What went wrong?

Technology isn't ready for good VR, I don't want to strap a screen to my face and tilt my head around just to use a controller in the anyway, what's the point?
Could work with something like House of the Dead though.

>>376697486
Nothing. This shits awesome

>>376697486
I dont have 800 dollars to spend on a meme

Need a $1000 PC to use them properly.

>>376697486
$1000 to play tech demos and watch blowjob porn

So if I only want this to play Flight/space sims ,Dirt Rally, and maybe porn

which one should I get?

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>>376698123
rift for literally everything smaller then 10ft x 10ft
>>376697486
literally nothing. shit takes time, but its been a good week
payday 2 has full support coming
half life 2 just got put on greenlight for the basically finished vr port
the job simulator guys got bought by google

>>376697486
>nothing good produced for a miniscule userbase
VR is a meme, just like in the 90s. You need to solve fundamental problems first and figure out some basic gamedesign principles before you try to peddle expensive hardware that needs to run on an even more expensive hardware.

>>376697486
it's only gen 1, the tech isn't there yet.

>>376697486
People actually allowed themselves to believe this time would be different.

ITT> OP never tried a vive

It costs a shitload and vast majority of VR focused games are very samey.

>>376697486
Motion sickness mostly. VR itself is super fun, but most of the AAA stuff just isn't playable on it due to the motion sickness with the traditional movement. Teleportation movement sucks on the other side. And target shooting becomes pretty boring really fast.
So basically it's a really fun thing with little to none good content on it (and no ideas how to make any).

They've got them on a Derron Brown ride at Thorpe Park, you can see the pixels.

The ride was shitty btw

>>376697486
I'm an idort so I already spend enough to play games, I'm not going to drop the cost of two more consoles just to play shitty indies and the worst version of RE7.

>>376697486
Nothing racing sims and space sims are amazing with the vive.

>expensive
>no eyetracking
>no AAA games

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>>376697486
>No player feedback
>Low screen resolution
>No developer support
>Valve refuses to make game to support its own platform
>Facebook jews
>>>>ROOMSCALE

Pick one OP, they had every chance in the world to make it good and fucked just about everything up

>>376697486
teleporting
high costs
meme games
game experiences
no must have
Gabe is a jew
Fb is literal jews

>>376701647
But Valve is making 3 VR games.

>>376701909
>3 (three)
lmao

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What did Facebook mean by this?

>>376701909
>valve
>making game
pick one

The technology is "there".
I don't see what needs to be added at the moment, apart from more actually good games.

>>376703646
Fehssbuk is kill

They have been on gen 1 for a while now.

I have a vive, and I literally only use it for porn. The screen door effect fucking sucks, and vr flopping means we'll probably not get any better hmd's with higher resolution screens. The Occulus lawsuit shit didn't help either.

>>376701619
This.

Eyetracking is absolutely a must.

Maybe next gen.

>>376703646
VR movies weren't as popular as they expected, so they shut down the studio dedicated to it. That's all there is to it.

>>376697486
>What went wrong?
Oculus tried to be Sony with exclusives and took months to release their handsets. It kinda stalled things for a while.

That said, since their handsets came out and devs can count on more players having motion controls, more games seem to be coming out for them. It's the best way to interact with things in VR.

nothing went wrong. it's a niche peripheral for people looking to make their games more immersive. same way people who like driving games have logitech steering wheels and people who like flight sims have hotas.

until they streamline the installation of vr and cut down on the number of wires it won't reach mainstream consumption. look at how well smartphone vr is doing in comparison, because it's affordable and intuitive.

>>376704143
>Eyetracking is absolutely a must
maybe next century dude.

I will always defend VR. After trying that shitty space flight sim demo on psvr I'm convinced that vr is the future, it doesn't work in every genre, but there are some incredible emergent experiences waiting to be had with VR. I'm excited for where it'll go in the future

>>376705148
>maybe next century dude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDhyCQoBUf4
the technology exists already

>>376705424
i think you'll find most of the people who are shitting on vr haven't even tried it. or are the ones expecting to jack into the matrix in their life time.

