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gotta say I am pretty impressed with the expansion so far. After finishing ARR I started HW a few days ago and it's such a step up in everything, especially the quests. will SB continue the upgrade?
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>>376745769

we don't know shit about SB so I'm assuming no until proven otherwise
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who odin here
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>>376745769
They finally dropped PS3 support so I would be surprised if they downgraded in quality.
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>>376745769
Yoshi P doesn't like to show a lot, so it's hard to tell. We didn't see most of the cool Heavensward areas until release, so we won't know anything until release probably.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvdjOUvRdBk

Remember when FFXIV was good?
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I'm actually getting hyped despite myself. I know it will end in disappointment but goddammit I wanna STUDY THE BLADE.
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>>376745994
>3hrs of farming
What's good about this?
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>>376745960
We're supposed to see more this weekend, or was it next weekend?

Then there's the live letter at the end of the month.

Inb4 it's just 2 new skills for each job and no other info other than concept art
>please look forward to it
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TEN
MORE
DAYS
UNTIL
LIVE
LETTER

SPECIAL LIVESTREAM GUEST: HIRO
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>>376746302
It's not 3h of PotD
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>>376746402
can't you still level though fates though?
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>>376746370
I imagine we'll get screenshots of the remaining jobs sometime in the next 12 or so hours. Then a new media packet next week.
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>>376745946
Dropping PS3 support means less loading zones. Also DX9 support was dropped in favor of DX11. Wouldn't be surprised if upgrading to Win10 will be a requirement when/if DX11 support gets dropped.
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>>376746468
You see next to no one doing FATEs anymore unless they're farming for shards.
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xth for FUCK YOU ELITIST A1S LIGHT PARTIES

trivial easy farming shit that shouldn't be an issue having 2 healers in a party
>nope only 1 healer gotta have another dps sorry
LITERALLY SKIP SOAR 2.0

quitting this dogshit over trying to finish light, when a community can't even let someone who will be probably 75% of a DPS's d/s

gay fucking cunts in PF
>in b4 make your own
can't make my own when 4 other parties are also waiting on 2-3 more DPS themselves, ya, people are gonna join mine when they can get in 10 minutes faster eh?
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>>376746468
People complained about them ending too quickly so SE buffed the monster's HP and never buffed the exp to compensate, so they're dead.
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>>376746775
>DX9 support was dropped
Wrong. Game still supports DX9 and 32bit Windows. They stressed this multiple times.
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>>376746883
This "community" is even more autistic than WoW's
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>>376747075
Sorry I hit post too sudden. Was referring to the benchmark.
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>>376746775
>loading zones
This is what made ARR zones interesting. Who wants to travel through boring, huge landmasses?
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>>376747229

I'm all for loading zones, but I'm referring to areas like New and Old Gridania. I'm glad the major city will have fewer loading zones.

I do pity people with toasters and who play on PS4.
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>>376746883
>Healers and Tank laugh at us DPS because our queue times are super long
>A1S parties becomes 1 healer 1 tank 6 dps
>Healer and tank babbies cry they have to wait very long to get in a party
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>>376747839
And by adding two new DPS, we're going to be seeing the 20% Healer, 20% Tank, 60% DPS suddenly become 15, 15, 70.
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>>376747441
PS4 isn't so bad. It's the equivalent of a mid tier desktop. PS4 Pro people also getting big upgrades for 4.0. like 4k support.
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>>376747951
They already proved that adding in new tanks and healers doesnt get more people playing them. The same amount of people playing tanks in 2.0 to 3.0 barely even rose at all.
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>>376747229
Ask the people who gave skyrim and Zelda botw 10/10's
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>>376748498
With the large amount of women and gays playing this game, I'm not surprised. Tanking is alpha male role. Non alpha males seek comfort in submissive roles like healers and ranged DPS.
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>tfw going to have to go full autism during early access to secure my spot in the market board Jew cabal

I'M READY THIS TIME YOU FUCKERS
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>>376748779
>tfw almost every tank I know is gay

Really kupos my nuts
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>>376748807
gil is worthless
i literally have nothing to spend it on

the only high gil thing i bought was the POTD night pegasus

i don't give a shit about housing because i don't erp or have an autistic need to organize some place ill never been inside
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>Alex at 30%
>second set of puddles
15% echo is a meme.
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>>376748895
That means they're the ones sticking it in the pooper, not receiving it.
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>>376749078
You're right actually.
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>>376748926
>gil is worthless
Wrong.
Gil buys you any carry you want. Also if you play on a RP server, people will literally be your slave for gil. There's a lalafell out there that is the master of a pimp ring.
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>>376748926
I'm getting rich this time cause I plan on funding our new FC static for raid consumables.
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>>376748895
Every caster ive ever known was gay/bi. And this is across multiple servers.

The last SMN I had took two weeks off raiding to get married to his boyfriend and have their honeymoon.
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Is anyone else waiting for the live letter to decide on which job you will take to 70 first or have you already decided?
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>>376745769
The only thing I'm looking forwards to in SB are the new tracks.

Fuck, I can see a bright future for based Soken after he's done with this game. Guy's got potential.
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>>376749232
>gil buys you carries
It also buys you spots on people's blacklists.
Raidgroups that sell carries may also share buyer names with others, so they know how to sell to / avoid in future groups. But with the amount of people doing Creator it's probably not as viable.
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>>376745897
literally who
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>>376749292
>tfw gay and absolutely fucking hate casting, both dps and healer wise
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HERE'S A GREAT STORY.
I LOADED INTO EYES OF THE CREATOR, WE GET INTO THE BOSS ROOM, EVERYBODY POSITIONS THEMSELVES, I POP UP A WAYMARK FOR WHERE FAUST WILL DIE. IT'S FINE.
"YOU MIGHT HAVE TO MT LOL," SAYS THE OTHER TANK. "I HAVE TO AFK IN A MINUTE."
I INFORM HIM THAT MTING THIS FIGHT IS NOT A HARD JOB AND ASK HIM WHY IF HE HAD TO GO AFK SOON HE QUEUED AT ALL. "LIFE IS WHY," HE SAYS. JUST AS THE REST OF THE GROUP IS STARTING TO GET IN ON THIS SASSING, HE PULLS. SO WHATEVER. THE FIGHT STARTS.
ABOUT A MINUTE IN IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT HE REALLY DID AFK. FOR THE MOMENT HE'S HOLDING AGGRO BUT HE'S NOT COOLDOWNING THROUGH ANYTHING, NOT MOVING OUT OF SHIT, NOT REPOSITIONING FOR LAVA. I SIGH BUT HOPE HE'LL BE BACK SOON ENOUGH TO MOVE THE GUY FOR FAUST.
HE WAS NOT.
FAUST DID MANAGE TO DIE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT MORE OR LESS THE INSTANT HE WENT DOWN ONE OF THE NINJAS PULLED HATE ON THE BOSS. I PROVOKED HIM AND HURRIEDLY ASKED ONE OF THE DPS TO DO GENERATORS IF THEY COULD, AND THEY AGREED. THE REST OF THE FIGHT GOES FINE, THOUGH AFK BUDDY SHOWS UP WHEN THE BOSS IS AT 10% AND PROVOKES HIM BACK AGAIN. WHATEVER. NICE TO SEE YOU BUDDY.
AS SOON AS THE FIGHT'S OVER I TYPE UP A BIG PARAGRAPH TELLING HIM NOT TO PULL THAT SHIT AGAIN, SAYING JUST BECAUSE HE'S A TANK DOESN'T MEAN HE GETS A FREE CARRY, SAYING IF HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO AFK HE SHOULD LEAVE AND EAT THE PENALTY OR NOT QUEUE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND BASICALLY SAYING I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S ONE OF THOSE DPS WHO LISTS THEMSELVES AS A TANK FOR SHORTER QUEUES.
"IT'S JUST A GAME, LOL," THE RESPONSE COMES. "RELAX." EVERYONE HAS ROLLED ON THE ALEX PIECES ... EXCEPT THIS GUY. MORE AND MORE OF THE PARTY STARTS CHIPPING IN. "DUDE, ROLL OR GO SO WE CAN LEAVE." "ROLL AND MOVE ON." "PLEASE JUST FUCKING ROLL."
"MY GF SAYS HI," THE DUDE CONTINUES. "SHE'S WHY I HAD TO AFK BTW."
"DUDE, JUST ROLL."
NOPE! HE SAT THERE BEING A SMUG LITTLE SHIT ABOUT HOW IT WAS JUST A GAME AND EVERYBODY NEEDED TO CHILL OUT FOR THE FULL 5 MINUTES.
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>>376749381
I'm doing SMN since I can use SCH to dodge queue times.
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What's a good server to transfer to? The one I'm currently is pretty dead.
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>>376749232
>Gil buys you any carry
I am not that pathetic
>RP
lol no I said no ERP

>>376749259
good for you, at least you have a purpose

tbf in 4.0 I can always sell "WANT FAST QUEUE TIMES? PAY ME AS A TANK" for my server for all the retarded SAM users trying to level

my friend and I have planned this, we'll make bank. we're going to charge at least 100k+ for each leveling roulette (per person); if people don't want it, fine, there's supply and demand bitch, and the demand is hiiigh
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>>376746370
Monday after next.

