*blocks your sawmill*

>>376692558
I-I didn't want that wood a-anyway.

*gets upgraded archers on day 3*
nothin personnel....

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>>376692558
>chainlightning intensifys

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There's no need for ridiculous walking animations when you can ride

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>>376692558
Am I the only one who enjoys audio/visuals way more than the actual gameplay?

BTW the best city:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0L6YZDb-6w

>>376693136
Childhood is idolizing Solmyr, adulthood is realizing Tazar is the best hero.

>>376693326
I liked Tower before I realized what slow and expensive piece of shit that town was.
And no, I didn't switch to Necro simply because it's OP, I did it because I always loved skellies and other undead.

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Post your favorite castle and hero.
>dungeon
>jeddite

>tfw want to play Inferno
>it's just shitty and expensive
>heroes don't have any usable specs either

>>376693407
I like rampart and forest. Dont have a real favourite hero.

>>376693407
Rampart though to this day I'm miffled about them having to make Sorceress darker and ediger by excluding fairies and phoenixes and turning it into weird weeb LotR elven land. Poor forest faction never really recovered after that though IV was a brief return to old.

>>376693332
Then, wisdom is learning that Solmyr is better since early is more important than late.

Tazar only becomes crazy if you give him time.

Also Crag Hack>Tazar

>>376693697
Zydar is pretty good. His stronger magic can really aid your shitty army.

Is Shakti the best starting hero?

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>>376692558
>reverse image search
>0 results found

>>376693407
>Heкpoпoльs
>Moandor

>>376694505
Hack tier is Mullich
Kyrre, Gunna or Dessa. are top tier
Then Offense/Defense Like Tazar, Crag Hack, Mephala, or good magic like Solmyrh, Adela, Jeddite/Alamar, Thant

>>376692558
When I saw this thread I immediately thought the number of replies was the size of the stack (15)

>>376693407
Fortress is the true patrician choice.

what towns can week 2 clear griffon bastion

How do i Inferno?

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>>376694812
>Mullich
he's removed in HoTA

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>There are still people on /v/ that remember the GOAT game

All is well with the world for now

What is the best way to fight shooter stacks early game?

>>376695141
>implying

>>376695069
Hence Hack tier.

>>376695175
Zap em.

is there any reason to take knowledge over spellpower at any point?

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>>376693407
Rampart
Ivor
>mfw early elf rush

>>376695175
Spam blind

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>>376695141
Used to play it on heat.net a lot. Occasionally hot seated it with my friends after school.

Better times..

>>376695369
I like knowledge for Thant/Alamar/jeddite since power doesn't change that much while more cast is amazing for those. That's obviously depending on them already having a bit of power, which is generally not a problem

>>376695369
when you have whopping 10 spell points

>>376692558
S-Sauce?!

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*blocks your retreat*

>>376695512
chill out

>>376695369

Maybe If you are playing on some bullshit map that has literally no ways to restore spell points?

Often the late game turns into that whole Super Sayan "Instant transmissions behind u" bullshit via dimension dooring and town portals. The winner is usually the one who has the most spell points and can cover the biggest distance in a single turn.

>>376695652
>play against an AI
>*magic arrow*
>*flees*

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>>376695652
>1 int

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>>376695749
>int

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>>376695749
>int

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>>376695749
>int

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>>376693326
>tower theme ends just as it starts getting real good

>>376695720

>Super Sayan "Instant transmissions behind u" bullshit via dimension dooring and town portals

Holy shit I have vivid memories of this. Everyone would just chain teleport between wells and traverse the entire map in one turn if they had enough knowledge.

Imagine if HoMM3 had simultaneous turns. Now THAT would have been cancer

>>376695720
Dimension Door is the stupidest spell in the game and should not be in any good custom map or campaign

>XL map
>Underground enabled
>tfw a game could go on for days if not weeks

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>>376695749
>int

>>376693407
Dungeon
I call troglodytes "penises"

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>>376696117

>Teleports behing you
>Rams [longint] demons up your ass
>Psssh... nothin personnel.... kid...

>>376696047
>>376695720
Hang on can't you use use it like 5 times max per hero per turn?

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>>376695749
>int

>>376696294

>G map
>There goes the summer

>>376695749
Kys

>>376693843
>multiplayer
>big map
>play rampart
>everyone sends me money on 7th day
>i get the 5% of the profits

This calls for homm3 happy merchant, is there such thing? anons?

>>376696359

I think it was 4 times actually

The problem is that the spell was usually combined with town portal. Basically you would teleport to a town closest to wherever your final destination is and then dimension door from there. 4 hops was usually more than enough to cover a bullshit distance.

