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Will Tita melt this asshole scientist's heart?
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Loli Tita was much hotter.
>no overalls with the strap of one shoulder
Garbage.
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>>376846620
Her jacket is still about to fall down, what more do you want?
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>>376846620
I miss the hat
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>>376846410
Here's a shitty translation.
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>>376847395
R-Ready for what?
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>>376846410
No, but Estelle will
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>>376847470
It would be my pleasure.
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>>376846410

I have not played any CS yet, why is Tita and Agate in Erebonia?
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>>376847470
Her examination.
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>>376847553
Supposedly agate and olivier are investigating the hamel incident
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>>376847553
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>>376847624
Why though? Nothing they uncover could be used against Osborne and exposing the deal by both countries to hide the whole deal under the rug will only create instability in both Liberl and Erebonia
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>>376847938
Who knows I'm just repeating what i heard others say falcom said
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>>376847553
Erebonia reversed engineer ancient robots to make modern ones. Tita of course wants in on that action.
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Just beat the last boss. He was fuckin' easy even on hard, though I guess Richard does that to everything. 22k crit Sakura Bloom to finish it off.

But wait, did Olivier propose to Schera or something? Is that what's being implied here?
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>>376848181
It's some political mumbo jumbo, although it's definitely a double entedre
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Why is Estelle so violent?
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>tfw in the finale and now have to hunt down the rest of the doors and watch them
This part is gonna suck
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>>376848349
The 400 battle door made me want to vomit.

That said, that door and door 14 which unlocked by completing it were two of my favorite doors.

>CB is now a L5 threat
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Is Agate pedo?
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>>376848546
Surpringly, no. Even if he hadsome minor romatic feelings for Tita after SC, he's still waiting until she's old enough and is never shown grooming her like a pedo would.

He's not completely in the clear though, using Tita as a replacement for his dead sister wasn't right of him
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>>376848471
>tfw you never ran from a battle
were at 370+ battles by the time I reached it
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>these things that cause petrify at every strike in the moon door
how scummy
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>>376848471
>tfw you realize the only reason Osbourne hasn't gone for Liberl just yet is that every high-ranking official in Erebonia is scared to death from Cassius.
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>>376848546
He's more of a big brother figure than anything else. People just like to go beyond that because it's the internet.
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Is Richard a good longtime/permanent party memeber? He seems like another Joshua. I liked having Zin as a tank but he's not very good at arts.
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Tita is aging like fine wine
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>>376850003
He's fantastic.
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>>376849446
The game isn't exactly subtle about shipping them either.
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>>376849186

>yfw you went into that and got stoned the fuck to death
>go in with everyone wearing a Mirage Ring and it's preddy easy

at least it encourages me to move accessories. like those little bastards who seemed to proc Deathblow on their attacks requiring I put skull pendants on if I wanted to run around levelling my lagging unused groupmates up
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>>376848316
She's a dumb bimbo and thats all she can, unlike Josette who is smart and kind and clever.
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>>376850003
Richard has the highest damage over time in the game.
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>>376850126
I think Tita has a crush on him, but not the other way around.
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>>376850126

Anal Ace is quick to recognize lewdness.
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>>376850003
He was a fucking broken "I WAS HOLDING BACK ALL THE TIME" piece of shit, those bosses become a joke because of him.
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>>376850248
higher than Agate?
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>>376850126
Cold steel also has a lot of people in game shipping Elise and Rean, and that is not going to happen.
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>>376850304
My interpretation is that Tita sees him as the big brother she never had, and Agate sees her as the little sister he so dearly misses.

That doesn't stop the other characters from poking fun at their relationship though.
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When I first started SC I really didn't like Kevin at all really so when I heard he was the protagonist of the 3rd I was a bit concerned. But by the end of SC he grew on me and now after the 3rd he's one of my favorite characters in the series
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>>376850401
Agate needs a support to heal him all the time, if you consider that then he wasn't that effective in terms of damage
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>5th plane Grimoires can change form
oh no
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>>376850304
Agate seemed pretty confused when Dan confronts him on their relationship on the ZCF roof, so I also think that's how it is.

>>376850401
That depends on how much defence the enemy has, I guess. For higher defence enemies high single-hit damage like Dragon Dive is probably superior to 4x Luminous Divider.
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>>376850437
>Tries to hook daughter up with orphan boy
>fails

Baron Schwarzer can't hold a cradle to Keikkaku master Cassius
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>>376846620
She's still a loli
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>>376850437
Elise is such a walking mass of cringe.
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>>376850559
I swear i saw this exact same response before.
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>>376850437
Now I understand why he felt left out. Look at the Schwarzers, all dressed like nobles while Rean is dressed like a hobo
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Chapter 2 end boss kicked me ass around more than i expected, doesn't help that i didn't have dark matter on Kevin who had the arts damage accessory due to my quartz combination.

Also young Ries feels like she's not cute at all.
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Will they cave in and make Laura the canon love interest, or will they continue to push Alisa?
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>>376851035
Which is a shame because her character design is really cute. I also wanted her to be an 8-leafer instead of another rapier noble.
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>>376851281
I hope it's Laura.

I can't stand Alisa. She's my least favorite Kiseki girl.
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>>376851281
Don't the japs love Alisa? Do they even care about Laura?
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>>376851107
A lot of people seemed to have that reaction with Kevin. I don't understand why though, I liked him from his first meeting with Estelle.

They also exaggerate his playboy act a lot, they actually think he's seriously a womanizer who wanted to seriously hook with Estelle, and couldn't tell it was just an act to lift the atmosphere, since most of his "playboy" scenes Estelle usually was gloomy or just needed someone to crack a joke at her
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I wish the new series could get rid of this stupid cringey harem choices in CS
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>>376851374
Laura and Phi were the most popular girls in the post CS2 polls.

Alisa was #1 after the first game, but I don't know why her popularity tanked
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>>376851281
>Laura
That's a funny way to spell Emma
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>>376851497
I thought he was cool at first because I wanted to see Joshua NTR'd
Now I know he's just a lame faker.
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>>376851497
When he's first introduced you think he's going to be a poochie with his anime design and cool attitude but as the plot progresses thats not true so you start to like him.
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>>376851568
First game Japs bought into the shitty tsundere design and voted with their dicks.

Second game, japs caught up with how shallow Alisa was and voted with their hearts instead.
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The music in Grimsel Fortress (in 3rd) is fucking PERFECT

I've not been able to find the song on Youtube, anyone got a link?
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>fie
>boring as fuck sleepy loli who whores herself in revealing clothes

Why people even like her? Worse than Alisa
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>>376851934
I really liked it too, easily my favorite in the game so far. Really blew me away.
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Literally taken to bed.
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>Finally start SC after being knocking P5 out of my backlog
>Already getting BTFO by Kurt tutorial boss
Does this game think I have 300 EP? My dps runs dry once he starts healing himself with mushrooms.
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>>376852089
She has a good sense of humor.
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>>376852549
What are you playing on hard?
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>>376852549
thanks to Kurt I dropped down to normal like the scrub I am
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>>376852549
Did you use the offensive item, thats very effective like 1000hp
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>>376851934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJxAX2yvSBQ

Is this it?
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>>376852089
Do not underestimate lolifags. Alisa is actually pretty good when compared to other Sen girls.
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>>376852743
yes
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>>376852658
Yes. I beat FC on Hard so naturally I went into this with the same setting.
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>>376852743
YES! thanks based anon!
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>>376852549
Rev up those meatballs
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my personal favorite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbj46qI0zDo
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>>376852729
I used it in the treasure monster fight, fug.
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>>376852837
in terms of difficulty SC > FC >>>>>>> 3rd
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>>376850003
Nigga Richard is literally a tier above every other character. Put him in a kitty suit, kitty slippers, and give him clock up EX and he'll be attacking 5 - 6 times in-between enemies' movements.

