SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME

>>376786207
Imagine if they were this honest with all their reviews

>>376786207
>Obnoxious audio design

I haven't played the game but can someone tell me what he means by this?

>>376786207
I think more people need to follow Bethesda's suite and not offer review copies. Prey reviews have been surprisingly honest.

>>376786367
The audio balancing is fucked and also just done poorly with too many things overlapping with each other to where you can't hear important things that you need to listen to

>>376786367
Music is too loud and can get annoying. Like the music picks up when nothings happening because a mimic is within a 500 ft radius or some shit. The patch on pc supposedly messes with the audio mixing so it may be better now.

>>376786273
I believe we'll be entering the new era of bad reviews everywhere soon

lots of jaded reviewers that aren't getting any real support from publishers anymore

bad reviews also attract more attention and give ad revenue

>>376786506
The music stings were massively toned down from the demo version.

https://youtu.be/3EZNr0TyimU?t=121

>>376786553
They actually don't; not in the age of auto-archive

After playing Nier:Automata, most other games just feel flat, no matter the polish or pedigree. Glad reviewers got their taste calibrated by something worth playing.

>>376786207
someone forgot to pay

>>376786738
>he thinks the handful that use archives make a significant difference

I agree that Prey's like a 7 but it's funny, I completely disagree with him on pacing.

Early game is far more entertaining than late game because there's actual progression and challenge to the enemies - but rather than escalate with the player, enemies remain the same and after you get a healthy supply of neuromods (which can happen very early on) the game becomes permanently easy unless you purposefully neuter yourself.

Just finished it. Tbqh I'd give it an 8.5/10. I really liked exploring Talos I and it was actually sufficiently challenging.

>>376786842
in the niche community of gamers that actually read reviews?
most people just see the number and don't even go to the page.

After reading the reviews to Prey I legitimately felt like I played a different game.

I enjoyed the fuck out of the game. The music was one of the high points for me, as was the atmosphere. The game also doesn't hold your hand at all. That part where you had to restart the generators and they had all those turrets for you deploy, only to have them taken over by the double technopaths was a highlight of the game for me.

I guess I live in a world where Bioshock infinite gets 9s and 10s.

>>376786207
disagree with everything but the audio
dynamic combat music is really hit and miss
reviewers are completely retarded, I dunno why anyone still pays any attention to them

>>376787319
You don't know what it's truly like

You don't know even the beginning of it. To feel like you're the only one in the world who sees the sky is blue while everybody else on the planet says the sky is red.

You don't know.

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>>376787319
It's really strange isn't it?

Im like 16 hours in and just now saw the low reviews. Couldn't disagree more.

>>376786367
the audio levels and mixing are all over the place and bad

>>376787726
Don't forget to order Skyrim Special Edition and the Fallout 4 Season Pass

Harvey B T F O

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>>376787319

>That part where you had to restart the generators and they had all those turrets for you deploy, only to have them taken over by the double technopaths

Those motherfuckers got me good, I wasn't even mad.

>>376787802
I disliked both of those though.

>>376786425
>Prey reviews have been surprisingly honest.
No, they weren't. Prey reviews are "gaming journalists" chimping out because Bethesda literally told them they are irrelevant. And they are.

>>376787906
You love them though.

>>376786367
the game shouts at the player if a mimic does anything within the entire fucking ship

It's my biggest gripe, Prey on its hardest difficulty is pretty good if you haven't played it

>>376787906
it's a publishing is the same as developing meme

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Here's my theory:

The entire game is itself a simulation as revealed. So we have to examine the themes and events in order to make a guess at what the simulation was intended to do. Neuromods are intended to change not only what you know but also your personality. This mod is testing Fear and Empathy. Empathy is tested over time not just by the questionnaires but whether the subject (the player) kills or saves more people on subsequent tests (playthrus). Fear is being tested by having the subject not only face external fear from physical enemies but becoming an embodiment of that fear(Typhon) itself. All while maintaining empathy. Since its all a simulation and we don't know what reality is like outside the simulation we have to make guesses based on a lack of information but vague leads. That means the entire game is a Rorschach Test for the player as well. The game has Rorschach drawings all over the place.

I like how every Prey thread starts with a rating from some mainstream journalist site.

