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I don't want to continue playing without Ilbro.
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ded thred
ded gaem
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>game's actually dead
wtf
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>XI got a free trial
Welp, time to give it a try and get hooked like fucking a girl you had a crush on 15 years ago.
See you fags in Heavenstorm Reborn.
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>>376782942
XI always had a free trial
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I finally reached Level 60 WAR and I'm not really liking its potential.

I hope they buff WAR in the next expansion!
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>>376782856
>Content patches were terrible
>game balance has been terrible
>Raids have been terrible
>Things to do besides the raids have been terrible

What did you expect? The dev team keeps listening to their retarded community and fucking up what was a good game.
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>>376782942
>Posts worst girl
>Too stupid to realize XI's always had a free trial
Sounds about right.
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>>376782548
>Group wipes to Arachne
Such is life in the EU.
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>>376782548
I just don't want to continue playing.
So I'm not going to.
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SLOPPY
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How do you SCHfags handle Eos on Obey? Juggling heals with EOS while DPSing gives me a headache.
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>>376783113
>SCoB was the peak
What went right?
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>>376783253
>almost never wipe
Feels good to be on primal.
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>>376783517
Play with a keyboard
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>>376783024
>>376783163
Really? I tried to find this trial mode before on the main site and SE store but I guess it was down back then. Main site says that it returned today, with an increased level cap for free players.
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>>376783852
That's what I always use tho
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>>376782548
Isn't he technically some small part of Shinryu now and probably going to appear again during SB?
Also why did Shinryu get summoned when they all wanked over Rhalgr so much?
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>>376783517
use mouse too?
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>>376783970
Dragon eyes and plot convenience because muh omega.
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>>376783970
Ilberd never wanked over Rhalgr. What he wanted was an even bigger, blacker dragon than Bahamut to show up and throw another Calamity back at the ones who caused it. He'd actually settled down with a family in Ul'dah before the Garleans called down Dalamud and stole everything from him a second time. Because he was the summoner and his will was more powerful than any of his sacrifices, it came out as what he wanted. He's not technically alive inside Shinryu, but his ideals and emotions live on inside it the same way Titan mimicked Ga Bu.
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>>376784164
He says that he would become a demon so I think he's alive.
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>>376784392
That was just in reference to him slaughtering hundreds of his own people in order to summon Shinryu. Not everything is literal.
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>>376784164
>He'd actually settled down with a family in Ul'dah before the Garleans called down Dalamud and stole everything from him a second time
I actually didnt know this, when was this mentioned?
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>>376784658
When you meet him for the very first time while handing out Crystal Braves uniforms. The lore book talks about it too. Latching on to Ala Mhigo again was his way of coping.
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>>376784738
Does he really have to go full nog to cope?
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Where can I see the Stormblood class changes?
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>>376786773

by playing the game on June 20th
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Loss of love and life drive a good man to do bad things anon.
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>>376786773
In 10 days, during live letter.
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>>376787289
>they still reveal absolutely nothing
>"rook at this screenshot of kugane!"
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>>376787367
>screenshots of needlessly flashy BLM actions
>still no new egis
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>>376787703
Sephirot-egi is coming soon™
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>>376787367
They may show off the rest of the new abilities, but there's no way we'll get actual numbers before the servers go down for early access.
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>p2w retainer management app
>leveling jump potions
They can't keep getting away with this.
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>>376787703
>get new egis
>but is completely a useless replacement for current egis and does contribute to the smn as a whole
where is that butt hurt smn fag at
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post scores
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>>376783852
I play on pad and use eos on obey. The extra hot bars that you double tap is more than enough.
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>>376788058
>>376787703
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>>376788176
Imagine being so insecure that you feel the need to show off how much money you waste on video-games.
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>>376788350
>tfw you work your shitty part time job for 5 months to build a decent pc
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>>376788350
They're trying to show off their character. They need to fuck off back to /xivg/.
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Do I need the DS4 for remote play?

It's such a shitty controller.
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>>376788350
Imagine being so insecure that you feel the need to berate others on a Mongolian basket weaving forum for scoring better than you on a Chinese benchmark.
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Hey, Warrior of Light! We need to go fight the primals!
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>>376788608
I want to insert that fairy on my ass
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>>376788462
Never fucking post that image again.
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>>376788696

ok but first you really need to deal with those primals!
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Let's talk about Lore
What are some future dungeon, primal or trials you can evidently predict fore future?
Im thinking of a phantom train dungeon when we have to sneak ourselves into the Garlean Capital via the Phantom train. The last boss of the dungeon might be the fake deformed president in ffviii that you fought in the train.
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>>376788842
Four fiends
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>>376788842
*for the future*
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>>376788462
>They need to fuck off back to /xivg/.

Just like you, and everyone else in this thread, faggot.
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>>376788842
I might have miss heard it, but in anonymoos lorecast Koji hinted that you might see the same primal again but with different features because different tribe believe in the same deity and name except form. He mention another Bismark but much more different and grand. Maybe it's that whale in the new world map.
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>>376782548
>Faggots kills himself
>We'll never choke the life out of him

its not fair
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>>376788789
Fuck you, you little bitch, don't think I don't know your tricks.
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>>376788883
I'm surprised that they haven't used these guys yet. It would be a far more obvious set of trial bosses than Warring Triad.
I guess they are probably saving it for the "FFI-inspired" expansion/raid or some pre-fight before Zordiak. Noe that I think about it, save for "classic" stuff like jobs, minor monsters and items, there isn't much else to get from FFI without going full FFI in the player's face.
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>>376789123

Anon, the primals represent the greatest threat to Eorzea! We have to act quickly!
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>>376788883
I wouldnt be surprised if four fiends was a interdemensional rift fight
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>>376789216
Yeah, no. Go try it with someone who's stupid enough not to know what you're about.
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>>376788842
Hopin for some ExDeath in Interdimensional Rift, maybe have the four warriors of dawn play some sort of role. Though I doubt they'd have the wolf man, they'd probably just change him to be a Roe.
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>>376788842
The tale of Kaguya
Dungeon: bamboo Forrest maze
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>>376789284
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>>376789423
>Krile won't appear
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Is there a gallery or something I can view for finding glamour gear?
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>>376789619
https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/gearsets
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>>376788842
Some way another, a Chinese mythical dungeon will be there since the Japanese one is already at presence. A heavy Buddhist theme dungeon or something.
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>All these fucking 0 dps healers on duty finder
Should i call them out for their lazy shit?
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>>376789759
>Romance of the three kingdoms Bosses.
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>>376789869
>healer
>DPS
>holy trinity
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>>376789869
Only if they're a new player and don't know better. Actual lazy shits will just slow the run down even more with their bitching if you call them out.
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>>376789670

Thank you. Do you know if there is a list of appearances for weapons as well?
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>>376789869
>Should i call them out for their lazy shit?
YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB!!!
I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DPS U SHITTER!!
NETFLIX IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN YOUR TIME
OMG I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN DPS RIGHT NOW!!
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-.- omg
*vote kicks you*

There you go. Saved you the trouble of calling them out. It never works the way you want it to.
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>>376789970
>muh trinity
Must be fun standing around doing nothing
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>>376790128
I don't. But most of the weapons have pictures on the lodestone.
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>>376790240
Sorry for not having ADHD.
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>>376789759
just to clarify, Asura do exist in the previous ff, so she obviously will shows up.
Prepare for 3 set of rng rotating phases
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Anyone else going to wait until Stormblood is on sale?

The lack of disclosure concerning any kind of novel additions to the game, including SE being so tight-lipped about the combat changes, coupled with the lack of a new race and the fact we're only getting 2 new jobs suggests they're just not trying anymore (and not even trying to hide it).
I'm still invested in the story, but I'm sick of the content trickle and have washed my hands of the abysmal raiding scene; the minimum you can subscribe for is a month, and I suspect I'll need to wait until 4.4 until there's enough content to justify that.
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>>376790291
Sorry to hear you have downs, and can't do more than one thing at a time. Playing games must be hard for you :(
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>want to farm savage but no one love me and pugs are idiots joining farm even when they don't know the mechanics
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I liked FF14 until I had to play with other people
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>>376790291
Now what does that even mean?
As long as your tank isn't a complete retard, you have large gaps where you're just not doing anything that you could use for damage.
I have the same opinion about DRKs who just stay in Grit spamming their emnity combo instead of switching off and timing their cooldowns.
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>>376790405
>lack of a new race
thanks god
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>>376789902
>the devs are shufags
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>>376788842

I want to fight these niggas
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>>376790405
>lack of a new race
Of course a lizardlover would be upset about that.
Sorry you can't spend hundred of dollars on Fantasia constantly switching between your generic shitty waifus.
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>>376790405
EXPANSION NEED A NEW RACE EVERY TIME LIKE IN MY WOW, FUCK THE LORE, I WANT TO PLAY AS A FURRY
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>>376790548
Literally who
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>>376790473
>>376790606
>>376790646
I don't want a new race, so much as it's indicative of a lack of effort.

The 3.55 story ended on a bung-note.
Instead of 3 new jobs we're only getting 2.
SE hasn't announced any kind of new content aside from swimming, which is irrelevant except for gatherers and the ERP community.
And on top of all that there's no new race.

Surely by not including a new race and a third job there's a surplus of labour available? Where is that effort being invested? Why am I paying more for this expansion when it's bringing nothing new to the table, and somehow less of the derivative content we're used to?

Also I can post cats, or midlanders, or elezen if you'd prefer.
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>>376790646
And what's the problem with new races?.
Is not like lizard appear out of nowhere right?.
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>>376790646
that's right I agree with you anon! FFxiv need a more authentic race. Would you use me to erb?
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>>376790820
New races add nothing except fantasia sales. It would just be another cute human with animal accessories.
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>>376782548
>Just finished HW story
>Illberd offs himself
H-he'll be back right?
SE wouldn't kill off one of my favorite bad guys who's more likable than 99.9% of the main cast, would they?
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>>376790823
Lizards are from Othard, where we are going now, why would there be a new race there
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>>376790646
I rather have new hair styles. Most of the current one sucks
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>>376790691

FFIV anon...
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>>376788842
I'm hoping the Necrophobe fight will be good. I can't imagine them not including him in Omega. Gilgamesh could help in the normal mode and then savage could have an extra phase after he comically knocks him out of the arena.
Catastrophe and Wiegraf are also pretty likely to appear.
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>>376790930
The true tragedy
>only 2 new hair lmao, one gay boyband haircut and 1 ala mhigger haircut
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>>376789869
>people that play who whm and not have the urge to spam rocks and holy while the tank cries for heals
>tfw benediction is off cd

If a tank is too squishy for me to dps I ask for a kick or take penalty desu. Whm is fun I need to get it 60
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>>376789970
>game is made for healers and tanks to output dps


I always find it weird swapping from wow to ff14. WoW healers bitch and bitch, crying for more damage. FF14 healers don't even want to heal if they can help it.
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>>376790941
I would prefer the real fiends.
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>>376790867

not him but you're missing the point so fucking hard. Let me simplify if for you.