Just remember it's his crafts that make him stupid. They have almost no recovery time so when you use Luminous Divider he gets to go immediately again. Give him a Tiger Heart and a Gladiator Headband (or whatever the one is that increases CP recovery) and you'll cut down bosses like butter.
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>>376852837
Heh, you made the same mistake as me then.
Good luck, I barely made it through first two hours before dropping down to normal.
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>>376852925

SC is brutal. Loewe is the hardest boss in any JRPG I've ever played.
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>>376853056
glad to know i'm not the only one who did this hah
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>>376850003
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>>376851374
>>376851281
Japs love the blonde tsundere too much. Blonde hair means you're a foreigner and if there's one thing Japan loves it's their self-insert dominating and fucking a foreign girl. They see it as revenge for 2nukes.

I had an image that showed all the blonde girls that are in harems. It's honestly ridiculous. The Japanese are so incestuous in their creativity it's almost as bad as the Chinese.
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>>376851934
Check the BGM folder of the game. ED6333.ogg
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>>376853056
I can't do that it would totally damage my e-peen pride. I'm gunna see if I can grind some CP and S-craft nuke him when he's at low health.
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>>376853123
>ollie-boy not top tier
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Aside from the writers desperately trying to shove as many generic anime tropes and archetypes into the game, why dos Alisa even exist? You ca cut her out of the game and nothing changes.

Emma has the witch stuff, Laura is supposed to be to the Lance Maiden what Rean is to the king, Fie has the merc stuff. Alisa is useless as a character
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Just started SC on hard after finishing FC on impossible. What is with this fucking difficulty spike? 9k HP Jaeger Kurt was practically unbeatable with his insta-spells/crafts, HUGE knockback, and to add insult to injury he could heal spam for 1k HP. It'd be fine if I was able to kill those shining poms with 200% charge attacks but you know how much damage I was doing to them? Fucking 6. S I X. This is ridiculous.
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>>376853354

She does some tech stuff once or twice. She's like a shittier, larger Tita
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>>376852549
The prologue final boss is literally the hardest boss in the game besides the boss before the final one.

Make sure you save up ALL the puppets you pick up in chests throughout the tutorial, get ALL your gear out of the forest, and bake AS MANY cookies as you can to throw at him. Beat him down to about 40-30% then throw cookies at his face non-stop.

It's honestly stupid how hard he is but I got through it and felt so fucking satisfied. Trails on Normal difficulty is too boring and easy for me.
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>>376853306
Hard gets disappointingly easy after Chapter 2's optional boss. It's going to grind your dick until then though, have fun
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>>376853291
Oh damn, checked the floors from chatper 6 instead of the actual Grimsel location. ED6332.ogg
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>>376853415
Kurt is a giant piece of shit for a prologue boss, it's the only faulty part of SC. After you're done with him, nothing else will come as close to that level of challenge.

Try try, run to the back again the wall so that if he tries to push you don't get fucked, and you're not that far away so he spams his bullshit long range attack with 20% chance to insta kill, and then try to DPS him.
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>>376853415

SC is brutal
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>>376853539
>Keeping Estelle that far away

That's extremely fucking dangerous. He can pull out his "YOU'RE NEVER OUT OF MY RANGE!" bullshit insta death sword with super high damage.
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>>376853539
>besides the boss before the final one.
I beat him on my first try on NG hard, blind. Learn to orbment jesus christ
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>>376853337
He has to compete with best girl. Tough job.
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>>376846410

She'll soften his heart and harden his cock.
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>>376853731
>>376853539
Oh that's just the only image that I could fine of the Jaeger 3 fight. I completely agree. If I remember correctly I had Estelle and Anelace very close together, Estelle spamming heals while Anelace used her AT delay on the fucker.

If you're brave you can try to petal dance for some insane damage. The boss will start hitting ANelace hard though.
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>>376853123
Renne isnt high-tier just because her def and hp is sooooo low, have to baby-sit her so hard every fight.

Olivier is very mediocre because the whole game doesnt have top-tier RTS suit for male, which makes him very embarrassing desu, in fact Ries could be a better RTSer because of that
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>>376853123
>first game's legit final boss
>best party member
Who would've thought.
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>Playing through the shitty CS games again
>Talking to every single NPC after every big story progression
>Watching all optional stuff on youtube, like the dancing events
>Realize the Angelica is not a legit lesbian and that she and George have perhaps the best sublte romance I've seen in a JRPG in a long time

How did I not realize it sooner.
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>>376853943
it's a damn shame about Ries' lines, as she's the only character I believe who gets fucking ridiculous ATS stats on her weapons. The one I had going into the final dungeon had +200 ATS while Kloe's sword that I had to farm for only gave like +40.
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Is the treasure on the minimap when you go into full view supposed to be shifted like that?
It's very annoying.
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Isn't Richard also out of practice by the 3rd too? What a dam beast
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>>376854248
No, it's a widescreen bug.
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>>376853908
>Try to tank with Estelle while pelting him with fireballs from Anelace from a distance
>Somehow Anelace manages to get herself killed while Estelle gets healed back
>Finish him off with Estelle
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>>376854209
It's part of the charm of the Kiseki series, a lot of the NPCs have pretty cute/nice stories as you go along.

My favorite one in SC was Kitty and the general store owner in Rolent.

>TFW she gets the flower bouquet in the final chapter after a couple marry
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>>376854209
Oh no, Angelica is definitively Bi. Enjoys the pleasure of titties but can't resist the G.nome cock
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>>376850126
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>former xseed employee and programmer's roommate insulting people who criticize xseed on the 3rd steam forum and initiating actual flame wars that she derails threads with and keeps going for literally hours
legit cant make this shit up
glad i pirated 3rd
NISA <3 FALCOM
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>>376854234
oh yeah I remember that sword, she had very strong physical damage as well also Ries' blessing and crafts are so damn useful, put her with Richard together is literally fuckin cheating
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Will NISA steal CS3 and Crosbell from XSeed?
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Am i the only one who imagines the sound of an engine dying down when i use Analace's craft where she hits the enemy super fast then falls backwards and trembles in place?
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>>376854265
The game calls him "Divine Blade's Successor" for a reason. He is literally in the process of creating his own society. Ouroboros and The Church won't be shit compared to Richard's Secret Agent Service.
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>>376854627
They don't care about Crossbell, but CS3 isn't unlikely, and Calvard/next Kiseki sure as fuck will happen.
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>>376854352

