DW9

>>376684308
Can't wait until the Empires edition.

>>376684308
Who ZHANG LIAO here?

>>376684308
Wait, I actually just googled this. Open world? I am genuinely curious now.

Wu > Wei > Shu

>>376684308
can they for the love of god add parrying and dodging so its not just wailing on easy-mode retards for hours? Like how cool would these games be if they had ninja gaiden combat?

>>376686350
Wei>Wu>Shu
Prove me wrong

awesome cant wait to play a game ive played before

>>376686628
wu > wei > shu

>>376686523
if they did that theyd have to put effort into enemy ai which would take away from the waifu budget which is where their sales come from

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>>376684308
Is it coming to pc tho so I can pirate it

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>>376684308
>open world

NANI?!

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Wu ready for /justice/ here?

>>376686953
Fuck'n kek

>>376686721
DW was never about skill anyway.
It's about grinding your way through thousands of Chinese people and cheesing bosses.

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>>376687108
>justice

>>376687291
yea well i guess it was never about being a good game either!!!! pwned!!!

>>376686350
>>376686628
>>376686680
lol nobody likes shu

>>376686953
yes it is

>>376687108
this guy was actually a lawless bandit.

funny how they characterized him as somekind of lawbringer.

>>376687108
Ma Chao was one of the biggest scumbags of the era, and that's saying a lot for a time when playing baby football was the norm

I'm a little worried they're going to fuck up free mode because of the open world and set character eras.

But otherwise looks great.

>>376684308
CHENG FUCKING PU CONFIRMED

>>376686350
>>376686628
Shu is the best faction. Koihime Musou agrees.

The real question is how will open world translate into Empires? I only get Empires now a days anyway.

>>376687319
>tfw buried herself and daughter in shit to protect themselves

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.

I really loved Samurai Warriors 4 a while back, so I got SW4 Empires when it was on sale last week, and I fucking suck at it, I tried three times and lost my very first battle every time, on normal difficulty

Am I just garbage or does it start out rough? The first and second times I underestimated enemy officers and how hard it would be to find healing, and the third time everything seemed to be going fine until an enemy commander went right into my main camp while my officers were all doing who knows what

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>>376684308
I hope it comes to PC.

>>376691314
>dashin' up the walls comin' to fondle your balls

>>376687291
You definitely play on easy. It takes the same skill to play GoW or Bayonetta when you toss a warriors game on the harder difficulties, even with a leveled character.

I don't understand how they intend to do this shit 'open world'.

I expect horribly.

>>376691589
Yeah, I have the same feeling. I don't really understand the point of open world. Musou is about battles so why don't improve on combat, animations, level design, maybe actually make battles real like your and enemy troops actually fighting, I don't know. But open world? For what reason?

>>376691665
China will grow larger

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>>376691589
It's been addressed some more in Famitsu.

>>376691686
Seriously i'd like it better if instead they did 'Zones' like in Shadow of Mordor, and each "Zone" was a battlefield/fortress area. And they let you scout out places to position troops, prepare for battles and shit. Skirmish with bandits and enemy scouts before battles, and then fill it all with units

>>376691449
Nope I'm a veteran of the game, but even I know it doesn't require skill.
Literally spam until you get your musou bar and then deal damage.
Also sanic behind the enemy to cheese him.
I'd say the sweet spot is hard mode for enjoyment so you can still grind upgrades.

>>376691829
>back to character-based story
>with 83 characters

yeah. so we're looking at handful of important ones getting their stories?

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>>376684308
Is Spirit of Sanada any good or is it just an anniversary cash grab?

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>>376691589
Just take a look at Dragon Quest Heroes 2 for a better idea.
However I'm worried it might be quite boring if you don't have a party with you.

>>376691960
The challenge in most musou games comes from it turning into a forest-fire simulator at the higher difficulties.
You need to learn to recognize event flags (go to postion X, kill commanders(s) N, etc.) and trigger them ASAP.
Also realizing that the AI behaves differently and are actually useful when off-screen. Hence you need to balance event flags with rescuing them if they're in trouble.

>>376692150
>anniversary cash grab
this

>>376691686
>Musou is about battles
What was the last musou you played? 5?

>>376692349
SW4E

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>>376692150
it's kinda just another spin-off unless you've been watching the show, but yukimura is difficult to hate and we'll see some shit for the first time like more rpg elements, aging characters, etc.

>>376692150
>>376692498
>dat OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4h_4iLCBZ0

I'm ready for the suicide mission with best waifu Kunoichi by my side.

>>376691665
China will shrink smaller

>>376692150
OYAKATA-SAMA

>>376692237
I hardly found running from point A to point B difficult.
I only had trouble unlocking special routes when I didn't have internet.

>>376692237
It's apparently going to be more based on Toukiden 2's open world.

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>>376689078
This is historically correct. But /v/s contarians can't handle the truth sadly.
But does it really surprise anyone that /v/ identifies themselves with the losers in the scenario? I don't even remember what they're called. Something with W and there's i in there somewhere I think...

>>376692749
Yeah, but you've gotta weigh out whether you have time to go to B or not when you have like 2 other allies being fucked by mooks and enemy commanders at chokepoints.
It's more about risk/time management than anything.
Then if you pump up the difficulty to max, you have to deal with the AI's bullshit recovery, instagib-damage and super-armor.

>>376691589
>>376691686
DW's stages have always been semi-open worlds players would traverse in. Many games that go ow, have already been ow by "thought".
I know that it doesn't help when you prefer the "tight" design of everything being withing a couple of steps and deliberately placed.
But if Koei keeps their general design principles, then DW9s open world, would be nothing but removing the boarders.

>>376692924
This is a very benevolent post

>>376691829
That's an insane list of changes for a core Musou game. I did find it funny how they had to point out "yes, Musou mode is still in" as if that would get removed.

>>376693030
>>376692237
Which is why they better be implementing the "switch commanders" gimmick into DW9.
Shit was gold for clearing objectives.

Fuck I'm actually pretty hyped for this

Wonder how long each game of story mode lasts considering you probably have to win it a hundred times for the platinum

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>>376684308
>no HYPE music on the site

>>376692498
there;s a show?

Considering all the practice Omega Force has had making vidyagaems over the recent past I think DW9 will be rather proficiently done.

No Switch version, no buy.

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>>376693390
Yes.

>>376693452
Considering they have been developing it and announcing it for 2-3 years now, I think proficiency is not notable.

>>376693489
I know right?

No N-gage version, no buy.