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>>376692558
am i the only one that like 6? Sanctuary and shades of darkness.
aslo Irina best girl

>>376693407

>only play castles that are aesthetically pleasing
>end up not picking fortress/stronghold ever in years of playing the game.


also Conflux/Necro is bullshit

>>376696732
I play fortress 60% for the aesthetics, 30 for Mighty Gorgons and 10% for day 1 basilisks or Tazar depending on what I'm in the mood for.

>>376696630
>am i the only one that like 6?
Yes, and you need to leave this thread

>>376696630
6 is good for single-player and I legitimately liked the storyline and Sanctuary (though it's a bit too much of a Mists of Pandaria/racist caricature of "da East") but man 6 was NOT a good Heroes game at all

>>376693326
h3 towns have fantastic music

>>376693697
git gud at building demon power stack with the Pit Lord's ability

>>376696938
should i play just for single player?

>>376693326
unpopular opinion alert
>homm4 music's even better

>>376693407
Rampart and the Grand Elf guy (Ivor?) because he isn't as cheesy as Kyrre (Logistics) and he easily clears the early map.

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*blocks your path*

HOMM4 might not have been as good as 4, but there is one spot where it surpasses it

Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k9fPBM-rPo

Also aestitics if you got the good city on the good tilesets, like Order on snow

>>376697250
I loved 3 and 4, but 4 takes the cake for best music

Gonna raise you this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDXNSWJLuo

>>376697250
not as good as 3, huuur durr

>>376697123
it legitimately was though

>>376693407
my truly favorite castle is Fortress though because I never before saw such an awesome swamp themed set of units.

No fav hero there though, everyone knows Tazar is the best but I almost always went with other guys like the baslisk guy or Korbac (dragonflies).

>>376697297
I want you to know that you are my nigga.

>>376697032
demon herding is fucking shit
>>376693697
early efreet sultans rush is their only saving grace.

>>376693332
childhood is rushing Capitol first, adulthood is realizing you should rush tier 7 dwelling no matter the cost

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>>376697359
Bruh

>>376697297
>>376697250
>>376697359
my niggas
We have to remember tho it wasn't as original
https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/7/10250

>>376694812
Cyra is Hack tier too. Diplomacy and enhanced Haste

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>>376697320

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>>376697193
>double blow intensifies

>>376697435
>tier 7 dwelling
But I'm playing Necro.

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>>376697530
>>376697193
step aside, the ultimate peasant slayer arrived

>>376694812
>Hack tier
>Crag Hack in a different tier

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anyone else here liking HoTA but hating the fanfiction-tier cove?

>>376697657
His name is Crag, tho

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>>376697606
>mfw they go for the skeletons

>>376697668
the opposite,
I like the town, dislike the balancing.
I liked the game being imbalanced, it's more fun

>tfw getting diplomacy on my necromancer
REV UP THE SKELETON CONVERTER

>>376697435

>rush tier 7
>can't afford my units
>month of the plague

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Who Undead Hordes here?

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>>376694259
nice, your main hero leveled up!

>>376697989
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>376697989
>Advanced Eagle Eye
>Advanced

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>>376697989
>Advanced Eagle Eye
>Advanced
>Advanced
>Advanced

>>376697435
If you play rampart and don't rush capitol first, then treasury, you're a retard and deserve to lose

>>376698046
>talk to witch
>oh hey dearie, heres eagle eye. no no, no need to thank me

>>376697989
>his face when

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>>376697989
>Advanced Eagle Eye

>>376697849
>SKELETON CONVERTER
>can turn hydras into bone dragons

what sorcery is this

>>376698046
>>376698057
Anons, maybe he had to choose betwen Eagle Eye and First aid

>>376698116
That's why you never use those unless you fill out all the secondary skill slots.

>>376698147
Doesn't first aid at least let you dispel negative effects on your units at higher tiers?

>>376698116
This is why you only visit Witch Huts with a scout hero.

>>376698184
but you can also get skills your class cannot normally get and that are good

>>376696630
Nah, you ain't alone senpai, I liked it, and 7 (after they fixed all the bugs) fucking ubisoft and their deadlines making new HoMM games look bad

>>376693407
Fortress I'd say or Necro
In 4 nature or law
In5 sylvan but mainly necro

>>376698225
Or you can get the fucking Eagle Eye and waste a skill slot.

>>376693998

The factions got even more generic and uninspired after that
>dwarfs
>elves
>dark elves

>>376698079
>wasting 15k on something that won't give you shit
>get killed because someone got high tier creatures and cleared a griffon sanct

>>376698187

>dispel negative effects

wait, what?

