>video games will never look like this in your lifetime Why

Ego did literally nothing wrong.

/v/ said graphics didnt matter, so the devs stopped caring.

Because while hardware can continue to improve, artists modeling and texturing stuff won't.

I'm pretty sure a single frame of that takes hours to render.

>>376824135
What? That's just a photo of a raccoon.

>>376824249
Pretty much this. All those games that were on the 6th gen that had insanely high quality art styles have all either retired or moved to other industries.

With how it is now you won't find high detailed games ever again. The skill requirement takes too long and the production takes even longer.

Because hardware can't render that in real time

It's not about technology. We already have the necessary knowledge to do so but AAAs don't want to take that gamble since :

- Astronomical production costs.
- Limitting your market to ultra-high end rigs ( and those won't achieve smooth framerates either).

There's absolutely no profit in doing so at the moment.

>>376824229

He literally gave someone cancer

>>376824135

Because they started focusing on pushing ridiculously unnecessary resolutions like 4K when their hardware isn't ready. Instead of focusing on making their games look amazing at 1080.

>>376824471
DON'T CALL HIM A RACCOON

>>376824620

Also killed a shitload of kids, countless people on worlds throughout the galaxy, destroyed a Dairy Queen, and was trying to remove all life throughout the universe.

>>376824598
This, but obviously not that good of a quality. It would be impossible to turn a profit considering the development costs would be massive and very few people would be able to run it on their machines

>>376824795
Just because he wanted to be bigger

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>>376824471
>>376824759

>>376824135
>Why did graphics just stop improving?
It hasn't.

>>376824135
Costs and hardware parity?

There's not enough ROI for better graphics and you want to reach as many platforms as possible.

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How the fuck did Marvel films about characters who were never pop culturally relevant manage to be better than the last two Star Wars films?

>>376824135
The main APIs developers use for development are made for consoles (Direct3D) or phones (Metal) and update only when the capabilities of that hardware increases.

If developers would start using the Vulkan graphics API which was made for the PC, and advances as PC hardware advances we would no longer see discrete 'generations' of games and instead more rapid incremental improvements over time.

>>376824135
That's a fucking nightmare to render, besides is there a pixar movie that moves fluid and looks as good as a video game?

>>376824969
They aren't.

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>>376824135
>putting grafags b4 gameplay

kys my rodent

>>376824135
Fuck you you guardians of the gaylaxy reposting the same thread from earlier today.

>>376824135
I dont think anyone needs or wants it to be that good. Graphics now are already more than amazing.

>>376824969
Both star wars were better than gotg 2

>>376825171

HEY YEAH I KNOW RIGHT! IF ONLY GOTG EMBRACED DIVERSITY AND HAD MORE FEMALE AND MINORITY CHARACTERS WRITTEN ABSOULTElY ABHORRENTLY THEN MAYBE IT COULD APPROACH THE AWESIMENESS OF MUH STAR WARS

>>376825115
Ratchet is cute

>>376824135
Resolutions have progressed faster, and subsequently demand far more from the declining rate of hardware improvements to drive it.

Before, resolutions not only hardly changed, but also increased by small amounts. Now we're seeing like 75% and higher changes.

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>>376825171
what an absolute shit opinion

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>>376824249
So when talking about that, what is worse:
1. Flat edge cartoon style
2. World of Warcraft light art styles
3. Uncanny valley realism
4. Entire games made with Unreal Engines default materials, or materials made to be 1:1 copies

>>376824229
He literally planted his seed into every known planet galaxy and killed his children when they couldn't help him destroy the universe.

>>376825427
2 was the shittest by a mile.

>console limitations
>pc specs vary wildly
>games just simply look good enough as they do now

>>376825427
Not him but #4

>>376824135
it actually looks like it could be from a video game, but i think that games have a lot more going on than movies, there's some really complex physics calculations, lots of different scripts it's full of all kinds of stuff while movies are pretty much an image that gets drawn to screen.

>>376825404
Good points although I don't think hardware advancements are declining it's that the improvements are not yet at a price point for the average consumer.

>>376824969
Because they're more fun

>>376824969
because the last two films went full nostalgia pandering mode and just recycled old shit from previous movies?

>>376825513
>shittest

why have I seen both this and 'funnest' posted dozens of times in the last few weeks

retards, 3rd worlders, or children

>Rocket could be fun
>If not for the fact that every other Guardian is a fucking fun vacuum

LOL 80S REFERENCES
LITERALLY LITERAL
I AM (BABY) GROOT
STRONG TUFF WOMAN WITH NO PERSONALITY
BUG WAIFU

Beta Ray Bill x Rocket Racoon movie when?

>video games will never look like this in your lifetime

>Why did graphics just stop improving?

Because it's harder to render graphics in real time than it is spending days, maybe weeks, rendering a movie.

>>376824135
Massive diminishing returns after the last generation.

Games look as good as they really ever need to. What they need to do is look that good, run smoothly, and play well.

>>376825747
I lost interest once they called rocket a trash panda.
Fuck off, if you can't make up your own jokes then don't say one.