>>376693452
biggest thing is they got to try all the new ideas

>mardan rush in arslan game
>greater focus on story in berserk
>varied as fuck character movesets in zelda and pirate warriors

all of these could be applied to core series' now in some capacity

hope thye bring back DW6 lu bu

>>376693682
All of those except Zelda were fucking aweful though

>>376693779
>wanting Hu-lu hoop Lu Bu
>Hu-Lu Bu

>>376693682
>varied as fuck character movesets in zelda and pirate warriors
This is all that matters. But the characters you like the most, will end up with the shittiest movesets. As is tradition.

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>mfw me and my sworn brothers will bring prosperity to the people once again

Copy pasting all info here for lazy people:

Open World - Overall
The reason why the team decides to make DW9 as Open World is they're taking challenges to make new things because as of the last numbered title (DW8), the series is coming to a stale.
DW9's Open World system takes some references from Toukiden 2, but it won't be the exact same because the nature of Open World in each games are different.
They plan to reproduce the whole lands of China, but with a focus on livable territories, and a further focus on places where major battles took place like Hulao Gate or Zhongyuan (Central Plains, Guandu etc)
Time & Weather will be changing in real time. In nighttime and/or rain it will be harder for enemies to notice the player.

Open World - Cities
There will be over 10 major unique cities along with more generic towns & villages in the world map.
The major unique cities such as Luoyang won't be as big as they were actually, but each area will be about 1 kilometer square wide so they should still feel large.
Player can move into cities in the middle of battles.
Player should be also able to do purchases inside cities.

Open World - Transportation
The main method for land transportation is by riding a horse, but a Fast Travel feature that lets player warp to places already visited is also planned to be added. *NEW*
Swimming is confirmed returning from DW6. Player can also cross large rivers like Chang Jiang and Yellow River, although it may take about 5 minutes by swimming.
Boats are also available as a faster transportation method to cross rivers.

Story Progression
Story mode is back to character-based (like pre-DW7), but the history progression is basically the same for each character (like pre-DW6).
There will be no What-If/Hypothetical branches that alter history here.
Story progression is based on eras (Yellow Turban Rebellion, Anti-Dong Zhuo Coalition, and so on).
There will be also conversation scenes based on Three Kingdoms events that can take place in the open world at each era. *NEW*
The starting & ending eras will depend on the selected character. For example if you choose Wang Yuanji she will start in an era later than where Zhao Yun would start at. *NEW*
Switching the player character in mid-game is currently still under consideration. Characters of the same era & faction (eg. Zhao Yun & Guan Yu) should have few problems to switch between, but the problem arises if the character is in a different era (eg. Zhao Yun to Jiang Wei) and also different faction (eg. Wang Yuanji) because they would have to re-introduce the new settings again. *NEW*
Discussions in the world map will be pertaining to that era. For example if you go to Nanman during Yellow Turban Rebellion era, you will hear Nanman people talking about Zhang Jiao.
Some features in the open world & cities will get upgraded through story progression to keep game balance from being broken by money (read: Not everything will be buyable by money) *NEW*

>>376693919
>as of the last numbered title (DW8), the series is coming to a stale.
>as of the last title

NIGGER THEY BEEN MAKING THE SAME GAME FOR OVER A DECADE IT'S BEEN STAGNANT SINCE 4 OR 5

Battles & Missions
Each era has a critical mission that must be cleared to advance the era. (eg. Defeat Zhang Jiao in YTR era to advance to Dong Zhuo era) *NEW*
The critical mission starts with having a high difficulty, but it can be lowered by clearing other regular missions related to the critical mission beforehand. *NEW*
An example of the application of Critical & Regular mission is as following in the Anti-Dong Zhuo Coalition era: *NEW*
-Critical Mission - Luoyang Riot (Allied Forces): Defeat Dong Zhuo in Luoyang
-Regular Mission - Hulao Gate Capture: Defeat Lu Bu in Hulao Gate
In this case, the player can head straight away to fight Dong Zhuo in Luoyang, but unless you cleared the Hulao Gate mission beforehand, Lu Bu might end up appearing at Luoyang too, hence the difference in mission difficulty.
Multiple battles may occur at the same time in different places, and the player will have to make a choice on which battle they want to participate in. They are no longer split by stages.
Player can capture castles in various ways other than the orthodox-from-castle-gate method. For example they can raid the castle from a higher elevation (eg. mountains), or do a stealth infiltration to hit the main target without getting noticed by other enemies.
Player can also take subquests unrelated to the main story missions to obtain rewards such as experience and money. *NEW*
Other examples of subquests include hunting wild animals with archery and battling against foreign tribes (eg. Shanyue) that have unique visuals.

>>376684308

A DW thread on /v/? call me surprised

Never thought I would see one on here

In any case I was surprised to hear them say it was being localized so early

You think they know its at least moderately popular outside of japan or do you think they want to spread the game as far as possible to recoup development costs?

Also all the voice actors have been great all this time but I hope so much that Zhang Liao is voiced by Roger Craig Smith again.

Timing got bad for him in dw8 xl and it was literally the only thing wrong or off with the game

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>>376694053

State Combo
In the first interview, the team indicated that they are planning to revise the moveset system from what has been commonly known as Square for normal attacks and Triangle for charge attacks.
State Combo is the new moveset system that will change moves depending on the surrounding enemy situations.
State Combo is comprised of the following 3 attacks:
-Trigger attack: Begins the combo
-Flow attack: Combo that changes based on enemy situations
-Finish attack: Powerful attack that ends the combo
There are several types of Trigger attacks confirmed that will cause enemies to be as described: *NEW*
-Blowaway Trigger: Blows enemies away
-Juggle Trigger: Juggles enemies to the air
-Toppling Trigger: Topples enemies down to ground
Variations of Flow attacks are also confirmed: *NEW*
-Drive Flow: Attacks that pursue enemies that were blown away
-Aerial Flow: Character jumps to unleash aerial attacks on enemies mid-air
A couple of State Combo examples: *NEW*
-Blowaway Trigger → Drive Flow
-Juggle Trigger → Aerial Flow

Interactive Action
Actions will change depending on the surrounding terrains and objects.
For example, player will be able to use field objects to attack (such as catapults)
Player can also use grapple hook to climb castle walls and high mountains.
Player can utilize oil cans in field to cause explosions by shooting them with an arrow from far away.

>>376694090
>dat reddit spacing
Also where have you been?(on reddit obviously) We've had threads every day since the info got out.

Interactive Action
Actions will change depending on the surrounding terrains and objects.
For example, player will be able to use field objects to attack (such as catapults)
Player can also use grapple hook to climb castle walls and high mountains.
Player can utilize oil cans in field to cause explosions by shooting them with an arrow from far away.