>>376693407
Fortress
Tazar

enjoy your nodmg

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>>376697883
>Necro isn't immune to month of the plague

>>376698372
There is honestly nothing more satisfying than marching in on an enemy with a high level Tazar and tons of mighty gorgons.

>>376697606

*casts destroy undead*

>>376698379
what the fuck? It is? you learn something new every day.

Another reason the town is busted

>>376693407
>Post your favorite castle and hero.
Don't have a favorite castle, but I'm partial to Adela and her Diplomacy skill and Bless specialty.

>>376697883
that's the point. RUSH. you have 4 weeks to buy out, if you know what you're doing you will have your power stack bought out.

>>376698079
Rushing economy first is always a bad idea, if your opponent rushes units, he will have a huge advantage over you.

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>>376693407
The Grove replacer for Fortress since it achieves the same defensive town goal but doesn't suck.

>>376698456
Bless is so good
>tfw blessing my stack of 6000 skeleton archers

>>376698456
wow you're literally my mum
she's been playing that castle/hero combination for like, 15 years now, not kidding

>>376698415
no, my favorite part is getting Dungeon and scouting a Dragon Cave early and you smile because it's gonna be a fucking dragon fest

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>charges you from the other side of the field
>gets luck bonus

>>376697476
>Paul actually replies to random peoples mail.

Is it possible to not like that man?

Me and dad always played this together

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>>376698372

>>376698535
>ywn play heroes 3 with your family ever again
It hurts.

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>>376698480

>That WC3 Ziggurat on the roof of one of the buldings
>That half burried WC3 ancient of war
>The leftmost building is just a watermellon with a door in it

???

Pretty sure most of the other buildings are also ripped from other games but I can't remember which ones exactly.

>>376698682
what happens if an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

>>376698682
Minus Craig Hack and Tazar Isn't this how Heroes 4 started?

>>376697051
>should i play just for single player?
If you can get it on the cheap, sure

>>376698682
also, there's no such thing like -1000*C knife since absolute zero is -273,15 I think

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>>376698480

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>Hota sets out to balance the game
>they make this faggot
Good job Russkis you did it.

>>376698694
I've never played with her either as she INSISTS quick-combat to be always on.

How does she still find the game entertaining playing one town/hero combination skipping combat and not caring about any other skill than diplomacy and logistics is beyond me.

>>376698835
can't tell if bait

>>376698835
The only absolute zero is the amount of damage Tazar's units will receive.

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>>376698682
>>376698762

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>>376698918

>>376698756
Don't forget the building that's literally just a Warden from WC3.

>>376698879
the clone guy is the worst offender because they gave pirates tier 3.5 faggots which are fucking ranged gorgons.

>>376698079
t.I can win against the computer MASTER

>>376698956

Gelu look so fucking lanky in that intro

>>376698353
Expert first aid would make first aid tents dispel negative effects on stacks, or so I think. Could easily be wrong tho

>>376698879
what's his specialty?

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>>376698637
>mfw there's an unit in Heroes 5 that has this and the dread knight's double damage proc

>>376697884
idk if you're still here but Disciples 2 is probably the only fantasy game in which I fucking love undead.

ryland best hero

>>376698478
Rushing units you can't afford you mean

>>376698308
>won't give you shit
>implying you're 100% guaranteed to find a griffon sanctuary in every map

>>376699194
He starts with the cannon and it gets a damage bonus for each of his levels. If you haven't played HOTA the pirate faction can buy cannons instead of ballista from their workshop. They're much stronger and during a siege can function as a second catapult however they cost 5,000 to buy. This faggot starts with one and gets the artillery skill to ensure it will always fuck your shit up. Him also starting with Logistics is just the cherry on top.

>>376699194
cannon, a ballista replacement which is actually useful but costs 5k instead of 2500

That's the other reason cove is a broken shitty ass town. They got t3 that can kill t7s, best terrain and a siege that is useful

>>376699298
even if you can't buy them right away, they'll being stored up for later purchase. considering you always have more money than you can use late game, its better to just rush creatures

>>376699121
I don't think that's true, at least that what the google search told me. It sure does sound like it would actually make it bit more usefull;

tier 1 - control the tent
tier 2 - dispel negative effect + extra heal
tier 3 - resurrect ( once per battle ) + even more heal

What did HoTa do to make that skill more usefull anyone knows?

>2007+10
>there are people like >>376699298
that still legit understand how to play homm3

this game has been out for like 17 years and at this point everything has already been figured out.

