>Daily reminder that console gamers actually have to PAY to

>>376795596
I usually buy multiplayer games on PC and single player games on consoles.
If a single player game on console has also online multiplayer, I ignore it. Hopefully it has at least local multiplayer.
If a console game is mainly multiplayer, I don't buy it.

>>376795596
Fucking hilarious isn't it? The best part is not only will baby-box using kiddies actually defend paid online, but will probably pretend they didn't see this thread.

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>have to pay to access online they already pay for
>b-b-b-but it's cheaper only 500 dollars for a limited access PC

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>>376795596
not only that, they have to buy entire new video game boxes every 5-7 years

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Daily reminder that console gamers actually have to PAY for GAMES

>>376795596
>He stoops down to consolewar levels
For fuck's sake, stop trying to be the thing you mock.

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>have to PAY to CHANGE AVATAR

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Daily reminder that we have a FFXIV shill thread every day and there are people one this board who pay a monthly fee to play ONE (1) game

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/1443246887762.jpg/

Daily reminder that that 60 fps @ 1080p is literally unachievable for 90% of console titles

>>376795951
Never mind, he's exactly like the retards he makes fun of.

>>376795951
Woah! It appears so /v/ have same threads every day!
More news at 11!
Good job detective

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>>376795951

wow. what a sad guy

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>>376795943
>pay for online and have to PAY AGAIN for ONE GAME

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>>376795918
>have to PAY to CHANGE USERNAME

>>376795596
I have never once paid for ps4 online, straight up refuse to so its just a singleplayer box.

>>376795951
>These are Mordhau's fans

PS3 didn't have an online sub, why does PS4?

>>376795596

You feel better about yourself agter posting this you autistic fuck? I bet you think really highly of yourself.

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>>376795596

>PC gamer with this old argument

>>376796156
Jews of course are you dum

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>>376796164
HAHAHAHHA THE CONSOLE CHILD IS CRYING

YOU CAN HEAR HIM CRYING THROUGH THE POST I LOVE IT

>>376796140
do you actually laugh at this shit as you type it

>>376796156
why would sony say no thanks to free money?
when they saw how willingly people forked money over to microshaft to play online they knew they had to do the same thing

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>>376795596
Don't you fucking idiots realize servers take MONEY TO MAINTAIN? THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ALWAYS SO HIGH QUALITY AND NEVER GO DOWN AND HAVE IMPROVED SO MUCH SINCE IT USED TO BE FREE

>>376795596
haha Niggers!

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>stop paying LOSE all of your """"free game'""""

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>>376796252
i'm LAUGHING RIGHT NOW at YOU and I want more of it

keep crying PLEASE KEEP CRYING

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>>376796272
hahahahahaahahahhahaahahahhahahaahhhaha

>>376796272
>not hosting your own custom servers
the possibilities are endless!
it's free too!

>>376796332
I'm just posting fuel you know

looks like op bought a pass
faggot

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>>376796272
*gets hacked*

>>376796272
>Console servers
>Stable
Pick one. Even Steam's servers are more stable, and you don't even have to pay for that.

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>>376796374
I don't PAY for things I can access FOR FREE

are you fucking retarded???

>>376796236

Your self esteem is in a great place, isn't it? Go ask daddy for money for the next overpriced video card.

>>376795596
>try to play vidya on my superior Windows 7 gaymen computer
>get ransomware
>have to pay some slav 300 bucks just to start my games
t-thanks gabe

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>>376796473
P R O J E C T I N G

AHHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHA

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY SIDES?!?!?

HHHASHSHSAHAHAHHAHA

>>376796459
ill just steal this cat

>>376796480
>being so computer illiterate you actually get ransomware
how? did you click the ad that said "HOT GIRLS want your cock NOW (no credit card necessary)" or something?

>>376796480
Get Common Sense(TM) 2018 bro. Works fine on my machine :=)

>>376796480
I mean, it's bait, but how did you even manage to get ransom ware? Those are usually only sent to companies and older people, because they're the only ones oblivious enough to fall for it.

>>376796541
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/1478154379240.jpg/
For fuck's sake, man.

>>376796541

Yeah, I get it. Youre just a shitty troll with a folder full of reaction images. Good luck on the rest if your life, your gonna need it.

op what are you doing stop

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>mfw there are people in these bait threads that are legitimately salty

>>376796728
idiot retard

>people genuinely enjoy these kinds of threads
>people genuinely believe posting like this is board culture
>all those newfags who copy what they see
>no other shithole is as tolerable as this place for actual discussion should it happen
FUCKING SNAIL

>>376796605
>dedicated shitposting against all sides
why do these kind of people exist

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>>376796572
You can't just download him like that you need to pay me a license for him

>>376796654
>Good luck on the rest if your life, your gonna need it.
Stopped reading right there u GRANDFATHER LARPER. Who the fuck are you lmfao trying to pretend like ur some mentor lol ur a joke kid

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>>376796780
It's the worst kind of hell isn't it?

>>376795596

What happens when Steam implements that?

>>376795596
FUCK Microsoft for making paid online a thing. FUCK Sony for standardizing it. And finally FUCK Nintendo for falling for the "modern" meme and adopting that horseshit too. Goddamn console gaming has fallen so far.

>MILLIONS of cucks actually play FPS/TPS with a controller
K E K
E
K

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>>376796825
>grandfather larper

>>376796728

Nah, its all digital masturbation. You enjoy yourself for a short time while doing it, then when its over, you feel disappointed and disgusted with yourself.

>>376796875
>have to buy converter to use mouse

>>376796014
Being ironic doesn't change the fact it's a shit situation.

>>376796825

>stopped reading right there

No shit, that was the end of the post. You are a special kind of retarded arent you? Nevermind, I can deduce that from the frogposting.

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>>376796825
>grandfather larper

>>376796780
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?

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>>376796859
They can't because PCGamers are some of the most intelligent consumers and will proceed to pirate all their games and host their own dedicated servers. It's actually hilarious how badly PCGamers have grabbed Steam by the balls. If Gabe twists just a tiny inch they're getting torn STRAIGHT off. This is of course the polar opposite of consolegoys and microsoft/sony.

