What went wrong?

>>376807934
everything

Square Enix.

SE kikery

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>>376807934
Nothing.

>>376808087
>>376808113
>>376807995
These
Would've helped if Canadian devs didnt insist on inserting sjw bs into everything when its not needed.
>So we heard everyone loves niggers, have more niggers, niggers for days.

>>376807934
cutting out parts of the game and selling it back as DLC and also just leaving alot of it on the cutting room floor

>>376808128
This

the game is good - but it's too short.

Blame squenix and their jewery.

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>>376808326
>but it's too short.

Took me 25 hours to beat, I wouldn't consider this short, easily longer than HR.

>>376808128
that looks alright

is this game alright if i wanna stooge around in comfy cities for a bit

>DUDE LETS MAKE A CYBERPUNK GAME ABOUT BLACK LIVES MATTER, KIDS LOVE THAT RIGHT?

>>376808128

>no single keybind for hiding the HUD

Having to enter the options, turning all that shit off, just to take a decent screenshot pissed me off so much.

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>>376808467
You will cream your pants.
Only other game that comes close to this feel is VTMB.

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>>376807934
Missing half the story in a story heavy game franchise

>>376807934
Nothing. Much like Dishonored 2 it's a very decent job (aside for the shortened story).
But when you're an AAA game that costs 60 bucks, any drawback or slightly unenthusiastic word of mouth is enough to stop most players from buying your game and shit on it irrationally.
Plus, it couldn't possibly recreate the good surprise that HR was.

But it is honestly I good game that I enjoy. I finished it 5 times and I intend on playing it again this summer.

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>>376808570
>no playing with HUD on

What do you need it for?
Do you forget your key bindins constantly or are you unable to navigate without minimap?

Square Enix demanding they split what should have been one or two games into three.

The story is stretched out and you're always feeling like you're just about to get into it proper, which is a shame because its otherwise a straight upgrade from Human Revolution.

>>376808574
little do devs know, this is all is takes for me to buy their game

Breach mode and its microtransactions galore.

>>376808424
>>Took me 25 hours to beat, I wouldn't consider this short, easily longer than HR.

Just because you autistically squatted in Prague it doesn't make it "longer" or better than HR.

It most likely baffling nu-DE fans as they see nothing wrong with MD but this game feels like a spin-off DLC story and not a real Deus Ex game. Everything is extremely disconnected from the main events and it feels like a prologue to the real game. And since we have no real game after MD, it's more like a spin-off to the DE story.

HR was done right because Adam was in center of very important events and could could influence them.

>>376808424
The thing is I also took my time to beat it, because prague was quite comfy and well structured.

But if you ignore all the secondary missions it is indeed quite short. Storywise it feels like you accomplished 2-3 missions of the original game.

>>376808525
The game is about Jim Crow or apartheid, not black lives matter. But it's a stupid analogy because augs can always have their augments removed. They chose to get augmemted, they weren't born cyborgs.

One hub
Less side missions
1 boss
Main story is like 5 hours of content

Waste if 60 bucks

>>376807934
Nothing. Took me longer to beat then HR and was better the entire way through. SE needs to fuck off though.

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>>376808891
>Just because you autistically squatted in Prague it doesn't make it "longer" or better than HR

I've played it just like I've played HR, which I finished in 20 hours exploring every corner of the map.

>But if you ignore all the secondary missions
Why would you ignore game content and then bitch about length?
Quite irrational behaviour.
Why do people rush through the main story instead of enjoying the highly detailed hubs which have enviormental storytelling hidden?

>>376808937
It only goes so far though. Like, a lot of them would have to become cripples to fit into society and then they'd have to deal with that stigma. Its a choice between being disabled or being a 2nd class citizen.

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>>376809086
Meant to additionally quote
>>376808916

>>376809086
You are quite confused, anon.
Read the posts carefully again.

>>376808937
>They chose to get augmemted, they weren't born cyborgs
This is a valid argument and is brought up in the game.
>augs can always have their augments removed
Not arm, leg, lung, heart augs etc. like Jensen has. Also, why should they?

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>when you fucking loved MD and wanted to see what would happen in its sequel

>>376807934
Nothing except less world wide travel.

>>376809086
>>376809149
I didn't rush through the game, did you read the whole post?

Most of the game is padding.
Good padding nonetheless, but the main story is too weak.
The game may have the better gameplay in the franchise, but the story is short and not satisfactory. You cannot defend this.

>>376809086
>highly detailed hubs

There's only 1

Anyone who said that doing everything in HR takes less time than doing everything in MD is a flat out lying. The former has more hubs, longer main story, more bosses, more side missions and more NPC's to interact with.

>>376809097
Maybe, but it's a choice. My point is that their condition and status as augmented transhumans can change.