>>376699298
>Pro's for rushing Capitol
>much more money if the map is large and desolate of mines
>Pro's for rushing creatures
>they let you capture mines so you can build up other resources
>you can claim artifacts and chests first
>your creature generators continue to pile on creatures unless plague fucks everything
>you can capture towns and use their town halls to generate money and more creatures
>you can explore much further and scout out the enemy
>You can stop their scouting
>You can conquer some faggot who rushed capitol and get the best of both worlds
If you're rushing Capitol you need to know the map very well to justify it.

>>376699298
you are a fucking moron, you rush units because rushing units gives you a possibility to gather guarded resources and treasure chests which let you upgrade and buy out on top of giving you exp for your hero to get the ball rolling.

Have fun clearing anything more dangerous than lots of gnolls with Centaurs and Dwarves, your capitol won't mean absolutely nothing if you have cash but are a power stack unit growth behind

try taking Ivor and building elves day 1 and grand elves day 2 or rushing it another way on higher diffs, it's a world of difference

>>376699642
You have to be 18 or older to post on this website

>>376699642
is this a short pasta or plain old bait?

It better be one of the two

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>that guy who built a resource silo on day 2

This thread made me reinstall Homm3

>>376699710
yfw heroes 3 is over 18 years old

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>Contains a free moderately strong hero
>that hero will have a free army that can crush the early game
>Even if it's late game you can transfer their army to your main and have them on convoy duty
Name a more unbalanced mechanic than prisons. Protip: you can't.

>>376699861
So is the Earth but I still expect people to know about it

>>376699858
remember to get Horn of the Abyss mod. truely feels like a expansion to the existing game unlike WoG nonsense

>>376699918
I sure love getting a mid leveled hero with expert eagle eye, advanced scholar and advanced first aid

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I really liked taking Heroes to battle in HoMM4 and hated pretty much everything else.

But that Heroes system + HoMM3 would be the perfect game for me.

>>376692558

>free skeletons.jpg

>>376699918
griffon sanctuaries are worse. Dragonflies trees too, but griffon sancts take the cake because it's a dice roll. If you will get more angels than the opponent, you win the game.

>>376699918
Pandora's box :^)

>play multiplayer with friend
>we both fucking suck
>he picks tower, I go necropolis
>you can already see where this is going
>gib money gib gems gib crystal
>>376699918

>managed to kill guarding archangel stack, this better be good
>It's Learning, Eagle Eye, First Aid , Scholar , Scouting, 2/3/9/16 with gold golems episode

>>376700027
same here. If I had hero battle mechanic from 4 + hero avatar accurately representing each base hero and his artifacts + unit choice like in 4 but with 7 tiers not 5 + rest from 3 I'd be in heaven.

>>376700116
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>376700027
>Try heroes 4
>Cool I can send my hero into battle
>the ai shoots him and I don't have any way to stop it until he dies
>Get a hero to lategame
>He becomes unstoppable I no longer need an army he just mops up
That mechanic was terrible.

>>376700027
too bad they were absurdly OP on higher levels, though that finale in the addon where you only commanded your 6 champs from earlier scenarios was cool

>>376700027
more map buildings/unit upgrades/ old combat perspective/ little bit of balancing and homm4 would be 10/10 for me.

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>make a point to actively stop AI heroes from getting to obelisks
>manage to get them to only find a couple of them
>they still aimbot the buried artifact

>>376693407
Now i love all of them but back then i think i prefered the ice giants the most. Can't say if i had a favorite hero but i liked flashy stuff so i was usually going for the magic builds.

Also how much was I fucking up for playing just one hero? For me it was an adventure and doing the routine of visiting all the spawn spots and stuff with bitch 1 unit heroes exhausted me.

>>376700257
oh yeah, now I remembered IV dropped unit upgrades.
I was like what the fuck, the best part of III is making your Nagas grow extra arms and have swords, basically going from some kitchen aide to war goddess mode

>>376700070

this, THIS fucking shit is the reason why i can't pretend I'm playing ironman. It's so tempting.
It always ends up gorilion devils and gives you jack shit, or even worse takes your resources from you/ gives negative effect on your hero.

Fuck this thing so much

>>376700339
>Also how much was I fucking up for playing just one hero?
you would get massacred, having scout heroes is essential to beating the game. Town Portal aside, it's also the difference between having to visit your towns for the creatures and being able to explore further.

>>376700027
Play WoG, it adds commander units that you can level, it even uses Heroes IV icons for skills.

>>376695141
Play HOMM 2 and HOMM3 every Christmas with lilbro, usually ends with us massing a gigant army and fighting. always win because I have black dragons and Armageddon then we fight in our drunken stupor

>>376700526
Really? Well I'll definitely try it out then!

>>376700526
WoG is overmemed imho.