>>376854439
You forgot to mention you met that couple while traveling around Liberl on the first game. You later meet them again in Crossbell, they have a baby and are expecting another one if I recall
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>>376854209
I don't know if it's sad or funny that NPCs and secondary characters are much better and generally feel they had much more love and care put into them then majority of class VII or the main story. Even if most of Erebonia arc was a forgone conclusion, they still could have did a far better job with certain aspects or answer more questions.
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>>376853123
>Anelace mid-tier
>mfw she carried my ass through mid game with that bullshitting sword
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>>376854850
This is the reason I'm excited for Cold Steel on PC even if everyone bitches about the main characters. I love the main characters in Sky, but it's the side characters and the world that I play the games for.
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>>376854765
That sounds cute as fuck. I forget who they are though. Are they the couple you first met in the prologue of FC? The one who keeps talking about wanting to confess to his future wife, does so and she finds him cute, and he proposes they travel together around Liberl?
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>>376854620
>former xseed employee
Who?
And yeah, Sarah's girlfriend has been doing that shit since SC released. Sometimes I feel like helping folks here and there, but steer clear of any discussion because of her.
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>>376854850
Secondary characters and NPCs have room to breathe instead of having cliches thrust on them.
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>>376854925
The problem with Anelace is that Richard exists.
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>>376853623
I managed to beat him with no K.Os by using petal dance and getting lucky. Fortunately his insta-kill didn't trigger once on me, but I did waste a turn trying to debuff him only to find out he's immune to everything. I'll be extremely glad if he really was the hardest boss in the game because I already regret playing on hard mode.
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Wait, Angelica and George have a thing? I remember getting a scene with Towa in CS2 where she talks about how happy George is about Angie being with them, and saying that she has them figured out, but are there any more scenes about them?
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>get richard
>his entire introductory speech is self-flagellation
wew.
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>>376854946
Yep, that's exactly them. The girl is called Ellie (with Lloyd the fisherman and Estelle's friend Tio, I never found Liberl's Randy...) can't remember what the guy is called
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On chapter 5 and what the fuck is this dream demon thing?
How the hell do I defeat it, it's impossible.
Does it even give you anything good?
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what does Joshua even says before screaming Phantom Raid? I can't make any sense of it
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>>376854627
Kiseki belongs to XSeed. Keep your machine translation and bugs to yourself, NISA!
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>>376855165
Get ready cause that's all he's going to do.
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>>376855214
Just keep dark mattering it. it gives you a tonne of xp and sepith
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>>376854765
You also meet them in 3rd, I forgot where I think the airship in the prologue. They're on their way back from their honeymoon or something.
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>>376855165
I bet he would enjoy watching Kanone getting fucked by another man while thinking "I deserve this"
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>>376854209
>How did I not realize it sooner.
Because you were probably busy getting mad about the game picking a girl for you.
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>>376855071
Trust me, the rest of the game is smooth sailing from here. Arguably there is one fight near the very end that is just as hard but you can cheese that boss fight because you actually have resources and a ton of abilities to use against him, unlike Jaeger 3 where you have to beat him with two mediocre characters and shit quartz.
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>>376855105
If you talk to them during the Epilogue they're both anxious about going their separate ways for a while. George also anxious as fuck whenever Angelica is in danger. They also dance together during the bonfire in the first game

It's subtle, but is there
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>draw ziggy from xenosaga
>give him katana and different costume
>call him richard
What did they mean by this?
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>>376855286
Don't fall for the bait....
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>>376855249
>I... Will run no more!
>Ready?
>Phantom Raid!
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>>376855358
Chapter 1's boss is going to kick his ass and "C" is going to make him want to cry.

Is not like I'm projecting or anything, leave me alone
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>>376850126
>shipping
Wrong terminology, friendo. When stuff is happening in the story, it's called canon. When stuff is happening in a delusional fourteen-year-old girl's head, it's called shipping.
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>>376855381
But does Richard have a pneumatic cyborg cock
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>>376854850
Most of the problems with the main cast could be justified to technical difficulties. Suppose each bonding event between every crew member amounts to 100 sentences. In a linear storyline, like most of the time in sky, falcom only has to divide these 100 sentences between every character.

Supposing you have 7 characters to choose from, and you could choose any of them freely in the bonding event, falcom would have to write 700 sentences of teammate bonding (and trails already have retardedly large scripts). Worse, each of the 7 different options lead to completely different scenarios because the people interacting with each other are all different. This gets exponentially more complicated if then the game has to remember what happened in these events, because it has to store a different response for EVERY possibility.

Because the above is nearly impossible to pull off (and ridiculous if you want to apply voice acting), Falcom choose to fudge things by simply dividing those 100 sentences of party interaction between the 7 different bonding event possibilities. The disadvantage is obvious: it weakens interaction between the party (because rean is always the focal point), and it makes a sort of quantum superposition that you don't know what happened to the events rean wasn't present for.

There are advantages though; personally I like that the story acknowledges that people have many different choices available to them in their lives and that many of them are equally valid.

I'm also pretty sure that many people would rather not see the bonding events of the characters they find annoying.

And in the future, maybe falcom will manage to really take advantage of the bonding events to the full, provided they go with a smaller cast (falcom bit a LOT more than they could chew with cold steel).

I don't think they will go as far has having secondary pairings within the possible romance options, because the waifu fags would literally set fire to the place.
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>>376854979
Why wouldn't XSeed give Sara a slap on the wrist for this kind of bullshit? Seriously, I've seen people BOYCOTT the company as result of that cunt's behavior.
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Calvard when?
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>>376855543
Yes. It's why Kanone still can't shit right.
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>>376855572
>I don't think they will go as far has having secondary pairings within the possible romance options, because the waifu fags would literally set fire to the place.

That's the reason why Fire Emblem never bothered making canon pairings after what happened in the 4th and 5th games. Waifufags are a pain in the ass.
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>>376855682
2024 localized by NISA since XSeed has a big competitor for Falcom now.
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>Game 3
>Orbment system is still imbalanced that onyx gem is required for everyone
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>>376855249
I think he says Strike before phantom raid.
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>>376855462
>>Ready?

ah, thank you
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Reminder not to give the desperate NISA shitposter any (You)s.

just stop replying to it. it's obvious when it posts.
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>>376855660
Because she's the only person they could find willing to work on these games for peanuts. Ban her girlfriend, risk her ditching them and their whole steam operation in retaliation.

Same reason why they can't kick Tom from the company, the day they fire him is the day they have to deal with hordes of goobergobers bitching at them for firing a liability.
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>>376854765
>tfw took me 2 hours to beat him on hard
>restarted the game after 10 hours on normal anyway because random encounters were just way too tedious.
He's not much of a problem on normal desu.
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just got a +2 armor for male (str) and female (ats) at chapter 6 in the ouroboros lab thing, should i farm a bit more of them? i don't know if you get better ones later on.
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>Going into game
"Ah, finally, a platonic relationship between brother and sister. I'm glad Falcom see Ries and Kevin that way"

>After finishing
"I hope they fuck".
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>>376855784
it's ok i'll be playing it in moon anyway
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my my
that was easy
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>>376855965
There's +3 later on, but its even more pain in the ass to farm
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>>376855779
Wait, what happened in the 4th and 5th game?
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>>376855381
Xenosaga is trash. Who cares?
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>>376855915
Oh yeah, that guy. What's his job again? Sucking off people over at Neogaf? No wonder their finances are in the shitter.
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>>376855909
Where are these shit posters coming from?
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>>376855940
Those screens are from hard.

Kurt wasn't so bad. This cheating cunt on the other hand, made drop the game for the rest of the night.
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>Richard has a cute kitty suit
>And its the best suit for his stats

Is Richard the closet /ourguy/ furfag
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>>376856271
What? That guy is easy as fuck. You have THREE characters with Impede. He should never get an Arc Prominence off.
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>>376855660
>Nightwolve
>people
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>>376856256
People got worried that CS3 would be be given to NISA after Ys8 was confirmed to be done by them, thus some faggots decided to shitpost for easy (You)s
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>>376856162
FE4 is the original game that gave players the choice to play around with pairing up party members to change up some stuff in the second half when almost the entire playable cast dies. FE5 takes place in the 2nd generation and confirmed a couple of the pairings. Waifufags were naturally not happy about one of the particular pairings so the devs IIRC wound up having to change stuff on the official site to make it ambiguous. Which caused slut memes.
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>>376856384
Can't drop Impede when this nigga decides HE HAS TO GO FAST. That's why I call him a cheating cunt, his casting time is bullshit
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>>376856415
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>>376856469
To be fair, what's the point of allowing people to pair people up in a previous game, and in the next go "lol no way, THIS is the OTP".