The hardware just isn't cheap enough yet.

Facebook

>>376697486
>product not finished
>no real games made for it yet

>ITS OVER

can this stop?

>>376705575
>>376705575
looks like these guys are making their own headset. reckon they patented the technology?

>>376705793
The worst they did was put all their oculus videos and streams on their shitty website.

>>376705932
That and
>There are plenty of games already
>THOSE DON'T COUNT BECAUSE [stupid reason]

>>376705587
>Jack into the matrix
We're closer than you think anon.
https://appreal-vr.com/blog/full-dive-virtual-reality-how-it-works/

>>376705950
>VR is a seated experience, with an Xbox controller.
>VR will see cellphone-like growth starting immediately.
>RING-SIDE VR SEATING FOR SPORTS
>TV/Movie integration!
>Fuck up the launch so badly the impression spreads to VR as a whole, even though PSVR and Vive were actually both fine.
>Let's bring arbitrary exclusivity agreements to the PC space!
>Ok, here's a our motion controllers. Coming in a year. They bring the overall price to the same as the Vive.
>VR is a 180-degree standing experience.
>Ok, fine, you can have 360-degree, but you're gonna need a USB expansion card and eight cameras. Don't blame us, NSA forced us to maximize cameras per home.

The first two years of this generation VR has been a fucking political cartoon of Valve shitting gold and Facebook/Oculus going "Hey, I can shit, too!".

say if Im rich neet with 1k burgers worth of money to throw away
which one should I get Rift or Vive?
already have 1080ti so I should be able to run it

>>376707565
Vive, it's the most complete product right now. That said, buy $1000 worth of poptarts instead, it's a better investment.

>>376707565

After Oculus did that massive price drop I'm not sure anymore, the Vive is great but I'm not sure if it can compete with the price difference.

Either way be damned sure you're getting a roomscale setup, whilst seated experiences are okay, being able to actually interact with your surroundings naturally is what makes these headsets worth getting.

Also be fully aware that this is a poor investment, the technology is gonna evolve fast and the current headsets are gonna be left behind.

>>376707565
I'd wait for gen 2 at this point. Vive have been showing a lot of addons in the making but it probably isn't long before they put them in a new headset.

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>>376704143
the vive already gets this eye tracking addon . you can even let them make prescription lenses for the insert if you need them
http://www.roadtovr.com/vive-get-eye-tracking-add-optional-corrective-lenses/

Man I can't wait for those Gen 2 Vive controllers, being able to just naturally pick stuff up without having to squeeze those annoying side buttons is gonna be such a massive improvement.

>>376705949
no, they cant patent eye tracking based on open standards. there is also an eyetracking addon for the vive. http://www.roadtovr.com/vive-get-eye-tracking-add-optional-corrective-lenses/

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Nothing. HL2 vr comes out in a few days, proper head strap for vive in 2 weeks. Wireless addon in summer for the west so is FO4 vr and Payday vr.

not enough porn.

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>>376697486
>What went wrong?
i dont know? your life?

>>376708232
It was pretty smart of Vive to make a tracking 'puck' for third party companies to make controllers for. Just hope they come with regular Vive controller handles to make up for the cost.

>>376701647
Screen resolution is 1440p though

>>376697486
PSVR is pretty gud, and it's actually affordable.

>>376707565
Vive because with ReVive you can still play Oculus Exclusives. Doesn't work the other way around.

>>376709783
>Doesn't work the other way around.
SteamVR supports Oculus, so all Vive games will run but yeah, half the time you're struggling with the controller's key binds and other issues if the dev hasn't added proper support.

>>376697486
Vr is dumb
Nobody cares
No one has enough space
Technology should be wireless

>>376697486
Nothing.
It's a good start and it built a solid foundation for the future.

>>376710086
>t. poor underage

>>376697486
Needs Matrix level technology for full immersion.