Other Action Revisions & Additions
The team has indicated that they want to keep some other systems like Musou attack to retain the exhilarating feel of one-vs-thousand
(Note: In DW8, all characters have 1st Musou, 2nd Musou, Aerial Musou and Awakening Musou)
Archery mode from DW5 & before is returning & usable for all characters. It also lets the player to snipe enemies from afar.
However rather than FPS from DW5 & before, Archery mode in DW9 seems to use TPS (third-person shooting) view just like in Nioh. *NEW*
It's implied that the free weapon system from DW7-8 will be returning, where characters can equip any weapon types but equipping their main weapon type will allow exclusive moves. *NEW*
(However it's still unknown if the weapon switch system will also return or not)

Miscellaneous
On 31 March 2017, Producer Suzuki held a poll on Twitter asking if the fans prefer Liu Bei with mustache or not. The poll ended with the mustache winning 67% of the votes.
Producer Suzuki also said to use the poll comments as reference, in which many are suggesting both versions of Liu Bei (young without mustache & older with mustache) to appear in DW9, just like in SW: Spirit of Sanada.
Character models are being reworked from scratch to fit PS4-grade graphic standards.
Characters' new costumes in DW9 will have a tendency of getting less flashier and more geared towards realistic based on the costumes in Three Kingdoms era.
Character models are to be made much closer like real human, but not too realistic because otherwise their images would end up becoming too different from past series.

>>376693919
>>376693987
>>376694072
>>376694127
wtf is this shit now? Seriously, kill yourself.

Hopefully they add in cool shit to make the open world more engaging like peasants sucking your dick when you walk through a village as Liu Bei or absolutely shitting themselves if you're Zhang Liao in Wu country

NARRATION INTENSIFIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEJTEMqPJ8

>dat feel when they actually took him out

>>376694239
>tfw your horse breaks out and runs into a field and you have to kill yourself

>>376694257
Cao Cao is my nigga.

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>>376694257
>>376694324
Disgusting

>>376694232
No. Will never do that.

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>>376694193
>reddit spacing

We're hitting some dangerous levels of delusions of grandeur here

>>376694375
Meh. You'll die soon enough. But stop spamming threads in the meantime :^)

>>376686628
>giving the time of day to imbeciles

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>>376691829
Combat system changes seems iffy. Making all attacks context-based sounds retarded.

I really can't see how open world benefits a game like DW. I don't understand how proper mission design, strategies and managing the flow of the whole army will work without defined stages.

Story progression makes it sound like it'll be really easy to skip large parts by just rushing the main mission in each era. Even if it's difficult (read: enemy health/damage inflated out the ass) it'll probably still be doable.

At least we're finally getting Cheng Pu and Liu Bei's mustache back.

>>376684308
Ayy something new. I wonder if sony paid a deal to make it exclusive on the ps4 or another "timed" exclusive

but will it have LU BU?

>>376686012
fpbp

>>376694498
>Making all attacks context-based sounds retarded.
I'm thinking the same. If you throw someoen into the air but wanna keep attacking the guys that stood right next to him, I can see the game having you jump anyway due to the context.
>I really can't see how open world benefits a game like DW
>>376693059

>>376686012
this, call me when I can be a shota who's beheading the men left and right and fucking their women

>>376694575
>>376686012
>DW9 Empires edition
>due to the open world you can now freely manage cities and villages
>Finally the Rotk DW hybrid we deserve
Don't get my hopes up

>>376694673
Empires game is why I'm more excited by this whole open world than anything else. If implemented properly this would be an ever bigger game changer for Empires than series proper.

>>376694498
The open world seems pretty cool honestly, I'd like to see what the nanman are up to during chi bi or to ignore the frontline as Dong Zhuo to go hunt down sluts on the other side of china

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>>376694498

>Mustache Liu Bei

PREPOSTEROUS...

Lol did you see it somewhere or was it just mentioned?

>>376684308
Samurai Warriors 5 with the same stuff
when
I have no interest in chinese history.

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>>376694498
I think you might be confusing "open world" for Bethesda style "you can go ANYWHERE" approach. Even if that was Omega's intent China is too big for that so you'll most likely get some big open maps to wander through while important missions are separate on their own maps precisely becuase you need tighter scenario control.

>>376694895
>muh folded steel
kys

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>>376694875
let's hope it's not his old pedostache

>>376694994
>muh chi bi
End yourself

>>376692237
Man Koei made that engine work all the way until the end, with HW, and DQ really straining the fucker and DQH2 specifically tearing the engine apart on almost all machines.

>open world shit
>keeping that clusterfuck of a character roster

into the trash

>>376694606
But what purpose does removing the borders serve? It essentially just means you're running between stages instead of selecting them from a menu which might sound neat but gets old fucking quick. The games are split into missions so that the gameplay is controlled and delivered in a way that lets you have fun. Preset missions let you design a battle flow that the player can move with, keeping the combat gameplay flowing while still allowing for objectives and strategies. Taking an "open" approach just doesn't really make sense for the series.

>>376695017
If the game is era based then we might see some aging mechanic.
So early Liu Bei is clean shaven and old Liu Bei has the stache .

>>376688595
Only took how many years?

Then again it took forever to get Yu Jin and Yue Jin as well.

>>376694875
The famitsu information says that in a fan poll, mustached liu bei won over clean shaven liu bei 67 - 33. The producer then hinted that both versions might appear depending on the era (i.e. older liu bei grows the mustache).

>>376695185

Ah almost forgot they do polls on the game sometime

Thanks for the reply

>>376695113
>But what purpose does removing the borders serve?
>Taking an "open" approach just doesn't really make sense for the series.
Yes it does because it enables connectivity, more interactivity and allowes for generally larger battlefields which would be more realistic. You could now take a unit and ride all the way around the enemy for example. Deploy actual tactics.
Not to mention that many people like what you call "running between stages" due to the immersion it provides, as opposed to going by menues. I mean yeah if you prefer the arcade style of this obviously arcade game, then it sounds like a stupid idea. But don't be surprised when many welcome the change.

>>376694934
What's the point of an open world if it's just a glorified stage selector?

Open worlds should only be used for games with a focus on exploration or which have an objective structure that supports the openness (i.e. the gameplay uses the entire world instead of just pockets of it that you travel between). It definitely doesn't make sense for a series which focuses on semi-historical battles at specific locations. The fuck is up with the "hunting sidequest" stuff too? That's the last sort of thing I expect to be doing in DW.

Maybe the open world would work for an Empires style game where the objective is to personally command armies and conquer territory, but for story mode it sounds like a bad idea.

>>376684308
Holy shit Nice!! Pumped as fuck for this

>>376695113
Have you played Toukiden 2? I think that was OF's first open world and it is complete fucking dogshit. There's no point in having it at all. It's just an excuse to run around before you get to do the exact same gameplay you do in the mission based design. They're just doing it because it's the current fad, not because it adds anything to the game.