Good thing you have the options to turns some of the weird stuff off

>>376700317
>Playing a giant map
>There are over a dozen obelisks
>the ai visits a couple
>sends out a hero to nowhere and spends five days digging around until it hits the grail
The grail is a stupid mechanic. The only way a real player would find it is if they've already stormed through every opponent to hit every obelisk meaning they're going to win anyway or they're just scouting in which case the other players will let them find it only to bumrush them.

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>>376700317

this reminds me

best Grail building outside of OP like aurora and "even more skellies".

>>376699225
>Disciples 2

Good taste

>>376697884
>tfw knowing how the mission progresses and having 5 dudes that attack anywhere and are completely invulnerable to weapons

>>376698918
I like you, you made my day a bit more fun

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>>376692558
*Summons Avatar of Death*

>>376700526
>Play Heroes Chronicles in WoG
>The early game factions are meant to have their towns limited to low tier buildings
>Whenever you visit a town the buildings can't be built
>the moment the ai captures one it can build whatever it wants
>Every campaign is the hardest shit ever where your Silver Pegasus have to contend with their arch devils
WoG has some problems.

>>376700671
Digging around until you hit gold is something I can understand since you waste two days per try, but fucking AI makes it so you finally find the spot, get to it and there's a single mound of dirt there every time

>>376700607
Just remember that it contains a lot of weird stuff, fortunately you can turn most of these options off if you don't want it to change your experience that much.

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>>376699772
>that guy who goes for city hall in the first week

>>376700671
the grail building isn't stupid itself, the way of aquiring it is because of reasons you mentioned.

If grail was just guarded with the right amount of units so you can have it in reasonable time frame and suffer losses on the way there it would make sense as a comeback mechanic and risk/reward stuff. For example you could have Grail city revealed to everyone, so other players can try to go fuck you up before your enhanced growth and money makes you snowball. It also would make much more sense with all the grail bonuses enhancing your garrison, like Stronghold or Fortress.

However with how late it enters (if ever) it's just "win more" irrelevant stuff.

HoMM 5 is objectively better than 3 but you're blinded by nostalgia and cutesy fairytale visuals.

Fight me.

is Luck/Morale chance static?

As in if you have 10% chance to get the morale bonus no matter if creature A gets it, the next one still gets 10% chance?

That moment when your roommate learns armageddon as dungeon in a 1v1 match

>>376701049
Even if HoMM5 was mechanically superior, it still couldn't compete with 3 purely because of 5's default multiplayer maps being complete garbage as well as being tiny.

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>>376698303

>>376701049
HoMM 5 is my fav too anon, the class specific tree's were rad and the city music / visuals was top tier.

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>Think the hooded skeleton with the spic name is the greatest thing ever.
>Draw hundreds of pictures and shorts about him killing all kinds of shit.
>Be that kid when somebody ask me who that guy even is and unload headcanon.
>Even shoehorn him as mary sue edition into my D&D adventures.
>Be sad when nobody wants me to be the Dungeon Master anymore.

Elementary schoolers are autistic as fuck.

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You are off having a chill evening leveling your hero in a local underground when [5500 POWER LICHES] slap your sulfur mine's ass

What do you do?

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>>376701302
Hooded skeleton with the spic name is indeed the greatest thing ever, anon.

>>376701049
I didn't play enough goblin expansion, but being able to choose between 2 unit upgrades was a good idea, too bad that all the expansion upgrades are themed with each other and not more like Disciple series unit paths.

I liked many creature designs when it released but over the years I came to dislike them for being too warcrafty for my tastes. They also changed castles to way more generic than you had in 3 when it comes to Rampart/Sylvan comparison and Tower/Academy. Not even to mention dungeon which became a cheap lame warhammer dark elves ripoff or necro which had only those grim reaper creatures (unupgraded) as a saving grace and other than that declining into GREEN GLOWY EYES shit territory

The map looks like shit though and is tiny so that's the main reason HoMMV isn't as timeless.

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>>376701373
I take the offensive

>>376701373
cast master forgetfullness

>>376701049
Homm 5 is a good game however the glacial pace the ai takes its turns, the shit map selection, the slow gameplay and the unbalanced factions (well beyond conflux and necro standards) put it below homm 3.

>>376701470
undead are immune

>>376701470
>not mass blind

>>376701302
Sandro was carried by his design alone. Gameplay wise he always sucked and despite being given his own expansion he had no personality beyond being power hungry.

>>376701563
then fuck me
>>376701593
>mass blind even existing
>blinding something that has no eyes

>>376701470
>>376701593

Undead are immune to mind spells.

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>>376701302
>mfw his spec sucked in heroes 3
If he had a necromancy bonus spec, he would have been the shit

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>>376701428
Armage-..shit
>>376701302
AND HE PRAYES

>>376701876

That would be beyond even Mullich tier hax.