>>376809424
Its a pretty bad choice. I don't know if I'd like to suddenly become physically dependent on the people who decided to take away my human rights and wished I would die.

>>376809086

>hubs

Hub. Singular.

There is no other hub besides Prague.

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>>376809372
Who cares about main story when you can spend quality time solving murder cases investigate drug labs, breaking into people's homes and overall playing cyber batman?
There's just so much to do and discover, I have forgotten the main quest.

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>>376809504
I consider Golem city a hub.

>>376809584

>Golem city
>a hub

You literally go there for one of the main story missions and then you can never ever go back to it.

>>376809528
Because nobody pays 60 bucks to only do side missions

>>376809086
It's like saying that Fallout 3 is a good game because you played it for the same amount of time or even more than Fallout 1 & 2 and because some of side quests were fine it makes a garbage main story good as well.

No it doesn't make it any good.
Deus Ex is known for some crazy conspiracies, grand schemes and huge events across the globe and JC or Adam can be a part of it, they can change it or at least try to do that.
MD does nothing of that, you were demoted to be a mere cop who investigates a terrorist act instead of investigating some Versalife, Illuminati or Majestic 12 shit.
And even then the story in MD and its characters are both dull and uninteresting.

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>>376808937
>They chose to get augmemted
This is literaly countered by the protagonist's storyline and the "I never asked for this" memeline.
Jesus.
No.
In the DE universe, before the Aug incident, loads of blokes did not actively choose to get augmented.
Also >>376808525 is a retard.

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>>376809528
>Who cares about main story
You play Deus Ex game, you fucking faggot, not your Bioware or Bethesda's trash.

EVERYONE cares about the main story in Deus Ex.

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>>376809194
I'm just saying that punishing someone for having artificial limbs is silly.

>Not arm, leg, lung, heart augs etc. like Jensen has. Also, why should they?

During Jim Crow, in most cases, if a black person could just stop being black, they would. But most blacks don't have that option because you had to seriously pass for white in order to do that.

In this game, you can always remove an augmented leg or arm. If you have an augmented heart, well nobody can see that, can they?

Another option would be to have augments that look like natural limbs. Like, in i-robot, will smith's character had major bionic alterations, but they looked mostly natural until he takes off his shirt and you can see his surgical scars.

A follow-up to that movie would pull off what they attempted to do in MD because the robots can't change their status as machines.

>>376807934
I still don't know why I played through the new game +

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>>376809937
I've played the original when it came out, I didn't care much about the story but more about fucking around with the game mechanics and exploring the enviroment.
This game lets me do extaclty that.

>>376809895
Jensen is the exception, not the rule. Most augments chose to be augmented to gain advantages or keep up in their jobs and such. Like that one woman that was a serial killer, she chose to get augmented to fit in better.

It still hurts
Fuck SE because we only got half the game we deserve

>>376810119
Have fun exploring (ONE) 1 hub

>>376810067
Damn, that movie was garbage. It felt likea two hours long advertisement for Audi.

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>>376810253
It's huge, with underground parts and lots of verticallity.
The bank alone could be considered an entire hub.

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>>376807934
Who was the best girl and why is it Eternity?

>>376810341
I had so much fun robbing this shit.
Going against the cultist is so much less fun.

>>376810268
I read a write-up on it. The movie is actually based on a different novel instead of I-Robot but they decided to call it I-Robot because that's a title that everyone knows. Asimov's robots wouldn't behave that way.

Yeah, it felt like an Audi commercial... but it was a nice car.

>>376807934
Denuvo

The game stopped getting threads after like three days

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>>376810430
Only correct answer.
And I mean the "real" one, not the soulles copy.

How in the world did augs become such a big political deal? I know I'm supposed to suspend my disbelief, but people fucking RIOTING because of prosthetic arms is so ridiculously unreal.

>>376810481

>It felt like an Audi commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HpIZrOH4zc

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Not sure why people are salty about the single hub. It bigger and has more content than the hubs in previous games and you actually get to see how it changes over time. Its not like its worse, just different to previous games.

>>376810067
The original DX had new "nanoaugmentations" that JC Denton and his brother were fitted with - these didn't deform physical appearance at all. One of the game's themes was how the UNATCO agents who were mechanically augmented (the type of augs seen in HR and MD) felt like they'd be obselete hunks of scrap metal to be replaced by people with nanoaugs. That is where the current DX games should lead, if they continue - nanoaugs. It's much more clever than the preachy, politically correct themes about social issues surrounding augs seen in MD.

>>376810581
Its pretty powerful combo when the few people that bought the game say its not worth the money and pirates either shit on it or say nothing while waiting for a crack.

>>376809528
Most of us cares because, unlike you said here >>376810119, the point in deus ex was never doing shit around for the giggles.