>>376695453
>(i.e. the gameplay uses the entire world instead of just pockets of it that you travel between). It definitely doesn't make sense for a series which focuses on semi-historical battles at specific locations
I think thats exactly what they're changing though. Instead of stages that vaguely resemble their historical counterparts, we now get the actual enviroments(or at least get much closer to it) with an open setting that allows for more tactical and different approaches.

I get what you're saying about story mode though. The battle of XY was the battle of XY and not the battle of "let me just walk over here real quick"

>>376695585
>I think that was OF's first open world and it is complete fucking dogshit.
it was great though. you sound like the guy from the last thread thats still mad that he got btfo. also
>open world
>fad
lmao you're gonna have a bad time in the future

>>376694895
What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm huge raging weeb, and I even I'd agree that Three Kingdoms>Sengoku period. I mean the Three Kingdoms battles alone make the Sengoku ones look like some small scale skirmishes.

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It's coming to pc right?

>>376695662
>you sound like the guy from the last thread thats still mad that he got btfo
What?

>it was great though
What was great about it? Doing walking simulator shit before fighting? Why not just play 5 minutes of Gone Home or Dear Esther between each mission of Monster Hunter and you'll have the same experience.

>>376695853
>Why not just play 5 minutes of Gone Home or Dear Esther between each mission of Monster Hunter and you'll have the same experience.
>that projection
Shhhh its fine

>>376693554
Is it a GOOD show?

>>376695927
Good argument, retard.

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I've been reading Kingdom and The Ravages of Time.

Is this game basically those but in video game format?

>>376695949
Well. It's a Taiga drama. You already know whether you like it or not based on that. I'd say yes, it's alright.

>>376695962
Thank you

>>376696038

Nah, it's way more stupid.

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>>376696038
You should just watch Three Kingdoms. Failing everything else entire series is on Youtube.

>>376696139
Is this it?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms_(TV_series)

>>376696139
>>376696038

You really should

>>376696219
Yup. 2010 version.

>>376696139
>>376696219
As someone who's only read the books, how is the show? I've seen screencaps on here since it came out, but I never actually bothered with it.
What exactly does it include and what does it cut? In broad terms.

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>tfw no hypotheticals
>tfw open world game where your favorite character dies like two battles after being introduced and you'll be forced to start over as someone else

I don't really know how I feel about this.

>>376696038
>The Ravages of Time

Where can i find a good scans/translation of this. I tried to read it ages ago, but i could only find really shit quality

>>376694498
>proper mission design, strategies and managing the flow of the whole army
None of this is present in modern DW games though.
>Combat system changes seems iffy
Yes, but when you remember how combat is braindead square-square-triangle now, I think literally anything will be better if they don't fuck it up horribly somehow and make it even worse.

>>376695585
Toukiden 2's open world is a huge improvement over teleporting you into an area to fight big guy.

It's not skyrim tier but makes for better presentation and it's nice to look at and explore.

>>376696465
I'm actually glad the "what if" shit is gone. But what you say is true about those characters. But I think the open world setting will (hopefully) counter that by giving you tons of things to do. And since its based on Eras(clear the main mission, advance to a different era) you can probably go back to a previous era to clear side objectives do other things in the world with that character

>>376696341
It cuts a lot of the smaller battles out and they're just mentioned as happening offscreen. Biggest omission is everything after Sima Yi's coup though. Which is probably for the best since it kind of stops being interesting when all the heroes die off.

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>DW games will never have bad voice acting again

>>376693095
and we still get people complaining about musou games being same shit
and they will never stop shitposting

>>376693118
they have SW for that

>>376694403
I TIRE OF YOUR PRESENCE

This seems like the right thread to ask this
Sell me on gettitng the Fame and Strategy expansion for ROTK XIII. It's seems pretty expensive to me

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>>376696219
>Sima Yi is saved by a downpour at Shangfang Valley

IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO END LIKE THIS. MUH STRATEGIES

>>376696657
I personally loved the changes that DW8 made from DW7.

All those new musous, new weapons and new characters made the gameplay a lot more fun.

>>376696619
Personally I've always liked the hypothetical stuff. Most of my best memories of this series are how stupid the cutscenes are in DW3/4 by bringing the wrong characters into a mission.

I expect if this formula is successful they'll reintroduce that stuff in the next game though.

>>376696496
"Ravages of Time Eng" is the group currently translating it. You can find it on various manga hosters. The last chapter was only a week ago. The older stuff is still in low quality though, but if you can pull through that then it gets better.

>>376696781
yeah, it was nice
never understood people's problem with iteration releases. Those people hardly satisfied with changes anyway.
Why fix what isn't broken? Just polish stuff people love.
Still, I do look forward to DW9, seems like fun concept.

What happened to this song? Why did they remove it? I remember DW3 on Guan Yu's escape hearing this song for the first time and my dick was rock hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS86BFEm_N8

>>376696465
Depends entirely on what and how open world will turn out. There's also the matter of time advancing now as certain events play out, etc. We might end up not even missing Dream Mode if they play their cards right.

>>376696782

They alway do something retarded when they change things up.

But this series reeeeeally needed a refresher.

>DW"insert number here"
>Prototype, beta/early acess
>DW"insert number here": Xtreme Legends
>The game we should've got alongside the former
>DW"insert number here": Empires
>the actual GOAT

You know this to be true.

Just think about this
can they fuck up as bad as they did with DW6?

>>376697146
Absolutely.

>>376697146
Of course.

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>>376696754
That scene where Sima Yi and his army all start singing, as they await their fate, has to be one of my favorite moments in the entire series.

>>376697146
Considering DW6 was probably their most ambitious game and they tried all sorts of new things that nearly all completely backfired, yep its entirely possible this game will even end up worse.

>>376696570
Quite the contrary, it's a massive downgrade that adds nothing but like an hour of senseless running to the game overall instead of letting you do the actual goddamn gameplay. How is it nice to explore? What do you get out of exploration?

>>376697270
The context-based combat system sounds like its going to be the biggest risk to me. Say what you want about musou combat, at least your character does what you want and expect them to when you press the buttons.

>>376696570
This. Contrary to contrarian opinion, open world generally enhances things by giving the game connectivity and more immersion.

>>376697270
t.Monster Hunter cuck.

>>376697270
>like an hour of senseless running
Haven't even played the game have we?

>>376697387
meant for >>376697262

>>376697270
Maybe it sucks in Toukiden but it works pretty well in DQ Heroes 2. I think its really gonna depend on how much they give you to do outside of the important battles.