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>>376795752
>Hopefully it has at least local multiplayer
>Modern Consoles
>Local Multiplayer

>>376795596
Yeah sorry for actually supporting the industry.

Life isn't a competition, you idiot solipsist. We all make a difference.

Daily reminder that PCfags are so far in denial that they have to constantly have this thread up so they can circlejerk 24/7 to feel better about their miserable existences

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>>376796964
>reddit spacing

>>376795769
And PC gamers have a new video card released every 12 months that costs over $100 each time.

>>376797090

>its reddit!

Last defense of a man with no argument.

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>>376797081
>reddit spacing (again)

>>376796541

>reddit spacing!

>im so fookin clever!

I'm still a bit annoyed that Sony stooped to Microsoft's level, but luckily there aren't really any ps4 games with online functionality that I care about.

>>376796604
I didn't get it myself, but there was a massive outburst of it last night
Any Windows machine that hasn't been updated since March 17 is vulnerable
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39901382

>>376797135
You can still play new games with the GPU you bough 12 months ago, 24 months ago, 36 months ago, 48 months ago, 60 months ago...all you have to do is crank the settings down.

What about consoles?
How are those PS3 games treating you on your PS4?

>>376797135
still using my 7970 from five years ago

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>>376797081
>he's PROUD to be supporting ANTI-CONSUMER PRACTICES

hhh-holy shit im
im gunnaHHHhh

hhh
hhHHAHH

HAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

>>376796221
It's still valid, you fucking cuck

>>376797234
just block incoming port 445 and you're safe

>>376797135
>approaching 365th day with this GPU
>Gabe's gonna close my account if I don't upgrade on time
kill yourself

>>376797273

Have some reddit spacing.
Because fuck you.
No seriously, fuck you.
Hurr durr
Durrrrrr

>>376797090
>>376797160
>>376797225
Only newfag redditors think "reddit spacing" is a thing. We can use and have used whatever fucking spacing or formatting we want.

>>376797273
If we don't pay money to video game companies how the fuck do you expect video games to keep being released?

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>>376797081
>supporting the industry that rewards us by shitty games with forced tacked on MP
>the last few games I legit enjoyed were both singleplayer

Do any of you even legitimately laugh at anything?

>>376797081
You're already supporting the industry by buying the consoles and games, the online fee is just some extra judaism on top. There's only a fee because they know they can get away with it because consumers are morons.

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>>376796480
>winblows

>>376796272
I pay $3 a month for real debrid and download 50gb a day from it. $60 a year for maybe 5gb of data transfer during online play is ridiculous

>>376795596
>has a WoW sub
>has a FF sub
>pays for a Battlefield server
>pays for unfinished early access games and shills them on 4chins

Wow fucking console keks.

>>376795596
Everyone needs to pay to play online, if you think about it...

>>376797503

What am I supposed to be seeing here?

>>376797054
That's why I wrote "hopefully".

>>376797569
>playing MMO hamster-wheel fuckfests
>playing Battlefield
>Buying early access games/kickstarters EVER

That entire post describes the brain dead mongoloid PC user, no shit you're a retard if you buy into that stuff.

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>>376795596
>not using the loophole to get free PS+
I haven't pay to play online once, and I've had my PS4 for two years.

>>376797809
please explain

>>376795596
I don't get why the master race acts like this, then complains about new players joining in when games go f2p.

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>>376796825
>GRANDFATHER LARPER

>>376797719
thats the point mate. PC is on another cancer level when it comes to jew people, yet this is all irrelevant on this weeb forum. PC had "pay your internet twice to play ONE game online" shit running since 1999

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>>376797614
Games running on an operating system other than Windows

>getting ransomware
>still using windows
>2017

>>376797054
>Not having friends to invite over to play games

>>376797885
Playstation gives you that 14 day trial that you can use unlimited amount of times, just keep using that and you don't have to pay.

>>376797809
I think it doesnt work anymore

>>376798297
ok now tell me why people don't just do this?
does it require you to create a new account every 14 days like it did on xbox live? at least they gave you a 30 day trial so you didn't have to create that many accounts

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>PSN is free
LMAO XBOXNIGGERS HAVE TO PAY FOR ONLINE HAHA
>PSN starts asking for money
LMAO POORFAG CANT AFFORD 5 BUCKS A MONTH HAHAHAH

>>376795951
I wish falseflagging and console wars weren't a thing.

>>376797265
Let's see your 7970 run Battlefield 1 maxed at 144 fps constant. Oh wait. It can't.

>>376798449
That really jolted my noggin into action

>>376798562
i wouldn't play that garbage even if I had a GTX1080Ti

>>376796780
I've been going to /v/ for 5 years and there has been constant console wars every day. At this point if you still come here expecting anything different you are the retard

>>376795596
And PC gamers to pay more for hardware. Your point?

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>>376798449
l-lmao poor fag detected
am i r-right guys?

>>376798449
More like,

>PSN is free
HAHAHHA GET HACKED FAGGOT LOLOLOL

>>376798789
hardware is something
paid online is paying for fucking nothing.
even the most overpriced retarded alienware pc is a better deal that makes you less of a cuck than paying for a single second of paid online because it is at the very least a thing.

>>376797240
>60 months ago...all you have to do is crank the settings down.
At 5fps and 720p?
>How are those PS3 games treating you on your PS4?
They are running good on my PS3.

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>>376798871
g-guys?

>>376798957
If you have pay more often for upgrades and hardware this is scam. You paying for nothing.

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>>376795596

>>376798959
Triple A games generally aren't worth playing, I'm sure everyone with taste can agree. The most demanding games that are actually worth your time will run at around 30 fps 720p with a years old graphics card

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>>376798789
They pay more for SUPERIOR hardware. You missed that word on purpose, didn't you? Say it with me, loudly.

SUPERIOR.

That means 144 fps, ultra graphics, full modding capabilities, large scale battles, intricate AI's etc.

