What went wrong? How could they possibly fix this game?

>>376726407

>phone posters

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You don't and play Squad instead

>>376726407
What do you mean, "what went wrong"? The game is really fun. Sure they have some stuff to fix but I'm very happy with my investment in it.

>>376726519
I plan to, as soon as there's another sale

>>376726407
Game is good, but Tripwire as people are a bunch of fucking mongs. Prove me wrong.

>>376726519
They can coexist. Different strokes for different folks.

I wish I wasn't able to see the objectives all the time through the terrain. I liked how in Rising Storm 1 all you could see was the kill feed unless you press tac view.

>>376726407
Shitters like you jacking helicopters and not resupplying MGs. Once the fags who are there to play knockoff Battlefield are gone, this game will be GOAT.

>>376726656
That was only on certain difficulties wasn't it? Right now there's only one in RS2. Once realism and stuff hits I think it'll be the same.

>>376726407
Make versions of the supremacy maps as normal attack/defend maps. I would love to attack a bigger version of C on AnLao in a game. Other than that the game is good, except for that possible memory leak.

Something went wrong? Or it's early floor cucks still mad?

>>376726656
it probably all just stuff that servers can configure, as in red orchestra

>>376726793
I like the game, except for the devs hogging some customisation options for themselves.

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>>376726614
I can't prove you wrong but I can prove you right.

>banned for 1 month for asking why they used UE3 instead of UE4

>>376726793
I'm really enjoying it.

how to get beta keys?

>>376726519
>not playing both alongside Project Reality and ARMA
Though I wish Squad would get some kind of Vietnam minimod like PR did.

>>376727786
word it differently next time anon. normies don't like sarcastic passive aggressive remarks

should have worded it something like
>was there a reason you guys used UE3 instead of UE4?

>>376726519
Both are great

So far its fucking fun

>>376727786
why use UE4? give me a good reason.

>>376729672
its not UE3

UE3 is fucking dogshit and is partially why RO2 had so many problems on launch

why play an arena shooter posing as a military fps? simcade garbage trying to trick people with a vietnam reskin

>>376730064
lol, you have no reason okay.

>>376726407
>What went wrong?
Helicopters barely change the game. At best they're overpowered and un-fun to play against, at worst they just add crashing noises every 90 seconds.
Poor optimization and disgusting visuals at lower settings. Some maps look really bad and the crappy Unreal 3 AA is partly to blame.
Barebones customization. The number of options is surprisingly low, I don't see them improving this much before launch. Obvious added to milk some extra money from the people who care about this kind of thing.
Limited map pool. Made worse by splitting them between two separate game-modes.

They just have no idea what to do with the game beyond infantry combat. I won't be surprised if 6 months after release most servers just stuck to Territories and ignore the new game-mode.

If you enjoyed RO2/RS1 you'll probably enjoy this since it's the same core game once again, especially if you are into of the setting. If you were hoping for worthwhile changes to the forumla then you'll probably be at least a little bit disappointed.

This game is dead within a month of release ubisoft tier.

maps too small, player movement too fast, what the fuck is this game trying to be?

>>376730159
Because it's fun_____________________________________________

>>376730216
>"if I say it enough, it'll become reality!!!!1"

>>376726560
This, it's a good game. Gunplay makes it worth it alone, and it's only 25$ CAD for petes sake.

The game is fun as fuck, I've already put 15 hours into and it's not even out yet. Also, supremacy mode is the greatest addition to the series so far.

>>376727786
>be passive aggressive on developer forums
>surprised when banned
Oh Jesus Christ I cannot believe they banned him for this, I am boycotting Tripwire now because this means all their games are bad.

>>376730216
Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm still has a consistent player base and that game is a lot worse.

>>376730216
Why is Rising Storm and Red Orchestra 2 still more than alive then?

>micro penis sized maps
>Dead /v/ threads
>Mass bannings on steam forums
>TF2 style costmetics
>Tripwire
>Literally a paid mod
>not a red orchestra game
>floaty gunplay
>We want the COD kiddie audience
How about you fuck off shillberg

>>376726407
Anyone know if beta rank will carry over to full game?

