They fixed it. Some of the smaller issues with the animation

That took way too long

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Isn't it meant to look like this?

>>376818056
They fixed it weeks ago, you dildo.

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>6 patches to correct a gun model position that was pointed out as incorrect before the game even released

Too bad they can't fix the fact that the franchise is now on ice

>>376818056
How the FUCK do you place a gun incorrectly like that!?! Were these people even taking their jobs seriously?

>>376818351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hmg_fJ6A4k

>>376818056
Y'know what EA stands for?

Early Access

>>376818597
No it stands for EXTERMINATE ALL

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>>376818056
that retard alone shouldve tanked sales

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>>376818056
It's missing the middle barrel

>>376818597
game is shit because EA fired all the talents and letting interns fresh out of college made their game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWp720-lLv8

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>>376818561
The kind of people who made this game don't know how guns work.

>>376819050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfLAh_OrTGc

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>>376818056
But it's still incorrect?

>>376818056
>they turned it the right way around
>the gun barrel is at the bottom and still makes zero sense
Why is it so hard for them to fix things?

>>376819427
They're incompetent.

>>376819584
This is beyond incompetence. It's like they're not even trying. Or that they're throwing a tantrum and merely 'fixing' it as some form of rebellion against all the criticism thrown their way.

>>376819185
Yeah but it's a fictional gun in a fictional world designed specifically at the studio. They fucked up their own asset. That's triply more embarrassing.

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>>376819427
Underbarrel guns are a thing. It helps reduce vertical recoil.

>>376819752
thats not even the entire gun. There should be a second barrel above the lower one and the very top part should come down and connect to the upper barrel part thats missing.

>>376819427
>Low bore axis
>makes zero sense

Maybe if you think it's a real life firearm firing conventional chemical cartridges, maybe.

>>376820035
>>376820143
Barrel below the trigger still doesn't make sense

>>376818056

> Fix the gun.

> Don't fix her face.

What's the point?

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I don't mind bugs or the animation

What I cant stand IS THE AWFUL WRITING

It's as funny as a heart attack and interesting as a brick wall

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>>376820035
But we know how the gun is supposed to look like.

>>376818056

Why on earth would you play an Andromeda with fixed animations?

That's half the fun.

>>376820260
I'm not covering for Blunderware's mistakes. Just saying underbarrel guns are a thing. The fact that they fucked up the modeling and positioning of a sci-fi gun they made up themselves is just unthinkable failure.

>>376818056

PB's derpy, ugly face is more offensive than the backwards gun.

>>376818056
Except the muzzle flash still doesnt come out of the barrel.

>>376820191
anything can make sense if it's in a setting where a blue alien is holding it

>>376818895
It's almost like the team making this game didn't care about depicting the world accurately as much as pushing their personal interests into it.

>>376820572
>there's no middle ground, if you have anything even slightly unfamiliar to the real world then it can go full on fantasy with complete disregard for any science and laws of physics and do whatever it wants
Technically, yeah, but that would make for a very boring and amateur sci fi world. Besides, ME1 already laid solid ground as to how firearms function with relation to mass effect tech. It's too late to disregard that without facing criticism.

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>>376818425
This.
That was supposed to be promotional material, for fucks sake. Nobody does incompetence quite like Bioware.

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>>376818885
I'll never get tired of this comic

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>>376820961
>ME1 already laid solid ground as to how firearms function with relation to mass effect tech.
>when they switched from a near unlimited resources to thermal clips

>>376821234
I mean that doesn't discredit his post considering that didn't happen until Mass Effect 2
And it's already been discussed at length how everyone thinks that was a retarded idea

>>376820236
I don't think any of those is unimportant. I played the game up til the point where you're almost captured by the Kett, but manage to escape by flying through the dark energy bullshit cloud. That's pretty much right after the first main mission of the game. And the animations, the bugs, and the writing are the three reasons why I dropped it.

The animation issues are a well-documented problem, but what the webms usually don't show is that it's not just a couple of big fuckups. It's a couple of big fuckups compounded by a million little fuckups. For example, one of the things that annoyed the crap out of me is that characters' hands are almost never animated in cutscenes, making everyone look like they've got plastic prosthetics.

The bugs are mostly harmless, until they're suddenly not. There's a lot of animation and AI glitches, NPCs popping through the floor, voices suddenly disappearing, and more minor stuff that's mildly annoying but never serious. And then you've got the parts where you've just finished watching a cutscene and the game doesn't come back. It's just the UI over a black screen and none of your buttons work anymore, which is fucking infuriating.

I'm not usually a guy who cares a lot about the writing, but it's still annoying as fuck how almost everything about the story has big holes into it or simply doesn't make sense. Things happen because they're convenient to the plot, not because they make any kind of internal sense. And that's not even bringing up the characters. I'd actually argue that most of them are pretty ok (apart from Peebee) personality-wise, but they way they're written into the story is mostly bullshit. Instead of letting a character's personality naturally show through their dialogue, it feels like the other way around: The dialogue's main purpose is to showcase the character's personality. It also doesn't help that the MC's constant wisecracking is grating as fuck.

>>376821234
Hence I said ME1. The odd thing about the thermal clips is that they could have been incorporated nicely but they just refused to do so. Just make the damned thing an optional way to instantly cool down your weapon instead of being pseudo ammo. Shit was fucking retarded the way they implemented it.

>>376818056
5 years of development and the give us... what they did

Theres gotta be alot of patching before that taste washes out of my mouth

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>>376818885
>PooBoo gets shotfrom the side
>Miranda is to the side, in a perfect position for that shot
>Garrus, who clearly stands behind her, was the one who fired
Bioware tier quality control

>>376821234
Andromeda has both, for some reason.

