This game is never coming out.

>>376804315
tell us "it's never coming out" in a couple months when 3.0 hits

>>376804315
>2012 "It will never get enough funding!"
>2013 "They will never make a working module!"
>2014 "FEATURE CREEP!"
>2015 "Smart says they are running out of money!"
>2016 "Game will be finished by 2XXX!"
A healthy dose of skepticism is good for everyone, but at some point people have to accept the fact there is progress going on with Star Citizen.

>>376805556
3.0 doesn't have most of the shit they promised. It's nothing at all. I just went and asked for a refund after they revealed it.

>>376807318
>2012 "It will never get enough funding!"
>2013 "They will never make a working module!"

Literally, came out from your ass.

>>376807318
It's 2017 and it doesn't have a working module.

>>376807868
When did you first hear about SC? 2015?

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>>376804315
>mfw the devs took $15k or something stupid of donations and spent it on a coffee machine

>>376807318
Yeah, and the game was supposed to be delivered by Christmas 2014.

>>376808108
Until the community voted to keep adding stretch goals to the game.

>>376804315

How long did it take FFXV to reach a release? 10 years?

The problem isn't them taking their time. The problem is on demand modern culture craving constant updates and inclusion.

Its done when its done.

>>376804315
>livestreams and videos of the game
>"its never coming out!"
okay fag

>>376808243
That's absolutely irrelevant. That shouldn't have been a "vote" anyway.

They got greedy on top of the rampant incompetence so they decided to shift responsibility to the community.

It's like offering a kid a box of candy, then saying it's not your responsibility he ate a fuckton and got sick.

>>376808325

> Videos of "the game"
> Videos

You gullible retarded manchild.

>>376808406
>Reddit spacing

>>376808325
>Star Wars The Old Republic has almost double the viewers SC has

That must mean SWTOR is an amazing game, right?

If
>Release date postponed indefinitely
isn't enough of proof to show that this shit is never coming out, I don't know what is

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>>376808475
>can't refute his argument
>call him a redditfag

>>376804315
well they make more money by not releasing

>>376804315
>livestreams and videos
>on youtube
What else could be there on youtube,you want some comments from them?
>not working on this anymore
just look at their youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADB-wpvTD0k

>>376804315
hue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6CW8SJAf0

>>376808630
Explain

>>376808107
>>mfw the devs took $15k or something stupid of donations and spent it on a coffee machine

Not a bad investment for an operation that large. The logistics involved with getting coffee for a couple hundred people is non-trivial.

>>376808720
conspiracy theories

>>376808630
I don't understand how people don't realize that this game is going to be like a mobile phone money sinkhole. They KNOW you're suckers you think they won't milk it?

When they start to finally run out of nerd money the game will eventually get finished. It'll be a huge fucking mess, however. The whole thing is so fucking bloated now that there's no way it'll function smoothly.

>>376808406
No the wrong they committed was making the stretch goals huge.

>>376808107
Don't forget the space door that went for thousands of dollars.

And the expensive actors no one asked for because Cris Roberts is a frustrated movie director.

How is it unexpected that development and scope increases along with the budget?

>>376808506
did you reply to the wrong person?

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>>376805556
>J-Just wait for 3.0!!!

>No-N-n-no, it needs more time, wait for 4.0

>Heh, E-everything is going to be done around 5.0, I SWEAR!

This is you, forget about this game and move on. It is an half assed game that is unoptimized to support so much shit happening at one time using cryengine only because "it looks pretty", it is un-fun and has shitty UI. and is also being made by a scammer who micro-manages on the stupidest shit like having fins on a ship looks a certain way instead of making the game good

>>376808935
They promised you could be a space stewardess and mix drinks in real time. This is the kind of developers they are funding.

>>376809190
who are qouting

>People are paying for a multiplayer game with the worst netcode in history.
>No intention of fixing it.

Thread theme:
http://tindeck.com/listen/uhwur

>>376809508
0/2

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>>376804315
>YouTube channel
> full of shit livestreams and video

>livestreams
>video
>on Youtube

As opposed to what? Images and gifs?

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>>376809195
>you will never play a space stewardess and get raped and abducted by pirates raiding the station you're on in real time

>>376809276
Don't know why but I read that post as "wait a couple of months when 3.0 hits"

I'm retarded...

>>376809660
Images and gifs are reserved for their content sales

>>376809801
Implying that anyone cares what some 50 edgy 14 years old tryhards have to say to fit in to edgy 4chains.

