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What the fuck happened to the Beat 'Em Up genre?

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What the fuck happened to the Beat 'Em Up genre?
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>urban reign
>death by degrees
>oni
>yakuza series

Which others would you recommend me /v/?
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>>376768739
Bareback Street
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>>376768739
God Hand
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>>376767298
What game is this?
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>>376767298
It lives as Dynasty Warrior
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I dont know why they stopped making 2d beat em ups. Especially after the success of castle crashers.
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Shooters ended the genre.

Final Fight
Streets of Rage
Dynamite & Virtua Cop

Plenty of a Hack & Slash
Golden Axe, Dragons Crown, Swords and Darkness.
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>>376769069
Fighting force
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Too expensive to make for what they are. They're still being made by smaller dev teams, but the quality tends to be shoddy.
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THE BOUNCER
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>>376769014
Forgot about that one.

Beat Down Fists of vengeance as well
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>>376769328
>Swords and Darkness
Holy shit, that game is ass.
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>>376767298
They got replaced by hack n slash games.
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>>376769014
God Hand is proof a developer could make an incredibly fun 3D beat 'em up today if they tried.
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>>376767298
>Fighting Force
my man
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How is that Retro City Rampage remake game on Steam? Playable on keyboard? Looked like it added a bit of the Dungeon Fighter Online spammyness too.
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>>376770564
That not a beat 'em up. Play Streets of rage Remake.
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>>376770831
Whoops, I meant River City Ransom Underground
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>>376767298
Still one of my childhood favorites. Smasher was my main because his attacks were the bloodiest.
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>>376769165
Apparently you've never heard of Dragon's Crown.
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>>376770914
Oh, River City Underground is great, Highly recommend it. The guys behind it put a lot of effort into it. Play it with another person or 3 other people if you can.
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>>376767298

The Z axis.
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>>376771147
I remember playing this game on some sort of Game pack disc. Really fun. I don't know if the squeal is good though.
>>376771398
Dragon's crown was truly a blessing. Too bad there isn't any DLC or free updates.
>>376771398
2D Beat 'em ups are kind of more Niche genre now, like how Shmups/Bullet hell games.
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>>376769435
beat down fists of vengeance was my babe
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>Still have my copy of Fighting Force 64
>Nobody to play coop with anymore

It hurts...
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Can anyone recommend me games similiar to beat down: Fists of vengeance please?
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>>376771940
It is funny how that one and Urban Reigns got so much hate from reviewers, at least around here
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>>376772532
Yeah I just looked it up and it has so many negative reviews and low ratings but the game was actually so good and it aged extremely well because I even played it like a year ago. I really wonder why.
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>>376772358
I guess Urban Reigns is the spiritual sucessor to that, I will find me an iso of Death by Degrees as well

Jesus, just beat yakuza 0 and 1 and now I am finding even more quality beat em ups, truly a joy
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>>376772358
>>376772532
>>376772637
>>376771940
>>376769435
Never tried Beat down. Going to try it out now.
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>>376772887

Good! I'd recommend going through your first playthrough with Gene
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Anarchy Reigns is pretty good and has that Platinum cuhrazy feel
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>>376772953
>>376772887
I mean Raven sorry
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>>376772851
Is Urban Reigns open world?
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>>376772953
>>376773049
>Gene
Oh shit I thought for a second it had Gene from God hand.
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>>376773139
I have no idea
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>>376773226
Haha nah I got confused between Gene from God hand and Raven. Havent played both in a while, might play beatdown again real soon
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>>376772358
Just watched some gameplay videos. Never heard of this game before tonight, but it actually looks pretty dope. Will have to give it a try.
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>>376773521
Urban Reigns looks even better, everything is so Tekken looking, even the effects and some moves
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>>376773686
Urban Reign isnt open world though. Beatdown also has a lot of cool mechanics like being able to recruit the gangsters that you beat up and then have them fight on your side.
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Wouldn't the spectacle fighters/brawlers/whatever, or just "DMC/GoW clones" genre qualify as beat 'em ups?
Same principle really, just more 'varied' controls I guess you could say.
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>>376773802
Beatdown always felt like a Yakuza knockoff to me
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How do people in this thread feel about hack and slash, "cuhrayzee" action games, and musou games?