May 22.
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>>376749381
Leaning towards AST or WHM, but I am most likely going to play SAM since I'm tired of being a Balance dispenser.
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>>376745994
>FATE Farm
Fucking kill it with fire, even before dungeon exp was buffed I couldn't stand this braindead shit of running between fate's every 10 minutes just to hit an aoe skill three times and stop caring my contribution after that. Might as well have been some facebook clicker game or something. Braindead. I fucking hate FATEs with a passion. Just make monsters give tougher and give good EXP like in XI if you want something in the open world, just please no braindead FATEs where I get loss in a sea of mindless robots where my class gear and ability absolutely have no impact on anything.
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Can anyone playing on Hyperion recommend an FC that isn't total shit or dead now?
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>>376749734
>Hyperion

Mate I'm on there. Let me save you the suspense and just say move to another server. Hell, Gilgamesh would be a much better server at this point.
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>>376745897
Me.
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>>376748498
This isn't true. I really don't like WHM or SCH gameplay (I can play them but it just doesn't feel good) but AST feels good I really enjoy healing for once.
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>>376749381
Already decided on RDM months ago. If got a level 50 BiS set ready to go for launch.
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>>376748926
I'm laughing at you on my private house you peasant!
looks at these homeless fags hahaha
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>>376749493
>In the Two-thousand seventeenth year of our lord
>still doing creator normal
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>>376750021
>ALEX PIECES
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>>376749935
A new healer would be the same as the others with new names, just like how SAM is going to be MNK/NIN with new names.
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>>376749675
>good XP like in XI
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
have fun camping the dunes
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>>376749381
Tentatively Monk, then probably Ninja.
Following that, most likely Black Mage, Dragoon and Dark Knight. The others will all follow in order of whatever strikes my mood.

Red Mage and Samurai it'll depend on how much I enjoy them whether I get them done sooner or later.
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>>376750127
Not if it was Dancer. See an awful lot of potatoes, namely male, in slut glamours twerking to heal wounds. Healing with TP would be interesting however.

>>376750160
Anon, we don't talk about XI. We've moved past that.
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>>376746883
lel nigger I did that shit with an 8 man tank party. It's not like most dps are actually dpsing anyway, just your average netflix player doing sub 1k.
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/v/

Tell it to me straight

How are the cross class ability changes going to affect people who don't use jobstones?

Surely they won't remove cross class abilities for people without jobstones, because the system HAS to stay in place for crafters
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>>376750127
Too bad MNK doesn't provide utility that NIN provides.
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>>376749525
Depends of your datacenter of choice.
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>>376750127
>SAM is going to be MNK/NIN with new names.
Opinion: Discarded.
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>>376749381
Pretty much.
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>>376750372
It's possible to change one without breaking the other
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>tfw for expert I only play tank because even healer has a 13min queue time
Since when does everyone heal? Is it that easy for trash dungeons? I literally have never healed the i230 dungeon because of these queue times versus insta-Q for tank.
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>>376750372
The new system is "Role Based". As "Crafter" is a "Role" shared by all such classes, odds are they will remain the same under the new system rules.
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>>376750160
dude what? no one camps anymore. The game practically pisses exp on you now. the exp was doubled from what it normally was. T and above can easily give over 1k exp
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>>376750380
>missing the point
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>>376748926
But goy, you'll need both gil and MGP to fund your blitzball team.
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>>376750459
/follow
run netflix.exe
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>>376750446
>It's possible to change one without breaking the other

Well it's also possible that the cross class ability pool will only change when equipping a jobstone

maybe instead of the categories being
-GLD
-MRD
-CNJ
etc

equipping a job stone changes them to
-TANK
-MELEE
-RANGED
-HEALER

but not having the jobstone lets you continue to crossclass from the other classes like before
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>>376746883
Believe it or not, there are actually groups that don't meet the dps to zerg kill A1S. Having 1 healer / 1 tank increases your chances of a kill.
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>>376750542
>playing MNK

Don't need to acknowledge it.
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>>376750401
Man you're gonna feel so bad in a month.
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>>376750556
i do this all the time, meme aside, netflix healing is sorta not true thou.
I just read news.
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>>376750604
You're asking for conjecture, all you#re going to get is a list possibilities.

>>376750693
>implying I play MNK
A shot in the dark does not negate your lack of understanding.

What you posited has nothing to do with the context.
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>>376750735
We know next to nothing regarding new abilities. And who is to say that utility will be a thing for SAM?

Plus LB3 SAM is strictly single target so we'll probably have one SAM for LB over a DRG.
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>>376750604
I approve of this
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>>376750867
All of the melee DPS play very similarly, and Yoshi already said its going to be a 3 button combo style system with the SAM skills.
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>>376750961
>1280x1024
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>>376750961
>Noroi "meld elemental materia for 2% mitigation" Kisaragi
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>>376750604
Staying as a class should get you nothing

Fuck those level 60 pugilist cucks
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>Do content months after it came out with high ilvl and echo that the group could do with one man down anyway
>Im......viable....
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>>376750991
Yoshi has lied and mislead before. I would genuinely wait before doing anything just yet.

To be safe though, leveling other jobs and DoL to 60 so I feel like I have options after getting fucked.
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>>376750991
what the point of playing DPS anymore? what''s the point of playing this game anymore!?
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Why don't you guys talk about the truly best part of learning about the new skills?

Yoshi-P will be demonstrating them himself; meaning we get to see everything on his cute lil' Lalafell! XD
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>>376751728
What's the point of playing any MMO? Clearly no one has fun and the systems found in these games are better in other genres.

Just make the genre go extinct like RTS and MUDs.
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>>376750961
>that resolution
>that UI
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why can't /v/ or /xivg/ do something nice for Yoshi when reddit can?
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>>376752109
Because reddit sucks yoshi's dick even after he lowered dungeons per patch from 3 to 2
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>>376752261
But it lets them devote more resources to high quality content like Lord of Verminion, Diadem, and more cash shop items! :^)
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>>376752109
>wanted to throw in a little contribution with my FC
>we could never properly organize ourselves to get together and take a pic
next year...
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>>376752041
that's right, video games, especially MMO games are merely artificial funs. Why are we even trying?
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>>376752337

>we could never properly organize ourselves to get together and take a pic
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>finally buy the game after brining every class to lvl 35 in the trial
>get called a cunt, retard, idiot etc. in less than 4 hours
I don't know what i expected
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>>376750961
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>>376752334
Remember triple triad? Man it was so fun to participate in a tournament last week by myself.
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>>376749998
i literally have no use for one
but ok

>>376750324
no shit
but every faggot in every x pf i find is like NO WE NEED 6 DPS FUCK OFF
jesus christ this fucking community is a bunch of limp wristed SKIP SOAR redditor fags

>>376750553
I got 1.4mil MGP saved

>>376750683
??? wow they must be shit because ive even had 2t 2h 4dps do it fine, but that was like a week ago when i got lucky to get in one
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Anyone have a fucking idea why so much mystery about SB features?
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DRK rework when?
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>>376752334
>tfw some people actually think like this
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>>376752573
more mystery more sales

gotta make up their losses
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>>376752573
Artificial hype
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>>376749675
>braindead shit
That's dungeons and PotD
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>>376752481
I don't believe you actually. Any other game, sure, but not FFXIV. And IF it happened, a GM would issue an immediate suspension to whoever did it. They are super strict about harassment. Just open up a ticket with the offending names.
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stop parsing post echo
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>>376752524
>5.1 FPS
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>>376752573
They did the same thing with Heavensward. Builds up hype as people speculate what's added/changed and less people cancel preorders which looks good for investor reports.
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>>376752790
FATEs are braindead as well
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is it really true that blizzard is delaying their next patch til the day SB comes out?
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>>376752890
I actually didn't pre-order by the lack of information, unless I'm a fucking special snowflake and I highly doubt it, people only buy things they are sure on what they are getting.
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>>376752573
>>376752735
they know hype can be shortlived, so they are saving the best for the live letter in a week. Western game advertisment: 1 year before the actual content, """"beta tests"""" where everything gets datamined and cleared before release. Eastern game advertisment: drops here and there with most of the juicy stuff a month before release, no datamining so everything is fresh and full of surprises on release.

In short, go back to world of warcraft.
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>>376752816
kek'd
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>>376753003
I'd believe it. However builds on the PTR that are released every Tuesday have kinda calmed down until recently.

My best guess is either they release the build prior to SB launching, or same day early access starts.
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>>376752109
Nobody should be making nice things for this lazy fuck. If anything, someone should shoot him or stab him on stage.

>2 dungeons per patch
>4-6 story missions per patch, sometimes less
>1 instanced trial per patch, with a hard mode that is actually the nominal normal difficulty mode and an extreme mode that is actually HM, so no actual EX fights at all
>either an instanced 24-man raid or an 4 copypasted 8-man raids consisting of a single boss encounter each
>dumber combat in SB, please be excited
>no more cross-class skills too, you shouldn't have to play the game to play the game
>JUMP POTIONS
>commissioning music from Soken and then not using it
>drop PS3 support but no graphical overhaul or at least some marginal improvement
>swimming = flying but the air is blue
>WoL still mute, nonreactive, basically a cardboard box with "protag" written on it

I could go on, but I won't. But I could.
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>>376753063
>people only buy things they are sure on what they are getting.
Say that to star citizen investors. 150 million dollars raised by preorders.
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>>376752805
I forgot to cast thunder on one of the POTD bosses and that guy went on a rant and told everyone how to do their rotation right and about his 40% cards
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>>376753231
Well yeah there is that too.
Thanks anon you made my day worse.
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>>376753217
>>drop PS3 support but no graphical overhaul or at least some marginal improvement

Benchmarks show how optimized the game has gotten. Barely 10k on the benchmark for ARR, 12k for Heavensward, and 15k for Stormblood.