A good dev: "new races are gay so instead of doing that we're doing this other cool thing"

Stormblood devs: "new races are gay so lol have nothing instead"
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>>376790864
reddit complains about Aura not being beastly enough and wanted to change cat and lizard to look more animal like.
Then when they got that pict shown in their face, they started tuck their tail and swallow their words.
>>376790548
not the magus sisters
pleb taste
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>>376790820
This is a pretty real set of concerns to have, going into HW we had a new race, and 3 new jobs. Stormblood apparently has more money behind it, but we have no new race, and one less new job. The only thing it has up front that HW didn't is a new housing area. You could argue swimming, but that's pretty much just flying but slower. And while housing is nice, it's not core content.

We're like a month away from launch and there's really no indication that content wise there will be anything different or improved from HW, and for those that were around from HW-launch, it's worrying.

>>376790912
They made an excuse for lizards to reach Eorzea, why not some other race to reach Eorzea or Othard.
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I'd rather have actual content than cosmetic shit like a new race. HW may have had a new race but there was also like a 5 month content drought on it's release.
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>>376791217

I'm surprised they aren't a fight yet.
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>>376791224
The only part of the world left unexplored are Meracydia and the new world.
New wold only had mamool ja and meracydia is cat land
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>>376790867
Doesn't disprove my point.
Seriously, why is SE being so tight-lipped about the expansion? Is it because there's absolutely nothing to look forward to?

I know SE is too lazy to implement body sliders, but some new character customisation options wouldn't have gone amiss. Let me paint my character's nails, or add body hair for dudes, or something Jesus.

>>376790930
This too.
When I opened the benchmark and they only had 2 new styles I was shocked. When I saw what those styles were (>>376790987) I was appalled. They didn't even include the final Type:0 hairstyle.
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>>376791217
>reddit complains about Aura not being beastly enough and wanted to change cat and lizard to look more animal like.
>Then when they got that pict shown in their face

I can cherry pick too
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>>376791336
I am sure as the devs/makers of lore they could pull something out if they felt like it. Not that I really want them to, I don't really give a shit about new races, but it goes towards worrying about how much they're putting into this expansion.
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>>376788176
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>>376788842
It probably won't be in 4.0 but I would like to see a dungeon like the great sea trench from ff5 at some point during Stormblood.
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>>376791340
>Muscle sliders instead of just muscle texture sliders.
>Rebalanced boobs slider, possibly with more options.
>Anything that affects the lower body in any way.
>The ability to make characters tall or short rather than just scaled up or down.

God I wish.
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If you're not a hyur you're an animal desu.
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>>376791149

Original fiends would be neat too, even though we already have a Tiamat ingame.
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>>376791340
>we will never get the old models back
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>tfw no one to help me farm lore or light
I just need like...8, 10 more Umbrite and I'm done with this step.
But fuck, I've done all this content so much that it's hard to care.
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>>376791825
Didn't that only apply to catgirls?
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>>376791717
dont worry the next "dieam" will be Submarine adventure in the deep.

actually I would love a deep pitch black ocean floor dungeon, kinda spooky
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>>376791865
Server?
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>>376791825

what's the difference?
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>>376791825
>wanting the new models
>not new improved models
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>>376791340
The Sice hair is going to be part of the Gold Saucer holiday event isn't it?
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>>376791994
C U T E
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>>376788842
Opera house in Garlean when?
Dungeon with the main song echo as you go through it.
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>still no ass slider
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>>376789158
>>376788883
>>376789246
Half of them are already in the game, one is a boss of two dungeons and one is an NPC.
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>>376792318
>tits are small even at 100 bust
>no ass slider
>can't make a THICC lady
Why live?
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>>376792183
screw me over, but I want a nostalgia trip.
I wish would compose another song with a same tune like Eyes on Me again later in the future story.
The Garlean Empire culture seems to be modern enough to have this kind of aesthetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGMU6sdVBE
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>>376791994
What bottom piece is that?
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>>376792365
just make a female roe fagget
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>>376792441
I can't get over their noses.
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>>376792408
Photoshoped coliseum.
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>he doesn't play the manliest race
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>>376792441
You mean highlander.
Roes have disgusting manly bodies.
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>>376792757
>He doesn't play the manlette race
ftfy
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>>376792757
>being a retarded memer
>being a gay retarded memer

Yeah, fuck off.
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So we've come full circle, degeneracy is now welcomed and encouraged. Just fucking kill these threads
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>>376792757
Cringe.
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>>376792757
>Yoshi will never delete lalas from the game because hes one too
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>>376793039
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>>376793110
CHOPPED
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>>376793130
>happy lalamerchant
>papalymo

they better not get pipin
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>>376782548
I just quit today. The playerbase sucks SE's dick so much that they defend jump potions and the situation that caused them. They pretty much just told me "lmao deal with it shit happens". How you can defend lazy cash-grabs and horrible design choices is beyond me. The moment I learned that you HAVE to do the 80-100 hours of ARR to even touch HW I knew there was a problem. Jump potions don't even fix it, it just them going "lmao grind for 140 hours in ARR and HW or pay us. Don't forget those job potions too, goy".

On top of that why the fuck isn't leveling via PvP an option? You already can hit 60 in PotD, putting a training mode for PvP then giving it exp equal to PotD would be amazing. FATEs are fucking shit and dead and running the same fucking dungeon for 2-3 levels is cancer along with the mindless PotD grind. That coupled with the horrific job design choices like "lmao impulse drive until 26" or "lmao shield oath level 40" I'm amazed I didn't quit early on. Entire game is nothing but trying to reel in whales and milk them via retainers, fantasia potions, glamours, mounts, emotes, and dances. Pure cancer. I'm completely done with MMO's now since SE cured my obsession with them.
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>>376793376
>I just quit today.
how far did you get
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>>376793376
can i hav ur stuff?
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>>376783113
>fucking up what was a good game
Surely you don't mean 1.0 right?
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>>376793435
Assuming it isn't just shitposting its probably the guy from last thread that ground to 52 on his first job in potd and didn't do any of the msq after level 30.
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>>376793565
That wouldn't surprise me, honestly.
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>>376793565
why would anyone potd their first job? You dont get any bonus exp plus MSQ alone easily get you to lvl 60.
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>>376793771
Because people are idiots.
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>>376793771
>MSQ alone easily get you to lvl 60.
lolno
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>>376793565
>>376793435

Played 2-3 weeks in free trial and got all jobs to 30 with most crafting/gather to 20+. Played as an old Hyur with gray hair. It was rough in the start but I had fine in the middle but the final straw was how everyone was defending SE and never criticizing them. Even people who never spoke in my FC spoke to defend them. Wasn't even me going full on sperg either. Being told "Shit happens, deal with it" after I complained about how next to nothing has been revealed about the expansion and how terrible the early game is baffled me. I knew Leviathan was filled with idiots dancing in Limsa 24/7 erping with each other but I thought at least my FC felt uneasy about the future of the game with how poorly designed things are.
>>376793771
Wrong. 47-49, I think, requires you to grind. A few spots before that and I think I had to do some grinding at 57 or 58 as well. Side-quests are pretty damn useless honestly.
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>>376793845
The only part you need extra xp is one spot in the late 30's. They increased the heavensward xp by a shit ton.
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>>376783517
Macros. I have a macro that goes fey illumination > rouse > whispering dawn. Whispering dawn and rouse end up basically sharing a cd and fey is used whenever it's up. Just be sure to actually use hotkeys and macros
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>>376793845
>That gap after the aery

Fucking A dude
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>>376793978
>how next to nothing has been revealed about the expansion
And that's a problem becasuse..?
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>hype as fuck to get flying in HW
>going on level 54 and I'm still not flying

why do MMOs have to gate E V E R Y T H I N G? Flying is fun, people want to fly, just give me flying! I'm not going to stop playing your game because I am having fun, it's actually the opposite!
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>>376793376
>I need to do the story to unlock more story
Never got that issue
>-m-muh only end game matters mentality
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>>376794082
WoWfugees are used to having PTR access to the entire expansion and knowing everything before it comes out.
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>>376794135
>Flying is fun
No it's not, it's the same as walking just in two more directions
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>>376794075
>Finish level 47 main mission
>Next mission is level 50
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>>376793978
I mean if you think doing 10 min daily roulette and clearing all the dungeon atleast once is a grind then yea sure
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>>376794135

This is why adding flying was a mistake.
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>>376794135
Just go get the fucking aether currents you lazy bitch. They gate it because they want you to explore and progress through the zone like an RPG first instead of flying over it.
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>>376794135
WoWfugee everyone
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>>376793978
>Wasn't even me going full on sperg either.
In fairness, that's what every sperg says.
If you wanted to complain and be pessimistic about the game, /v/ is the place to be. If your FC sucks, you should find a better one. I don't think anyone has stuck with their first FC.
>next to nothing has been revealed about the expansion
Sad to say, but there's nothing to really reveal. It's going to be Heavensward, Yet Another One. Most people playing either like that, or begrudgingly accept it because its not like the game is going to change, and expecting it to at this point is getting increasingly futile. That doesn't make it okay, but that's just the way it is.
>and how terrible the early game is
That one is well known and discussed. Not sure what your FC is smoking to defend that.
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>game going down for a whole 2 days on monday
what do
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>>376794223
>>376794227
>>376794249
>IF YOU'RE HAVING FUN IT IMMEDIATELY CHEAPENS THE MMO """"EXPERIENCE"""
>IF YOU DO NOT LIKE DOING BORING STUFF IN ORDER TO GET TO THE FUN PART YOU ARE RUINING MUH GAME

why are we allowed to sprint and jump from level 1? Shouldn't sprinting be earned? What about jumping? It's too fun to jump, should be gated!
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>>376794342
Why do the other servers also need to come down for a day?
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>>376794475
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>>376794475
Flying isn't fun
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>>376794475
>Ignoring the entire zone by flying over it is fun
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>376794485
Because american bitched and moan about how unfair it was that their's is the only one going down for maint.
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>level 50
>unlock 20 50 dungeons
>20 trials
>Hildibrand
>crystal tower
>coil
wtf I have nothing to do until ishgard
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>these posts criticizing people complaining about the 2.1 to prevent 3.0 content

That shit was Fucking filler to the max. It honestly should be reworked for the expac. This is coming from someone who loved the story.
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>>376794082
Indicative of a shit expansion coming. This is usually true across the board and it's a terrible way to build hype. If they fail to deliver on what the players expectations are, which I'm sure they will, there will be backlash.
>>376794161
>Finally get 50
>Have to do fetch quests
>more fetch quests
>even more fetch quests
>moving form point A to B ad nauseam.
>So bad that you hit HW at level 51-53 depending on if you take breaks to do PotD, leveling roulette, or FATES.
I was personally at level 52 with halfway exp to 53.
>>376794203
What world do you live in where you have 10m roulette that aren't the Primals? Also yeah, it's a grind because you're not advancing in the story and you have to level to get back to progressing in the story which is bullshit because the moment you hit 50 you have to do a million fetch quests .
>>376794279
It's easier to just quit at this point. Every other MMO before that I've tried has failed. Considering what I've experienced thus far this one will too. I think the FC I was in just wanted to defend the game they've heavily infested their time in. They were all Savage raiders and pretty much fully decked out.
>>376794227
Nah, fuck off. Hiding Aethercurrents behind side-quests, sure. Hiding them behind MSQ and having to enter a no-flying zone to do a long ass walk between points with only 1 aethercurrent left? Complete horse shit. Think that happened in Sea of Clouds. Felt fucking horrible.
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>>376794485
They're upgrading the server system in its entirety to cope with stormblood changes. This includes all datacenters.
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>Dun Scaith
>Get this
Time to cut out the middle man and just kill myself.
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>>376794626
None of this helps you get to Ishgard faster
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>>376794571
The new zones are INTENTIONALLY hard and frustrating to navigate in order to tempt you with flying. When you finally get it, you're done and you don't actually need it.
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>>376794475
Did you know that Aether currents are actually easier to get now than they were before?