Scam Citizen meme

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>>376807594
>it's nothing at all

>>376808284
3 years of actual work.

>>376809036
>One machine
>For a couple hundred people
Nevermind that it's a "luxury" espresso machine, not a workhorse. I'm not even a coffee hipster and I know you're a fucking idiot.

>>376809195
I don't think so. You probably heard "We would like to make a system that allows for a diverse set of characters for someone to play as; Like being able to be a bartender and make drinks in real time for other people or AI on a ship." Way too often people take things the developers say for face value without the context of the conversation being had. This is problem compounded by the thousands of hours of video discussion produced by CIG and the thousands of discussions in Q&A threads that devs are apart of.

>>376810163
A.I Development Plans:
>Turrets
>Mission Givers (they literally called it this)
>Personal Manager App (mobile game lol)
>That's it. For an entire year.
Boy oh boy it's going to rely on "player interaction" in order to be fun.

>>376804315
>People are paying for a multiplayer game with the worst netcode in history.
This isn't a rainbow six siege thread

>>376810503
>Here's the context that makes it sound exactly like what everyone was assuming.
I fail to see how you think this is a good thing.

>>376810503
I don't think they are releasing even a fraction of all the shit they have promised either, Jonesy.

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>>376808748

>>376809962
I don't care what they say. I just don't want hundred of replies going "hurr durr retard" and ignoring what I wrote, I'll just correct my mistake so they can fuck off.

They need another 150million dollars to finish the game.

Real talk, no game is worth 300 million dollars in development, its a shame it wasn't their money otherwise there'd be a mad scramble to make some of it back.

>>376810163
>a bunch of worthless shit

Is this the true power of Chris Roberts?

Anyone who still backed anything after the first year deserves to lose their money and their dreams crushed.
When it comes out you'll be lucky if it has any gameplay at all.
Personally I hope the devs run away with the rest of the money and it never gets made.

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>>376809830

>>376808748
this, /v/ has apparently never worked for a big company.

also you could wipe your ass with 15k if you have 150 million dollars.

>>376811287
And wiping their asses with the money is what they are doing.

>>376811131
The thing is, unlike no man's sky, they aren't lying as much and actually want to deliver the promised features. Doesn't mean it will come out any time soon but they're trying

>>376811131
>When it comes out you'll be lucky if it has any gameplay at all.

But people can actually play parts of the game right now

>>376811580
I'm just saying if you actually expect a game to get made and be good through crowdfunding you should watch out for bean salesmen on the way to the store.

Anyone else just waiting for the single player campaign?
The online is cool and all but I don't care if it's ever finished

The fact that people still defend this shit is proof that the game will never come out, and that everyone who gave them money deserves being scammed.

People who funded this are the cancer killing videogames for the rest of us.

>>376811854
But nobody defends it, long time backers know it's bullshit and never coming.
Supporting this is nowhere near as bad for the industry and supporting meme shit like PUBG or ark/rust etc

>>376811854
>The fact that people still defend this shit is proof that the game will never come out
how does that work,how are the two even fucking correlated

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>>376811806
>if you actually expect a game to get made and be good through crowdfunding
What is
>Divinity: Original Sin
>Shovel Knight
>FTL
>Grim Dawn
>Darkest Dungeon
>Hyper Light Drifter
>Hand of Fate
>Satellite Reign
>Undertale

>>376810779
Because most of the time the devs are not promising anything and yet people run with it. >>376810889
You can go to their webpage and see exactly what was promised. Anything else is just hearsay.

You mean the YouTube channel where every single video showcases massive amounts of progress?
There are lots of reasons to dislike the project, but saying that they aren't working their asses off (possibly more than is healthy) is a joke.

>>376812082
Most of those games had working prototypes already. What's the record on KS games from "legendary developers" that got kicked from the industry?

>>376811056
>a bunch of worthless shit
>planets,big ass ships,trading,missions,stations are somehow worthless shit

>>376812164
>>376812316
>I didn't get scammed! Once the indefinitely postponed phase is over I'll get a product that is better than everyother product that exists

This is at best going to end up being dayz in space

>>376812480
see>>376809276

>>376812480
Okay, friend. At this point you actively have to be blocking out information to think that it's a scam or there isn't a lot of development happening, but if you want to a live a cold, cynical life, that's your problem.

>>376807318
"progress"

Wants to make a mmo
>cant even make a functional multiplayer, 5 years of work and it runs like dog shit only able to handle 24 people.