Prey is a homage to SS, isn't it.

>>376789093

It's a good enough one to tide us over until the System Shock remake and System Shock 3.

>>376786367
>almost silent ambient audio
>mimic moves 2cm on the furthest edge of the screen
>EXTREMELY loud dubstep starts blasting immediately

>>376789093
I consider it a love letter to that style of game.

>>376789234
Perhaps Skrillex is the true final boss.

>gameplay and level design are good
>filler side-content isn't
Seems more like an 8 than a 6

>>376789093
Considering one of Arkane's founders worked on System Shock and there's a million references to Looking Glass and Stephen Russell is doing voice acting

I'd say it's unlikely

>>376789308
It deafinitely defeated my ears when I played with headphones.

Haven't played the game but from what I know about the game it definitely doesn't deserve these low reviews compared to all the garbage these sites give 9s all the time. Even if the game is average all around and deserves 6s and 7s this just shows how inflated the normal review scores are. It's an incredibly obvious contrast.

>>376789148
Will SS3 still have the original team as a lot of the LG employees are currently in Arkane?

>>376789234
Literally doesn't happen in the final game >>376786718

>>376786506
I don't get this. Just turn down the music?
>>376788174
this sounds like a reasonable complaint

>>376789424
>Will SS3 still have the original team
No

why is Prey still not on steam or GOG?
I wish I bought it years back when it was on steam.

>>376789383
I mean, the screens are called Looking Glass aswell,

>>376789418
If you haven't played the game then how are you giving it a review score?

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>This and Alien Isolation gets a 6
>RE7 gets a 8
Why is gamespot such fucking shit?

>>376789234
>80s techno synth
>dubstep
Anon what the fuck?

>>376786207
>>376786207
The reviewer probably played Prey 2006, having played such a gem then going to prey 2017 is like downgrading twice.

Face it boys, 2017 prey is garbage.

>>376786749
You nu-taro fags need to stop this. The game is legitimately his best work but you're making everyone hate it like Undertale by doing that.

>>376786207

Those big outlet just noted the lack of promotion and concluded that the game was something that the studio didn't care off. They played it superficially and gave it mediocre to bad ratings and that was it.

>>376789678
those are accurate scores though

A:I is massively overrated on /v/

>>376786207
Is this just an exceptionally bad year for gaming or did the reviewers start actually doing their jobs?

>>376786867
It has the same problem Dying Light runs into. At first the game is extremely intense and just walking across a room to look at a computer is stressful and by the end we're just breezing through to get to the ending.

Both can be fixed with simple mods like complete removal of skill trees

>>376789678
A:I was fucking boring as shit, making the Alien an instant kill means that you can't actually get scared by him, the robots walk too slow to be a threat and human enemies are retarded as fuck
Not to mention the fuckloads of backtracking was obnoxious

>>376790783
inb4 BotW

>>376790783
>BoTW
>RE7
>HZD
>GR2
>P5
>Yakuza 0
>Nioh
>Nier
>Prey
>Ringed City
>Specter Knight dlc

>bad year
You are nuts.

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>That really odd feeling when IGN is actually correct

>>376790783
It's neither. In PREY's case it's two outlets being butthurt about not getting pre-release copies and going on a vendetta for clicks.

>>376791461
Did you lose your save files?

>>376790853
Are the mods possible, and are there any in the works?

Looks like not giving reviewers early copies of their games really makes them more honest

>>376786207
I kind of agree on score, Prey starts out as a 8-9 and then falls completely flat towards the end. When it focused more on stealth, finding new paths and ways to tackle enemies and situations it gets incredibly tedious when the only challenge become "throw tons of enemies in a room and cause the player to run passed them and devalue the atmosphere." Nitpicks include shit like too much audio/people talking. One after another people chime in tell you shit while someone else is already talking. Endings felt like shit and didn't really go anywhere, no proper conclusion or new info on anything. so yeah Prey is a solid 6 light 7.

>>376786207
I refuse to believe this is worse than andromeda

>more cons than pros
>gets a 6/10

wot

>>376792020
>every bulletpoint is weighed equally

>>376790783
It's an attack on Bethesda for no early copies

>>376786207
A Czech game site gave it 9/10, even considering 10/10 score. According to them, the quests are great, music does a good job at underlining the atmosphere, and the story is really well written and told and is itself great.
imo butthurted retard reviewers are giving it shit scores because BEthesda told them to fuck off and does give them early copies.