>>376825587
They have declined in the gains. It's advancing, but at smaller margins. GPUs are doing alright, still seeing 25-50% gains in a new series, but CPUs are at best a 5-10% gain. Admittedly part of it deals with the lack of optimization on multiple cores, but nevertheless it's still a small bit of growth.

>>376824969
because before the new trilogy they offered us the prequel films and expecting them to do better this time was a mistake

>>376824598
And you forgot that rendering in real time is different from pre-rendering.

>>376825872
That's why he needs a partner who can be his straightman and Beta Ray Bill is one of the best straightmen you can play off of.

Plus they can bond over being called stuff they aren't.

>>376825743
it's light trolling, anon. they know that the only people who care will fall for it every time.

thanks for playing

>>376824135
Consumers prefer the energy be spent getting the average fps up to 60

Why don't devs instead calm the fuck down with graphics and use that budget on making the game bigger and better?

Who is best girl, and why is it Nebula?

>>376826038
I wish they'd treat the movies like the comics and have one off stories and stuff. I hate that everything has to it I to the MCU

>>376826283
Graphics are part of the "better"

>>376826542

But the comics suck ass.

>ROCKET ISN'T REALLY A RACCOON HE'S JUST AN ALIEN SPECIES THAT SO HAPPEN TO EXACTLY LIKE OUR RACCOONS FROM EARTH

was fucking retarded. At least the movie made his existence make sense.

>>376824135
>Why did graphics just stop improving?
Consumers are starting(finally) to realize that devs can't make games with better graphics without completely sacrificing functionality.

>>376825427
>1. Flat edge cartoon style
If you mean cell shading like Zelda Wind Walker and Jet Set Radio Future, this art style is GOAT and works more often than not in creating an awesome atmosphere.
>2. World of Warcraft light art styles
At least it's something. It has an art style, it's not trying to be anything more than it is
>3. Uncanny valley realism
The worst. Games trying to look close to reality is fine but pushing the uncanny valley is just stupid and almost never works.
>4. Entire games made with Unreal Engines default materials, or materials made to be 1:1 copies
I've only seen this with mods or independent development and I'm okay with that

I think 3 is necessary for when we break through the uncanny valley but pushing emotional games with close-ups of sad faces and shit on players at the moment is stupid as fuck because it's rarely animated well enough to work.

>>376824135
Good.

>>376824893
I cried when he died

"Graphics have stopped improving" is the worst /v/ meme of them all.

>>376824135
>Why did graphics just stop improving?
They have? I played the original bioshock 2 recently and it looked absolutely disgusting, with terrible resolution issues and everything. And I know it's not an especially ugly game for the time.
>>376824249
While it's not a linear advancement since art is a skill that has to be relearned for each new person, there can definitely be a improvement in overall art. And not even just because budgets and total artist manhours increase, skills can be developed and tastes can change, or caveman art would look the same as renaissance painting.

>>376824683
>when their hardware isn't ready
Just like they did last gen with 1080p. Resolutions are easy buzzwords to sell your game with.

>>376827401
Graphics have stagnated, but that's due to the jump in generations being not very impressive this time. Maybe next gen we'll see big strides and improvements.

If I didn't watch the first one can I get into the 2nd one?

I have $30 AMC gift cards that expire in June. There's literally nothing coming out. Figured I'd watch a movie and put the rest to alcohol.

>>376826986
Well I meant more like they can do whatever they want, kill off who they want but it doesn't change anything in the "main" universe

>>376825067
Thanks to the reaction to The Hobbit, movies are still stuck at 24fps. I'm still mad at all the reviewers who freaked out about it.

>>376827552
>Maybe next gen we'll see big strides and improvements.
It's good to be hopeful, but most devs still can't work with previous gen tech. This is like giving a rocket to a retard and calling him an astronaut.

>>376824792
>This is bad

>>376827660
Watch the first one on Netflix, and if you like it, then know that the second isn't as good. Then decide if you'd rather lose 2 hours.of your life or have more booze

>>376825578
Show me a game character that looks as good as that raccoon.

>>376827757
>DQ getting destroyed
>Not bad

>>376828013
It's worse considering that now, DQ owns Orange Julius.

>>376825667
>R1
>a direct prequel to A New Hope
>just recycled shit from previous movies
I get the criticisms for FA, but R1 is very different from the other movies.

>>376824135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIgQQz5SNxs

>>376828307

fake as fuck

>>376827660
Pirate the first one, it's fun. Then go see the sequel if you liked it.

>>376827747
Previous gen was severely limited by low memory. I'm still impressed what they did with what is effectively 256 mbs of ram. Now they have 8 gigs and improvements are minimal. But that's most likely due to weak gpus and cpus.

>>376827660

You can exchange AMC gift cards for alcohol now?

>>376827834
Well the booze I can only get at AMC, since they have a bar.

Should I just go to AMC and buy $30 worth of booze and sit on a bench?

>>376828619
They sell alcohol at AMC. You can take it and watch a movie.

>>376828089
IT BROKE NEW GROUND

>>376824969
They gave passionate people creative control instead of trying to make a movie that would appeal to both oldschool SW fans, newschool ones and people who only ever saw Darth Vader merch.

GotG is also better than Avengers.