Plus PS3 support holds the game back in the long run.
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>>376753217
you should also add
>MOG STATION
>enjoys indulging his autistic community of fervoring redditors who shill for free
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>>376752816

It's doubly funny because pretty much literally almost every toptier static laughs at people who apply to FC or a static with padded parses, they don't even respond.
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>>376753191
i know it's business but thats always seemed kind of scummy to me and at this point i dont think the people who play wow are going to bother to hop over to this at this point anyway
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Why do people still play this game? It's weekly lockouts and grinding for tokens. Why is my autistic friend addicted to this shit game?
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So I got my armorer to 60 and bought the master book for 750 blue scripts. I still can't make the last armor (from the 60 quest). How do I learn the recipe?
Also, I'm unsure if I bought the 350 blue scripts of the 750 for my 60 carpenter. Is the a way to check that?
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>>376753217
>2 dungeons per patch
that's plenty actually. I would say there's almost too many dungeons 1-50, so they are correct by not adding too many now.
>no more cross-class skills too, you shouldn't have to play the game to play the game
forcing every single melee DPS to level lancer to 34 is a silly game design, it's about time they get rid of it. Cross-class skill should be something a little extra, it shouldn't be REQUIRED. Like not giving warrior provoke is stupid.
>JUMP POTIONS
I don't like them, but as long as there are daily duties all lvling content will stay alive.
>drop PS3 support but no graphical overhaul or at least some marginal improvement
PS4 Pro support and improvement to PC already confirmed.

please go on, you have no real arguements.
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>>376746883
Working on my third tank anima and I feel your pain anon. Start your own party and they just party hop away because people are scared that all your slots are white. Week one we had a 4tank 4heal party that had zero issue and didn't kill it much slower than usual Aether 6+ DPS groups. Doesn't help that majority DPS players are borderline comatose.
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>>376753560
You should've bought the cheaper book.
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>>376753428
>i know it's business

And that's it, right there. Square Enix is a business. Blizzard is a business. At the end of the day, they're both businesses that are selling both a product and a service.

Nothing more.

>>376753523
People can like and enjoy different things, anon. Who knew?

It's no different than trying to understand why people have certain fetishes that other people don't understand and want to understand, like feet for example.
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>>376753612
So I need to buy both books for all my crafters?
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>>376753523
Why do millions of people still play MOBAs? It's pure toxicity and nothing but a cheap skinnerbox with 1 primary map design. Why is my autistic friend addicted to this shit?
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>>376753217
I see nothing wrong with Jump Potions. Some people want to play the game with their friends without having to go through the story and various content ilvl or level gates.

Plus hey, it's optional.
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>ff11 14 day free trial
>it takes 14 days just to download the game
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>>376753591
>improvement to PC already confirmed
can you provide a source to this because i dont know what "improvement" entails
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>>376754061
it's not timed anymore.
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>>376754061
stop living in mexico
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>>376753591
>improvement to PC already confirmed
Source: (You)

>>376753821
Should be optional for me to play or not with a Lv70 tank that is just now running his 10th dungeon too, then.
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>>376754061
Square has both their MMOs running at the same time? I thought 11 died a while ago
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>>376753591
No "plenty" is a shitty argument when they used to have more content when the game had less funding and notoriety. You're literally defending them getting away with seeing how little content they can push out without people getting upset by defending the concept of plenty enough.
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>>376749381
I already decided on Red Mage forever ago, though I might also play Monk for story reasons like I played Dragoon for HW.
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>>376754103
Not the anon you are replying to but I can provide some context.

Running the three benchmarks for ARR, Heavensward, and Stormblood, I get better numbers each time.

Using the default human male -

ARR: 10,954
Heavensward: 12,229
Stormblood: 15,916

Adding to that, same computer, same specs, same things running in the background (which was basically almost none), internet was unplugged, etc.

To me that means the game has gotten more optimized, and since they dropped PS3 support, seems fair they were able to make things prettier or whatever.
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>>376753740
Yes. And all the books for gathering too. Now get to grinding blue scrips.
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WTF I STARTED LAGGING IN PVP

I THOUGHT THE PS4 VERSION WAS GOOD
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i like and enjoy this game i look forward to sb where i can play through it with my significant other
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>>376754189
I think it's silly that you think people will be more dogshit than they already are at max level by buying a potion than if they actually leveled.
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>>376754284
Console version.

>>376754189
Become butt buddies with a tank main.
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>>376753821
>enter lv70 dungeon
>guy playing MNK because it's the expansion job
>only uses BS combo because it's the buttons that light up, no positionals
>tank randomly uses moves without comboing, pulls with provoke and doesn't use cooldowns
>healer sits around and occasionally throws the strongest heal he has at the tank, no Cleric
>ask what the fuck they're doing
>"I just stated last week xD"
>"wow ur such a tryhard lmao"

Welcome to Stormblood: Final Fantasy XIV.
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>>376754351
Interesting, but I dont trust the benchmark honestly. I'll have to see for myself come SB release.
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THIS
FUCKING
AUTISTIC
COMMUNITY
OVER LIGHT FARMING
A1S
PARTIES

GODDAMN FUCKING FAGGOTS
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>>376753740
You don't need to buy the Master Book 4s until you have the stats to 3* craft (870/835).
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>>376754610
This kind of shit already happens, whats your point?
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>>376749381
AST > WAR > RDM/SAM when their rotations are figured out
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>>376754649
Also it seems kinda like it's cheating that the Stormblood benchmark exclusively uses DX11 instead of DX9.
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>>376753217
>commissioning music from Soken and then not using it
>Implying it's uncommon for some commissioned tracks to not be included in releases
>swimming = flying but the air is blue
>Ignoring the totally different animations, visuals, ability to do so without a mount, and gathering to be done
>WoL still mute, nonreactive, basically a cardboard box with "protag" written on it
>Implying this is not common in numerous RPGs, and ignoring that 3.0 began to include many more response selections for the WoL and emotive reactions
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>>376754351
Why did required specs go up if the game runs easier?
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>>376754610
I'm so glad I'm in an FC that almost always has a group doing shit together.
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>>376749381
WAR master race since I hit 50 on it and I don't plan on changing.
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>>376754610
>>376754658
At level 50
I want to unsub this game now
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>>376754825
Copout answer is that it's a benchmark and should be taken, for the most part, like a grain of salt.

Personally I think it's because of them dropping PS3 support that caused a spike in score gain between HW and SB.
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>>376754779
>3.0 began to include many more response selections for the WoL and emotive reactions

You must be joking. When the actual fuck did you see this happen?

>totally different animations, visuals, ability to do so without a mount, and gathering to be done
Animations are only different because the mounts are different. Visuals are only different because, once again, the air is blue. And you could gather in HW areas too. Trivial to just place some nodes in the air if the player can dismount while airborne. Sorry, while "swimming".
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>>376754658
As someone who did Farming right when the runes came out. Beating A1S in like 4 minutes felt amazing when everyone int eh party actually knew what the fuck they were doing. Can't say that for now, but losing that made every party feel like a slog and slow as fuck.

Time is everything when you have to grind something a hundred times.
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>>376750160
Nigga I meant in comparison to the pittance we get from open world mobs in XIV it's good. Doesn't mean necessarily make the leveling process as slow.
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>it's another some asshole queues and forced 23 others into seal rock then healer has a dc and everyone refuses to change to healer including the three tanks then they don't even try to defend their nodes but attack the other teams who have healers Adders show
Nothing unusual here.
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>>376753591
Regardless of everything else complained about, consolidating required cross-class skills like Provoke and B4B to something every class in that role gets just makes sense. You shouldn't have to level MRD to 22 for Provoke if you want to play any tank, and you shouldn't have to level THM to 26 or whatever it is for Swiftcast if you want to play any caster.
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>>376754181
everywhere is mexico with this installer
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PvP is a mess and I've accepted I will never get the white ADS mount or the mini airship
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>>376754756
Heavensward benchmark is DX11 too.

>>376754351
If I can recall, ARR benchmarks based your score on your FPS only. Heavensward and Stormblood benchmarks score takes not only your FPS into account but your system specs and load times too.
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>>376754379
Me too. Cheers anon.
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>>376754610
>Being optimal is tryhard
A XIV tryhard is that person who obsesses over FFLogs and thinks WHM and PLD are absolute shit instead of out-of-meta.
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>no more PS3 limitations

What's the excuse for not bringing the butts back now?
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>>376755164
>When the actual fuck did you see this happen?
Haurchefant's death, chatting with Alisaie after beating Titan, and getting Nero's Magitek armor, to name a couple instances.

>An underwater environment is totally identical to an airborne environment, one's just blue.
Could you at least try to form an argument?
>If the player can dismount while airborne. Sorry, while "swimming".
See, this is why that argument is bullshit. You don't need to dismount underwater because you don't NEED the mount at all, thus why you have a totally new set of animations which are utterly unrelatable to flying.
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I want to tenderly care for Miq'utees
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>>376755757
Laziness
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>>376755757
Motomu Toriyama limitations
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>>376755628
pld is pretty shit
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>>376755757
Yoshi doesn't want to stretch the textures of pants

That's literally what he said.
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>>376755757
That they want to shove more shit on-screen at once instead of improve on what they already can.

Butts specifically though, since fags on Hyperion and Balmung keep asking, is that giving players the option of bigger butts would mean stretching the textures on the backsides of armor sets. Apparently.
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>>376750961
Looks like WoW (almost).
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>>376755908
Yeah but you can still clear Savage Creator with it, it's just the first two parts of Alexander that they sucked on.
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>>376755863
>You will never make kittens with a cute cat girl
I don't know what I'm living for.
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>>376755757
I dont care if the Japanese have to work to death, I want DPS and Healer to change and I want my butt back.
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>>376756000
Doesn't that apply to bust size too though?
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>>376755763
>Haurchefant dies
>/sad
>talking with Alisaie
>she says a bunch of stuff
>/smile *nod*
>get Nero's armor
>/grin

Dialogue options:
>guy tells you about the Heavens' Ward near the end of 3.0
>"I'll kill them"
>"I'll kill them for x reason"
>"..."