Most guns have the clip system by default, but you can upgrade them to make them switch back to the original overheating system.

>>376821570
It only makes sense if you can have both at the same time or only the original overheating system which you can then upgrade to be able to use thermal clips to instantly cool them down in a bind. How does Andromeda handle this?

>>376821234
To be honest, I started a new playthrough of mass effect 1 some time ago, and it really is a pain not being able to shoot continuously. The larger geth units have extremely powerful shields and they recover fully while I wait for my shitty gun to cool down.

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>>376818056
>>376818351
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>No one said "This time it's gotta be right, they've made fun of us all this time. Let's make sure everything is right."
Naw bruv, just flip the model that's obviously missing a piece.

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>>376821932

>That feel when your gun upgrades line up just right so you can shoot for about 5 minutes straight without your gun overheating.

>>376821932
It's been a long time but I know there was easy ways to bust shields in mass effect 1.

>>376821552
it was a really good shot

>>376818885
holy fuck im dead

>>376821420
The main thing that makes all of this so frustrating is that underneath all the bullshit is the potential for a great game. I understand all the fans that got buttmad because it's not Shepard vs the Reapers again, but frankly those fans are retards. The original trilogy is done, and tacking a new chapter on would be awful. Instead, Bioware took the setting and put it into a new environment with a new cast. This not only made things feel less stale, but also added elements of exploration and survival to the game which, if the game had actually been good, would have been a great asset. But of course, exploration is completely ruined by the fact that there are arbitrary "radiation zones" fucking everywhere that kill you in seconds, and more infuriatingly there are actual walls (not even invisible ones, but big glowing blue ones) blocking off the parts you're allowed to explore and blaring "RETURN TO MISSION ZONE" if you try to go past them. You just can't make garbage like this up, it's like a parody of how to not make an open world game.

This also shows in the gameplay. We've all come to grips a long time ago with the fact that Mass Effect is an action game, not an RPG. As an action game, it's the best Mass Effect yet. Shooting feels more satisfying than ever and simple additions like the jump pack make both exploring and fighting more fun and dynamic. The fact that it's so close to actually being good makes it all the more infuriating that it's the RPG elements that let the game down in this, with leveling up being dull as fuck and especially for your companions entirely brainless. Granted, that was never really ME's strength, but still. Most of the menus are designed by a literal retard who, if there is a God and He is benevolent, will never work in the games industry ever again. I mean I seriously cannot believe that someone designed the quest menu or the crafting menu and went "yes, this is exactly what I want it to be."

>>376821552
Andromeda has an ability that lets all your shots ricochet off any surface.

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>>376818885

>>376818056
I still can't comprehend how bad this game is.
How, why, what, just amazing such things can happen.

>>376822553

WHOM
AND YOUR GODDAMN FATHER
GODDAMN POETRY

>>376818885
>>376822553

these are too fucking rich.. nail on the head.

>>376822358
Not when your squadmates are eating the dust on the ground.

>>376822457
>The main thing that makes all of this so frustrating is that underneath all the bullshit is the potential for a great game.
Welcome to EA games and enjoy your stay.
>We've all come to grips a long time ago with the fact that Mass Effect is an action game, not an RPG.
We've all come to grips that Mass effect will never be good again.
>Most of the menus are designed by a literal retard
Did Andromeda have saved loadouts for different ability specs?

>>376818056
I like the original better because she's trying to kill herself in her to be free from the horrible game she's in.

>>376822553
They really need to make a comic taking the piss of the bloke holding the gun backwards and shooting herself.
Then Garrus shoots her a second time.

>>376822987
*order to be free

>>376822972
>Did Andromeda have saved loadouts for different ability specs?
Actually yes.

>>376822457
>We've all come to grips a long time ago with the fact that Mass Effect is an action game, not an RPG. As an action game, it's the best Mass Effect yet.
Honestly I feel that Andromeda is a huge step backwards in terms of power and gunplay. Only the sniper felt any good to use and the reast of the weapons may as well be pea shooters.
ME3 pretty much had the ideal gameplay n terms of shooting and powers.

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>>376822763
That was really when I realized what kind of writing we're working with here after your father who was, admittedly, the best written character in the game so, of course, Ryders have daddy issues with the guy. Not a single goddamn part of her introduction works or flows well together.

>>376823153
I kinda agree with this, but that's mostly because most weapons have shit for damage which is a balancing issue and not really a gameplay issue IMO. I played as a tech guy with a pistol and a sniper, and for both weapons I went for the types that are slow but have big damage, this made the gunplay feel pretty satisfying (for a ME game anyway) especially whith headshots.

Jumping into a combat situation and activating hover mode while popping Kett heads in mid-air was more fun than any combat situation in previous ME games.

>>376822972
>Did Andromeda have saved loadouts for different ability specs?

Yes. Thing is, you're still spreading the same amount of experience points around so you're simply not being as efficient as you could be if you dip into many abilities in order to mix and match loadouts. I also love how hidden respect console is and people I talked to about the game didn't even realize function was in the game.

>>376823379
Is there even an option to tell her to fuck off with that sudden hostility in the game? It'll be a long time before I become desperate enough to play this hunk a junk. In fact, I haven't seen examples of a renegade Ryder at all.

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>>376819385
>>376819427
>>376820191
here's why it's looking fucked up to you

>>376823542
No, because fuck choices. Removal of Paragon/Renegade just means you now choose the TONE of what you're saying. In fact I think there's less meaningful choices in the game overall. And of course, she's never wrong no matter how much she fucks up.

