>He doesn't think this is the best Pokemon game Fucking idiot

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ackchyually

>>376664187
>>376664657
Both barely better than their previous iterations. Platinum did better for D/P, however, by speeding things up.

Nothing beats Gen5 though.

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>they don't think HG/SS is the best

Seriously
>Platinum Battle Frontier
>Pokewalker was a fun accessory
>Fixed a lot of the balance issues in GSC/level curve
>Added more shit in Kanto
>lots of nods to the originals, GB sounds, etc.
>Pokeathlon is kinda fun
>Voltorb Flip gets addicting

>>376664861
Emerald barely better than R/S? You don't know what you're talking about

>>376664974
A polished turd is still a turd.

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Generation 5 > Everything else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ajBL15Knk

of course I dont

gen 2 is perfect

>>376664187
>>376665032
Emerald and White 2 are my favorite games.

>>376664932
HG/SS were solid games that made up for their faults with fanservice to the playerbase. Wouldn't go so far as to say it's the best, but it's the best you are going to get going forward with the series.

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>>376664861
utter shit

but the music was alright

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>>376665048
>gen 2 is perfect

>what is bare Kanto
>what is horrible level curve
>what is Snorlax: The Meta

>>376664187
Sorry, nope. Platinum was fucking perfect. You're stuck in second place.

>>376665189

>snorlax, who doesnt show up until the end of the game
>kanto, who's even existence on a GB cart was a technological marvel

>>376664187
too much water

All Pokemon games are piss easy and boring.

Why are the 3ds games so weak? Sun/Moon is missing content, X/Y was just a boring leap into 3d, Omega/Alpha are just remakes with missing content

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>>376664932
>Fixed a lot of the balance issues in GSC/level curve
>Voltorb Flip gets addicting

>>376665015
Fuck you and your shit taste. Gen 3 was and still is the best.

>>376665289
I'd rather have one region full of content than two half-assed regions. Iwata is a god tier programmer, but it still doesn't make up for that fault.

As for Snorlax, you could get one early in the game with Time Capsule. That's more of a competitive complaint than a game complaint.

But that's not White.

>>376664187
HGSS is the apex of the series.

>>376664187
But anon, I do think that's the best Pokemon game

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>Best grunt theme
>Stuck on worse pokemon game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB87TndHlFg

>>376665475
He's wrong about the first part but Voltorb Flip is legit pretty fun once you know what you're doing. There's still luck involved but hey that's gambling for you.

>>376664861
>Nothing beats Gen5 though
my nigga

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>>376664187
That's not Lugi.

>can't play Black and White 2 on my flashcart
What a load of bullshit.

>>376665475
>>376665671
How the fuck am I wrong?

Are you forgetting in the original GSC, all of the Kanto gyms had Pokemon in the low 40s for levels while HGSS had Pokemon leveled at the 50s.

Granted they still never bothered to fix the wild Pokemon in Kanto.

>>376665671
The level curve isn't even an issue. GSC's non-linearity is partly the reason for the level curve.

Having the standard level curve seen in every other game is pretty boring.

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>>376665371
In Gen VI's defense, XY is the most convenient and multiplayer-friendly Pokemon game (ORAS too, but that's because it's in the same gen, and it doesn't have trainer customization so telling people apart is harder), and ORAS has a few new additions that fill the gap for Emerald content missing, like Dexnav and non-Hoenn Pokemon integrated throughout the region, Soaring, a much better base system and some XY carryovers (just like DPP carryovers for HGSS).
I'd say ORAS is about equal to Emerald, but is better or worse depending on what you're looking for (Emerald is far better for single player battling, with the Battle Tents and Frontier), and XY was a big step in the right connection for multiplayer, although a lot of its single player was lacking. I don't know what they were thinking with Sun and Moon's Festival Plaza, it was such a huge step back compared to the PSS and BW's Join Avenue.

>>376664187
Competitively speaking, Rayquaza is the best mon in the game

>>376665651
the first 15 seconds is the most grating shit ever but then its good

>>376665164
B2/W2 are significantly better
helps that challenge mode is something that should have been included in every single game

>>376665895
>no high leveled wild pokemon at all after morty
>literally nowhere to train after beating Clair and the route to the E4(you're likely 10-15 levels under Lance, unless you have Dewgong or something his Dragonites are going to fuck you up)
>that 20+ level jump to Red

The mystery dungeon series exists so it isn't even top three at least.

>>376666104
>>that 20+ level jump to Red
In all fairness, that's kind of the point for Red to be absurdly overpowered.

>>376666104

gen1 had really bad leveling before the E4 too. I had like 1 lvl 45 mon, the rest were low 30's and I had to grind for days in the cave

>>376665371
I fucking know dude. The 3ds titles lack the fun factor the previous games have. It seems like the tone of the games was made directly worse.

The stories just lack depth period, the settings aren't interesting and are just a collection of grassy places and caves with no real depth.

Characters are boring as fuck, nobody is intriguing, there's no reason to care about the antagonists. The legendary pokemon in XY were literally tacked on with no build or context, but they weren't a powerful story driver or just a random juggernaut you wandered into dark souls style like in Gen 1-5.

Dificulty went down the drain too. Pokemon selection is poor. ORAS is a direct downgrade from Emerald visually and in gameplay

They just feel uninspired.