>>376786207
THAT BANE WAS GONNA TROLL ME

>>376792218
IGN Italy gave PREY 9.1, There is something to regional preferences no matter how global this industry is.

>>376792128
>singleplayer horror
>story is a con
>characters is a con

nah combat is obviously more important

So is Prey actually good? The announcement gave the impression they turned it into a walking simulator, so I marked it off.

>>376792347
It's as much a walking simulator as System Shock 2 was.

>>376790520
Prey 2006 wasn't a gem, it wasn't even considered good at the time, I replayed it recently, it's as mediocre as I remembered.

Prey 2017 really is a game that makes you able to differentiate between the good reviewers and the bad ones because you need to understand what makes a videogame good to enjoy it.

>>376792294
So we back to the good old "'murrica has shit taste?" I guess.

>>376786207
>quests
>grind

wait, I thought prey was just a regular story FPS.
is this some open world shit?

>>376790520
When will the meme of giving games the exact same fucking name as previous games with not even a fucking subtitle fucking end already?
>Thief
>Doom
>Tomb Raider
>Prey
Stop fucking doing this. It's so fucking annoying and retarded, forcing us to come up with names to differentiate them from their predecessor, like nu-Doom, Prey 2017, Womb Raider, Thi4f, etc.

>>376792347
That's why so many people shat on it, they're not even able to recognize a genre.

It's an Immersive Sim like System Shock, Deus Ex, not a walking simulator or a horror shooter.

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>>376792385

>>376792294
Looking at IGN review, they changed the 4 to 8 when the bug got fixed so I guess 'murricans are not that bad.

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>>376791376
>weebshit are considered good games

>>376792334
Prey isn't a horror game and, yes, combat and level design is extremely important. The level design in Prey absolutely shits on everything else released this year and uses the force of that shit to propel itself miles ahead.

>>376792508
Retard

>>376792476
he's right, faggot

no one gave a fuck about Prey 2006

>>376790783
>BotW
>Yakuza 0
>Nioh
>Nier Automata
>Persona 5
>Eventually Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey and maybe even Xenoblade 2 and Red Dead Redemption 2 if we're lucky

The fuck are you on about? 2017 is the best thing to happen to gaming in a decade.

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>>376792557
>The level design in Prey absolutely shits on everything else released this yea

Close, but it's the same developer so it doesn't matter. Arkane is probably the only developer with any budget left that can do level design these days, it seems.

>>376790783
PCbroold detected

>>376792258
Bane?

>>376786207
>paying attention to gaming media in TWENTY SEVENTEEN
Stop fucking doing this.

>>376789519
Turning down the volume doesn't fix the mix.

>>376790193
>I haven't played the game or don't know shit about music:the post
Really, what the fuck?

>>376792568
not an argument

>>376792648

How is Dishonored 2?

>>376792616
I'm still not seeing anything even remotely interesting.

Its just all been shit.

>>376792495
>change the score
>metacritic doesn't reflect this

pottery

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>>376786207
>implying IGN has ever mattered

Seems like it's doing okay. Has a higher score than Street Fighter 5.

>>376792669
>persona 5

pretty much all consoles have had this year and an update to mk8

>>376792686
But anon, how else am I supposed to form my opinion if I'm a dumb Day 1 customer?

>>376792648
Dishonored 2 was last year

>>376792868
see>>376792616
>>376791376

>but I don't like those

a shame about your shit taste

>>376792772
It's a factual argument, retard.

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>>376792859
>critic and user score differential
this is the real thing to look out for because either side can be pushing agendas

>>376792814
>Look at me I'm so jaded and cool because I hate everything and everything sucks!
How's life as an emo teenager in 2017?

>>376792803
I enjoyed the shit out of it.

If you liked the first one you'll like the second.

>>376793061
I was born in 87, so I wouldn't know.

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>>376786207
>Jap games
>multiple GOTY releases: persona 5, nier, botw

>western games
>LUL shit: outlast, ass effect

Why are they even trying anymore

>>376793128
that's even more pathetic, grow up

>>376793128
The fuck are you still doing on 4chan? You're almost 30

>>376793128
Oh, excuse me, didn't know I was talking to a senile old man, I'll get off your lawn right away grandpa.