>>376697387
Yeah, everything else sounds great to me, but this one, I'm not so sure about.

>>376697132
Empires has always been my favourite, and to be honest some of the features should have been implemented in the main game.

>>376697443
You're right, it might be more than that. Good point, son.

>>376697480
Traversal is the key. Every open world that is good, has great means of traversal. Witcher 3 for example. In which your horse would automatically stick to the paths and that often gave you "lets go there now" or "I'm gonna go there on my own" options.

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>>376697262
>DW6
>ambitious

No, problem with DW6 was that it was their attempt to curb the growing number of characters by unifying as many as possible under shared movesets and players freaked out over it. Just like with the upcoming game DW6 was also responsible for giving the characters a facelift for the new generation.

>>376697480
>I think its really gonna depend on how much they give you to do outside of the important battles.
It'll be those shitty 2-5 minute missions you get in Empires as a Vagrant. Help a shitty village from bandits, escort a carriage etc.

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>>376697629
>>376697270
>>376695585
Literally pic related.

>>376697632
>auto-pilot railroading to let the game play itself and being able to quick travel every chance you get to practically defeat the point of an open world

Is this your idea of a good one or a bad one?

How did it take them this long to put Cheng Pu in? Fucking Koei.

>>376697760
>options are bad
Why am I not surprised? Contrarians being contrarians I guess.

>>376697653
>Just like with the upcoming game DW6 was also responsible for giving the characters a facelift for the new generation.
The difference being that the less flashy designs are something people have been asking for some time now. So its not something out of the blue that slaps people in the face

Is Rot3K XIII decent or trash? I enjoyed all the PS2 era ones and XI.

>>376697880
Depends on who you ask. I hated it but it grew on me. The PC version seems to get fucked over and over again by Koei it seems.

>>376697816
I don't give a shit what you like it, you can play QTE cinematic games and walking sims all day for all I care, but you didn't make it clear if the design you described is your example of a good one or a bad one. Which is it?

>>376697880
X and XI are still the best in my opinion. I disliked ROTK XII but this one is okay.

>>376697934
>but you didn't make it clear if the design you described is your example of a good one or a bad one
I'm also not surprised at your lack of reading comprehension. Finish school first anon. Then come back and maybe we talk.
>I don't give a shit
kek

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>>376697880
it's decent, mixed between RPG and strategy, you can marry maximum 3 wives if i remember right

>>376697975
>>376697929
Does it give you more options for treaties, alliance and confrontations over 11? I felt 11 was great, but was pretty simplified.

>>376697929
>>376697975
How is the PS4 version then?

>>376698034
Are you actually retarded? You said great means of traversal is the key to a well working open world. And then you list traversal types designed for a braindead monkey. You just said it's an example, not that it's an example of a good one or an example that serves to show a shit open world with terrible traversal options to emphasize your point.

>kek
yeah indeed le ebin kekkers my fellow twelve year old xD

>>376697653
The move set shit happened precisely because they were to ambitious; they decided motion capture was the future but couldn't actually afford to do it for the entire cast.

>>376698432
>yeah indeed le ebin kekkers my fellow twelve year old xD
Yeah thats your niveau. Also, stop you so butthurt grandpa.

Are we gonna keep all the weapons from 8XL? It feels like they're gonna do a bunch of clone shit again

>>376697805

They probably wanted another Guan faggot, but I guess someone with more sense put his foot down after Zhou Cang.

>>376698558
>haha u mad

Why am I not surprised? Twelve year old being a twelve year old I guess.

>>376698243
I doubt anyone's played it since it's due for localised release later this year.

>>376697805
>Cheng Pu is playable in Dynasty Warriors before [your favorite character] in [your favorite game with a roster]

>>376698563
Guan Yinping, Ping and Xing are fine in my book. What I don't like is the Suo faggot or Sanniang, those two should've never been added.

>>376698649
>Why am I not surprised?
Literally copying the other's sentences is the holy grail of butthurt. Thanks for the (you)s I guess.

>>376698562
Clone shit probably. Cheng Pu's weapon is already confirmed to be a double pike, which is the same kind of weapon Zhang Fei uses in 8.

In some ways it sucks but honestly I wouldn't be sad to lose shit like the fucking rocket lance and machine gun weapons.

>>376698726
>haha u mad

An exciting turn of events.

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>>376698773
Jesus christ, stop shitting up the thread already.

>>376698739
This could just mean they are giving him his old spear back. It's fucking retarded he had a double sided one to begin with considering the book outright describes his weapon.

>>376698870
You first, laddie.

>>376698929
Imagine a world in which there would be no cloned weapons. A world in which Koei sits down and says "lets actually put some effort in this one!"

>>376698686
Why do people like Guan Ping so much?

It's been years since I played 5 but I don't remember him doing anything spectacular in it and ever since all he does is get his gf stolen by Liu Shan then die off screen to get sympathy for Guan Yu

>>376698739
>Cheng Pu's weapon is already confirmed to be a double pike
Jesus Christ. At least give the new guy a new weapon... I mean wtf?
>>376698870
Learn to ignore the fags.

>>376699005
Well, the way this context sensitive attacks are described it probably isn't that hard to give everyone visually different weapons and just have them act mostly identical. This is what I'm afraid of.

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>>376691829
>archery FPS mode is back
Hot damn

>>376699072
>Why do people like Guan Ping so much?
I don't like him.

I just don't hate him.

>>376699081
Cheng Pu uses a serpent spear in the book, it makes sense he has it. I have no problem with him having this weapon honestly, so long as it plays differently than Zhang Fei's.

>>376699132
Shit I haven't seen it like that, but you're right. I've already been worried about the game steering my attacks in another direction than I actually want, but thats a whole different level of concern.

>>376698739
Oh wtf. A double pike? Gay af. I'm mad rn. baka
>>376698968
Just ignore that kid. You can tell he's too retarded to come up with an argument.

>>376699245
>>376698968
Screencap this and prove you're not the same person please. Because the """quality""" of the posts are way too similar.

>>376699245
I told you to stop shitting up the thread.

>>376692924
There is much truth in your post, seifu.

