Dawn of War is dead

>>376792617
that's a lot for RTS that not SC2

>>376792617
>No Tyranids

>>376792703
Its diddly fucking squat for a newly released game, even an RTS. AoM and AoE2 both did better at relaunch. And both DoW1/2 did better in its first month.

>>376792869
back in a day when RTS was big ofc, but now no one needs an RTS games anymore these days.

>>376793117
These new RTS games die because they are fundamentally shit. Had they just fucking remade DoW1 this wouldnt have happened. It doesnt take much to look at DoW3 and see its just a rubbish RTS thats a total mess.

Or they could have done what everyone has been telling them since DoW2, which was to make a bloody 40k CoH game.

Also, AoM and AoE2 sold 5m between them. The market is still there.

>>376792617
Press F to Fuck RTS genre
Good riddance finally

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>>376792617
Just gotta finish getting every Eldar elite to level 10 and I'll have unlocked everything this game has to offer. The game was definitely super disappointing though, I'd even have taken a Dawn of War 2 2 over this.

>>376793226
That's the opinion of a retard who thinks DoW3 is MOBA

>>376793363
>strawman and ad hominem
Great argument kid, you sure showed me with your no points.

>>376793382
Yep, it's not like DoW3 hate bandwagon consists of literal mouthbreathers

>>376793363
>DoW3 is a good RTS game
Have you even played it? Its probably one of the worst RTS games of all time.

Insanely unbalanced map control system, way too much micro, completely unsatisfying combat. Literally DoW1 is better, just straight up. And even I prefer 2 over 1 but I would take 1 over this.

Its funny the only thing that united the 1 and 2 fanbases is how shit 3 is.

>>376793442
>more ad hominem
Sure thing anon, the game has no players because people on /v/ say its bad, rather than the fact its a poorly made turd of a game thats not enjoyable to play.

>>376793450
I played DoW1 though.
It was boring spamfest with no micro, ugly graphics and idiotic gameplay systems like "morale" and "cover".

>>376793504
Sayeth the retard who shitposted this board with "DoW3 IS MOBA OMG" for months prior to launch.

>>376793226
18 years since aoe2 and 15 years since aom and only 5m. There is a reason why rts market is dead and to make some profits you have to make something new in genre, because you can't compete with SC2

>>376793442
>it's not like DoW3 hate bandwagon consists of literal mouthbreathers
Mate the only mouthbreather here is the person claiming a bad game is good which is you.

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>>376793450
>believing autistic Warhammer fans have a right to opinion on anything

>>376793604
Spamming "DOW3 IS MOBA" like you did makes for a retard. Sorry.

>>376793576
>Sayeth the retard who shitposted this board with "DoW3 IS MOBA OMG" for months prior to launch.
Oh boy more strawman and more ad hominem

Maybe you could point us to the post where I say its a MOBA when I obviously called it an RTS?

>>376793590
Those are the sales for the RE-RELEASES, the core games both made millions more you uneducated moron.

Give DoW to the ruskies/europeans, goddammit.

Canadians cannot make games anymore, they can only cuck.

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>they could have vastly worked on the Retribution campaign and made it into a fully fledged squad RTS/RPG hybrid with a Risk styled map system like in Dark Crusade and Soulstorm
>they could have added options to get custom squad members like in XCOM where death is permanent and you have to manage your global resources to recruit more or build HQs in different planets
>we could have had a style where you start with the entire galaxy under your control and have to face an endless Ork Waaagh or Tyranid swarm and see how long you hold out
>we didn't get any of this
>we didn't even get Necrons while we fought in a fucking tomb world
>all we got was a single Khorne demon and an insanely mediocre and easy as fuck campaign with no thought or creativity behind it

what do you expect when you change what kind of RTS the game is every time you make a new one.

>>376792703

thats a lot for RTS but not a lot for a MOBA

>>376793652
You're literally the only one in the thread saying that. DoW3 is an RTS. Its also a shit RTS.

Do developers even make RTSes anymore?

The last non-remaster RTS I know of is Halo Wars 2

>>376793742
Not really, no.

They cant tell the difference between games like AoE/SupCom/CoH and games like LoL/DOTA so we keep getting all these shitty crossover features like a big focus on hero units and micro.

DoW3 has even more micro than SC2, and look how fucking dead SC2 is outside of Korea because of it. No one likes having to mashing M1 and attack orders to dodge grenades continuously.

>>376793679
That's nu-Relic for you. And said studio made fucking HOMEWORLD, dammit.

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>>376792617
>make a sequel to a beloved RTS series that had tons of fans for what is was
>make it just a StarCraft 2 clone with a 40K skin
Why can't developers learn from other people's mistakes?

>>376793679
Risk style map was shit though.
DoW 1 and winter asssault were the last good campaigns

>>376793742
Nobody wants to do RTS because to make a good one you have to be good at designing a game, first, then create an interesting world and lore, add a shitton of animations, then do a shitton of balancing, then a robust multiplayer with a nice singleplayer, then try to sell it to people.

It's the best kind of videogames but the payoff isn't good for lazy/non-visionary devs. So they stick to the rail shotoers.

>>376793679
They could have turned this into an actual MOBA and it would have been great.

Like seriously, everything is there for this game to work as a MOBA. I would have preferred that a lot to this.

>>376793847
The old guard has left, its not the same people who used to make RTS games there.

>>376793742
Cossack 3 you fucking fool.

The hatred devs are also making a RTS.

>>376792617
>it's dead!
>most players needed for a game is 6
>2,818 playing recently


I don't think you know what dead means

>>376793849
Why did you post a blank image?

>>376793734
Yep sure that brown strip on the back of your pants is not shit. Or it's not your shit. Or they made you to shit your own pants at gunpoint. I totally believe you.

Like, how do you fuck up fucking DAWN OF FUCKING WAR? Man even if they were literally braindead they could have just remastered fucking DoW1 while porting DoW2 assets. Also what's the fucking purpose of bringing old characters for campaign when they can't hire old VAs back?

>>376793935
>semantics
'dead' for a video game means its failed and its playerbase has dwindled to unplayable amounts. Good luck finding a match that doesnt take 10 hours to get one.

Enjoy the spoonfeed newfriend.

>>376793879
No it's because the fanbase is autistic and their standard is actually bad, poorly aged games, like AoE II, DoW1 etc. So when you make gameplay improvements they throw tantrum and start hate bandwagon on your forums, calling your game "MOBA". So it's better to just make an actual MOBA and drop this toxic, obsolete fanbase altogether.

>>376794084
Its obvious interns made this. They probably never played DoW1 or 2 before.