I personally like all of them.
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>>376769369
Shame we never got a sequel or even PS2 port on PSN. Co-op was very fun, it even had a versus mode which is uncommon for these types of games.
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>>376773892
I thought they already did fall under the beat-e'm up genre. People say otherwise?
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>>376773946
I like them, I wanted to buy Samurai Warriors 4 and Berserk but they are still a bit expensive
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>>376774428
Berserk looks like genuine shit, might as well pirate
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>>376773892
>>376774297
They're considered the evolved version of the genre. Usually just called hack and slash
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>>376773946
They're fun but it's a different feel from classic beatemup type games, hence why I bet OP is asking specifically for those

Beatemups are usually less in depth combos and less flashy but super satisfying, there's nothing like slugging some douchecanoe in his jewish snout in some alleyway.

Usually stuff like using enemy weapons Streets of Rage style and environmental attacks against them (Yakuza's HEAT is a shining example of environmental attacks)
throwing enemies into other ones, dealing with crowds one by one, whereas the DmC formula is you get more weapons as the game progresses, swap freely and airjuggle for combos, swipe multiple enemies at a time with gigantic weapons instead of managing crowds, I'd call it a subgenre of a "classic" beatemup formula
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>>376773892
CUHRAZEE/Character Action/Whatever is the natural evolution of the beat-em-up concept. We don't see much classic stuff anymore because they're often mechanically shallow and two dimensional, both figuratively and literally.
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>>376771398

tfw i'll never get to play dragons crown because it wont ever be released on pc
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>>376774193
That game was awful
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>>376774840
Are you some mustard fag that refuses to get any other hardware?

Get a cheap Vita TV and hack it. Or borrow a ps3 from someone.
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>>376769369
Don't ever bring that up again

>>376774193
Fuck off faggot it isn't good
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>>376774732
>CUHRAZEE
Please kill yourself ASAP redtitard
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>>376773892
I don't think so. Spectacle fighteres generally don't allow you to interact with environment like grabbing pool cues/glass bottles/mail boxes, throwing enemies into hazards, or picking up and throwing objects like boxes/chairs/rocks. Also, you generally never collect various weapons from enemies throughout the game like bats and guns. More often, you find powerful upgradable weapons with infinite durability that you keep for the whole game. Also, there's rarely an emphasis on using your fists.

The gameplay just isn't quite the same. Still love those games though.
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Play this you guys
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>>376768739
Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks

Its a childhood classic for me.
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>>376774193
>>376769369
The Bouncer was all kinds of weird and crazy for me and my friends.
JANKY CONTROLS
I would prefer if they made a sequel to that game and keep the rocking music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzojE4y1iqk
>>376773892
I would just count them as 3d beat'em ups/ Action games/Hack 'n Slash games/ "Cuhrayzee" games. Too many names.
>>376773946
Yeah the majority of that genre is pretty good, but we need more 2d and 3d Beat'em ups.
>>376775085
Will probably try later
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>>376775048
Notice I added the other names people call it because faggots like you get triggered over the smallest things.
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I was making a list of beat em ups to play myself.

Try Zombie Revenge on Dreamcast. It takes place in the house of the dead universe.
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>>376774707
The problem with 'hack and slash' is I've seen it used to refer to shit like Dynasty Warriors or Sengoku Basara, which is definitely not the same thing as DMC, MGR:R,etc.
>>376775060
I like your distinction, the only time I've seen 'spectacle fighters' which allow you to use enemy's weapons is in Bayonetta.
Though I think there's a few oldie classic 'beat em up' games like Altered Beast or Golden Axe that also don't allow for this.
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>>376775048
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>>376775429
Where is Beatdown?
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>tfw there hasn't been a good Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles beat 'em up game since the Super NES
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>>376767298
Holy fucking shit, that was a great fucking game, good times were had.
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>>376775171
Ahem, Excuse me Sir.
Action games
3D Hack 'n Slash
3D beat'em up
CUHRAYZEE
Third person arcade fighting
BRAWLERS
Three-dimensional fighting game
Etc.
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>>376767298
Fighting Force gives me nostalgia. Me and my cousin used to play this thing the entire night. We regularly got rekt by some robot boss.
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>>376775429
Yo im gonna steal this.
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>>376776062
beat em ups don't use swords and guns except as disposable items

leave your shitty cuhrayzee shit out of this thread dmc fanbase is cancer
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>>376775429
>No God Hand
If your list only had one game it should be God Hand.
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>>376775085
Music is fantastic in this game.
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Overdone tacked on rpg elements.