I had fun with MD and good for you that you are satisfied, but this isn't what people expected, and shouldn't be.

World design is not everything in something born as a story driven adventure.

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>>376807934
>What went wrong?
EVERYTHING!!

>Game was too short and felt like it was cut in pieces with a stupid open end.
>Final game boss was cliche ''Ohh look a europoor/rusky badguy''
>No memorable characters,no Malik
>No romance or character relationship building especially with that tight piece of ass Aria
>Jewish trickery with DLC day one
>Jewish trickery with perishable DLC augment points/skins/guns

I can go on all day OP.

>>376808883
>Breach mode and its microtransactions galore.
So much this.

Breach mode sucked so much life out of the main game. It wasn't even enjoyable with how hard they try to sell you on paid upgrades. The "cheats" you get by playing are weak nonsense in comparison. Then you have the bosses later on that can only be touched with shitloads of specialty ammo that you can only acquire in volume for $19.99 + tax + tip + s&h + pepperoni.

The main game had a hub and a quarter that provided most of the play with explorations. The away missions didn't amount to five hours of play or deliver much of anything in terms of story.

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>>376810469
This safe was neat.

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>>376807934
>Execs want a "series"
>force the game to be cut apart with no feeling of continuity

>game gets blamed for no content because all manpower went into side missions and DLC
>sells "poorly"
>"Welp, no interest in DX games, no future games"-SE exec and complete idiot

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>>376810881
RTR TTR my dude

>>376811138
My biggest issue is jensen stories. Why not have them seamlessly integrated into the main story> why nit give me the ability to roam around Prague after the credits and do the dlc missions using my technogod jensen?

>>376808128
Game's soundtrack is very underrated

>multiple layers
>changes depending on the situation
>that god-tier night Prague music

https://youtu.be/2w-KTzOVJG4

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>>376810430
You're fuckin wrong m8

>>376812438
Poor girl. Ventilating Dr Pajeet's head was very satisfying.

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>>376807934
Missing half of the story, other than that not much, its still a great game if you like this theme, just started my second playtrough yesterday and I think I will play it 3rd time too with different playstyle.

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>>376810430

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>>376813787
Also we should do a petition to make a free dlc that finishes the story...

>>376814320
>Epstein

I added her to the list of casualties by tragic accidents.

>>376814639
>petition
>for free content
>from SE
>for franchice they put on ice due to low sales

It would be easier to achieve peace in the middle east.

>>376814639
The story was stopping the terrorists. Mission accomplished. Now wait for the next installment

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>>376815118
>next installment
Yeah...about that...

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Honestly? It's just unfinished. Prague is a nice city hub and the side quests are great. The game also feels more enjoyable to play over Human Revolution.

Where it falls down is the main story. Every main story mission (except for Golem City) is just embarrassing to play through and half assed. You simply couldn't care less about the main story characters either. If you focus solely on the main story you can finish the game in 5 hours flat while listening to every line of dialogue related to it as well. You take your time exploring Prague and doing the side quests you'll have a better time overall.

It's a shame they didn't make Golem City into a hub as that may have actually saved the game.

Didn't think much of the music either but graphically it really excels in some areas.

It was shit and had all the fun guns removed from it. Not to mention you cant even join any other faction, even fucking invisible war had more actual roleplaying.

I'm guessing this isn't even worth buying at $17?

Not until they put some GOTY version with all the DLC on sale?

>>376816160
Stay out of the NSFW boards you autistic faggot.

>>376807934
The main story is blatantly unfinished, not much wrong other than that

It's very forgettable
Stays too much in Prague when Deus Ex was always about traveling all over the place
Cinematic takedowns are still cancer
Every single door has a shitty hacking lock to it
Awful story and wonky racism parallel, and characters are all boring as shit
Still gives XP reward you for killing or knocking out enemies which means it punishes people who don't want to engage and just sneak past enemies
Also giving exp for hacking is still retarded, those Human Revolution series scream instant gratification really

Nevermind this game feeling unfinished shit, the part of the game that is in is hardly remarkable. Also they're writing themselves into a corner by staying with Jensen and going into Bob Page's and Manderley's story. Spoiler alert: we fucking know those guys are alive and kicking in JC's time, so at best Jensen can make them have a little setback, there's no good conclusion from staying in that story. Should've gone with new settings really, like a side story in the nanoaug era.

Not enough cyberpunk, too much grey, flat, eastern bloc shit. Golem City was great, Prague was only decent at night.

You think I could run Mankind Divided on my GTX 580?

>>376815861
No, it's still worth it.