Tell me more of that progress i hope u like all the early access modules.

Because so far they havent shown that they can create a mmo ;) atleast squadron 42 will be good

>>376812164
>>376807318
>>376808748
exactly fellow citizens of the stars , in the meantime how about another F7C-Hornet Wildifire or Avenger Stalker to buff up your fleet? Remember the more you invest now the more prepared you are going to be compared to others on release day and on release day that investment will pay up a thousand fold
With regards
-Jason Grant , Clolonel of The Vederation

>>376812574
I'm a very optimistic person, but there's a difference between that and being utterly delusional.

>>376812574

Cry me a river faggot

>>376812647

/thread

>>376804315
Has there ever been another game that changed their TOS to say you can no longer get a refund?

Has any other company searched through Twitter accounts artistically and banned people for liking someone's comment?

>>376812647

Honestly for the scope of the project along with needing to build up an actual studio after funding had finished (I think I remember reading they had only like a dozen actually staff at the ready before then) this isn't an unexpected amount of time to be taking

>>376812082
Yeah compare this lackluster list with the hundreds of projects that simply turned to shit.
But really I don't care, it's your money to waste. Most games that get crowdfunded and turn out to be good were already in working alpha needing money for cosmetic changes and sound.

>>376812657
Totally. There are people who maintain that Star Citizen is going to be something that it isn't, and I'm sure that it won't release with the full featureset. That being said, I've been following the project for long enough to know that a ton of progress is actively being made.
DESU, I really wish that they hadn't committed to this insane schedule of having a developer branch and a live branch. What we can play right now is over ten months behind what the developers have because they have to keep patching the bullshit, and every time they stream their branch the difference is incredible. Every "miracle patch" that is talked about is just us getting closer to what the developers have.
I trust that the developers have the talent and the budget to build a quality product, I'm not sure that we'll get it in any timely fashion if they need to have a separate team at all times trying to make a live version.

>>376808284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjY1UJ-P8DM 3 years actually. The other 7 was development hell and 2 seperate games getting trashed for a new script + 2 game engines.

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>use cryengine
>manage to fuck up a fps

>>376812647
I find it hard to believe squadron 42 will be good either. The gunplay in their game is one of the worst I have seen so far. It's incredibly broken and boring.

>>376812164
>showcases massive amounts of progress?
Yeah I remember one of those, half the time was dedicated to explaining animation blending like it's a feature and they invented it for the game, a standard tech in the current age, and the comments went wild. Fucking geniuses, revolutionary technology, holy shit someone give them a million bucks.

Cults do something scary to the mind of some people.

>>376812902
>it's your money to waste

I haven't even backed it, since it's not yet at a state where I'd actually enjoy playing it

>>376812983
I liked how the walls wouldn't stop bullets at all. I have no idea how they managed to fuck up that.

Is it safe to say that star citizen has reached religious like devotion by now?

It's legitimately scary the kind of nonsense the defenders will spew to justify their purchase and the clear mismanagement of the company

>>376813075
It's not all about revolutionary technology, anon. Part of the promise of this project was an unprecedented look into the development of a AAA game. That will naturally include first demonstrations of things that other games have already done, especially when they aren't in the game as-is.
I'm not sure how you can see a 40 minute video every week with 20 minutes talking about the things that one studio did in the last month and just dismiss it all as extraneous bullshit. That doesn't register with me.
By the way, if it comes across as a cult attitude (which I totally get, I used to be where you are now), that's just because the vast majority of backers are tired of having the internet shit-talk the developers and the game 24/7 for over four years.

>>376813239
>the kind of nonsense the defenders will spew
Like what?

>>376813108
Your position seemed to be defending backers.
That's why I responded.

>>376813239
It really hasn't other than fags in denial, I had a friend convince me to buy it since we both love elite dangerous, and while it is fun, whenever someone else asks if they should get it I say wait for a sale/more progress

>>376813323
>it's perfectly alright to change the TOS/EULA to say you can't get a refund!
>a 13000 dollar coffee machine and air locks are perfectly reasonable expenses!
>those drill sergeant skits were great!
>a CEO taking a full day off work to make a rambling incoherent mess of a blogpost because he's mad is fine!
>so what if they miss deadlines? Don't you want a game you can play for generations!
>I didn't buy a ship, I INVESTED!

1. Has the game progressed to a point where it's on-par with Freelancer MP yet?
2. If not, when will that occur?
2b. If Yes to #1, what's the price to get in and play?
2c. Do I have to pay real world money for ships?