We pay for quality, you pay for a shake down racket.

>>376799036
>Triple A games generally aren't worth playing

That's your personal opinion. Don't use it as argument and fact. It's really dumb.

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>>376795596
>switched over to PC

>PSN subscription auto-renewed

>call customer support to refund that shit

>mfw I got to tell the Sony customer support guy exactly why I didn't want my PSN renewed

>>376799091
>They pay more for SUPERIOR hardware

No, equal PC hardware cost more than console. Consoles have better price to quality ratio. So your 60$ for online argument barely works. Check Nier Automata on 750ti it runs worse than regular PS4 version.

But I dont. I've never paid a single penny for online play, yet I own every console since the N64 era. I really dont get this whole "have to pay" in general, no one is forcing you. Same with DLC, you dont have to buy it.

>>376799181
Why would any master race gamer buy a PC to run on par with modern consoles (read:trash performance)?

Also, the price quickly racks up with a console. Consider the following:
>$500 console
>$60 extra controller so your brother can't complain to mommy that you don't let him play with you
>$120 1 year online license
>Games are up to $30 dollars more expensive, old games don't go down in price as fast, less sales
>Have to pay $10 to change your username after you realise that XxXNinjAG0blinXxX is a shite name
>Have to pay another $10 to change your username after you join a Call of Duty clan
>Pay $30 on avatars and wallpapers

As you can see this is already way more expensive than a entry (still dwarfing console) level PC.

>>376795952
>Daily reminder that that 60 fps @ 1080p is literally unachievable for 90% of console titles

And so does for 95% of PCocks.

>>376799181
I just bought a $400 ACER laptop and it runs Overwatch better than my PS4 did. Don't know what this meme is about, but it's clearly false.

>>376799428
60fps @ 1080p is deprecated
real niggas play 120+fps @ 2160p

>>376799428
You can choose to lower graphical settings on PC games to better suit your machine.

Can't do that on console, even when performance is shit.

>>376797135
Buy every 3 generations, that's a pretty good upgrade cycle. So about 4-5 years. Shit will run fine.

And guess what: It'll run all your old games just fine! No reason to keep the old one, if it's still okay you can sell it, without losing access to your games.

>>376799415
>mster race
More like autism race
>500$ console
Which console cost 500$?
>60 extra controller
Damn, you already get 2 controllers with PC? As far as I know controller is already included in console price. On PC you have to pay additional price for it.
>120$ year online
Another number out of ass
>Games are up to $30 dollars more expensive, old games don't go down in price as fast, less sales
Another thing out of ass, Consoles also have large used games market, which you can easily exchange for free with other people.
>pay for avatar, username
And why would I have to do that? It's not mandatory.

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>console gamers play games

>>376799575
Even on lowest settings many PC can run games at stable 60fps.

>>376799696
Steam hardware survey says no

>>376799739
Which survey?

>>376799696
Yep

>be graphicsfag

>PC is obviously the better choice because you're a graphicsfag and the extra $ is worth it

>don't be a graphicsfag

>PC is still better because 99.9% of modern PC games can run fine on a $200 toaster with the lowest settings

The choice is real fucking clear.

>>376799739
Steam hardware survey includes the people on laptops using steam as a social network when they're not at home.

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>>376795596

daily reminder that mustards are still playing an overrated 10 year old hat-simulating fps because they have nothing else to play.

>>376799774
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
behold, PCs average users

>>376799834
no they cant. They actually cant

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>>376798959
5fps 720p?
The 780Ti has been released 4 years ago in November, 48 months, and it still runs games at good framerate with decent settings at 1080p.
You think that's going to change in 12 months?

Games nowadays are more CPU dependent than GPU, you can easily hit the 30 or 60fps quota if you lower you standards.
Meanwhile your shitty next-gen console can't play games that got released on the previous gen and neither can the previous gen run the next gen titles unless they're multi-plat.

Meanwhile on PC you can play old games and new games.

>>376799834
PC is inferior choice because same graphics on PC cost more and most exclusives are cheap indie games that looks real bad. The choice is real fucking clear.

>>376799857

Overwatch isn't 10 years old retard

>>376800004
>it still runs games at good framerate

Dude, it runs Nier at 30fps

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>>376800042

tf2 was never good, friend.

>>376800071
30fps is still good, it's acceptable, 60fps is the sweet spot and 100+fps is perfect if you own high refresh rate output devices.

What are you trying to say?

>>376798550
They shouldn't be a thing but mods do fuckall.

>>376800138
>30fps is still good

Hahaha, oh wow.

>>376800196
If you own a literal shitbox and you can't afford or don't want to upgrade, then it's perfectly fine, fix your autism.

>>376800004
>look up 780ti
>no longer sold
>750 is 120€
>know that it cant play the newest games

>>376799857
>>376800121
>Consolefags are also furries
Can't make this shit up.

>>376799631
not same anon but
>500$ dollar new hdr console
>2000$ new hdr tv
>60$ extra controller that you will innevitably buy
>120$ for online that you will inevitably pay
>used game market need a 20$ fee to activate online
>not mandatory but you will do it atleast once

End yourself

>>376800250
>b-but you can upgrade!

So stop moving goalposts by saying PC is cheaper like before you PCretin.

>>376800293
>Can't argue against playing shit games because no good games to play so resorts to ad hominem
Clockwork for a PC cuck

>>376800280
>not even 750ti

Yeah no shit it won't the 750 was a low-tier card even at release.

>>376800354
>PC is cheaper
I never said that you inbred mongoloid retard, I'm talking about longevity, holy shit go back to pre-school.
But since you're so autistic with moving goalposts yourself I'll hit that spot of yours, yes, PC is cheaper than consoles in the long run.

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at least xbox actually gives games back. For $40 I've literally gotten more value than fucking steam sales. Any triple A title during steam sale is $5 minimum for example: dead space, bioshock, and darksiders.