>>376697486
They have no target market.

>casuals don't want to drop 2000€+ on it (headset + PC capable of using it)
>core users don't want to play flight sims and Arma at shit tier resolutions (nor pay 900€ for room wide tracking and motion controls they don't care for)

Add to that the complete lack of decent games and it's a flop.

>>376708880
And it's right up in your face covering a much larger field of view than any monitor. Make it 4k and we'll start talking about it.

>>376712035
this, but without the danger of dying

>>376697486
Nothing. Payday 2 VR coming soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTwSQLkJy5Q

>>376712364
So what's the point then?

>>376712035
>>376712364
This is an 18+ website.

>>376712571
>People will unironically say this is the same as using a mouse.
>Or worse, because they think games is all about efficiency.

VR MMO when?

>>376712571
>pay $800 to play the same game but with more annoying shit on your head and shit controls

This is why VR is dead.

I got the gear VR for the samsung 8+. Normally I masturbate in my living room on my 55 in tv, but my mother in law is going to be staying with us for two weeks once the baby is born, so it is nice for porn when you are having to share a house. It was only $130, and some people got it for free with the preorder. Overall, I think I have enjoyed over $130 worth of pirated porn, especially from cosplay VR, I was able to dl the whole site.

>>376697486

Not enough porn

Because it wasn't ready, and it sure as hell isn't good.

The games you can play are limited, the head tracking is annoying. The only thing you can get immersed in is flight sims given that you don't actually move.

>>376713307
Tell that to the people who keep coming back, paying money to play on the Vive where I work.

>>376713114
The gear is very comfortable and the controls are a lot more intuitive. Aiming with a gun will always be better than using a mouse.

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>>376713664
>this is what VRfags tell themselves

>>376713763
Here comes the funny /pol/ yellow face meme, tsk... I thought this place was a better than this and perhaps a higher standard of discussion could be had, but it seems I were wrong.

>>376713580
How much do they pay? They're paying for a novelty, not 800$ for an actual peripheral.

>>376713664
for 10 minutes maybe. Now normie try to be a real gamer and chain 5 hours of that waggling shit a day.

>>376698370

oh god this image

>>376713763
>>376714213
>"This thing is bad and comfortable"
>"I tried it and it's actually good"
>"lol you're just in denial!"

>>376714135
About a dollar per minute if I recall correctly. The most popular games they play are Superhot and Robo Recall.

>>376697486

Too fucking weird.
Its too expansive
Too uncomfortable
Its a fucking screen right in your fucking eyes, in my case for longer than 15 hours per day, I dont want to go blind.
No fucking games and tools for making games compatible suck dicc

its a fuking failure. I was inetrested, hyped but its nothing more but a mere toy.

>>376715016
>Too fucking weird
What does this even mean
>Its too expensive
It is, mostly enthusiasts will get this until headsets get cheaper
>Too uncomfortable
I can play with mine for hours without it bothering me
>I dont want to go blind
It's actually better for your eyes than looking at a monitor
>No fucking games
Superhot, Robo Recall, RE7, Rock Band, Elite Dangerous, Chronos, EVE Valkyrie, DiRT Rally, Asseto Corsa, etc.

reggie was right

I don't get why they push (and people buy) the controllers. All I want is to play with kb+m and a VR headset instead of a screen. All they needed to do was to make that affordable instead of wasting R&D resources on remotes and room scaling or whatever they call it. There was no need for standing up except for gimmick games, it shouldn't have been the focus.

>>376697550
It works fine in my experience, it's just too much of a buy in, and requires a lot of extra space for the sensors.

>>376697486
Idiot young people who will buy anything

>>376697994
>>376698020
>>376698031
>>376699674
>>376701619
>>376701647
>>376701721
>>376705665
>>376707565
>>376712053

PSVR is your best choice
>cheaper than competition
>good enough graphics quality
>Sony actually supports platform

Explain yourselves why would you want to buy anything else than PSVR?