Stop being a fucking bitch. You get like 75% of them on the way to most of your quest objectives and the last ones by taking 10 steps to the right. Use your fucking Aether compass.
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>>376794719
Turn out the newest content isn't the only thing that matter in this game and it's better to take your time to enjoy everything.
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>>376794665
>Indicative of a shit expansion coming
It's not
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>>376794740
>The new zones are INTENTIONALLY hard and frustrating
You can't be fucking serious dude. How much of a lazy, casual bitch are you?
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>>376794776
I didn't know you worked for the dev team. Tell me, are you guys doing anything to fix the game or just more shit for the mogstore with the most barebones content possible?
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>>376794719
If you're just trying to make a mad dash for current endgame, you're going to be very fucking disappointed when you get there.
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>>376794854
Not an argument
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>>376783113
It is a good game still. If you want broken patches check WoW.
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>why can't I afk with everyone else in idleshire wah
wowfugees.
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>>376794925
WoW has patches!?
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>>376794920
Yeah because you sure proved me wrong with your hot opinions there lad. We'll see who's right during the live letter where they just show male bunny outfits and more emotes for the mogstore.
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>>376794771
>>376794861
It's more of a matter of whether you can deal with not having all your abilities/maximum level.
Also a lot of people are bothered by being behind the curve in MMOs
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>>376795043
>Yeah because you sure proved me wrong with your hot opinions there lad
There's nothing to prove wrong. Lack of information about future expansion is objectively not an indicative of it's quality. You have no argument, you're just wrong
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>>376790864
All the fucking races are fine except the proportion and animations of Elezen. People have to shut the fuck up about wanting Viera already.

I'm all in for another race maybe something more animal beast tribe like.

People complain too fucking much over aesthetics.
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>>376782548
he keep living as a giant dragon
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>>376795126
>Devs are just building up hype for their game! It's totally fine that the only thing we've gotten about the new expansion has been a few screen shots! It's okay, just buy more mounts on the mogshop. Ignore everything bad that has recently gone wrong. Please understand, the liveletter will be the best thing ever!
Yeah, nah. I know enough from other games to realize that this level of silence is not a good sign. Doesn't matter if it's from an indie dev or AAA publisher. SE is no different. I sincerely hope they don't live up to the hype they built and finally shut down like 1.0 should've done.
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>>376794665
I have misgivings with the game but you just seem like a sour person who went in with no friends, and is so down/bitter about everything that you won't make any friends while playing.

There are slow spots and parts of the 2.x series that kinda slog, but socializing makes the slow less annoying, or just gives you friends that will do the dungeons/trials with you.

I'd say come to my super friendly FC that loves new people and helping them, but I personally don't want to have anything to do with you so I'd feel bad dumping you on them.
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>>376794665
Heavensward wasn't successful?
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>>376795126
Stop responding to such obvious shitposting.
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>>376795404
Please respond.
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>>376794665
You're just being an entitled bitch, doing aether currents to unlock flying is permanent. It's been so long ago I've unlocked them that I forgot it was even a thing. Suck it up.
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>>376795404
Ok
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any eurobros here playing on na datacenters scared of the change in latency caused by the new server location?

do you plan to stay regardless or give in and transfer to chaos?
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>>376793376
>Entire game is nothing but trying to reel in whales and milk them via retainers, fantasia potions, glamours, mounts, emotes, and dances
All modern MMORPGs are waifu simulators
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>>376795297
Socializing and playing with friends can literally make any game fun. I made a good amount of friends due to fishing, PotD, and tanking/healing dungeons. That doesn't excuse the horrible early game, atrocious skill acquirement timing, grinding requirement between MSQ quests, or the million fetch quests at 50.
>>376795372
Money isn't the only metric to determine success. The way they've taken classes such as MCH and BRD isn't a good sign. Putting emotes/dances in the mogshop isn't good. The upcoming Jump pots isn't good. I'm sure the latter 2 make them a lot of money but it's only a matter of time because they're surviving on nothing but whales.
>>376795474
Fuck off m8. I just bitched about one fucking aethercurrent node that was hidden behind one MSQ quest that should've been given to you earlier because you go like 3 levels with that specific aethercurrent missing.
>>376795621
Where did it all go wrong
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>>376782548
>finally just preordered stormblood
whew i was worried what my yuri harem would do without me
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>>376795621
I wouldn't mind half as much if waifufags weren't one of the most obnoxious bunch of desperate retards.
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>>376795505
i'll stay
playing with 50 ping more probably won't be that bad
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>>376788883
they are set to be the warring triad of stormblood
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>>376795749
There's actually a ping threshold at which the game basically becomes unplayable. If you press Swiftcast and another spell and it starts hardcasting, you're fucked.
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>>376795737
>tfw gotta peep my check to see if the bread right so I can preorder

If I can I'll get the special edition if it's worth it. Do you get early access too?
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>>376795928
>gotta peep my check to see if the bread right
what?
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>>376795925
What's hardcasting?
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>>376796061
When you cast stuff normally.
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>>376796061
Normal casting.
Swiftcast makes your next cast instant, so if you do that and get what he described, your ping is really shit.
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>Yoshi is trying to convince people that the game is made to be played with a ping of 200 on the forums

Server """upgrade"""" incoming indeed. Square is in desperate need to save money so if you think this is anything but a downgrade, you are delusional. IO and hitman sacked, deus ex sacked, tomb raider gone, FFXV spent every last yen of their reserves. Why do you think skip potions and """"new"""" servers are coming at the same time?
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>>376796089
>>376796146
Thank you
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>>376795714
So you've made friends that will help you through stuff, but you still can't manage to get anyone to help you get your roulettes under 10m. Also how the fuck are you getting long roulette queues while playing tank/healer?

You know, I remember doing these fetch quests, in fact, I'm fairly certain most people have done these MSQ quests. Yes they often times aren't that fun in the 2.x series, but overall you're only spending like 4-6 hours on all those and then you're in HW, which has a pretty consistently enjoyable MSQ.

Also let's not forget that while the early game wasn't great, you're done with it now! You made it to at least HW considering your bitching about an aethercurrent.

If you're quitting now over worries that Stormblood doesn't have a lot of information about it, it makes me wonder why you even put up with it to this point. You're past the stuff that sucks, you don't have to be one of us that put up with the 3.0 content drought though you could still join us for the inevitable 4.0 one, and you apparently have friends that make anything fun.

It is a mystery
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>>376796025
Gotta see what bills and expenses I need to pay after getting my pay from work to see if I can preorder

Simple ebonics
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>>376793376
i really only defend leveling jump potions just because i have some jobs i want to get on 60 on my alt and can't be bothered to level them after leveling all my main's job to 60 (that i got pre-potd asylum btw)

the community is unrecoverably terrible, i've been playing for 4 years and the skill level reached the bottom of the barrel, people reached all the way to 60, doing countless quests and grinds and still are incapable of doing the most basic shit like use defensive cds on tanks or learning a basic rotation on dps

leveling through pvp would be an interesting concept, but then again people would complain that people are new/shit/afk and just cause massive drama square probably wants to avoid

i like the game but it's undeniable that they pander to the self inserting grown men that pay 20 dollars for a slutty chinese outfit, but sadly the majority of the community that pays for the game are they and the developers need to milk them, if only we lived in a world where people would be more vocal about getting more playable content instead of buttsliders for their fucking catgirl
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>>376796249
The biggest issue is that the game doesn't reward good play and never makes an attempt to teach players how to play.

Content is too instanced too so even if you want to be friend a good player they may not be on your server.
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>>376796162
Yeah, cheap-out on the developing the one non-mobile game that's profitable; that's a smart move.
Fucking Square Enix.
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>>376795714
>Money isn't the only metric to determine success
False
>Putting emotes/dances in the mogshop isn't good
Irrelevant
>upcoming Jump pots isn't good
False, I've seen a bunch of people turned away by how gated the game content is
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this kills the sprout
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>>376795928
yep! preorders get early access
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>>376783096
Warrior is already the best tank. Get fucked
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>>376795925
i've cleared all content currently in the game and my ping is bad enough that i hardcast after swiftcast
you have to get used to predicting some things, but the game is only unplayable if you're bad
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>have probably spent 15 hours total of fighting Zurv Ex
>my rotation's already perfected around perfect mechanics
>still no clear because there's always at least one guy that messes up Soar and kills 3 guys or messes up Cross or dies before Cross and kills 5 people
>have absolutely nothing to show for it
>can't even join some groups because it's i265+ only for clear group
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>>376796598
I think you mean coincounter
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>>376796878
Don't lie to yourself anon, you know that if you ever got into a good group by some freak liquor spilling or net disconnecting accident it would be you fucking things up, and the group would disband.
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>>376796456
i really tried to bother myself teaching basic, logical choices to people, but it always boils down to pic related
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>>376797087
Should have vote kicked that MCH. I mean, at least green and orange seemed to at least know shit, maybe even blue too.
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>>376797087
People don't want to get better. It's why these idiots have to get carried though months old primals when they have full Alexander gear.
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>>376797087
lol...nope
his sub his game
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>>376796878
Stop playing. It's just not worth it.
Until such time that SE somehow prevents smacktards from joining PUGs I'm never touching endgame again, and neither should you.