>>376731059
>TF2 style cosmetics
stopped there, you clearly haven't played the game.

Another insurgency reskin for brain dead simcade toddlers. Ill pass.

>>376731281
DUDE! Rick and Morty patches! EPIC FOR THE WEED DUDE.

Anyone else keep getting crashes? the game runs beautifully at 70+ fps on my toaster but it just seems to sporadically crash

>>376731291
lmao rising storm and red orchestra were around way before insurgency was even conceptualized

>>376729672
>why use source instead of goldsrc xd
>why use frostbite 3 instead of frostbite 2 xd
>why use cryengine V instead of cryengine 1-4
Brain damage?

>>376731117
It won't.
>>376731395
Nigga what
>>376730963
What are you talking about you fucking mong. It's not a reason for a ban.

>>376731561
There is a massive difference between those engines. There is no difference that the average user can see from UE3 to 4. Cry about it all you want but there isnt.

>>376726519
I'm kinda interested - does it play more like Red Orchestra or ARMA in terms of sim style - if its pretend realism like red orchestra then I might give it a go

>>376731558
Red Orchestra release: 2006
Insurgency mod for HL2: 2007
While you are right, it wasn't "way before".

>>376731579
I don't give a fuck if they ban someone on their own forums for whatever reason, I'm still going to play their games because they're fun. Maybe that person should have though that maybe it's not the best idea to insult the developers on their forums.

>>376731786
dude, you know red orchestra existed years before 2006 as a mod?

>>376726407
listen homo....

this is basically RO2 all over again.
We know tripwire's shit's always bugged/unbalanced at release, but that didn't stop RO2 from becoming literally the best mp shooter out there.

>>376731972
That still doesn't put it anywhere near "WAY BEFORE insurgency was even CONCEPTUALIZED" considering Insurgency was in development since 2004.

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>>376732041
>but that didn't stop RO2 from becoming literally the best mp shooter out there.
How can it be the best if no one plays it?

>>376732357
couple months ago i still found full servers though. no problems.

also shit's old.
try finding a full UT3 server.

>>376732357
bs, I just came from a full server
and it's rising storm beta right now, yet people still play ro over it

>>376732710
>>376732507
>people think having a couple of full servers means the game is alive
lmao
Since you seem to take everything literally, the "no one" was hyperbole. I'm sure you got like 300 people playing the game.
But guess, what that number is trash and the game is dead.

>>376732817
That misplaced comma makes me look like I'm having a stroke.
Move that bitch after "what" instead of "guess".

>>376726748
Yeah that's what I'm hoping for. I went through the server filter and didn't find any realism stuff. Must be in the final game I'm assuming.

>>376726407
For the love of god revert back to how squad leader worked in RO2. Too many times I've seen totally oblivious people not notice they got picked or promoted to one.

>>376726407
>download (9)

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>>376732817
>a game is only good if lots of people play it

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>>376732817
>find a server
>play

That's all that matters. I don't care if the player base is 300 or 70 or 6000000 as long as I can play.

>>376733304
Every time you spawn it flashes with big text saying YOU ARE THE SQUAD LEADER

if people are missing it then they're the problem, not the game

>>376733830
That anon just hates fun. Ignore him and get back on the battlefield.


Who else radio man for life?

>>376726407
it's a great game, sadly i think i played the beta so much, i can't justify purchasing it, feels like it lacks the same longevity potential as RO2 & RS for some reason

>>376732357
>no one plays it

At any given time there's like five full 64 player servers up and it's been like that for years. The game is dead when it's an ordeal to actually find a full match not when there's one whenever I feel like playing.

>>376734160
>if people are missing it then they're the problem, not the game

Taken something completely integral to your team's victory that you once had to select out of your own free will and change it so it can now land on any dumbass who isn't paying attention is a problem with the game. You're just increasing the chance of getting a shitty SL tenfold now with this new change.

>>376732261
The whole point was that RO isn't a ripoff of insurgency and vice versa. They are completely different games other than the faux-realistic combat.

>>376731638
Are you actually retarded?

>>376731721
It's kind of in-between them but closer to RO.

Squad is the most vidya fun I've had in years.