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>>376664187
but, anon, i do think that

Rate my hypothetical team guys

Blaziken
Gardevoir
Aggron
Salamence
Milotic
Roselia

:>

Games I always go back to:
>FireGreen
>Emerald
>Platinum
>Aryan2

>>376666096
I was so disappointed they never brought that back

>>376666190
It's too bad his team is always shit.

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>>376665932
Yeah, if there's one thing Gen 6 does better than anything else in the series, it has to be the online interface, which is undeniably the best due to how streamlined and simple it is to use.

Seriously, Sun and Moon's online user interface is an absolute disaster.

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Blue/Red are my favorite

The "best" is probably a toss up between Emerald, HGSS and Plat because of the amount of content they offer

>>376664187
B/W is best gen

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>>376666565
It's kinda hilarious that when it comes to ingame teams, pic related has by far the most dangerous one.
The theme also doesn't exactly do that battle justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrKeGHwOBvs

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>>376664187
Fug is probably one of the cooler legendaries, I'll give it that.

>>376666484
>>376666635
If there's one things consistent with Game Freak, it's them bringing in cool features for one generation only to abandon them in the next generation.

>"Boy, fans loved Pokemon following you in HG/SS, let's just get rid of that"
>"The Poketch was a good interface with some useful things like the step counter... let's get rid of that too"
>"A really nice online interface? Let's just hide it behind a shitty Join Avenue interface."

>>376664932
why did they program grudge matches with the gym leaders to be a hoop of fire to jump through?

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>ORAS didn't include emerald's exclusive stuff
I am still mad.

>>376666929
apparently it's intentional to give every game its "unique feel"

seriously fuck GF

Are Emerald's frontier brains hard to defeat or that was kid me being dumb?
I think I still have my friend's bases if my cartridge still has batteries

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Emerald, Platinum, HGSS and Black/White 2 are the best pokemon games, prove me wrong
Pro tip: You can't.

>>376665152
/thread

>>376666837
The problem.is they always insist on giving him the three Kanto starters and Pikachu, so his team will never be more than horrible. Plus, they replaced Espeon with Lapras so he has three things weak to elect. And their movesets all suck.

Red is a joke by this point. I pretty much always use Leaf in FireRed now.

>>376666190
It's also only fair since he's just one dude instead of a five-trainer gauntlet like the Pokemon League, which you already did a few hours ago

>>376667142
they were markedly more difficult than all other fights in the game

>>376666269
I still haven't finished Sun/Moon yet. I think I'm still on the 3rd or 4th gym.

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>>376665371
Sun/Moon also drags so fucking hard when you are just going through the game

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much talking and handholding

>>376667272
if they could just contain the kanto starters thing to a mega charizard and maybe a light ball pikachu his team could potentially be decent

but yeh I get what you mean, Blue's teams tend to be vastly better given his signature 'mons include things like alakazam and gyarados

>>376667280
I think I almost managed to beat Lucy and the dojo brain but I lost

>>376664187

>only ever borrowed emerald from friends little brother
>gave it back to him at one point bcuz gud guy
>generally held on to most pokemon games because collectfag
>want a copy of emerald
>pokemon games are now a little overpriced because of pokemon go getting millenials on a nostalgia fix
>not only that but emerald and GBA games in general are some of the most heavily pirated games so I can't even tell if a cart is real any more because the real emerald had this specific holografic sticker on its cover and that normally doesnt show up in pictures
>all the emerald extra content was cut from ORAS

Fuck man, Gen 3 was my favorite, why did ORAS have to be so mediocre

>>376664657
This.

BW2 = Pt = HGSS > Emerald > BW > FRLG > RS > DP > XY > GSC > ORAS > RBY

No opinion on SuMo since I dropped it.

Can someone tell me when Platinum gets good? I've gotten to the fourth? gym and it just hasn't hooked me yet. I might be biased against it because I hated Pearl when I played it, but the Pokemon selection in this game kind of sucks compared to every other gen.

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Didn't read thread. Real best Pokemon is right here.
>strongest explosion in the game
> look at that face
> access to belly drum, swords dance, hammer arm

>>376667905
its mostly a combination of Pt having an excellent post-game and that it has a few high difficulty speedbumps that actually require you to pay attention

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>>376666701
B E S T
G I R L

>>376667905
If you've honestly gotten that far in the game and you still don't like it I don't know what to tell you. What's your team?

>gen 3
I'm over 18 sorry OP.

>>376667303
Neither have I. I hit the third island, the one with the research station and electric guy. Zone that has Beldum in it. I basically just gave up at that point. The battles were uninspired, the environements are trash, and the characters are uninspired and totally unlikable. While the pokemon veriety is good, it doesnt carry the game.

Every zone in G6 and 7 feels the same.The level design feels very uninspired and the visuals lend to it.

I dumped hundreds of hours each into FR, Emerald, SS, Diamond, SS, and White 1 and 2, but g6 onward just doesnt do anything for me.

>>376668026
>strongest explosion in the game
you haven't been keeping up with the times I see, he's been dethroned by mega-glalie and alola-golem

>>376668061
I've got a Buneary (which I'll probably replace if its evolved form sucks), Ponyta, Gabite, Grovyle, Azumarrill, and Staravia. I'll probably end up switching out about half the team there since I don't care about Ponyta and I'm not too crazy about Gabite despite him being pretty strong.