Niggers can't just play a game about beating folks up now.

It has to be "dude i need to level for the fist move and then i need to get 5 knuckle dusters to make those into the super knuckle duster 5001 XD" garbage now, where every fucking enemy takes 7 trillion FUCKING HITS to kill to pad out the gametime and cover up for the lack of variation in level design and shit.

Beatemups are fucking dead because of fucking awful shitty leveling up numbers and loads of fucking shitty equipment bullshit and all these sorta fucking busy work mini games like cooking and shit.

Holy fuck just fuck off back to your rpgs, goddamn. Let me beat the fuck out of someone without it taking 5 minutes to do.
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Does this count as
3D beat em up?

Of course it does right? But it's got swords and shit so is it more hack and slash?

But Bayo 1/2 and MGR dont count.
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>>376776349
People give a shit about that casual garbage?
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>>376768887
Is this porn? Not interested otherwise.
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>>376772358
That cover is sexy as hell
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>>376768739
Violent Storm.
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>>376777017
Yeah love the artstyle
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>>376776473
Nobody will buy a game you can beat in 45 minutes anymore. You need something added for progression or replayable. Sorry.
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>>376767298
Fighting Force has a god tier soundtrack
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>>376767298
Fighting Force was so fucking amazing, holy shit. It was the pinnacle of co-op games.
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>>376777314

People buy games specifically so they can speedrun them all the fucking time. Do not say that excuse. Fuck off.
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The Simpsons Arcade is one of my favorite beat 'em ups ever. Alien vs Predator Arcade too. I miss arcades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mZKoejwKOs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trI5Os9d-AE
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They are too childish,too gamey, and overcompensate on machoness. The modern gamer needs more substance in their game
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>>376776473
I completely agree. I hate leveling bullshit. I want to be at max power immediately with all my moves, so I can just jump in and kick ass. I fucking hate only having access to good moves for 30 minutes at the end of a game.
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>>376777506
>Too childish
>Too macho

Which is it?
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>>376776473
Whoa whoa whoa, Anon. Of course, there are still beat'em ups like that. They're just all
Porn game now.
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>>376777704
they aren't mutually exclusive. Childish individuals are the ones who will overdo machoness because they believe it makes them cool
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>>376777746

>shitty busywork minigames

Like I said.
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>>376776062
>Three-dimensional fighting game
These already exist in the form of Tekken/Virtua Fighter/Soul Calibur, among others.
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>genre best played in co-op with friends
>Unironically have no friends
>Play beat em ups and get bored and lonely

I am a man of constant sorrow.
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>>376769361

>Too expensive to make

How so?.
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>>376772025
>tfw just looked at my copy of conker and remembered playing co-op with my best friend
>He was always teddies I was always squirrels
>tfw I know that feel
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>>376777506
>>376777704

>too macho

Hell yeah, God, I loved Yakuza 0 so much for that. Their manliness and honorable acts were so well represented, literally cried sometimes.
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>>376771449
Let me know when I can use Arena characters in the city. Again
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>>376767298
>Sequel was a 3rd person shooter starring the most boring character
WHY
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>>376777450
this may be the first time I see a 4 players coop in this game, still pretty fucking hard
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>>376776473
I felt this during Transformers Devastation, actually.

>start the game on hard mode
>think to myself "man Devastator is taking like 12 minutes to kill, am I doing this wrong?"
>turns out I do jack for damage because my stats are hardly leveled

The game is solid as far as its combat and presentation go but I'm not sure the RPG elements were necessary.
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>>376769014
How the fuck do I get good at this game. I really like it but it's kicking my ass. I died like 7 times on stage 1-1 lol.
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>>376778708
Yeah, I got stuck on a boss that was wrecking me over and over and I thought maybe there's a strategy to it or something im missing. I looked for a guide and the answer is apparently always just "grind more lol" or "get better weapon"

The ranking system is also fucked in that game too. It actively encouraged being cheap, cheesing and NOT killing opponents
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>>376778591
That shit was so odd. I bought the sequel because I loved playing the first game with my siblings in coop then the sequel only had Hawk (?) and it was this weird TPS instead. Speaking of which, what was the story in the first one even about? A bunch of punks going around beating vending machines and women named Lori and Tori in order to beat back that Heihachi looking corporate motherfucker?
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>>376777450
Whoever is playing Bart fucking sucks.
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I need a game like this https://youtu.be/8OSxTKlPIDw

