Thief

Can we just let it die? Thief 2014 was more than enough, I can't take any more. Either you give it back to Looking Glass studios or you bury it deep.

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Ignore this noise and play FM's.

http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144797
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146501
http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/

>>376698181
>Thief 5

But we didn't even get a Thief 4.

>>376698181
>Thief 5.
Okay, so how does this work?
Thi5f?
5hief?

Please just let Garrett rest. He deserves it.

>>376699190
just

THIEF

Fifth? Was there a fourth game?
>produced by Marisa Polvino, Kate Cohen, and Roy Lee, and executive produced by Sandra Condito.
Hmm.
>Squeenix
It's fucking nothing.

>>376698181
>the Hitman TM of Thief
That was THI4F, hopefully this one will be good

>>376698181
>new thief
>thief film
wowitsnothing.jpg

>>376698181
Was four not enough?

I'm still angry that a fucking thief game had such a mangled control scheme you literally had no ability to jump.

Thief, a game where the protagonist is supposed to be agile and swift, and he can't fucking jump.

>>376698181
was that previous train wreck not enough for them?

>>376700396
They'll make some small improvements without actually addressing any of its real problems. And of course, when people point out those problems, there will be plenty of defenders who point to those small improvements and say that the critics are impossible to please.

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>>376698181
>thief film
>new thief game
Why?! you fucks ruined Deus Ex why do you have to keep raping Thief?

>>376699190
ThieѴ

>>376699190
Th5ef

>>376699318
>THIEF 1

>>376699190
TVief: Cinematic Stealth

Thief 4 wasn't that bad.

>>376703728
>Thi4f was my first Thief

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>>376698181
ENDLESS TRASH

I hope they realize they fucked up and at least go back to basics by removing all the casual shit like the swoop and hub world. Thie4f was okay at best, especially since I got it for cheap in the bundle. If they wanted to go all the way they should just remaster 1 and 2.

>>376704183
You can bet your ass that a remaster would fuck up the audio.

>>376704336
What makes you say that?

>>376699527
No
Thi4f was Hitman Absolution.

Now its Thief TM which goes back to it's origins but released in really short episodes and is fucking expensive

>>376699037
>Ignore this noise and play FM's.

i wish people would catch on to this already. not just for thief but for a lot of old games.

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Why the fuck is this happening? THI4F didn't sell, critics and normalfags didn't like it, who is this going to be for?

>>376699190
3Thief5You

>>376698314
>Play thief 2014 all the way through
>Eh its not so bad
>Get to the end
>Ending is literally an 8 second cutscene

Literally felt like i hadn't even completed it.

Any good scary FM's?


Inb4 scarecrows

>>376699190
T5th

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>GAME
>GAME II
>GAME: SUBTITLE
>GAME (2014)
>GAME (20XX)(?)

>>376705087
t. 5th

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I need to find out names of companies in Thief to label some of the stuff I'm modeling. The only one I can currently recall is Shemenov's.

>>376705237
Mechanists prbly had monopoly on most of the shit :^)

>>376706180
Dark Project has lots of generators, water pumps and collector towers. Collectors are probably made by the hammerites though.

>>376700830
>Why?! you fucks ruined Deus Ex
How was DE Ruined? HR/MD were solid but not perfect games, with rough edges. The biggest problem with MD was it was a half-game, and an awful port.

I just want Thief 2 Gold to happen, but it never will....

>>376707448
I think MD better accomplished the key design philosophy that Warren Spector wanted to adhere to with Deus Ex. Instead of being really long with lots of things to do, it's half as long with shitloads of stuff.

>>376707914
Oh yeah, I don't mean in the sense of actual objective length, but in the sense of how it ends very abruptly, and very much feels like one game that got chopped in half.

>>376707914
what gameplay improvements did MD make

i didnt try it because HR was mega boring but if they improved things i would give it a shot

>>376708009
If you found HR mega boring you'd more than likely feel the same about MD

>>376708182
thats the impression i got from the gameplay footage of it

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>The last Thief game, which launched back in 2014, was met with mixed reviews, ranging from a 67 to 70 on Metacritic between all platforms. Our own Ben Reeves had this to say about it, "Eidos-Montreal may have adhered too closely to the series’ roots, resulting in a reboot that suffers from classic problems like simplistic combat and trial-and-error sneaking missions. However, locked behind this old-school game design is a gem that stealth fans should eye up for their collection."