>>376730193
pretty fair assessment overall.

>>376734170
Is radio man actually any fun? It sounds like all you ever do is stay close to the commander and hope he knows what he's doing.

>>376734202
is it perhaps the small number of maps that is dissuading you from purchasing?

>>376735191
majority of the time the commander doesnt need the radioman and I just tel them to fuck off to the front and be a smoke thrower

>>376731721
I'd put Squad a bit above Red Orchestra in terms of sim style since there's much more communication and coordination required in Squad. The overall pacing is very different as well, in a sense, it appeals to a different demographic than RO/RO2/RS2.

>>376730064

You're a fuckwit. UE3 is great. It has been around for ages. It's a tried tool that is easy to use. Games on it are also easy to port. The combination of its performance and available material is second only to Id tech "X".

The reason trip used ue3 and not 4. Is because they won the licence up to unreal 3. (Back during mod days) If they'd chosen 4. That would include licensing fees. Besides ue4 is non charred territory. Good luck being the pioneer.

>Inb4 UE3 is shit.

Cockeyed and clawfingered devs.

>>376736420

>The reason trip used ue3 and not 4. Is because they won the licence up to unreal 3

Actually it was because they have a ton of existing tools for UE3 and it was easier to use that again than develop all new tools for UE4

>>376726656
You can turn that off in the settings, also you're thinking of "hardcore" setting on RS1

>>376731059
>>376731281
>micro penis sized maps
stopped there. Did you only play in skirmish mode?

It's pretty fun but the soundd needs a lot of wrok 2bh, the soundscape of the maps also seems a bit quiet, waterfalls that don't make a sound, no twigs etc snapping underfoot, very sparse wildlife sounds

>>376737063
Good point. I'd be walking near a river and I never once heard it move as though water was actually running.

>>376737063
The entire sound department needs to get lynched.

>Guns sound fucking flat and weak
>Guns wll have different firing noises between full-auto / semi
>Very little ambient sound
>Grenade impacting noises have no direction, so you have no idea whether the grenade landed two feet infront of you, or outside the building you're in.

Other than that, my biggest issue is that the gun model take up so much space on the screen, even with FOV at max.

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>>376729458
Both Kokan and Al-Basrah were done by the community and added to the game, aswell as some smaller additions too, definitely possible

I know that the Arma 3 Bundeswehr modders want to port their stuff to Squad too

>>376731521
The game crashes pretty regularly when it tries to change maps for me.

>>376731521
Try changing your video settings. I used to crash all the time when I had all my settings set to low.

>>376737505
>I know that the Arma 3 Bundeswehr modders want to port their stuff to Squad too

A new faction would be great. The UK should have been added months ago.

>>376737284

I think a game like Vietnam SHOULD be using the sound as a feature/tactic, main paths are quiter underfoot, walking through scrub should make rustling noises twig-snaps underfoot, sounds of running/cascadiing water to hide your footsteps, random bird/animal-calls that make sound when disturbed or even fly away, this whole game should have been made with sound as a high-priority feature

https://www.vg247.com/2017/05/12/giveaway-5000-closed-beta-keys-for-rising-storm-2-vietnam/

http://www.pcgamer.com/we-have-5000-rising-storm-2-vietnam-beta-keys-to-give-away/

WE ARE-UH LOSING EE-KOH

>>376731817
That's like walking into a McDonald's and saying the fries are kind of stale, so they ban you from coming in to any McDonald's.

>>376738181
Oh too bad for him. K I'm going back to my meal now.

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>>376737810
British Forces shouldn't be to far off, they were already shown of in dev blog last year and again in January, I hope they make it in with V10

>>376737978
oh shit, thanks anon

I was wondering If i should straight buy without testing first

>>376737441
>>Grenade impacting noises have no direction

If I hear the nade sound now I just stay where I am because it could have landed anywhere, at first i'd be looking and running all over the place, pretty sure that'll be fixed though

Also I believe bullet-cracks etc have been removed?

It's anonther thing that's seems "off" incoming fire is noisless, it's a fun game but there's practically no atmosphere, where are the rumbles and flashes of distant B53 strikes, where are the nightime maps using flare-guns and flare-traps, watching tracer rounds streak through the air etc

>>376738390
If you preorder you automatically get into the beta, and you can refund it at launch if you dislike it.