>>376824521

I don't understand how it took this long for someone to post this and no one responded. /v/ is retarded

>>376824893
putting XD at the end doesn't mean it wasn't funny

I love Kurt Russel

>>376829096
I CLAPPED I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT

>>376829339
Is clapping the ultimate american expression?

>>376828089
>Hey guys lets use the death star as a plot device again!

This movie was pretty entertaining, but a lot of people told me it was the better than the first and when I watched it it wasn't like that at all. It barely has any substance and the plot is really drawn out, you could have done the movie an hour long and you wouldn't tell the difference. As always with Marvel movies, Ego is a terrible villain with really questionable motivations that don't make sense. And the top it off the movie is absolutely inconsequential to the infinity arc, which is very disappointing because the first one was very important to the overall arc and introduced a shit ton of characters that should play a role in Infinity War.

All in all 7/10 first one was better.

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>>376829458
>movie about stealing the plans to the death star
>criticised for having the death star be important to the plot

So why did ego mention that he gave his mom cancer?
Like what did he expect to happen?

>>376829323
He's just the best.

>>376829547
Ego is better than the hammer guy from the first.
>the movie is absolutely inconsequential to the infinity arc
fucking nerd

why do people watch capeshit

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>>376824135
>tfw you're a huge DCfag and not only are the video games utter shit lately, but the movies are literally mainstream jokes
Why the FUCK did anyone put Snyder in charge? Why the FUCK would you ever hire Gal Gadot to headline a franchise?

>>376824598
This, and I also think the boom of the indie market that brought games like super meat boy and braid, to the spotlight, games that because they had limited resources had to cut in the graphics department, these games showed the AAA studios that people are not very much concerned with the graphics part of the game.

>>376824969
>how is a bunch of dudes going on wacky space adventures more fun than psychic space jews slapping laser dicks against space nazis

in before >b-but Rogue One was good

>>376829767
They should have expanded upon the JL/JLU animated shows. The animated movies haven't really been that good, either. How many seasons could they have made just with the budget of Batman v Superman?

>>376829728
GotG is only coincidentally capeshit though

Graphics in videogames still capacity to improve and always have, but videogames are pushing the limits of profitability and having everything look as good as it could has become too expensive to be profitable since the 7th gen.

Comparing the visual fidelity of CGI in film to video games isn't a fair comparison to make. You'd have movies looking just as shit as ME:A if they had to render everything in real time in the theater and were budgeted with the expectation of only making like like 200k ticket sales for the average movie.

>>376829647
What? Ronan at least had more legitimate reasons for what he was doing.

>fucking nerd
the only good thing Marvel's done is make an overarching plot, if you watch the movies as standalone they are all more or less crap, but the threads that hold the movies together (and finding those threads) are what makes them fun

>>376824229
Ego didn't do anything consciously wrong. He was just doing what an alien planet would do. In that sense he's a sociopath, innocently

>>376829903
WB Animation and WB Films are two different divisions that pretty much never communcate.

The closest thing that ever happened was between the weird post Batman & Robin/ pre Begins period, Paul Dini submitted a Batman Beyond script to the studio and they were actually considering making it.

>>376824521
>consoles cant render that in real time
Fixed that for you

>>376824969
Gunn's Troma and personal experiences enrich his work and make them more flavorful than the average superhero film.

>>376829432
Yep, and we own it.

>>376829998

This desu

>>376829767
DCEU movies are actually better than Marvel's. DCs movies try to explore themes and the psychos of the characters. Marvel's are quips for dayzzzz and nothing else.

Marvel=flicks
DC=kinograpgy

The mainstream movie watcher doesn't have half a brain so they can't appreciate DC movies. Too bad they are going to be dumbed down for this demographic with JL

>>376824135
>Why did graphics just stop improving?
they didn't, but now they just suffer from diminishing returns

>>376824135
>thinking devs will blow their performance budget and time on a single character.

>>376829547
I 100% agree with you. It's a good movie that could have been great.

>>376829996
There is a tie in to the infinity arc. You just didn't notice it because you were to busy looking for bad things. Besides getting away from the infinity arc is the best thing for marvel right now. Shits getting dumb.

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>>376827958
well since op is using some reddit tier cuckxcuck resolution literally any post 2015 character would look even better than that shitty raccoon.

>>376829998
>>376830478
he's not even cute

>>376829572
He expected Peter to stay hypnotized while he continued his monologue.

He's called Ego for a reason.

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>>376824135

You can have the most lifelike graphics imaginable, but it means absolutely nothing if those graphics aren't supported by good writing and excellent level design and the attention to detail required to make the world within the game feel real as well. Even if graphics in games continue to evolve and advance, if gameplay and writing continues to degrade as it has over the past decade it will all be worthless in the end.

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>>376829767

>>376830852
Like what? The Watchers? That's hardly a tie in, it's just a shitty easter egg.

Adam? He's already confirmed to not play a role in Infinity War, he will only appear in GotG 3 which is after Infinity War.

>>376830670
>can't spell psyche or psychosis right
>claims dc movies are better.

Both are pretty shit, I think both guardian's movies, iron man 1 and the first avengers movie are the only good marvel movies. The rest are either bad or just passable. Doctor strange is a legit 1/10 though.