How could I miss all those character building moments?
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>>376755863
I want to make lizards.
I want to see little lizards crawling around.
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>>376756142
Yes but japs actually like tits.
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>>376754658

I have no idea why people insist on only having one healer. I was in a farm party last night with 3 healers and we were able to push DPS just fine.
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>>376755757
1.0 butts is a meme, they are the same shit
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>>376755975
>doesn't want to stretch textures
>there's a bust slider that does exactly that

Hypocrite. What a waste of Yoshida's concept art. They should've put the guy in charge of XII to make the models in this thing.
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>>376756250
They're not though.
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>>376755272
>after that I get into Shatter
>suddenly dog needs to get out
>couldn't show up earlier when I looked after him
>switch to NIN, invisible, atutowalk
>come back
>game itself kicked me due inactivity
>of course that never fought match still counts towards the frontlines total
FUCK THIS SHIT

FUCK IT HARD
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>>376756042
Isn't almost all of A12 magic damage? I heard it was particularly bad in A11 and A12 as well because of that
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>>376756397
>drop support for 10-year old hardware
>no changes to character models even though literally everyone wants it

Tell the truth, you fucking lazy japs. You just don't want to go through all the trouble.
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>>376756625
His auto attacks are physical, but the rest is magical, yeah. My group has a PLD tank and we cleared with very few issues within three weeks, though.
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I'm EU playing on NA servers.
How hard will the server relocation fuck me?
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>>376755401
Both of those are easy to get, what's the matter?
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>>376751246
This would break solo Deep Dungeon runs though, which is the only real problem.
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>>376756715
Where were they before and where are they going?
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>>376755757
PS4 limitations
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>>376753523
Because I play this game when the sequential patch (the catch-up patch that removes the lockout and increases tome/gear rates) comes out. Anyone who does otherwise is a cuck and an erper/tryhard.
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>>376756686
>ARR to HW
>Make 3 jobs and a new (bad) race
>HW to SB
>two jobs
>no we no work on customization, have two ugly haircuts
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>>376756838
>Where were they before
Quebec
>where are they going?
Somewhere on the west coast USA, they haven't told us where.
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>>376756686
PS4 limitations. :^)
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>>376756686
>literally everyone wants it
Literally who? Balmung and the /vg/ trannies?

This game has bigger problems that need addressing than butts and faces.
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>>376749381
MCH
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>>376756686
You vastly overestimate the amount of people who want more customization options, let alone trivial shit like butt sliders. The best you're gonna get is some more face options.
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>>376749381
Do main story as monk
After im done with that, level SAM and not worry about gear because monk shares it
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>tfw all the budget went into making a cheesy live action show and a shitty novel and the rest most likely dumped into the company to make up for ff15 losses
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So SB isn't gonna have much more content than an even patch, is it?
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>>376757238
>LNs
>Having a big impact on budgets
Dad of Light is risky though, how do you even make money off Netflix?
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>>376757238
Why do people think budget and staff are all drawn from one pool when making a game?
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>>376756931
4 jobs actually. Don't forget ninja that was released in 3.4, when hw was almost finished
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>>376757156
>more face options
Not even that, and that's my entire point. Not just butt sliders or whatever the fuck, but any kind of customization improvement at all.

There are only 4 faces for every race and gender. There won't be more. There are only four different eye shapes. There won't be more. The best you can customize your body is height, three options of muscle tone that make no real difference and boobs if you're a girl.

Customization is ass in this game and therefore every character looks the same. This is a real issue.
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>>376757238
Yup.
Also worth noting that FFXV is the reason XIV got so little for and during Heavensward. No new jobs mid-xpac anymore, two dungeon roulettes, laughable relic whose content is just a cutscene and tomestone sink per patch etc
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>all signs are pointing towards SAM being MNK but with a 2.5s GCD and castbars
What are the odds of SAM not being complete fucking garbage?
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>>376745769
I keep getting level gated and it's demotivating me
what do I do
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>>376756931
>Ignoring that SB will add twice what HW did to the game's map
inb4 "Empty Areas".
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>>376757494
Judging from past job additions, it'll be either way OP on release or utterly unusable trash. And in either outcome it'll be tougher to play than MNK, probably with a busier set of oGCDs to mash. Have fun melee shithead.
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>>376757443
There will be more if people are more vocal about it and not at the last second before an expansion comes out.
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>>376757541
>Everyone spends their time in Mor Dhona 3.0 instead
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>>376757006
>west coast
wasn't this just a rumour with absolutely nothing to back it up
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>>376757494
5:1
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>>376745897
me
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>>376757469
The flaw in that possibility is that XV is out now and XIV hasn't got any less shit. If anything, SB is promising less of the same, what with just 2 new jobs, no new race and no graphical overhaul a la DX11 in HW.
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>>376757541
Just because you inB4 something doesnt mean its not an argument. Zone activity density has been a major issue in 3.0. What good are huge zones if theres nothing in them besides scattered fates and maybe one dungeon entrance?
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I genuinely hope SB MSQ won't have shitty level curves where you accept a quest at levl 66 and the next one is at 68 like they did in ARR and HW. That shit infuriated me, I fucking hate gated quests, especially when shit was getting interesting.
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>>376757494
It's going to be a melee caster 100%. Enjoy them constantly dying to easily dodgeable shit.
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>>376757601
Nothing has been said about location. It wouldn't make much sense to have it on the west coast considering the JPs have their own, and lots of EU people still play on the NA datacenter.
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>>376757541
That just isn't true. Confirmed zones:
>Gyr Abania
>Ruby Tide
>Yanxia
>Azim Steppe
>Rhalgr's Reach (endgame hub)
>Kugane (proper city)
So far that's even less outdoor zones than Heavensward had.
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>>376757494
SAM looks boring. Even the Katana looks weird, the only good thing about SAM is it will remove some of the NIN shitters.
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>>376757690
>It's going to be a melee caster 100%
But that's what RDM is. Surely they wouldn't make both SAM and RDM the same thing. Surely.
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>>376757469
Didn't Yoshi say adding Ninja mid expansion was a mistake and that would never happen again
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>>376757663
Mostly agreed, but keep in mind SE is treating XV as a live game. Content is still being produced for the title as if it were a live game.

Still not excited for SB though. There's a reason we know so little.
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>>376757381
Netflix pays to license it for their service.

Also you're forgetting that daddy of light is on Japanese television which makes money through network commercials.
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>>376757238
Every time I reminded that these two abominations exist, I get upset.
>a SAO-tier looking shitfest LN
>a show about a father finding out he's prison gay for his catgirl son in FFXIV

For fuck sake, you could've made a TV show about lore or some party of the story or fucking anything that's not what it is now and it'd at least be interesting. All it is at present is a thinly veiled (if at all) marketing scheme.
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>>376757797
RDM casts at range and has instant melee. SAM is going to be like BRD with all their attacks having cast bars.
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>>376757798
He said it was hell, but in a recent interview after EU Fanfest he said that they might consider doing it again if they can manage to balance tanks and healers properly. Which they won't anyway, but at least he left the possibility open.
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>>376757797
>uses a gap closer
>its a melee!
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>>376757773
Then why is the area of Othard so much larger? I think thats what he means.
>>
Anywhere I can watch Dad of Light subbed yet? You'd think it was recorded by now.
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>>376757797
RDM will be a caster with melee combos and notjumps. There is a distinct difference.
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>>376757870
what if SAM has a 5s GCDs but 1000 potency attacks to compensate
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>>376757803
>Network TV Drama
As long as it gets views then it's all good. At least it's not a 2AM moeblob anime that needs $100k worth of Bluray sales to have it considered a success.
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>>376757961
>huge open areas with a fat load of fucking nothing in them except roaming mobs and FATEs

Improvement.
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>>376757961
Because it's a whole continent, but we aren't getting the entire continent all at once. Just like we had the entire map of Eorzea available since 1.0, but aren't even getting Gyr Abania until Stormblood. And we still haven't seen Paglth'an, or Xelphatol outside of a dungeon, or the northern half of Vylbrand.
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>>376758065
You just described 3.0 zones too.
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>>376758049
>use skill
>prepare lunch
>use next skill
>eat lunch
>use final skill
>wash the dishes

Fuck no.
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>>376758049
Then they're going to be whining more than a BLM on any fight that requires movement at all.
>>
Why is everyone here so unoptimistic and a huge downer? I mean I know it's okay to not be overexcited and expect the worst but jeez you guys sound insufferable. I would hate to see how you guys talk to your FC or linkshells.
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>>376758105
And 3.0 zones sucked. They were larger than ARR, but that made it too big to travel on foot and too small to properly explore with flight. That plus aether currents gating your exploration behind fucking sidequests.
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>>376758207
they're trying to be contrarian cucks I'm hyped for stormsblood and /Ala Mhigger/
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>>376758193
i mean they can still attack while moving at least, or were you serious about them having a cast timer lmao
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>>376758049
what if they just gave SAM a caster stance.
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>>376758315
The video of SAM showed them using something with a cast time.
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>>376758283
>too big to travel on foot
Ahahahaah, you underaged faggots would shit your pants if you had to play EQ or FFXI.
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>>376758207
If you expect things, you're disappointed when they inevitably don't go the way you expected.