>>376794128
>standard is actually bad, poorly aged games, like AoE II, DoW1
Go away Relic. Calling great games shit to try and save face you failed with DoW3 isnt going to save your sales.

>>376794128
>gameplay
>IMPROVEMENTS
>by removing fucking EVERYTHING that made DoW DoW
Lelic shill fuck off.

>>376793935
you'd get along with the battleborn playerbase before the studio cut support entirely

>>376794107
>can literally go to browse for matches and there are dozens of them to join instantly
>game has more players than both other Dawn of Wars

It's not a failure and it's far from dead

>>376794128
>calling your game "MOBA"
I dont think DoW3 is a MOBA, but

>To win you have to destroy a Core
>To get to that core you have to destroy a turret
>To open that turret you have to destroy a shield

That sure as hell sounds a lot like a MOBA

meanwhile lets look at any other RTS game modes
>Destroy a wonder
>Destroy all units and buildings
>Economic victory
>Time victory
>King of the Hill victory

>>376794187
>Calling great games shit
Yep sure and Ultima I is still the best RPG to date

>>376794190
DoW1 was a shitty WC3 clone, to begin with.

>>376794260
>comparing the competitive fps genre to the RTS genre

it's more successful than literally 98% of the genre. Find me a rts that isn't Starcraft that has more players than that.

>>376794287
>>can literally go to browse for matches and there are dozens of them to join instantly
Nope, its dead outside the EU and US

>It's not a failure
Pfhthaha, Sure thing anon. 5k players and only 200k sales for a AAA game with poor reviews from players. Great 'success'

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>>376794128
>the wheel works fine 20 years ago
>i-it's shit now we need something modern o-obsolete

>>376794287
>>376794335
>denial
Lelic pls.

>>376794376
>Nope, its dead outside the EU and US
>outside the EU and US

I actually laughed out loud

>>376792617
Good. Better make a tps game next time. rtsmeme need to die.

>>376794376
see
>>376794356

>>376794376
>Any DoW games
>AAA

What in the fuck am I reading?

>>376794439
Relic totally deserved this.
They had years to switch to normal genres. Instead they decided to keep pandering to RTS autists and got burnt.

>>376794376
>its dead outside the EU and US

So in other words it's fine?

>>376794519
They can't make anything but RTS games and yet they cant make proper RTS game because old guard left. Lmao leafs. At least Homeworld is far and away from them so they can't desecrate it.

>>376794381
I got all excited for this doujin and then I couldn't unsee her hair as a beetle carapace.

>>376794596
>make proper RTS game
Like command&conquer 1 and warcraft 2?

>>376794668
Like fucking anything but shitty SC2 clone with WC3 layered on top of it.

>>376793908
There was a 40k moba, it got shut down while still in beta.

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>yet another failure to hammer home to the industry that RTS's are dead

THE EXPANSIONS WILL FIX IT!!

Nah I'm serious, I'll wait for the expacs. Those usually make Relic games turned excellent like what happened to CoH2 and DoW2. If the 1st expansions doesn't hype up interest then I'll declare it dead but otherwise it's another example of Relic games.

>>376795052
Both DoW2 and CoH2 had reasonably solid basic gameplay, being CoH1.5 and CoH2 respectively. DoW3 is simply an abortion.

>>376795140
>Both DoW2 and CoH2 had reasonably solid basic gameplay
So does DoW3 but there's not enough content to satisfy compstomp fags so I'll wait for the inevitable Necron Xpacs to keep those folks satisfied and ramp up the meta for MP.

>>376795370
You see, if i wanted to play SC2, i'd play SC2. I want DoW. The thing is not DoW.

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>there are people unironically defending DoW3
Singleplayer
>3 factions only
>no option to choose, forced to play this stupid combined campaign and forced to play races you might not like
>no progression of the blood raven story at all, just some stupid subplot of some random demon who no one gives a shit about
>no risk map, no replay value
>no wargear system, no unit system that encourages replayability and provides variety
>80% of the maps limits your unit/building options and only serves as a tutorial for the stupid elite system and MP
>the demons are just copy-pasted eldar/ork/SM units with a coat of jam on top of them
>NO REPLAY VALUE

Could they have fucked up any worse? There's -nothing- redeeming about the singleplayer whatsoever. This isn't even getting in to the new voice actors and how they're not even close to the standards of previous games.

As for MP
>8 maps in total spread out over 3 different player counts
>1 (ONE) gamemode
>elites so powerful they make the rest of your units feel pointless
>the only counterplay is literally dropping an elite in an enemy blob
>the "new" units is just them removing the unit upgrade system from previous games, so instead of upgrading your pred with lasers they let you build a laser pred'
>basebuilding is a joke, no defensive or utility buildings to speak of bar waaagh towers and the eldar portal
>MUH ESPORTS

>mfw someone try to convince me it's actually a "good game"
Fucking retards who haven't played 1 or 2.

>>376792617
>be excited for dow 3
>get back in touch with friend that i used to play dow 1 and dow 2 with
>play dow 3 beta
>we havent talked since

relic killed my friendship

>>376792617
>try to appeal to pvp fags
>game turns out shit
Wooooow.

>>376795595
I don't get it, the campaign is literally a throwback to DoW1. Also
>caring about SP in an RTS game.

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There's still good games coming out.

>>376793450
>too much micro
>unsatisfying

That's where you're wrong kiddo. You can't fairly say "it's a Moba" and also complain about too much micro. "Mobas are just RTS stripped down to one unit for babbys" has been the go to argument of RTS elitists for the longest time.

Game is most similar to Warcraft 3 really. most complaints are based on the gamemode, which I think really streamlines fights with set pieces. The game is micro intensive enough that it isnt a case of who brings more units wins and each unit has a niche and ability which allows them to even overcome their same tier counters if used properly.

>>376795370
Absolutely right, biggest mistep from relic is not appealing to compstompers early on. they're the vast majority of rts fans. The overall content and polish is bare but the base gameplay is really good and each faction has tons of shit to it and gameplay style potential. It's a really good base for future expansions. But I can understand it being too expensive for too little at the moment.

>>376793226
>AoM and AoE2 sold 5m between them. The market is still there.
They also have the bonus of having 15 years of nostaliga behind them essentially making them meme games. They cost fuck all to make and can be released at a lower and more appealing pricepoint.
I dont think any base building RTS released that isnt made by Blizzard has a chance of any real success. The genre is more or less dead. Relic are trying to adapt.

>>376797635
I don't get it, it doesn't even have half the content the DoW1 campaign has. Also
>caring about MP in an RTS game.