>dat feel when Andromeda loves to hate director Tann for absolutely no reason whatsoever
Hell, he's right almost all the time minus the Krogan "racism" going on.

>>376823745
What's going on there? The barrel disappears when you fire?

>>376823470
I suppose the Jump Jet really did add onto certain bits of the game but I never found my damage output going over a certain amount, even with weapons at the V level at the midgame.

>>376823781
>Removal of Paragon/Renegade just means you now choose the TONE of what you're saying.
Not that I think Andromeda's writing is any good, but Paragon/Renegade didn't really affect anything but tone and morality score in the original games except for heavily flagged decision making points.

>>376823925
They cut the front end off the model for some reason.

>>376823925
the round exploded in the muzzle and blew it off

>>376824073
Well I did only play the early game, so I suppose the problem becomes more pronounced when enemies start getting more health/shields/armor.

>>376823925
Look closer. The barrel didin't disappear when they turned the gun around. It wasn't even there in the original shot.

>>376823925
It was never a bug. They literally thought they could get away with having the gun model flipped so it looks like a completely new gun.

>>376823781

Well, if you remove choices it means that players can't make (((Problematic))) ones.

>>376823925

No it is camera clipping.

>>376824316
Camera clipping doesn't work that way. They simply cut up the model itself.

>>376824228
>>376824214
Well that just makes me mad. I was disappointed before and it's been funny shitting on the game, but this just angers me.

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>>376818056
Its far from fixed theres still a mongoloid holding the gun.

>>376823542
>I haven't seen examples of a renegade Ryder at all.
There is no renegade.

There are like 12 interrupts in the entire game and action on like, three of them have people call Ryder impulsive. That is as close as you get to renegade.
When peebee tackles you to the ground I figured the interrupt would throw her off me and put a gun to her head. Instead it's a "get off me" and some sexually implicit line.

Also, no matter how you try to play them Ryder will always come off as kind of childish. Nobody takes them seriously and they seem to be quite scientifically impaired. I suppose it's intentional but holy shit could they at least read.

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>>376818056
They already shit on the floor, spraying the shit pile with windex fixes nothing. If anything they should have left their magnificent mess completely untouched so future generations could see the full extent of how fucking horrid Andromeda was. Now there is less to laugh at and so the game just becomes even more depressing and hollow.

>>376824505
>can't even be renegade
But that was the best part of the entire ME trilogy.

>>376824201
A huge problem when you're fighting things with shields too. Only having three goddamn slots for your powers takes away your ability to deal with 90% of shit the game starts throwing at you around the half-way point.

>>376822892
You finish that game with all your squaddies dead even on hardest difficulty.

>>376824505
>Also, no matter how you try to play them Ryder will always come off as kind of childish. Nobody takes them seriously and they seem to be quite scientifically impaired. I suppose it's intentional but holy shit could they at least read.
It's definitely intentional. I just think this is Bioware's way to make Ryder look like more of a "fun" guy than the mostly serious Shepard. Which also explains all the one-liners and lame attempts at humor.

It's just that Bioware's writers are notoriously awful, so their attempts at making a character more fun end up making them childish and annoying.

>>376824843
The dialogue looks like a CW show or a Marvel flick, even during supposedly serious scenes, there's always those one liners that ruin the tension. Fuck Bioware

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>>376823379
>your father who was, admittedly, the best written character in the game

Jesus Christ, this. I was actually taking it seriously when he was getting the team ready for landing and just how dire this entire situation turned out to be.

>>376823542
You can never tell anyone to fuck off.
Your party members do stupid shit behind your back all the time and when it comes up you can only pick between a week ass joke comment and
>no problem we're FRIENDS

>>376824695
>Only having three goddamn slots for your powers takes away your ability to deal with 90% of shit the game starts throwing at you around the half-way point.
but, you can rotate loadouts, anon.

>>376825132
>>376823542
The whole "tone" thing also creates that awkward Fallout 4 situation where your responses at any given time amount to
>Fuck yes!
>Yes.
>Sarcastic yes.
>Yes sir.

You no longer decide what to say, you just get some minor input on how you want to say it.

>>376824505
My biggest problem with Andromeda. The protagonist is supposed to take on this highly regarded military and diplomatic position, and they're a fucking wimp no matter what. You choose a dialogue option that somewhat invokes a sense of authority and it's still mild and contained. Complete shit.

>>376825132
Keep in mind that I haven't played the game yet but do you get the feeling that the writers are afraid of 'offending' their own fictional characters or something? Because that seems to be the case from what I'm reading here.

>>376818885
>>376821552
jfk

>>376825257
>but, you can rotate loadouts, anon.
How? The game failes to explain how this shit works and even then it's only your load-out being changed.
That doesn't help at all when you have two absolutely retarded team mates.

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>>376825462
To be somewhat fair in that regard, you only end-up in charge of the mission because your dad chooses you to be.
Nobody thinks you are qualified to be the boss. Except for Liam.

That should change after you get the first settlement going, or after you recover more arks or after you make an alliance with another space faring species. But no, it doesn't change until the very end of the game.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5HF5-ehoxQ

>>376818056
PeePee's eyes look worse.

>>376822763
>WHOM
>AND YOUR GODDAMN FATHER
That really hammered home that they were painfully failing at aping Whedon

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>mfw there is barely any rule 34 for ME Adromeda

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>tfw still waiting for the Quarian DLC and the enchanced character creation they said was comming

It's not going to happen now is it bros?

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>>376825894
>Nobody thinks you are qualified to be the boss. Except for Liam.