People sperging out hard due to it is still stupid, but they shouldn't have played "choose your pair up" and then ditch it.
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>tfw you couldn't stay in Phantasma and enjoy eternal tea parties with Renne
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>>376856561
The fuck is this?
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>>376856561
he's unironically my hero
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>>376856830
Autism.
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>>376856752
Even though you could pick pairings, quite a few of them were heavily implied to be the default canon ones anyway. For example Levin and Fury literally have a conversation that automatically makes them lovers if either of them isn't paired already.
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>>376856830
Weaponized autism.
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>>376856830
A faggot who thinks Xseed needs to pay him even tho they didn't use any of his coding.
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>>376856830
Nightwolve, don't look him up, don't try to understand, just run, run and never ask about him again
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I think we can all agree Osborne literally did nothing wrong right?
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Best art style
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>>376856774
>tfw you can't join her in paradise
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>>376846410
just got through the prologue of the first trails, how far am I?
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>>376856885
No Deucebag? He's slippin' up
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>>376856830
>he doesn't know
oh boy anon, you're in for a treat
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>>376856546
>you think this is bad

Holy shit you would rage at loa luciferia, 5 AT delay before casting an attack that will one hit KO the target (unless you summon valimar) regardless of evasion or shields.
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>>376857158
That was a poor image to post here, now you'll summon the /pol/ kiddies. RIP thread
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>>376857038
over the line
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>>376857036
I'll laugh if the last scene in Ao is a bait and switch and Osborne further wins in CS3 and takes over Liberl.
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>>376857158
What the fuck was his problem?
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>>376857349
>>376856912
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>>376857234
Fie made that fight trivial though. Got him on my second attempt, first one was hilarious with only Fie being alive, he kept spamming AT delay with his minions but couldn't kill me because Fie was untouchable but I couldn't move because of the massive delay, that shit lasted like 10 minutes, hilarious
>>
After the next batch of XSeed games are out what's left for them to translate? The Crosbell games!
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>>376857158
Did he really need to compare so autistic faggot to Donald trump though?
It makes his entire argument a fucking joke.
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>>376857273
Ao's epilogue mentions Osborne getting rekt and the rebels taking back Syri- Crossbell
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>>376857234
The game crashed during the fucking credits, was so dam mad...
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>>376857158
Jesus fuck, does the guy have autism or something? That is some next level retardation.
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>>376857495
I hate that fight. Not because it's hard, but because i need to kill him quickly before he did something annoying to my party. I can't enjoy the fight at all.
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>Rean headpats Tita
>Time freezes and goes negative

What do?
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>>376857743
Hence why I said bait and switch. It's obviously not going to happen since it makes no sense to go to Calvard with Osborne still in power and on a win streak, would be funny however.
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>>376857825
He used to make yearly posts where would just rant and shitpost about the DIRTY PIRATE SCUM and THE FUCKING LEAKER. I'm talking about long ass texts with Joker clap.gif as a background, it was THAT bad
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>>376857901
Get you to stop posting this terrible meme over and over again
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>>376857836
I can only imagine when Olivert shows up to tease Agate and Tita
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>>376858040
Was?
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>>376857897
Yeah, it's the only no fun allowed fight in the game. I wish more fights were like that in Nightmare, it being the only one at practically the end kinda soured me a bit, the game's difficulty was a complete joke until that point
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>>376857495
>regardless of evasion
I've been trying to beat nightmare mode loa lucifiria solo, no items, roughly same level and the conclusion i draw is that it has 2 dangerous attacks, both of which have perfect accuracy and will fuck over fie:

One that he draws you inside him unless you have a physical shield, he can use that attack twice in a row faster than you can cast adamantine shield.

The other that kills you unless you impede him within the ridiculously small window of attack.

So far I've managed to get him under half HP with Rean, Sharon and Sara before he decides to kill me off with the above.
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How long is third compared to FC & SC anyway?
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>>376857140
You've got about 300 hours worth of gameplay to go if you plan on playing the whole series
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>salt pale research report paper in star door 2
>signed by ries argent

Am I missing something here? Was this some educational material for her or something else?
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>>376858207
I'd say it's about the length of FC.
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>>376858170
I admit I haven't checked on him in a while. Is not as funny without the joker gif page though
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>>376857158
>Lipschultz
>can't help but bring donald trump and right-wingers into his rants regardless of how little they have to do with what he's ranting about

They really can't help themselves, can they? I wonder how he even found the time to become so indoctrinated in that weird social justice shit when he's spent so much time learning Japanese and becoming acquainted with Japanese media and culture. Maybe it's something in their blood that warps their mind in such a strange way.
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>>376858254
Probably some report she had to write to graduate squire training.
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>>376858273
And the girth? I don't want a pencil JRPG.
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>>376858254
Where is star door 2 anyway?
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>>376858204
>loa lucifiria solo
Literally impossible, the mechanics won't allow it as you can clearly see. Also I'm talking about average runs, yours is a challenge run, you can't compare the average joe strategy even in nightmare to a self imposed challenge.
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>>376853197
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What's with Olivier and Schera? Are they into each other or what? And Kilika too, is she just being tsundere to Zin?
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>>376858554
Poor anon. I guess video games aren't for virgins after all.
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>>376858254
Fuck, I just noticed that 8th Dominion was accompanied by some unnamed squire. Does this mean Ries was with Roaring Lion there?
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>>376858297
He's still angry, and it's still as entertaining as it's ever been

>>376858478
to be fair I'm pretty sure that was posted right when Trump was elected
I still lose my shit when he compares them both to Hitler though
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This shit is actually kinda spooky.

Also, why don't they just weaponize this thing against literally any Ouroboros member ever? There is literally no known way to stop it, at least from the church, and since Weissman died without managing to stop it either, with a staff that is apparently on some next level shit, then it's safe to say this shit could 1HKO any member they have maybe aside from Campanella, since he can summon a piece of the pale.
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>>376857495
>NMR
What's that? Nightmare effect, like fear or something?
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>>376858478
But Tom is anti SJW, that's why goobergobbers love him and protect him, which is why XSEED can't fire him.
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>>376858478
>human garbage translator
>programmer with human garbage attack dog
>marketing consists of telling their fans to do it for them
>rely on fans to buy their games multiple times to make a living
>tiny ass company getting outbid on their past core licenses
>jessica chavez no longer working there and producing awesome english scripts
Why are people against NISA, Aksys or literally any other company that deals in niche JRPGs taking over Kiseki and every other Falcom license again?
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>>376858771
Until NISA snatches him like they did Ys.
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>>376858759
You would have to catch them during a moment of weakness, with a surprise attack, a sniper shot or somehow trick them into touching it.
If you just walk up to them and point it at them, chances are they will easily dodge it.
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>>376858839
NISA is still worse.
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>>376858506
Grancel cathedral.
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>>376858761
It is Nightmare, yes. Can't remember what it does, only like 1 boss (And his recolors) use it and it was only an issue on the first game. I do remember it fucking your party up if you weren't properly equipped for it though
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>>376858482
It feels a bonus final dungeon and a very lengthy epilogue to the first two games.
It's mostly one big dungeon you go through but there are special doors that dump lore and develop some characters further after the evens of the first two games.
It was weird at first but when you get used to it it's not worse than the rest of the games.
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>>376858759
The salt transformation reminds me of this:

https://lparchive.org/NIER/Update%20124/

there are several pages
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>>376858929
XSeed doesn't do memelations.
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>>376858545
Fixed.
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>>376859064
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>>376859063
>Say hello to my little friend
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>>376859064
I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>376858839
I've seen you, or at least someone with a similar posting style, reply to me a few times when I've complained about XSeed in previous threads. I don't really keep up with this drama, but are you that Wolf guy that people are talking about? I don't really care if you are or not, but praising NISA and being so aggressive isn't doing you many favours; you'd have an easier time of shutting down those faggots if you didn't give them so much ammo.
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>>376847624
They are investigating the Hundred Days War
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>>376859275
Nigga, I didn't even know who that was until he was brought up in this thread.
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STOP