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>DoW3 shills face right now

Feels good this trash flopped.

>>376792869

Both games you mentioned were sold at a third of DoW3's price though

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>>376799115
>You can't fairly say "it's a Moba" and also complain about too much micro.
Do you have brain problems? MOBAs are all about micro, there's nothing Real Time STRATEGY about heavy micro.

>m-muh Starcraft
Starcraft is a fucking gookclick piece of shit and retards trying to ape it is the reason RTS are dead. Even then, all the top SC players agree that Starcraft is NOT a strategy game.

>>376799785
Yet they still have more content than DoW3. So it really just goes to show how absolutely garbage the game is.

>>376799809
it aint micro anymore when there's only one unit to control. It just becomes gameplay.

>Starcraft is NOT a strategy game
oh ok then, what games are Strategy games? What does a game need to have to satisfy to be labelled a strategy game?

>>376800103

It seems we have a very different definition of content

>>376800737
He is objectively right though? Unless you're a beyond blind fanboy I don't see how you could possibly think those games don't have way more content than DoW 3.

>>376792617
The campaign was stale. I miss wargear, and leveling up my squads. The elite experience wasn't even remotely as satisfying. All of the campaign missions, even on hard, pretty much just boiled down to "wait around for an hour while you build resources, then win in a single deathball". I got up to mission 14 before I stopped, I was just so fucking bored.

>>376800737
>more factions
>more maps
>more gametypes
>more than one campaign
So what's your definition of content that isn't any of the above?

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>>376792617
> full price game
> barely any content
> have to grind for elites and doctrines
> riddled with bugs
> can't rebind keys
> maps and objective carry the spirit of a moba
> forced into "metas" because of doctrines (ex. mass dire avenger/asm meta), can't play whatever you want

What an absolute fucking mess.

>>376800103
Dawn of War 3 has more content than any previous Relic game ever made. That is an objective fact.

SImpply because Age of series had fucking Microsoft at its peak behind its ass to fund it with bajillion dollars does not change the fact.

>>376801592
Your reason for existence is because your mother loves to take any and all cocks she can get her hands on on a daily basis. This too is an objective fact and you can't refute it.

How does it feel to be the accidental offspring of a whore?

>>376801592
Check your dawn of war 3 steam achievements, I think you just unlocked the "I'm retarded" one.

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/dawn-of-war-3-multiplayer-esports

>So in a MOBA you control one hero, you have a very clear sense of when your attacks are working, the tells, vulnerabilities and stuff like that. We took a lot of that and used that lens on our game.

>For example, if somebody threw a grenade in earlier Dawn of Wars there was a very small pixel [makes beeping noise], maybe there was a timer on it, a little bit of a trail, it lands - big explosion. Awesome feedback for the attacker. For the guy who's receiving it? Not so good. Nothing you could react against. So the notion of tells has been a big thing that we've taken away from MOBAs.

>nothing you could react against
>these are the retards in charge of DoW3

O I AM LAFFIN

I pity anyone who bought into this garbage

>>376801547
>forced into "metas" because of doctrines (ex. mass dire avenger/asm meta), can't play whatever you want

Fucking this. I'm tired of playing against scout and assault marines spam. Also, fuck striking scorpions. They announced that the next patch will be on the 24th, but by then nobody will be left playing.

green is best

>>376800504
He's arguing about semantic; tactics =/= strategy but he's probably a retard who never scout and cheese all the time against noobs or else he would have realized that micro alone can't win you a game.

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>No Rhinos
> No Rhazorbacks
> No Vindicators
> No Landraiders with variants (Crusader/Redeemer)
> No Stormhawks/Ravens
> No plasma or grav cannons
> No Baall Predator or Predator Variants of any kind
> No Assualt Bikes
> No Warwalkers
> No Avatar
> No Eldar Fighter Aircraft
> No Shokk Attack Gunz
> No Pain Boyz
> No Gretchin Artillery
> No Sqiuggoths
> Retarded cover system
> Stupid fucking Elite system
> Bland as fuck upgrades and base building
Its like Relic completely forgot what made Dawn of War cool. Dawn of War was never competitive nor balanced but it gave you sick buggy unbalanced CINEMATIC gameplay experience and thats what I honestly believe everyone wanted. No one wanted the 1 game assfaggot tier game we got that is guaranteed to have a cancerous as fuck Dlc model. I dont even think the active defenders that shill the game hard defending Relic to their last breath would have minded if we got more Dawn of War 1 in this game. Its a fucking shame that we wont get a complete or decent dawn of war for a while yet if ever.

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>>376801916
>All that garbage
>shills still try to yell "I-It's not a MOBA!!"

KEK

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>>376801916
Holy shit

>>376801592
you really deserve those (You)s for that nice bait

Apparently, it sold quite well. That's the only thing that matters to Relic.

>>376792617
>Mobile UI
>Single multi mode
>That mode is about lanes with towers and a single building you have to destroy
>Your units are as expendable as a moba's fodder and your heroes are 1 man army
>Everything is so flashy, you can't micro, because you can't see
>Terrible campaign
>Muh e-sports

They should've released it as a mobile arena rts.

>>376803894
multiplayer online battle arena

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Say what you want, but seeing terminators destroying entire squad of units is the best feeling any dow game ever provided.

>>376792617
>tfw I can't refund it

ffs I will have this pile of bland trash forever

>>376792617

>Lame campaign that was made just to prepare you for multiplayer

>Pond deep amount of content (I mean, 3 fucking maps on launch)

>The entire meta revolves around spamming a single unit type and elite AOE skills

Relic really fucking shat the bed this time around

>>376803563
This. The unit selection in this game is abysmally low all in favor of multiplayer cancer because a large unit selection would be unbalanced.

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>>376805404
>when you unleash a 10 stack missile barrage

>>376805748
>this entire post

I really get the feeling that there are too many RTS shitters having their shitters opinion thrown around in RTS thread late lately.

>(I mean, 3 fucking maps on launch)

And I wonder what compels them to post blatantly wrong facts.

>>376793679

The campaign was better than all other campaigns other than WA

>>376799115
>I dont think any base building RTS released that isnt made by Blizzard has a chance of any real success. The genre is more or less dead. Relic are trying to adapt.

I don't like agreeing with the shill here, but his point about base building RTS may be more acurate than you think.

Act of Aggression, grey goo, cossacks 3, how many RTS fans actually bought those? and if those were command and conquer 4, warcraft 4 and age of empires 4, wouldn't they have fared better?

There is a TON of nostalgiafagging in RTS threads, it isn't even about quality, it's jsut whatever the fuck you played first.

