like the interviewer's error, especially since when it directly contradicts Zampella's previous answer
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>>376867251
P3 sucks as a game just like P4, but it's the better VN
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>>376867571
Again, it literally doesn't. His previous answer indicates he wanted the Q4 release window despite the presence of Battlefield 1's release in the same window, though he would have prefered Battlefield 1 not in that window, but what is important is that Q4 release window.

EA might be the devil incarnate, but they know how to spread their titles to maximize their revenue, especially regarding internal competition when they have full control. Look at Battlefield and the now dead Medal of Honor.

>Battlefield Bad Company 2: march 2010
>Medal of Honor: october 2010
>Battlefield 3: 2011
>Medal of Honor Warfighter: 2012
>Battlefield 4: 2013

Everything indicates that this was a huge mistake by Respawn and Zampella and whether it was hubris of their past success with Allied Assault and the Cod series, whether it was them hoping they could pull a Destiny and get success alongside the other big brand, or whether it was simply confidence in the quality of their game finding a big enough audience, at the end of the day, it was their fuck up.
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>Bayonetta 2
>improvement

Even Titanfall 2 isn't a full improvement with its lower TTK and less customization, but I personally think the new titans are superior in every way. Considering players are supposed to feel a "bond" with their titan, I never liked the first game chasis. They all looked too samey and uninspired.

Hopefully 3 meets a middle ground where the Titans remain as unique as they are in 2 but with more customization options like 1.
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>>376859209
>Titanfall
>not codshit
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>>376868967
It's a perfect union of modern twitch shooters with advanced movement techniques of older shooters. There's really nothing like it.
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>>376865532
>Dark Souls
I enjoyed 2 but it wasn't better than 1 or 3 at all.
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>>376868967
>csbabies that will perpetually hate Call of Duty because it has always had a much higher skill ceiling than CS
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>>376859209
Killer Instinct
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>>376865690
>Paper Mario
no
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>>376870364
To be fair, the first two games were pretty bad because Rare had no clue what they were doing, just cashing in on MK gory spectacle.

That said, the recent one proves that the west can make good fighting games.
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>>376859209
For what miyamoto's ambitions for the pikmin series was, yeah I suppose Pikmin 3 is the best but I dunno it's just not like 1 and 2, probably just my nostalgia for the series.
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>>376859209
How exactly does a sequel improve the series when it's just the same game again? A series that started strong and got better without simply a copy/paste job would be something along the lines of Resident Evil, or Ico, or Super Mario Bros.
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>>376871237
yeah, so pikmin
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>>376871072
>Killer Instinct 1 and 2
>Not among KOF 98 and Third Strike

Clearly, you played a different game.
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>>376859209
>Bayonetta 2
>Improvement

>Pikmin 3
>Improvement
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>>376871802
bayonetta 2's combat actually feels better than sex
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>>376865690
All wrong
>>376859209
Monster Hunter
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>>376872061
>Witch Time required to take down most enemies
>Enemies can break out juggle state and combos
>Umbran Climax completely fucks up the game balance and renders magic pretty irrelevant as it's the only thing worth spending it on
Bayo 2's combat is a 7/10 compared to the 10/10 from the first one.
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>>376859209
Left 4 Dead
Where's the fucking third one at
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>>376859209
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>>376865880
Being able to actually control party members makes 4 better than 3 by miles
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>>376871237
Super Mario Bros. 2 is just a romhack of the first game though
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>>376863131
>can move the people you aren't playing as
>not liking flying pikmin
>not thinking the challenge maps are the height of pikmin
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>>376865690
Simply intelligent
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>none of the games are ps exclusives
they're all shit
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>>376876354
Sony had their chance with Bayonetta 2 and blew it.
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