>>376824135
consoles

>>376830872
It's a cropped screenshot, and no, there is no vidya character with that kind of detail.

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>>376830898

>>376824135
>Why did graphics just stop improving?
Because console had to catch up with the resolution and framerate.

And still really are.

>>376831102
Nebula.

>>376827489
caveman painting is incredibly advanced compared with the art that came after

>>376831180
it's a cropped image of some shit in reddit tier cuckxcuck resolution so the detail in that image still looks like shit, i have seen a lot better characters in vidya

>>376831238
But Nebula's desire to kill Thanos was already revealed in the first movie. Nothing new.

>>376824759
I'm sorry, I went too far. Trash Panda.

>>376831325
> i have seen a lot better characters in vidya
Show me.

>>376831345
Still a tie in though and do we really need more tie ins? Infinity war is happening soon isn't it?

>>376831385
Nah, you're worse. You're a furry.

>>376831385
Not if you're a girl.

The tech in terms of hardware is basically as good as it for graphics. The problem is budget, dev time, and artistic skill.

>>376831369

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw4-vw4dceI

>he didn't know what it meant

2cute

>>376831498
Well I guess everything's in order then
Enjoy the rest of your day

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>>376830670
>Marvel=flicks
>DC=kinograpgy
/tv/ pls go, all snyder movies are objectively shit

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Hell, i would be happy if we match the graphics of the FFX cinematic.
that's the first thing that ever blew my mind, and i don't think we're quite there yet.

>>376824598
Well, let's not rule out technology, we don't have the technology to render movie-quality visuals fast enough to produce motion, especially not while polling and changing based on input and interactions.

>>376825427
>3. Uncanny valley realism
Give me a relevant example of five (5) games that are presented is such fashion

>>376831319
yeah that shit was dope, but art that came after still managed to develop further

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>/tv/ thread gets more replies than actual vidya threads

>>376824229
>>376830023
Ego was basically heartless, the clash between him and Starlord wasn't particularly subtle with that theme.

>>376831213
kill yourself emenius
tired of seeing your shit on IB's front page

>>376825427
Worst is uncanny valley. It takes you out of any game.
Best is 1 since it relays on the art style, not graphics.

>>376829096
AT-ST
AT-ST
AT-ST
AT-ST
AT-ST

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>>376824135
>DUDE WHY CANT REAL-TIME RENDERS THAT USERS WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE AT HIGH FRAMERATES LOOK AS GOOD AS PRE-RENDERED MEDIA THAT CAN TAKE HOURS TO RENDER A SINGLE FRAME FOR?

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>this is the best video games can do in the year 2017

BRAVO TRULY AN ART FORM

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>>376830670
>a piss jar is a literal plot point
>this is what's considered deep and complex amongst snyderfags
universe reboot when

>>376831085
Shit form, senpai.

>>376831558
Enjoy your day too.

>>376831601
That's good to know. Thanks for clearing it up for me and letting me now I'm not gay for wanting to cuddle a fictional talking male raccoon.

are these guardians shit will actually be included in the avengers stuffs?

>it's another dc/marvel hate thread from the people who post about how much they hate video games on a video games board

You're more trite than the literary works you're so anally pained about. It's a wonder you faggots haven't killed yourselves yet.

>/v/ has better movie discussions than /tv/
really gets my noggin joggin

Super was a better James Gunn film tbqh

>>376831910
Only confirmed for infinity wars. The later movies might have some but not all the characters.

capcom should make a street fighter clone but with marvel characters.
i am aware this somewhat already exists but i mean a new big project with 3D graphics.

>>376831910
Chris Pratt's in Avengers 3. Not sure about the rest of them

>>376831947
And /tv/ discusses Vidya better than /v/

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>>376831947
The thing about /tv/ is that moreso than any board, they want to be the biggest contrarian cunts out there.

At first, /tv/ shit on Batman v Superman just like everyone else, but then the hate became so mainstream, they started to pretend BVS isn't a huge piece of shit. And now they've been doing it for so long, that a good chunk of those falseflaggers genuinely defend it.

It's like when you tell a lie for so long, you eventually think its true.

>>376831910
>hating on based chris pratt
>hating big boy dave
>hating rocket raccoon
come on man, guardians movies are fun.

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>>376832036
>fighting games

Boooooooring

>>376831910
They should be, otherwise Thanos needs to win because there's no way all the lightweights that form the Avengers can beat him. Even if the GotG join in it would be shitty if Thanos didn't win, since the only characters that legitimately have a chance at beating him aren't Marvel property (Galactus) or are already confirmed to not appear (Adam Warlock).

Chances are Thanos never actually gets to assemble the gauntlet, so it's shit already.

>>376824135
>When you remember how people said the same shit about toy story.

>>376832131
the 1st guardians was fun, the 2nd is shit

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>>376824135
We're close enough that I really don't care, graphical fedelity is at a point where it's good enough, I just want better gameplay.

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>>376831883

No problem.

>>376832126
Or when you save gay furry porn to spam threads with and eventually start fapping to it

>>376824352
That's the thing. Movies never focus on framerates. If they focus on rendering these type of graphics, in tandem with the amount of effort into making these models, it would take too long to make a movie. Instead they focus on high quality graphics with no regard to framerates

>>376829996
The hammer guy was just a big angry evil race hammer leader CGI guy.