Not really beat 'em up, but servers are dying everywhere and I really want to play something like this again.
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>>376779156
I dunno, conspiracies and shit. Maybe aliens?
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>>376778980
>can get easy SS rank just from spamming headshots with a pea shooter even if it takes you 15 minutes and you're mostly getting your ass kicked
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>>376779228
What the fuck is this???? Looks retardedly
Fun.
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>>376767298
i was thinking the same thing the other day, i think the answer is yakuza
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The Takeover is a pretty good game. It's an Early Access game though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66RI3ZO9C9s
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>>376779443
GetAmped. Don't even bother looking for servers, though, shit's dying even in Korea where it is way more famous than it was in US 4 or 5 years ago. Cyberstep simply don't give a shit anymore.
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>>376779291
Why didn't they patch this shit with something more balanced?

Reading how people get the full SS ranks is also awful. Most common tactic is to quit when they SS a level. Close the entire game. Save onto a USB. And make a backup and then load the save and the game again and try SS rank the next mission and repeat.

Fuck that shit. I'd rather not have the achievement.
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>>376768887
That's not even funny. Nigger. You shouldn't give that cuck any attention, even ironically.
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I like this thread
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>>376779784
Yeah this is a good thread. Been here since the start.
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>>376779280
Were there aliens to fight too? I can't recall.
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>>376771449
Did they fixed all those multiplayer bugs that were there during release?
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>>376775092
Boon is such a piece of shit for teasing an HD release and then showing jackshit afterward
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>>376779585
>those walking animations
>those character designs
>those leg muscles

Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>376779882
Alien or mutants. Like looked like ayys and were in tubes of liquid that would either break or you could break them. They were pretty tough from what I remember.

They might have been on the big plane or submarine.

That reminds me the game had branching paths depending on where you went.
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>>376779665
>GetAmped
Such a shame. I guess ill stick to DFO and Zone4
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Friendly reminder that...

Bare Knuckle 3 >>>>>> Streets of Rage 2
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>>376779881
me too
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>>376779228
>>376779228
>>376779228
Please, guys, help an anon in need.

>>376780226
Indeed. I wish they at least tried to put it on steam or whatever. Just bring back my childhood.
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>>376779935
They fixed a lot of bugs at release. It's totally better than when it was first released.
>>376778443
I never really fucked around with Arena characters or Arena in general.
>>376780380
Yeah for some reason having it on steam is really convenient. I totally think more games should do the same.
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>>376776247
Where is that little gnome fucker from
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>>376780638
Golden Axe
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>>376767298
>No Akiba's Trip mentioned
It's fun
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>>376780638
Golden Axe
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>>376780638
Arcade machines in pubs during the late 90s.

Golden Axe.
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>>376780752
thanks bruh
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>>376780764
It's weird how the waifu/panty quest weeb audience is basically keeping the genre alive what with this and Senran Kagura and whatever else Marvelous shits out
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>>376778372
There's so many co-op games on my shelves collecting dust. I wish I could just play them with somebody one last time.
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>>376772996
>Anarchy Reigns

Played this game like a month ago for the first time in forever. Did one (1) match. Got destroyed because it's been years and I forgot how to play.

Turned my PS3 on today and find I have 16 messages from 6 different people I don't know begging me to play. This is the most depressing online community I think I've ever seen desu.
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>>376783294
Yeah, it's sad to witness a community slowly die.
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>>376780764
>your move list consists of one attack and a charge attack

no, it's not fun
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>>376773946
Hack 'n slash are just beat 'em ups with swords.
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>>376779585
Source?
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>>376767298
Platinum cuhrayzee shit and Dynasty warriors are still a thing nigga
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>>376775429
God Hand should be above anything else in this list.
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>>376771449

I was so hyped for this game

It came out, buggy as shit, and I've never picked it up since. I don't really have the urge to give it another try either considering that all the grappler characters are fucking garbage at low levels even with the additional moves patch they added.
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>>376773892

If there's no crowd control an environmental interaction, then I don't consider them beat'em ups.