>>376816882
>Still gives XP reward you for killing or knocking out enemies which means it punishes people who don't want to engage and just sneak past enemies

Uh. That was usually countered by the ghost bonus. I mean you could knock out the 20 guards in the Highland Park mission for 1,000 XP or you could ghost it for 1,000 XP

>>376818472
You can get the ghost bonus knocking everyone out too, as long as you're not spotted.

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my friend gifted me the game several months ago but I could never be arsed to play it. One of the reasons is that people say it requires a monster PC to run and I hate getting stuttering in games. The fact people say it's short and underwhelming doesn't help.

Its a fun game. Sure its not a believable story. Still
entertaining.

This "It's too short" meme is from people who sprinted through the main game gunning people down and then perpetuated by those who've never played it.

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>>376807934
>making a sequel to an average game
after human revolution there was no reason to make another sequel, fucking hell

just like dishonored was average, and the shitty sequel was even more lukewarm

>>376818578
That's true and that's how it sort of works in both games which is disappointing. You have to knock out everyone while not setting off an alarm, hacking everything and destroying bots for the max XP bonus

But in Mankind Divided I was drowning in so much Praxis I had just about everything even without the Praxis DLC

>>376818853
I think you're right from a raw gameplay perspective, because taking into account everything you can do in the game, it's not as short as it seems. However from a main mission, storyline perspective, you have to admit that it ends right at the point where it seems like the vast global conspiracy is going to be uncovered by Jensen.

>>376818997
That's one of the issues in both Eidos games, you pretty much get everything and have no choices to make as in do you want stronger melee attacks or being able to lift heavy objects? In HR/MD you can easily get both, even Invisible War allowed you to have more options in building your character, despite the small amount of biomods.

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>game 1
>self contained story that has a few hints of a sequel
>game 2
>ends before the climax, no sense of fulfillment because they have to milk that cow
>game 3
>climax, but it's been 3 years and you give zero shits

>>376818853
The main story seriously is short though. I wanted to actually see how short it was so for new game+ I just focused on the main quest as fast as possible and got the entire thing done in 1 hour and 20 minutes and it only took that long because the elevator rides, load times and unskippable cutscenes take up 30 or so minutes

There's just not enough missions to go with it

>>376819054
I don't disagree, but by the time I had reached the final mission I had like 60 hours in the game so I wasn't too bothered. I played it as a ghost, I RP walked everywhere and read documents and newspapers. It being my first Deus Ex I thought it a good idea to pay attention and I don't regret it. My experience was elevated as a result and I adore the game. It's a shame that Utulek wasn't made into a secondary HUB post Rucker extraction and an even greater shame that we may never see a follow up.

>>376807934
Clearly the game was meant to be longer with more story, the ending makes it look like they cut the story of the game in half, maybe in hopes of making Mankind divided 2

Thinking anyone gives a shit about Prague.

Removing all the characters and voice actors that people grew to really like. Replacing them with utter shit.

Those two things more or less ruined my time with Mankind Divided.

>>376819174

Don't forget about IW.

>>376820791
talking about games in general, really.

>>376820791
Everyone forgot about IW.
Unless you follow Ross Scott

You can get the deluxe edition for 20 eurobucks on psn now, never saw a recent game get such a deep discount.

>>376821074
Unless its an activision/nintendo title games do get steep discounts these days. Like Witcher 3 went 50% sale pretty fast as well, its normal.

They Literally cut the game in half

>>376815118
Deus Ex games usually start off with a smaller scale plot involving you working for some organization and trying to deal with a terrorist cell. Then about 1/3 or halfway into the game, you unravel a larger conspiracy that has you questioning many of the people you had been working with and facing off against the Illuminatin and their interests.

MD felt like that first third or half of any other Deus Ex game. You're focused on something smaller scale--uncovering the truth behind a terrorist attack and preventing a new one from happening. But the bigger picture story playing out cocurrently was Jensen being there as a double agent to see if the taskforce was on the up and up or if it was corrupted for the Illuminati's purposes from the beginning. The whole game has an underlying subplot of Jensen investigating the taskforce and spying on them.

In any other game, that subplot would have blossomed into the main plot after the smaller scale conflict reached its boiling point. Instead, it's never resolved, despite spending a healthy amount of time towards it. Your decisions to help focus on digging into the taskforce's secrets versus being loyal to the taskforce amount to nothing. There's no real payoff in the end, because the whole taskforce plotline never gets a chance to go anywhere in the end.

One of the most telling things about MD that supports this is that the game has one single boss fight. Right when the terrorist plot reaches its climax, you finally get to the first boss encounter to cap it off. But then the game ends there, after finally reaching the first boss fight.

>>376808326
>it's too short.
Took me as much as HR though i was thoroughly enjoying the exploration.

It's a good game. But the story feels like it's a side quest which is a shame for a Deus Ex game.