>become boss of the Pathfinder team because of PLOT
>this is probably a shit idea, but dad said so
>Ryder: "All right, but only if Cora agrees."
>Cora: "Yeah I agree this is the best choice and I'll support you."
>one mission later
>Cora: "This isn't fair I was next in line to be the boss why don't I ever get what I want nobody takes me seriously!"
>mfw

>>376826109
No, it never was.
First of all, why would space gypsies be allowed on the Andromeda Initiative when they fucked up a planet and created the Geth?
Second of all, fuck you for wanting to create a character in an RPG.

>>376826382
The quality of writing we're up against here people.

I just want to say I find it hilarious how blatantly sequel-baity the ending of the game is.

>>376826051
It's frankly eerie at how well that indicates a game's longevity

>>376826428
>First of all, why would space gypsies be allowed on the Andromeda Initiative when they fucked up a planet and created the Geth?
They make mention at several points that there was a Quarian ship that was delayed for reasons I can't remember. The Quarians were also supposed to bring the other "missing" races like the Hanar and the Volus on their ship.

>>376826428
>First of all, why would space gypsies be allowed on the Andromeda Initiative

Because they were? they're a part of the ark carrying Hanar and Drell and besides that if you're exploring a new galaxy it would be a good idea to bring along the people that can build ships and weapons out of toasters and gum.

>fuck you for wanting to create a character in an RPG
>playing as the default
>ever

You're a complete and total faggot.

>>376826631
Leave the Hanar behind. Please.
Holy shit those things were unbearable.

>>376826596
I'm more amazed how none of the larger have commented on sub-par writing. They're still pretending Bioware are masters of their craft of something.

>>376826382
More evidence that there was absolutely no synergy between the writers, and that the QA team was passed out drunk after everyone failed to heed their advice, with maybe one member giggling to himself and seeing how bad he could let it get before someone called him out on it.

>>376826741
Prehaps it wasn't clear that the second option was a joke?

>>376818056
They shouldn't have had to fix it in the first fucking place.

>>376826631
>Volus
Why the fuck would Volus ride in someone else's ship? Unless they had an entire dedicated section just for them it'd make more sense to have their own ship with a suitable atmosphere.

>>376825524
I'm close to finishing it, and I get the same feeling.
>Peebee is so cool, you can't possibly be mad at her!
>Liam wants what's best for everyone, you can't tell him it won't work like that!

>>376826898
Don't worry about it. Andromeda bombed and there's never going to be a sequel. Try to just forget it happened.

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>>376826851
Well fuck me. Sorry anon. Put it down to autism or something.

>>376822553
>ashley isn't the one shooting
she has experience in protecting shepard from idiots

>>376826763
I figure that's more o do with denial, honestly.
Because Bioware once got KotOR a game that allowed you to kill your party that included a 12 year old kid, as well as Dragon Age Origins, they figure that it must still ave the same talent and skill as it always had.

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>>376818056
So they overlayed a new model on the original wrong one, plus they missed a barrel?

Here's hoping patch 1.07 can fix it.

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>>376826983
>mfw all the shills and shitposters kept insisting it was a financial success, yet refused to post sales figures

>>376818056
>dat feel when series is on hiatus

Holy shit, EA really did it.

>>376826947
Fuck. The writers are too autistic, they can't detach themselves from their fanfic at all. Jesus Christ.

>>376826947
Pretty much.
You done Peebee's personal quest you get a feel for how much the game is up it's own ass about the crew when only Liam is any good.

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>>376826860
>They shouldn't have had to fix it in the first fucking place.

So you've never made a mistake in your life? There's a reason pencils have erasers!

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>>376827135
You know EA would be be bragging like there's no tomorrow if the game did well. You saw the same shit with Inquisition.

>mfw EA spun the "high hours played mean the game is a success" story to their own shareholders to avoid revealing actual metrics

>>376826947
Liam was bland, but I can at least understand why someone would like him. He was a pretty chill guy.

How anyone thought Peebee was a good idea, I will never understand. He's like someone wanted to make another Liara (they have the exact same "Asari scientist who's investigating the main plot devide of the game" angle) except the face of Shrek, the mind of a six year old and the attention span of a chipmunk.

>>376827267
To continue your analogy, the mistakes made in Andromeda were the equivalent of forgetting to put lead in the pencil

>>376827319
They also massively overblew the launch sales, and were mysteriously silent over how well it did the weeks after

>>376827102
>>376823745

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>>376827147
>mfw people on the offocial boards are going "actually it's a good thing that the franchise is put on hold, this means they can focus extra hard on making the best DLC!"

>>376827668
Do they really not realise that also could mean that the DLCs are being put on hold? I've already accepted that they're blindly loyal but surely they're not THAT retarded.

>>376827853
>Do they really not realise
They're Bioware fans.

>>376827340
Anon, let's not kid ourselves with this.
The entire cast is basically an inversion of the ME1 crew.
In ME1 your Biotic was Kaiden, cool headed and reserved, trained in the use of his above-average powered biotics by an alien. Cora is the same story BUT she's a chick and her biotics give her super PMS, and is nowhere near as cool headed as Kaiden was.
Liam is your soldier and is generally unafraid of the new. In Crisis Response back on Earth he has a good grasp of many a situation even if he wears his heart on his sleeve a bit, he also advocates diplomacy over force without any negative feelings towards new species. More or less the exact opposite of Ashley, she was emotionally driven sure, but she didn't exactly like most aliens.
So-on and so-forth.

>>376818351
Nope, that's the wrong pistol

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>>376822553
>>376818885

>>376828167
I hadn't thought about it like that, but now that you mention it, it makes a lot of sense.

