What is the best loot grind game there is?

Honestly, Borderlands.

Diablo 3

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>>376792815

Diablo 2. I like going through all the mods ever and seeing all the weird new and oftentimes game-breaking loot.

>>376793051
Honestly, I put countless hours into D2 as a kid, but nowdays I can't get past the graphics any longer.

I've put probably 1,000 hours into PoE and it's a really great game. The expansion is coming out next month which is going to add 6 new acts and a lot of other things, so I'm burned out atm.

Grim dawn is also really great, but again - expac coming soon so I'm waiting for that as well.

I'll have to agree that borderlands is great as well, but that isn't a game you can play for ~too~ long before it gets stale.

Path of Exile.

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>>376792815

>>376792897
This

does D3 ever go on sale? I'd get it if it does

Diablo 3 is pretty much perfect atm despite the /v/ hate everything meme

>>376792815
Diablo II is the pinnacle
2nd best is Torchlight II

any mandatory mods for Torchlight 2?

>>376793668
>implying
that youv played diablo 1

>>376793668
>didn't liked second
>liked 3rd and addon
Shiteater.

>>376792897
Honestly Diablo 3 is complete garbage.
There is no difficulty in the game, because as soon as it starts getting hard you just turn down the difficulty.

There is difference in builds either, you just find a set of armor, and then literally the rest of the time you're playing the game you are just looking for +5 points of strength on that same piece of armor.

Path of Exile is better in literally every aspect of the game except for how smooth the controls are.

>>376792815
Is there anywhere where I can legally purchase a copy of Diablo 1? Online or otherwise?

I wanna play it but Blizzard don't even fucking sell it.

>>376794020
>There is no difficulty in the game, because as soon as it starts getting hard you just turn down the difficulty.
>there is no difficulty, because I choose for there to be none

>>376792815
Destiny

>>376794020
>Honestly Diablo 3 is complete garbage.
The whole genre is. Diablo 3 is no outlier or special case.

>>376793923
The uninstall mod, HAHAHA HO HA

On a serious note the game is a clusterfuck and becomes even more of a clusterfuck with mods. Install some HUD, small QoL mods and synergies if you want to have some kind of balance.

>>376794145
theres no fbalance point between nuking everything, or getting nuked yourself.

braindead game where you chase higher numbers for hours on end.

dont even get me started on that art style, jeebus

>>376793543
Yea one big problem I have with Borderlands is the lack of depth in the skill trees. Coupled with 2 and PQ dumbing down mechanics and diversity for BIGGER NUMBERS! Is the same horseshit that has made D3 a piece of shit.

>>376794304
Every single sentence you said there could be applied to Diablo 2.

>>376794020
> Path of Exile
Would be awesome, if it got normal visuals. You know, this 4 acts look like shit with monsters of shit color, so you wouldn't see them on the ground (act 1), a bit not-so-shit forest (act 2), good, but completely copied from diablo 2 act 3 including both jungle ruins and creepy bloody mess in underground temple (act 3), shit and shit again with literally bowels full of shit and multiple anus entering on last boss. I would continue play it, but visuals suck hard. Body explosions are good though.

>>376794334
>Every single sentence you said there could be applied to [video game title]

>>376794419
It's almost like the entire genre is creatively bankrupt trash.

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>>376794078
No. It is abandonware. Pic related.

>Blackthorne
>The Lost Vikings
>Rock 'n' Roll Racing
>they are all emulators packed into an .exe
>NO DIABLO 1

What the hell Blizzard?

Here is a Diablo 1 .iso
https://archive.org/details/Diablo_1996_Blizzard

>>376794382
I agree. Add in the purposefully short camera range, gimmicked color schemes like the act 4 boss and certain maps in the labyrinth which is just short cuts for "difficulty".

>>376794456
Nah, PoE has a lot of unique things that actually make it difficult.
For one, you have to do ascendancies, which can kill you easily no matter your gear level, you actually need to be good at the game to get through them
It has so many unique items and passives that there are new builds that nobody has thought of coming out every day
Even on softcore you still lose experience on death, so if you suck you'll never level up.

>>376794304
Who the fuck plays ARPGs for a mechanical skill challenge? Everyone plays for theorycrafting. There's no challenge, only loot checks.