>>376666909
Motherfuckin manga

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As a whole, it's just the best game. It was so fresh and new and yet had everything people came to expect from the franchise. The region lock really needs to come back since it really told players to not try to rely on the same mons as before but to open yourself up and make some new bros.

>>376664187
I hated that gen
I was so disappointed when I beat the elite four and found out that you couldn't visit Johto

>>376668528
You're not fooling anyone gamefreak.

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Name a better soundtrack I fucking dare you. Platinum is pure perfection in poke-form
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqBaDX33Eew&t=94s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PbnT0x0e5I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8cLW0Lckhc&t=13s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqsgB2TZ9Ks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbsX5oXHc8

>>376668119
Hey hey hey, I'm exactly 18 and hate gen 3

>>376664187
Gen III in general is in that awkward spot where they introduced a ton of min maxing that made the games less enjoyable, but had yet to introduce the physical/special split that the games desperately needed. Abilities were nice, but they don't save Hoenn itself from being a bland region with bland Pokemon. >>376664657 is a better answer.

>>376668528
I actually agree with this, especially the regionlock part. Sure, some new Pokemon just filled the same niche as older ones like not-Geodude and not-Zubat, but there was enough originality that it wasn't that big of an issue to me. It should have implemented the new battle systems into the game more often like how the BlazeBlack/VoltWhite romhacks did, but maybe B/W 2 addressed these issues. I wouldn't know since I haven't bothered either emulating or buying them yet.

>>376664932
And to counter those points:

>Boring region
>The worst starters(Feraligatr is the only viable one)
>Most of the Pokemon you meet are from Gen I
>Gen II was a Gen I expansion more than an actual Gen II, this was their chance to make it somewhat salvageable
>Kanto was watered down and barren, and it shows that Johto had to get neutered for it to matter at all
>Trainer rematches are a bitch and a half, and some are outright useless
>Gym Leader rematches require a specific set of conditions that are tedious as hell, but needed if you want to level up your team sufficiently
>Level scaling is horrendus. Even with a lucky egg, I was still struggling to get some of my guys to LV. 50
>Wild Pokemon in Kanto are LV. 5-10 but the trainers are 40+
>Gen II's batch of Pokemon are comprised of shitty throwaways that had to wait until Gen IV to become useful, and even then there's a good chunk of them that are still ass. Only a few were viable to use
>The remakes didn't fix any of the problems at all. None at all. The Apricorn balls are useless still, there's no reason to use Chikorita or Cyndaquil, the latter only being a Fire-type and even then you can use a Flying-type or Fighting-type to do its work, and it only showed you couldn't do a multi-region game
>The special stat was fixed, but you still had Pokemon who had tremendous attack but still had special type STAB. Sneasel was damn near useless and Hitmonchan still couldn't utilize the elemental punches

Gen II was so weak, Gen IV had to save it.

>>376668482
Gabite is a pseudo which means they are relatively weak up until they hit their final stage which wont happen until lv 48 (which is actually fairly early by pseudo standards)
it's final stage, Garchomp, is a complete and utter monster though

as for your other 'mons azumarril heavily depends on its ability, thick fat azumarril is virtually useless, huge power azumarril is highly threatening
staravia is also suprisingly powerful when it evolves into its final stage which should be happening fairly soon. Bit of advise: do not wait to evolve him, he learns one of his best moves upon evolution

as for the ponyta, it really doesn't have a lot of alternatives, there's magmar which can go magmortar in this gen, but aside from that there's very little fire types in sinnoh

there may also be a slugma, but do yourself a favor and don't use slugma

>>376668904
I was a bit dissapointed in not-geodude

would have been interesting had they gone with a special rock 'mon. Instead its just geodude, slightly better

>>376668904
I personally loved not geodude and not machamp. I used both and both were bro tier as fuck.

But I do

>>376668528
this

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>>376664657
Not even the best in its generation

>>376668763

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GTlTtnbnhY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzzg2gWKeTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_2u6EDx6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuwaTkyRluI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0Fe3FKbco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMK1evpnYGo

B/W was either super chill, surprisingly emotional, or even fucking tense.

>>376668957
>Gen II was so weak, Gen III had to save it

FTFY

>>376664187
literally the worse gen next to X/Y and S/M

Sorry but I can't stand playing anything Gen III anymore, the engine feels like crap outside of being 60fps and it's in the awkward teen stage of the series' gameplay mechanics. It's a shame ORAS didn't include almost any of Emerald's extras and cut down some areas from vanilla RS, otherwise all the pros of it plus all the pros of Emerald would've actually made the best Pokemon game.

>>376669528

Please see: >>376668957

Platinum is the pinnacle of Gen IV.

>>376669720
No, I said that correctly. Gen III is based, but it only made Gen II Pokemon widely available. Gen IV actually fixed them.

>>376669812
All those nitpicks about Gold and Silver don't change the fact that HGSS is better game than DPPt

>>376664187
>tfw want to start a new pokémon game but don't have a second cart to trade my favorite mons to and don't want to go through the slow as hell gen transfer process

>>376669609
BW had the best music
Shame they got rid of the critical health song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJOuj59l-O4

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>>376664187
Nah, ORAS is the best. Emerald is still dope, though.