>>376699464
Nothing, but what you're suggesting has been suggested to them on forums and they said they like it.

do you guys like shit like Dom4 and CoE4

>>376695141
Slavs are still playing and modding it.

>>376702014
but Galthran is the most broken hero in the game.
Objectively speaking Sandro sucks ass because he has a useless special that happens to be one of the worst secondary skills in the game.

>>376702060
Yes.

Is it true that most high level matches dont last for more than 3-4 game weeks?

>>376702149
At a glacial pace. Those guy have been promising VCMI as the next big thing for over half a decade and it still has broken ai.

>>376702060
I play DoM4, but what's CoE4? Is it the other Illwinter game call of Elisium?

>>376702295
Of course not.

>>376702295
High-level matches are usually played on large-XL maps, and are not blitzes, so you have a lot of neutrals to kill before you reach your opponent.

>>376702295
High level matches end the moment one player gains tempo over the other. The game doesn't have enough come back mechanics or ways to prevent snowballing so the player with the better starting position has the game already it just takes a while for the players to meet and realise who got imps and who got master gremlins.

>>376702325
yes.
good game, terrible turn system

>>376702060
i love dom4 but im awful at it

the best i've done is play ma ulm and make lots of dwarves cast magma eruption and blade wind but that's literally the extent of my playstyle.

i fucking hate the AI emptying dragon utopias with weak ass armies

>>376703494
just do it yourself then nerd

>>376703551
i don't want to rip my archer units

>>376699205
No there isn't.

>>376695141
I play HoMM3 with my little sister fairly regularly.

>>376703817
>bringing archers to a dragon utopia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCu-2Kh7vzE

Shit gave me nightmares as a kid.

>>376697123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDXNSWJLuo

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>>376695749
>int

>>376693407
tfw Forge never

>>376703848
lizard riders

>>376692558
i have no idea what this game is, and have never heard of it. sell it to me

So what are the hopes for HoMMVIII? VII was shit but still a noticeable step up from VI. You think Ubi might do the smart thing and go back to the original M&M world?

>>376704359
>inb4 they make it into MMORPG

>>376704228
They don't have any damage procs, and reduce target's defense instead of multiplying your damage.

>tfw used to jack it to the opening cinematic because the queen wore a thong.

Simpler times.

why do some buildings cost a ridiculous amount of resources for their tier? Like ogre fort and cyclops cave.

>>376704465
Holy shit didn't even notice, guess I was too young

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>>376692558

Best Heroes coming through. All that 3 nostalgia just prevents us from talking about the GOAT title.

>>376704359
>go back to original world
>get decent artists for the town screens
>drop the cartoony trash artstyle

Three simple steps that would make the game a thousand times better.

>>376704559
(you)

Next heroes game confirmed to be a moba card game.

>>376704902
dont forget crafting

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>>376699858
>ever uninstalling HoMM

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>>376704084
Yeah, same.

>>376698480
Goddammit that's awful

>>376705023
I have had Homm3 installed on every single computer I've ever used, feels good.

>>376704902
>>376704962
http://store.steampowered.com/app/517070/Might__Magic__Showdown/?snr=1_7_7_230_150_1

still hurts ;_;

>>376705063
>>376704084
I remember it being POV
maybe it was a different heroes

>>376698756
>Background is taken from WoW
>One of the building is literally a Warden from WC3
>Malfurion as hero

The longer you look at it the worse it gets

>>376704359
>So what are the hopes for HoMMVIII?
Why would there be one, six and seven both floundered and their three remake got laughed at for not having the expansions.

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I think we can all agree the skillwheel was the greatest thing in V, right?

>>376704084
I always thought that the executioner was supposed to chop your head off, but he just cuts the rope.

never played
HD or original the best version?

>>376705430
The so-called "HD" Heroes Ubisoft shat out is, well, shit. Grab the Complete edition on GoG and install the community made HD mod.

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>>376705297
>three remake got laughed at for not having the expansions.
That was the least of its problems.

>>376705430
Original, stay away from HD.

>>376705312
Yes however I never once managed to unlock the ultimate ability. The strict skill requirement list and the random nature of level ups meant it was always better to focus on more immediate useful skills instead of that pie in the sky shit.

>>376705517
>That was the least of its problems.
what bigger problems were there?

>>376705607
Do you even need to ask? Look at that poor bone dragon man

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>>376705517
>They actually thought the community who played this game for years wouldn't notice they just upscaled the overworld sprites for their comparison

>>376705553
That was fixed in the last expansion. Before it, you'd usually run out of XP way before the map concludes, and shooting for the ultimate was not always worth it with how great some of the other skills were.

