Mario or Sonic, /v/?

>>376843939
Sonic is fidget spinner tier

>>376843939
>Before Galaxy
Sonic

>After Galaxy
Mario

>>376843939
This will reveal whether or not you are a massive autist. Choose carefully.

>>376844095
I already know for a god damn motherfucking fact that you lot are going to bash Sonic and put Mario on a pedestal.

>>376844095
>Implyin there isn't an amout of autism in Mario fans

Mario
better power ups which can lead to more varied level design.
handled the transition to 3D well
larger number of great games

Sonic

>>376843939
>design
Classic Sonic > Mario > Modern Sonic
>games
Mario > Classic Sonic > Modern Sonic

>>376843939
>Sonic
>zero good games after Genesis
>Mario
>even the spinoffs are good
Why is this even a question?

>>376844095
Both are autistic, so either way you'd be autistic no matter who you chose.

If you chose Crash Bandicoot however.

Manic.

I'll honestly say this, earlier Mario games were harder. You had 2 hits max, in Sonic you just had to collect rings after getting hit. I would never beat the original Super Mario Bros if it wasn't Deluxe on the Gameboy Color, saves man. Sonic will always be way cooler, I'll take my edgy tryhard super fast blur voiced by Urkel over Mario's fat ass anyday. Clearly I'm autistic

>>376846505
Sonic Advance trilogy, Sonic Rush doulogy, Sonic Pocket Adventure.

The 3D games are average at best, though.

>>376846469
>>376846505
>It's another people exaggerate how good Classic Sonic is episode

Mario, with Sonic you have the feel that you are watching a movie, he is just there running, and can complete a level without you having do anything. He's way too fast.

>>376844038
Do you realize what Sonic game came before Galaxy.

>>376843939
Waluigi

>>376846870
>The 3D games are average at best, though.
That is a gross overstatement. They're horrible.

>>376843939
Mario

But I prefer Rayman

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>>376844038
Aww yeah man, I too like Sanic Adventure 2 battle! I also like Sanic 2006! Great game. Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros 3. and Mario 64 are for normie fagbuttheads right?!

>>376847206
Your ugly mug is horrible.

>>376843939
On paper Sonic sounds better, but half of the games are broken as shit.

>>376847817

Well, those games ARE for normies, but you don't have to pretend you're underage so hard. The games started to drop in quality with Sonic Heroes, was still playable but definitely lazy development, stage recycling and shit. Shadow the Hedgehog was where it really went downhill, the Wii games kept him afloat, Generations was enjoyable. They just have to stick to the Adventure 1 & 2 formula, platforming and running fast with actual danger, not BOOSTING through any and everything.

>>376847817
SA1, SA2, Heroes, and Shadow the Hedgehog are good games.

2D: Mario > Sonic
3D: Mario = Sonic

>>376843939
Sonic was always better when we were kids.

Then we grew up and you were supposed to stop playing kids games. Sonic got awful, Mario kept coming up in carbon copies of the same game over and over. But you weren't supposed to care.

>>376849427
fuck that, just because we're a little older than we were back then doesn't mean we can't enjoy enjoy them. people with this mentality are stupid, ugly grumpy old fucks who don't like any fun

>>376850206
You can definitely enjoy it but recognize it for what it is. They're kids games.

>>376850434
We were kids when they came out. Your point?

>>376846889
Get out, nintenbro

Mario because I do not have autism. Genesis Sonics are okay though.

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Lets raise the stakes

>>376850779
You're no longer a child.

>>376851052
Eggman, how is this even a question?

>>376851052
Eggman of course
The only time Bowser came close to Eggman was in Bowsers Inside Story

>>376848626
Fuck out of here, scrub retard.

Snooping as usual I see!!

>>376851331
>>376851447
Bowser has more character in all the RPG games then Eggman has ever had.

>>376851052
Eggman, there's no comparison

>>376848634
>3D: Mario = Sonic

You can't seriously think that.

>>376851581
You fuck out of here you retarded bastard

>>376851630
>SSS
Big clumsy oaf that got his ass handed to him multiple times
>PiT
baby bowser is a fucking pussy
>BIS
He is a fucking Alpha male
>DT
Antasma's bitch until the last part of the game
>PJ
Generic villain

>>376851817
Every 3D game up to galaxy 2 is great, that is just 4 games

Sonic has sonic adventure 1 and 2, sonic heroes, sonic unleashed, and sonic generaions which are all great imo, one more game than mario has too

>>376851941

The two 3D Mario games you haven't mentioned are both better than any of those Sonic games you're calling "great". A number of those Sonic games that have to bulk themselves out to 8 hours with trash gameplay nobody would ever play, with only at best 2 hour Sonic/Shadow gameplay that people actually bought the game for and even those are shaky.