Ego was a suave motherfucker Kurt Russel living planet. Yeah, "I want to own the Universe" isn't the most exciting goal, but the execution was way above GotG.

>they are all more or less crap
They vary wildly in quality and the GotG movies, which we're talking about here, are very competent and good standalone action comedy Sci-Fi flicks. Ironically, one of the things that makes them so good is that they're far away from Earth where the general MCU plotlines takes place, they're just about having wacky fun in a colorful (literally and figuratively) galaxy. Instead of, you know, a bunch of guys in tights charging each other on a grey concrete airfield.

>>376832259
bingo

>>376824135
Its better if graphics stop improving honestly.

The manpower it takes to make 6 hours of a campaign like BF1 could make about 10 games instead

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>>376824249
>artists modeling and texturing stuff won't.

Haha. Bullshit.

There's whole programs made which puts automates the texturing in otherwise low-poly models, and there's even programs which auto-increase a 2000 poly model into a literally million poly model with the press of a button.

That games won't be able to handle that many polys YET without slowing down is an entirely different problem.

>>376832176
Fiege has a massive boner for Carol Danvers, so she'll probably do most of the work against Thanos. Wanda is also significantly stronger in the movies.
The writers for Avengers 3 said they really want to put Nova in the movie, but I'm not sure if that will pan out.

>>376832176
>all the lightweights that form the Avengers
Isn't comic book Hulk pretty much a force of Nature? And that Vision guy is powered by an infinity stone.

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>saw this in the cinema the other day alone
>CGI out the ass but very pretty
>good comedy action and cool characters
>mfw all those feels at the end
Really looking forward to hulk vs thor movie.

>>376832220
>I just want better gameplay.

It's depressing knowing that gameplay is just as stagnant as engine tech with no hope in sight.

The only foreseeable solution is extremely large scale games with multitudes of interacting systems, but it will require too much funding and talent to weave everything together that it will never make it out of development hell.

>>376831651
Andromeda

>>376832537
Hulk has jobbed to Thanos quite a few times, and Vision will probably die in the setup to IW

>>376832559
gameplay has peaked for most genres.
granted with VR and those hand controllers, new things are possible, but with a controller, it ain't gonna get much better.

>>376824135
the second movie wasn't as good as the first one

>>376831642
Games today have surpassed that graphically

>>376832625

There's nothing realistic about Andromeda's animations, though.

>>376832548
When The Chain kicks in, it pulls at the heartstrings pretty badly

>>376832548
I guarantee thats only going to be one scene. We've been hearing for a year now its more of a buddy cop movie.

>>376832126
You mean Poe's Law?

>>376824135
because mustard race redditors demand that every game be playable at 144 fps with a toaster and it needs to be at least 60 hours long "to get my moneys worth" so devs are trapped in the middle ground where we get somewhat pretty games with a lot of filler content

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When do you think they'll stop make marvel movies?
Or will it go on forever like with call of duty?

>>376824135
Textures didn't get a giant upgrade, but the lighting did

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>>376832554

ban evading again are we

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>>376824792
>Dairy Queen

>>376832221
>>376832956
Why is he so perfect?

>>376832941
I think most of the audience is only on board until Infinity Gauntlet. After that, I think people will start losing interest.

Because of console gaming

>>376832941

As long as they do a variety of different franchises, I wouldn't mind.

It's not like they can be worse than their actual comics, at least.

>>376832537
This
>>376832630

Plus so far in the movies Hulk has been shown to be much weaker than in the comics.

>>376832521
But are we sure that Danvers is going to be in Infinity War? I thought they'd introduce her in her standalone movie.

>>376824135
Consoles

>>376832893
God forbid people prefer gameplay to graphics when it comes to video games.

Consolecucks will sacrifice everything for the epic cinematic experience. Kinda makes you wonder why they don't just stick to movies instead.

to be fair, the punisher movies we got are pretty nice.
but a new punisher movie would be great.

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video games

>>376832941
They'll keep doing them but once the Infinity Arc is over they are going to ease up and release maybe one movie a year.

In its place you'll have 4 Star Wars movies every year.

>>376833083
Carol is being introduced in between parts 1 and 2 of Avengers 3.
I'm willing to bet she'll have a huge presence during the final confrontation.

Devs won't hire engine designers nor artists, they just rip old content.

>people actually defending this LOLSORANDUMBXD movie

Shit taste confirmed. They dropped the ball really hard after the first movie.

>>376833270
They're pretty bad. If you want to yiff, just stick to porn. The writing quality is probably better than what Marvel's been shitting out for the past several years.

>>376833168
>no rocket raccoon, sly and ratchet crossover game
i think it might be cool, granted slys playstyle would be a little out of place.

>>376830135
You retard, 3D animation of that caliber takes multiple super computers and days to render

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>>376826314
My brother

>>376830898
Bad opinions have no place on my /v/

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>Its another pixel 'art' 'early access' game

When the fuck will this indie shit stop? Been looking for a new game to play, something similar to dark souls and with good graphics but anything close to dark souls is pixel shit.