>>376669957
>not hacking your console so you can back up your saves at will
>not installing Pokemon Homebrew Bank so that your bros can all hang out together between adventures

>>376669938

Did you actually play Platinum? Because it and D/P are two different beasts.

>>376669609
This. I consider Gen V soundtrack to be very good along with gen IV.

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i tried playing black/white and black2/white2 but they just suck ass.

>>376670028
That shit was terrible, killed the atmosphere of any battle with unique music. It's not a bad idea, but it was executed poorly and overall Gen VI and VII just having a brief warning beep is the best way they've handled low health warnings.

>>376664932
HG/SS is the only Pokemon game I couldn't finish because the exp distribution was fucked and I got bored of grinding Pokemon. I also thought gen 2 pokemon were kind of lame but that's just me.

>>376664187
sorry but white 2 is the best. I feel like Z would have been great too, but they just scrapped it halfway to start on that sun and moon trash

>>376670103
yeh lemme just hack my GBA SP

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>>376664187

>>376664932
Personally the only reason to like GSC is the atmosphere of Johto, and HGSS beefs it.

>>376666269
>stories
>pokemon selection
XY had so many pokemon you could find in the wild, and it had more of a story than anything before gen 5. lysnadre was interesting

>>376670351

Quentin, I thought you were in jail.

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>>376670126

>>376670126
Try Blaze Black 2 or Volt White 2, the romhacks up the difficulty a decent bit and it's possible to catch every pokemon up until Gen 5

>>376670112
Platinum fixed a lot of the issues with DP but was still a slow and boring slogfest.
I give it credit for trying though

>>376670351
Change that dude into a extremely fit, handsome young guy and it'd be pretty accurate

>>376670301
Buy a 3DS you luddite

>>376666635
they also did serena (not the anime one) right. I want to FUCK HER

>>376664187
I think it's a toss up between Platinum and BW2.

god i miss being 12

>>376670643
never again will you hide your gba under your pillow when your mom tucks you in so you can keep playing late into the night

>>376670456
Quentin made a video game http://greatgatsbygame.com/

>>376670509
Delusional

>>376670476
>Platinum fixed a lot of the issues with DP but was still a slow and boring slogfest.
Yeah, you didn't play it, or you played B/W before it. Platinum was an entirely different game from D/P, only trumped by B/W2.

>>376670719
delet this

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOGOj903gto

>>376670217
My only problem with it is that the transition wasn't as smooth as it should have been.
There's no sense of urgency with the short warning beeps. I mean the narrative is supposed to be that your companion is getting hurt badly, it shouldn't have as little urgency as a text message.
You should earn that epic unique music back by winning.

I can't help but wonder how many "hoennbabies" defending ORAS weren't actually around when Emerald was first released.

>>376670719
oh wow i forgot about this

>>376670780
You literally walk slower than the fucking GBA games in platinum

>>376670726
Just because you're a fat balding permavirgin neckbeard doesn't mean everyone else is.

>>376670780
Not him, but I played Platinum when it came out and it barely changed a thing in terms of game speed. It fleshed out Sinnoh very nicely and in terms of content was everything a third version should be (funny how they stopped making 'em...) but I'm still iffy about replaying any of the gen 4 games because it's just a massive slog.

>>376671007
No shit, that was 60fps. The battles were still faster and gradually became faster, peaking in Gen V.

>>376670217

If anything it was a nice dramatic effect either to tell you to turn things around or alternatively to chase the victory before you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhyYt4zAXGs

>>376671202
And yet HGSS isn't nearly as much of a slow piece of shit as Platinum despite being the same engine on the same hardware. I get that you have a boner for Platinum but it is definitely flawed

>>376670414
Anime Nazi Steve Jobs was interesting but they didn't elaborate enough on his past for most to care.

XY in general are truly deserving of their titles. There's so much fucking potential with a lot of ideas in it but a lot of them aren't expanded on as much as they should be. That we never got Z to build on it is the greatest disappointment in the series for me.

>>376665371
XY was trying a bit too hard to appeal to casuals who haven't touched the series in years and had growing pains with GF getting used to the 3D jump, and I personally believe ORAS and SM are held back by the new director. If we get another Gen VII game this year I only hope someone other than Ohmori is at the helm.

>>376671324
You literally said what I just, only expressing your boner for HGSS instead.

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>>376671324

>HGSS isn't nearly as much of a slow piece of shit

Holy hell, you ARE talking out of your ass.

>>376671324
Pretty sure they're equally as "slow".

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>>376664861
Damn right. Gen V is my shit. I love the mix of pixel art and 3D, it looks so good. Reuniclus is my boy.

>>376668026
Lickilicky is a cutie. Easily my favorite of Gen IV's cross-gen evolutions.

Kind of unrelated but what do you guys think of shiny hunting? Autistic as fuck or no?

>>376671474
yeah I was excited for Z because XY were at that tipping point about to be great. instead we got those stupid islands that only felt 1 route big each.

>>376671765
not autistic. IV breeding without hacking in a max ivs ditto is autisitc

>>376671765
I enjoy it. Only in XY though where they're more common and the breeding mechanics are easier.