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>>376794020
Actually the issue with D3 is almost the opposite. The first 4 hours or so is you at the beginning of a season trying to reach level 70, which isn't hard, it's just annoying. The next couple of hours is spent getting the season starter set for gearing. Once you're level 70, paragon 100, and have at least one full set with a handful of useful legendaries the next 50 hours are spent looking for those one or two legendaries that literally make the build useful. You spend a lot of this time at Torment 6-8 because you fucking need those 2 legendaries that give you massive percentage buffs to your damage and survivability. Then once you get them after spending thousands of blood shards and running hundreds of rifts you can start doing T13+ up until GR 100-110 just hoping to get every item you already have, but better. Oh, by the way, hope you're playing a meta build for that season too otherwise you'll literally be dead weight on any party.

The issue is, unless you like that sort of digging through the dirt for diamonds playstyle you aren't gonna like the game. I spent literally hundreds of hours looking for one belt during Season 8 and when I finally got it, I didn't get some sense of satisfaction, it just made me hate the game because one piece was all it took to go from doing GR 70-75 to GR 90+. The game is so fucking specific loot heavy that it becomes a needle in the haystack type game where everything but the thing you're looking for is garbage.

I'm still having fun with the Necromancer beta though, fucking Blizzard.

>>376794705
<have had my bnet since 2004 and own every blizzard game
<signed up for every beta since
<have never gotten into one

>>376794705
The ancient grind is why I continually quit early in seasons. The fact you can't progress easily past T12 without an ancient weapon, then you can't get past GR 70 because you have to grind flawless imperials and legendary gem levels for that cube recipe that is just essentially stacking more paragons.

>>376793796
In D3 I hate that VERY linear loot progression. With every level up on your character you will find the piece of loot with just a little better stats than you had before. So you pick it up and replace it. Rinse and repeat from level 1 to 80. You'll hardly ever find that ultra rare item that gives you a massive jump in power like in D2.
And I hate that you are more likely to find items that fit you character with skills and stats. I like the complete randomness of D2.
One more goddamn thing is casualised itemization. You can wield almost any weapon for any character, and it will add to skill damage. Put two handed axe on a necromancer? Of course you can! And it will add damage to his Fire Bats spell! What the fuck.
I liked D3 for several reasons, but looting is redundant and gets boring quickly. D2 looting system is far superior

>>376794819
Same shoes as you until this D3 Necromancer Beta. I remember back in the late 90s I was rabidly obsessed with Starcraft and Diablo. Blizzard was by far my favorite developer. I remember signing up for every alpha and beta I could with them and was let down over and over and over again. Now that I really don't care all that much they sent me a Necromancer beta and I'm having some alright fun with it.

Borderlands system seems like it should be fun and interesting but it isnt.

After a few hours into Borderlands 2 you realize that every gun is the fucking same, with slightly different stats and looks. And then you find a gun you like and its worthless in 2 hours because the guns stats are related to its level, and a level 19 gun sucks dick against enemies that are level 30.

I think I would have enjoyed it much more if guns were really, really random, and once you get ahold of some good ones they could carry you through the game, instead of relying on the level of the gun.

>>376792815
I find it pretty comfy to see numbers go up once a season in Diablo 3.

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d3 is carrot on a stick game with dumb game mechanics, Cant trade, cant pvp, leveling is a completely useless mechanic because the game essentially begins at max level because itemization is so retarded. No runewords, shit crafting, so much of the game doesn't matter because the game revolves around greater rifts. Sure the controls and gameplay are tight, but there is nothing underneath that at all.

>yay im level 70 now I get to go on the hamster wheel to do rifts to get gear to do greater rifts to get gear to do higher greater rifts to get ancient gear to do even higher greater rifts to get primal ancient gear to do higher greater rifts for no apparent reason

>>376795210

And by "really, really" random I meant I wnat guns to have tons and tons of different modifiers on them.

Like say theres modifyers like "gravity defying bullets arc upwards instead of downwards", or "bullets exit barrel and spiral creating a bullet tornado", or "every 4th bullet is a homing bullet". Just all sorts of random zany shit thrown into the mix, so when a gun spawns its not just "DERP its just a plain gun with worse accuracy than your current gun, but has fire element special effect".