And whatever your expectations, SB will definitely not deliver, unless you're simple enough to just wish for more game, not a better game.
>>
How do you guys find what's BiS?
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>>376758358
it showed one skill doing it
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>>376758483
It was a combat skill, one too many. Very suspicious.
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>>376749381
I want to see what the rotations and gameplay for SAM/RDM are like but I'll probably do one or the other of those unless the SMN changes blow my pants off. They won't.
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>>376758460
does it have crit on it?
yes?
it's BiS
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>>376753094
If a dev withholds information of an expansion to a few weeks before release it's a sign that it's going to be shit. WoW managed to do just fine building up hype for Legion that didn't require them not saying shit and saying MUH LIMITATIONS PLEASE UNDERSTAND
>>
/v/ loves to shit on this game but I guarantee you that when the new live letter comes out there will be like 6 threads reaching the bump limit in one day
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>>376755863
Those are just generic anime cats.
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>>376758834
A real shame the game ended up being farm Maw of Souls M+'s and praying for BiS legendaries to be relevant and god help you if you're behind on AK
>>
I just finished HeavensWard as a WHM. I'm trying to learn how to tank by picking up DRK, but I feel exceptionally bad at not jusk DRK, but at tanking in general. Any advice?
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>>376758834
i think its mainly because the devs dont know what they are doing. blizzard has been doing this for over a decade
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>>376753003
I don't really follow WoW anymore so I didn't know they were getting an update soon but I'd believe it.

That's been Blizzard's MO for years.
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>>376757834
>about lore
>people play this game care about lore
>wanting to spend money on something that isnt marketable
>lore isn;t even that deep yet in comparison to Wow.
heh
it's your fault to get triggered easily.
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>>376758834
or they could still be tuning things since everything is still a work in progress and even the release date of the expansion is still "tentative". It hasn't gone gold yet.

I mean they're still testing the raids and how jobs handle things according to the director/producer himself. If something goes wrong they have the full power to adjust anything or worst case scenario delay the expansion.
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>>376757361
And they're going to take a 9month break after release.
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>>376758636
What about other secondary stats?
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>>376759193
Then you do what every other dev in history does and tell/show people that stuff is work in progress and tentative.
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>>376759276
>do this in HW, which had more content on release than SB
>game almost dies

Can't wait to see them pay for their idiocy.
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>>376759364
They already do this. The benchmark literally has a giant text in it says "NOT FINAL WORK IN PROGRESS"
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>>376759329
depends on job, some jobs have severe dependencies on sks breakpoints like WAR and DRG and I think BLM but I don't know shit about BLM
crit is just plain better than anything else in the vast majority of cases
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>>376757494
>>376757690
Dear God please no not this shit, why the fuck are they propagating this God damn it. Fuck cast bars on non-magic users. Going to return my pre-order if this is true.
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>>376753821
Then those people should be banned from content finders until their sprout hours have passed if they aren't grouped with a friend or FC member that will carry their asses.

They want to optionally pass by everything and play with their friends, fine. But playing with them should be optional on my end.
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>>376759468
So far it only looks like the one iaijutsu ability has a cast bar. The rest could be perfectly fine.
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>>376755757
Servers and stretching textures.

Please look forward to it.
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How the fuck do I git gud at BRD
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>>376759549
If the iaijutsu thing is off GCD so it feels like empyreal arrow SAM could feel fucking great
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>>376759442
Even the Heavensward job skill liveletter had it too. DRK used to have a flame aura for darkside in the job video but the flame was removed at release. I think BRDs sidewinder got a slight visual adjustment too.
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>>376756686
Doesn't help that their dev team seems to be like 5 people. Players asking for simple shit that wasn't pre-planned takes more than a year for it to come to fruition.
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The expansion has my curiosity piqued and I'm interested in actually getting into the game. That said what are some underrepresented classes in PvE? I have a personality flaw where I'm attracted to the least played classes in MMOs. Call it hipster syndrome if you will.
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>>376759450
BLM is a special case where it favors Spell Speed over Crit.
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>>376759995
Paladin, White Mage, and Monk are the worst atm.
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>>376759736
I think it would be cool if it worked like Cyan's Bushido in FFVI and changed the effect based on how long you charged. Like a certain amount of charge gave you a gap closer, another amount was a barrage attack, another was a guaranteed crit, an AoE, a debuff, etc.
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>>376759995
Machinist
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>>376760024
Latest stat weights have crit ahead of spell speed.
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>>376759995
MCH.

>>376760043
He asked for underrepesented, not worst jobs.
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>>376754658
make your own retard
hell, make it all slots open, who cares
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>>376759995
The problem is, PLD and MNK are the worst tank and DPS, but they're also the easiest to play so there really isn't room to shine on either of them
WHM is the worst healer currently but it could change pretty easily
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>>376757663
>The flaw in that possibility is that XV is out now and XIV hasn't got any less shit.

I would agree but SE seems to be treating XV as an early access full priced game. The kind of DLC they've announced, story and cutscene revamps, adding entire multiplayer functionality and whatever the fuck else is going to take significant time and money.

Just because its out doesn't mean XV has stopped being a money pit.
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>>376760189
Neat. Not dropping under 1200 sps though.
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>>376760198
>MCH
>underrepresented
the fuck?
every static in the game has a MCH
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>>376759995
Turns out the worst jobs right now are also the most boring to play. If you value your enjoyment you will gravitate towards the better jobs, but who knows what will change for the expansion.
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>>376759960
You can't really blame them. Yoshida been always asking that if you have MMO development expertise then send your application in.

The problem is that finding a programmer or server engineer that not only meets the job skills and experience but must also fluently speak Japanese, relocate to their Japan office, and work excruciating hours is like finding a hay in a needle stack.
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>>376760341
no they dont, some groups take bard instead. if theres any job thats probably in every static, its war or nin
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Post some reshade presets, I need a new one
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>>376760341
Even with it being meta, it still has the least people playing it of any DPS job.

PLD might be underrepresented, but if it is that's probably only because it's a tank and retards are scared of tanking.
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>>376760137
>>376760198
>>376760346
>>376760696
Thanks for the replies anons. I'm downloading the trial atm but it seems the Machninist is locked but I'll dick around with Paladin and Monk to see if I like them. I've got plenty of time to decide in any case!
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>>376760572
>cats walk like sluts with a butt plug up their asses 24/7

Why am I not surprised?
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>tfw buying overpriced fishing rods and rocks on market board for gc turn-ins instead of going to vesper bay
I'll never get over 2mil at this point, but I feel like there's no need. Hope you jews are happy.
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>>376759995
Most underrepresented in this order:
Tank > Healer > DPS

So pick a tank. Among the tanks, I think it's WAR > DRK > PLD. So go WAR.

For healers, probably SCH > AST > WHM. So go SCH.

For DPS, probably SMN > MCH > BLM > BRD > MNK > NIN > DRG, so play a gay mage or pseudo-mage.
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>>376758207
I would honestly be more hyped if there was more to be hyped about.

SAM and RDM both look cool and I'm excited for both but that's about all I can get excited for. We still don't know how jobs are changing (though that will change soon) we've only been told about one new dungeon, there doesn't seem to be any 'new' kind of content coming at SB launch. The amount of things they've cut and deconfirmed make it hard to get hyped.

>less zones
>2 jobs instead of 3
>no new race
>no new customization for old races
and other shit.

Another big factor of my hype for HW was the MSQ. It left on a huge cliffhanger that made me want to see what was coming next. Even though they fucked up that arc, it still helped me be hyped. They tied up everything too neatly in HW. All the arcs are basically closed with nothing to make me want to see what happens next. Dragonsong War is over (this arc ended well so I ain't mad), Warriors of Darkness are dead after one patch, Illberd is dead, Shinryu is unconscious or dead somewhere, the Lyse reveal was one of the least interesting and easy to see twists in fucking ages, it was called the second she was seen in the SB teaser like 8 months ago.

SE is failing on basically every level to hype me. If it weren't for the two new jobs I would have zero hype. I want to be excited but what is there to be excited for? Maybe this press tour they're going to start soon will change my mind, and I sincerely hope it does.
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>>376745769
Yes SB will be the best game of the year hands down. SE has learned a bunch from ARR and HW and they can only do better.
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>>376758207

I mean we have a daily thread that goes to cap in /v/ every day. Safe to say its a love/hate relationship.

>>376759995

If you plan to play in raids, most people expect a player to be capable of at least playing the multiple classes in the same role. Unlike other MMOs, the class-change system pretty much means that it's not as if you lose alot of effort picking a class you don't like.

In terms of snowflake value, I believe ranged dps (MCH/BRD) are probably consistently the class that people need while still being highly valued. Strangely enough, I would follow it up with DRG as well. For whatever reason, I see MNKs/NINs everywhere but none of them. Casters are oversaturated as shit.
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>>376761120
>Warriors of Darkness are dead after one patch
They served their purpose in explaining exactly what the Ascians are doing and why, and that Light is not any less dangerous than Dark.
>Shinryu is unconscious or dead somewhere
He's in the Interdimensional Rift
>the Lyse reveal was one of the least interesting and easy to see twists in fucking ages
I agree with this. It changed literally nothing. It wouldn't have many any difference if it was still Yda herself. It added nothing except to give some nonsensical "twist".
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>>376761120
I'm actually more excited for current jobs really. Everyone seems to forget that those will feel just as new and fresh at lvl 70 hopefully.
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>>376759423
I pray they learned from that lesson.

That was quite possibly the worst time to take a break.
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>>376761339
>most people expect a player to be capable of at least playing the multiple classes in the same role
>tfw this is me for nin and drg
>tfw play mch but refuse to play brd
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>>376761393
But it's gonna happen again. 9 months without content after SB hits.
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>>376759995
Tanks are the least played role and Paladin is the least played among them so that would be a good choice.