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>>376833270

The comics aren't exactly quality. Marvel artists didn't really know what a raccoon is at the time.

>>376833348
Them making fun of the capeshit formula became a formula.
The sequels existence is a sad joke.

I'm glad the terminally ill creator got to see the first one though. That story could melt the coldest heart.

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>>376826314
Mantis obviously

>>376833785
seth-iova is a hack

>>376824249
This.


Sadly Modeling and texturing dont changed in 20 years, unless someone manage to create a more fast way to model and tex, we wont see graphics like this in a game.

>>376824792
Are you trying to list things he did wrong? Or things he did right?
Your giving me mixed signals here

>>376833846
She's disgusting

>>376833780
It's truly amazing how nobody at Marvel knows what happened in Thanos Imperative, but they continue to add on to it.

>>376824135
Give it 30 years or so

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VIDEO
GAMES

Wasn't expecting him to be so cheap, should I get it

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>>376833885
Take that back or I swear to God I will find you and kill you.

>>376834051
She's ugly and you have shit taste.

We already reached the 'uncanny valley' point with LA Noire. It's just pointless to have such intense detail in most games when a game looking passable at a lower file size, with less strain on your system, is fine for everyone but autists with $3000 rigs who pirate most of their games anyway.

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>>376834080

No that ruined my Nick figure last year

This doesn't look so bad either

>>376834373
>pop
Please no

>>376834373
Did you take pics of you doing the deed?

>>376834285
Fuck off Drax

>>376834051
What a vile creature

>>376824249
While I understand your argument, it's not entirely true.

Textures have come very far in just how good computers have become at generating them, of course it still takes a person to apply it well- but the process has been very well streamlined

Creating a (number)k texture now isn't more difficult or time consuming than it was to make a 128x128 years ago, it's actually easier and faster by a mile.

And photogrammatry is showing to be quite promising for models, I guess.

>>376834465
Maybe.

>>376834410
I don't like them either tbqh but this one looks like some effort was put into it.

>>376834736
>Maybe.
Post them.

>>376829885
Rogue One was sure as shit better than Force Awakens.
Not that that's saying much though.

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>>376834373
hot glueing is a weird thing but if i was degenerated enough i'd probably do it on my ziggs statue

>>376834736
>I don't like them either tbqh but this one looks like some effort was put into it.
You aren't wrong, but even the Disney Infinity figure looks better.

>>376835173
Nice

>>376831706
/v/ has always been able to discuss literally everything else better than actual video games.

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Daily reminder that the final pinnacle of muh graphics is to create a fully CGI world that's almost indistinguishable from real life. Daily reminder that we'll be long dead before the technology to this will be practical enough to actually be used as such.

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>>376835802
>all production is now robots that all work automatically.
>now most of the world is unemployed, except for a couple of roles that cant be replaced by robots
>all that free time
born too early...

>>376825427
I like 1 and 2.
3 and 4 are both awful. Especially 3.

>>376835802
never gonna happen anyway pham

>>376833880
>Destroying a Dairy Queen
>right

>>376835998
>all that free time
It's looking like you're gonna have a lot of free time but not money to spend on anything at all, from the way the world is going. You'l get enough to survive if we're lucky, but standards of living will most likely go down for everyone but the elite, because capitalism must be upheld at all costs.

>>376832824
Why does it feel like they haven't? Is it the animation? I think you're right, but I've been thinking about this and I'm not sure why.

>>376833885
on the inside?

>>376832474

3D animator here, you are retarded.

Polygon subdivision/tessellation has existed for decades, it's absolutely nothing new and every 3D modeler in the world is familiar with it. It's not a fucking magic button - it doesn't add detail or take intended topology into consideration, all it does is smooth the entire model indiscriminately. Works great for stuff like cars or trees or soft pixar characters or anything with smooth curves, not so much for most character design or anything with sharp corners and edges.

And automated texturing? Hilarious. You can "automate" textures that are procedural, sure, but literally anything that needs actual non-randomized features on it, which is nine out of ten models, has to be not only custom textured but also unwrappped for texturing beforehand, which can be a lot of work.

Tools are made all the time that make these things simpler, but most of them are proprietary and can't be bought anywhere, and none of them do everything for you like you claim.

>>376832824
The textures and models are better, but we don't have that level of physics quite yet.

>>376836335
stagnant gains. The industry is already further ahead than the technological barrier of a single machine.

>>376835173
Wow, anon.
That's kinda gay.

>>376836572
But, to my eye, I can't put my finger on what it is that makes today's stuff better looking than the FMVs from FFX - do you get what I mean?

consoles hindering the advancement of graphics generation after generation

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>there are people on this board right now who watched both GotG movies but have never played James Gunn's video game

>>376836754
>tfw replayed it ~6 times to unlock the costumes
game was fun, great style, great unlockables and combat was fine.

>>376836707
Shaders. Shaders make all the difference.

What does it mean if when I watched the first GotG years ago, I didn't want to fuck Rocket, but not that GotG2 is out I do?
Have I become more degenerate over the years?

>>376836707
It's probably the way the wind is moving his clothes/hair. That, and the cinematic camera angles. In terms of graphical fidelity we've reached that .webm, it's physics that are currently lacking.