>>376697486
I'm not getting one until they have 4k res and the hardware exists to run at 75hz+

>>376718303
I don't like closed systems.

>>376718303
Can I use it on my PC?

>>376718438
>4k res
you mean 2160p?

>>376717776
Because once you played those games and get used to having your hands in VR, KB&M and joypads feel too detached. Even simple things like picking stuff up to look at can add a lot to the immersion.

The roomscale stuff isn't ironclad either. A lot of games like Onward just let you move with the thumbstick/touchpad.

>>376697550
>Could work with something like House of the Dead though.
No, it can't.

People seem to forget this, but light gun games had movement. What causes sim sickness? Movement, especially the kind of erratic camera that made light gun games great.

What VR works for is turret shooters, think Beach Head 2000. I suppose VR could work in a virtual arcade setting, but then you're getting into the whole "why am I strapping this shit to my head when I could just point the controllers at an actual screen for the exact same experience".

>>376718684
4k = 4096x2160
UHD = 3840x2160

Don't be a fag, no one calls it "twentyone sixty pee"

>>376718303
>You're wholly dependent on Sony to supply games. If they drop it like the Move games before, you're stuck.
>The tracking is awful and drifts constantly.

>>376715568
>Superhot,
Fun for 10 minutes, sure.
>Robo Recall,
I'm loving this new meme title, only a child could be enthralled by a game in which it's impossible to die and you just do "cool" shit for 5 hours.
>RE7,
A game that could have been good, spoiled by VR. Maybe one day they'll put out a remaster that fixes the limping tier walk speed.
>Rock Band, Elite Dangerous, Chronos, EVE Valkyrie, DiRT Rally, Asseto Corsa, etc.
No, no, no. You can get headtracking for 20 bucks these days, and a triple monitor setup for 150. Why would you pay 10 times the cost for no actual advantage?

>>376718820
I can be immersed with only a monitor. Controllers should have been secondary imo.

>>376719275
>>376719525
It's easy to tell which posters haven't tried it.

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VR is just the latest in a long line of gimmicks.

Here's one that at least had some actual game support, playing HL2 with recoil and proper force feedback was actually pretty fun. Absolutely not worth the 200 dollar price tag though.

Meanwhile, VR is 1000 bucks minimum and doesn't even offer FFB. When it comes down to a sensible price, 200 bucks or so, there might be some interest. As it is, only idiots actually bought into a closed system with no games and no existing game support.

>>376719602
I haven't tried it, no, but what I want from it as a consumer is the glorified monitor variant.

>>376720000
>I haven't tried it, no
Then stop spouting shit acting like you know what you're talking about.

>>376720285
I still think why I haven't paid for it matters. It could be really fucking worth the money but if I'm not convinced of that then I'm not going to buy it either way.

>>376719614
I picked one of those up for $45. It was great, comparing it to VR is stupid though. It's not like the Novint sparked a industry worth billions.

>>376697486

Same thing as with the switch.

No good games.

>>376721946
VR right now is a complete pipe-dream.

They've massively overpriced the hardware, and zero adoption means zero incentive to make games.

Meanwhile, Novint took a military grade haptic robot and reduced the cost to 1/100th to make a failed gaming device. I think something is going to come out of all this VR shit in 5-10years, but I don't think it'll be something you can really tie to these headsets as more than a concept. AR is the real future, VR is just the stopgap.

>>376722293
Microsoft already has inside out tracking headsets for $300. It's only going to get cheaper.

>AR is the real future

Sure it is but AR is in addition to VR, people are still going to want completely immersive environments i.e. video games. All that says is things like the Hololens will do both. This will help with mass adoption beyond games is all so comparing console level adoption to cell phone level basically.

$800
That's it really. If they were all at least $400 like PSVR it would be much more popular.

> >>376718914
you're full of shit, i literally played through house of the dead overkill in DolphinVR two days ago and had a blast

stay salty poorfag

>>376697550
>I don't want to strap a screen to my face
How the fuck else would you do VR?