Battlerealms is a good game, sacrifice, Heroes of anihilated empires, armies of exigo, etc. it isn't even about new games, but, if the RTS didn't catch you when you were young you might as well not exist for the "core" RTS playerbase.

As for upcming RTS the game Iron harvest did a really good poll that covers most of the topics discussed in these threads, if there should be focus on MP, or SP, lenght of the campaign,base building, things you dislike from current RTS, etc.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfRmnT8fR5QNNm7-zGWJREPVVjm8wKC8cLiY2SAxN_6wn3wEg/viewform?c=0&w=1

i really want them to make the results public, i think it would be interesting to see how people answered this.

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>>376805661

> Steam library
> Select game
> Click on Support at the side bar
> I want to remove this game from my steam library
> Never look back

And SEGA continues to ruin it's RTS series.
>Total War
>now this
Warhammer license games in general have been on a deep quality decline too

>>376807209
its* Fuck off autocorrect

>>376807209
Except Total War Warhammer is making more than their previous titles and is arguably a vast improvement in many areas. If nothing else its certainly not a bad game, unlike DoW3.

>>376807209
Total war: warhammer is amazing you faggot, Don't compare it to that trash dow3

>>376807209
>Total War
>RTS

m8, RTT is in a better position than RTS now.

Honestly i would play the SHIT out of a remaster of dow1, updated models and all, but nothing else changed

>>376807209

Total war warhammer is not a bad game tho, despite what DLC whiners love to proclaim
It is total war by the end of the day

Dawn of War 3 on the other hand, is complete shit, everyone but the shills that convinced themselves that this is good, agree

>>376807350
>>376807513
>>376807824
But DoW3 is good, it just simply doesn't have the amount of SP content that TWW have.

>>376807350
>>376807513
>>376807549
>>376807824
>everyone already forgot about Rome 2 and Attila
>defending a $60 game that releases a full-price sequel within a year after dumping out a bunch of overpriced DLC

>>376808143
>talking about warhammer
>brings up rome 2 and attila
Fuck off retard, stick to your own goalposts or shut the fuck up.

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>>376792617
>elutes have an offense, defense, and difficulty meter for no discernable reason amd doesnt even affect gameplay

I dont understand how such a high quality game can have such bad ideas behind it

>>376808143

>Attila

What about it?
It was great, and it didn't even have huge amounts of must-get DLC

While you whine about
>MUH DLC
the game still sells bucketloads

>>376808143
>muh dlc
Don't you have some overwatch loot boxes to buy?

also attila was good, and rome got better later

>>376808225

It is even a bit insulting

how to use elites
>spam AOE
>win

>>376808143
>Rome 2
Oh shit, I forgot about that game. No matter how much Relic fuck up DoW3 it isn't as bad as as the fuckup that was Rome 2.

>>376801916
I still cant react to fucking grenades in this game they fly out so fast amd theres so much input lag

This game was rushed. Amd boy did it suffer for it. It wasnt ready

Is the DOW community really this cancerous?

Been playing all DOW but never got into the online community, Don't really see what all the complaints are about except missing Last Stand.

>>376806840
This.
Nostalgia fags don't want new RTS, they want HD remake of their old memories.
The genre is dead for a reason.

>>376806069
So you want an unbalanced game? Give me a break

>ultimate shitpocalypse fags

>>376792617
Seems like using Denuvo bears a curse with it. Every game with it fails hard.

>>376808218
I mentioned Total War.
>>376808267
>>376808318
Wasn't bitching about Attila DLC though Rome 2's is STILL fucking godawful and Rome 2 is still 60 fucking dollarydoos. Makes Warhammer look cheap.
>A-Attila was g-good
Yeah, sure. It's not like the playerbase tanked almost immediately. :^)

>complaining about scummy DLC practices mean I'm a faggot who buys into another scam like loot boxes
>don't even address the price tag of the base game and the upcoming FULL PRICE sequel releasing immediately afterwards
I'm sorry you're so used to sucking SEGA cock so much that overpaying out the nose for content and ONE year's worth of support doesn't bother you.
Literally no better than CoDfags.

>>376808828
Not really, its not that much money, and imo it's worth it. something like 400hr into TW:W

Maybe just don't buy it? the people that like it will

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>>376808828
>when M2 fags go on their daily autistic DLC rant
Don't you have some negative reviews to write?

>>376808739
RA2 was unbalanced and yet people love this game.

>>376801916
holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>376809025
>lower amount of people playing than the older, even more expensive shitfest that is Rome 2
HAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for proving my point.

>Not really, its not that much money, and imo it's worth it. something like 400hr into Infinite Warfare
>can't wait to buy CoD: WW2 this year
See what I mean?

>>376809013
See: >>376809290

RTS is a dead genre, Its been dead for ages and even Starcraft 2 fucking fizzled out fast.

Frankly DOW3 has been pretty successful given the shitty state of RTS in general.

>>376809290
Are you just a butthurt poorfag with a shit PC? seems like it

>>376809392
Anon, I've got around 5k games. I'm just not enough of a cuck to support SEGA's release/pricing strategy for TW:Warhammer (even though it's a much better game than Rome 2 or Attila)
The fact that DoW3 is a fucking MOBA is just further proof SEGA is retarded when it comes to these franchises.

>>376809569
Retarded and Jewish as shit*

>>376809569
What you are going to have to deal with if you still want to play TW games.

DoW3 is an abomination though, first game i've refunded on steam.

>>376808804

Total War Warhammer
Uncracked to this day

>>376809682
Not if they keep fucking over you suckers by bundling it once they got milked enough DLC sales and are about to release the sequel.

Got it for $10.80 + a bunch of other shit :^)

>>376809569
t. buys tons humble bundles full of shit but wont pay for a full price game because "its shit" even though he hasn't played it

>One dude having autistic fits of rage trying to argue against chill bros that the game is shit because it has DLC

I wish I had that *autistic screeching* pic right now

>>376809901
issues with pricing, DLC and rushing out sequels =/= gameplay is shit
Rome 2 and Attila were though.

>>376792617
>Press F to pay respects to the DoW series.
>Denuvo
I will blame Denuvo personally.I liked the game i bought it and i love orks but with such a small starting game population there was no way for this game to be but another forgotten Denuvo title that nobody plays.

>ask my online friends why are they not buying the game
>no try no buy

I at least got into the beta so i knew what i was getting.Fuck you Denuvo, how am i supposed to shill this game to my friends when they are all from the try before buy camp?