>>376851052
You absolute madman.
Eggman, but just barely.

Frankly, both deserve their own game.

>>376852318
I like them, they are about on par with marios 3D games, and the 3D- mario games are in the dumpster with games like 06 and lost world anyway. I also have a tint of bias, as the day levels of sonic unleashed are the most fun i have ever had in a video game.

>>376852439
Bowser already got one

>>376852510
Sonic Unleashed is worth getting a ps3 for

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2D games: Sonic>Mario
3D games: Sonic<Mario
Music: Sonic>>>Mario

>>376852840
Well, i played it on 360. But i agree with that sentiment. They are so beautiful, the lighting, the architecture, the particle effects, the sound effects, sonics voice acting. Its all just so spectacular in motion that no other game has given me

>>376843939
Sonic

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>>376843939
>No Sonichu

>>376852962
I want a blaze and shadow

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>>376843939
Mario.

>>376852984
Unleashed was the last game they really gave their all into. And it really shows. It's a shame we'll probably never get something as good as it, with the way things are, all things considered.

>>376843939
Sonic.

>>376853530
I know just what you mean. I didnt like colors, thought generations was a return to form but there was barely any content and it was crammed with 2D where the play style had a jarring shift

In unleashed when the camera went to 2D, it was basically the same as the 3D but just viewed at a different angle. It was like sonic rush the whole level rather than half sonic rush/half new super mario bros with the same blocky slowly rotating platforms from colors. As an art fag with an interest in varying architecture, sonic unleashed is also the most beautiful game i have ever seen. Not only technically advanced because of the hedgehog engine at full capacity (later neutered in future games), but the warm and saturated color pallete, set design and sense of scale within every area of the game, the character models have a ton of polygons (which is they look so sharp) and animation giving them tons of character (you can just leave sonic/werehog still, or watch chip and amy and see how they bob around) and culturally respectful yet surreal building design in areas like adabat and apotos

Like i say, to truly appreciate it you have to play it yourself, its a strong testament to the creativity and artistic vision that humans can have. And no, that generations computer mod doesnt count either for pc friends.

>>376854152
Yeah you're exactly right. I was amazed back then at how drop dead gorgeous the game was back then and still am now.

>And no, that generations computer mod doesnt count either for pc friends.
THIS. That shitty mod is NOTHING compared to the actual game.

>>376851052
Eggman, he has the better theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvERHiTfx9w

mario as a kid
sonic during later childhood-preteens
mario as an adult again
There is literally nothing wrong with this

>>376854418
https://youtu.be/DNP6Gl2BaKs?list=PLfkEktAT2nQBu2rMYbO-gkZ4EHbgCnT1U

You can further see all these small details that were just removed in future games. There are a bunch of floor surface types that have different sound effects for when sonic is walking on them, and i think even the werehog has some slightly edited sound effects in some areas because of how his shoes have spikes on them (but cant confirm this or remember perfectly)

You know, with sega porting 2 of their last gen games with just a month difference, i hope sonic unleashed is in the cards. Barring that, a remaster for the new consoles. And even if not that, emulated and made backwards compatibile on xbox one. The game deserves to at least be archived thru that , but my point is that sonic unleashed 360/ps3 is worth experiencing at least once if you are a sonic fan , and the sonic generations mod is missing all the heart that the 2008 game will have forever

blue
arms

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vote niggers

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>>376855469
HIS ARMS ARENT BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLUIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>376855567
I hate neutral fags but i really do enjoy both. Mania and odyssey in one year? We are so lucky

>>376843939
Mario has yet to have a bad platformer. Even the worst ones like 3D land and new super Mario bros 2 are still fine. Plus his 3D games are actually good. How is this even a question?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tEJgS3Y3hE

>>376848626
I honestly think shadow was worse than 06.

>>376848634
Completely wrong.

2D: Sonic > Mario
3D: Mario > Sonic

SMB isn't even a good game. Historically significant and highly influential, sure. But if it came out today, people would pan it for its slippery ass controls and shitty level design. You gotta don some thick nostalgia specs to enjoy SMB.

>>376855880
shadow was great. my brother had a gc and I had a ps2, one of the few games I had for gc is shadow the hedgehog and I loved it

>>376855905
mario world for wiiu was a snore fest honestly

Sonic 2D games were too simplistic, even Sonic 3&K is an 8/10 game compared to SMW, Yoshi's Island or DKC2.

Kid Chameleon was the best 16-bit Sega platform game.