>>376699426
Heaven wills it

>>376699341
>prove yourself to me on an anonymous image board!
>and my idea of proof is a screencap, which surely doesn't take 2 seconds to edit

Anon I'm so sorry for you.

i'd really much prefer if they cut the roster massively and focused on an individual characters gameplay. add more combos and make the game more fun. square square triangle got boring 20 games ago

>>376699142
Now we just need the archers from DW3 and I can relive the memories of having to pick them off from a distance, before they got the chance to rape me with their hundreds of arrows.
They usually did anyway

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>>376696754
>me on the right

>>376691829
>State Combo
LITERALLY MASH X TO WIN
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT THEY COULDN'T DUMB IT ANYMORE
WHY COULDN'T THEY TAKE A PAGE FROM SENGOKU BASARA AND INCLUDE MORE MOVES PER WEAPON-SOME OF THEM COMBOS-MADE FOR DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND SHIT
REEEEEEEEE

Archery mode might be interesting with Stealth if you can, say, snipe Xiao Dun and take his eye or kill Diaochan and make Lu Bu go fucking nuclear on the enemies while being his ally or a third party

I was just thinking yesterday that Empires would be better hub based, with the possibility of ransacking houses, stalking officers and killing them in their residences or just generally exploring each city. Reading this I feel it will be better for roleplaying but leave a shallower gameplay behind.

>>376699396
I told you you first, laddie.

>>376699524
Judging from the quality of your post, I can guess that you're too retarded to edit the image properly as well. So, I'm still waiting.
Oh and the "other anon", can chime in as well of course :^)

>>376699585
>b-bet you can't do it! :D

You're a little treasure to this board. Brightening up everyone's day with your sheer stupidity and first grader taunts. Thanks.

>>376699708
>Thanks.
You're welcome. Still waiting though.

>>376699572
It can't get any more shallow.

>>376699072
hes the original guan babby before everyone got annoyed of this shit. Can work some interesting scenarios with him trying to live up to his father then him tragically falling short of that. Or being the next generation of Shu (in what-if) and shit like that.
Overall with the state of the series, the timing of his reveal, and whats happening now, you cant help but pity the guy since his siblings took everything interesting from him.
I like him but for superficial reasons outside of DW or ROTK.

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>>376699558
>playing DW2 first time
>Hu Lao gate
>do not pursue Lu Bu
>who's this big guy? He doesn't look that tough
>die before I can even get an attack off
I really miss the Lu Bu from the older DW games, the one in the last few games has been pretty underwhelming and nowhere as fearsome.

>>376699525
>i'd really much prefer if they cut the roster massively and focused on gameplay

Same here. If there's one series that badly needs a reboot, it's this one.

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>>376699525
>i'd really much prefer if they cut the roster massively
No fuck off.
DO NOT TOUCH MY WAIFUS

>>376699783
Yeah it could. It could be bamham combat.

>>376699960
Judging from the changes, this is pretty much a reboot. They won't touch the character variety though, because too many followers like exactly that.
I wouldn't mind a spin off focusing on what, 15-20 people with deep and varied movesets though.

>>376699572
>Use one button to initiate attack
>rest is the same string and finish (square+square+triangle)
Are you dumb?

>>376699229
I wouldn't mind if lots of characters used similar/the same type of weapon as long as the actual movesets were different. Sure beats rocket siege lances, machine guns, magic pool cues and fucking boats.

>>376699962

Your waifu is shit and only good for porn

>>376700078
I disagree. The way they describe it they just added an open world to goof around in while you're not doing missions and kept everything else the exact same. We'll see how much the contextual combos matter at all but it doesn't sound like much of a game changer.

>>376695453
pheasant hunting minigame so you can get stronk bows
>>376700089
There's a big difference between using a shield breaking combo, or a move made for crowd control, or a feint to get behind the enemy send him flying and juggle him with the crowd control move. If you know well your weapon, you can pull of cuhrazee combos of upwards 100 hits on one enemy officers or infinitely on trash mobs.

>>376700284
This.

They're gonna reuse all animations with a new couple of gimmicks and add few characters so they don't have to clone and get a big backslash like what happened with DW6-7, all that with an open world spin.

People thinking is gonna be anything else are dumb.

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>>376700284
>and kept everything else the exact same.
>the exact same
>>376691829
???

>>376700407
What are some meaningful core gameplay changes to you in there that I didn't address?

>>376700570
You can trivialize changes, but they're still changes. Literally every listed aspect has changes: Story progression is changed, Battles & Missions are changed, State Combo, Interactive actions, OW.
So saying "everything else is the exact same" is just fundamentally wrong.

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>>376699906
>first time playing DW3 co-op with friend
>blitzed pass Yellow Turbans easily
>Hu Lao Gate
>Yuan Shao tells everyone do not pursue Lu Bu
>friend thinks she's tough shit
>Lu Bu does his foot stomp and almost kills her
>she starts running for her life while I run to save her
>both of us literally about to have a heart attack because of the way this cunt wouldn't give up

Facing Lu Bu for the first time is a rite of passage for any kid and if you missed out, I really feel for you guys.

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>>376700940
>she

>>376701035
Don't worry, she wasn't some qt, she was ugly as fuck and still is. Pretty sure she's a lesbian too.

Another thing they get wrong in the new DW that the old ones did right was the musou gauge. It feels like it fills up 10x faster than it did back then. I remember generating your gauge on the spot was really important, you needed to take a timeout every now and then. The newer DW titles don't have that sense of preparation anymore, your gauge builds with one combo now.

>>376700683
Yeah, by that logic you can pretend every DW is practically a reboot compared to the one before it but I doubt most people would agree.

Story progression is barely changed. You beat a mission, then you get a new mission. It's all completely linear and scripted. You have X amount of missions, and any given character can access X - the years they were inactive. It's like DW4's story mode, except DW4 didn't lock characters out and now instead of picking it in a menu, you ride to it on a large ass map. Every musou I played had contextual interactive actions like ladders, trebuchets, or shortcuts on the map you could jump to or climb. Ninjas had infiltration shit in SW2. You could even control vehicles (these rolling tiger carvings that spit fire and elephants) These changes are always expected. To call it a borderline reboot because of it? Nah.

>>376701353
I'm sorry but you just did as I said: trivialize changes.
Everything points that this will feel quite different from the previous iterations.
Maybe reboot is too strong a term, I give you that, but it does have fundamental changes.

>>376701496
Specifically what did I trivialize?

I just want this game to be released as soon as possible. That is all.

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>it's a shu get outmaneuvered and BTFO yet again so they start claiming they somehow have the moral high ground episode

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>>376700940
I started with Basara 3 so I was kind of disappointed Lu Bu was just overinflated stats instead of a rapemode AI that fully utilizes it's moveset to rip you a new one. I mean, Tadakatsu shows up, starts pursuing me, I can take on that nigger, he has superarmor, his first combo takes 3/4 of my healthbar, I start running and he uses his cannons to shoot me in the back, horee sheyyyt.
I face Lu Bu, he blocks my attacks and kills me in two hits, that's it?

>>376692734
YUKIMURAAAAAAA

>>376701586
>You beat a mission, then you get a new mission
Thats a trivialization for example. The likes of which "you press a button, then a thing happens". Because the actual progression is obviously handled different in the new enviroment.