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>Gunn wants to make Thunderbolts and Moon Knight but he is busy with Redditors of the Galaxy

>>376833979
When you have a self-hating fat Jew writing almost every story and every classic character you get that and one of said fat Jews self-inserts as a white girl getting the BBC. And you have a failed politician try to throw one character under the bus to promote Captain BLM and try to say your characterization is correct for both. Don't get me started on Ms. America it's like fat "Hispanic" CWC comics.

i want to rocket raccoon

>>376824352
I can confirm this, these day Renderman is using physically based shading and ray tracing, frame with hero character can take anywhere from 4 hours to 3 days to render. Usually it falls between ~6 hours though along with 48+ gigs of memory usage. Render farm machine often break because they need to load so much data during frame render preparation, and they are used all the time.

>>376837465
*machines*, not machine..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzQjUcdlv1c

>The first Marvel property to get a Disney ride is Guardians

How weird.

>>376824893
DISNEY OWNS MARVEL, Y'ALL

>>376837657
I really hope this ride comes to Florida before I go back there.

>>376824135
They will. We're making great progress with real time path tracing.
We just need moar cores.
Interestingly, the more complex games become (in triangle count), the more ray/path tracing becomes the more efficient option compared to rasterizing, as rasterizing grows linearly in computation time, where path tracing grows logarithmically.

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>>376824135
>prerendered graphics
That's cheating. Videogames will always have a hard time trying to get graphics that good.

>>376837901

Probably not for another 5 years, they're focused on building Star Wars shit in the Florida parks.

>>376829319
XD

>>376838180
Both of those things are significantly worse than cum inflation

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>>376836287
>Implying all Dairy Queens shouldn't be purged.
Wow, I thought I just heard something stupid.

>>376836754
Except I have and it's one of my top 5. I need to replay it some time.

>>376838626
What's wrong with DQ?

>>376833596
PLANET DANGER

>>376839147
Degeneracy and faggotry.

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Was I imagining things or did they skim over Planet Hulk when Rocket and Yondu were warping across the galaxy?

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>>376835802
>we'll be long dead before

But that's where you are wrong.

>>376824135
What are you talking about? It's literary next 5 years.

>>376824135
Not so sure about that faggot, in my lifetime we have already gone from sprites to 3D, this doesn't seem much at all. We can now render an image 60 times a second that took several hours 20 years ago.

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Why can't there be a legit GotG game? Sony's making a Spiderman one now that the Activision license deal expired

>spend millions on 3d models so the 200 people with 8k pc have extremly good models

>>376840467
>gives Star Wars exclusively to EA for ten years
>gives exclusive Spiderman license to Sony
Man, I love their movies, but Disney should just stay the fuck away from Vidya.

>>376837208
Great answer, thanks mate.

>>376840778
>gives Star Wars exclusively to EA for ten years
The terms of that agreement are far less expansive than people believe.

>>376840778
Insomniac has an overall solid record of their games with their worst being Fuse (Hilariously enough from EA)
I think they can make a great Spiderman game, but yeah handing over Star Wars to EA was a horrid idea

>>376841264
Then why is no one else making Star Wars games for PC and consoles? The only non-EA Star Wars games I've seen since that deal are mobileshit.

>>376841298
My issue with it is the exclusivity part. Third party console exclusives are 100% anticonsumer.

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Why cant comic artists draw Rocket correctly?

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>>376830898
What?

>>376841567

They might as well hire a furry artist for him.

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>>376841751
Or just anyone who knows what a raccoon looks like.

>>376824792
Why a Dairy Queen?

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That shit is not impressive. Arkham Knight looks better. Kill yourself, Marvelshill.

>>376840467
I wouldnt want to play as anyone but Rocket anyway.

>>376842410
I wanna play a game as Rocket where you use a jetpack and guns to hunt down bounties

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>>376842578
Sounds itd be Freeware tier.

But the potential is there.

>>376837657
Universal studios is cucking Disney world

>>376837657

>Not in the Florida park

Fuck.

>>376835802

I dont think so. consider where graphics were 20 years ago. think we need at least another 20 maybe 30.

Rocket spinoff game when

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>>376835173
RIP soldier.

>>376842891

It's just a reskin of the Tower of Terror ride anyway. I'll take the classic Twilight Zone theme over capeshit anyday.

It already takes hours or days to render that shit using a render farm, rendering that level of detail in real time is literally impossible.

Granted that the past employed ridiculous amounts of slave labour.

But just look at the buildings that used to be built in the past versus the buildings that are built today. Even by rich people.

The truth of the matter is that we can do so much, much better. But no one on the planet is willing to invest since it's not necessary to go that far.

That's because production costs everywhere are seeing a dramatic increase.

And that's because basically, the details are soooo tiny and the simulations soooo huge, it takes humans forever to craft a single scene.


And the only way to lower this is to, once again, eliminate the human part of the equation and use artificial intelligences.

I believe that soon there will be an explosion of graphics quality and quantity that, coupled with dramatically cheaper monitor technology (because again, a.i.), will not only make the OP level image quality viable in fluid realtime/~120hz+ for end consumers, but even true World-Simulation/The Matrix level quality viable.