I want players to meet up and compare their crazy ass guns they've gotten that do totally bizarre stuff.

>>376792815
D2 is the best game in its genre, but for you I would recomend D3 since you most likely dont have a few hundred or thousand hours to spend on a game.
Theres like 1 in 800 000 drop chance of several items from bosses on the hardest difficulty in D2.
Nothing wrong with that, but the game is certainly built for botting (and not playing)

>>376795367
One of D3 problems today is metagaming, when you can only play 1-2 builds in season to be effective. You look at the newest guide for that single build and go build exactly what it says. I wanna play different skills because there are so many interesting things with mods, but i'm not allowed to since only one of them works.

Phantasy star online.

>>376795367
>Cant trade
wrong
>cant pvp
HotS is D3 pvp
>leveling is a completely useless mechanic because the game essentially begins at max level
1/2 the game is getting there, the other 1/2 is after
>No runewords
there's runes
>shit crafting
it's not deep but it certainly isn't shit
>so much of the game doesn't matter because the game revolves around greater rifts
only the end game does

>>376792815
Ragnarok and D2 were my go to.

>>376793668
trying to activate some almonds with that pic hey?

>>376795728
>>No runewords
>there's runes
Holy shit. How to tell someone didn't play D2 right fucking there. The runes in D3 aren't even remotely the same thing.

>>376796108
Close enough tho

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Path of exile, I had to stop playing it because I became addicted as fuck and racked up 120 hours over two weeks on steam consistently for a month

pic related is my gear on one of the characters I nolifed to 95, those are probably the most expensive boots in the game, an exception being the same boot but with a decent corruption.

>>376796264
What the fuck am I reading?

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>>376796295
>leather belt

>>376796509
I was close to getting HH when I stopped playing

In the meantime I was using that, for some reason I didn't have a crystal one

ARPGs are just shitty roguelikes.

>>376793668
(You)

>>376793796
It's the exact opposite. Closer to mobile game or MMO that you login in every month but don't actually enjoy playing it at all.

>>376794020
None of this is true at all

>>376792897
>>376793682
fucking retards, d3 has one of the worst loot systems ever,it belongs to a MMO

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>>376792815
poe but with d2 being still unsurpassed in many areas, just outdated in presentation

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>>376797041

>>376797041
>D3 better story than D2
that was quick, into the trash it goes

>>376797041

What kind of fucking retard made this?

>>376797041
This must have gotten quite the you's when it just came out.

Loot grinder games just aren't for me it seems.
I remember getting a beta key for Path of Exile on here of all places and made a duel wielding duelist with crit focus so pretty standard and the hacking and slashing was good. Good loot was rarer back then but so were monsters with bloated everything. Vaal Oversoul was the last boss back then and pretty hard to beat due to limited quality loot and less skills but it was fun joining a casual group or solo'ing. I still played after the full release but you already felt that melee without quirks or quick movement had no chance in the higher difficulties.

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Runescape
Both versions. EoC isn't nearly as unbalanced and horrible as it was on launch

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>>376797112

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMkiEx1mmg

>>376798125
Retarded.

>>376798125
are you even trying

>>376793796
>Diablo 3 is pretty much perfect
Diablo 3 is oversimplified garbage. I should've dropped it the moment I first picked up a spear with a sorceress and for some reason my spells started doing double the damage than with whatever wand or something I had equipped before, instead of spending a week figuring out just how shit the entire system is.

>>376794681
then, what is the point on liking Diablo 3 if you like theorycraft? Because all sets, and legendaries in general, are constantly under a balancement which Blizzard use it to tell you what you have to play if you want to beat the higher levels of torment, there are only 2 or 3 ways to build a character, the rest of them are just garbage with sparkles

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>>376794020
>There is no difficulty in the game, because as soon as it starts getting hard you just turn down the difficulty.
Stop sucking at vidya.

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>>376798125
Step up your game m8!

>>376798125
kill yourself

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>>376792897
>be loot grind game
>season journey gives guaranteed set armor
>legs can be crafted or gambled
what did they mean by this?

>>376793668
(You)