A lot of the characters feel like they took a ME1 character and then went "ok how can we make them different from the original?" instead of making actual original characters to begin with.

The worst part about the game for me were the companions. In Mass Effect I'll admit. The reason why I saw the series to its end and the reason why I'll still say baring the ending 3 was great is because. Much to my shame. I got so attached to the characters. The companions in Andromeda were boring and just plain, not to mention Ryder was shit. I felt like nothing I did made my Ryder different. He always comes off as an inexperienced snarky fuck boy and no one respects him. It's played for laughs but in reality is indicative of poor writing.

I can understand that tone being kept for the beginning. But once you make headway, maybe around the time of getting the alliance going then your Ryder should start being more assertive and in command. People should respect them more.


The only characters in andromeda that I liked were Liam and that's not saying much. He has pretty much no personality but he's at least a good guy. Drake is also ok but they tried to hard to make him like Wrex.

>>376818056
A buddy and I were talking about this earlier today. we were both huge ME fans eve at ME2.

I told him this was clearly a wait and see situation originally and that now I would be waiting for a $5 discount bin buy. He pre-ordered and felt like an idiot.

He did say at least they patched the graphics and that's when I told him that I knew it was a game that can't be redeemed. The people defending it literally only have the point to argue that they patched some impossibly bad graphics, they aren't saying "who cares about the graphics the gameplay is fun" or "the story is deep, compelling, interesting, fun" the ONLY point for it is they patched their massive graphics errors.

>>376828563
>>376823745

>>376827267
There's a difference between misspelling a few words in a 2500 word essay and writing a 2500 word essay that not only has nothing to do with the subject but somehow has MORE spelling/grammar mistakes in the final draft than in the rough copy.

>>376827102
>new model
Nope. They've been using the wrong one the whole time.

>>376828595
Biggest disappointment was how blatant this was.
Anybody that has played the first Mass Effect should pick up on this around the time you meet Vetra. Not because she's a Turian but because I swear to whatever God exists that she's literally meant to be Garrus but female and a criminal.

Honestly /v/ what the fuck happened? How could Bioware have pushed this shit out?

>>376828992
>How could a bunch of amateur devs with an agenda have pushed this shit out?
FTFY

>>376828992
Considering they pushed out ME3, DA2 and DA:I before this, I don't understand how you could possibly be surprised.

>>376828697
>IP declined with each release
>3rd game was so bad as a whole EA was voted worst company in America, a no return policy was repealed and lawsuits were filed
>New story in the same IP announced
>Dev team filled with possibly skilled but inexperienced staff
>Inexperienced staff even if skilled wont be able to produce quality work in a timely manner

Anyone that didn't think this was cashgrab from the start deserves to have their money stolen. Anyone that still bought it after game footage was released deserves to have their money stolen.

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>>376823745
They fucked up, again.

>>376818056
Won't lie, it doesn't seem that great either...

>>376821552
Garrus circled around behind her so he could get an easy double tap into centre mass.

>>376828992
Say it with me now:
Diversity Hires!

Rather than taking on people with experience, skill and creativity or even the qualifications (seriously the lead animator was a fucking cosplayer), they hired people that dye their hair blue, talk about the patriarchy and rant about how physically attractive people are evil unless they like minge.
Look at the staff and you'll see that all the people that are meant to be the directors or people actually keeping some level of quality control are dreadfully under-qualified.

>>376823745
>>376824228
I don't get it, why not just give her the normal gun? What's the context of the scene to require a brand "new" model for the occasion?

>>376829361
She's a unique snowflake so she needs a unique gun.

I dunno.

>>376823745
>*slices gun in half with katana*
>heh...nothing personnel, kid

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>want to play lego?

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>>376818056
Okay I think I understand what happened here.

Originally someone had an idea for how they wanted this gun holding shot framed; however the weapon that was being used was just a bit too long to make the shot work as they had hoped, so instead of repositioning a camera to work with the items given in that scene, someone decided it would be quicker and easier to just slice part of the weapon off that was in front of the Asari's face, in this scenario though because of the initial fuck up of having the gun the wrong way around, they instead lopped off the front of the gun.

Skip ahead to the recent updates and the same team is now told that they need to turn this gun around, so they do so. The shot still works because the gun is still a fraction shorter than the normal weapon and the thing gets the OK and they send it out in the next patch without anyone calling it out.

Its a whole series of fuck ups that lead to this mistake, its actually quite astounding to think how little QA was put into it, or even just anyone on board at Bioware who really cared about the history and technology within the world they created. I can see why Mass Effect fans were disappointed but they really must have known what they were getting themselves into.

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>>376829470
*eats your cereal*

>>376825917
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>376829629
I like to think that it wasn't entirely a malicious act but just that Cerberus pay is so shit he has to procure food on site

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You have no idea how much it depresses me that the two biggest flagship developers of modern Western RPGs are Bioware and Bethesda.

>>376829854
It's just the stagnancy of the industry.
In about two years it'll either tank again or it'll undergo a Renascence and people will begin making RPGs good again because fresh talent will arrive.

For good or ill, the gaming industry in the west will undergo a transformation. I just hpe the games will be good.

>>376830215
People have been saying that for more than a decade now.

I don't believe it.

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>>376830215
I think it has more to do with the fact that some studios are definitely on their way out. Bioware has lived on EA's budget and past reputation for years now making nothing but forgettable or bad games. New kids on the block for RPGs are generally indies or mid-size studios.

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>ME3 was supposed to save the series, return to the roots
>fuck it up so bad the whole franchise has been put 'on ice'

Is this what happens when developers take the diversity meme unironically, and hire programmers for their skin colour/genitalia instead of their ability/education?