>>376855905
This nigga knows what's up.

>>376856408
>Blocky platforming is more complex than physics based platforming
Yeah, ok man.

>>376843939
Both are hasbeens so who cares?

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>>376857396

>>376843939
Over the time, I've enjoyed both, as well as disliked them.

Mario had gems like SMB3, World, 64, Galaxy and RPG.

Sonic had gems like S2, S3&K, Adventure and CD.

But of course they both have terrible stuff, like Sonic 06, Sonic Adventure 2 and everything Nintendo does nowadays is a bunch of trash.

I think I'll go for Mario, since World still holds a close spot to my heart.

whatever I grew with Pokemon and Final Fantasy

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What's the point in arguing over who is better when they are both inferior to pic related

>>376857992
no

>>376857992
You think you're real funny don't you

>>376857956
>Sonic Adventure 2
>terrible

Kill thyself

>>376859135
sa2 wasn't that good anon. the boring levels when you have a mech that you just spam b are so bad. Also the last few sonic levels are shit.

>>376843939
mario doesn't have boostshit.

>>376860118
:^)

sonic or riot

>>376860118
are you the famous boost shit autist fag?

>>376847095
Genesis titles
Gamegear titles
Sonic Adventure 1/2
Advance trilogy
Heroes
Battle
Shadow
Rush

>>376850434
Video games in general are for kids. Mainly kids played Doom when it first came out, and, now, mainly kids play COD. The fact that you still play these childish things shows how immature you really are. Do you even have a girlfriend, assuming she's graduated middle school that is?

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They're both fags, matter settled.

WAH HA HAAA

>>376851584
What are YOU doing here?

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I like the genny "trilogy" more than most of Marios 2D stuff but Mario curbstomps Sonic in pretty much everything after that aside from maybe Mario Kart vs All Stars Racing

>>376861554
what about it, boostfag?

>>376862349
I'm no boost fag, matter of fact I'm on your side. Keep fighting the good fight brother, even though it might all be in vain

>>376843939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8MKYu3l0vA
"Oooh, it's alright, don't cry..."
The one voiced by Charles Martinet is the winner, obviously. He isn't even a very good voice actor-- he just knows how to make a character impossible to hate.

>>376863025
Mario is pretty much a blue collar Santa Claus who's a public servant instead of a gift giver.

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>>376848626

>Shadow the Hedgehog
>Good game

Someone who legitimately 100%'d that game speaking here because I was so bored out of my mind, it was not a good game

>Terrible siding balance, enemies and allies always attacked you altogether when this is an annoyance that could've been fixed easily in a number of ways
>Weapons were repetitively boring but practical or complete hassles to use for relatively worse payoff; rarely ever was any weapon fun and useful, and when they were they were completely broken. Many of the weapons ended up being pretty garbage anyway.
>Weapon variety is also bad, especially with alien guns being rehashed human ones for the most part
>Awkward mashes of platforming elements and gun-toting filling dozens of levels, especially bad since the platforming was just annoying nonsense for the sake of being annoying, couldn't even be unique about it
>Chaos Control was garbage, completely useless unless you're speedrunning or wanna get the game over with since it ruined every mission's A rank and was contradictory to half your mission objectives, showing Sonic Team learned nothing from Team Chaotix issues
>Short one-time gimmicks just about everywhere to mask the bad level design, and only to small extents in the big picture

At best the game is just playable, and isn't remarkably fun in any department. At worst the game is just an awkward mess of a design that tried to appeal to an edgefest wankery that was too unaware of its own flaws for its own good.

>>376863025
I really don't get why they need to make Mario such a blank all the time-- if they just made him like he is here he'd be way more interesting without alienating anyone.

>>376859135
Nah, I won't. SA1 is way better. It had great areas to explore, better game styles and a rather cool story.

SA2 messed up greatly. They took Knuckles' levels and made them crappy. They took Gamma's levels and made even worse.
At least there weren't any fishing sims.

>>376863265
Doesn't ShTH have close to 400 endings? How bored were you?

>>376863967
Yeah, I guess you're right. I really don't know why the fuck they decided to gimp the radar system. Such a retarded and shit design choice.

>>376843939

Mario, because I'm not a huge autist.

>>376848626

SA1 and SA2 I agree, but Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog are not good games. Heroes is average at best, Shadow is just plain bad.

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>>376863989

I don't remember the specifics of this aspect so I had to Google for the route map. This is way more than I remember.