>>376813239
i haven't seen any other games detractors forming a communities and forums,making literal propaganda and brigading the defenders,not to mention stalking and obsessing over the devs to the point that it has to be taken to court

>>376813819
I never played freelancer so I can't say
>Do I have to pay real world money for ships
Yes and no. You pay for your intitial ship which also pays for the game. If you're a rich autist you can pay 300$ for one, you can do missions and stuff in game for currency to get ships/upgrades that way

>chris said that the game will run perfectly fine 60fps on a 780ti
>my 980 struggles

But hey at least he bought himself a 15k coffee machine.

>>376813979
Neato.
Hopefully someone else can answer for #1.

>>376805556

> 3.0
> still in alpha

Top Zoz

>>376813819
1.No
2.Trading is coming in July/August
2b.40$ for now
2c.No

>>376813936
Yeah scam citizen devotees are insane what they'll do to people

>>376813983
I can get 60 fps on my 780,even on Crusader in the morning/night

>>376813936
Never has been a game that has gone this far scamming people out of their money.

>>376813936
There are entire communities of SC fanboys dedicated to stalking Derek Smart because they are that paranoid whenever someone shit talks their excuse for a game

>>376814128
I'll check back in August then, thanks anon.

>>376814345
>DEREK SMART'S DESKTOP COMMANDER
>important
There are better targets to stalk than fucking DEREK SMART'S DESKTOP COMMANDER.

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>>376813239

>>376813819
You don't need to pay real money to get ships. You pay real money to get pictures of ships

>>376814509
Well, admitting it is the first step I guess.

>>376814317
Ain't scammed shit
>>376814535
>I swear by its truth

>you can pay 15k for a low res cgi image

Incredible

>>376814509
I agree. Normal people don't make subreddits dedicated to stalking Derek Smart. But SC cultists aren't normal people

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>>376805556
>15 years after Freelancer
>Still believing anything Chris Roberts says

>>376814715
>Ain't scammed shit
These are high fucking industry professionals who have worked on and completed dozens of projects. Do you think they don't know precisely what stage the game is at and that they're full of shit when they tell you the game will be ready for release 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017?

It's coming anon. Soon. Better buy in now before the price jacks up.

They are scamming people out of their money. And it's not a fucking joke.

>>376814623
>>376814728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YlR07nGYM
I mean, when you think a person who made a game like this is someone to stalk, you are essentially completely fucking retarded.

>>376813819
No.
Unknown. Much of what Chris has talked about is subject to frequent delays.
$60 last I checked.
No, but it helps in every circumstance.

>>376814801
Reminder that MS had to take over Chris Roberts because he kept wasting money and had nothing to show for it. Reminder that when he finally made it to Hollywood, he wasted the money and released a piece of crap that tanked in every possible way

>>376814928
They're making a game and it's fucking obvious every week

>>376814942
>stalking people over videogames
>stalking anybody, ever
This is why I avoid shitposting in these threads. I am fully confident that at least one of you faggots is constructing shadow profiles based on post composition.

>>376815070
>Spouting this much bullshit

>>376815107
No one is questioning that. It's how they're making the game.

>>376813694
>>376813983

Funny enough everyone says that they bought the machine, but the instagram post about the damned thing that spawned all this shit outright said it was a demo

>>376815225
>he thinks Wing Commander wasn't a critical and box office failure

No wonder retards keep giving him money

>>376813239
>2017 and still believing in a few bad apples representing the bunch

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>scam drones defending 12k coffee machine
>drones defending 12k sliding doors

Meanwhile slav devs have fold up metal chairs and PCs from 2010 churning out games like Witcher3...

>>376815409
Nice deflection. You got anything to back up what you said besides shit posting.

Can you walk around in a ship that someone else is piloting without getting tossed outside in lag situation? I've seen the video of a dude setting a ship to roll and then walking around the inside while it was rolling unpiloted, don't link me that. What I'm concerned about is someone at a helm putting in movement input and you getting thrown out.

A lot of FPS games have these kinds of issues with multiplayer vehicles and it's why you're usually bolted into an assigned seat in games like battlefield and crysis warhead, so I'm wondering if they've fixed this or not.

>>376815553
The typical fix is separating the interior from the physical 'vehicle'. They'll have that down. Or really really should at this point.

Thank god I still haven't bought a package yet.