That or Machinist. Not sure which has a lower population total though. Probably machinist.
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>>376761471
>playing jobs you don't like just because they're the same role as your main
No thanks, PLD and DRK are boring as fuck. If I'm raiding as tank, it's WAR or nothing.
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>>376761120
I bet we're going to save Minfillia from the crystal sex prison she's in. That'll be how the gay ass fucking faggot Ascian's are still going to be tied in. They'll probably also be the ultimate evil or something behind the political turmoil in SB. But SB in general will probably just be self-contained political problems. With gay ass ascians shoe-horned in and scion fags shoe-horned as the ascian-stoppers. Is Elidibus dead or something? I haven't been paying attention to how many ascians there are or even anything about them. FUcking generic interdimensional pedophiles, yawn.
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>>376761393
Not only that
>3.1 finally hits
>Easy as shit void ark
>literally 5 minutes of main story
>thank you for waiting 5 months
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>>376761471
Melee get so fucked on sharing gear, it's bullshit
>all tanks get fending
>all healers get healing
>all casters get casting
>all ranged get aiming
>dude maiming striking and scouting LMAO
Why is Yoshi P such a cocksucker
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>>376761508
Source?
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>>376759442
So why are we going to be weeks from launch and still have seen nothing while all other mmo devs allow people to beta test everything? The whole reason balancing in this game is fucked is because they only do internal testing.
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>>376761625
>WAR calling DRK boring
>playing the dunce tank and calling the interesting one boring
EVERY TIME
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>>376761626
>I bet we're going to save Minfillia from the crystal sex prison she's in
She literally can not be saved. She was eaten. She's gone.
>They'll probably also be the ultimate evil or something behind the political turmoil in SB
Already confirmed that the Ascians are taking a back seat for this and that Garlemald has some other force behind their expansion.
>Is Elidibus dead or something?
No, he gave Ilberd the eyes. Lahabrea, Igeyorhm, and Nabriales are dead. There are 10 Overlords left and shitloads of nameless lackeys.
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>>376760341
>>376761085

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/5jc8yc/ffxiv_official_census_2016/

Percentage ratio of DPS: DRG and MNK - 14% (28% total), BRD - 15%, BLM - 16%, SMN - 20%, NIN - 12%, MCH - 8%
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>>376761750
WoW's whole PBE thing is fucking shit and I'm glad SE are going the complete opposite route.
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>>376761845
>NIN second to last
That's pretty surprising given it's probably overall the best DPS in the game, only beaten by MCH which is further behind
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>>376761864
Care to explain why?
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>>376761695
RIP inventory
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>>376754658
U L T R O S
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>>376761663
Not to mention
>Diadem
>a piece of content so bad they had to launch it twice and it was still terrible

3.1 is the worst patch this game has ever received and to get it that late because of their break made it even worse. The period of 3.0-3.2 nearly killed the fucking game.

Please look forward to Eureka :^)
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>>376761750

>The whole reason balancing in this game is fucked is because they only do internal testing.

FFXIV's balancing is stellar my dude what. You think WoW does anything with its PTR shit? Their class variance in dps went as far as 30% per fight, at most we have 10% between PLD and its counterparts and like 5% between any melee comp with MNK vs without.
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>>376761845
>NIN in least categories
Is mudra that scary? I forgot how casual this game's playerbase is. It all makes sense now.
>MCH not picked because rng abilities requires too much attention from netflix retards.
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I bought the game considering to get into it for the new expansion but it really wears me out. I usually love leveling in MMOs but teleporting back and forth between zones where some idiot NPC is going to tell me something for me to tell the other guy in the next zone for literal hours is killing me. Currently level 50 and stuck in the middle of one of these seemingly endless errand runs from "cutscene" to "cutscene" when I just want to kill mobs for XP.

When I actually get to play I like it though.
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>>376761626
The expansion MSQ will literally be:

>Garleans are based and want to destroy eikons and save the world, but Eorzea and the fucking beastmen will have none of it

Man, I hate Yoshi's idea of plot sometimes. He has a great antagonist like Gaius and instead of capitalizing on the Empire not being cartoon evil for fucking once he decides that this is a bad thing and makes the Imperial in charge of Ala Mhigo a puppy-eater villain guy because the player is NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE EMPIRE.
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>>376761989
NIN isn't known for damage, and no one wants to play support where you have to actually be mindful of other people. Also support is gay.
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>>376762029
It barely fixes balance, and it spoils everything weeks or months before release. Literally why would you want to go into an expansion knowing everything about the zones, dungeons and boss fights?
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STOP USING MOON STANCE WHEN YOU HAVE A SCH IN THE PARTY YOU FUCKING STAR OBSESSED WEIRDOS
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>>376762062
>SPriest was about 30% ahead of second place in DPS for a year
>Unholy has been in last place for all of legion despite having 0 mobility and CC and still being the most dependent class on legendaries
Good shit good shit
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>>376762112
It's like you don't know a fucking thing about what Garlemald does. Eorzea would not fucking have primals if Garlemald wasn't sitting on the border throwing threats of genocide at them. And did you forget about the whole fucking Dalamud thing they caused? The current Emperor doesn't even want to kill primals anymore, he wants to weaponize them.
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>>376762094
>Waking Sands part of the MSQ
Fucking kill me why did you have to remind me of that shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULRTwOMwLoA
This song is too ironic I wonder if it was a little joke.
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>>376762094
It gets better in Heavensward
a little
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>>376761989
>>376762064

As a 2.4 class, it's not half bad at all. Casuals tend to just level the roles they got first and only that. Casters definitely are oversaturated though. My alt is a caster and there's always a fucking caster in every PF and raid.

MCH had terrible stigma from 3.0, and most 2.x BRD players were dogshit who moved on to MNK or something.
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>>376762296
When does Heavensward start? I watched this gay ass cutscene and the credits rolled but I don't think I've gotten to the new story yet just running from zone to zone like a chump.
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>>376762094
If you don't report to Minfilia in Waking Sands... then who will?
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>>376762421
What quest are you on? You get credits after Ultima Weapon and I think you get credits again before Heavansward starts.
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>>376757690
>It's going to be a melee caster 100%. Enjoy them constantly dying to easily dodgeable shit.
holy shit

dodging shit was the most fun I ever had when playing BLM

if this is true I'll definitely go SAM
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>>376756143
That's infinitely more than WoW, the highest grossing MMO in history.

Glad to see that ARR is doing such a fantastic job at making the highest grossing MMO btfo. Truly a great game.
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>>376762617

Watch them get a phys reflect cd and stand in every physical aoe.
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>>376762186
Its optional to spoil things for yourself. Some people like knowing information beforehand, especially not lore related things.
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>>376762617
ayy it's a BLM that appreciates the intricacies of his job instead of a BLM that cries like a bitch when he has to think
good on you man
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>>376761695
>All casters do the same damage
>DUDE BLUNT/PIERCE/SLASH LOL
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>>376762583
Got three MSQs atm: Better Late than Sever, Rock-solid Protection and Crate Go Kaboom.
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>>376752524
This is why I'm glad that SE doesn't allow addons.

I remember in WoW every retard would have interfaces like that, and they'd expect everyone else to have something similar.
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>>376757870
>SAM is going to be like BRD with all their attacks having cast bars.
That better just be off-GCD shit.
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>>376762681
It's going to be a DPS with parry-tanking ability calling it now. 7 Sam 1 Ast burns tanks getting cucked going to have to suck themselves off in full tank parties lmao.
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>>376762803
>casters can sprint at will
>jobs that need to actually close caps can't because DUDE TP XD
THANK YOU YOSHI
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>>376761349
The warriors of darkness were the only people shown to be able to match the warrior of light so getting rid of them was super stupid.
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>>376745769
im glad you posted this
ive spent the past 3 days running the level 50 MSQs and want to kill myself from how much fetch quest fuckery is involved.
i must have walked back and forth to waking sands 100+ fucking times
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>>376763084
welcome to the hell that is 2.1-2.5
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>>376762727
I'll even go a step further and say that BLM is the most fun mage I've played in any MMORPG
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>>376762954
Did you miss the news? Sprint no longer costs TP in 4.0.
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>tfw can't join Zurvan Ex clear parties because everyone wants i260+ and can't form your own because you're DPS and also have to compete with the 4 other PFs already up
What is this cancer?
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>>376763393
Neat, it only took Yoshi P a few years to care about TP users
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>>376763084
The story is absolute garbage too until the last 20% or so of that shit.
I really don't even understand what it accomplished by requiring so much boring fetch-questery to even enter heavensward. They could completely overhaul that shit to be back to back fights and cutscenes and nothing would be lost.
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>>376763472
NA, lol.
Had the same issue when I was gearing my DRG alt, so I wound up just joining clear parties because Aether is too retarded and thinks that padding out their members' ilevels will fix their horrible play. Was around min ilevel for Zurvex and was consistently top or 2nd place for DPS, too.
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>>376763621
Yeah I'm on Aether. Damn it all, is this how Yoshi forces us to tome grind down to our last breath?
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Im about to finally finish the lv50 story nonsense and unlock Heavensward, I think.
Should I just POTD to 60? Is there some way to welfare my way to passable gear?
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Time to unsub!


>can't farm light
I was that healer many posts ago.

>Frontline
Still for utter faggots and retards and bots, one team always steamrolls

Nothing else to do because I dont want to level another class and Im fine with my 4 lv60s

Birb farms now are full of wanting to carry retards and no tight FCs are recruiting as far as I see (unless there's a good place/website you can suggest).

Any good FPS or other games to go play right now?
I'm glad I didn't preorder Stormblood.
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>>376759450
What about SMN? I know they favor Crit over Spell Speed, but do they favor Spell Speed over Determination?
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>>376763878
Summoner w/ Garuda – No book smacking:

WD: 11.835
INT: 1.000
DET: 0.192
CRT: 0.287
SS: 0.195
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>>376763751
Poetics can buy i120 gear and items that give +i10 to the gear. But the only way you'd get tomes for this fastest is if you could do all extra dungeons in ARR, and the queues'll take years if you're not tank/healer. So if you're DPS, just PoTD all the way to 60 while doing leveling/trials/guildhest roulette, and MSQ roulette until you're lv54 maybe. HW dungeons are shit anyways except the Vault and Gubal library (57 and 59) so you're not missing much.