>>376830215
>Renascence

How do you fuck up a word that bad when the internet exists?

>>376822420
nope anon, she's dead

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>>376830543
Correct.

>>376830349
Well it's either that or like >>376830505 said it's just time to put some companies out to pasture.

>>376830505
>New kids on the block for RPGs are generally indies or mid-size studios.

problem is those will forever stay where they are because the public can't latch onto them. they need graphics and production values people have become accustomed and don't really understand why roleplaying game typically have different priorities during development.

>>376830578
My computer has some fucked up auto-correct shit.
I can't disable it.

>>376818056
Why fix it?

I'm waiting for it to drop in price so that I can play it with retarded models and animations.

It just seems so funny

>>376818056
she still looks like a tranny and that is the primary issue

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>>376823745
>cut content

>>376830815
i just looked it up. You're actually right and i'm the retard. I should apply to BioWare.

>>376818056
shrek is still the same though

>>376823745

HOW CAN THEY KEEP FUCKING UP!

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>>376821092
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH

>>376830765
Fuck the mainstream public, though. They did nothing but harm RPGs in the long run.

>dat feel when RPG is one of the few genres where advancement of technology actively detracted more than it helped
I sure love having to waste all the money on mandatory full VA while balancing it with insane open world design and graphics. Only studio that has actually pulled this off well has been CDPR and that was due to Polish wages.

That doesn't look better at all.

>>376820383
They didn't make it. The talented guys that quit/were fired during the original trilogy made it.

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people are paying 6 figure salaries for this shit

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>>376821092
>promotional material

Bioware's promo material has been a joke since forever.

>>376829361
>>376829470
>>376823925
>>376830967
>>376831108


i guess they realized they fucked up putting the gun backwards, but putting it correctly made the shot appear as if it was shot from inside the gun, so they cut up the model

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>>376831167
SOMEBODY

>>376821552
Glad I'm not the only one who realized this. We can all be autistic together in noticing such a disturbing detail.

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>>376831293

>>376828992
"Bioware" isn't one studio. This was Bioware Montreal's first (and last) game. They were a support studio to work on DLC before Andromeda, and now are again.

>>376831293
what happens when the character model is tied to animations, you made the game with a small sized woman in mind and then you need to put a normal sized man on it

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>>376831525
It was so brave and thoughtful of them to animate and release their game entirely around World Downs Syndrome Awareness day

>>376821092
every time i see this its always genuinely disturbing to me

repulsive, and unsettling.

>>376831293
Imma just go a head and say that the appearance of Scott was deliberate to make him look younger and more inexperienced.

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I just realized that I'm yet to see a SINGLE THREAD actually discuss this game's story or characters rather than mock it to hell and back.

>>376831665
We've actually done that earlier in the thread.
It's one huge swing and a miss.

>>376831580
Would you say it baffles you?

>>376831294
As bad as ME:A is, at least it's not as bad as DA2 was.

>>376831665
Because there's really nothing memorable to discuss.

>game is supposedly about settling new worlds and finding your place in the this new galaxy
>you can skip 80% of that and just finish a very short story

Andromeda is a game where meat of the game should've been all the shit they relegated to optional content.

>>376823379
>your father who was, admittedly, the best written character in the game
Really? All I really remember about him from the intro was wondering why we had to set down on the deathtrap planet on foot instead of sending a probe or something.

>>376831525
>what am i doing here
>oh yeah, i'm the pathfinder
>i wonder when i'll get back to my legos

>>376820938

Gun needs to be facing the other way.

>>376831294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kiosw0YYBlc

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>>376824505
Haven't gotten that far, but I thought the interrupts felt weirdly sparse.

No random chance to throw someone out a window in Andromeda?

>>376832052
>No random chance to throw someone out a window in Andromeda?
No.
If you're playing a male Ryder you do get an interrupt to hug your sister.

>>376831520
I feel sorry or them going from support to having to shoulder their next big stage of the franchise.

>>376832204
Shame. I actually kind of liked that the interrupt was more specific about what it would actually do.

Odd that they don't actually utilize it much.

>>376831665
Wanna talk about it anon?
Literally the last hour or so of the game is the only noteworthy part.
Never pissing mind how enemy factions are just a repeat of the last game, the crew members are just the inverted members of the ME1 crew etc.

>>376831791
Except they made the optional content so goddamn mind-numbing it's pointless. Each time you look at a new planet you're given the same cutscene.

What an embarrassment.

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>>376818056
I'm actually trying to give the game a solid chance. Shooting's decent, and the environments look alright, but driving around mopping up random side-quests in the barren wasteland is really wearing on me.

>>376829854
Ah but that's where you are wrong you ugly little bitch. Todd actually makes good games.
Don't believe me? Just see for yourself right now by buying Skyrim Special Edition.

>>376831769
Wrong. DA2 was shit, but ME:A was worse. The story in 2 was actually great, it was just the jacked up ANOTHER WAVE gameplay in copypasted environments. It looked like shit compared to DA1. As bad an abortion as ME3 was, ME:A managed to be worse than that.

>>376832808
>The story in 2 was actually great

That's stretching it. The setting was good, but the actual narrative fell apart without any real thematic resolution.

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>>376823745
>Some bioware employee never finished the gun model
>Flips it around to hide their mistake
>Nobody notices
>Crisis averted
>Game releases
>Gun backwards shitstorm
>Several patches later gun gets flipped back into normal position
>Unfinished work is revealed
>Shitstorm 2.0
You can't make this shit up

>>376832808
The story in 2 was garbage. What the fuck are you smoking?