They're fun ACTION games (fuck off CUHRAZY fags), but they lack a lot of what beat'em ups, beat'em ups.
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>>376784941
I don't know about you, but the game has gotten update pretty frequently. I haven't experienced a glitch/bug in a while. My only gripe with the game is the last boss was really easy, but maybe I wasn't playing on the hardest difficulty. Probably gonna Max out all the characters and call it a day. Really need more people to play with.
Don't be surprised if we another thread like this and I have 100+ hours.
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>>376767298
it died with the 90s

and no, you fucks, shit like bayonetta and godhand and yakuza aren't TRUE beat'em ups like Streets of Rage and Final Fight

fuck you, im right and you know this as truth
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>>376771937
dlc would be sorceress with bigger tits
and i would buy it
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>>376778332
Nobody buys anything anymore unless it's game installment 26 or made by a AAA company with solid 10/10 (paid)reviews across the board.

To risky to make a new game in what is effectively a dead genre.
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>>376785825
Fuck you I want more characters, side quests, more story, and artwork. So much potential, anon. We could have fought HOT AMAZONIAN BITCHES or DRAGON BITCHES, while playing as a skeleton.
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>>376786448
>wanting to fight amazon chicks
>wanting to fight dragon chicks
>while playing as a Skeleton
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>>376786448
just pull a Guardian Heroes and make all the NPCs playable
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>>376780589

My only problem with them is that some moves are still kind of fucked. Including Wes' Grapple Knee which wouldn't piss me off so hard if the move hadn't worked from the get go. One patch later now all of a sudden both punch and kick buttons have him perform the elbow.
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>>376786927
Fucking GENIUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z8qnJf9nXw
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>>376783294

A month ago? So there are still games? Wow. Shame the co-op isn't much to talk about but I'll never forget playing online and hearing a dude absolutely lose his shit because he found out that you could ride on a mobile Garuda's back. As well as shoot.
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>>376786448
>>376786891

It was sad to hear that the creator had pretty much done everything he had wanted to do, which was pretty heartbreaking in the matter because it meant we were NEVER getting anything added onto DC again.

Damn shame too because goddammit I wanted to fight on top of a super ship.
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>the only mention of The Warriors ITT is on a gay little list

You all dissapoint me to no end. The Warriors is criminally underrated and the best game Rockstar ever shat out, while also being the best movie tie-in ever made. The combat is visceral, there are tons of gangs to unlock, a decently long story mode with some long levels, a fun as fuck multiplayer, there's nothing missing.

It also has that sweet 70s italo disco soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lpWYFN7ZFc
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I haven't found one I like as much as God Hand. There's nothing like that one.
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>>376787890

I got a copy on both my vita and my ps4 but I got no one in the house who wants to play it with me.

years ago though, I managed to play through it during one of the levels where there was a riot of some sort. A friend was popping buy and all he needed to do was try it out once, finding out he could crossbody a whole group of gangmembers and from then on in the ball kept rolling.

We played that shit to the end.
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>>376767298
Holy fuck that guy is jacked.
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>>376767298
Rockstar stopped making them. Bully and the warriors are two of the funnest beat-em-ups I've ever played.

a sequel for bully is rumored to be in the works
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>>376767298
Yakuza
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>>376780589
>Arena

It's your common deathmatch setting where you can use any characters you've defeated in Story mode (with their full movelist) in addition to the story characters. But since it's limited to deathmatch and five small stages it gets pretty dull real quick when most characters are kitted out to deal with entire mobs instead of actively fighting one on one. Barring some missing animations, arena-locked characters seemed to function just fine in the city but the RPG aspects would cause some of them to rapidly overscale.
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>>376788042
That riot level was fun as fuck, stealing TVs and throwing them at hobos was priceless. And I can relate, whenever I had buddies over and we needed something to pass the time I popped in The Warriors and we were glued to the screen for hours.

>I got a copy on both my vita

Can you play the PSP version on Vita normally or are you using homebrew for that? Cause if it's the former I'll have to jump on that.
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>>376767298
They became games like Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden, Shinobi, Bayonetta, etc.
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>>376787570
I don't know I was pleased with the game, but I believe a re-release is needed or something. >>376788362
Oh well, that's pretty slick. I'll try it out after I max out my chars.
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>>376788112
that GUY is how all americans used to look
just hulking masses of meat and grapple
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