It's fucking criminal that, at the very least, Stone/Sky/Sea isn't mandatory to queue for a duty.
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>>376797190
I'm shocked all 4 members of the party spoke and understood English. Hell despite being retarded Red even seems to put together words and sentences in a coherent fashion.
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>SephEX bird farm
>bonus comes in without warning
>three people leave because of bonus
>claims he has cleared on an alt
>"ask me a mechanic, I'll tell you it"
>phase two hits
>gets smoked by pillars
>bonus leaves duty while we laugh at him

Sometimes the world is just
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How assmad would mnkfags be if GL4 isn't happening?
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>>376796878
just wait for stormblood and roll over those content for your bird
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>>376797087
Bane loses potency?
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>>376797898
I think they would prefer party utility at this point.
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What is the best melee DPS overall?
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>>376798012
NIN.
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Man, I have such a hard on for katanas. I'm most likely gonna be lumped with the weeaboos who are gonna switch to SAM but holy fuck i am PUMPED to slash shit up.
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>>376797898
I
Just
Want
An
AURA
U
R
A

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHY DOES EVERY MONK NPC GET ONE BUT MEEEEEEE
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>>376796598
>zone in
>huge room full of monsters
Why aren't more dungeons like that?
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>>376798060
Why?
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>>376798138
Because nobody likes that dungeon, for one thing.
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>>376798127
GL does give you that blue lightning aura.
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>>376798012
DRG
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>>376798180
i like it.
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>>376798012
MNK
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>>376797190
>>376797253
>>376797295
i was green while orange was an fc friend that was leveling, blue and red were randoms from df, instance was gubal nm, i avoided votekicking because scared of a report, i found out only later kicking for different gameplay isn't a valid reason to warn/ban

my point is that they don't even bother to read tooltips and just make up their own (a classic one is the "foe requiem lowers my damage" i hear often)
you could've just hovered with your mouse over the skill icon and read instead of antagonizing for the sake of not admitting to be wrong

>>376797337
because i play on aether

>>376797928
since 3.0 bane affects more than 3 targets, but from 4 onwards the dot potency is halved
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>>376798012
both of these
>>376798060
>>376798207
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>>376798226
Okay, nobody except you likes that dungeon.
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>>376798184
NOT GOOD ENOUGH
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>>376798259
thats fair
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>>376798012
Monk have the highest deeps so you can carry all the shitters on the party finder
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>>376798286
Play Dragoon. Blood of the Dragon gives you one.
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>>376798180
The only issue with that part is the shitty poison puddles that kill you. If there wasn't that shit on the ground, pulling and fighting safely wouldn't be convoluted.
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>>376797526

>Join Sophia EX farm with bonus
>People complain there is a bonus
>Dont say anythng
>We start the fight anyway
>Half of the "veterans" keep dying to shit like Aero III multiple times and causing wipes
>Only die once in all attempts because ate a tank buster near the edge
>After a couple wipes, we clear
>Gets exposed for the bonus
>They start complaining as if I was the cause of all the wipes when half of them died constantly in every attempt
>Party leader disbands

Can go either way desu
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>>376798317
that's wrong though
NIN has better dps and also better utility
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>>376798346
>step in puddle
>get debuff
>step out of puddle

its not that hard
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>>376798156
Enmity manipulation means your tank can be out of tank stance from the get go and not have to worry too much about aggro
Slash damage for synergy with WAR
Trick Attack for FREE DAMAGE for everyone
Doesn't suffer nearly as much as the other melees from dropping their buff
Solid personal damage on top of all of the above
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>>376798012
WAR.

>>376798060
>>376798207
>>376798236
>>376798249
Wrong and gay and cucks.
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>>376798292
But really, I probably wouldn't mind it if they arranged that first room differently. It's primarily annoying because it's too susceptible to dumb people and has terrain obstacles that are more of a nuisance than a real mechanic.
It also feels a bit HP-padded at 49 (if it's still set at 49) and ends up taking longer than higher-level dungeons that have more complicated fights.
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>>376798349
True. I get shitters without bonus all the time. The bonus isn't the issue as much as people joining farm parties without knowledge and experience.
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>>376798452
this is the correct answer
is it true that WAR has the best burst dps with triple berserk fell cleaves?
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>>376798389
NIN has more consistent DPS and actual synergy with other classes (WAR putting up slash debuff means you don't have to ever use it yourself, giving you even more bonus damage)
MNK has the highest personal DPS in theory but dropping stacks due to mechanics and being the most selfish melee makes them lag behind in current content.
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>>376798487
yeah youre right. and yes its still locked at 49.

However id rather get AV than totorak or sastasha in my leveling roulette any day
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>>376782548
Liberate his homeland in his honor.
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>>376798012
NIN if you're not autistic
MNK if you are
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>>376798532
And what about Dragoon?
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>>376798530
That would be BLM.
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>>376798532
what's the most selfless melee dps?
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>>376798639
nin
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>>376798639
drg putting up disembowl for mch/brd cucks and battle litany to increse crit for everyone
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>>376798592
Synergizes with the current two top DPS.
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>>376798651
Trade high dps for utility. Truly selfless.
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>>376798592
DRG also has synergy that monk lacks, having pierce debuff to benefit themselves + the MCH and also Battle Litany, which is fucking incredible for everyone. their personal DPS is also plenty good, but I personally don't care for managing Blood of the Dragon over just maintaining Huton. It's not terribly hard, just sort of annoying.

MNK is still my favorite of the melee DPS, I hope we get that raid utility that we sorely need since all we bring is Mantra now since DRKs can do Dragon Kick's int debuff.
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>>376798676
isn't DRG one of the reasons we have this meta comp right now
BRD and MCH being top dps is kind of silly
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>>376798639
monk
giving up all raid utility and dps just to give your team something gorgeous to look at
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>>376798772
No, the reason is SE overbuffed MCH and BRD to high heaven during 3.3 (or was it 3.2?).
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>>376798771
managing BOTD is fun though, especially when you master it so you can use alot of geirskoguls, i just hope they tweak BOTD for stormblood, maybe increase max duration to 40-60 seconds and give us more skills that affect the duration
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>>376798772
both those ranged dps got overbuffed in creator and midas respectively

having "support" jobs do more damage than casters that are supposed to do more damage while offering less utility is pants on head balaning
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>>376798670
If anything DRG is the most selfish dps because they're not dependent on other jobs for buffs (outside of things like TA/balance which are outright buffs), talking about things like piercing damage up.

The real kicker is that they're the only job that gets to apply their damage type debuff for 'free' as part of their default, optimal rotation. It's a DPS loss for a NIN to provide their own slashing debuff for instance because they'd rather be using aeolian edge instead.

It's why I just can't enjoy NIN, if theres no warrior around your rotation becomes cancer - while a DRG just keeps to the same script whether in a solo or party situation.
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>>376797087
>when a MCH doesn't reload and grenade spam groups of enemies

Sure their aoe isn't the best but it will still boost your dps a shit load.
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>>376798771
I miss abusing MNK defensively in Coil.
It's why we took them, the DK overlap was just a reason to bring more.
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>>376794740
They spent a dickload of man hours making that huge ass zone. If you could fly right away it would all be for nothing because who would explore it?
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>>376798895
They barely touched MCH at all though HW. Their only straight damage buff was on Hypercharge. Everything else has just been QoL. It's more that the class was already good but it took people a while to get their head around it.

BRD was the one that got overbuffed in 3.3 in response to MCH hitting its stride.
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>>376794715
What am I missing here, this looks like a pretty good spread. A bunch of efficient smile-bots and only one frenchman? Looks like you're set
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>>376798772
>>376798928
BRD and MCH are not top dps from a baseline standpoint. In a solo situation with no mechanics they are still the lowest dps jobs in the game by a longshot - with MNK and BLM on the top end as they should be.
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>>376799179
Dat powercreep. Why fucking why does it always happen fucking hell
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>>376798346
But that's what made that dungeon unique and fun.
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>>376795505
I left for Chaos already. Raiding on Aether was impossible with my work schedule.
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>>376797526
>buy a clear
>get a free pass in every farm party
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>>376799229
True that, it's the combo of leeching off of the NIN and DRG + getting less fucked by mechanics than the other dps that makes BRD/MCH so strong as raid DPS. that AoE that forces the melee to move? you ignore it and keep shooting. that mechanic that shit all over the BLM's leylines and made him run around while spamming scathe? you just turn off wanderer's/gauss and keep moving and shooting.
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>>376799367
>buy a clear
>proceed to fuck up all the """"farm"""" parties you join because you never actually learned anything
>blame each other for the wipes and the pug community becomes even more cancerous
サスガ NA
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>>376799367
This image will never not be incredibly cute.
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>>376799229
nobody cares about dummies, so stop being one

scholar also has lowest dps out of the 3 healers but is the highest one in actual fights that matter
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>>376796598
The first time I did this I absolutely enjoyed it and I did it repeatedly because of how much fun I had with it, but everyone around me kept saying how shit it was and I actually had several people leave cause they got it in roulette. I never really understood why.
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>>376798012
NIN.

It's actually kinda OP when you list everything it can do for a group
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>>376799383
Yeah which is why if you just nerf their potencies you'll basically crater their damage in all non-raid content for no reason. Better to fix the problems that are making the casters and monks underwhelming in raids.

I doubt SE balances around speedkill meta results anyway since thats literally 0.01% of the playerbase. The jobs are already balanced in a vacuum and what composition actually becomes meta when they're combined is an emergent thing you can't plan around.
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Will SE ever make a better girl?
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>people are catching up on the sleeper op jobs ninja and machinist only now
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>>376799731
>be monk until HW
>see mch
>like guns
>try mch
>its pretty fucking good
>play it until now
i just want to see mch wielding guns properly and my dream is complete
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>>376799713
They already did
Garuda
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>>376799731
>want to resub to catch up with a bunch of shit jobs I've avoided all this time
>know it'll kill all my drive to play cause of the grinding
>but still can't stop thinking about resubbing