FUCKING

RESPONDING

TO

THE

NISA

BAITING

SHITPOSTING

FAGGOT
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>>376856383
this needs fan art
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>>376859392
STOP
BUYING
20 COPIES
OF
EVERY
XSEED
GAME
FAGGOT
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>>376859064
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>>376859064
There's just something really off about this.
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>>376859064
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>Scaremongers NISA stealing Kiseki
>Complaints about scaremongers
>XSeed is shit
>NISA is memey
In every kiseki thread.
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>>376859491
And every Ys thread, and nothing ever came of tha--- oh, wait, NA NA NA NA NA NA NISA HAS YOUR LICENSE NA NA NA NA NA NA
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Who will die in CS3?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2GPfm7o_lg

O warrior of NISA!
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>>376859064
EASY NORMAL
HARD NIGHTMARE ->OTHER NIGHTMARE
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>>376858771
Wait, Thomas Lipschulzt is XSeed's Tom?
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>>376859801
hopefully someone
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>>376859801

Claire.
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>>376859801
Rean, Towa, Claire and Sharon.
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>>376859801
Valimar
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>>376859801
XSeed.
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>>376859918
I am curious if they are going to find a replacement voice actress, kill her off, or just leave her voiceless.
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>>376860009
fuck you for reminding me
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>>376859857
Yes :)
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>>376860008
Anon, they aren't going to kill off 4 characters in one game.
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>>376860026
Replace her
Reminder that Kiseki has 2 dead VA's already
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>>376860224
?
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>>376860009
Pls no. He's the best thing that came out of Cold Steel.
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cold steel 2 for pc when

want to know if it's safe to throw away my vita
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>>376860325
soon after 1? i know it was confirmed at least the first 2
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>>376860325
CS1 in summer and CS2 in Fall/Winter probably.
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>>376860325
Probably Q4 this year.
Source: my intuition.
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>>376860160
They have to start at some point if they don't want to bloat story
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>>376860009
I hate that is the most likely outcome.
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>>376860254
Claire's VA and Wald's VA (Dude from Crossbell, also voiced some dude from dynasty warriors) are both dead. Wald's VA got replaced for the Evo remasters, so Claire's is probably getting the same treatment
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>>376860325
>want to know if it's safe to throw away my vita
ruh-roh

better hope vitagen doesn't see this and get triggered. there's enough autistic screeching in this thread as it is.
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>>376860417
>>376860432
>>376860439
cool, hopefully they don't delay 3 too long, almost got a ps4 for it
>>
Am i reading this right, i found an item so early in the game that gives me like 600 magic res. Wouldn't that character be immune to magic?
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>>376860325
I have this feeling cold steel 1 will be a complete mess because they are outsourcing
>>
What is the ideal difficulty to play Trails SC on?
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>>376860636
Trails 3rd has higher numbers than the other games in general because everyone is at a higher level.
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>>376860101
Wow, well that explains quite why everything else he says is at odds with his anti-censorship mentality.
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>>376853123
>+Invincible
> - (or is she?)
Cute
Anelace best wife
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>>376860778
normal unless you're a tryhard faggot.
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>>376860702
Thought Xseed was porting it themselves.
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>>376860813
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>>376860325
>throwing your vita away
>not keeping is as a vanillaware machine
baka
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>>376860802
I don't know familia, my res was like 30, and a leap to 600 seems too much
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>>376858839

Because NISA literally makes localizations that destroy your console or have game breaking bugs.
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>>376860872
Anelace is cute.
Sleeping Anelace is cute.
Every Anelace is cute.
CUTE.
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>>376851934
It's really fucking good.

Why is the Falcom sound team so good?
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Tita literally has him dancing around her finger.
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>>376858839
I remember when we used to shower NISA praise along with Xseed

Where did all go so wrong? Can we expect Xseed to follow happen someday?
>>
Who is NISA and what is their connection to the series?
Why are they fighting with XSeed?
Who is good and who is bad?
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>>376860813
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>>376861301
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS POST

THIS SHOULD BE THE ONLY REPLY
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>>376860906
Everyone powerleves like crazy in this one.
By the end you have weapons with 1550 attack.
Not many enemies cast arts though and you can get Genesic Barrier spell that completely negates all art damage for all party members anyway.
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> localization company woes
> instead of learning moon and playing superior evo versions
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>>376861168
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>>376861301
NISA good, wants to bring JP dubs to weebs
XSEED bad, hates weebs, wants to force everyone to listen to shitty american dubs.
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>>376861379
art for evo sucks tho
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>>376861446
>The cutest
>No dudes in Liberl want to impregnate her

What gives?
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>>376857037
What a stupid shoulder pad. Remove it and she looks 10x better.
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>>376861379
Why does Estelle look like she has downs?
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Dude needs to chill, i know he got his ass kicked but he did invade an area full of society goons, and yet he still has time to spill tryhard stuff like this.
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>>376861237
XSEED and NISA right now are pretty much even.
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>>376861578
I've been thinking about it since I noticed last thread, they each have one shoulderpad on opposite shoulders because they're two halves of a whole. It's symbolic.
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Will these two finally stop bickering at each other someday?
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>>376861812
That's retarded with zero basis.
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>>376861583
> Estelle
> not having downs
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>>376861301
NISA is a shitty localization company. They are handling Ys now. They are not handling Trails yet.

>>376861237
The fiasco with Disgaea 2's DLC was the beginning of the end for me with NISA.
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>>376861301
NISA good, large company that works fast and markets games, XSEED bad, tiny company that relies on fanbase to buy multiple copies of each of their releases to stay aflot and does not market games
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>>376861689
He's done nothing but job in FC and SC. Must feel pretty bad.
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>>376861885
If they fight together side by side it works out. Sorta. If Joshua didn't dual wield it would.
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>>376861840
>and then they raped him
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>>376861942
What the hell happened to Joshua's face there? It literally transformed into a girl's. In the original one he still looked the same, but he still looked fairly feminine.
>>
>samefagging
>unironically replying to the same post multiple times saying the same thing
>not realizing how obvious your autistic screeching is
Just stop and fuck off. Go harass some other fanbase and let us discuss our games in peace
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>>376862272
You can blame (or praise?) Chara-Ani for that.
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>>376862272
>EVO happened
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>>376862272
He softens up when he's in drag.
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>>376847938
Probably to investigate on Osborne's background and his motivations. The incident supposedly changed him a lot.
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Is this correct? Wouldn't it be more correct to say that Liberl is the pioneer of orbal inventions in it's early stage?

Cause from what i saw from Zero's, which takes place at least half a year after the 3rd, the place has a beta test for the equivalent of early stage internet, cars, and lots more techy stuff.
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>>376862461
>>
What order should I play this series in?

Always been curious.

I think I got Trails of Cold steel 1 for PS3 (gamestop nab)

Where should I start?
>>
>>376862780
As usual, release order.
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>>376862780
The Trails in the Sky trilogy on steam is where the story actually begins

Trails of Cold Steel works as an entry point as well but you DO miss some important background info if you go that way. It's not ideal but it works
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>>376862780
The original Trails in the Sky is probably the best entry point. Cold Steel doesn't really capture its appeal.
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>>376862579
It's more like Crossbell is a special place with insane tech.
Compared to the rest Librel is pretty advanced. They did come up with Orbal ships in the hundred day war too.
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>>376862583
Just embrace it.
>>
After how amazing Phantasmagoria and the ensuing final battles were I'm going to be disappointed if they don't do something similar for CS3.
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Why the fuck is she watching Richard from the side of a tree? She's still a bitch to boot, but at least get close to the guy and talk to him instead of acting like he's a holy symbol.
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>>376859801
Osbourne.
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>>376861379

She has her GO FIGHT face on
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>>376863197
>Sieg lands on Richard's arm
>She gets super butthurt

it's cute in a way.
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>>376857158
hold up, how has this guy not realized that selling a fan-translation for a game he doesn't have the license for illegal?
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Why did he lie?
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Will cold steel be a hit on pc? If so, how will that change the trails threads here on /v/?
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>>376860009
Probably this. The death scene writes itself, assuming they finally start delving into Valimar's personality.
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>>376863694
Just more CS specific waifu posting and an upsurge of people shitting on CS for being inferior to Sky and Crossbell.