PSN however is stealing my money

>>376800293
>anubis, undertale, one shot are pc exclusive
hmmm

>>376800293
>most furry art is posted on PC, not on console
SHOCKING

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>>376800293

it's a pokemon, my clueless little friend.

>>376800314
>5000$ for PC
>2000$ for monitor
>100$ for kickstarter game
>50$ for antivirus
>120$ for 2 controllers
>60$ for OS
>60$ for keyboard
>60$ for mouse

End yourself

>>376800467
That wasn't even my point to begin with, point is that you can have the same hardware for as long as you deem it acceptable by lowering your standards as years go by, that's why I mentioned 30 fps and 720p.

Also, a quick search on Amazon proved you wrong, I can still get the 780Ti, but why if I can get the 1050 or 1060, or an AMD equivalent for the same price?

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>>376800518
>AND he's an fedora-tier edgefag
Allow me to tip my hat to you, m'fur.

>>376800314
>$300 for gaming motherboard
>$400 for Intel CPU
>$600 for high end graphics card
>$200 for RAM """shortage"""
>$2000 to pre order HDR G-sync gaming monitor
>$200 for gaming keyboard
>$100 for gaming mouse
>$100 for gaming case
>$50 for gaming LEDs

Good goy!

>>376800475
We were talking about longevity costs you fucking PC imbecile. Learn to fucking read before responding to people and move your retarded goalposts every time your anus gets btfo you autistic ape.

>>376795596
Reminder that PC gamers are good with shit like Denuvo and paying for DLCs which came from Xbox and Microsoft themselves
Good job there man

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>>376800628

it's ok, sweetie. *pats*

it'll all be ok.

>>376800594
>lowering your standards
PC gamers can't help being beta cucks

>>376800645
I'm the original poster you underaged spast, so I know damn well about what I'm talking about, the retard here in both sides is definitely you, since the original damn post I talked about longevity of hardware, which you still failed to prove wrong and I further evolved the argument by adding more points which you just answered with shitty ad-hominems while giving nothing in return.

Kindly kill yourself.

>>376800749
Not an argument.
Good job.

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>daily reminder that PC games actually have to PAY ransomware or upgrade to Botnet 10

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Console gamers are the only reason PC gamers have any games

>>376800594
Of course you shouldn't buy a 780ti now, no one said that.

The claim was that if you bought one at release, you can still use it just fine now.

A 750ti or 660 (minimum spec) will still run 1080p ~30fps.

Truth be told I hate paid online, always have. But what can you do? This industry is already in a downward spiral. No us3 boycotting anything now. We had our chance to say no to this shit in the 7th gen, but we chose to continually give Sony and Microsoft money. Now all three are doing it, and one ia increasing the price of the yearly fee. There is no escaping this now

>>376795596
Only retarded 12 year olds play online games anyway. I play on PC btw.

>>376800764
>so I know damn well about what I'm talking about
Apparently you don't you miserable human abortion. I feel bad for your parents.

>>376797135
haha you know nothing about graphics cards

nice bait

>>376800827
Which I consider acceptable if the one using the hardware isn't autistic about graphics, 60fps and resolution.

>>376799857

I want to fuck that wolf.

>>376800845
Nice argument chap, you still failed to provide a single fucking valid point since the original post.
Keep going strong, just like the rope you're putting around your neck.

RMA yourself

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>>376800808
>PC gamers pay hundreds of dollars to upgrade their toasters every few years just so they can play inferior ports

>>376801003
>inferior ports

>same content, better framerate, higher resolution, better settings
>inferior
what

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>>376800816
>peasant farmers are the only reason the wealthy get to eat
really makes you think

>>376799013
>buy a complex piece of electronics
>it's nothing??

>be PC owner
>pirate game
>over my p2p service ransomware infects my pc
>no antivirus because /g/ hates them
>Pc files encrypted
>have to pay hundreds of dollars to save my files

>>376801045

you forgot
>smaller communities compared to their console counterparts

but at least you have that 4k monitor

>>376800990
>hurrr durrr I won I won because, baaaw go away

Abortion should be legal in all countries, my god

>>376801118
Gee I always wanted a larger community of ADHD kids yelling in mics

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>>376800808
>paying for windows

>>376800553
>20000$ bleeding edge 80 inch hdr 3d tv
>500$ hdr console
>500$ early online subscription
>120$ custom cod faggotry signaling control
>shitty cooling console died by heat
>500$ hrd console replacement
>2000$ bose house sound system

get out the breeding pool

>>376800816
What? Are you serious? Have you never heard of the most popular games on the planet?

League of Legends
DotA 2
World of Warcraft
Counter Strike: Global Offensive
Minecraft

All either PC exclusive or started on the PC.

>>376801139
I'm waiting for your shitty rebuttal about any of the points I brought up without resorting to ad-hominem.
You can answer with as many buzzwords and name calls all you want, I got all day.

>>376801140

whatever gets you to sleep at night, friend.

>>376801045
>more crashes
>inferior framerate
>missing textures
>worse graphics

>>376801102
I don't get it, why do you consolefags keep mentioning ransomware? You'd have to be /literally/ retarded to get that shit on your computer. And even if you did, most PC gamers have nothing of value on their hard drives anyways. Games can be redownloaded, save files are in the cloud. Nothing gets lost, just wipe the disk. Consider it spring cleaning.

>>376800004
>Meanwhile on PC you can play old games and new games.
>not mentioned:OS compatibility issues, OS issues, Hardware compatibility, games that simply wont work without a huge workaround (GFWL)

>>376801152
>pirating software

>>376795596
>Thread is STILL up
what in the fuck are the mods doing

>>376801183
I think I already answered, your only response was ad hominem. If you want to talk with people at this level seek your fellow autists in clinic maybe?

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>Daily reminder that some people actually WANT to PLAY ONLINE

I'm pretty happy that even Nintendo are now making those losers pay for the servers themselves.

>>376798176
>having friends

>>376801265
>huge compatibility issues that get fixed with either a VM or a community patch/mod
I never said it was easy, I said you can still play them.

>>376801175
>Have you never heard of the most popular games on the planet?