Stormblood can't get here fast enough.
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>>376799713
Bitch isn't even best snake.
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>>376799573
She looks autistic
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>>376799731
Ninja has been a guaranteed raid slot literally since it came out. MCH has gotten more popular as physical damage has pushed magic dps out more and more.
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>>376799819
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>>376799601

takes actual planning to do many of the pulls, takes actual paying attention to not get one shotted like a chump, plus the whole seedling mechanic giving either quick kills or extra exp

contains a lot of things that are an exception to some of the more typical dungeons
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>>376799867
My man!
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>>376799867
>>376799819
>>376799713
Cancer.
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>>376799862
yet nobody complains about them having a guaranteed raid spots

did you ever notice it's always tank and healer queers shitposting about nerfing x job so they can play instead
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>>376799842
Well, that's all lalas. And they're literal mutants, so yea.
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>>376798912
I think BoTD's duration right now is good, i would like more skills to work with BoTD though, like a super jump or something.
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>>376799458
>must join the raid to gain experience
>need to have experience to join the raid
It goes both ways.
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>>376799962
Yes they do. All the time.
There's no end to the whinging from MNKs bitter over the fact no one wants them.
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>>376799838
FLAT
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>>376796598
Real talk: the only thing that sucks about Aurum Vale is that it has a lvl 49 sync, meaning every job is cut off from a skill that would help a lot.
AV itself does a good job of teaching the party about things like situational awareness and environmental hazards due to the patrols and pools of gold shit. Pity none of what ARR taught players ever popped up again outside of the Binding Coils. Second/Final Coil built on the foundation laid by Binding Coil, but HW dungeons just recycled Coil mechanics and never really introduced anything new or interesting; nothing that would get revisited and expanded upon in Alexander.
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>>376799458
no one says sasuga with katakana
even 流石 is more common
I also heard that buying clears actually gets you blacklisted, but I don't even remember the server I've heard it on, probably gilgamesh
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>>376800151
>try to find Midas group after not raiding since Final Coil
>find a group in PF an hour later
>they trial me on Nidhogg EX which I went into blind
>clear on the second try because I'm not a retard and know how to play
>get static that I stick with through Creator
Have you tried not sucking at the game?
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>>376800305
>Blacklists on 14k servers
>Real
It's probably for low-pops on Aether
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>>376800305
Buying clears will get you blacklisted depending on who you buy from. Also depends on what kind of person is buying the clear too. If they're some gilbuying shitter who literally couldn't clear to save their lives, they'll probably have their name spread and blacklisted by chunks of the server's end-game community.
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>>376800305
I play on Sarg and know several run seller groups and they absolutely do keep a blacklist.
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Friendly reminder that Yoshi-P finally acknowledged all the clamoring from the west about Butt Sliders with a "You really want it that badly, huh? Even if it stretches textures a bit? I'll talk to the art guys and see what we can do"


Hostile reminder that NOTHING WILL COME OF IT ENJOY YOUR FOREVER FLAT ASS
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>tfw coming back to the game after a year and a half and learning they added dyable versions of the Allagan gearsets
I think the basic allagan sets are the only raid gear I've liked on every job.
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>>376800636
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>>376800685
Because they're the only ones that were designed by Akihiko Yoshida.
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>>376799713

Shiva and the Sirens already exists you loser.
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>>376799830
>Actually doing the Relic before SB
>It's on the sand stage
I am an absolute madman.

At least it is easier now.
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Man I'm starting to think 2.5 GCD shitposters really have a point. Booting up XIV after 3 months of a trip to the WoWland everything feels like I'm trying to move underwater.
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>>376800636
>>376800713
I want thiccfags to leave
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>>376800748
>>376799713
>not the succ
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>>376795505
I cannot stand the EU community in this. I would sooner quit if the lag gets bad enough.
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>>376800980
2.5 GCD shitposters' point relies on assumption that you dont have to use 1-2 OGCDs each time during GCD
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>>376800980
>dodging stuff/doing mechanics while keep moving and spamming the same key over and over
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>>376801161
My main is MCH.
Even when you doubleweave everything feels fucking slow.
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>>376801039
Succubus posters are worse than au ra posters
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>>376789759
Final Fantasy:Pandaria
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>>376801223
>while keep moving and spamming the same key over and over
You might've got someone with that meme, but not the person who's learning to heal mythic Nighthold.
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>>376801378
>WoW invented medieval Asia
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>>376801480
You know China didn't really look like Mulan and Kung-fu Panda, right?
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>>376800980

You don't even notice it anymore after a few days back.
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>>376801325
Lizards are cute.
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>>376788842
I unironically want them to work in Brandelis and the Exnine Knights from World of Final Fantasy somehow. They put a lot of effort into making the cameos and crossovers and world converging in that game make sense, so it'd seem a waste not to use them elsewhere, and FFXIV would be a great place for it. Also, their designs are cool anyway.
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>>376801565
You know Othard isn't China, right?
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>>376801617
Yanxia basically looks like discolored Pandaria and that one temple dungeon looks like Mogu'shan Vaults. Whoever invented it it's hard not to draw the comparisons.
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>>376792757
>triangle with arms and legs
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>>376801617
You know Othard is a fictitious continent, right?
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>>376801681
Almost like they're drawing inspiration from real architecture... Wow...
>>376801838
That's my point, retard.
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>>376791217
I hope they use the FFX designs for the Magus Sisters whenever they add them, I always really liked the bug motif for them.
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>>376801910
if they ever use them. they have some many more iconic summons to go through before they even think about them
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>>376801978
They're running low on classic summons pretty fast, since they've used a good amount of them for Voidsent and other bosses.
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>>376790460
That's kinda how I feel. Seems everybody I come across is a 12 year old girl or dumbass fanboy. If i dare criticise anything about the game or a player I get shit on with no counter argument other than "DON'T PLAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT" as if I can't like a game and have legitimate criticisms about it too. Fuck the community so hard. Muh parsers are toooxic, muh harassment, muh I pay a sub so I don't have to get gud I can play how I want.
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I wonder how long it will take to get from 50-60 when I bot FATES
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>>376793039
>>376793110
Raubahn "Potato Peeler" Aldynn will take care of the Lala menace
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We had the exact same lack of information for HW around this time too and HW certainly didn't turn out to be a shit expansion. YoshiP just likes keeping everything a secret until right before release.

We're getting a very important live letter on the 22nd for information. That's where we're going to learn of the battle system changes.
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>>376802203
yes and
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>>376802203
>We had the exact same lack of information for HW around this time too and HW certainly didn't turn out to be a shit expansion.
Heavensward was pretty lacking at launch and the wait for 3.1 was fucking rough. It did make up for it later, but another early content drought will be really bad for the game.
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>>376802203
>and HW certainly didn't turn out to be a shit expansion
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>>376802203
>HW certainly didn't turn out to be a shit expansion
I get your point
but no, just no
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>>376802283
It wasn't lacking at all. It just didn't have the raids until 2 weeks, which was intentional. The wait for 3.1 was way too long though and 3.1 wasn't even that good. It was actually what killed the raiding community because gordias was overturned.
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>>376802203
>and HW certainly didn't turn out to be a shit expansion
I bet you weren't around for the period between 3.0 up to the launch of 3.2.
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>>376802486
You would be wrong. I've been around since ARR's beta.
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I'm dumb so can someone help me with a lore question?
What does the Archon mark mean/do?
And why did it fade from Yda's neck right after Shinryu died?
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>>376802653
the mark is used to keep the archons we see from aging properly. thats why after thancred came back and having lost his access to magic he started aging. The mark that was on lyse was a fake added by papalymo.
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>>376801978

They're burning through them quickly though.
>Ifrit
>Shiva
>Bahamut
>Leviathan
>Ramuh
>Odin
>Titan
>Alexander
Those are their most popular and most recurring summons.
And they went through all of them, except for Alexander, in the base game no less.
They blew their load too early.

They've also used, in one form or another.
>Diabolos
>Knights of the Round
>Garuda
>Carbuncle
>Siren
>Gilgamesh
>Phoenix
>Bismark
>Fenrir

And we already know that Yojimbo is going to be in SB.

The fuck else is left of any note?
Doomtrain?
The various "Generic" summons like Tonberry/Chocobo/Cactaur and so on?
Brothers? Anima? Eden?
They're already to the point that they need to scrape the bottom of the barrel with classic summons, and almost all of the popular ones have already been used.
There's a reason they're putting more focus on creating new ones, or converting non-summon bosses like the triad into Primals.
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>>376802460
HW is a hundred times better than the shit show that was ARR. It's pretty fucking sad when people have to motivate others to endure the 100 quests between ARR and HW. ARR needs to be pruned, badly. It's filled with padding; quests that serve no purpose.

HW wasn't perfect but it was the high point of XIV.
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>>376802203
>HW certainly didn't turn out to be a shit expansion
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>>376802521
Then you would know that, story aside, Heavensward is an atrocious expansion.
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>>376802653
>What does the Archon mark mean/do?
It's just a mark that signifies someone has reached the status of a Sage in their chosen area of study. It doesn't actually do anything. Lyse's faded because it was cast on her by Papalymo and thus tied to the existence of his aether.
>>376802708
The mark has no magical effect. Thancred was just casting normal glamour magics on himself.
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>>376802712
Except that Alexander sucked compared to Coil.
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>>376802784
ah ok. thanks theres a lot to keep track of, sometimes stuff bleeds over
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>>376802712
>muh le 100 quests
You do them once on the patch day and that's it.
What made ARR so much better is everything else. There was just more stuff coming out and it felt fresher and not just because it was new.

HW gave us all those dungeons that are exactly the same, a shit raid, another mediocre raid, Lords of Bullshit, Diashit, fucked crafting right up, didn't really improve on everything else in GS, even Hildibrand quests you memesters love so much were so much worse, shorter and lacking.

PotD was a decent experiment and 150-200 was really fun to do but even then they had to fuck it up with nonsense queue-in rules.
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>>376782548
>sets off the story for Stormblood through my Rhalgr summoning masterplan
>forgot if I die then I don't get to be in it
>don't even get Rhalgr but a gay ass dragon instead
Fuck.
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>>376802653
Far as I know the mark of the archons doesn't actually do anything, it's basically just a mark to signify their position and achievements within Sharlayan society.
The Yda you've met and hung out with the entire game wasn't actually the Yda from 1.0, but was instead her younger sister Lyse whom Papaylmo put the mark on with his magic because she wanted to pretend to be Yda. The mark faded as Papalymo's aether finally dispersed after Omega and Shinryu's fight. The rest of the Circle of Knowing knew it was Lyse but let her continue the farce since it made her feel better, and to you it was irrelevant so nobody clued you in
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>>376802653
It means that they were part of Louisoix's group before the Calamity and that they are masters in their field. Lyse's faded because Papalymo casted a fake one on her so she could pretend she's Yda (Even though everyone knew from the start she wasn't Yda, so the whole endeavour was pointless).
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>>376802864
>PotD was a decent experiment and 150-200 was really fun to do but even then they had to fuck it up with nonsense queue-in rules.

I really hope in SB they just change this so that you can queue up for them with a pug, or in the very least can take a four man group and just jump right in without that 51-100 step beforehand.
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>>376802864
You're in the super minority to think that ARR was better. Most agree that HW was an improvement in nearly every area and I would agree. The only thing I really liked about ARR was Coil and Bard not having minuet bullshit.
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>>376802867
Ala mhigos truly are the niggers of FFXIV. Other than Raubahn, every single time they appear in the story it's non-stop chimpouts and "I AM A GENIUS" moments.
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>>376802708
When will you dolts stop spreading the silly theory that the archons halt their own aging? It's clear from pic related that its a christmas cake joke about Y'shtolas insecurities. If you've done the HW hildibrand quest you'd know that time magic specifically to halt/reverse aging is an incredibly sought after magic that you don't just use on a whim. It makes no sense for a bunch of goody-two shoes like the scions to be so vain as to stop their own aging either.

The mark is just the equivalent of a graduation insignia for people studying in sharlayan, Lyse's was a fake casted by Papalymo to help disguise her as Yda as she was never a student there (as if her punching things as a solution for everything personality wasn't enough of a tell).
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>>376802935
>The Yda you've met and hung out with the entire game wasn't actually the Yda from 1.0

This part is still up in this air, I thought.
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>>376803061
It's not up in the air. She outright says that she died before the calamity happened.