I'm hoping it sells well though. I want CS3 on PC.
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Holy shit Joshua, ease up a bit.
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I always thought Luciola was just a chump but her last fight at the Axis Tower forced me to panic activate Kloe's S-Craft. Well done, you whore.
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>>376863682
Sounds like he's talking about extremely basic stuff like making sure things work when you play it. Wouldn't say he lied at all. You're just misinterpreting him
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>>376863682
He didn't.Cold Steel has great gameplay.
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>>376863858
Thats what makes him so great
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>>376856383
>>376859442
i regret many things i've done
but this more than all the rest
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>>376863945
But it's dumbed down Ao gameplay
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You know, it all makes sense that the goddess is the grandmaster, or someone who works under her.

If you look at history, the great collapse happened when humanity was at peak of their tech, and the shit that happened at liberl ark indicated that humanity was really getting too complacent and dependent on tech. They were becoming literal slaves to it, people stopped caring about bonding and making families, they only cared about having their fun on their computers and simulated programs. After all that shit broke down and collapsed, the world entered a turmoil of wars for land and power until things finally started to settle.

Now if we look at what Ouroboros were doing, they wanted to completely shut down all the orbal powers with the Ark, and when did this happened? After the 100 years war, and justly between 2 of the most strong nations with orbal powers, Erebonia and Liberl. Their symbol means the perpetually self eating serpent which might be a reminder to humanity repeating the same mistakes. People barely invented shit with orbal tech, and they already want to do an arm races with mecha and tanks.
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>>376862780
Might as well start with Cold Steel if you already have it.
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>>376863869
To be fair, her mist monsters are a bigger problem than she herself is.
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>>376864212
The problem is you made him look embarrassed. Make him look like he's really into it.
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>>376863858
an ex-enforcer dating the future queen of liberl is a bit problematic i guess,
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Not gonna lie I'd really love to find an LP of trails in the sky with a male and female doing voices. Could be pretty fun to watch
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>>376864212
just need to be more smug
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>>376864335
The war lasted 10 years, not 100. Also the problem was the war hawks wanting territory, Liberl itself is a peaceful country.

Also Ouroboros's intentions don't seem benevolent at all, so i don't think their intention was to teach the people a lesson in humility in any way. As for Aidios being the grandmaster, it's what most people assume.
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I was recently complaining about trail monster design, but i'm REALLY liking the ones from third chapter. They feel like more appropriate themes.
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>>376864473
That sounds autistic as hell, dude.

LPs where the person would try to uh... "voice act" or read all the lines were always the worst of their kind.
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What are the chances that Campanella is a Zemurian that survived the collapse of his nation? He seemingly does not age, since Joshua comments on how he has not changed at all, despite being a kid, so for all we know he could be hundreds of years old.
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>>376864335
Someone posted a theory the other day that the 1st dominion is the grandmaster, and that she formed ouroboros because she discovered there is no goddess so she plans on collecting the sept terrions to become the goddess herself.

That might make an interesting story especially if osborne (as he said in cs2 he would) tries to take over their plan to become a god himself instead
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>>376864473
Screenshot LPs or indepth LPs that goes into depth on the gameplay, the lore, and the developement history are the only acceptable LPs.
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>>376864630
Most of them are crap, it's true, but they can be fun if done well
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now this is just bullshit
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>>376864946
What's bullshit about it?
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>>376864818
That would imply that they would willingly give Osborne that sort of information, which i don't they would.
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>>376864946
Come now, it's really only intimidating in appearance
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>>376864946
Take care of Pater mater and Renne together, but avoid killing her once she's really close to dying, Pater-Mater has a Resurrection beam which revives her at 10000HP if you don't off him first.

Also, this fight is not that hard. The one after it though...
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>>376864997

forty five thousand fucking HP
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>>376865034
Osborne could have a spy.
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>>376865034
Osborne has already proven that learning such information is well within his ability
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>>376865115
Why do you think that's a lot tho?
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I remember an anon mention something about a really good acessory in the hub area that i could get, some type of crown.

When does it become available? I'm checking every place after i unlock a new character and swap them around to see every dialogue, and when a major event happens, and so far i unlocked Carnelia books, and the Liberl news articles from FC. I'm at the start of chapter 3.
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>this new quartz system is so much better G, not just the arts but the quartz too, it's seriously packing punch my nigga
>Attack 1 only gives you a 3% attack buff AND it gives you a defense debuff, practically all of the new quarts are like this

Why you gotta lie to me, familia? These new quartz are some sad ass shit, gimme back my old system this luck quartz ain't worth this.
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>>376865424
>this anon goes back to old orbment
>can't even use silver thorn now
Good job buddy
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Realistically is there any shot of us getting Zero and Ao?
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>>376865424
>Old system

But sky's is the old system already. Unless you're talking about Cold steel's one.

Also it is more fun, since you gotta play around with pros and cons, and also mess around with sepith count to get new arts, instead of just plugging in a quartz and getting the skill it describes on it.
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>>376865590
i think it's a joke about the beginning of SC when *PLOT REASONS* you must lose all your quartz
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>>376865568
no
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>>376865568
Yes.
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>>376865568
maybe
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>>376865568
Could you repeat the question?
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>>376865568
The answer is "yes it's possible" but you're only going to get shitheads telling you no because they're miserable human beings and misery loves company

At some point people need to stop taking the NEVER EVER bait because we've gotten every game they've said we'd never get
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>>376864946

well, this wasn't as bad as I expected, but I got really lucky with the death RNG on her attacks
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>>376865923
Makes me wonder if those people even like kiseki. They're in every fucking thread since SC came out.
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>>376866069
>Getting lucky

You shouldn't need to if you just equipped death resistant stuff on everyone.
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>>376866132

I got grail lockets on Kevin and Joshua, though
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this should be comfy
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I just reached the third plane and it tells me i need to move along it in sync, which also means i need to freaking use the people i've been benching so far.

Which means Josette has to join in too. I'm gonna farm some sepith from poms and the ooze things in the castle, maybe some boots from the assassin armor too, since the armor they drop is pure shit.

Which teams should i split everyone like? I feel like getting Kevin + Tita, Vander and Josette, and leave Ries with Joshua, Julia and Kloe. Would this be a good split?
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get inmune to deathblow items for the silver road (ries group), 1 for each
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>>376866807
meant for >>376866710
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Is Toval fucking Ein or what?
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>>376866807
I assume it's for the area's boss?
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>>376867068
the trash also has deathblow and as soon as you get in you will fight a group, so equip it before you decide to go in
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>>376866978
He wishes he was, but he is instead the Anton of Bracers.
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>>376866710
Put your best party with ries. That's the path with the harder boss
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>>376866978
If anything Ein's fucking him.
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>>376866710
I remember getting lucky with a rare gun drop that made Josette not useless in that section.
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>>376867204
>You will never get a kiss from Sharon.
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>>376853123

I made it a point of honor for myself to make josette carry my party, wish me luck
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>>376863197
Kanone is the autistic kind of cute anon.