>>376708394
wew

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>>376708394
delete this

Can't wait to SWOOP again

kill me now

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>>376708394
>adhered too closely to the series’ roots, resulting in a reboot that suffers from classic problems like simplistic combat and trial-and-error sneaking missions.
>locked behind this old-school game design
I wish I could find the letsplay video gamespot or some other site did of the original right before 2014 came out but this will have to do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPqwDGXxLhU

I've been replaying Thief again and I feel like it has pretty much everything that made 90s western games good. Of course there are flaws but that kind of attention to detail and atmosphere while still having tons of player agency even at the cost of balance just seemed to die rapidly in the early 2000s. Thief pulled off this all so well, it's ironic that it got turned into a super 2010s game with the new one.

Spookiest Thief enemy: that sitting skeleton in the mines which throws its head at you

>>376708840
Do you mean this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrcFKLwhfbI

It's also being played by that Ben Reeves cuck.

Thief 4 wasn't THAT bad. At least not where I'm up to in the game.

If you took away all contextual animations, restored jump, restored free roaming and rope arrows, would be pretty nice.

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>>376708970
They play the game like fucking spastics.

What's everyone favourite FM?
Disorientation is top notch.

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>>376708970
yeah that's the one
>that point where they start shitting on the original and praising the new one even though it hadn't even been released yet but obviously it's just better

Does anyone remember the /v/ stream when Thi4f first came out?

>the chat getting absolutely flooded when garrett hid in the closet in front of the guard and the guard just stopped and stared
>"eh"
>That finale
>cockrings

>>376709027
I haven't played the new one so I ask: how big are the levels in it? I think that the old Thiefs benefit a lot from the big levels where you can actually get lost in, it makes the feeling of being somewhere where you're not allowed to be a lot more tense and I find the initial part of trying to visualize the map in your head fun. Especially when combined with the vague maps.

>>376699190
Thief5

game has two playable characters

Square should just play the dark mod over and over until they get it.

>>376709265
The game was meant to be played with quest markers so there is very little environmental indication of where you should go if you choose to turn the quest markers off.

The actual levels can vary but most of the time they divide into several paths that reconnect in a linear fashion, giving the illusion of non linearity.

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>>376708394
>Eidos-Montreal may have adhered too closely to the series’ roots

How the fuck did they make the levels so big and long as fuck back then? I can spend hours on a level its fucking amazing

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>>376708394

>>376709640
Probs has a lot to do with simpler graphics

>>376698181

>Square Enix

Can't wait for them to add XP boosters,arrows,one use jump ability,actual Thief game inside multiple DLCs

EH

THI4F is just insulting.
It's a safe bet that Thief 5: Taff You is going to suck dirt just as hard.
If they manage to pull off a Thief game that is on par with even Deadly Shadows I will be amazed.
In hindsight Deadly Shadows is really not that bad.

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>>376709265
The levels, at least where I'm up to now are fairly linear and nowhere near as sprawling as the original ones, but the atmosphere and aesthetics are on point.

>>376708970
https://youtu.be/IrcFKLwhfbI?t=27m38s

>Playing Thief II again
>You can just run around hitting everyone over their head and beat the stage on expert in under an hour and a half

Why does the game allow this?
You don't even need to sneak around anything that isn't made of metal.

>>376705237
99% sure that's a texture mod and there were no such logos in the game.

>>376710758
There were no logos. I'm making them up as I go. It's not a texture mod, It's my own 3d modeling project.

>>376710718

>You can just run around hitting everyone over their head and beat the stage on expert in under an hour and a half


I'm pretty sure you can't do that on the levels where you have to ghost, or to "helmet guards".

>>376711349
I don't remember that much seeing as it's been a few years now, but I am breaking into the bank right now and so far I haven't encountered any issues with this play style.

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>Its Soulforge episode

How can someone fuck up final mission like that?

>>376698181
>believing that Square Enix wll fund full-fledged Thief game in current year
Wait for your inevitable Thief Go on mobile

>>376711736
Soulforge is very underrated.

>>Fief555
They should focus on stealing big things, not nicking every piece of shit out of every drawer.
Every mission should be like Indiana jones stealing the golden idol.

>>376708009
>what gameplay improvements did MD make

Even more alternative ways to enter/exit an area. More robuts. Boss fights were better. You could do a real stealth run now. More aug choices. The social aug was improved 100% and actually useful/understandable. You could even do more of a speech run now. Not as much emphasis on being a pure shooter. More movement augs.

>>376709246
>CARROT MY COCKRING IS SLIPPING

>>376708394
I didn't knew people were this retarded, then i remembered that anything is possible in the gaming industry.