GTAV is more popular. PCocks had to beg for it.

>>376801175
>Lol
>Wow
>Minecraft

>>376801257
And if you have valuable files, and don't keep an unconnected backup, you have it coming.

>>376801297
Where is your answer then?
I'm waiting for the quote, because I'm damn sure that I answered with every argument with an argument myself that got name called.
So yeah, you're full of shit senpai, and I'm still waiting.

>>376799091
Are you all only ever using your computer to play games ?
I sure as hell don't.

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>Daily reminder that people actually enjoy HAVING FUN
God, you're pathetic.

>>376801362
>GTAV is more popular than Minecraft
At least try

>>376801175

are you joking? dota 2 barely manages to reach 900k, and that's on a good day.

overwatch has over 3 million people playing it daily.

>>376801257
british hospitals got cyberattacked destroying their IT structure. Very important data got lost that is vital for patients survival. People will die

>>376801424
Answer to what you mentally challenged ape? You said 780ti runs games good, I said no because Nier Automata runs worse than regular PS4. Your answer was "b-but you can upgrade it"! What else do you want? Confirmation that you are clinically retarded? Yes, you are. Enough?

>>376801503
They're also still running XP and the whole infrastructure just asks to be attacked. Which works with the "literally retarded" part.

Whoever didn't manage to keep patient-critical systems secure should be put on trial for negligent manslaughter.

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>>376801503
>>my video game box is better than yours
>>no mine is even better
>OH YEAH BUT HOSPITALS ARE GETTING HACKED AND PEOPLE ARE DYING
please go

>>376801491
>(((They))) say overwatch has over 3 million people playing it daily
Why is the fanbase mostly gone everywhere except leddit? Why arent there any tournaments anymore?

>>376801503
Ok and? Are they related to me? No? I don't care then

>>376801070
the games are made for the "peasants", the "wealthy" get the sloppy seconds. You got your analogy backwards

>>376801175
Thanks for proving my point

>>376801586
Good job proving that you're fucking wrong you mongoloid.
How is running a new games at 1080p 30fps bad?
All you did was name calling afterwards, holy shit are you retarded beyond repair.

>>376801070
Pretty sure wealthy people don't have to beg and wait. PC junkies however...

>playing video games online

>>376801586
You do realize that you just proved his point, right?

has nintendo gold started?

>>376801693
>How is running a new games at 1080p 30fps bad?

Because 30fps in fast paced game is not ok, even more because I can get better framerate on much CHEAPER hardware? You are too stupid to kill yourself, ask for medical help maybe.

>>376801753
>not playing real life games in real time

>>376801825
No, I don't. How?

>>376801841
Nah, won't happen until fall sometime.

We don't even know what it will cost yet, a rep said it would be less than $30 a year.

>>376801893
>enjoys spending his free time playing with young boys

>>376801873
And we've gone full fucking circle, good job retard.
Cheaper on the short run, more expensive on the long run.

I won't bother anymore, I was waiting for your retarded ass to go full circle and you just did, I won't bother arguing about this anymore because I already answered my PC is cheaper as well if you stick with your hardware.

Good job proving how much of a fucking retard you are m8, have a good one.

>>376801175
>World of Warcraft

This game require sub. PC cucks invented pay for online.

>>376801491
Are you delusional or what?

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>>376795596
Jokes on you i play on a PS2

>>376801994
Aside from mmos, what other pc games require pay to play online?

>>376801941
>>376801873
But it was proven already that PC is cheaper even if you pay a premium at the beginning, that's his whole point, are you being serious?

>>376795756
I have had a PS4 for two years and have never had PSN+

>>376801893
>about to go to a renaissance fair and do just that once I've had a couple eggs

>>376801981
>Cheaper on the short run, more expensive on the long run.

Nice argument you inbeed mongolid. I'm really convinced especially with GPU that runs game worse than PS4 but cost more with other parts.
Again, seek medical help.

>>376801970
I'm surprised they didn't bust it out with Mario Kart, seems like a missed opportunity for trials and extra money

>>376802052
>But it was proven already that PC is cheaper

Where? Some arguments?

>>376802083
Would also have angered a lot of people I think.

And they seem to be taking it nice and slow with rolling out the online infrastructure for Switch in general.

>>376801873
Never have I lost so many braincells reading an entire conversation convo as now, you literally missed every single point he tried to make, it's like you purposely forget about previous posts people make during a conversation to fit your agenda.
I'll use his words, kill yourself.

>>376797016
>host their own servers

Doesn't that entail a cost?

>>376802179
>not a single argument, just brainless ad hominem out of anal devastation

Please don't respond to me human abortion. Play your Nier at 30fps instead. You wasted enough of my time. Your parents dealing with your autism is enough. No more victims.

>>376797225
>>376797160
>>376797090

What the fuck is "reddit spacing"?

>>376802132
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3118250/software-games/9-reasons-why-pc-gaming-is-a-better-value-than-consoles.html

>>376802320
Not even him you retard kek, how salty can you get?

I play fighting games and everyone who plays those is on PS4 this gen so I don't see a problem

I buy maybe 2 games per year, 3 if there's a good exclusive

>>376802258
you literally just run some gratis software on your computer
thats it, free online
of course, if you're computer unliterate, you can pay someone else to do it for you

>>376796051
You dont need to have ps+ to play FF XIV
gets your facts straight before posting le meme picture

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>>376799136
>mfw I got to tell the Sony customer support guy exactly why I didn't want my PSN renewed
>BECAUSE YOU SEE I AM NOW MASTER RACE JENNY DO YOU UNDERSTAND

Wow anon, im sure you showed them huh?

>>376802387
>source from PC shill site
>arguments like you need PC anyway
>PSN sales don't exist
>only thing you have to upgrade is GPU
>claiming consoles cost 400$

How much more retarded you can get?

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>>376795596

>when you think console retards are a meme but it is in fact reality

>>376799023
Triggered, triggered hard.
I only buy games I like with free multiplayer because thank you PC.