>>376738520
Oh, i'll just buy it then

>>376737921
Yeah, as it is now the sounds of war are impressive. The jet sounds like the jets that occasionally fly over my house, and the arty is terrifying on the receiving end.

>>376738029
Kek, too true.

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>>376738029

The enemy is taking Charlie
We are losing (using) Charlie

Pic related is what always comes to mind when I hear those

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>>376731721
It's a bit more in the sim category, most players use mics, engagement ranges are longer than in Red Orchestra and more compareable to Arma, calling out targets with compass bearings, backblast can seriously fuck up teammates etc.

I haven't played RS2 since the beta, but I really didn't like it as much as RO2/RS, some of the magic seems to get lost with automatic weapons, maps don't seem to great and the new gamemode seems terrible, shoulda stuck with territory only

>>376738841
I really don't understand why they don't have local voice chat in RS2, especially now that you have to watch your back blast.

>>376739064
They said they would consider it after release

>>376738391
>>376737441
I've finally figured out what was bugging me about this beta. It's the absence of all these sounds, it really blows. Not gonna kill the game for me or anything, but it really sucks.

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I think it's fun for about an hour at a time, but it can get a little boring

>Hue City
>Hue City
>Hue City
The fucking map rotation.

>>376739064
>especially now that you have to watch your back blast.

Would be an idea that when the RPG is aimed and you press X key the player gives an audible voice-clip warning etc

In an ideal world we'd all be on mic but..

>>376739643
there are 2 maps which I havent played yet, but Hue City, I have played it like 10 times

>>376739643

there's only like 5 maps, brah

Any helibros here? What do you do if you botch a landing and blast your rotor blades?

Is a suicidal charge into the enemy the only way back to paradise? Or is there some other way to respawn without throwing my life away

>>376740321
Thats fine but when 8/10 servers are god damn Hue City it starts getting fucking annoying.

>>376740321

Not him but 5 maps is pretty shitty, I read there will be 8 at release.

2bh If they don't sort the sounds out etc before release I can see myself getting a refund

>>376740490
Open console and type suicide

>>376740528
8 maps is those 5 for 64 players plus 3 for 16 players.

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>5 maps
>not feature complete (no local voice and no functional bots)
>that price
Tripwire is obviously cutting and running with a half baked mp like they've done with all their releases. All these beta waves for the game are because it cant keep a stable pop. It'll be dead in a month. Dont get tricked by the pricing this isnt a complete game. It only appeals to a small niche of faggots who are desperate to trick you into playing the game so they can dominate the shit meta.

>>376740632
>8 maps is those 5 for 64 players plus 3 for 16 players.

Ah right, that I did not know, that's not too good.

>No cover system

In to the trash it goes.

>>376740632
Jesus christ that is fucking underwhelming, how many did RO2 have at launch? 9 or 10?

>>376740752

I preordered for the beta, would I be right in saying I can still refund at any point before the oficial release nomatter how long i've played for, negating the 2hr play limit etc?

>>376740821
The cover system was a worthless development time sink,

>having to set them up
>animations specific for those
>nobody uses the feature because it isn't useful at all

seriously, people using the cover system are either dumb or new

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IT AINT ME
IT AAAAINT MEE
PUT A MARKER ON D

>>376740821
>No cover system

Yeah whilst no tthe most usefull thing, I did like the blind-firing around corners and the cover system for popping up and firing over the tops of objects, it was nice having the choice of using it or not

>>376726407
should be f2p game

Does your weapon automatically rest on sandbags when you're close enough? Is that why the icon pops up? or do you have to do something else, hitting the 'use' key seems to do nothing.

>>376741061
>>nobody uses the feature because it isn't useful at all

It is very useful for spotting targets. If you press W and shift while crouched and in cover the enemy will barely be able to see you but you can see them. You become twice a big target if you are just crouched. Only retards have not figured this out.

the only bad part about the game is the audio. you just need to stop being shit at it

>>376740821
>cover system
Did anyone actually use this in ro2
I mean really

All it did was guarantee that at least a tiny bit of your player model was exposed.