>>376718914
ogft hahaha lottle poorfag xant play through house of the dead overkill on dolphinVR SATY SALTY LMAOOOO

>>376722819
>>376723001
If daddy knew you were using his Rift while he was at work, he'd be very disappointed in you.

>>376722706
youre only argument is that your poor...

lmao ill keep dabbing in vr as a hyperdimension neptunia avatar while you play space station 13 and erp you poor little faggot

>>376723170
>rift
nigga please ive been using tracked fontrollers since last summer, aint gonna wait a year for shit camera based trackin

>>376697486
absolutely nothing

while normies keep on playing (((uncharted 4)))

im too busy sticking dynamic bones on my anime avatars tits and sticking IK on them so i can slap my virtual cartoon d cups and then watching anime in a VR theatre with a bunch of other cute anime girls

could care less if it becomes a mainstram indistry cause its great now

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>>376698370
>incomplete stereoscopic overlap
nah the rift can fuck off, and thats not even getting to the smudgy as fuck godrays, low brightness, and inability to produce blacks

>>376719614
the novint falcon wasnt even meant to be a gaming peripheral, its a force feedback alternative to the space mouse used in cad and stuff like surgery simulations. the gaming grips for it were the gimmicks. the falcon has its uses outside of gaming

Vive owner.

Lack of content plus the motion sickness which admittedly has gotten better over time as i got used to it.

Main killer is things to do, once you have played with the basic vr mechanics, pick up throw ect it all comes down to the games fun and sadly most VR games at the moment are built only on the 'wow look you can touch things' part of VR

Thankfully there is the likes of budget cuts sometime in the future as well as some official AAA games.

Its only been a year and a good games dev time is 2-3 years. Till then iv got hotdogs horseshoes and handgrenades to keep me busy, that dev is freaking nuts with his updates.

And the vr porn.. so much vr porn

>>376724218
>>the novint falcon wasnt even meant to be a gaming peripheral
Yes, it was. That was their whole push, it's why they sent a bunch to Valve and tried to make deals with EA.

>>376708138
To be clear, there is virtually no software compatible with these right?

>>376724590
I've had about 4 hours with the vive, first 2 were just "stand still and fuck around with shit" type games, and i didn't get any kind of disorientation or sickness

So I loaded up wildlands and turned off every motion sickness prevention they have in the game and went wild with scooting around and swinging about and didn't get ill whatsoever

but holy FUCK your body just freezes up when you're airborne and you instinctively lean when accelerating, I nearly fell over once or twice.
I wish I had the option of trying HHH, that game looks great.

>>376697486
expensive gimmick

>>376724630
nope, provided you're not retarded and bought an nvidia card, you can get foveated rendering in every VR game

>>376724884
You would expect windlands to be really bad but it isnt really even with my motion sickness i was ok after an hour or so.

The worse i played by far was spell fighter VR where you basically slide to your new position.. that one fucked me up bad

>>376725054
Guess I'm retarded then but I have a 970 so it was time for me to get a new card anyway. That being said, why does that make any difference anyway?

>SoftBank Group Corp. is leading a $502 million investment in Improbable Worlds Ltd., a London-based virtual reality startup, in one of the U.K.’s largest venture capital deals.

This was yesterday, VR is here to stay naysayer faggots

>>376697486
Facebook and valve rushed to monopolize without actually establishing anything that people want.
At this point it's up to microsoft to save VR with a platform that isn't locked down bullshit.

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>>376725267
you only have to render where you're looking at in detail, which gives fucking massive performance boosts

your eyes can only really see where you're looking at in detail, so if you have eye tracking you don't have to render your peripheral in detail because you'll never be looking at the blurry parts.

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/4dsXzM

>>376701619
What does eye tracking add ?

Not baiting, actually curious to know

>>376703646
Emmies are like a diamond dozen.

>>376725850
Sorry, I meant, why isn't it compatible with Nvidia cards, do you know?