>>376833038
It's worse, the flipped gun model was in preview footage and people noticed immediately.

>>376833069
nostalgia.

>>376832357
It's because they couldn't think f situations where Ryder would take control of the situation or steer a conversation or shoot somebody that stands atop a stupidly explosive substance.
Really a problem with Ryder is how childish they come across as.

>>376833110
Well the public yeah but did anyone at Bioware notice?

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And people complained about James Vega looking like a man in ME3. Least he looked human, unlike the abominations in Andromeda.

>>376833365
Vega looked great.

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>>376833365
I thought it was some gay-sex on preview.

>>376833447
Not according to a lot of /v/irgins, though the only person who ever elaborated said he looks like a Neanderthal, so apparently men who look like men are brutish cavemen.

>>376823745
>Sawed Off Pistol
for what purpose?

>>376833668
How, he looks like a guy that likes to bench-press a little much. Otherwise he looks like he has the body you'd expect on a soldier.

>>376818895
>>376831525
These are similar

>>376833702
better spread

I feel like this was the first game where everyone agreed that all the characters look ugly as fuck. Turns out that you can't always wave off bad character models with "well it's realistic women and not your fantasy pretty girls"

>>376823745
unbelievable. bioware does it again.

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>>376818885
fuck I just read this and I died.

Can someone post John C Reilly Peebee?
I wanna laff

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>>376833787
The most complaining is about his face. "Heavy eyebrows" mainly.

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>>376821092

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>>376833227
I guess I can appreciate that Ryder's meant to be someone in over their head rather than be another experienced veteran.

But I really miss Shepard and the distinct options to be compassionate, pragmatic, or a genocidal asshat.

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>>376831378
But it was cut off in the original shot as well. See how the specific piece in red isn't either the new shot or the old one.

>>376833954
Probably.
But I feel that was really just an excuse for the animators to be lazy.

It worked for the aliens but not humans.

>>376834050
I don't see it.

>>376834119
>I guess I can appreciate that Ryder's meant to be someone in over their head rather than be another experienced veteran.
Yeah but there is only so much that could be allowed. Like, sure you don't have a lot of time but fucking hell some on-the-job training from Cora who should have the relevant training wouldn't have been hard to write in.
Being in over your head isn't an excuse to say "oh, I guess we need to give you all this shit to do whatever you want with because" because Ryder would be subject to a fuck-ton of training and tests.
At the very least they'd be given a list of protocol and a briefing of exactly what their job is because you're really not told the ins and outs of it.
Even dismissing how everybody dismisses you as a child.

Shepard will always hold a place in my heart for being a professional. Any personality or disposition, Shepard was always a professional.

>>376834339
Me neither, but many /v/irgins have a problem with James looking manly.

>>376822219
>not putting as many damage mods on as possible
>not putting on overheated ammo as well
>not being able to fire one shot that kills anything no matter how large it is that instantly puts your gun in cooldown

>>376835158
Whats the deal with virginity?

>>376823379
>>376825124
No he really wasn't, Your Father was a stubborn idiot.

>>376824396

no it does, it does

>>376823781
>Krogan "racism"
And that's just Tann's personal opinion.
He works with Kesh just fine despite that.

>b-but he fucked the Krogan over
That's all Spender's fault.

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I really miss the second class races from the original trilogy. So far the Kett are basically Vorcha tier but less vocal at this point.

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Was this one fixed?

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>>376834831
>Shepard was always a professional.
Or at the very least entertaining.

>>376824665
Renegade become trash after first game anyway

>>376818056
Too little, too late.

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>>376836130
>If you've heard of it it's already too mainstream for me

It's time to remember a better game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4

>>376836106
Why would someone release this and expect to get paid for it

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>>376835254
/v/irgins dislike things that are more attractive than they are.

Sound familiar?

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>>376836323
>I have nothing more to say to you!
>How about, goodbye?
So good.

>>376818561
They're only human, afterall

>>376836323
Damn, I forgot how much of a badass Shepard was.

>>376834197
Ok, so... they saw the scene, noticed the gun missed a piece for some reason, so they covered it up by reversing the gun's direction, but since people complained about that they decided the broken side was good enough?

>>376836323
Fuck I forgot how fun Renegade Shepard was.

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>>376836323
>I busted my ass getting this, why should I give it to you?
>I'll pay you a lot of money
>Ok

>>376836323
>ME2
>Better
Come on, they both are piles of shit

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>>376836323
>That may go down in history as the shorted interrogation ever.
Loved that bit. It's hilarious that you can go through the full formal song and dance about what he knows or just Renegade Interrupt it to get an answer on the first shot.

>>376836880
It was Bioware being Bioware. Fucking up is the only thing they know how to do well.

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>>376831525

>>376836532
But they did get paid for it so I guess your expectations are overrated.

>>376836323
>you're working too hard
>WHOOOOOAOAOAOOAOAOAOAOA
Renegade Shepard is the only right way to play.

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>>376836030
>the original trilogy
>So far the Kett are basically Vorcha tier but less vocal at this point.

Thinks there will be more games in the series.
They dont know yet.

>>376826761
This one thinks you're wrong.

>>376826051
Is it greater or less than Battleborn? I'm gonna bother looking for it.

>>376837490
Well this one says fuck off.

>>376818056
that was already fixed in the first patch faggot

>>376836323
>Two Krogan bodyguards
>All you have is a pistol
>They go down completely in a couple of shots like Asari squishies

I really don't like it when games do this kind of stuff in cutscenes.

>>376837473
Was mainly referring to how I'm not finished with Andromeda yet. I already heard that EA's putting things on ice.