They should make a proper Thief 4. If they want to continue with the reboot canon they should just fucking stop

I know this will sound crazy but they should just leave Garret alone and make up a new character and setting, probably set in the future of the Mechanist/Hammerite world. Truth is that most gamers today don't want to play a stealth game that's not an rpg/fps hybrid. They might as well add future guns and just give people that. I'd rather have a Deus Ex/Prey in the Thief world than a really bad sequel to the original games. It gives them room to fuck with lore and characters, it gives them room to do easily made gameplay that appeals to a wide audience. The only way to do a real Thief game would be to make their own engine (or heavily modify an existing one) to include all the good stealth mechanics of the old games. Most companies these days don't want to invest the time and money to do that so they try to build a game with nothing but Unreal scripts and blueprints. Which is fine if you're making a fairly generic fps/rpg but sucks for something specialized like deep stealth.

Or, honestly, just let it die like the first guy said.

>>376711736
The only way to not enjoy Soulforge is to try to disable every bot you come across. You will not have the resources. Once you realize that you can only use your expendable tools as a last resort, you will discover the fun of the level.

When I started ghosting, Soulforge became one of my favorite levels. I'm not saying you should be ghosting, just try to sneak past everything you can sneak past. Use your water arrows to take out bots that are hard to avoid.

>new game
>movie
And this is how you know its going to be shit. Look at Rachet and Clank.

>>376698181
Didn't Thief 4 flop just completely and utterly?

That and Murdered: Soul Suspect leave me wondering if Square Enix is ever gonna bother with western developers again, because that was a fucking mess.

>>376713059
>one of the best Ratchet and Clanks since 3

lol?????

>>376710109
Nope, theres multiple ways in and around places in thief 4, I just completed it the other day.

>>376713119
>shit story
>shit characters
>shit humor
>shitty level design except for the ones they copied off the original

lol?????

>>376713059

The game was fantastic, what are you talking about? The movie was shit though.

>making a Thief movie after the ass creed movie
L M A O
M
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>>376713259
Explain yourself

>>376713390

The game was almost exactly like the first. It basically an HD remake with some changes. The levels had the same great design and puzzles. The weapons felt nice and had good variety. One of weaker parts were some of the enemies that were copy/pasted a bit too much across worlds. It had good boss battles. Looked great.

>>376713325

But Gayme of Thrones is popular so making a video game movie AND being able to shove in medieval type intrigue and drama is a plus. On top of all that they get to add sci fi and fantasy shit. It's just too tempting for a studio.

>>376714315
Then it makes no sense to base it off the bland and watered down shit that was Thi4f. If they were going to make a movie, it should be based on The Dark Project, like it was originally supposed to be.

Can't wait it simply to witness pre-release threads here.
COCKRINGS

>>376699190
Thief: Origins
THIEF
Thief 1
Thief of War

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>>376716470
>thief of war

>>376708970
>die like a retard for the upteenth time
>'Well, alright guys that's enough of that, obviously the series doesn't hold up today, can't wait for the new one"
Holy shit.

>>376711736
It seems awesome, I just haven't played it yet because its so god damn overwhelming.

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>>376698181
>thiaf 2
>knack 2
why though no one fucking liked these games
did square burn through most of their IPs and are now investing as much money as possible into a "a everyday until you like it" strategy?

>We want you to play as a thief, but we don't want to force you to play as a thief

I thought the Teeftanic sank.

>THIEF5: The Master Taffers

Razörfist is going to be playing Thief 2 live today.

>>376719083
even in the old games you were never forced to sneak around you could go around beating all the guard to death if you wanted to
that's the difference between old games and these new ones, they used to just explain the rules, give you a bunch of tools then drop you in a level to explore, these days everything has to be super tightly designed to give the player an "experience"

>>376708394
Now there's a dude that hates video games.

>>376698181
Who even asked for this?

>>376719427
That's what I like about the new Prey
It feels like an old school game

>>376699190
ThieVes

>>376719703
>It feels like an old school game
This triggers the fuck out of me because It's not that it's "old school" at all, it's just far less restrictive than 99% of modern day garbage imo.
>>376719724
n1

>>376720012
>It's not that it's "old school" at all
Explain. It's literally a love letter to games like System Shock and Deus Ex

The thing I like most about thief is using the dodgy maps and compass to find my way around. There's no chance in hell a new game is going to have anything like that.

>>376720436
Since It's a subjective term maybe I shouldn't try.
It just doesn't play at all like an old school title to me, my biggest frustration is probably how clunky and heavy it feels.

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Starting thief for the first time, is there anything here that I need to uncheck?

>>376720974
Is it as clunky as Deadly Shadows?

>>376721220
nope you're good to go

>>376721220
This is just my opinion, but I think interactive candles is unnecessary as it adds unnecessary and unbalanced extra light sources to extinguish. However rare it may be. And I think the old style pitch black skies with a few tiny stars adds to the cold and eerie atmosphere of Thief 1.

>>376720974
Did you play it on the PS4 or something?
I've been sliding and popping aliens all day, shit feels like FEAR some times

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The new one will just be called "The Dark Project"