>>376795596
>Tips WoW subscription

>>376802005

sure. i can be whatever you want, bb.

>>376802475
>just

Oh i see, its the "just brigade" again. Sorry anon i didn't know there would be a "just" involved.

>>376802753
PC retards do this more. Thousands of thousands payed for Star Citizen when game don't even exist actually and have no sign of being released. Can you imagine how dumb those cucks are?

>>376802556
>source from PC shill site
So?
>arguments like you need PC anyway
Is that wrong?
Nowadays people need it anyways for some kind of work or even casual browsing/information fetching.
>PSN sales don't exist
Not in the level of Steam, GOG, G2A, Kinguin and AllCdKeys
>only thing you have to upgrade is GPU
The past 7 years there has literally been no reason to upgrade anything than your GPU, prove me wrong.
>claiming consoles cost 400$
PS4 only started costing 250-300$ (new) after the PS4 Pro launched, and the PS4 Pro is close to 400$ at this moment.
What exactly is wrong with that statement?
It's at least over half-true, also, that article is from before PS4 Pro got released, so take that in mind.

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>>376795596

Daily reminder console gamers HAVE GAMES

>>376802879
its ok, now you know how easy server hosting is and why it's bullshit that you have to pay to play multiplayer.
maybe you can make better life choices from now on with your newfound knowledge

>>376803110
>So?
So it's clearly biased and hardly objective?
>Is that wrong
Yes? Also normal PC and gaming PC are different things. You need different CPU, GPU, more RAM, bigger HDD, everything.
>The past 7 years there has literally been no reason to upgrade anything than your GPU, prove me wrong.
New games demand more RAM and better CPU than games from 7 years go. Here I proved you wrong.
>What exactly is wrong with that statement?
None of consoles right now cost 400$. Article is outdated and wrong.

Modern console users are stupid.

>>376803331
>Also normal PC and gaming PC are different things.
Only in that the gaming PC needs to be more powerful. But the gaming PC makes the normal PC redundant. Hence, you save that cost.
Also, ps4 pro is $400.

>>376802556
>only thing you have to upgrade is GPU

Not far off. The processor I got in 2013 is still more powerful than the one in the PS4 pro. That's how dogshit CPU is in modern consoles

>>376803256
Yeah guess i can "just" do that. I love hoe PC is always the "most convienent" until it absolutely is not. Then the "just" brigade always come out.
>just find a patch
>just run the buggy emulated version
>just don't play that game, its still shot on console anyway
>just do some troubleshooting, the most i ever spent trouble ahooting a game was just over 1 HOUR

just. Just. JUST.

It's shit but I only play single-player so it doesn't affect me.

>>376803331
>So it's clearly biased and hardly objective?
Except this article isn't?
>Yes? Also normal PC and gaming PC are different things. You need different CPU, GPU, more RAM, bigger HDD, everything.
Pre-Builds for normies cost the same as a gaming PC you build yourself, the only main difference is usually the GPU.
Normie PCs usually HAVE gaming CPUs in them, the only difference is that they're non-K variants that you can't OC, RAM is the usual 8GiB and sometimes 12 to 16GiB, and I'll ignore you mentioning the HDD, had to be a joke, because I doubt you're actually that gullible...
>New games demand more RAM and better CPU than games from 7 years go. Here I proved you wrong.
Doesn't mean you can't play them at 720p or at 1080p 30fps. Here I proved you wrong.
>None of consoles right now cost 400$. Article is outdated and wrong.
Oh sweet summer child.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Playstation+pro

but really, it is just 5 dollars
you can buy like only 2 beers with that

>>376803470
>Only in that the gaming PC needs to be more powerful. But the gaming PC makes the normal PC redundant
Why should I buy system that play only shitty indie games? Might as well buy Ouya at this point
PS4 Pro is cheaper on Amazon.
>>376803509
>Not far off
It is far off. 7yr old CPU will shit itself with new games.

>>376803529
PC at least has options if you want them.

How is this worse than console?

>just stop caring about framerate
>just hope that the developers get round to making a patch
>just pay the online tip

>>376803668
I'd probably get more enjoyment out of two beers or a fuckload of sweets than some shitty indie games.

>>376803668
That's 5 beers here.
>>376803703
Nice attempt to switch the topic. We were talking about hardware, not muh exclusives and muh pc only has indie.

>>376803704
I actually agree that PC is better, but the "JUST" brigade always fuck me off. Im tired of a bunch of losers admiting there ARE downsides to it all but downplaying them to "just" in order to save face on fucking /v/ of all places.

"Just" is the worst kind of apologist.

>>376803793
I mean in a bar

>>376803861
If you piss away money in bars that's your problem. 300% markup when you can just hang out at some guys place instead.

>>376803703
>It is far off. 7yr old CPU will shit itself with new games.
You're wrong, a 1st gen i7 can run games perfectly fine, the 720p / 1080p 60fps rule still applies here.
There have barely been IPC improvements from Intel since 4th gen, hell even 3rd gen, that's why AMD Zen is such a big deal because Intel might stop being such retarded jews and actually improve their CPUs again, which they stopped seriously since they released the i7 model.

So once again, you're wrong, once more.

>>376803819
And you WILL notice it now by the way. Whenever PC shows some shitty characteristics as a platform or something is clearly shown to be anoyingly fucky, you will see "just, holy shit" come out as a defence everytime.

>>376803583
>Except this article isn't?
Considering site yes it is?
>Normie PCs usually HAVE gaming CPUs in them
No, they don't you idiot. Office like Dell PC don't have 16GB Ram and CPU to run games like Witcher 3.
>Doesn't mean you can't play them at 720p or at 1080p 30fps. Here I proved you wrong.
For many AAA games it's actually lower like unplayable 15fps. Console games don't run at 720p. I thought we were talking about equal PC? Now we bring worse to the party to match consoles? Wow, you just went full circle of retardation.

>>376803932
Typo, meant 1080p 30fps.