Unless Square goes full retard again and brings her because for a WHAT A TWIST!!!! moment, like they're gonna do with Papalymo. Please look forward to it.
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>>376802708
>>376802784
>>376802935
>>376802967
Got it, thank you!
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>>376803061
Oh? I thought the timing matched up to her dying in Ala Mhigo some time in the last 5-6 years. Can't say I'm confident on the matter, I did kinda breeze through that part of the story.
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>>376803050
>When will you dolts stop spreading the silly theory that the archons halt their own aging?
It's not a theory, it was straight out fucking confirmed by Koji at a panel. You can even see Thancred visibly age when he loses his magic.
>It makes no sense for a bunch of goody-two shoes like the scions to be so vain as to stop their own aging either.
You think that just because someone is smart that they can't be vain? You posted fucking proof that Y'shtola is vain.
>If you've done the HW hildibrand quest you'd know that time magic specifically to halt/reverse aging is an incredibly sought after magic that you don't just use on a whim.
Thancred wasn't using time magic. He was using glamour magic. As for Y'shtola, if you'd played 1.0 you would know that she actually does have genuine time magic abilities.
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>>376803050
>(as if her punching things as a solution for everything personality wasn't enough of a tell

This is why she was the only Scion I ever actually liked until Moenbryda showed up and had the audacity to have a personality that wasn't awful.
Even if Yda didn't do much of fucking anything, she at least went against the grain when it came to the rest of them.
She was also one of the few to ever apologize for sending you out on fucking fetch errands beneath your station (But please do them anyway)
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>>376803004
I think your misinterpreting his argument.

HW was ARR with a bit more polish.
But ARR shined so much brighter because it was all new. Now we're 4 years down the track and absolutely nothing has changed. Absolutely fucking nothing. And Stormblood is going to be just more of the same.
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>>376803061
>>376803154
>>376803185
Yda in 1.0 was mostly seen in Echo visions that took place 10 years prior. The Yda seen the most in 1.0 was the real Yda. Outside of Echo visions though, it was Lyse.
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>>376803050
Thancred looks so different now cos he can no longer use magic and thus can't glamour his appearance to look younger.
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Will FFXIV survive the end of Stormblood if everything remains the same?
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>>376802203
It's most likely the highly iterative process of development and SE's gross PR incompetence behind the complete lack of marketing. There's the upcoming media tour, but that's just going to be a round of hands-on previews and that's not how you market an MMO expansion.

To be honest it's nigh inexcusable to promise a sizeable combat system change and say next to nothing about it before there's less than a month to go until early access. HW was basically just more content, and also it teased the new jobs more than they teased these 2.

I'll probably enjoy SB but my hype level's zero. I just don't have enough information to be hyped about anything. New /gpose isn't going to get me hyped about an expac.
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>>376803050
>>When will you dolts stop spreading the silly theory that the archons halt their own aging?
>Outright confirmed by Yoshi that they do.

Dumb nigger.
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>>376803154

Right.
Yda died before the Calamity happened.
1.0 also happened before the Calamity happened.
There's a pretty lengthy period of time "Before the Calamity".

But I don't recall anything that outright confirmed the Yda from 1.0 was the real Yda and not Lyse playing pretend.
The game's story doesn't move in real time, so it's hard to sink it up and no real way to confirm at the moment.
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>>376787703
As long as Contagion is tied to the Green Burd, there wouldn't be a reason to use whatever new Egi they create.

Contagion'd Tri-Diaster cast whilst under the effect of Raging Strikes and Dreadwyrm Trance is just too much DPS too ever bother summoning another pet.
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>>376803219
>straight out fucking confirmed by Koji at a panel
post the source then

>>376803283
>Thancred looks so different now cos he can no longer use magic
This is just hollywood aging for narrative convenience. They used the HW transition as an opportunity to give him an updated model, but if you know how fast and loose people are with ages in fiction, you'd know even his current appearance can be rationalized as anything between 25 and 50.
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>>376803050
They use advanced glamour and not time magic, you dipshit.
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>>376803274
Yes, welcome to video games.
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>>376803417
They'll always have the FFtards sucking up everything they do as if it's the best thing ever.
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>>376803274
It's an MMORPG. It's never going to suddenly become a different game. That's now how things work.
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>>376803501
Lyse says that "Yda died six years ago", which means that she was playing pretend during 1.0 as well.
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>>376803584
The transaction from FFXIV 1.0 to ARR is a different game.
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>>376803501
>Yda died before the Calamity happened.
They tell you that Yda died 6 years ago. 1.0 and the Calamity were 5 years ago.

>>376803521
>post the source then
Pretty sure it's this panel but I'm not going to watch all of it for you to confirm. You're the only god damn idiot who doesn't realize this fact that's been confirmed several times by the devs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_kVS46AfIs

>This is just hollywood aging for narrative convenience.
No it isn't, you fucking moron. Beforehand, Thancred looked exactly the same as he did in 1.0 when he was 17. After he comes back, Hilda comments that he looks old and he gets fucking upset over it.
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>>376803741
That only happened because 1.0 completely bombed and the whole game needed to be remade from the ground up to have a chance of success.
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>>376803417
>Will FFXIV survive the end of Stormblood if everything remains the same?

Here's how MMO's work.

If the developer has a formula that works, they'll keep doing it until sub numbers start to drop.
Once sub-numbers start to drop, they try new things until the numbers improve or in the very least stabilize.
And then they go back to predictable and safe until the process repeats.

No (Smart) MMO developer fixes what isn't broken. If it continues to generate money, they have nothing driving them to change and innovate.
The other thing they do is wait for competition to take risks and see how it works out for them.

Do you know why ARR kept doing new things?
Because WoW, the only genuine competitor for FFXIV in the pay to play market, was trying new things and gaining some of it's popularity back during the first half of Warlord's of Draenor.
What is WoW doing now? Losing subs and going stagnant because Legion somehow manages to suck worse than Draenor did.


If FFXIV stagnates, it's because people stay subscribed, and because the competition is also stagnating.
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>>376803417
Off the back of mogstation sales probably. There are too-many idiots in the world with too-much money.
But I sure as fuck wont be playing.

If they hired on a couple more staff, contracted Akihiko Yoshida to do armor designs instead of whatever intern they have scribbling them now, and aimed to produce more activities to do at endgame than just "tomegrind" or "raid" (maybe adding one more dungeon and some new GATEs with each patch) that would be enough for me. But every patch we get less and less, and they can't even be bothered adding simple shit like more character-customisation options anymore. I have no faith in Stormblood, and I have no faith in Square Enix.
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>>376803827
That is true, but that doesn't disprove the point that "MMOs never change."

Relaunches in general became more popular since. Granted, it's only when they bomb, yeah, which is kind of sad that it must come to that before devs attempt to innovate.
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>>376803947

You can thank Final Fantasy XV for that.

Rather than funnel FFXIV's profits back into FFXIV, they threw it at FFXV instead.
And that's why HW was so fucking barebones.
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>>376803521
stop being a moron
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>>376803947
Honestly I have some faith in the XIV team, it's SE that's probably choking the lifeblood out of them. Primarily because of stuff like >>376804024 said, shit profit allocation and the like.

SE probably doesn't give a shit about XIV outside of expansions sales.
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>>376803926
>What is WoW doing now?
Selling 10m expansion copies for a 12 year old game while still maintaining millions of subs.
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>>376799819
Objectively correct
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How do we fix raiding in XIV?
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>>376804375
play a different game
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>>376803584
No one is asking for a different game. We just want more things to do at endgame. Right now raiding is basically impenetrable if you have a wonky schedule because they're an environment where 1 idiot can (and will) cause your party to wipe, and the game has no way of preventing said idiots from joining your learning/clear party; they need to implement ping, SSS, and phase-clear checks at the very least. And if you can't raid, hope you enjoy farming the same 2 dungeons over and over.
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>>376803926
>What is WoW doing now? Losing subs and going stagnant because Legion somehow manages to suck worse than Draenor did.
Everything you said makes sense except this line because Legion is consistently more successful and stable than Draenor and your personal opinion about MUH AP and MUH LEGENDARIES (both issues that have been fixed to some extent since) doesn't fucking change that Legion has a fuckload more good content than Draenor ever did.
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>>376802867
You should have thought, about what i am willing to do, in order to,
get
the job
done
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>>376803746
I skimmed it, there's nothing there. They talk about Thancred at 38:00 and the circle of knowing at 49:00'ish but nothing about age. At this point I suspect it's just a broken telephone message you guys are parroting to each other. You guys are the delusional ones for not realizing how uncharacteristic it would be for the scions to be so image obsessed. You'd really think people trying to save the world are going to be that petty and vain?
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>>376804690
>You guys are the delusional ones for not realizing how uncharacteristic it would be for the scions to be so image obsessed
YOU LITERALLY FUCKING POSTED THE Y'SHTOLA MINION THAT CONFIRMS SHE IS A VAIN BITCH
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>>376804746
Stop responding.
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>>376803274
>absolutely nothing has changed. Absolutely fucking nothing. And Stormblood is going to be just more of the same.
I don't see how anyone is surprised by this.
That doesn't make it 'okay', or excuse XIV's lack of innovation. But the vast majority of games, and especially MMOs, stick to 'what works' once they figure out what does. The last thing they want to do is rip the carpet out from everyone, introduce an entirely new way of going about things, and have it be universally hated (ala Star Wars Galaxies). That kills games faster than the potential slow death of not changing.

We'll get small changes and improvements over time. But XIV will probably follow XI's route, and countless other games, by sticking to the same thing (what they consider 'works). Only changing if something catastrophic happens to their subscription numbers, or if a follow up FF MMO is in production, making them basically go "Eh, fuck it."
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>>376804746
you invalidate our point by sounding like a petulant child. stop.
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>>376804425
>tfw japs are able to have a successful pug community because they don't have 50 different snowflakes trying to come up with their on unique strat and they actually feel shame if they fuck up and ruin shit for others so they practice each specific part of the fight until they can confidently do it without fucking up then move on to the next

>meanwhile on NA/EU
>MY STRAT NOT YOURS
>IS THIS A CLEAR GROUP? FIRST TIME HERE CARRY ME
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>>376804690
>You'd really think people trying to save the world are going to be that petty and vain?
Since the Scions don't save the world, I'm going to say yes.
We save the world. They sit around on their asses 'praying for our safe return'.