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>>376701614

>>376691665
We will live in prosperity

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>>376696341
there's lots of little details left outDian Wei dies off screen, but the guy who plays Cao Cao nails it so well, it's well worth a marathon and is vastly superior to game of reddit and vikucks

What really matters
>moustache liu bei is back

Finally
Maybe I can finally become a shu fag, I never could take shaven liu bei seriously

>>376684308
why did they never add pvp to the DW series?

Childhood is idolising shu
Teenagehood is sympathizing with wei
Adulthood is realizing Wu makes more sense

>>376702338
>Teenagehood is sympathizing with wei
This is true. Only teenage edgelords like Wei.
Switch Shu and Wu and you got yourself a proper post.

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>>376696754
Respect your rivals

>>376701704
It's not though. They literally explain there is always one key mission on the map, the progression for them is all completely linear, and beating one unlocks the next. There are no branches or anything. It's like the old missions except you ride to them instead of picking them in a menu.

>>376702437
Shu is the flashy kingdom
>Muh god of war
>Muh morals
>Muh benevolence

Wu is a pragmatic kingdom

Which do you think appeal to kids more?

>>376702442
Can you even read nigger? There's a difficult main mission which advances the story to the next era, and then bunches of side/optional missions which you can use to reduce the main mission's difficulty or presumably farm levels/money/items.

>>376702338
Eternal life as an all powerful lich lord is realizing that Jin won in the end, and that nothing those other three kingdoms did ultimately mattered.

>>376702612
Jin is the biggest asspull in history

>>376702612
Enlightened and power beyond measure is realizing China got fragmented in less than a single generation after it got united by Jin.

>>376702442
>It's not though.
It is.
>They literally explain there is always one key mission on the map
They stated that there is one main mission you have to clear to advance but, duh? Thats a no brainer.
>There are no branches or anything
Read it again, because it literally says "clearing other missions related to the main mission"
Also "Multiple battles may occur at the same time in different places, and the player will haveto make a choice on which battle they want to participate in. They are no longer split by stages.
I'm sorry but please stop trivializing changes.
We also know nothing about how the story will progress. Clearing a mission could leave you with the next mission being a character coming to you and say "lets ride to XY together", while there's dialogue along the way, and maybe an abush.

Point is, since the start, stop trivializing changes you know nothing about. Its silly.

>>376702529
>you can do optional shit in the open world before actually playing the main missions, which progress the same way as they used to

Thanks for backing me up, Jamal.

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>>376702612
>>376702521

>>376702315
DW started as VS fighting game.
it just didn't work out

>>376702860
What part of "related to the main mission" do you not understand? Oh wait, you trivialize it as "optional shit" because trivialization is the foundation of your whole """argument"""

>there will be no more English voices

as someone who played the serise as far back as 3, it sadenss me greatly.

>>376702521
>Which do you think appeal to kids more?
Wei, since children always want to play as the "baddies".
There was no fight over who is He-Man, but everyone wanted to be Skeletor.

>>376702761
>Thats a no brainer.
No. They could have several missions that take you to different branches and what if scenarios. THEN the progression would be different. As it is it's just old musou with boring open world shit inbetween the missions.
>but you can play unbordered free battles in places that don't matter
>or play some optional mission that removes an enemy officer or adds an ally to you in the main mission
>or you'll need to talk to an NPC before you can actually play
Yeah, exciting. Musou revitalized. It's your wishful thinking that plays up these trivial changes to be some magnificent reboot when everything we've seen from Omega Force and musou points to the contrary.

>>376701642
>Lu Bu was just overinflated stats instead of a rapemode AI that fully utilizes it's moveset to rip you a new one
Have you played the earlier ones like 3 or 4? Because Lu Bu would use all of his moves to beat you, especially if you were on even ground.

You blocked his attacks so as soon your about to start your attack, he would either block, counter with a quick jump hit, or even counter your counter with a random musou. That was the cool thing about Lu Bu, you could fight again after you've leveled up your character and he'd still be tough challenge. This is opposed to other generals who are on the same level yet just seem to be only able to block and strike.

>>376702998
What? source

>>376702945
It's related but still optional and still doesn't change the progression. But hey, pretending this is some amazing shit is your """"""""""""""argument"""""""""""""""

>>376703315
>They could have several missions that take you to different branches
What part of "players have to choose since battles are no longer split by stages" do you not understand?
And of course, the rest of your post are further trivialisations. We've already established that you trivialise based on the lack of information. You dont have to bother proving that further with every post.

>>376703452
>It's related but still optional and still doesn't change the progression.
You dont know that. Which is pretty much the point here. So if you can stop pulling shit out of your ass, we'd be thankful.

>>376684308
So it's just another DW but with a really big map and nothing to put in it but more enemies?

>>376703517
What part of all that is irrelevant optional shit do you not understand? Stages will serve as free battles whenever they're not the main mission. WOW

>>376699072
He was broken in WO1.

Also the only notable Guan babby since he tried and failed to live up to his dad at Fan then died

>>376703721
>I'm pulling shit out of my ass - The post.
WOW indeed.

>>376703564
I do know that because I'm not illiterate and they explain it in the famitsu interview. Either learn to read at least on the level of nine-year-old or stop wasting everyone's time, we'd be thankful.

>>376703721
So the answer is "anything". You dont understand anything about that sentence. I see. Well that was a waste of time...

>>376703784
>I can't read - The post.
All right then.

>>376703796
Oh you mean the Famitsu issue in which they state that there are multiple missions related to the main mission? Or the one where they same that multiple battles take place at the same time?
Because from everything you say, it sounds like you read an issue that doesnt exist?
>we
As if other people are as stupid as you

>>376703839
>n-no you don't understand all the shit I'm randomly making up with my wishful thinking
What a shame.

>>376703721
>Stages will serve as free battles whenever they're not the main mission
Wut? What stages? There are no stages anymore. Nigger you just went full retard

>>376703963
>all the shit I'm randomly making up
>literally quoting the Famitsu
>shit I'm randomly making up
Go fuck yourself. If you wanna shitpost, choose a different thread.

>>376703960
Yeah, where they state there is always one key mission that does any kind of progress and the rest i.e. the battles that take place at the same time are all optional shit that don't affect your progress. There are other people as stupid as me, and less stupid too, unfortunately there are also ones way more retarded than I could ever hope to be - the people like you.