>>376793128
You know, you can still have the mindset of a pretentious emo faggot teenager, even if you aren't one.

>>376792925
BOTW is running almost as well as the Wii U version of PC. It was alright, probably the best game this year alongside nier and persona

Yakuza has always sucked. Nioh was a let down especially compared to the series it's heavily inspired by. I didn't like RDR but maybe 2 could be fun.

>>376793210
also born in 87, I guess cynicism and wisdom go hand in hand

>>376793341
>>376793250
>>376793246
do you guys like Transformers, Live Free or Die Hard and Avatar as well?

>>376793061
>>376793246
>>376793250
>>376793210
>>376793341
/v/ without the oldfags would look like a Buzzfeed comment section. kys millenial cucks

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>>376792859
:^)

>>376792987
Why are people shiting on CoH 2 ? I know some fan of the first didn't like it but I didn't know they were enough of them to lower the score that way

>>376786207
>Story feels thin
Maybe, but the story isn't just the ending, it's also visual storytelling, side characters, notes and e-mails, etc...
>Lack of memorable characters
Yes, apart from Alex, Danielle and Luka somewhat.
>Early game is a grind
No. What the fuck?
>Obnoxious sound design
Yes, everyone will agree with that.
>Quests are mostly uninspired
No, every quest tells a little story about specific characters and what's been going on in the station even before the outbreak. Some of the most important plot points are only tacked on in the side quests.

What happened? I thought /v/ appreciated great immersive game design.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1iXNX-U3HqA

>>376795201
Russians got butthurt over the portrayal of the Red Army. And Doctrine DLC shenanigans.

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>>376795462
/v/ does. Your average player today doesn't. I can only assume they didn't give in to focus testing like they did with Dishonored.

>>376786367
you turn the volume down but the game is always loud and when something important happens it's quiet as fuck

also the combat music plays fucking constantly even when enemies run away and hide not to mention the music itself is awful and annoying

>>376786367
He means sound mixing, it might be the worst in aaa game ever made.
You will walk in a quite corridor with quiet music, suddenly, BAMMMMM, loud music you look around what the fuck wheres the boss. But no, its just the music.

>>376795462
>fuck ladders
hes actually right
when ever anybody fucking climbs a ladder, never

Thanks to this shit Prey is probably the last proper singleplayer game from west

retro indie, 999billion AAA cinematic experiences and bland open world crafting shit games only from now on

>>376796419
I think Arkane might be for sure in hot water with Bethesda after two underwhelming titles.

>>376792648
Scenery != Level

>>376796419
Fuck, it makes me sad.
Arkane's been making nothing but amazing games but they're always plagued by some shitty non-gameplay related issues.

>>376796647
kek
only two good games

>Arx Fatalis
>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

Rest is shit

>>376796694
^^

>>376796514
I don't doubt bethesda is well aware of what sells or not anymore. They've straight up admitted that dumbing games down and keeping them simple is what people prefer during some fo4 press conference. I would hope they're self aware enough to know there's a market for these games, but they're never gonna be fallout or skyrim big

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>Great non linear level design, many approaches work to progress
>You can kill January the moment you meet him/her
>You can kill ANY NPC you find
>You can just slaughter all the survivors held up in the cargo bay for fun and listen to an audio log to find out how to progress.
>the space station is large and interconnected, you can use space walks as shortcuts to get around more safely
>fun abilities and equipment, like the goo gun, nerf crossbow etc.
>about 17-30 hours long depending on how many side quests you do, which is rare for any shooter nowaday.
>more a survival horror game than RE7
>Resident Evil 3 like boss enemy that follow you around the station
>Mimiks never let the player feel absolutely save.
>Time limited missions give urgency to quests
>Turrets start shooting you if you turn to much into an alien

The game is really well designed, besides bad audio, an awful ending and unresponsive combat, it is easily a 8-9/10 game.