A fucking dog could do their job.
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>>376804879
... i want the scions to get a dog so i can at least enjoy visiting them
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>>376804690
>You'd really think people trying to save the world are going to be that petty and vain?
What the fuck makes you think that someone being a good guy means they have to have a perfect personality? Y'shtola pretends to be 23, that's 100% canon and was posted earlier in the thread. Thancred has shown to be a womanizer, and currently uses his eyepatch to look cool so he can pick up women more easily. We have also seen Thancred sit at the same physical appearance for 15 years until he suddenly lost his magic and immediately aged so much that another character commented on how old he looked.
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>>376804965
I think that's what Tataru is meant to be.
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>>376804846
It's not even just a strat thing. Most NA players just consider other pugs disposable since they'll never see them again, so they're more than happy to slack and refuse to adapt when a more pug-friendly strat comes up anyways.
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>>376805016
your right. im fine with this.
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>>376804965
He'd be dead after two patches.
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>>376804746

Not that other Anon but...
So what?
That minion description is obviously just a fun joke. Most of them are. I mean, I highly doubt my wolf pupper is a Garlean sleeper agent, or that Tataru actually put in an order for dozens of small mammets in her likeness.
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>>376804425
Half the problem is the community. They want things to do but don't actually want to do them.

Dungeons are a good example. Peeps cry about hallways, but the very fact of the matter is if they make large sprawling dungeons the community will find the fastest way through and berate anyone who dares to explore. You only need to look at Brayflox, AV, and Totorak to see this.

We won't get harder dungeons either because the casual pissbabies that cry will want them nerfed so they can netflix while they do them.

Another example is Diadem. Both times it came out it dared to add a third way to gear up and look how many pissbabies bitched about it. How DARE they make a way to get raid level gear without raiding. How DARE they make weapons on par with raids AND relics even if they are hard to get.

They actually added a ton of attractions during HW but all but two of them died. If PotD didn't offer leveling it would have died too.

Really, what can the Devs do at this point? The community laid this bed, and have lied in it for a long time now
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>>376805040
>that Tataru actually put in an order for dozens of small mammets in her likeness.
You clearly haven't spoken to Tataru between cutscenes then.
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>>376805040
Of course it's a joke, but it's still what she claims her age to be. It even says so in the lore book. But if she were actually 23, the Echo visions in 1.0 would have her at 8 years old.
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>>376804965
I was more invested in the other NPC parties that hung out at the base and moved around or went on missions between patches.
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>>376804375
>How do we fix raiding in XIV?
Remove the ability to outgear content with tomestones.
If you want to get second best gear while the tier is active, you need to run harder dungeons or extreme primals. This opens up ways to reward people for doing harder dungeons and primals that isn't just oh look another irrelevant weapon and gearset. Also enables Diadem-like content to give non-shit rewards. Also makes 24-man raids not irrelevant. Use tomestones for catch up shortly before the next tier or into the next tier. Keep all the extreme primals in an expansion relevant by constantly uptuning them and their rewards. Basically if you can loot a cool neck piece from Ravana, it should remain cool throughout the expansion, even if you need to constantly upgrade it by looting an upgrade item from Sophia or something.

Having gave players this motivation to do content that isn't one expert roulette a day, you can now proceed to fix raids themselves. Instead of making fights that are like five different fights baked together into one boss like Nael or Brute Justice, make more fights and focus them around 1-3 central mechanics that get progressively harder as the fight develops. This is how literally every fight in Final Coil was done and it was fucking great. Don't feel too bad about making bosses not important to storylines just souped up recolors as long as they're cool enough to fight. Don't forget to make the first fight of the tier sufficiently unchallenging like A9S so that people just entering raiding can kill something soon and feel good about themselves. Nothing demotivates people as much as the very first fight walling them off. This won't be a problem like in Creator because you should have more bosses than 4.

Now that you've done all that you need to fix it for people who "raid for story". This is quite easy - instead of releasing story mode first and savage mode after, release savage mode first and story mode after. Preferably in a catchup patch.
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>>376805087
Hoary Boulder and the bunch. i cant wait to see them continue adventuring. Im so glad they all made it through HW
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>>376805073
>They actually added a ton of attractions during HW but all but two of them died.
Let us be honest here. Lords of Verminion is shit and always has been that way.
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>>376804690
Y'shtola is vain as fuck. Like, that's common knowledge. She uses magic like Thancred did to look young forever and is known to be a shoe fanatic
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>>376805256
What would rape by Y'shtola be like?
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>>376805136
I'm a little surprised they implemented the squadrons with grand companies instead of having them be your personal squad with the scions. It would make more sense given you have virtually nothing to do with the military or government of any of the city-states except the one you can't join.
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So how likely are they to add Blitzball?
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>>376805256
She's also killing herself because she refuses to accept being blind.
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>>376805073
I really hope you're not trying to defend Diadem's design.
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>>376804375
Remove story mode

Return to SCoB model (savage for prestige)

Remove 24-man raids

Add 4 new bosses to the 8-man raid
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new player here, should I combine cooldowns and use grenado shot for 3+ targets?
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>>376805102
I saw the length and thought it would be stupid, but this makes sense and fits with their current workload and release cycle. It is a shame they will keep tomestones.

>>376805136
Personally I liked the Crystal Braves a lot, I really hope Alianne and Riol show up some more.

>>376805320
If they do it will suck, and that's the rub of it.
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>>376805317
its probably because the side team has a story for them written well. in advance. but yeah recruiting members for the scions and having them would be awesome.
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>>376803501
1.0 happened in 1572, aka 5 years ago. The botched operation real Yda died in was 1571, aka 6 years ago
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>>376805256

The shoe fanatic thing doesn't contribute to her being vain. It just means she's a female.
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>>376805102
>Instead of making fights that are like five different fights baked together into one boss like Nael or Brute Justice, make more fights and focus them around 1-3 central mechanics that get progressively harder as the fight develops.
This. I said it once and I will say it again: Alexander Savage raids are more like checklists than fights. So many pointless mechanics that either shouldn't be there or expanded upon over others.
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>>376805482
nice edge you got there bro,
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>>376805505
And coil wasn't?
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>>376805335
It was a third avenue for getting endgame gear, effectively creating three methods of gearing up: skill, grinding, and rng. Too bad the former two refuse to accept anything other than their path as being the only way to gear levels, and often times they'll fight against each other.
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>>376805482
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>>376805102
I actually do want the 300 tome cap back.
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>>376805073
I really liked the idea of Diadem on paper, and wish it succeeded. I hope Eureka will be better and not just a repeat with the NMs being pulled early like the hunts.
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>>376805662
Point cap won't make gearing up more satisfying. Doing something of average challenge and getting a good gearpiece through RNG feels better. Tomestones should be used only to mitigate RNG or for catchup. Otherwise it basically feels like busywork and not a game. Toil for 20 minutes with 3 retards for your 90 daily tomestone wage. Snore.
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>>376805694
Yeah I am hoping Eureka will be decent. I want them to make Diadem or something like Diadem work, I really do.
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>>376805513

How was that edgy?

It's a fucking fact of life that the overwhelming majority of women love boots and shoes. Women drool over a pair of cute pumps or sexy boots the same way men do when a well maintained classic sports car rolls up next to them at a red light.
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>>376791748
> Hyurs
> Not Elezen
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>>376805421
I have to get me a copy of this book one day.
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>>376805073
>They actually added a ton of attractions during HW but all but two of them died.
In fairness, that had more to do with them being shit than people not wanting something different.

They can't just throw anything out and then go "WELL I THOUGHT YOU WANTED SOMETHING NEW" if it turns out said new thing has absolutely no purpose and is even less fun than what we've already got.
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>>376805763
>Doing something of average challenge and getting a good gearpiece through RNG feels better
Then fuck off to WoW, RNG is trash. Getting tokens towards a specific piece that you actually want is infinitely better.
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>>376805840
Now this is what a real wowfugee looks like.
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>>376805842
It's pretty damn good if you're a lorefag, can recommend.

The timeline thing that that's a snapshot of is 7 pages long and pretty detailed. Very comfy book to cosy up with at nights.
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>>376805842
its pretty fuckin legit. there are some unfortunate typos and some fonts and nearly illegible which shows little editing was involved but its still awesome.
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>>376805910
Or the typical /vg/tard
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>>376804746
>>376805013
>>376805256
>Y'shtola pretends to be 23, that's 100% canon and was posted earlier in the thread
Yeah because its played as a joke you ninny, it's supposed to be cute in an endearing way. Have you forgotten this is a japanese game? You know, the thing where you never ask a woman her age or you're in for a world of hurt.

She may lie about it in conversation, but she's not actually vain enough to pretend to look the part - key difference.

>What the fuck makes you think that someone being a good guy means they have to have a perfect personality?

Who said anything about having a perfect personality? Now on that note its not like XIV is the pinnacle of storytelling either, so I don't know why you seem to have so much faith in the lore team putting that much effort into making the scions nuanced characters.

Actually being vain (and not just insecure like yshtola) would be a very odd choice of a flaw to coincidentally give every scion. I don't know why you people defend this theory so much, is it someone's pet?
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>>376805893
Heh, casual.
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>>376805840
You can always play WAR or DRK as a gimped DPS OT.
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>>376805763
It drastically lowers how fast people gear with tomes at the start of a tier.

Also the RNG method is shit becase they used aetherial gear as a base. You can RNG stats way above anything else and at that point it's the only method to gear and others die.
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Fuck these offtanks who can't keep themselves 2nd in the aggrolist. Stop playing tanks if you don't know how to not wipe the group
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>>376805951
>being this butthurt
I don't know why you defend your theories so much. Is it your pet?
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>>376805951
>Actually being vain (and not just insecure like yshtola) would be a very odd choice of a flaw to coincidentally give every scion
It's not given to every Scion. Just Y'shtola and Thancred. It was believed that it applied to Yda too, but it turned out she was just secretly her younger sister.
>Yeah because its played as a joke you ninny, it's supposed to be cute in an endearing way.
It's still the actual fucking lore. Being used for comedy doesn't change that. She still pretends to be 23.
>I don't know why you people defend this theory so much, is it someone's pet?
Because it was flat out said by Koji. It's fact. Hunt through lore panel videos yourself if you need proof. The rest of us have already seen it and aren't going to hunt down the exact moment it was said. Hell, you can even fucking ask on the OF and Anonymoose will post the exact quote.
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>>376806021
Why does it matter? As long as they provoke when the MT dies or needs to swap, then why does it matter if the OT isn't second in the aggro list?
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Why is Y'Shtola so purrfect?
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>>376806013
I don't mean RNG stats. I mean RNG drops.
I just want dungeon loot to matter at all.
Not getting the thing you want to drop can be frustrating but it drives people to do content and slows down raid clearing just as effectively.