Lack of maps.

HueCity is aids. The other one which i can't remember the name is impossible for the US to win.

>>376741279
it's automatic

*fat sounding voice on comms*

i need burp markers on B, uhh arty danger close

*ten team deaths later*

709JZ
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The vaulting is fucking awful. Seen so many people stop and wiggle around trying to get it to start.

>play my 1st game ever
>somebody micspams it ain't me
good game. I hope they re-record the atrocious announcers though, and fix the memory leaks

>maps don't have any dead cows/pigs or insects/butterlies in the jungle

>maps sound like they're in a vacuum devoid of all sounds

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>>376741767
thanks lad

does game have animation to tap m-16 cartridge off helmet to reduce gun jams?

>>376742038
Sounds more like a vacuum cleaner when it's a Helicopter map.

>>376741424
it's alright for some of the low walls

>>376742063
but it says i got it

Can you shoot over cover while crouched behind it close up without hitting the cover or do you have to stand up? I'm crouched behind sandbags trying to hit a target up close and the shots keep hitting the sandbags. I seem to remember being able to mantle my rifle on cover while crouched in the previous games.

Fyi gamespot is doing a beta giveaway right now, first come first serve

Where is that iconic M16 model with the perforated handguard? I need it

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>the fucking stuttering around the map

does anyone else get this

>>376741424
A lot of walls are too high for crouching but too low for standing
Right now there's jack shit you can do besides expose half your body to shoot over it

It's obviously a reskin of rising storm and also a downgrade in terms of audio fidelity, map design and cover system. People who bought it for $20 expecting a game as complete as RO2 will be buttmad when it goes free to play with a tacky cash shop. Enjoy 5 tiny maps with very little variety to speak of and obnoxious /tv/ meme spam in the meantime.

>>376743069
works fine on my machine
>>376743784
delusional

>>376742352
Thanks shill cuck

>>376726407

It's ridiculously good. What are you on?

>>376743881
IT AINT ME LOL XD

Is it me or is the lighting really bad in this game? its so dull and gray..

>>376743784
>It's obviously a reskin of rising storm
What do you think a "sequel" is, you fucking miserable faggot?

>>376743184
So you have to stand up like an idiot to shoot over things? Alright then.

are there any night mission type maps?

>>376739643
>HUE HUE HUE, BR????? GIB DEMOCRACY PLOX

4MGS should be standard or the amount of available MG slots should increase as the amount of players rises in a server. 32 people per team max and only 2 MG slots available (3 on one map or some shit i think) means you'll almost never get to play MG if you're a normal human

>>376741295
This is horse shit, peeking while in cover exposed your face and shoulder where as being crouched only shows the top of it helmet.

You guys are just looking for any excuse to shit on the game fucking nobody used cover system in RO2.

>>376737978
neat

>>376739353
kekkkkkk

>>376743784
>cover system
The cover system and movement in general has been shit since RO2. In each game I'd often getting stuck, unreasonably slowed or end up standing on top of objects that I didn't intend to walk onto.

Chairs or other low clutter that act as a ramps if you get close and foot high walls that are barely noticeable but need to be vaulted over. The faster movement speed only makes these issues more noticeable.

Does the Loach control like ass this wave for anyone else? It's like I'm playing from the moon even though I have 50 ping.

>>376744253
A good sequel progresses the original, this uses the packaging of the original to sell a feature regressed version with useless gimicks like helis and a cosmetics shop tacked on. Have fun eating COD shit and I'll have have mine with one of the more substantial titles on offer.

I have a few bucks in my wallet so this would cost me $14. Is it worth it? I've played Red Orchestra, Day of Infamy, and Insurgency and enjoyed them (though DoI turned out to be bullshit after its launch so I dropped it)

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> have almost 500 hours in RO2/RS1
> not sure if I like RO2

Is it the game or me?

>>376746505
yeah buy it if you liked those

>>376746508
I actually also have 250~ hours in RO2/RS1, but I don't know if I like this game.. I don't know what it is..

Maybe its the choppers circling overhead raining death down on everything?