IGN and gamespot reviews have always been worthless.
I mean, we are talking about the fucker who gave Fallout 4 a 9.5

>>376796834
Unresponsive combat? The game has all the right buttons and respone curve (strife, jump shots, peak etc) for combat, it really feels like HL/SS. Are you playing on console by any chance

>>376786207
>Trusting the opinion of a site that gives botw a 10/10

It should be illegal for a game to have a soundtrack this catchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD2uRmcmMu8

>>376797328
Really needed to get used to the male vocals but it sounds pretty great.

>>376797407
The female vocals are better for the opener but the second part sounds so much better with male desu

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>>376797158
Not him, but the I didn't like the gunplay at all. Maybe when I get more upgrades it'd get better, but as of now I just don't feel it.
Still, a great game.

>>376796694
Why does this board have so many people who shit on things like Dishonored that actually make an effort to move games forward?

I can see people being upset about shitty Ubisoft games, but it's amazing how many people here go after stuff like Dishonored. It's such a specific thing to dislike

>>376797328
>not posting best track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvDswh7eXw4

Can we talk about one of his points in the review is that he couldn't be bothered to go and save Mikhaila or grab the piano music for Igwe and was then upset that this negatively effected his ending? How the fuck did he manage to spend near 40 hours in the game without even completing side missions?

>>376797328
This song was made by the president of Arkane (Raf).
You can see him playing the guitar here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLyoXplpM5Y

>>376786273
Guess why they are honestwith this one?
Because Beth doesnt send review copies to journos anymore

I'm really on the fence on this one.
Does the atmosphere feel like SS2?
What I mean is SS2 was very eerie, creepy. If you turned off the music you could hear the quiet space station humming noises and it was a really great experience.
I liked Bioshock but I found it to be too 'cartoonish'.
How's this game lads?

My dream game would be a remake of SS2 on the Alien: Isolation engine/style.

>>376797874
Honestly you should just go for it if you liked SS2 in any way.

This type of game only comes round like every 5-10 years as a AAA

>>376797874
Played Prey and SS2.
I'd say it depends on the parts of the Station when it comes to atmosphere.
Some levels feel more Bioshock (Arboterum, Bridge, Shuttle Bay).
Some other more SS2 (Psychotronics, Life Support, Power Plant).

>>376797328
Does this version play at some point in the game, all I can remember is the version with Danielle singing.

Speaking of Danielle, can you save her? Can you kill her yourself?

>>376786207
>Early game is a grind
>Combat becomes satisfying and rewarding
Early game was the only fun part combat wise, what a fucking horrible reviewer. By even mid-game you can't be killed, and by late game you can basically be a demi-god with practically every skill in the game. I say this after playing through on Nightmare.

>>376798371
So just like Shock 2?

>>376798465
Exactly - I wasn't dissing on the game so much as I was on the reviewer. I don't see how they can consider being blatantly overpowered as, "satisfying and rewarding".

>>376798536
because he wanted another power fantasy shoot all the people corridor shooter cinematic experience, not a slow burn sneaky wrench em up.

I seriously hope these negative reviews from the mainstream don't damage the chances of us getting anything more interesting than cinematic corridor shooters. I mean why put all this effort in if you can just make a movie game and get 10/10s across the board

This just means the game will go on sale very quickly and I can pick it up for cheap.

>>376797572
>Dishonored that actually make an effort to move games forward
>I can see people being upset about shitty Ubisoft games
You're one narrowminded faggot, aren't you?

>>376800557
>muh open world clone games

>>376801071
>I don't play them Ubisoft games because I play games only for fedoratippers such as myself

>>376797572
In what way did Dishonored make an effort to move games forward? It's just a watered down version of Thief and Deus Ex, which is better than Ubisoft shit but still a regression overall.

>>376801071
>muh system shock clone games
I mean Deus Ex and Bioshock have their own identity. Prey is a straight ripoff.

>>376801267
Dishonored games actually put effort into level design and systems based gameplay rather than just making slightly nicer looking setpieces each year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWSIHC2lvn4

>>376801321
>/v/ is full of threads for Ubisoft formula open world games that get 5-6 games like it every single year
>Prey is accused of being a rip of when the last game really like it is Bioshock 10 years ago

>>376801989
>Ubisoft formula open world games that get 5-6 games like it every single year
You haven't even played them and lying on the internet, just fuck off

>>376803705
Yves Guillemot pls go