>>376810020
Always that guy that has to tell everyone why he doesn't like thing and why no one else can

>>376810037

>Attila
>Shit

Give me one reason

>>376810020
>one dude arguing against fanatical SEGA cocksuckers who were aghast that someone dared to say that SEGA has been fucking up the Total War franchise even though it's blatantly obvious
Fixed

>>376809689
And it never gets talked about here.It is pretty much dead.

>>376810218

CSGO never gets talked about here

It is pretty much dead right?

Didn't Total Warhammer have a buttload of fucking DLC?

It might be a decent game, i was bored shitless with it, but its definitely no model for any RTS to emulate.

>>376810218
Not him but apparently it's pulling 10k which isn't bad.
I imagine it'll be a ghost town once the sequel drops though because all these retards are okay with spending at least $60 a year on these games.

>>376792617

>When devs think they "know" the community but have zero clue and only listen to 12 year old focus groups

flop

>>376810260
It is literal cancer when it comes to it's business model.

>>376810260
Correct. Currently I am waging an argument against SEGA fanatics about the very subjects.
>>376810351
>inb4 they kill TW: Warhammer for a worse sequel

>>376810327
They are warhammer fans.They pay hundreds of dollars for plastic figures to paint over, so i am not surprised in the least.

>>376810376

>TW
>Literal cancer

That is any paradox game

But for some reason, no one mentions DLC when it comes to those games, I got no fucking clue why

Probably because you can pirate it

>>376810260
I like the game and have bought all the DLC but heres some ammo for everyone to sperg about: the game and its expansions + DLC will cost a total of $360 if you dont buy any of it on sale.

>>376810479
>Warhammerfags pay $420 for their game
>game loses support within 12 months
It's like old Street Fighters but even fucking worse.

>>376810479
Which is why most of us will just wait a few years for the 'super fucken everything' bundle to pop up for five bucks on a summer sale

>>376810793
>not just getting the game for $12 from Humble a few months ago and playing it while it's still rather active
Dumb

>>376810963
>not waiting a few months to get Dawn of War 3 for $12 and still regret it

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>11,603 people playing total warhammer
>not even 3k people playing DoW3

That's not Dawn of War. That's MOBAHammer 40K. And if they'd gotten the name right to begin with I wouldn't have been so disappointed when I realized I'd been waiting for Dawn of War and got a shill instead.

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>>376792617
>25k to 5k players in just over two weeks
wew

I didn't even know it came out already as I saw a trailer and it looked awful and never looked back.
I think whoever was in charge of this project never shipped a game before.
Not sad though, CoH2 and DoW2 were already garbage compared to the first ones so I had no expectations this time around.

>>376807209
Total Warhammer is the best TW game, fuck off.

>>376793658
nigga stop with fallacies shit you dense motherfucker

I'll buy dow 3 when they release a last stand mode

>>376812010
B-b-but Total War: Warhammer is shit!

>>376812526
what would even be the point
the wargear system is out of the window (for heroes, at least) so any gear you would unlock would likely just come in stat gain or some ability they didn't bother putting into the final game

they have to make a survival horror fps based on the Imperial guard and shit would sell if they made it cool

>>376808739
Titanium Wars is fine

>>376812772
Too bad CA is busy with TW: Warhammer 2.

It's almost like a better idea would have been to have them work on another survival horror game after their break from the successful Alien:Isolation while having a B-team keep up support for Warhammer for another year.
But this is SEGA we're talking about.

>>376809689
Almost same numbers of sales as Attila. CA could dump a shit on a platter and Total War fans would still buy it in droves.

>>376813436
>People like Warhammer
>Warhammer Total War has fun battles, interesting units and new mechanics not seen in other Total War games
>ITS SHIT ITS NOT HISTORY ITS SHIT
Even if you don't buy the DLC, you can still fight the guys on the campaign, if it was DLC locked then I would complain

>>376813202
The Warhammer team won't stop making Total War games until they're completely finished with all three titles, and CA's other dev team is also busy with creating another historical Total War title. I don't think they'd be able to make any other games without hiring a whole bunch more people.

>>376813716
>Warhammer Total War has fun battles, interesting units and new mechanics not seen in other Total War games
Yes, even more dumbed down than Rome 2.

>ITS SHIT ITS NOT HISTORY ITS SHIT
Didn't say that, did I?

>Even if you don't buy the DLC, you can still fight the guys on the campaign, if it was DLC locked then I would complain

"look how great the units which raped your army army! Buy this DLC by Creative Assembly (tm)!"

Damn, this board went downhill when you see people praising DLC infested garbage.

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>>376801916
>I-ITS NOT A MOBA FUCK YOU /V/ JUST WAIT AND SEE IT WILL BE A HIT

>>376814289
Empire is still the strongest faction even after all this time.

It's cute to see you trying to justify your DLC whine.

>>376814261
>creating another historical Total War
>when they've been shit
>when Warhammer is on a yearly release schedule
Fucking WHY?
Why not go the fucking CoD route and alternate then?

>>376814537
>CA could dump a shit on a platter and Total War fans would still buy it in droves.
Thanks for proving me right.

>>376814740
>I don't like it so it's shit
kek, how's that autism going kiddo?

i like dow 3 and i think its a good game. Not flawless, but good.

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>tfw dawn of war 1 is borderline unplayable on operating systems past 7
>have to play retribution if I want to venerate the dark gods

>>376814850
It's always a pleasure to watch post-purchase rationalization in action.

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>everyone hates chaos rising because it's a moba game instead of an RTS
>love it to death because of its super elaborate character corruption system that no other game seems to do

Also Arghast the pillager was a fucking baller

>>376815265
It's always a pleasure to watch autistic 'sperging in action.

>>376792617
>if 100k people aren't playing an RTS 24/7 then it's a dead game

kill yourself

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This is nu Relic btw

>>376815541
>all those women
That explains everything.

>>376815448
You know you lost an argument when you resort to "lol autism"? Just a friendly heads up to my favorite handicapped anon!

P.S. - :)

>>376815772
notice the female(male) at the left bottom

>>376815802
You know you lost an argument when you resort to "thanks for proving me right lol"? Just a friendly heads up my favorite autistic sperging anon.

P.S. - :)

>>376815827
Nah anon, that's obviously just a dude in a pink sh-
>see the dress
For fuck's sake.
If you're going to have insane delusions at least put some effort into them.

>>376816140
>canadian developers
>worth jack shit or sane
lmao fuck cucknada.

>>376816278
Agreed.
Canadian devs are behind this, Dead Rising 4 and Andromeda. More than enough evidence.

>>376812262
Both CoH2 and DoW2 are better than their predecessors.