>>376705517
I'd say ugly new sprites is a much lesser problem than not including two whole fucking game expansions.

>>376697989
Advanced eagle eye since you won't waste another skill slot, but it is really just making the best of a bad situation because that implies you got eagle eye in the first place

>>376705517
>that new skelebro
What the fuck

>>376705517
did they just use map sprites

>>376705708
worst thing is even though these are overworld sprites they made the background look like they aren't.

>>376696359
>>376696581

Two times according to the wiki.

>>376705817
They tried to pass off the original overworld map sprites as the combat map sprites to make the comparison with the new ones look better, yes.

>>376705745
No point in more content when the basics are fucked up already.

>>376705936
this can't be right

>>376705517
Nothing could match this for the award of biggest false advertising.

>>376705517
Why does a lot of modern spritework have that disgusting matte blurred look that makes it look like some shitty Chink sweatshop art?

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>>376706074

It is technically but I should have kept reading down for the expert effect which brings it to 4.

>>376705936
>>376706235

The lower tier effects may as well not be there since there is no way a skill as vital as Air magic (hello mass haste) will ever be left unmaxed for long.

I love homm3 but am curious about the others in the series, which ones should I avoid? I recently tried out 5 and it didn't feel right.

>>376706363
5 is the best one, so if you didn't like it the series just isn't for you.

>>376706349

Yeah, I realised that myself as well. I only read the basic effect of the spell initially for some reason. My bad.

>>376706363
5 is one of the good ones. 2, 3, 5 are solid, 4 is polarizing, some love it some hate it. Avoid the rest.

>>376706401

(you)

>>376706438

5 with expansions being the best one isn't even that unpopular of an opinion. It's the second most popular game in the series.

>>376706401
>>376706431
Maybe I'll give it another shot, I just got turned off by the artstyle and didn't get the hang of the gameplay at first, started thinking maybe I remembered wrong when I thought people recommended 5.

>>376697657
He's in Crag tier.

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Strongest Creature in every Heroes of Might and Magic title coming through.

>>376706363
1 is a primitive game, don't play it.
2 is good, but no reason to play it since 3 is better in every aspect.
4 was quite good in my opinion, but it's quite different from the previous installments. You need to see for yourself if you can enjoy it.
5 was also good, but I didn't enjoyed it that much because it's slower than Heroes 3 and 4. Also I agree with you, I also didn't liked the artstyle.
Avoid 6 and 7.

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>>376705517
>dat bone dragon
Every time.

>>376706701
Not really. Their massive stats get countered by the player having spells and their own stat bonuses while their 30k cost along with mercury means they will lose to an equivalent value in purchased stacks every single time. The neutral dragons are for show boating the thieves guild and that's it.

I haven't played these games since I was a kid
Do I start with the Long Live the Queen campaign?

>>376707040
If you want to ease in start with Heroes Chronicles.

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Which faction do you prefer in HoMM 7, /v/?

Just bought the game and thought I start a campaign with Dungeon. The dragons look good.

ELDER GOD TIER
Stronghold theme, Menu theme, Combat 4, CampainMusic11

GOD TIER
Fortress theme, Inferno theme, Tower theme, Snow terrain, Rough terrain, Combat 1,

HIGH TIER
Necropolis theme, Dirt terrain, Lava terrain, Combat 2, Combat 3, AI theme 1, Good theme

GOOD TIER
Rampart theme, AI theme 2, Neutral theme, CampainMusic06

MEDIOCRE TIER
Grass terrain, Water, Swamp terrain, AI theme 3, Evil theme

FORGETTABLE TIER
The rest

BAD TIER
Castle theme, Dungeon theme, Underground terrain, Sand terrain

SHIT TIER
Conflux theme, Win Scenario theme

>>376707326
Where are the rest of resources, anon?

>>376707326
I prefer the uninstall faction

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>>376707326
>decide to look at homm7
>none of the factions are interesting

>>376706571
The artstyle is pretty shit. But it's a pretty good game, I like how the unique mechanics for the factions actually mostly feel relevant

>>376693407

>Fortress
>Lord Haart

Even if I'd 100% hate living in a swamp, I like how the various creatures there probably love it and get along great with each other. It's also cool how they get a huge carnivorous plant and their grail structure, and I really love the Mesoamerican pyramids-castle.

OVERLORD TIER

HOMAM IV OST

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>>376695749
>int

>Attack enemy hero
>Enemy has fast units so its their turn first.
>Hero casts Armageddon.
>Flees
Why did they program the AI to be cunts?