>>376664187
The drayano hacks for hgss and bw2 are the best mainline games, any of the mystery dungeon games easily are better though with sky being the best.

>>376671765
It is, but it doesn't really matter. Do it if it makes you happy.

>>376671765
It's all autistic as fuck to me. I'm *just* barely autistic enough to catch a pokemon until I get one with a good nature and the ability I want, anything more than that is further down the spectrum than me.

>>376671765
I was this close to getting a Snorunt in Platinum, and had my chain broken by a Snover. I've never tried it since.

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>>376671765

For certain ones, it's entirely justified.

>>376671765
Instacheck my nigga.

>>376671765
Just hack it. Literally just a palette swap

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Is Mega Fug still unbeatable?

>>376672313
given that there's been no new megas, he's still the dumbest thing in pokemon since gen 1 mewtwo

>>376671976
Fire Red Omega was really good too.

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>>376672313
Leave Mega-Fug to me.

>>376672413

Imagine if we had Zygarde Complete with Aura break. Megafug could no longer run pure physical, not without outrage.

>>376672762
you know that's not a particularly good answer to megafug right?
golduck can't switch in on ANY of its attacks or get wiped out by extremespeed and literally nothing forces megafug to remain in play against golduck and switch so something like say, Xerneas for a free geomancy

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Were Mega Evolutions the blunder of the century?

>>376673043
The only problem with Megas are there aren't more of them and that they haven't tried to rebalance some of them

>>376673043
Gen 7 exists, so no

>>376672908
best option in the near future for a megafug counter is the hypothetical mega-dialga during the gen IV remakes
minmax its stats and slap an auto-trick room ability on him and there's now 2 dragons in AG

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>>376671765
I don't really care about shinies, but they have cropped up by chance over the years. The only times I tried it deliberately were with the PokeRadar in gen 4 to see if the chances actually increase noticeably (actually pretty tough to keep that chain up, and still no dice after hours spent, so not really worth it in any sense) and with chain fishing in XY (pretty much guaranteed shinies within the hour, caught a couple shiny Luvdisc and Skrelp just for kicks and for trading for neat shit on the GTS).

>>376673347
I wonder how long it would take for an auto trick room ability to be banned from competitive, since it seems like it would blow up most of the meta game assuming it could take more than 1 hit.

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>>376664187
Oh fug, wrong image. Sorry guys.

>>376673347
What would Palkia have to make it as good as auto-trick room? Some "room" that fucks with defenses?

>>376673696
honestly as long as it wasn't on something to powerful with it I could see it remain
after all the tapus remain despite their combo of great stats and auto-terrain

>>376673856
it would have auto-gravity because nobody cares about palkia

>>376673856

Maybe auto reflect and/or light screen.

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>>376666837
Honestly, getting your ass whooped to a happy-go-lucky theme is strangely fitting

>>376673939
I blame it on the color scheme, Palkia has a cooler design and concept but for some reason
space = pink

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>>376670042
>ORAS is the best.
If you're a drooling retard, sure.

>>376673739
>large variety of pokemon to choose from without feeling oversaturated like in gen 6
>plot isn't shoved in your face ever 10 seconds
>by far the most content of any game
>Colress is the only villain that doesn't feel like a generic bad guy
>PWT is the best implementation of a post game battle mode to date

What went so right? The only thing I find a negative is that you're still stuck with the shitty gen V starters.

>>376673043
They're an extension of power creep, which is the real blunder.

>>376664187
its 2nd after gen 5 for me

>>376668763
I really miss that artstyle. The new region map artstyle is garbage

>>376674139
it is a bit off putting
that theme, that champion, and then she opens up with a hydreigon

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>>376674290
>Colress is the only villain that doesn't feel like a generic bad guy
and in the very same generation where you have a whole quest for chasing down Team Plasma members with Interpol, Colress gets off scot free despite willingly aiding Ghetsis' ambitions
What gives

>>376674345
its a bit sad power creep has gotten to the point not even gengar and starmie manage to remain top tier
all that remains of gen 1 at the top are chansey, dugtrio and zapdos

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>pokemon has so much potential for cool shit but gamefreak is lazy and Nintendo milks it as a cash cow for crap new gens and genwunner catering

There are so many rom hacks and stuff like pokemon revolution kicking that pokemon could get some really cool new games but everything just repeated from gen 5 on

>>376666837
Personally, it's my favorite Champion theme. Might be a bit too happy-go-lucky, but it's got a lot of energy to it.

Best Gen V battle theme though is PWT Finals.

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>tfw you never beat the battlefrontier in this game as kid

Anyone beat the battlefrontier in this game as a kid?

>>376674974
I got the Silver medals in Emerald, but wasn't good enough to get the Gold. Never bothered in Platinum or HGSS because the gimmicks in that Frontier were boring.

>>376675203
I didn't even go for gold

>>376668763
Probably the best ost in the series

I hated BW2's expanded dex, honestly. It takes away from the feel that Unova, a region based off an American location, is so far away from the Japanese regions, and that it's all so foreign. Having all sorts of random mons crop up withing a 2 year timespan is also pretty silly considering they were never there to begin with, and certain Japanese-region mons like Swellow are cut for some reason when the expanded dex would justify them being in Unova even more. Black and White's all new dex was handled very well, even if some Pokemon feel like "clones" of previous gen counterparts.