*mic drop*

Is there a way to win against a good ork or eldar player as a SM ?
Literally can't compete early on for points, their units are straight up better AND cheaper. By the time I get decent units they already have twice the army and fortified all points.

>>376816808
>*mic drop*
lmao normalfags is so easy to spot, I bet you want emojis here too you fucking faggot.

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It's 2017, if it's on PC and doesn't start with D and end with OTA then its going to be dead in the first 3 months. You can thank eSports and Twitch.

>>376816893
ASM spam to victory.

>>376817148
>You can thank Valve
FTFY

>>376817254
LoL existed before Valve even thought of making DotA 2.

>>376817219
Still gets absolutely destroyed by scorpions and banshees. They arrive too late to contest points vs orks too.
They are great against SM though.

>>376816893
SM is currently the weakest faction by far.

>>376817457
power swords>destroy his economy and shield generators, make him chase you and cry

>>376793742
There is ton of rts like Grey Goo, Homeworld Deserts of Kharak or Act of Aggression that no one plays because genre is dead.

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>>376817254
Valve didn't do anything, the market changed. We are the fastest growing platform for games but 90% of those people are south americans or eastern europeans who only play eSports.

The best hardware and service on the market is reducted to being just that other system you can play PS4 exclusives on.

>>376817772
No, its because they're all shit, just like new arena FPS games.

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JUST

>>376808804
Nier Automata and DOOM disagree with you.

>>376817883
And I bet you can't say why because you're just parroting what you've heard.

this game really lacks content for the 60€ price tag.

>>376817937
>6.5
JUST

Ork faction is zoggin gr8 and the scrap mechanic is tons o fun and underutilized by players

>play the beta
>make a fuckhuge army, winning all game by a huge amount controlling most the map since the start
>he makes one (one) unit that's given to him for free
>can't kill it
>wipes out my ENTIRE army with one ability including my hero units or whatever the fuck
>has like unironically 9999 HP or some bullshit
>literally wins based on one unit he didn't have to do fucking anything to get


Yeah, what a great idea. Amazing. RTS genius! Wow.

Glad it failed

>>376817937
>40% off after 2 weeks
Confirmed for giant flop, not even Battleborn dropped in price so quickly.

>>376818292
>blobbing
git gud

>>376818643
>missing the point entirely

Enjoy your shit game with 100 playerbase by next month.

>console version rumours on Neofag
Pls no

>>376818814

that would explain it being garbage and having a low amount of content on release

prolly cancelled now though

>>376819038
>thinking SEGA would leave easy money on the table when porting is cheap and the only competition on consoles is Halo Wars 2
kek

>>376819196
Console gamers don't play rts if PC don't.

>>376818643
no one elite can wipe out a well balanced and set up army with one ability.
You blobbed your shit and got wrecked. If you had dominated the game as you said you should've
1: had a large enough army to fuck his elite up
2: had enough resource generation so that losing one engagement isnt a definitive loss

i swear at least 80% of people shitting on this game either:
haven't played it,
are shitters that got wrecked because they didnt bother to learn the mechanics
Or play RTS for the campaign and were dissapointed.

Only one of those complaints are fair.

>>376818292
>things that never happend.

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>>376818292
I tried to watch some Indrid Casts of 3. His commentary is so good it got me into DoW2 Elite.

Towards the end of this 1v1, the ork team was winning handidly. Even took out the marine's natural power thing. Indrid commented that that usually spelled the end of the match. But no, the marine player built a Deathstorm drop pod, landed it in the middle of the ork army, and it pretty much killed them all with minimal assistance. The ork player then resigned because he lost his entire army and couldn't come back.

Like what the actual fuck is the balance in this game

>>376819345
meant for >>376818804

>>376819345
I agree with you but i also think that lack of content ( 3 factions, 8 maps ) is another fair complaint. And hopefully the balance patch later this month will fix some of the more annoying things.

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Dawn on war 3 Is totally a successful game and not one of the biggest flops in several years guys!

It's the most popular RTS around right now.

Even now, two weeks after release it still has 20% of it's initial playerbase. Isn't this kind of player retention amazing?

Watch out Blizzcucks the new king of RTS is here.

coh 2 launch was even worse and it's alive and well right now.

>>376819365
>literal black hole grenade only applies a slow and a debuff

What the fuck.

>>376794801
RTS fanbase is too autistic to be profitable.

Unless you use Total War DLC model

>>376819365
>blobs his army
>dies to an AOE.
Deathwatch kill team is great for destroying single units because of that grenade. What did you expect it to do, delete your opponent's PC?

>>376819517
>game that has 50 sales has more players than a game that hasn't had a single one.

>>376819365
They could use stasis bomb instead, canadian hacks.

>>376819696
>why doesn't the black hole grenade suck every unit on the map into 1 pixel?

>>376819479
Absolutely a valid complaint, I was pissed when I heard that announced but decided to try the beta and was surprised.
If you've got a backlog or not much money to spend DoW 3 is not the game to get at the moment. When it gets more factions, game modes and some annoying bugs fucked off it will be a great online RTS.
At the moment I think it's just good and it's only good because of the core gameplay and the way the armies have been built.

I just miss sync kills, couldn't they have just disabled them in multiplayer games? They made actually watching a fight up close satisfying.

>>376819946
this game would be absolute baller with a Victory Point system.

>>376819769
I expect it do do what it does in fluff. Instantly kill anything within the blast radius.

If they don't have the balls to give the marines something so powerful, don't include it at all.

>>376793849

SupCom 2 is the only game I've bought that has properly upset me.
Such a fucking disappointment.

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>>376812010
You could buy TW:W for 15$
And it has a robust SP

DoW3 launched bare bones like all RTS nowadays and devs will need to support it if they want it to become popular

>>376820121
>fluff
yes an early game elite unit gets an ability that destroys everything on the spot. Great balance there.

>>376812010
>GSG lite game that has been out for a year with a huge modding community and Singleplayer focus.
>comparing it to a dead genre

>>376819932
>why did they name the slow debuff grenade after something obscenely powerful in the lore

>>376820121
Even on the tabletop it instantly deletes everything underneath its blast template.

>>376820448
If they're not going to implement it properly it shouldn't be in the game at all.

>>376818523
Battleborn was -75% after first month, so I doubt it.

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you should play monster girl gamu!

>>376820552
>why isn't gameplay balance based on fluff.

>>376820603
and the TT is turn based with a huge amount of dicerolls.

>>376820659
Are you being daft on purpose? They could've avoided this complaint by simply naming it different. Would you also enjoy an ability called "Nuclear Warhead" doing a grenade worth of damage?