I really liked the infantry combat of RO2.

>>376746650
It feels more clustered and casual, I really can't put my finger to it. I loved the maps in RO2/RS1 and the weapons. What feels bad is that I was waiting for RS2 a lot.

Maybe its that RS2 feels more like Squad and I enjoy Squad more.

>>376746650
>Maybe its the choppers circling overhead raining death down on everything?
Choppers are shit for actually killing people. Cobra grenades and rockets have a fairly small blast radius and if you don't have a loach pilot flying around spotting (which is the case 99% of the time) you have to guess where they are. Not to mention you also have to worry about RPGs, DSHKs, and SAM. Being a helicopter pilot isn't particularly fun atm.

>>376746650
I've never seen a chopper get a kill in this game lol

>>376746650
Because the game is still new. Give it 3-4 months for the small, close knit, highly autistic server communities to form.

>>376743067
>Perforated handguard

Those were only on rifles with early M203 (XM203?) grenade launchers starting in 1969. Those grenade launchers were extremely uncommon during the Vietnam war.

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>>376746039
>feature regressed
>helis are a gimmick
>cosmetic shop

>>376747098
It feels like the speed of everything is quicker than RO2/RS1. Movement is faster, firefights shorter thanks to deadlier weapons, respawns just as quick as before, Helicopters come back so fast that you wonder whether it's even worth trying to kill them and more commander abilities mean more frequent call-ins.

Shotguns with slugs are my favorite, though i don't get why the US doesn't get slugs. I think I'll play the beta to death then buy vanquish and bayonetta instead since I enjoy single player games.

>>376747556
Yeah, you're pretty spot on. I like bolt action rifles a lot more than assault rifles.

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I haven't actually played the Beta yet, it's still downloading.

I just want a good Vietnam game. Is that so much to ask?

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>FPS stuck on 10-20 even on the lowest of settings despite running RO2 just fine

>>376747772
try setting the preset to ultra

>>376747743
I didn't realize Brazil was involved in any wars.

>i7 4790k
>gtx 1080

>fps sucks

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Last one.

Is there an ETA on the multiplayer campaign mode? This game is pointless without it.

>tfw enjoying the shit out of it

Is it really just me? I played the shit out of RO2/RS and am still loving this one. Hadn't even noticed the cover system had been removed till it was mentioned here.

Any history buffs know of some important battles we fought in the Vietnam War? I like creating maps and I need some inspiration

>>376748781

Biggest are already in there

>>376748781
Look at french campaigns there after WW2

>>376731021
RO2 shits on RS2

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>>376748706
I like it, but I have a few complaints.
>Automatic weapons don't mesh well with the series, the weapons on specialist classes feel exactly the same as the grunt weapons
>as someone else said earlier, firefights are short, fast and decisive
>grunts don't get pistols
>squad leader is no longer a role, and any old joe can be SL without access to smokes, many of them have no idea where or how to mark with binocs
>too few maps have helos
>gooks are more fun to play as than the marines, AKM has a much better sight picture than the M16 despite the american capitalist pig dogs supposedly having the tech advantage

>>376749304
>automatic weapons don't mesh well with the series
there have always been auto weapons in the series.

>>376749304
>Automatic weapons don't mesh well with the series
As opposed to the PPSh, StG44, MP40, MG42, or the DP-28 which did mesh well with the series?

>the weapons on specialist classes feel exactly the same as the grunt weapons
Shotguns don't feel the same as M16s or AK47s at all.

>as someone else said earlier, firefights are short, fast and decisive
On some maps they can be, but that's no different than any fps game. Even the fights in RO2/RS1 were typically decided within 30 seconds to a minute of starting. It's a video game, people don't care about throwing their lives away.

>grunts don't get pistols
I'll agree with you there, that's fucking stupid and needs to be changed. Particularly considering it means fights can hardly take place in the tunnels which I'd argue is a big selling point for their asymmetrical warfare.

>squad leader is no longer a role
Good, I like this new squad system. It means I can actually get the damn position instead of shitters rushing it for the weapons it offers them. They do need smokes though.