Kalos also has an oversaturated Pokedex, but you at least get the justification that the place is a total tourist trap, so a whole bunch of touristy/cutesy trainers and mons show up throughout the game, like Azurill, and Snubbull (a Pokemon that's popular among older Johto woman) being found at the hit tourist site.

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Don't let the thread archive guys. Who was your favorite rival?

Mine is obviously this guy right here, his teams were pretty decent and actually were kind of challenging, also he's a actual rival and not some faggot who holds your hand like the others do in later games

can someone post that charizard pic from the sequel thread thanks

>>376676691
The whole theme of Unova was supposed to be about the old romantic idea of America being a melting pot of different cultures with people from all over going there to settle for a fresh start, hence the whole conflict with N in BW1 being about clashing ideals and the starters each being themed in a different culture, so if anything the lack of Pokemon from other regions was extremely out of place.

>>376676927
yeah gary was most challenging to me, but I like silver and hugh best character-wise because I'm a sucker for edgy characters

>>376677040
i think the lack of pokemon was because every other region was in japan and unova was so far away that it would make sense for the native creatures to be completely different

>>376671202
>takes a minute to deplete the HP bar
>faster than the gen 3

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>>376664657
Nuzlocking this now, what a fucking masterpiece. So much content in this region, plenty of optional areas and the difficulty curve and dex variety is on point. 4th gen was also the last gen where all three starters were great.

But Black 2 is the best game in the series.

>>376667303
>sun moon
>gyms

Did you buy the right game, anon?

>>376676927
I think Blue is the best, he's got an okay team in FRLG and he has layers that aren't shoved in your face. I like Wally's almost reverse rival setup but he doesn't show up enough especially in RSE, and I like Hugh's dumb revenge crusade and the way his friendship with the MC is conveyed but his team sucks shit.

>>376677239
The HP bar is slow as fuck to deplete in Gen III too. Now the EXP bar, that's abnormally slow in DP at least.

>>376676927
Barry.

>runs in to you just often enough to give you battles at irritating locations without turning into the BW1 rivals
>team shifts around more than just his starter, with a rotating F/G/W core
>team grows in difficulty gradually, even after postgame (topping off with him at one of the top 5 strongest trainers in the series to date)
>actual character development
>solid theme

I'm partial to Blue, Silver and N as well but Barry is rock solid.

>>376676927
wally it was nice seeing him grow found the rest of them awful

>Want to replay Emerald
>Download Theta Emerald EX for the phys/spec split and other stuff
>Can't install it
Well then

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>>376677405
>Nuzlocking Platinum
>Cyrus kills my bro Torterra, fuck you Cyrus
>still have Fuego Ironworks to catch something
>catch Tentacool
>Tentacruel walls the shit out of Cynthia
>mfw the God of Sinnoh

>>376678012
I went to put in my emerald cart it glitched out and starting screeching loudly. Not sure if it's my cart or my old ds

>>376678056
Tentacruel is a goddamn monster.

>>376677918
oh yeah barry's snorlax at the pokemon league was tough because I didn't have any fighting moves

>>376677405
>4th gen was also the last gen where all three starters were great.
can't argue with that, but serperior is all I need for a gen 5 starter

>>376677405
>Torterra
>Great

Pick one and only one

>>376678627
True, Contrary Serperior is probably one of my favorite Pokemon in general. Even if he's kind of meh ingame for gen V I still like using him.

>>376677405
I dunno, I thought the Kalos starters were pretty gold, except the middle stages. I don't like any of their middle stages. But I like the first and final stages all on their own and the three starters work together excellently as a trio.

>>376678840
you're right, great was an understatement

>>376678993
Not a big fan of Samurott being mono-water, there's nothing really unique about it sadly. Emboar was kinda meh, especially after Infernape.

>>376678840
I pick
>Torterra
>Great

>>376679031
>>376679267
I don't think Torterra's bad, just lame as fuck compared to Infernape and Empoleon. That's just me though

>>376679461
it's kind of impossible to make a world turtle lame
>>376678993
he said kalos, not unova. as for kalos I just don't like that dumb fox

>>376679461
To be fair Empoleon is amazing with that typing and style, and Infernape was essentially minmax Blaziken at the time with a way better design.

Torterra can fire off Stab EQ and Woodhammer and works not terribly Scarfed so I'm a fan.

>>376679461
EQ at level 30 something is no joke, he's just way too fucking slow and has too many weaknesses for that to matter, being able to catch gibles in the cave where you find the EQ TM literally 20 minutes after you start the game also makes every starter but the monkey irrelevant.

>>376679673
Blaziken looks wayy better than Infernape what are you on about?

>>376680060
Keep your chicken with bell bottoms

>>376670456
didnt he try to shoot up his school or something?

>>376679757
Gible isn't available until after the second Gym in Platinum.

The Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games are really good imho, I'd even say Explorers of the Sky is the best in the series. If I were to pick a main series game, I'd say Platinum for best region and BW2 for pokemon diversity and better content in general.