So I'd say just wait and Invest into artificial intelligence.

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>>376833863
> Modeling and texturing dont changed in 20 years
Spoken like someone who hasn't touched any modelling or texturing programs.

Most models nowadays are produced using scultping techniques where you take a large block and chip away, rather than building a model up from shapes that become more and more complex.

Plus tools like Substance Painter use advanced algorithms to simulate the effect of wind, rust, aging, flame and so forth for turning flat textures into complex surfaces with normal maps, bump maps, and specular maps that would have all been done by hand in the past, but nowadays just requires moving some sliders. It's still time-consuming, especially if a studio has to use a Technical Artist to make all the shaders that something like SP uses, but the methods haven't got dramatically more time-consuming, they've simply changed.

I'd seriously recommend trying out Zbrush, Substance Painter and Maya so you can see just how easy it is these days to produce decent quality work, and then remember that 15 years ago pic related was the pinnacle of high quality professional modelling and took the same amount of time to make as a modern game protagonist.

>>376842032
Is Rocket the best husbando in existence?

>>376824135
Because increases in resolution have been taking up the vast majority of graphical horsepower improvements.

>>376824352
This. Comparing high budget American CGI movies to games is dumb as fuck. These movies are rendered using some powerful server farms and even then, they can take hours to days to render completely. Current home PCs are nowhere near that computationally capable.

Why do I need my games to look like that?
I'm not a furfag.

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>>376845224
No, but he is the best raccoon in the galaxy.

>>376843514

Is it? That's a disappointment.

>>376845224
>best husbando
i hate how only the movie even made him popular
you faggots don't give too fucks about him or his personality, just his appearance

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>>376845224

He's up there.

>>376824135
Because no video game will never make anywhere near as much money as a blockbuster action film.

>>376845974
>what is GTA V?
>what is GTA: Online?

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>>376845781

To be fair the California version sucked ass compared to the original. Still feels lazy though.

>>376845876
I liked him from when he was revealed to the world, in the UMvC3 trailer.

>>376845974
Wow, come out from under your rock.

>>376824135
because, you know how long it takes to render just a single frame of an animated movie?

>>376846286
as long as you liked him before the first movie made him popular i don't care
but the faggots who try and say they liked him despite not giving two fucks about him before the first movie bother the fuck out of me

>>376842891

Thank fucking god, tower of terror is a fucking classic, getting rid of it would be equal to getting rid of fucking space mountain (Honestly, space mountain would've been a much better candidate to reskin as a Guardians ride).

Taserface

>>376845876
>Implying I only like him for his appearance
I'm not that shallow, anon.

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>>376846408
Not the reaction I was expecting, but I didn't lie.

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>>376824969
Both are fines but lets talk about the best big action franchise of the last decade.

>>376837418
It's not just Bendis who pulls that shit with Thanos Imperative, though.
Every last writer at Marvel who's referenced it displays how they couldn't even bothered to check a wiki article on it.

>>376846262
>>376846417

I was under the impression that it was a new ride, that's all. Surely Didney Worl makes enough money to build and expand for more rides, right?

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>>376846408
I like Rocket and had absolutely no interest in Mahvel comic stuff before the movies, nor do I pretend otherwise.

>>376832351
They're also not rendering in real time, Genius.
They can have as much detail as they want at any framerate they want.

>>376847105

Yes, Disneyland actually has an excuse since they barely have any land left to build new stuff.

Disney world has so much unused land they can build whatever. There's a lot of weird legal barriers though that restrict the Florida park from using Marvel though thanks to Universal. Which is probably why they're building a Star Wars land instead.

>>376847434
you sound like a huge faggot desu

>>376824229
Ego was being egoic, that's the problem.

>>376824135

I don't know what it was about this movie, but this time around Rocket gave me weird groin feelings...

Not even a furry, what the fuck

>>376827552
>Graphics have stagnated
Compare a 2016 or 2017 game to a 2013 game. They haven't stagnated.

>>376824969
Trick question, they're all garbage.

Only good Marvel movies are Iron Man and Incredible Hulk. Technically, you can count a good chunk of X-Men movies as well.

>>376836531
unfortunately as an animator slave you have little technical knowledge and no awareness of technical advancements made in that field all the time. it seems you have no knowledge what makes up the actual bulk of the work in game related modeling, texturing and animation work either.

since you mention procedural generation, machine learning is already starting to give us tools where we can create almost any kind of texture we want by feeding some algorithm photos as input and touching it up a little. this already will reduce real world texturing workloads in games by 90%+, because you don't need an artist to manually draw the wood texture of a chair, or brick wall textures.

procedural animation has so many papers coming out every year that many low level animator slaves like you will probably be out of a job completely in the near future. you don't need a great artist or actor to animate when a non-essential character speaks, walks around, reaches for something, etc.

>>376824135
The fact that you want better graphics instead of better games depresses me.

honestly nigga look at the advances in lighting and shading and shit, all that shit looks so much better now

>>376829432
Yes, and apparently it quite common.

I don't go to the movies very often, but I went to go see Logan when it came out at the beginning of March. The audience was bawling like a bunch of bitches at the end, and when the credit roll began, half the room stood up and applauded.

It was so fucking surreal.