>too few maps have helos
Agreed

>gooks are more fun to play as than the marines
I like the marines/army. Playing as a pilot is fun. Avoiding RPG fire and SAMs while delivering a payload of grunts to the frontline while my door gunners go to town on the zipperheads is a blast.

>AKM has a much better sight picture than the M16
Just like in real life?

>>376747830

didnt help but thanks

how do you set the trap as the gooks?

>>376750260
I know that, I meant automatic weapons on everyone instead of just specialists

>>376750321
>Shotguns
shotguns are the one exception but everything else just feels like you're playing grunt with an extra

>Even the fights in RO2/RS1 were typically decided within 30 seconds to a minute of starting.
In this game it feels more like 2-6 seconds

>It means I can actually get the damn position instead of shitters rushing it for the weapons it offers them.
It also means shitters can get allocated SL who would normally never pick them, I can't tell you how many times I've seen cong SLs not put down tunnels or GI SLs who want to play offense rushdown

>Playing as a pilot is fun.
that's true but I wasn't really talking about pilots, it's more fun to play as a ground soldier fighting for the NVA than it is the US

>Just like in real life?
Yes, but there are a number of things that they could do to make it better instead of just giving the marines an automatic disadvantage

>>376750468
pull it out, look down and dig hole

holy shit these load times

>>376750717
>It also means shitters can get allocated SL who would normally never pick them, I can't tell you how many times I've seen cong SLs not put down tunnels or GI SLs who want to play offense rushdown
I think this is a time where the "but it's a beta" argument is actually valid. It'll get better once people are more familiar with the game.

>>376748781
Battle of Kham Duc

>NVA 2nd Rifle Division and Viet Cong 1st Brigade vs Americal Division (AKA 23rd US Army Infantry) and the Australian 11th Mobile Strike Force

>US forces controlled the town and airfield in Kham Duc, while Australians held the outer outposts that led into the town
>US intelligence had determined the 2nd Rifle Division was in the area, and US command decided to fortify the airfield
>Unbeknownst to US command, a brigade of VC irregulars was also in the area
>On May 10th 1968, the VC attacked Australian outposts by surprise, causing heavy Australian casualties
>Although the 11th MSF was quickly reinforced by the freshly arrived 12th MSF, the Australians decided to abandon their positions and fall back to Kham Duc
>The next day, the 2nd NVA Rifles Division advanced past the abandoned outposts and engaged the Americal Division, surrounding the city
>After heavy fighting, the 23rd infantry was forced back to their fortified bases in and around the airfield
>General Westmoreland decided that the city was doomed to be overrun, and ordered an evacuation of all BLUFOR forces from the town
>After a costly airborne evacuation, the city fell to communist forces

>US forces: 900
>US losses: 13 KIA, 92 wounded, 30 MIA
>Australian Forces: Unknown (Australian MOD was unwilling to release numbers on its Mobile Strike Forces)
>Australian losses: Unknown
>South Vietnamese forces: 500
>South Vietnamese losses: 10 KIA, 58 wounded, 95 MIA, 102 captured

>Communist forces: 2,500
>Communist losses: 350~ (US estimates)

>Civilian losses: 150

>Install game
>Boots up kinda slow
>Game set on max
>Game runs flawless have no problem
>End up playing for 12 hours and meet a group of guys
>Join a discord, theirs like 20 of em.
>We spend the next 5 hours stomping match after match

Game is fun. Fuck you

>>376749304
>Grunts don't get pistols

They didn't in real life either.

>>376751150

And then you touched eachothers willys

>>376734860
not an argument.

>>376748781
Khe Sahn, and Dien Bien phu.

>>376751050
I keep getting made SL, leave the squad, rejoin, repeat.

I just want to play as a grunt.

>>376731721
it plays terribly, the movement feels sooo floaty, the crouching is retarded, the graphics are terrible

Did they forget to put the lighting in the beta?

>>376727786
Why the fuck would you use an engine that had really shit controls and input lag.

UE3 is perfectly fine and opens up more of the game for others to play.

Now fuck off back to cumming over your UE4 houses you turbo fag.