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>used to love gen III and Hoenn region as a whole
>even though I know Emerald was superior, still liked Ruby more
>fast forward until post-OR/AS
>first pokemon game where I didn't even beat the E4 for the second time
>sucked all the joy out of Hoenn.
>recently tried to replay Emerald but it just felt like such a slog.

>>376664657
3pbp

I like all Pokemon games but the only one I like on actual merit is crystal.

Which gen has the best romhacks? I haven't played too many, but I'd say my favorites have to have been Moemon Emerald and BlazeBlack/VoltWhite.

>>376664657
best post-game out of any pokemon game desu

>>376686784
FireRed and Emerald seem like the only ones that make significant changes to the game itself rather than just changing encounters and enemy teams. Yet Another FireRed Hack is probably one of my favorites, it replaces most of the Kanto 150 with newer gen Pokemon, adds the physical special split, and actually gives the games some challenge.

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Post your niggers /v/

>>376687449
You already have

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>>376664187
but i do

>>376685478
why not take a break and try some Yokai Watch?

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>>376687449

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>>376687449
One of the only redeemers from that god awful gen.

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>>376687449

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>>376687449

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>>376687449
This guy and Slowbro.

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>>376687449

>>376664861
Gen 5 was garbage in every area. Keep excusing its shittiness because of "MUH POSTGAME CONTENT" though.

>>376665371
actually they introduced content like deoxy rayquaza post game which is at least 4 hours extra gameplay

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>>376687449
Tie between this and Marowak(either form)

>>376664187
>>He doesn't think this is the best Pokemon game
But I do.
>>376664657
Runner up.

>>376671765
autistic as fuck.

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>>376664932
>Emerald and Platinum
>can rematch gym leaders when you want each day

>HG/SS
>can only rematch a single gym each day within a specific 4-hour time frame

Johtofags need to fuck off.

>>376670028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEtbaAfdrQw

>>376670126
The people who list HGSS and B2W2 as good games are always the brand loyalists with bad taste and they frequently get called out for how bad the games really are. Never listen to them.

>>376686784
im playing storm silver right now. its fucking great.

>>376689651
Why are they bad and what do you think are better?
>inb4 all pokemon is bad.

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People who hate vanilla B/W are the kind of people upset if they don't run into a Zubat/Geodude/Tentacool/Magicarp every game. It was a game that took you out of your comfort zone and forced you try knew Pokemon rather than defaulting. Sure, you had Pokemon that filled obviously the same roles as previous generation Pokemon but you still couldn't default to old favorites. The worst thing it did was play it too safe with certain archtypes and not experiment more and it's low level curve and insane evolution levels for late game Pokemon.

BW2 is an objective improvement and anyone who played X/Y after could feel how much a downgrade that game was.

I would love another 150+ Generation, but only if they basically tossed every established archtype out and made 150 Pokemon that were unique as Araquanid

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>>376687449
His typing sucks ass, but goddamn if a giant metal dinosaur isn't an awesome design

>>376689714
They pander to nostalgiafags and people who think a slightly padded postgame redeems an overall bad main game.

The best pokemon game is Pokemon XD: Gale of Darnkess

>>376665371
I hate x/y with a burning passion, and sun and moon are pretty ok. also a return to form where music is concerned, but that's mostly because go ichinose game back to compose

>>376666987
>>376666269
because it wasn't am emerald remake, it was a r/s remake

>>376689714
>Why are they bad and what do you think are better?
For HGSS, the same reasons listed by other people ITT: terrible level curves, unfixed pokemon distribution across regions, and new mechanics that were more cosmetic than fun. . Haven't played B2W2 but when it came out I saw how it increased the story segments from BW, so since I wasn't satisfied with BW and saw the Megas in XY, I decided to drop the series.

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Is this accurate?

>>376689847
>the best game is the gamecube one
What? Not only does that game run slower than molasses, part of the entire freedom of the game is taken from you. You don't catch your own monsters, they're all given to you or you steal them.

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>>376687449
I unintentionally made this guy a powerhouse and he got me through so many tough times late in the game.

>>376690056
6 needs to be bigger head
7 needs to just be lines and circles and shit

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>>376690056
Pretty much, although I think 5 and 6 are interchangeable.

>>376690056
Gen 1 is too round, Gen 3 is not humanoid enough, Gen 6 doesn't look like Yokai Watch.

>>376668957
>Feraligatr is the only viable one
But that's not Typhlosion

>>376690056
Only Gen 2.

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What animal would you like see become a pokemon /v/?
>Type: Water/Fighting
>Has access to priority moves like mach punch, bullet punch, and sucker punch because mantis shrimps punch ridiculously fast

>>376668763
I'll give it to you, all the route themes are delicious as fuck to listen to but BW2 Battle themes like the PWT finals are a massive eargasm.

>>376670719
Why do you do this??

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>>376687449

Gen 1 and 2 are better than any modern Pokemon crap.

Fuck your meta, nothing else about the games surpass the first two.

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>>376692484
Gen 1 is boring and Gen 2 is filled with babymons and ugly fucks

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>>376692484
Gen 2 has shit quest design. Pokemon distribution and their learnsets and the TMs you get suck ass and the level progression shits the bed at multiple points. Gen 1 might be mechanically broken in multiple ways and the challenge might be nonexistent but at least they're still a functional JRPG.

The series peaked with gen 5.