I'm not sure if PoTD gives you armor too, I only know it gives a weapon. So when you get to Ishgard make sure to do the daily and weekly Clan Hunts. The seals let you buy i200/i210 gear from the tavern near where you pick up the Clan Hunt papers.
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>>376763838
ive been playing a lot of titanfall 2 while i wait for stormblood
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>>376763751
Just do the Heavensward story. You can't unlock anything at 60 without it. They've buffed the xp so it will get you to 60 guaranteed.
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>>376762583
Why do I have to do a level 35 dungeon I've already done now at level 50? I don't get this darn game.
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>>376763986
So Spell Speed > Determination, thanks
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>>376763878
You want to reach a spell speed threshold so you can fit a certain amount of Ruin 3s within DWT.
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>>376762189
But the fates decree FUCK YOUR CRIT SHIELDS TAKE MY SHITTY ONES INSTEAD
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>>376764147
Know what that is, by any chance?
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>>376764071
You have to do literal days worth of irrelevant fetch quest horseshit before you actually get to Heavensward.

Heavensward story is thankfully much better paced and not nearly as fetchy, but prepare for unmatched boredom on the way there.
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>>376764261
What the fuck. I'm going to be live level 52 or something with max rested too which means I can't really quest just have to run from MSQ cutscene to cutscene. Don't think this game is for me.
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>>376764214
Iirc 750? I know it's above 650 at the very least.
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>>376764261
Funny that now people are complaining that Heavensward patches didn't have enough story quests. Some of them are even in this fucking thread.
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>>376764071
Because vertical progression MMOs kill off old content, so Yoshi has to find a way to shoe-horn that garbage in for newer players' queue times.
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>>376764432
Not anymore.

JUMP POTIONS
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>>376764351
I remember some nigga said he entered HW at level 55 lmao. You might wanna just try skipping a bunch of MSQ cutscenes to save time. ARR storyline is not memorable anyways, so just watch the last few that lead into HW.
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>>376764351
From the point at which you are, it'll be about 20 hours or so of quests, then you're at HW.
I did them recently, and the queues for trials/dungeons weren't too bad.
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>>376764261
>>376764432
Oh and this new Waking sands place is full of "new content" quests that I assume are for dungeons. Should I bother with them?
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>>376764570
nah dont do anything except for the story icon quests
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/quest/?category2=0&page=1&category3=2

pretty much go through these 2 pages and youre done
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>>376764570
They're only extreme primals as far as I remember. Might be one dungeon in there, but it's not an MSQ dungeon and since it's really old the ilvl will be low and not worth the time probably.
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>Tfw I finally got my Bear mount
Now nothing can stop me.
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>>376764685
He means the bar in Mor Dhona. There are a shitload of level 50 dungeons unlocked there.
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>>376764360
Alright, thanks. I'm at 250 and I'm wanting to attack h materia so some of my Shire and Ultima stuff that I have, but I don't wanna lose it if I find something better, you know?
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>>376764726
>mfw the bear mount can't go underwater
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>>376764351
>>376764550

I entered at level 51 and a half. Skipped every single cutscene and still don't know what the fuck happened at the end of ARR. I hope FFXIV dies the death it deserves for such incompetence.
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>>376764570
>>376764684
>>376764685
Of course you should do dungeons. They're not fetch quests, most of them are at least decent, and they unlock 50 roulette. You can't go straight from 50-60 (or even 55-60) straight off story quests, you need to do side quests/dungeons/PotD to fill in the gaps and the bonus XP from 50 roulette is great.
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>>376764797
Same deal I think. All old and useless ARR shit, except maybe one level 60 dungeon?
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>>376764884
It's alright, it's my dedicated Terrestrial mount.
My flying mount is Logistics system.
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>>376749381
Probably samurai. I've already played the shit out of everything else. I'm not digging this rapier wand thing going on with Red Mage, would rather just use a rapier
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>>376764974
the guy said he was like 52 already
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So I'm level 43; what's the quickest way to get a mount that isn't a chocobo and doesn't involve a cash shop?
Also jesus christ is there a way to turn this mount music off
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I got the basic gist of POTD, but whats the optimal way to level with it?
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>>376765056
There's a check box near the top of sound settings.
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>>376765056
In the character settings or something, turn off mount music
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>>376765056
If you're a WHM, there's a unicorn mount you can get. Otherwise, you get the magitek armor mount after the level 50 story quest.
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>>376765141
>>376765182
Oh, thanks. The music was cool the first two times, now I want to shoot myself every time I hear DO- DO- DO DOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>376765056
>what's the quickest way to get a mount that isn't a chocobo and doesn't involve a cash shop
veteran rewards, grinding forever, or the welfare mounts MSQ gives you
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>>376765047
And that's not enough to hit 60 from just story quests.
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>there are casters who don't exclusively ride the broomstick mount

Purge
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>>376757403

>Reliable monthly income
>Implying SE doesn't siphon 14's funds like fuck

How else do you explain why it takes them forever to add basic QoL features?
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>>376746610
There's more jobs? I thought it was RDM and SAM?
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>>376765056
You need to get your first chocobo to even ride mounts, broseph. Otherwise for free mount options you can do the story until you get magitek armor, midgardsormr, mana clipper, etc. Most of the mounts are drops, achievements, events, or from doing side content like gold saucer.
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>>376765224
Different mounts have different music. So don't forget to turn it back on once you get a new one.
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>>376765302
Magic

CHAIR
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>>376765315
This.
ARR saved SE from going under after the 1.0 disaster, and now SE is selling the medication that saved its life on the side.
>2 jobs instead of 3
> 2 dungeons instead of 3
>more timegating in dungeons than ever in ARR, not counting KotL and WP hard
>CASH SHOP EMOTES that are unobtainable in game
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>>376762156
To be fair, you hardly do any supporting on brd/mch in a static unless your healers are just super dogshit and need mp or people suck and die
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I wanna see crafter/gatherer AF3 already so I can be disappointed at how they're all still vastly inferior to the AF1s
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>>376764857
I guess so? That spell speed is really fucking low
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>>376765404
DNC and BLU were confirmed
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>>376765215
>WHM
SCH master race. Was hoping for something more with four legs like a horse but anything is better than a giant chicken at this point.
>>376765280
Assumed as much, hoping I was wrong. Seems I'll just wait until MSQ throws me a new one, then
>>376765419
Hopefully they're not as obnoxious as the chocobo one
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>>376765056
company chocobo is the best mount fag
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>>376765612
>hurting my feelings with lies
why
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>>376765627
If you want an actual horse you need to win 100 frontline pvp matches.
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>>376765612
Noice, thanks. Haven't followed it at all since the SAM announcement, thanks.
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>>376765612
>source: my ass
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>>376765627
You can start doing beast tribe quests around your level. Amalj'aa give a drake mount, Sahagin give a barracuda with legs, the Sylph give a goobbue, Kobolds give a floating chair held up by bombs, and the Ixal give a wolf.
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>>376765628
ur mum is the best moutn and by that i mean i put my penis in her vajina for sexeul intercourse
>>376765612
I'm still disappointed that SAM is a thing personally; just as a concept it's so unbelievably uninteresting. Would kill for BLU to replace it
>>376765728
I'll look into it later, I do like PvP even if this game's is presumably garbage
>>376765770
Any idea how long those would take?
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>>376765598
I'm attaching Crit materia, not SS. Not sure what else to use. Int? Piety?
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>>376765832
>Any idea how long those would take?
Depends on how you split them up. Pretty sure if you just focus one at a time, it's maybe a few weeks.
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>>376765832
Fuck you anon. That company Chocobo has been with you forever and been a loyal companion. How dare you ditch it.

But in all seriousness, you could also customize your chocobo. You can change it's skin color or barding to your heart's content until it looks cool.
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>>376765832
no, company choco is the best mount
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>>376765832
PvP was fun for the period of time the garo event brought a bunch of people in, but its probably gonna go back to being fairly dead soon
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>That night SAM was confirmed DPS

Best night
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so where is that SB-area media tour thing?
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>>376765281
There's potd for that shit.
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>>376765861
It's just secondary stats for SMN. Crit, then SpS /Det
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>>376765924
Ehh... Maybe later.
>>376766043
>>376766058
Yeah was going to get around to customization eventually
>>376766097
I assume SB would revive PvP if nothing else
tfw so many (You)s and I feel like a dick if I don't respond to all of them
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>>376766097
>PvP was fun for the period of time the garo event brought a bunch of people in
Fuck no.
It brought a bunch of literal retards who don't even know left from right and disregarded any level of leadership for "muh fuck around".
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>PUGs fail at A1S
>PUGs fail at A9S
>PUGs fail at EX farms and nothing drops
>PUGs fail at PvP
>PUGs queue for annoying shit I don't want to put up with while doing my roulette
Release me from this hell!
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>BRD has a macro for dying
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>>376766097
PvP hasn't been fun since early 50s frontlines, not sure why they wont just bump secure up to 60
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>>376766431
Armchair leadership is the worst. Had someone in my FC constantly going on and on about how no one would listen to them. They even went as far as to say that they'd be the key to the team's overall victory.
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>>376766446
>tfw returning/new player
>grinding through painful long annoying story dungeons
>feel bad for fucking up peoples queue

sorry dawg
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does /v/ like lizard tanks?
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>>376766156
If you mean the leaked zone preview video, every upload of it I knew about was nuked and I haven't seen a new one lately.
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>>376766864