>>376684308
As long as they don't nerf my boy Zhang Liao and my girl Lian Shi, I'm all for open world DW9

>>376684308
>another rehash square forever no ai easy mode pile of trash
>this gets shilled and localized but a kick-ass CUHRAYZEEEEEEE game like Basara doesn't get jack shit
fuck you, you're all fucking faggots

>>376704245
>where they state there is always one key mission that does any kind of progress and the rest i.e. the battles that take place at the same time are all optional shit
They never say that you mongoloid. They state that there is one main mission to advance the era. But they never state how that objective is structured in individual missions exactly. Its also obvious that its the last objective, because it actually advances the era. Like a military campaign goal. But it has nothing to do with individual main mission structure.
Quote: (Defeat Zhang Jiao to advance to Dong Zhuo era)
Like seriously, how fucking stupid do you actually have to be?

>>376704018
Are you actually retarded? They literally explain all the optional battles take place around the landmarks like Fan Castle and Nanban and happen when those places aren't the main mission. The fact you approach from an open world doesn't stop them from being stages.

>>376704245
>There are other people as stupid as me
I doubt it. But thanks for the heads up.

>>376704532
>They literally explain all the optional battles take place around the landmarks like Fan Castle and Nanban and happen when those places aren't the main mission.
Where do they explain that?
>The fact you approach from an open world doesn't stop them from being stages.
Also this doesn't even make sense.

>>376704505
>all these asspulls
>they outright say to make progress you have to beat 1 (one) mission and one such key mission is always available
>b-b-but there will totally be a dozen other main missions that they just forget to mention, because I say so! It will be like a campaign :)
Wew lad, you going for some kind of world record?

>>376704674
>all these asspulls
>literally quoting the Famitsu
>asspulls
Fuck off.

>>376704793
>t-they just said it in invisible text :)
Comedy gold.

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Business as usual on /v/ today I see. Keep it up guys, one of you is bound to get the last word eventually.

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>shitposting in a dw thread

>>376704869
He can have it. I'm done with that shitposting faggot.

>>376704896
dw on /v/ is shitposting

>>376703407
They haven't confirmed a dub, but DW8E and SW4 weren't dubbed so it's not too far fetched.

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>mfw I love everything thats known already and I have never looked forward to a DW game like I'm doing now

Pic related, Xiaohu Dun's reincarnation

>>376705054
I'd agree, if it weren't for the state combo system. That stuff has me worried.
I hope they release some gameplay videos by the time E3 comes around.

>>376702315
Some of the games did feature a vs mode, but they were pretty barebones (some of the DW4E ones were alright).
SW2 did have a Monopoly/Mario party style multiplayer game though which was pretty fun.

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>>376687108
>Apart from committing treason against the Han government under Cao Cao's control, Ma Chao was also notorious for committing a number of acts of cruelty: he betrayed his father when he persuaded Han Sui to join him in his rebellion; he abandoned his wife and son when he defected from Zhang Lu to Liu Bei; he killed Jiang Xu's mother in cold blood after she scolded him; he murdered Zhao Ang and Wang Yi's son after they rebelled against him and forced him out of Liang Province.

Around Shu, never relax.

>>376705538
How come koei made someone like this spouting justice?

Just remember

>Zhou Yu never ranted about Zhuge Liang on his death bed. He wrote a calm letter to Sun Quan expressing his regret at not being able to serve Wu anymore.
>There was no assassination attempt on Liu Bei in guise of a banquet. There was however a debate on the lands between Guan Yu and Lu Su. Which Lu Su won.
>Shamoke didn't kill Gan Ning. His men however did kill Ma Liang as a peace gesture to Wu after Shamoke was killed.
>Zhu Ran survived Yi King and went on to be an accomplished general.
>After Wu drove off Shu, when Wei then went ahead with their invasion of Wu. Liu Bei sent a letter to Lu Xun asking if Shu attacked Wu again what would his chances be.

>>376703407
There hasn't been a dubbed Musou for years now, only big projects like Hiryule Warriors funded by Nintendo and Dragon Quest Heroes funded by Squeenix were the exception, everything else, more than 8 Musous were all without a dub track; Koei said it was the best way to keep more Musous being localized, cuting costs and purging a dub was one measure.

>>376706109
Because he's Shu, and therefore a great person.

Explain Wei Yan

>>376706698
He betrayed the glorious Prime Minister Kongming.

>>376705538
>Apart from committing treason against the Han government under Cao Cao's control
>cucking the ursurper
>treason

>>376706109
People just focus on the shining gold man, but much of the cast was way more shaddy in historical records and the novel, DW overall is a lighter take on the era where the fanbase can like pretty much anyone.

>>376706913
Even Jiang Wei? Dong Zhuo?

>>376707282
I like Dong Zhuo in Diao chan doujin.

Jie Ting faithfully reenacted would be neat.

>>376707282
>play DW3 and DW3 Xtreme Legends
>Dong Zhuo is a selfish, evil belligerent tyrant whose only love is of himself and has the blackest heart in China

>DW4 gives him a sword that looks more like a rusty piece of jagged metal
>starts referring to everyone as a worthless insect that he will stomp on to get his way

>DW5
>MUH PARADISE I JUST WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE EMPEROR LU BU DON'T YOU LOVE ME DIAO CHAN WE'RE PRETTY OK ALL I WANT TO DO IS MAKE PARADISE

>>376706840
Cao Cao did nothing wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Cao%27s_invasion_of_Xu_Province

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>>376684308
>check source code of site

DYNASTY WARIOS CONFIRMED

>>376710331
>Dynasty Warios
WAH!

>>376684308
>Open world
If its anything like Toukiden 2 they can keep it.

>>376694498
Combat changes make it seem like they are going to pull another DW6 with that renbu bullshit or whatever.

Feels like DW9 is going to suck balls and DW10 will actually be decent. Koei isn't great at gigantic changes.

ambitious bump

Hope they dont drop characters from previous games lu linqui and that poor lu bu general were nice additions in my opinion

>>376714225
Lingqi was trash but Chen Gong was pretty cool. They're not dropping anyone.

>>376699558

First time I wasn't even told not to pursue before it was too late.

>started with DW8XL
>Hulao gate as Shu
>Three bros vs. Lu Bu cutscene gave me mixed messages
>charge him and get rekt for 90% of my life
>then the dialogue starts that tells me to just run past him
>try and fail to outrun his halberd

Next attempt I killed Diaochan and made him go apeshit, but then he suddenly got beat and fled.

>>376708540
If you have to state that he did nothing wrong, than he probably did quite a lot wrong.

>>376702998

>no more dub Cao Cao, Cao Pi, Lu Bu or Sima Yi

The rest of them are either forgettable, average or annoying (especially Zhang Fei), but those four make the whole thing worth it to me.

>>376714923
Zhang Fei peaked at DW4 and 5 and Kessen 2

RIP Bob Papenbrook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccEmOeyhU9k