Buying whatever you want with your wage badges is BORING precisely because every tier you know 100% what to expect.
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>>376805951
>Actually being vain (and not just insecure like yshtola) would be a very odd choice of a flaw to coincidentally give every scion
But it's not every Scion. It's just Y'shtola. Thancred uses his glamours to get bitches. Yda was impersonating someone, Papylymo and Urianger don't give a shit, and the latter even reverted to his previous look.
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>>376803741
Touche
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>>376806152
because youre a furry
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>>376806152
Loonh is better
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>>376806152
Because she's the designated waifu character of this game
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>>376788350

Imagine being this poor.
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>>376806190
>Half of people that are supposed to be "good guys" hide their identities for one reason or another
>Their leader is a dumb bimbo that can't do shit herself
>You don't have a choice but to follow their carrot because they say that bad shit will happen otherwise
>This is supposed to be a good story
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>>376806205

I'm really not. Her face minus the ears would still be perfection.
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>>376806023
Just simple inference from what the game presents you, yours is practically insane by comparison.
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>>376806128
I remember it mattering back before you could faceroll Twintania. Were there any other bosses that had mechanics that specifically targeted the person who is 2nd in aggro?
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>>376806417
No.
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>>376806375
its ok if you are. i like her too
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>>376806393
>Just simple inference from what the game presents you
You mean how Thancred ages 15 years within a month and vocalizes that he's upset that he doesn't look young anymore?
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>>376806089
>She still pretends to be 23
She tells people she's 23 when asked her age, she doesn't actually use glamour or time magic to make herself actually 23.

If you don't realize the difference between the two and don't get that this is just a christmas cake trope (she's the waifu character after all), there's no helping you.
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>>376806417
>Were there any other bosses that had mechanics that specifically targeted the person who is 2nd in aggro?
No, they make them target the tank who's 2nd in aggro now, not just another person, unless there's no 2nd tank.
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>join a normie FC
>constant emoticons in chat
>never use them
>get called mean and rude
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>>376806513
Do they even do content? Isn't it just talking about XI and giving bad advice to each other?
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>>376806471
>she doesn't actually use glamour or time magic to make herself actually 23.
The lore book says the hands of time are forever stopped at 23 for her. And in 1.0, she literally uses fucking time magic. Koji himself says that she used magic to keep looking young. You're in some serious fucking denial.
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>>376806360
>Their leader is a dumb bimbo that can't do shit herself
The Calamity fucked her up pretty badly. She used to be a stone cold take charge bitch who was trying to use the beast primals against Garlemald, but then Louisiox died and it all went to hell.

As it stands, she was the heart of the team, and handled all the PR and stuff. Even the GCs looked up to her.
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>>376805421
>>376805842
what book?
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>>376806513
that's what you get for playing with germans
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>>376806513
>join /v/ LS
>people "ironically" using emoticons
>they start making posts that look like they came straight out of esfores when I tell them to knock it off
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>>376806571
>still responding to that fucking moron after more than an hour
Come on.
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>>376806571
>The lore book says the hands of time are forever stopped at 23 for her
>what is a metaphor
Jesus christ
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>>376806668
Thread's dying. It doesn't matter anymore
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>>376806638
the official lore book.
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>>376806670
She has actual, literal time magic. F'lhaminn has visibly aged in those 15 years, and Y'shtola hasn't.
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>>376806513
>log in for the first time in weeks
>some normie FC sends you a tell "Hey wanna join our FC =))) We're a chill family of likeminded peeps XD"
>blacklist the teller

Bitch would a Savage raider with Tamer of Undying Flame on want to join your normie shit FC like seriously at least look at people you're trying to invite.
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>>376806643
Doing anything with /v/ was your first mistake. It's usually a contest of who can seem like they're from /v/ the most. Really vile.
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>>376806707
oh. nice.
where do you get it online?
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>>376806608
Minfilia was the manager/coordinator, someone's gotta keep tabs on the operation's financial sources, what everyone is doing and when they should be done with whatever to let others base their actions on that without specifically having to go find the other party, directing labor, who to reach out to as new hires, etc etc

Basically her and Tataru handle all the boring shit that isn't adventuring, so nobody cares about it and it doesn't really come up what she really does.
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>>376806810
SE store, but it sells out fast. Not sure if it's in stock.
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>>376806458
The first is just narrative convenience, you should know as well as I that in fiction, its easy to rationalize any adult looking person as 'young' (until they hit 60 and then grow old all at once). I've never heard the latter - and along with this mythical koji confirmation I doubt anyone is going to be able to produce it.

If they really existed, you'd think there be a booming market for glamours or time magicks in ul'dah or something where you find tons of vain socialites.
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>>376806789
Good call anon. "Family" is the single reddest red flag possible
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>>376806859
I mean a digital copy, PDf or whatever.
Don't care if legit or not.

Can't really ship to EU countries from SE store, so..
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>>376806128
If only they'd provoke
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{warrior}{master}{race}
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>>376806717
That's just asian/anime aging, you look like a generic 'adult' from 20 to 60, and then you become an old person all at once. It goes double for games because you have to use one character model for everything - so you have to have a certain flexibility with how you interpret their age from their looks.

It's not like there aren't irl teenagers that look middle aged, and middle aged people that look like teenagers. Even post-HW grizzled thancred is well within that spectrum.
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>>376806861
>you'd think there be a booming market for glamours
There is. There's even a famous Ishgardian noble known by all the guildmasters who deals in glamours. You might have seen him before. Rowena also sells glamour items.
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>>376806865
FCs are next to pointless in this game because SE keeps pushing all the content you can just do by queuing from Duty Finder and banding together into companies gives you no serious advantages over just having a linkshell for your raid team.

Well, unless it's A4S and you want Back on Your Feet.
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>>376806901
Wat? There's an EU version of the SE store (shipping prices are ridiculous though)
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>>376806789
> Bitch would a Savage raider with Tamer of Undying Flame on want to join your normie shit FC
You sounds like a really fun guy.
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>>376807007
I don't know why you would think at I'm generally unpleasant to be around.

Oh, you were doing like a thing
oh
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>>376806971
> play FFXIV
> can only see retail price
> gotta log in
> does not accept my in game account

fuck this.
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>>376806789
>giving a shit about raiding status after Creator Savage
>>
>Sohm al Hard
>be WAR, have WHM, MNK and BRD
>EHM spams holy and mobs go down in no time
>after the last mob before the first boss, WHM asks BRD if they could play foes
>leaves after 30 seconds with BRD not answering
>says "really annoying at this lvl still having ppl learning their jobs :("
Look, as a BRD main myself I agree that they should have put on foes, but c'mon.
>>
>>376807118
Have you tried logging in recently? Anyone who's anybody are waiting for Stomblood and only total plebs are now playing it. I was gonna level an alt job or two just to while away the time but dungeons are worse than they've ever been.
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>>376807216
The WHM left, to make that clear. No patience to get an answer or see if the BRD actually play foes (which they then did). Never mind that those mobs died quick enough for a PUG run.
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>>376807216
>enabling shitters
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>>376806963
Ah yes, the mystical art of hairdressing.
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>>376807391
>changing hair color, eye color, and adding tattoos in an instant is just hairdressing
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>>376807354
see
>>376807337
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>>376807354
There is refusing to enable shitters and then there is going full nuclear and screwing over everyone else.
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>>376806963
Is that a motherfucking JoJo reference?
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>>376806963
>can carve scars in your face but tanning or changing eye color is too much
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>>376806963
I'm amazed they still haven't added the option to paint your character's nails, give them chest-hair, and other basic texture-swap customisation options.
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>>376807435
Don't forget he also performs plastic surgery to rearrange scars.
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>>376807220
>Have you tried logging in recently?
Yes but I can't really comment. I jumped from Aether to Chaos and am still getting used to the environment.
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>>376806960
Yshtola and Thancred both use glamour magic to alter their appearance. It's why Thancred went from fuccboi to old and grizzled once he became unable to use magic.
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>>376807568
You can change your character nails with claws of the beast.
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>>376807608
> I jumped from Aether to Chaos
I'm so sorry.
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>>376807568
Kinda wish Miqo'te had the option to extend the face stripes to their bodies
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>>376807669
Even the French are more skilled than ERPers.
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>>376807435
Obviously there are some things in the game where you play fast and loose with the laws of physics for narrative convenience.

Just because magic exists doesn't mean EVERY non realistic thing is accomplished by magic. I mean c'mon this should be easy to tell.
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>>376807669
A dozen frogs is preferable to being on the same DC as Balmung.
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>>376806513
>>376806643
Shit like this is why you start your own small FC with just friends.
Joining one with people you don't know is just asking for trouble.
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>>376807713
>>376807727
Really not.
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>>376807435
He can't change your eye or skin color.
Pay for dem fantasia goy.
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>>376807568
>expecting anything like that from devs who are too scared to even go from 1-4 premade faces to 1-5
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ8yAEkUUgI

Job quests is the most underrated thing from FFXIV
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>>376807764
t. Balmung player
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>>376806608
No but see she didn't flip around like a spaz in cutscenes so she's clearly not as useful as the oh-so necessary Y'shtola or Thancred.
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>>376807727
>A dozen frogs is preferable to being on the same DC as Balmung.
It really fucking isn't.

t.subjected to frogs and nazis because friends refuse to leave.
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>>376807812
I like job quests. They are something to look forward to whenever I level something.
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>>376807764
Really yes.

>Do dungeon roulette as DRK
>Two cat shitters with RP tag
>They roleplay as girlfriend and boyfriend and they spend half the dungeon performing actions on eachother
>One of them is a ninja who's using the LB on trash
>The other one's a healer who keeps congratulating him over every action instead of healing me
>Tell them to knock it off
>"Don't listen to him, sweetie, he's only using that big sword because he's compensating for something."
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>>376807812
>Job quests is the most underrated thing from FFXIV
They're all awful because they don't challenge your job knowledge or teach you anything about how to use your class, they're all just random filler with cutscenes that range from mildly entertaining to god awful boring.

Quests to learn abilities of your jobs are a great thing but they aren't even about that anymore, none of HW quests have ANYTHING to do with skills you get from them.
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>>376808045
I'd have eaten the penalty.
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>>376807812
>Tfw nothing will ever top the level 50 DRK job quest

What's even the point of paying attention to the stories after that. It cannot be topped.
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>>376808147
Wasn't there a NPC who had this hair?
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>>376808045
But how often do you run into that?

The worst ERPers are probably worse than the French, but the French are a fucking plague.
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>>376808134
>notice all the tired and paranoid reactions from WoL during Heavensward
>realize Fray will be back for Stormblood
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>>376808045
>Running into a team of terrible people once outweighs saluts chronically being unable to complete content
XIV has some shit parts about it but the worst of it are the people that play it in the West.
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>>376808176
Yes, the cat in 3.5 MSQ.
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>>376808192
I run into it more often than not. Cats and lizards in slut glamour doing the bare minimum in dungeons because they don't want to play the game (Which makes me wonder why they even do dailies at all), duo couples in who fellate eachother constantly or lag behind because they just HAVE to take a photo together near some cool-looking place in the dungeon, ex-couples who run into eachother and either throw a shitfit or one leaves instantly, people with awful "erotic" macros or subhumans who outright proposition me for sex because my character turns them on. I'd rather deal with retarded frogs who can't play than this, because they're on the same skill level but at least I can't understand them.
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