>>376725943
see: >>376725850
foveated rendering will give massive performance boosts, and you can use your eyes as an input device; look at what you're shooting/clicking, etc

might actually grab the addon if gen 2 isn't too close when it releases

>>376725580
Facebook wasted more and lost most of it.

>>376726073
you read me wrong, i said "not retarded and bought an nvidia card", not "retarded and bought an nvidia card"

AMD cards are absolute shit right now and don't support foveated rendering

>>376726314
Oh damn, in that case, nice. Either way, it's about time I upgrade to a 1070 anyway. My computer is on the bottom-tier of being able to play Vive. Onward gives me a lot of trouble unless I'm on lowest settings.

>>376722706
This is true seeing as PSVR sold more than oculus and vive combined in its first 4 months

>>376706321
>The term originated from a Japanese light novel anime series, Sword Art Online, written by Reki Kawahara in 2009.
>First, the story popularized the concept of VRMMORPG.

>hurr durr what is dot Hack?
Never link that piece of shit again.

>>376722920

Lay down on a comfy bed inside a pod which renders you unconscious and transfers your mind to a digital world.

>>376726146
there is always big investment and small return or loss at the start of tech like this' life.

When the next gen of consoles can handle this properly and give it to the masses at an affordable price, it will be the next television.

>>376726467
might be a decent idea to check out second-hand 1080s too, im sure a bunch of peeps are selling their 1080s and grabbing the 1080ti

1070 isn't bad though, im currently using it and it works great

>>376707565
I owned a Vive for six months and it was the most fun tech demo I've ever tried. That said I Craiglisted it to wait for the next generation.

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I don't currently own a VR device (unless you count Google Cardboard), but I've tried each big VR headset.
Rift was pretty neat, although a bit tricky to focus. Using the Touch Controllers on the rock climbing game was very fun.
Vive was also good. It felt great to throw grenades in Arizona Sunshine.
PSVR was the most comfortable and easiest to focus. Rush of Blood was awesome and actually scared me.
I would probably get PSVR because it's the cheapest overall (I already have the Camera and I got the Move controllers back when they were released for the PS3).
>>376726518
>>376722706
How much is PSVR if you factor in the Camera and Move controllers?

>>376726736
I'll look into it. Is there a price or release estimation for those aGlass lenses? Are there any comparable alternatives?

>>376726864
>I Craiglisted it
I hope you heavily sanitised it beforehand.

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>>376725943
Like other anon said, the main thing is rendering. Which may be a way to keep system requirements as screen resolutions go up.

I think the eye input could have many uses. From general expression stuff like in the pic to games knowing where exactly a player is looking for gameplay purposes. Think a game knowing which word of a letter you're looking out or if you're directly looking at a item instead of just pointing your head in it's general direction. Lots of little things.

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Here are some games that people say are worth buying VR for:
PSVR:
>Resident Evil 7
>RIGS
>Rez Infinite
>Eve: Valkyrie/Gunjack
>Until Dawn: Rush of Blood
>Sportsbar VR
PC:
>Onward
>Doom 3 (VR mod)
>Serious Sam VR
>Raw Data
>Arizona Sunshine
>Elite: Dangerous
>Rec Room quest mode
>Google Earth VR
>Minecraft (VR mod)
>Dreadhalls
>Robo Recall
>Superhot VR
>Chronos
>The Climb
>Fruit Ninja VR
>The Unspoken
>HLVR

>>376726972
i mean all they have to do is wipe it down with some rubbing alcohol and replace the cover with a 5 dollar replacement

if you're not cleaning your second hand face masks then you deserve the salmonella

>>376726992
>game knows if you're looking at ads
>forced to look at advertisement to keep playing

>>376727283
>forced to look at advertisement to keep playing
oh jeez black mirror's becoming true before our eyes.

>>376727283
>Game knows when you're looking at a character's boobs.
>She notices and gets angry at you.