>>376863609
This was the best. You could tell she wanted to be the one on that arm.
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Alright since Falcom utterly failed twice, how can we make Josette a good character while keeping her in a niche that can't easily be replicated by someone else?
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So Cold Steel 1 is confirmed for this summer but when will Cold Steel 2 come to PC?
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>>376867373
Tell me when you give up.
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>>376867637
Give her more unique crafts, like aoe status or more debuffs/buffs
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>>376867675
soon after, not a date confirmed tho
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>>376865391
Check the library shelves often in the Garden. There's the shelves where you first awake in the garden then there's some next to the tree. If you end up unlocking all the books without missing any you'll get a crown near the end of the game that gives some nice stats and some immunities.
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How hard will Akiba's beat bomb? I'm tempted to not buy it because I know it'll get a PC port to bring in sales.
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>>376867803
How to unlock books? i was hoping for the library to fill up faster to kill some time reading, but i'm at chapter 3 and so far i only have carnelia
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>>376867637
maybe make her do more damage the farther away are her enemies, or make her fast and do more damage if she keeps attacking the same target, i don't know, guns are kind of pointless when arts exist.
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>>376867559
cute wife
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>>376868125
This made me have hope for Kanone. Up until that point she was nothing but "MUH EXCELLENCY". To see her actually talking and helping Richard cope was nice to see and a step forward for the character.

Of course she goes full autist again when Sieg shows up but still.

Also, that door was cute as fuck. Just seeing the two main villains of the first game in business attire was a pleasant feeling.
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>>376868013
In chapter three you'll get the Liberl news books in the shelves at the tree area. Check there. Aside from that it's Carnelia i think.
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>>376856034

>Going into game
"Ah, finally, a platonic relationship between brother and sister. I hope they fuck."
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Kloe is so much cuter than Estelle I don't get what Joshua sees in her
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>>376868790
It's called personal taste nigga. Unlike Rean Joshua isn't a self-insert protagonist, so even if you want to fuck Kloe he doesn't.
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>>376868790
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference
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>>376861190
Because they typically make lower budget games with dated graphics so they know they have to compensate for that with great music
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>>376868790
She showered him with care and attention ever since he showed up. She may be an airhead but that genuine concern for his well being and her cherry attitude made him start to have hope again.

Klaudia is a nice girl, but she's also kinda bland all the same in terms of attitude.

>Joshua: Never ever
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>>376860872
>>376861168
Wait-- her name is Anelace? All this time i've been calling her Analace.
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>>376862461
Wait why is Joshua in a Princess dress? I remember the Maid outfit, not so much the other one.
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>>376868790
Joshua has shit taste
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>>376868790
>>376869036
This is more specific actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infatuation#In_transference
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>>376869148
School play. He played the princess, Kloe and Estelle the knights.
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>>376864212
You are my hero.
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>>376866069
>READY OR NOT HERE I COME
>Deathblow x4
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Man, why is trails writing so good? Even mundane conversations are full of so much personality.
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>>376868790
Anon, they're two completely different types of girls. Joshua probably likes Estelle for the same reason I do - Her optimism, energy, and unstoppable will.

She's exactly the kind of girl that a guy like Joshua needs. She is a girl who will bulldoze her way through your walls and into your heart whether you like it or not.

It's not for everyone, but personally, I totally get the appeal
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>Remember Deathblow 2 quartz never really cared for it in FC or SC
>Sudden realization that i can use them to farm the slime lumps in the castle
>Also realization that i could make some and have Tita 1 hit kill Poms
>Make some to farm them in Grancel
>Use it
>Immune

You little fuck shits were not immune in FC or SC, what gives you the right to do that to me.
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>>376867637
>Stealing now favors rare drops on all enemies rather than just some
>Gains "Rally" craft, which increases nearby foes Spd+20% and CP+10.
>Gains "Smokescreen" craft, which results in the next attack performed (by anyone) always missing
>Gains a little bit of speed and defense
She's still a worthless bimbo on her own but she can now buff her allies and debuff opponents to more than make up for her presence, occasionally getting a chance to nullify enemy attacks without Earth Wall. Steal provides her with more long-term utility to make up for the experience you could've been giving better party members, and the stat boosts keep her weak but let her survive to actually employ her craft arsenal.

While we're here, Estelle becomes 5/3 instead of 4/4, Julia gets her SC HP back, and Mueller's crafts are all cheapened by 5CP except Ragna Bind.
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>>376869221
Oh right I remember now.

Joshua sure crossdresses a lot. Too bad he was busy being edgy to crossdress in SC and 3rd.
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>>376869430
Me too anon. Me too T_T
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>>376868790
>Estelle Bright
>Is dumb as shit
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>>376869569
>Gains "Rally" craft, which increases nearby foes Spd+20% and CP+10.
>foes
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>>376869430
Frankly between the two I would prefer Kloe. Even without the royal ties.
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What was that baby dragon in that one moon door? Was the kid on a trip or something? Was that Rangard's son?
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>>376869687
Bright as in Radiant.
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>>376869701
>even 'fixed' Josette is such hot garbage that she buffs enemies so that they can mercy kill your party faster out of pity
rly makes u think
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Kloe would die heirless
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>>376869923
She'll get her cunt wrekt by the Lecht
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does anyone else hate rean i like the other protags way more
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>>376870174
Kevin > Estelle > Rean (haven't played Crossbell but I've heard Lloyd is pretty shit).
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>>376870174
yes i also hate really alot and like the other protags way more
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>>376869430
I appreciate your taste.
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>>376869910
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>>376869430
>>376870494

The only reason Estelle can act that way is because she doesn't have nearly as tragic a backstory as any other character.
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>>376870407
Confirming that Lloyd's only real problem is that he's generic with generic motivations
He's a simple character that's easy to relate to and occasionally does cool things, but he's not disgustingly tryhard in the way that Rean is
However, he's not as dynamic as Estelle or as badass as Kevin either, so he usually goes in the middle
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>>376862461
Reminder that Joshua was originally a girl and Estelle a boy.
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FC is a leftist game,
Queen of liberl is Merkel begging for peace by selling their shit
Richard is Trump and he wants to build that wall and literally did nothing wrong
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>Do Star Door 8
>The music that plays when they're on the airship.

Well that caught me off guard. Didn't know that song was originally from this game.
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>>376870915
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>>376870738
Lloyd is your classic eroge protagonist.
Rean is your modern-day chuuni light novel protagonist.
I remember they mentioned this in an interview somewhere...
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>>376868790
I can't believe you. If Estelle was as useful as she was cute she would be tip-top-tier.
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I'm at the beginning of Chapter 3.
Why is the party pondering what happened to Weissman?
Is Kevin hiding what he did to him in SC?
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>>376871090
Imagine if they had gone balls-deep the first time around instead of edging until Coldsteel.
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>>376871101
If Rean was anything like the average modern ln protag, he'd be winning all the time instead of jobbing as soon as someone with a name shows up.
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>>376871090
>mfw I kinda want to see a moody and serious with a tragic background Estelle just for the hell of it
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what are some of the best and worst romances in the cold steel games? i dont particularly like any of the girls except for angelica so id like to at least romance someone who comes with some good scenes
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How would Estelle turned out if she joined Ouroboros? She has the blood of a divine blade, she's naturally skilled, she made massive gains in Le Loche. Now imagine her with Enforcer training.
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>>376871158
Yes. They still don't know he's a dominion (except for Joshua and Ries).
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>>376871158
Of course. Most of them don't even know he's a Dominion.
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>>376871285
>she's naturally skilled
that's not what the game mechanics tell me
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>>376863858
Kloe winning the Joshuabowl in the first game would mean that Weissmann takes over Liberl by proxy which also means that Joshua probably doesn't go full edge in SC

>>376868790
Estelle is the complete opposite of Joshua, loud, optimistic, dense, and straight to the point, which Joshua has lacked for his life until he moved in with the Brights.