>>376751050
It's not a good design choice, like this guy said
>>376751649
sometimes you just wanna play the game instead of acting like a spawn point and trying your hardest not to die

it's not so bad for the NVA though they can just drop a tunnel then play normally

>>376726519
>playing "buggy mess the game"

no thanks

>>376731721
It's literally Battlefield 2 modernised on hardcore only.

It's nothing special.

>>376726407
The game will only start to be good when all the new players get bored and leave.

Red Orchestra 2 and Rising Storm 1 are only good because the dedicated players aren't blithering idiots. Squad Leaders prioritize living, Commanders know when and where to call in support, you can depend on someone covering a corner to actual stay there and cover the corner, etc.

We will unfortunately only get that in 1 - 2 years.

for a game that's cheap as it is it's good. It's a Rising Storm game and it feels like a Rising storm game.

easy anti cheat is the reason why i'm not getting this game. I don't want to install a rootkit bitcoin farmer on my computer. It doesn't even stop cheaters either.

>>376731059
>being this autistic

I bet you are just a miserable poorfaggot who cant afford decent games only bayonetta tier shits

What should I be doing as:

US Grenade launcher dude?

Radio operator? Specifically his grenades?

Squad leader?

>>376752737
nade launcher: slam gooks holed up in buildings and corners and you can kill tunnels with it. it's very important to get the one with 2 smokes to help team.

Radio op: be with commander if he wants you otherwise use your smoke grenades to cover team and act like a normal grunt.

SL: spawn teammates near to the point but not too near to die easily. If taking a point stay inside a building and hold out as long as possible. Also put down arty marks with your binoculars or signal grenades so your TL can call artillery when needed.
With Arty marks make sure they are either in the back of the point to kill only the enemies and to cut off reinforcements.

Why couldn't they have added some destruction to the game.

It's literally all it needs.

I have 10 hours in, game is really fun. More enjoyable than RS1 imho famalam.

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>>376753502
>Play Red Faction Guerrilla
>Man, if destructible environments are this great now, I can't wait to see what games are capable of in the coming years!

>Years later
>Haven't seen any game with half as impressive destructible environments as RF:G

>>376753819
Also, I play and squad. They are different enough to enjoy them both for different reasons.

>>376726407
They completely nerfed the radius of smoke grenades but I guess you can throw them 5 yards further?

>shoot charlie with M16
>lol 5.56 hold F to bandage one shots you with 7.62

>>376753864
This is how I felt about the original Red Faction.

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>>376747772

>runs better than RO2 on my four year old toaster

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>lower graphics settings
>get worse performance

>>376753864
>>376754024
geomod was a nice engine gimmick. The battlefield has good destruction but its not on the same level as the RF games. But considering its in a large scale multiplayer setting its very impressive.

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>>376753864
This really pissed me off

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>Spawn
>Run a mile
>Die instantly to some guy I can't even see
>Repeat for 10 minutes
>"WE HAV BEEN DEFEETED"
fun game

>>376755593

git gud

>>376747920
This joke certainly gets funnier every time i hear it

How can I get AA missiles?

>>376755593
This would happen to scrubs in RO2 as well

Slow down, sprint for a bit to get close to the action then don't touch that button unless you're crossing a SMALL open space or going to the next bit of cover.

A general rule: if the cover is more than 4-5 seconds of full sprint away and you're not 100% sure your team owns that area it's a deathwish.

Move from cover to cover, try to minimize your exposure as well as the amount of time you are exposed. If you see someone near you get shot when he looks around the corner; don't do the same thing.

Will I be able to put the Colt 4x20 on the M16A1 and early Russian infrared optics on AKs and Dragunovs?

>>376756592
4x20 maybe

russian optics no

>>376731395
>show mentions weed one time
>everyone spergs out about about it forever
Good ol 14 year olds

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>Running behind some teammates.
>Didn't see ally aiming RPG.
>Die from the backblast.
TECHNOLOGY.

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Literally the very first online match I get into and the first thing I hear are two guys fighting over chat because one of them thinks the other is a shitty commander

Who was that old server admin that would always talk shit and ban people in Rising Storm servers?

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>>376758210
>first game
>group of 5 guys shouting CHARLIE IN THE TREES down mic all game