Waiting for them to at least finish SQ42. Which I might die of old age first.

>>376815526
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wing_commander/

????

>>376815553
Yes you can. I have had people pilot a ship and I can run around and shoot things from the doors and shit without a problem. You can even get in a ship, set it to a cruise speed, get out and run around the ship while it is flying.

>>376815424
>hurrdurr devs don't coffe or doors
Witcher 3 had a huge budget

>>376815730
No you fucking retard.
>>376815070

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>>376808662
Wow, they fucked up the green screen on their video. That's pretty sad.

>>376815952
I dont get it

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>>376816249
Check his elbow

>>376816307
My god

>>376815952
That's just some green box on the floor behind him.

>>376815952
>cant tell the difference between green box and green screen
>i-i-its a scam guys!

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>>376816480
>>376816632
I'm sorry that you both got grifted guys.

You should've listened to Derek Smart.

>>376816781
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>376816781
Eh, it was just professional curiosity since that would have otherwise have been a ridiculously professional greenscreen shot.

How is the ship combat like?
compared to elite dangerous

>>376817885
About as good as the FPS combat.

>>376817885
Played both.SC feels way better.

Doesn't Space Engineers have a lot of the stuff Star Citizen promised, such as ship combat, boarding, planets etc? I haven't played it but how does flying around in MP work in that?

I'm going to laugh myself to death when you all realise what a scam this was all along.

>>376818270
How is it a scam its currently playable you dumbass

>>376818471
Hareraiser (1984) was playable yet a scam. One does not prevent the other.

>>376818270

>Starts up 3 different development studios with over 300 employees in total
>Playable builds of the game
>Scam

Poorly managed =/= scam

>>376818948
A snake oil merchant still sells you a product anon.

>>376818948
There's actually 11 companies that were started as part of the Star Citizen project. It's kinda complicated.

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female characters are in!

>>376818270
I won't care when you realize you're wrong

>>376818948
The fact he started up multiple studios from scratch tells you how doomed this project is.
There are good reasons the rest of the industry doesn't work that way.

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>>376819571
>"female" characters
Looks about as "female" as John Flynt.

>>376819571
No, they're not

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>>376819571

Chromatic abberation? Why the fuck is that still a thing? I thought people stopped doing that shit years ago after the Payday 2 fiasco

>>376819650
And "the rest of the industry" sure is pumping out some quality shit these days huh.

>>376820018
>I thought people stopped doing that shit years ago
Chromatic aberration is never going away. Devs think it makes the game look more cinematic, and is used in cinema because film makers think it makes the movie look more realistic.

>>376808325
There are videos of Scalebound gameplay, does that mean it's coming out soon?

>>376820018
>2017
>Every game still has motion blur and depth of field
fuck

>>376812082
Don't forget Skullgirls and the Shadowrun games

>>376820657
The videos are weekly studio reports,does that the game is never gonna come out?

>>376818143
You best be joking, there is no weight behind ships in sc, Elite has superb ship handling, rewards you for thinking about maneuvers, not just point into direction, you have to think in every engagement, and now with multicrew this is even more visible.

>>376821249
>there's weight behind ships
Yes there is,though there's a huge size difrence between somehting like a hornet and a FDunkship
>Elite has superb handling
If you got a stick,else it's ass if you turn off assist
Rest is the same for SC
>multicrew
Oh yeah i have to think very hard now that i have an extra fighter/gunner for my turrets

>>376820706
>motion blur
Helps reduce strobing on 60Hz screens. Also name five games where you can't turn it off.

>>376822153
Can't say flickering has been a noticeable problem for me.Never said you couldn't turn it off

>>376812902
Unless you're a complete idiot it's pretty fucking easy to tell which projects aren't going to be complete trainwrecks by looking at the quality and amount of prototypes and pre-production work, as well as the developer track record (instead of just the big names thrown around.)

So far I haven't been burned once, everything has either met or exceeded expectations. I regret pledging so much on Torment but I knew exactly what was in for with InXile as the developer.

>>376808717

Why are most of their employees fat as fuck?

>>376824965
It's just the americans

never gave those gyz 1 cent/penny, and i wont even buy the dam game unless it gets godlike reviews

screw you chris roberts or whatever your dam name is

>still no console version announced for SQ42
>devs don't even react to my questions
>literally only PC only game that I want to play

Cmon, Robertsfag, I can guarantee you that I won't otherwise buy it - i might pirate it on PC later though.

>>376825223
It's damn