/v/ hates /vg/ avatarfags
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>>376766632
I did say any level.
Simply indicating the next objective spawn is too hard for those retards to understand for example.
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>>376766864
Fuck off, you're the reason we're /vg/ refugees in the first place
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>>376767050
>>376767008
just answer the question
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>/v/ is spammed with generals
>/vg/ is made as a result
>/v/ is absolute garbage and shitposts EVERY thread to death (usually /pol/ or contrarians parroting shitposts to fit into le epic /v/ culture)
>/vg/ is generally just attention whoring, waifu garbage, ERPing and/or drama
>Essentially make a new /ffxivg/ on /v/
>It's one of the highest quality, on-topic threads on /v/ period
What the fuck even happened
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>>376767459
Go ask /vg/, you fucking degenerate.
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>>376767459
Fuck.
Off.
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>>376767646
>>376767692
i'll leave when you answer
or when i get bored
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>tfw ready to bot FATES 50-60 on my SAM when Early access drops

ez pz
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>>376767692
stop giving these fucks attention and an excuse to post more stupid shit, its why /vg/ is filled with so many of these cookie cutter 1 dimensional faggots
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>>376767896
>not playing a job you already have at 60 then playing RDM and SAM when the rush dies down
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>want to play RDM, BLM, SAM, PLD, and DRK in SB

I'm gonna have to make some choices I ain't gonna have time for all this shit
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>>376767907
To be fair in /vg/ it's actually encouraged whereas nobody really tolerates it here since that's the reason we're here in the first place.
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>>376767775
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>>376768028
RDM: Probably braindead
BLM: Braindead
PLD: Most braindead of them all
SAM: Boring design, probably braindead
DRK: Don't know enough about them personally
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>>376768120
lmao saved
wanna eb?
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>>376745897
o/
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>>376766864
>Be tank
>Dont wear armor

What did you mean by this?
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>>376767896
Do bots even exist for this game anymore besides sketchy Chinese sites that expect you to pay a monthly subscription and install a rootkit on your computer so they can make sure you're not stealing their bot? XI and XIV used to have a pretty robust 3rd-party tool community, but most of it vanished from the face of the Earth a couple years back.
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>>376768329
Rebornbuddy works just fine.
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>>376767568
/vg/ is where the cancer is at. It's a containment board. The only time discussion is had is right after an expansion and it quickly devolves to the same cancerous shit it was before. So people who want to talk about a game but don't want to deal with a thread that will shut down discussions in favor of drama and waifu posting will go to /v/ and start one. It's why game that has a general has discussions on /v/.
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>>376765302
I love the broomstick mount cause for some reason it feels like it moves faster.
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>>376768245
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>>376768325
but i do wear armor sometimes
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>>376768453
I know but I'm surprised given how awful /v/ is that children didn't shit it up yet
>playing mmos
>playing this casual chinkshit garbage
>muh sjws
>omg boobies XD
>playing reddit shit
>gtfo back to vg
etc
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>>376768245
>>376768120
>>376768548
>>376768541


The neckbeards who erp with other emotional damaged 400 pounds neets are here. Time to either abandon the thread or have a jan come in and ban these autists.
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>>376768626
The thread's almost at bump limit so it's almost over. But why the fuck do people respond to faggots like this? They thrive on attention you fucking retards.
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>>376768626
Stop giving them attention, report and ignore.
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>>376768624
You spoke too soon. /vg/ has invaded this thread and are spamming right now.
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>>376768746
It's two autists, see: >>376768687
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>>376765302
But ACN/SMN seem too refined to waste aether animating a fucking broom to ride around on.

Giant Carbuncle mounts when
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>>376768675
and the attention makes everyone angry and it's funny so thats why im here posting my old character
content drought OP
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SCH here, can somebody explain to me what the fuck an AST even does? I get WHMs are generic MMO healer, but all I really understand about AST is "dude rng and cards lol"
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>>376766864
that glamour screams shitter
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>>376768881
Their heals seem pretty potent. Running A12N with two ASTs was great. Everything fucked up when I had a SCH or WHM. Plus, Balance will make your DPS wet.
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>>376768881
They have a regen stance and a shield stance, so they can fill the role of either WHM or SCH. They draw cards and can sacrifice a card for a buff on their next card, either enhancement, extended time, or making it an AoE. Usually they're fishing for an enhanced or spread Balance.
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>>376768687
This. Report all avatarfags and ignore them.
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>>376768847
nobody's mad, you're just shitting up the thread for everyone. Why don't you just go back to /vg/ if you want ERPing and circlejerking
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>>376766864
lizards are only good for tanking cock, so yeah. /v/ is just tsun for lizards.
>>
Aside from farming Dung Scaith and sucking dick to run Alex Savage, what should a nigga do to gear up after weekly scrip cap?
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>>376768881
>Whip out a buff card
>Can boost TP, MP, damage, speed, defense or cooldown rate of one person
>Can flip the card to try again
>Can sacrifice the card to get a buff on the next card such as higher potency, duration, or making it an AoE to the whole party
>Most cardplay revolves around flipping them until you create an AoE damage boost card because its objectively the best
>Speed is okay too I guess but not ideal, better if you have black mages and bards/mch

The stances they get give two of their skills either a regen or a bubble so they can fill in for either role, albeit less efficiently. Or at least thats how it was supposed to sound until Yoshi made them completely replace WHM and almost rival SCH in mitigation potential.
>>
>>376768881
It gets one stance that gives it lesser versions of SCH shields, and another that makes it more like WHM with stronger heals/HoT. It has a bunch of cards it can pull with its card ability; most of them are crap/situational, but then there's Balance which increases damage you deal by 20% for 30 seconds. This can be swapped to an AoE buff using a second ability, giving everyone +10% damage for 30 seconds. The AST also gets another cooldown that will extend the next buff they use by 15 seconds.
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>>376769278
Diadem hands out ilvl 265 gear like candy and there's no weekly or daily cap.
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>>376770087
>Implying diadem isn't diaded
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>>376770130
Takes less than 5 mins to get in as a tank or healer on Primal.

You could also *gasp* bring some fucking friends or FC mates.
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only 2 days left until sub die.
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Anyone new here that's interested in a recruit-a-friend code for exclusive stuff?
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>>376770345
If he had friends or FC mates why wouldn't he just do alex?
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>>376769306
The retarded balance buff is why they replaced whm. Their personal dps and diurnal sect isn't as strong as a whm's
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>>376745769
Fuck of XV-kun your game is Garbage
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>>376770872
Even at 10% they're better than WHM because Yoshi said Gordias was a mistake. In the future we wont be having retarded healer or DPS checks.
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>>376770345
>*gasp*

Primalfags are the worst.
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>last patch's raid gear won't get you into the next raid
This has to stop
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>>376771259
Yes it will what are you talking about?
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>>376758207
Because XIV has been around in some form for 6 years. The longer you've been/stayed with the game the more times Yoshi's fucked you over.
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>FFXIV cutting off PS3 and focusing on moar graphix
>still taking a beating from a Wii game
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>>376771259
>last patch's raid gear won't get you into the next raid
>only method to obtain highest level weapon for the patch
really activates my almonds
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>Tfw you're in a FC that will autistically defend SE and the devs with whatever choice they do
>Defend Jump Potions
>Defend the horrible grind that is MSQ
>Defend PotD being the default king in leveling for DPS
>Said if you don't like PotD just do FATEs
Do these people have any capability in being critical? Having to alternate between PotD or FATE/Dungeon grinding is pretty fucking shit even with the armory bonus. No one even does FATEs and some of them are just flat-out impossible to solo. I'm just wondering why leveling via PvP isn't a fucking thing.
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>>376758419
All I wish for is more dailies and dungeons to run with my RDM and SAM. If they give the same amount of content from HW I will be 100% satisfied, and if they give even the tiniest bit more content this will be the best game of the year hands down.
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>>376758419
But wallowing in your own negativity isn't any better or change the fact that it's gunna be shit?
At that point you might as well just quit the game already. It sound like you're intentionally torture yourself anon.
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>>376771756
>Defend PotD being the default king in leveling for DPS
Gee, I wonder how people leveld before PotD.
Oh wait!
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>>376771482
Or to compound it further, you also played XI for years and have gotten fucked by SE so much you periodically search the item databases to see if you can find accessories with +lube on them.
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>>376771756
>No one even does FATEs

If they buffed the xp people might do them.

>hw launch
>people running around doing all the new fates
>give just as much xp as northern thanalan fates
>significantly more difficult

Pretty damn funny seeing hordes of people grinding north than fates to like... 54 back when HW came out.

I'd just be happy if they scaled the challenge log to 60 or 70. Right now its still scaled to 50 and was never increased.
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>>376771924
Yeah, hell on earth. I remember doing FATE zerg back on release. Was pretty fun but I was told they increase the hp on the mobs since? On top of that they just don't give enough exp to be worth soloing at all. I can count the amount of times I've seen a FATE grinding group on 1 hand in my 1 month of playing.
>>376772083
Game seems to be heading directly into the incompetent devs -> cash-grab situation.
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>>376771835
I have no hope for this game left, but like most anon here, they are trapped and have no purpose left outside mmo. complaining is the only way to vent stress and hope that it will change in vain.
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>>376772252
I gave up on FFXIV but I'm waiting to see how Ashes of Creation pans out before I walk away from MMOs forever. My tolerance for bullshit is very low after decades of decrease in quality in video games. Casuals are the only thing keeping this industry alive and it pretty much killed it. Good for the devs who want money and are willing to make the next casual sensation but horrible for the hobby that used to be vidya.
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>>376772469
>Ashes of Creation
pyramid scheme, DoA just like every other kikestarter 'MMO'
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>>376772679
I'm 99% sure because of how much attention it has gotten and how supportive everyone is. I saw the alpha footage and the animations looked fucking horrible and since the release date is 2020 I'm sure it'll die in development but I'm masochistic so I'm waiting until I see the bumps on the road start to form aside from the kikery that has already happened.
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>tfw /v/ taking game too seriously is not a meme
I dont want to be here anymore. but I keep going back
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