>>376820659
My point isthat they couldve just named it something more lore approriate, and they had no reason not to. That keeps balanxe as the most important priority but means they don't fuck up the fluff unnecessarily

>>376818202
>Waaagh towers ROCK OUT to pump up the boyz
Love it

>>376818202
>>376820991
Say what you want about the game, but they still nailed da orks.

>>376820906
in an average match being caught by the grenade means you get focus fired down by the ironjaws and snipers. The weapon is deadly as it is.
I suppose you are right, but every other stasis spell just turns the units invulnerable and locks them in place.

>>376820053
More game modes would be sweet. I just hope they randomize them and add them into quick play so that MP community doesnt get diffused.

I like the power core game mode. It adds the king of the hill style game play of set pieces with an elimination mode.
Fucks players that like to quickly finish bases though so I can see why there are complaints against it.
Allows plenty of comeback options which is good for beginners i spose.

>>376821067
the grots are incredibly cute.
>YOU IZ STUPID
>I-ITS SCARY OUT HERE, SOMEONE COME GET US.
Gorgutz just seems like a babysitter in the star fortress mission

>>376821067
Only complaint I've heard is that Gorgutz is too nice and subservient in campaign.
I've grown to really like the VA work on orks tho.

Even the staunchest of haters can't hate the trailer though, that thing is a fucking work of art.

>>376821294
nah, gorgutz is kunnin'. He tricks his boss and then tears everyone a new one while having fun.

That mission where you recruit zapnoggin and wazmakka is great banter.
>gorgutz bullying zapnoggin because he doesn't want to fite

>>376792617
>Meanwhile Total War Warhammer, a year old game, has 15k people playing it
The RTS genre is dead and so is 40k.

>>376821294
The trailer is a major reason why a lot of folks hate DoW3

It's legit incredible and the art style is perfect, and then the game we get looks like a mobile game with Starcraft art style

>>376821294
The trailer is the single best piece of 40k art in existence currently.

>>376821425
>Gitfinda
>You's gits but not the git's we's lookin' for

right proper laff

How come Kyre wasn't ever able to see the Spear was a trap when he's a fucking Autarch? Even a lowly human librarian was able to sense something was wrong, yet this fucker had a boner for the spear even after seeing the demon trapped in ice.

>>376822005
>it's a gitfinda
>it finds gits
grots are cute.

>>376821765
I can't stand the skinny jeans marines but everything else is pretty fantastic.

>>376822054
elves are obsessive retards.
his entire power was based around the fact that the artifact was going to solve their problems.

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At the end of it all, he was the one to get the pointy stick for himself.

I've always wandered if you could make a 40K RTS game but make the engagement range longer, say, World in Conflict size?

But I wouldn't know how you'd resolve a game where your melee units are going to get much more mulched when charging ranged units than in DoW because they can shoot them for longer before impact.

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>>376822196
>macha explains what the spear of Khaine is
>"A SUPER POINTY STIKK?"

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>>376821765
>This is the face of a man who loves his job

>>376821667
>Everyone says the game looks bad
>Try the sm, something feels off but it doesn't bother me enough. Probably something that can be easily fixed.
>Try Eldars, they look incredible
>Try Orks, they are a fucking masterpiece, the buildings, the units, everything looks so good, the waaaaaaagh tower activation is just the icing on the cake.

I don't get it, this is the one complaint about the game i simply don't understand.

>be flash playing sc2
>ahead by 100 population
>run my marines to enemy base fully upgraded, enough to stomp over his army easily, backed up by medivacs and everything to easily just end the game
>the enemy genius player summons an Elite™ unit that oneshots my 100 population lead at range while being unkillable unless I "counter it xD"
"just don't group up!!" says the enemy genius player, using his amazing 185 IQ to come to this conclusion as he controls his one (1) unit to absolute perfection with his intense 240APM clicking q and then above my large amount of units
>The enemy has now used his superior strategically thought out choice of "ME SUMMON ELITE ME DO GOOD" in this RTS game to completely nullify my previous 20 minutes of winning with a simple button
>"My enemy clearly deserved that win and made so many good strategical choices throughout the game that I simply could not compete!" - Flash

>>376822234
You'd have to call for some modifications than simply increasing range. Space Marines would have stronger armor and not die so easily while jump packs would have a longer range and speed, Eldar would simply be too nimble and have a chance of dodging most of the gunfire, and Orks would field so many Boyz that even if the vast majority of them were gunned down during the charge enough would still reach the main army to still be a threat.

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>>376822142
They tried making the ingame models closer to the models
There's a reason most CG incarnations of space marines usually have tree-trunk legs

>>376822426
The problem with the SM is that they pointlessly changed the dreadnought and the SM voice filters. I love the ork and eldar voices and main eldar. Space marines are pretty bland right now.

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>>376792617
I like it.
They just need to release balance patch(and don't fuck up) and more maps.

>>376822658
I don't hate the new dreadnought voice, but it sounds more like a cyborg than an ancient warrior in a badass life support.
And the SM in general sounds more like a futurist spec ops rather than zealots wariors monks

>>376822934
whoz your best gitz?

>>376814571
Because TWW is a fucking planned trilogy of games meant to interconnect no one is gonna wait 6 years for that to finish fuck off

>>376822958
this. I suppose different chapters operate differently but I am too used to zealous warrior monks in space from DoW1 and 2. The voices would be great for an imperial guard faction.

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>>376822934
Me too, but soon enough I'll have nothing else to do in it.

>>376822658
Yeah they really fucked up the voice filters with a few things. Listening to angelos and the Inquisitor in the campaign it really sounds like they're in a recording booth.

A lot less noticable when in game and theres all kind of battle sounds going on though.

>>376821667
I've grown used to the artstyle by now so I can appreciate it. But it is still way too clean for 40k. Everything that isnt eldar needs to be dragged through the dirt a bit to make it look authentic

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>>376822410
[removing xenos intensifies]

>>376823418
funny because the eldar sound like they are plotting and the boyz sound like they just wanna have fun.

>>376823568
YOU'VE GOT YER SHOOTA BOOOYZ

>>376822434
psst, im gonna let you in on a secret: you have access to Elite™ units as well. and sooner than him if you've been winning map control or taking shield gensgit gud

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>>376823671
the announcer for orks voiced G O B L I N S in total warhams.

>>376792617
Good. Im glad its dead. Wanna know why? Because we all caused this by continuing to buy dow2 and its xpacs. Dow2 was specifically designed to be an esports game. It failed, but because it made money, they tried again. This is what happens. One of my favorite game series is dead and im glad. Fuck 40k games and the devs/publishers who fuck them up and fuck the idiots who defend dogshit 40k games because they dont want to admit they bought a shit game.