I do agree that Kloe is much cuter
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>>376871281
If you don't like any of the girls just pick the default girl Alisa so you don't get pissed off when Falcom decides to lock in that pairing for real in CS3.
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>>376871278
>instead of watching her sister about to get raped it would be estelle who was about to get raped before she shoots the guy
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>>376870721
Not everybody has to be damaged, anon
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>>376871101
To be fair, he has background on his motivations, and such, and Lloyd's Gigolo attitude is not played straight like Rean's, and everyone pokes fun or points out how much of a smooth talker he is even if it's by complete lack of self awareness, or because he goes with the flow too much to notice what he's saying.

I personally find him kinda endearing in a way.
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>>376871101
I'd prefer if Rean was a modern LN MC, at least then the party wouldn't have to get bailed out by Sharon/Toval/Victor et al.
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Where is moon door 3?
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>>376871525
silver road
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>>376870407
>>376870738
I find Lloyd to be pretty similar to Rean in that he's meant for the player to self-insert in. Both are kind of bland and generic, but at least Lloyd isn't also a super special LN character like Rean is. It really sucks that Falcom is going this self-insert route for protagonists, but I guess it sells.
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>>376871429
>Estelle lusting after Loewe
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>>376871583
>Super special self insert
For a self insert Rean is awfully wimpy and self loathing. People would sooner self insert into Lloyd than Rean.
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>self-insert
>has lines and even voice acting
Yeah, nahh
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>>376863858
There was a discussion a while ago where people were comparing the Japanese and the English during this scene. Kloe doesn't get BTFO'd as hard in the original Japanese. They embellished it in the translation to make Joshua more blunt and even a little cold.
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I want to marry Estelle bros
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>>376871774
Sean bless his heart does his best to make Rean a likable and unique character. But a VA isn't enough to change the fundamentals of a character/plot.
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>>376853123
>Olivier
>Great crafts
Wut? Switch him with Schera since she has similar ATS and better crafts.
>Bimbo tier
>not Greasy Tomboy tier
One fucking job.
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>>376871851
have you ever considered not having shit taste
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>>376871774
I think they mean in the sense that they more simplistic in their personality, or their choices and motivations.

I personally never found the appeal in self inserting unless the game lets me make my own character.
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>>376861480
No, it looks fine. I can only imagine people saying the art sucks is just the sour grapes talking. It's good to have the characters look more similar to the ones in Zero/Ao/Sen than like they're from a game from 2004.
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Who you using in 3rd? i take anelace and schera everywhere i go
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>>376871930
Out of the protags so far, Kevin's probably the only one who can be called complex.
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>>376871516
Isn't Joshua pretty similar to that too? He's set on one girl yeah, but he is also a smooth talker who gets girls wet, and is always doing the "here's a really nice compliment or action that would make you think twice about how i feel towards you, but i don't actually meant it that way". He also has he lack of self awareness.

The thing about Joshua is that he's not the playable character, but he still kinda fits the whole deal.
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>>376871986
Zero and Ao's art is much better by comparison, a lot of Evo art is not super horrible like most anons say, but a lot of it does feel off by comparison. Hell some of the smiling faces are downright weird.

Zero/Ao's Evo stuff is the same as the original, so it's not bad.
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Who would win, a headpatted Anelace or full Coldsteel Rean?
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>>376872163
He's not the main character you get to choose who he chases after i mean.
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>>376872293
Does Anelace have her ice cream or not?
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>>376871794
But no matter what he says it would be a BTFO to you, its a rejection anyway. How could it be better then?
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>>376872261
But Ao and Zero IS Evo art, what are you talking about?
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>>376872434
It's not the same artist who worked on the portraits for Zero and Ao i believe, the one who made the sky art for Evo i mean.

Zero and Ao's Evo portraits use the same ones from the original.
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>>376872293
Does Anelace have Tita and her stuffed toys rooting for her in the audience?
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>>376871727
>For a self insert Rean is awfully wimpy and self loathing.

For the generation of self-insert otaku that Rean panders to, that is exactly fitting. If the character is self-loathing and pathetic as them, but still manages to achieve all sorts of special chosen one powers and the love of every woman he meets, isn't that perfect to self-insert into?
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>AnalAce
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>>376872667
I wouldn't call him a perfect self insert because even with his edge powers and Valimar he gets btfo by anyone who isn't holding back. As for the harem thing, except for Elise and probably Alisa they don't jump on his dick unless you finish their bonding chain.
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>>376873071
Alfin also falls for him in the story, doesn't she?
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>>376872667
>The love of every woman he meets
The only girls who actually want to fuck him are Alisa, Elise and to some extent Alfin. You have to actively pursue the others.
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>>376873315
It's less her falling for him, and more her getting giddy over shipping him with Elize and Crow.
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>>376873315
From what I remember she does, she just holds back unless you do her events since she doesn't want to cuck Elise. So that brings it to 3.
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>>376873476
So did Olivier corrupt Alfin or are all Reise Arnors born with a little bit of crazy?
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OH BOY

SOMEONE LET /pol/ OUT

http://steamcommunity.com/app/436670/discussions/0/2741975115070730080/
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If we had it you guys way Rean would not be much of a protagonist would he?

You want him as a nomal student i assume with 0 powers. He would get fucked up by a pom.
Well then what connects him to the plot then?
Honestly if they made CS your way the most thing on his mind would "did i study for class?"

It would be fucking boring if you had " a normal guy"

I could imagine your game you want. Rean is a boring normal school kid who is as weak as shit, cowardly and bad with any woman going fully in to /r9k/ tier.
Shit happens arround him like the civil war and he wont get involved he just studies for his test so he can study for another test like real japanese hjighschool.

Big adventures who needs them? I got to get in to my 1st pick college.
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>>376873576
>He may be a restricted by religious beliefs (Islam, Hutterite, etc)
I laughed at that one.
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>>376872371
What? I don't really understand what you're trying to convey here. I don't really care which girl Joshua is with if you were trying to imply something along those lines. I'm just someone who likes to note subtle changes that occur during a localization process.

I tend to favor games that are as faithful to the original as possible, so it's interesting to see what small changes end up occurring.
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>>376873848
Don't let the shitposters get to you dude. Rean is not worse than any generic JRPG protagonist you can think of. Folks just have a grudge against the game and will find any lame excuse to hate on it
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>>376873562
We won't know until we can interact with Cedric.
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>>376873562
I think they're all just naturally eccentric like that. She finds her brother annoying for the most part, so i assume he didn't have much to "corrupt" her.
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>>376873848
If I had it my way, Rean wouldn't be a student, and we wouldn't have 3 whole games centered around high schools.
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>>376873974
I personally don't have a problem with Cold steel, but i don't think they're shitposting, they just happen to find Cold steel to be kind of a downgrade in terms of writing compared to what happened in sky for example.

I partially agree since i found most of the cast in sky to be likable and the story interesting, but i also had plenty of fun with Cold steel, even if some of the characters felt a tad stale by comparison, but otherwise the world building and interactions were also fairly entertaining.
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>>376873974
They are not getting to me, it is more my own musings on their arguments. it has been an elighting read i think.

Plus i am breaking in a new keyboard and fucking paying the price for it. Word of advice the Roccat Arvo is only good if you have less space on a desk.
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>>376853123
>Going to prison
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>>376874206
We had one game with a military academy acting as a base of operations that you return to after each field study.

You don't even set foot on campus in cs2 until near the end of the game
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>>376874206
Well how would you connect him to the plot? Interested to know.
If we set some ground rules as if we follow your logic of we can't have copys of settings.
so no bracers no police. No setting from Zero or Sora
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>>376874206
The high school is just a hub and you spend a lot of time out of it.
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>>376874338
Also i should add that in CS1 you spend way more time in the field than you do at the school grounds. Remember Nord highlands? I think i was glad to go back to school after that barren place of nothingness.
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>>376873576
uh-oh
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