>>376700027

One flavor thing I really loved in IV was that the combination of your first two (main) skills determined your hero's title, and gave some sort of bonus. So then Nobility + Chaos Magic made your hero a Witch King. Tactics + Offensive made him General I think, and so on. I wish more games did that.

>>376693332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFwMI5pkS_o

>>376708801
Nobody is stupid enough to dispute that.

Why are these games so hard, i played the first level of homm4 on normal difficulty and i got literally shitstomped, ai just dumped it on me

>>376708801

>start up HoMMIV
>this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOx7t8_UXPk pumps me the fuck up
>actually play it and wonder what the fuck happened

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>>376709439
>fortress theme kicks in

>>376707326
It's really unfortunate that the UI is bugged and it doesn't show all your resources but the game is still good Right?
Right?

>>376693407
Fortress is the best when it comes to XXL maps

>Cheap as fuck
>Quantity over quality

>>376708801
Why did such a good OST and map editor get stuck with such a shit game?

>>376700725
>not having "even more skellies" coupled with the artifact set for "even more power liches"

>>376709524

That's pretty impressive considering that HoMM IV AI is so garbage that it can't leave it's base half the time.

It makes me sad how broken HoMM4 is. It could have been the best of the series.

>Computer takes out your hero automatically
>Forced to have Grandmaster Combat just to ensure your Hero doesn't die
>Nature is overpowered to a nose dive
>Horrendous units like Golem Dragons, Paladins, Minotaurs, Ogre Magi

>>376710990
>Paladins

Meant Champions.

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I never really played this game "seriously" before. Just fooled around with friends and/or vs AI. I don't mean I wanna play it "competitively" like some no-fun allowed autist. I'd just want to put some more thoughts into my game decisions.

Like, for example, what the best(tter) starting heroes for every town would be? Aside from logistics, should I go full attack/defense, or maybe full spellpower? Are heroes with tier 1 units specializations better than heroes specializing at tier 5-6? Etc.

>>376710990
>Ai wont ever buy units from portal
Why didnt they fixed it yet

>>376710990
Golem Dragons were a cool concept though.

>>376711158
You need to have your priorities checked to get good.

From important to least important

>Resourcers
>Levelling up Hero
>Scouting
>Buying units
>Upgrading units

Quantity over quality is the key. Some units like Gargoyles don't need to be upgrades because it's expensive.

>>376711450
HoMM4 had great ideas but the execution was awful.

Golem Dragons should have had Instant kill chance to make them more useful like those Fish Monsters or Medusa

Champions are only good if you have a straight line to rush. I guess in the hands of a pro they are useful.

I understand the concept of Ogre Magi but they should have made Cyclops weaker to make the choice more difficult.

>>376711158
>>376711552
This
You also have to learn how to play around the AI to avoid losses while killing neutrals.

>>376711710
Honestly I hated Stronghold, or "Might" in IV in general.

>>376711753
Don't you "this" me. I asked you if I should pick Galthran or Vidomina over Moandor and Sandro.

>>376711761
>over 500 Berserkers

HUE HUE HUE

I tried getting into 3 a few weeks ago and kept getting my ass handed to me in the early game before I could really do anything. I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to turtle for a few weeks to build up a army.


Also is there a HD patch for 4? The gog version runs like shit on my computer.

>>376711965
Heroes 3 is one of those games that takes time and patience to get good.

My advice is to think ahead of turns.

>>376711552
>not upgrading 1 gargoyle to always win the first round

>>376711965
>Scout the entire map to level up your Hero and get resources
>Minimize the casualties against Neutral

Think of it like chess. You need to control the board in order to win. Put your opponent into corner and force him to retaliate.

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>>376693332
>Tazar

To bad Fortress are fucking shit. Mephala is best hero.
>tfw you have indestructible battle dorfs guarding your Grand elves

>>376711761
Might is for faggots

>Berserkers taking out everyone
>Cyclops
>Nomads' First Strike

Order is the only which can take them out without massive casualties.

>>376697123
Everything except town music and battle music are stock music samples though.

>>376712958
>mass curse
easy peasy

>>376697668
>fanfiction tier
In what way?
The empire the town is based on is actually a part of the H3 story.
You fight their faction in some standard campaign but theyre just castle units. Now they're the seafaring people they've been refered to in the story.

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>>376711158

>>376713428
I don't remember the Regnan pirates having water sprites, giant armored lizards with pikes and sea serpents on their island in Might and Magic 8.

>>376700027
Agreed. Me and my brother actually played quite a lot of H4, too bad 3DO ran out of money and never got to finish the game.

>>376700203
Also this. They really fucked up the balance badly on the heroes.

>>376713613
Ayy lets have a faction with 7 different variations of a pirate man