Can't wait for Tau to be released

>>376823820
the greatest VA of our time?

GONNA STAB

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>>376824106
DIS STINKS
his React video is absolute god tier.

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>>376801916

>Played nearly 300 hours of DoW2
>Most of it multiplayer
>Had no problem noticing grenades and getting out of them if I was microing in the battle
>Even if it hit the squad, it wasn't a total squad wipe like abilities in DoW3 that have even less windup/notice

>>376824448
>nades are the same in DoW3.
>only they do even less damage and primarily used for disrupting.

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Things like this is why Sega won't ever give you their quality titles like Yakuza or Project Diva, instead only ports of ages old games console gamers bought and played already. Ironic that brand new games don't sell on PC, but ages old ports do.

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>>376820641
>tumblr shit
>ever
Also there is a RTS where you can fuck a skeleton waifu.

>>376815541
>All those people saying calling them Lefties and immediately getting political
>People blaming the fact the game is bad on the fact there are women developers

I hate what you've done to the entire internet, /v/pol/.

They're just bad at their job. It's not a (((conspiracy))), goddamnit. It's also not the fact that they're women.

>>376792617

Warhammer is too serious. DoW2 was lazily done, same campaign for all groups, like what the fuck.

>>376825085
>DoW2 was lazily done, same campaign for all groups, like what the fuck
Only in Retribution.
DoW2 vanilla had its flaw but Chaos Rising was fantastic.

>>376825194
What I most remember about Chaos Rising was the laughable imbalances on release. Cultists were filthy for a starting unit and Lightning Claw Terminators feared nothing.

>>376825375
he is talking about the balance.
DoW3 seems to be pretty well balanced compared to average relic releases

>>376825375
I was talking about campaign, not multi but yes it was unbalanced as fuck. I believe LC termies only got nerfed in Retribution and the Elite mod nerfed them again because they were so good.

>>376824596
Problem is that DoW3 encourages blobing with how the maps and gameplay are designed

>>376792617
> dead
> more players than any PC fighting game combined
How I wish more people played GG on pc

>>376792617

>Make a MOBA.

>Nobody plays it.

You'd think they'd learn after the past 10 or so MOBAs have failed.

>>376824947
You are the part of the problem.

>>376825674
they are pretty good numbers for an RTS. You want a dead RTS, take a look at DoK
>>376825586
the good players always spread out their armies before engaging.

>>376825716

Any superfan of Warhammer is a fascist anyway

>>376825682

Dota 2 and League are pretty unassailable, much like WoW is the best "Theme park" MMO.

You cannot beat them at their own game. Your game has to be way better to be able pull people away who are deeply invested (financially as well as mentally.)

>>376825840
Left-centrist here, I like 40K and I think /pol/ is full of retards

>>376825795
>the good players always spread out their armies before engaging.
That's not the point.
No more cover and starcraft style focus fire mathematics combined with cramped maps means you will blob at some point.

>>376825716
>someone making a bad game is a jewish plot to destroy the white race.

>>376826145
Left-centrist here, I don't give a fuck, stop derailing

>>376826183
only if you are not a very good player. Good players may lose models but they generally preserve their squad for at least the first phase.

I'm more fucking pissed they took out the Imperial quotes from the menus.

What ever happened to "COWARDS DIE IN SHAME" whenever you press the quit button? Where is the "Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean." greeting you whenever you opened the game? Seriously I miss shit like this

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Dawn_of_War

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=924016982
lel

>>376793908
There is no room for more MOBAs. The market is saturated.

>>376794801
But they didn't even try to make an RTS.

>>376826996
Explain this game's XP to me

It's not like 2, where it just upgrades your army cosmetically?

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>>376792869
>diddly fucking squat

>>376827291

That XP is for elites that you level up individually depending on how much they kill in a single match. Leveling them up unlocks more doctrines, a skin and some bonus skulls. However, you can grind XP buying picking a custom map that's just one big ass line meat grinder and fight 3 AIs over and over. Orks in particular are the best race to fight because they swarm you with units, which gives loads of XP.

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>>376826678
>Hatred is the emperor's greatest gift to humanity.
>No man died in His service that died in vain.
>Success is measured in blood; yours or your enemy´s.
>The man who has nothing can still have faith.
>Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life.

This shit if fucking great.

>>376827657

>Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

Has honestly been one of my life mottos for a while now. Hoping for something has bit me in the ass far too many times. Fuck dreams and aspirations.

>>376827657
>The man who has nothing can still have faith
This quote is forever linked with Jonas Orion for me.
A shame his "betrayal" is not canon because it was the best one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nveHagB16Cc

>>376828043

Why do the maps look way more fucking detailed in DoW3?

>>376828302

I mean than in DoW3. Seriously, the ground textures look like fucking plastic.

>>376818292
>Be a drooling retard.
>Get rekt.

>>376828302
>>376828357
DoW 2 is focused on skirmish.
DoW 3 is focused in huge battles.

>>376828302
>>376828357
From a pure technical pov (polygon, texture quality, etc), DoW3 look better than DoW2.
The issue is artstyle.
DoW3 artstyle is shit hence why it seems worse than DoW2 despite being technicaly better.

>>376828357
Because that is a map littered with doodads whereas DoW3 usually has maps that have the same amount of detail as in DoW1.

If you removed all the pipes and buildings, the ground beneath would most likely look even worse than anything in DoW1, let alone DoW2.

>>376826678

>Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean.

Shit like that wouldn't fly in this day and age and you guys know it. Angry articles and blogposts about genocide promotion and non inclusiveness would create an even bigger shitstorm than the "muh MOBA' stuff on DoW3 release.

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>>376828043
>A shame his "betrayal" is not canon
>Wanting best boy of DoW 2 CR dead

>>376828302
Art direction > Graphics

>>376828691

Yeah and? CoH1 and 2 allowed you to have massive as fuck battles but the maps are still filled with neat details. Some 4 vs 4 maps even feature a whole country side complete with forests, rivers, small villages and so on.

Why cant DoW3 be as creative? It's always just some factory or something.

>>376829047
Wait for modders to make something.
Just like in CoH2

>>376828838

Fuck this. What made DoW1 so immersing was that every unit who could speak reveled in how much they hate they enemies. Every Chaos unit was shouting MAIM KILL BURN and BLOOD FOR THE GOD. On the opposite side, you had Grey Knights going full deus vult. It was great.

Now you can barely feel that energy anymore in the voice acting in DoW3.

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>people defending games with removed content that is sold as DLC

How about you fucking kill yourself?