>>376836106
Yes.

>>376837703
It's still not enough.

Only ME is being put on ice, Bioware as a whole needs to die.

>>376836323
>:0
hahahaha

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>>376822553
>>376818885
Ok this are actually pretty funny

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>>376823745
fucking hell

>>376818056
somehow the front of the gun looks even worse. no wonder they put it backwards.

>>376831887
> All I really remember about him from the intro was wondering why we had to set down on the deathtrap planet on foot instead of sending a probe or something.

Because we wouldn't have a game otherwise, sadly. He should've been the MC.

>>376838595
No, he shouldn't have.

All of the Ryder Clan were shit.

>>376823745
kek and she don't even use a carnifex ingame

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>It was reversed because they didn't model the front.

>Instead of putting in the effort of remodeling it they just swapped it back over.

jesus christ

>Mass Effect will never be given to a more competent developer
What a shame.

>>376832016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yTVjUY9wMg
Got gems like this out of it

>>376827147
>implying thats a surprise
They have the Star Wars license now. Why bother spending a bunch of money on off-brand star wars when they could make an actual star wars game that has much broader appeal?

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>>376818885
SCOPED
AND
DROPPED

>>376836323
Mark Meer does wonders when he's given some breathing room

>>376818056
But her face still looks retarded?

>>376833365
Jaime Burger?

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>>376825917

Fuck man. I wasn't gonna ouch any Bioware after Dragonage 2, especially after the doctors left, but that is quite simply embarrassing.

RIP in peace.

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>>376822553
>>376818885
>that copypasted garrus

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>>376818056
Too late, my dude

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>>376823745
looks like gun came too close to "camera" and parts of it were cut off so it won't glitch.

they actually put the gun backwards on purpose.

>>376831641
Anon there's a difference between 'younger and inexperienced' and 'crawled out during nap time when the teacher wasn't looking, climbed the preschool fence and found himself in charge of an expedition colony'

What if they intentionally made Andromeda bad to make ME3 look better?

>>376826989
It's ok man, happens to us all

>>376837319
Why is it in all these videos, there's only one clown-faced bitch?

>>376845093
Looks like it worked. I can't believe i subjected myself to 30 hours of Andromeda. I felt raped afterwards.

>>376823745
is her face slightly different too?

>>376822553
Hah look at me, i am hating mass effect andromeda too, haha isant that fun? that is hilarious vote drumbf by the way haha, look at me
>haa
FUCK OFF ALREADY WOULD YA ?

>>376831938
I think the point is that she originally pointed the gun at herself

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>>376823745
>They fixed it.

>>376846839
wowee
didnt know you could do this

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@376847126

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>>376826596
...you played this?

>>376823745
WHYYY does she look like a fucking Neanderthal??

>>376822457
So, it would be better as an FPS or action game with simple RPG elements?

>>376834050
>eyebrows
I only see one

>>376821092
>Bioware
You mean EA. Bioware is just the name of the skinsuit that EA is currently wearing.

>>376848490

Go back to where ever you came from

>>376847126
wew kid maybe take a break from the internet for a little bit

Game as 30% price drop during this weekend on ps4 psn, I always thought I would purchase it when there's a sale... and I'm just not feeling it.
Nah, fuck this game.

>>376833251
lmao of course not
do you think anyone at bioware knows anything about mass effect?

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>>376818056

Looks like they fixed her as well

>>376818885
>Miranda instead of Thane
Shit taste

>>376840638
That would be fucking bizarre though, because the complete Carnifex model is seen lots of times elsewhere in the game, both as something you can equip and during cutscenes. There's zero reason for this chopped up one to exist, other than the retard on the art team thinking the back was the front and having to chop a bit out to stop it clipping through PooPoo's arm.

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>>376840638
Also, that's an M-77 Paladin, not a Carnifex.

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>>376818885
>>376822553
omfg i'm in tears

>>376835216
>Infiltrator with IX High Explosive on sniper rifle
>Shooting Geth destroyers off of the Presidium tower and straight into fucking space with one shot

Fuck I need another playthrough

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>>376823745
>fix
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

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>>376828992
They gave mass effect to a dev team that had only ever done the multiplayer client for Mass Effect 3. And to their credit, Andromeda had the best combat in the entire series by a large margin.

The problem was that people dont play Mass Effect for the combat.

>>376854924
>these folder icons
This UI is so shitty.

>>376854924
Andromeda's combat is garbage compared to ME3's.

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>>376855119
You should see the crafting UI, it is menus upon menus upon menus upon menus

>>376825124
>Once the ship went to the nexus and the people were safe, the pathfinders job was to find a new planet.
>Instead of getting to nexus HEY LET'S EXPLORE THAT TOTALLY DANGEROUS PLANET THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS OK TO LIVE 600 FUCKING YEARS AGO.
>Oh fuck I'm dying, let's give my pathfinder title to my son/daughter when I don't have any right to name another pathfinder myself
>best written character

The writting on that game was horrible but thinking that the father was well written....come on.

>>376818056
How do they manage to make her look more like Shrek than before?

>>376823745
To be fair, you can see the model in the original version is fucked up and missing half the shit too.

>>376847126
Are you the faggot I met earlier today on /Pol/ when I was on a shitposting spree about Slavs?

>>376855198
its the same shit

>>376820787
I'd blame it on inexperience sooner than on them straight up not caring.

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>>376831665
what story and characters ?

>>376855274
And when THAT is your best written character, it speaks volumes for how shit everyone else in the game is.

That's the worst gun design ever. Why do sci-fi retards think it would be better to make a gun retarded shapes over what we have now just because it's futuristic.