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>all this fat neckbeards autisticly screeching about their exclusives and console wars while we get to decide their pathetic hobies future with CoD, FIFA, Minecraft, GTA and many more

>>376803932
>You're wrong, a 1st gen i7 can run games perfectly fine, the 720p / 1080p 60fps rule still applies here.

If you play only pixelated indie games than yes. But some people demand something more. As always you are completely clueless about PC and console hardware.

>>376803996
Well, he's wrong, a 7 years old CPU will probably shit the bed.

But a 6 years old 2600k will still do perfectly fine.

>>376803969
Kek. That actually IS funny.

>>376795596
im just buying 14 day trials for 1zł (0.25$) xD

>>376803945
>Considering site yes it is?
Not an argument, why are you still trying?
You could ignore this part of the argument and just give that one up, but you're still holding to it kek
No, they don't you idiot. Office like Dell PC don't have 16GB Ram and CPU to run games like Witcher 3
They carry a 7700 in them, you're saying that's not a gaming CPU? It's just not unlocked, good job ignoring the rest of the sentence I provided in that point and good job moving goalposts.
>For many AAA games it's actually lower like unplayable 15fps. Console games don't run at 720p. I thought we were talking about equal PC? Now we bring worse to the party to match consoles? Wow, you just went full circle of retardation.
We never talked about equality, we talked about longivity, as in, cheaper in the short run, more expensive in the long run in buying a Console in comparison to making a PC yourself, am I wrong on that? Wasn't the original post a link to an article exactly proving that point? Why are you still in this thread if you move goalposts every single time?

>>376795596
>PC cocks have to pay more for electricity

kek

>>376803703
>7yr old CPU will shit itself with new games.

Where is this 7 year thing coming from? If you got a mid range CPU like an i5 in 2013 when the next gen consoles came out then you are still ahead of them

>>376804047
It won't.
CPU bottleneck is real, but you can still play at 1080p 30fps or even 720p 60fps, which is the whole point of the discussion, longevity, the ability to play new games even though you own a shitbox, which you can't with a console the moment you decide to upgrade to a newer generation.

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Everyone above me is getting trolled.

*Hacking in process*

>>376804228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyFF_qSKiL4

Prey, 6 years old CPU, 5 years old GPU, 1080p 60fps medium settings.

>>376804359
I know it will run it at 1080p 60fps I'm supporting that claim, the "it won't" comes from you saying that a 1st gen i7 will shit itself completely and not being able to do that too.

>>376804138
>Not an argument, why are you still trying?
It is argument. Just because you can't prove it wrong it's not "non argument".
>They carry a 7700 in them, you're saying that's not a gaming CPU?
Since it can't run new games yes it's not? Why should I get gaming system than can't run games?
>We never talked about equality, we talked about longivity, as in, cheaper in the short run, more expensive in the long run in buying a Console in comparison to making a PC yourself, am I wrong on that?
By comparing similar perfomance price. If I have 10 yr old PC that can't even play 2010 games and above, yes it will be cheaper than you oaf. But what's the point? I want to play new games. Might as well compare price of PS2 to PC now which will destroy your argument too. You are retarded, but you probably know that already.

But I dont because all the games I play are sp experiences. Bloodborne, Persona 5, Nioh, Dishonored 2, Prey, Witcher 3, Fallout 4 etc

>>376804184
>Where is this 7 year thing coming from?
Here:
>>376803110
>The past 7 years there has literally been no reason to upgrade anything than your GPU, prove me wrong.

>in 2013
Console lifespan last 6-7 years. 3-4 yr old CPU is hardly argument.

>>376804531
>3-4 yr old CPU is hardly argument.
2600k, released 2011, is still comparable to new i5s.

>>376804431
>It is argument. Just because you can't prove it wrong it's not "non argument".
I don't have to prove anything wrong because there was nothing to prove, you said that it was a biased article just because it's on a website that has PC on his dns-name, which is a retarded claim even though the article is not biased at all if you bothered reading it.
>Since it can't run new games yes it's not? Why should I get gaming system than can't run games?
Except it can?
The problem in that case is the GPU not the CPU then, you do realize you're being wrong on that regard and actually supporting my argument right?
Office PCs are usually prebuilds from Dell, HP, ASUS, Lenovo or whatever manufacturer and they usually slap the exact same components as a Gaming PC a normal person would use if they build it themselves, the only difference is:
- They don't have a GPU to play games, at most they have CUDA GPUs for modeling.
- They have a non-K variant of the same CPU which only demising return is not being able to Overclock it for higher clockspeeds.
Aside from those Office Prebuilds have the EXACT SAME specs, end up being more expensive than a gaming PC you make yourself.
I don't see what you're trying to prove here, the initial argument was that Office PCs cost the same, have the same hardware that can't be OC'd and that don't have GPUs, while Gaming PCs have the same Hardware that can be OC'd and have a GPU to play games on while being cheaper than office.
>By comparing similar perfomance price. If I have 10 yr old PC that can't even play 2010 games and above, yes it will be cheaper than you oaf. But what's the point? I want to play new games. Might as well compare price of PS2 to PC now which will destroy your argument too. You are retarded, but you probably know that already.
Why are we talking about Core2Quad PCs now? We're talking about 7 year old PCs, stop moving your goalposts again, if you have no idea about hardware then don't talk about it like you do know.

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>>376795769

>>376799631
Price of pc built to game 1k
Price of ps3 at launch 500
Price of xbox 360 at launch 300
Price of ps4 at launch 400

Oh would you look at that, 3 machines to compete with 1 machine that costs less with the sole advantage being exclusives, not to mention the cons.

>>376804531
>Console lifespan last 6-7 years. 3-4 yr old CPU is hardly argument
You're fucking retarded, Intel did barely any IPC Improvements since the 4th gen, and the 7th gen doesn't blow the 1st gen out of the fucking water like for example a Pentium 2 did with a Pentium 2 or a Pentium 4/Athlon 64 did with a Pentium 3.

Just stop posting about hardware if you have no idea about it.

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>be pc master race
>walk into this bait thread for the kek
>people are unironically arguing

What the fuck is wrong with you degenerates?