>>376727559
NEVER LOOK AT A GYPSY'S BALLS

>not playing american truck simulator on vive with wheel, pedal and shifter attachments
>not already ordering the deluxe audio strap
>not already ordering aGlass
Q3 just can't come soon enough

>>376726730
The problem is the oculus and vive are effectively betamax.
They're already an outdated platform that nobody will ever go back to once a proper standardization happens.
They might still make headsets, but not in any capacity that will beat hardware tech giants like asus and samsung

>>376728816
t. anon still using a 1080p monitor complaining that you'll need to upgrade your face monitor

why haven't you upgraded to 4k yet?

>>376714961
>most popular games are Oculus store exclusives
Valve BTFO

I want to play these games but I've got a Vive and I'm not buying through Facebook's store where they could remove compatibility at any moment.

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>>376728513
>Payday VR and Fallout 4 VR coming out soon
>just hit 250 hours on Onward

Truly a great time to fall for the VR meme

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>>376730950
>bought onward
>to acoustic too play it
>didn't refund before 2 weeks

i wanna know how much has been dumped into vr with almost nothing to show for it

>>376698031
I know, it's tempting
there is even tranny vr porn

>>376730825
>buying
All of them are on IGG-Games my friend

>>376730950
I just started playing Onward last week. Shit is so fucking fun. Half-Life 2 VR soon goddamn it.

>>376726569
.hack was not full dive, retard. They still used controllers with their headsets.

>$1100 just to get started

Shit is way too expensive. Fuck you Canada.

I'm going to wait until the technology improves and gets cheaper.

>>376713580
>>376714961
I sometimes do this at those new BELONG sections at GAME.
It's £10 for 15 minutes.

>>376730825
>Oculus store exclusives
There is a way to play Oculus exclusives on vive:
https://github.com/LibreVR/Revive

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>>376734261
>Razer Hydra is now supported
interesting.

No games, plain and simple.

>>376735262
>he hasn't played onward or robo recall
L-laughing
M-my
A-ass
O-off

>>376735691
>"B-B-But tech demos!"

>>376736126
Alright then, how about Serious Sam VR?

>>376736542
That is a tech demo too. There are no proper full games for VR. Something with progressing stages, difficulty curve, mechanics, and possibly story. It's all just tech demos.

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>>376735691
look at this image.
now be aware that between my 2 friends (both of which moba players) and I havent discussed or heard about vr in months! there to for it is dead!
now refer back to image
thats you! haha shall i call vr a meme? yes.
there is no game!
when my mother bought my the wii on launch day it came with twilight princess!
take your $4999 dollar crt face mask and get off my board because i watched all the matrixes and that is how virtual reality is done.

>>376718303
Because vr at 30fps is vomit inducing

>>376718684
Autism

>>376737006
Wow, it's like a ticklist of naysayer quotes.

>>376737035
uh just because it's only rendering 30 frames doesn't mean it's 30 frames you can stretch the image to make fake frames and your brain can't tell the difference and if you throw up it's your fault because you were born with a shitty bodY DELTE THIS REEEEEEEE

I have DK2 and only usage I have for it is party-piece. I'll show it to friends or relatives, give them a couple demos for them to play and go "wow, this is so cool, it's like I'm really there", then I put it back on the shelf and don't do shit with it, because there's nothing to do with it. There are no games I'd sit down and play through with it. What little hame can use it, always require me first going through some stupid secondary UI software, like SteamVR or OculusVR to launch my game, instead of just clicking the icon. It's just not worth the hassle so far, and I don't see how having a better VR helmet would solve any of these problems.

>>376738225
> theres nothing to do with it
>unless you fake it to be a better vr helmet
> idk how better vr helmet would help

>>376738564
Let's go over the list.
>there are no games to play through
>there are annoying shells required to use it
Both or those are applied to any other helmet. So what is your point?

>>376708369
Aren't there several wireless options? Is there an agreed-upon flagship adapter?

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>>376738838
the dk2 sucks and if you had cv1 you might not have so much sand in your vagoinas