Just a quick rundown: Every box is the level itself. The colored lines are the alignment routes you can take during the level, making it basically an entirely different goal. So for the first mission (all the way left) you could go neutral by just going from start to finish, for dark you had to kill 45 humans, and for hero you had to kill 45 aliens or something. Imagine this but in a lot of annoyingly various ways, and then having to be ranked on your performance based on God knows what for each MISSION. Not each level, each mission.

To get the true ending you had to beat every endboss possible whether they were rehashes among final levels or not (indicated by the farthest right red and blue boxes). Then once you did that, and unlocked every level by beating a minimum of one mission per level, you got the true ending, which was a level and the true final boss itself, which you could also be ranked on.

So imagine me repeatedly playing every level, and every mission in the level, to more or less autistic perfection enough to get A ranked on every single one of them. Oh and that's not even mentioning the fact that there were 5 hidden keys throughout each level which would unlock a door giving you access to stronger weapons than average in that level.

Oh but you thought it was over? Oh no, this is where it gets especially autistic. After you get A ranks on all the levels' missions (key part notwithstanding, but I did it), you unlocked a secret hard mode, in which you had to go through every level once and marathon them all. The catch was that 99% of them minus the final one and I think a few others, were all revamped to be significantly harder. You start out with a few lives, but I don't remember if it had to be done in one go . I cleared it all on my first try anyway, you aren't ranked on this.

Oh and I'm not even done yet
(1/2)

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>>376865381

(2/2)

Whoops wrong image

Anyway moving on, in reality now that I remember it, I actually did more than 100% it. If it was possible to record this somehow, I actually went past 100%.

I was so bored out of my mind that I decided to experiment with levels to find easter eggs, absolutely none of which the game encouraged you to try finding. I don't remember all of them, but there was a truckload of dialogue depending on your situation. If you get the hang of the true final boss' pattern and gimmick, you can beat him in about 2, 3 minutes tops or so. If you generally know your way around him, you might still struggle to stay alive since I remember rings being limited. I somehow formulaically found a way to last so long against te final boss, that I lasted about 10 minutes on him. Wanna know why? Dialogue. Characters were constantly saying things, and around the 6-7 minute was where Eggman made the final transmission, confessing in fear of death that he actually captured Shadow's corpse and rebilitated him post-Heroes or something, not that it wasn't obvious. There's absolutely no reason to get this dialogue, the game doesn't even make it all that obvious dialogue exists over double the time you should ever realistically need to kill a boss, but I got it. And waited a few minutes thereafter just in case.

Imagine this but for basically every scenario where I could extract dialogue. I kid you not, I don't think there's a single line that went unnoticed by me, and remember you get different dialogue for different MISSIONS, and different context sensitive scenarios (reaching the end of the level with an ally not having killed enough humans, running out of time, killing your allies, etc.)

So frankly I don't know how I can even answer your question. Autistic isnt' even a strong enough word for this, and I can't think of any combination of words symphonic enough to portray just how godawfully bored out of my mind I was.

>>376865883
so the game is bad because it has a bunch of optional things to do? /v/ logic

>>376866131

Nobody said anything even close to that you halfbrained chimp.

>>376865381
>>376865883
Ouch, it seems like the game drained the fuck out of you anon.

>>376863265
>that could've been fixed easily in a number of ways
How?

Classic Sonic and Classic Mario are equally good, early modern Mario is infinitely better than early modern Sonic, and late modern Mario and Sonic are equally shit.

>>376862013
best taste in this thread

>>376867370

Gee I dunno, locking you into a route after a certain limit's been filled? Killing humans and aliens alike did little to nothing in reality, even for the neutral routes. Might as well have stuck you to one if you were gonna make it obvious through your choices+actions what you wanted to do, especially since the aim for them were so braindead when attacking eachother but not you.

Another way to fix this would've probably been using gimmicks to show one side you were with them. Like say, for instance, choosing to provide healing aid for either a wounded alien or wounded human. This doesn't even have to lock you into good or bad, it could've just been for the general area instead of stuck to one person when you actually did heal them. It's gimmicky like I said, but it's at least more consistent with the gameplay's ideas and aims than meaningless setpieces like "wow look you can flip a bus to cause a cool explosion that hits like 3 people" or "slide under this spot because we don't know why we even added the slide feature otherwise"

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Who's the better rival?

>>376843939
Bayonetta.

>>376868750
I'm a sonicfag and even I know Wario is better

>>376868750
The ironic le funny meme answer? Wario

The objective obvious answer? Shadow

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>>376868750
Bass.

>>376868750
On one hand, Wario's number one.

On the other hand, Shadow's the coolest.

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what about the better sidekick?

>>376869817
Luigi. Is this even a question?

>>376869817
Yoshi.

>>376869817
Luigi, by a mile.