>>376804878
define "quality"

>>376804767
>I don't have to prove anything wrong
Because you can't. You can only act autistic.
>Aside from those Office Prebuilds have the EXACT SAME specs
You must be really underage... no. PC I use for browsing and doc editing have completely different specs. I can't play new games on my PC, I would need CPU, RAM, GPU, PSU upgrade. Yes, I need PC for every day work, I don't need gaming PC for every day work.
>We're talking about 7 year old PCs
7yr old PC can't run new AAA and many AA games. Show me Nier Automata running on 7yd old build. You are retarded. Again.

>>376796156
jews

>>376804910
Why should I buy 3 consoles? Maybe we add tablet, laptop and smartphone to PC price?
>>376804935
Okay Jimmy play your imaginary non indie games on 6yr old CPU's claiming you know anything about hardware. This place is full of people like you so I guess you found your place on earth finally.

>>376805165
>Okay Jimmy play your imaginary non indie games on 6yr old CPU's claiming you know anything about hardware.
Show me a game that won't run on a 6 years old 2600k.

>>376804910
>PC built for games 1k
>PS3 at launch 500
>PC upgrade + 700$
>PS4 400

1700 vs 900

Console win again

>>376805034
>You must be really underage... no. PC I use for browsing and doc editing have completely different specs. I can't play new games on my PC, I would need CPU, RAM, GPU, PSU upgrade. Yes, I need PC for every day work, I don't need gaming PC for every day work.
HOLY SHIT MAN, are you that retarded or do you just read shit without trying to understand it?
AN OFFICE PC HAS THE SAME SPECS AS A GAMING PC EXCEPT FOR SOME "FEATURES".
OFFICE CAN'T UNLOCK THEIR CPUS
OFFICE DOES NOT HAVE A GPU TO PLAY VIDYA AT HIGH FRAMERATES
OFFICE PCS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A SELF MADE GAMING PC

YOU BUY WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU NEED, BUT YOU CAN STILL WORK AND DO RESEARCH WITH BOTH OF THEM.

THE MORE LOGICAL CHOICE WOULD BE TO MAKE YOUR OWN GAMING PC WHICH IS CHEAPER THAN OFFICE, YOU CAN PLAY VIDYA AND STILL DO EVERYTHING A OFFICE PC WITHOUT A GPU COULD DO.

Was it easier to read and understand it in caps now you fucking autist?
>7yr old PC can't run new AAA and many AA games. Show me Nier Automata running on 7yd old build. You are retarded. Again
YES THEY CAN, HOLY SHIT, why did I bother explaining the technical terms to your retarded autistic ass?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW85piahc38

Here is a damn video of someone playing CURRENT NEXT GEN vidya with a 1st gen i7, now go fucking kill yourself.

I'm triggered as fuck, not gonna bother trying to argue with your retarded ass, I kinda get that other dude that fucked off too after trying to explain his shit to you, he was completely right, you're an autistic mongoloid inbred retard that needs to RMA himself.

Get a rope and kill yourself, I'm fucking out of this thread, FUCK SAKE.

>>376798959
my 7850 still holds it's own even today

>>376805290
I'm using that pc right now though. My sole upgrade was a second ssd that I literally haven't opened since black friday...3 years ago now? I wonder where it is.

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Only reason I prefer PC is because I can pirate games, feels good not to pay for games.

>>376805224
You're being kind to him, take it a step higher.
>>376805165
Hey retard, show me a game that won't run on a 1st gen i7, I bet your ass you could run games on decent framerates with a Core2Quad which is even older.

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>>376804989

>>376805472
kojima hasn't made a good game in so long all his good games are perfectly emulatable
try again

>>376805359
>that capslock shouting
Looks like your brain reached meltdown. Maybe you need to kill yourself.

>AN OFFICE PC HAS THE SAME SPECS AS A GAMING PC EXCEPT FOR SOME "FEATURES".
No you fucking retard. They have different specs, they are different hardware. I have office PC, can't play new games on it.
>YES THEY CAN, HOLY SHIT
No, they can't you fucking retard. Show me 7yr old PC running Witcher 3 or AC Unity (including 7yr old GPU, RAM, PSU everything). After your attempt neck yourself already and do world a favor at least once in your miserable life.

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>>376805569

>>376805597
Bloodborne II is not out yet, could be utter garbage for all we know
see: Dark Souls II

>>376805034
>Show me Nier Automata running on 7yd old build. You are retarded. Again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlijDoKERWY

dualcore (there were better options at the time) from 2008
very low tier GPU from 2010

It looks like ass because duh.

>>376805359
So this is the PC audience... woah...

>>376805589
How old do you think a GTX 670 is?
That video literally has that retard, and his whole point was the fact that you can get the same PC, except not unlocked CPU and without a GPU for cheaper if you buy an unlocked CPU and with a GPU.

All you did so far was support his claim while repeating the same brainless shit over and over again.

He's right, you're pretty retarded.

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>>376805648
800x600

>>376805652
You would snap like that too if somebody was as dense as that retard.

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>>376805724
Well that's what you get with a GPU that was a potato even on release.

>>376805705
>How old do you think a GTX 670 is?

Since when office PC's for Word documents have GTX 670?

You are still retarded but keep going. Whyt?

>>376805724
To be fair, pretty shitty specs even during that time, but hey, dude can still play the game.

>>376805743
Pretty sure you are retard man.

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>>376805640

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>daily reminder pc players have to put up with pic related

also

>steam owns all your games
>can block you at any point
>no physical copies so you own nothing
>no noteworthy exclusives in about 10 years
>started early access, unfinished, kickstarter garbage
>you are all fat cunts

>>376805812
So PC can only be cheap as console when playing games at lower resolution and framerate? Looks we finally got to conclusion.

>>376796221
>fake news or old news

>>376805890

t. can't pirate games 4 free

>>376795596
but you pay the internet bill every month

>>376803969
>IMPLYING GTA IS BAD

STOP THIS FUCKING MEME /V/ SERIOULSY ITS NOT FUNNY