>>376673739
And if you for some reason picked the awful male MC you get a cute waifu to chat with.

>>376690325
I actually like that simplified Krabby

>>376690648
A poison/dragon komodo dragon pseudo.
Also, more mythologic/legends based pokemon.

>>376690056
....
That gen 4 fakemonfusion looks cool
Bug/fighting?
Dragon/fighting?

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>>376666837
I fucking love the her champ theme. It didn't make me feel any less excited than any other champ theme. No idea why most people seem to feel differently.

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>>376687449
This nigga right here

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>>376687449

>>376692842
Nah it peaked with Platinum, Explorers of Sky and HG/SS. Gen 4 was such a good time holy shit.

>>376693436
its a combo of toxicroack palkia darkrai and looks like reshiram too

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>>376664187
It has the best dragon in the intro so of course its amazing

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>>376687449
Hated him at first but this guy slowly grew on me to become one of my favorite mons.
If only he had some more gimmicky moves available.

>>376694085
And Blaziken's stance/proportions/hands.

>>376694189
yeah i didnt want to include blazekin because its gen 3

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Personally I think Sun/Moon is the best Pokemon game we've gotten so far.

I really liked everything about the journey this time around. As a guy who doesn't give a shit about the competitive online aspect or the post game stuff, playing through the game is the most important part of Pokemon games for me and I feel like S/M did it really fucking well. HMs are gone, they made traveling less of a pain in the ass, they put more effort into the story and characters, and even upped the difficulty of some of the story fights so they can actually feel intimidating if you didn't grind your ass off like most people do.

It's like the developers got off their asses and threw out some of the shitty tradition they've been carrying over into the games for quite a while now.

>>376694995
I felt the same way for a month, then I dropped the game half-way through out of boredom and realized BW2 was the peak of the franchise.
I liked the ending and the whole cast in Sun/Moon though, they finally nailed the "one-trait" character thing.

>>376694995
i too like that they removed everything, made it so training pokemon took no effort and railroaded the story to the point of having an arrow tell you where to go and having no real ares of interest. Plus removing any challenge from the game was a good idea, i like having my pokemon healed at every turn and chance

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>>376687449

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>boot up any Pokémon game
>think about all the NPC and wild battles, dialogue and just how long the games are if you dont marathon
>turn them off in a few minutes

I think SM burned me for good. Its been more than 2 months, maybe 3 that I dont play it normally. Not even old gens are helping.

>>376677405
>Nuzlocke
How to spot a cuck.

>>376695869
How so?

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>>376695820
The Unown shit scared me so much as a child, the ruins, the music, their uncanny designs, and the fucking CGI in the third movie. Everything surrounding them had to be surreal as fuck.

>>376690056
It starts to lose accuracy as it goes, but mostly correct.

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>>376674240
Mega Flygon fucking when?

>>376664657
Why wasn't Crystal called Platinum in the first place

>>376696337
Never, they just gave him dragon dance and called it a day.
Thanks game freak.... I guess...

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Not even reading the thread. Just popping in to say BW are the best Pokemon games followed by B2W2.

>>376689380
get this gross nerd out of my face, he did not deserve the win

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I dont wanna sound like an oldfag but when i first saw Gen 3 i was both amazed but also skeptical, it felt so different to me, dont get me wrong its decent but it does feel different and this feeling grew even more with each passing gen to the point that its not the same anymore. Again do not mind a different take on the series, keeping things fresh, but the overall consistency is slim, ok so we got god-like pokemon, and weaponized pokemon and ancient weapons of destruction and things from another dimension?!? HUH? In my opinion pokemon was a series that you catch monster-like creatures and use them as pets/companions/whatever in a modern setting. Now granted that even gen 2 which is my favorite did some "out of place things" about the legendaries, but these are myths and stories, but im serious, tell me how exactly a weapon of mass destruction or powerfull beings from another dimension fit in a pokemon game.

I will always defend Crystal as my favorite pokemon game even though I know it's mechanically a pretty bad game if I look at it objectively.

I mean, I know a lot of it is nostalgia, but it firmly cemented itself in that slot when I was a kid.

>those chiptunes that worked with the limited sound chip instead of struggling to be bigger than it, like literally every pokemon game after did
>that general aesthetic of being in a part of japan that was both rapidly modernizing (with goldenrod city and the magnet train) and also really classic (with ecruteak and the towers) and the way they come together (like in lavender town)
>night time only adding to the vibes
>you get to revisit the first game
>all the themes are remixed; they're more or less the same songs, but with a nostalgic air
>radio towers
>that champion theme
>you can fucking fight yourself from the first game
>whole game has a relaxed vibe to it; there's no urgent need to stop some team destroying the world - the worst that happens is team rocket takes over a radio tower trying to regain their former glory; there's no plot to flood the world, or dry the world up, or destroy the world or take over the world; it's just an old team basically having a last hurrah to get their old boss's attention
>even the rival, who starts off a complete asshole, learns how to be a good trainer
>and I can't stress enough how important the music is

>>376677405
I like all the gen 7 starters, even if incineroar was clearly a fire/fighting type that was later changed and primarina was a total cakeboy with a clown nose

>>376668146
Nah you're wrong. Lickylicky has the benefit of being STAB boosted

>>376678134
Did you clean both terminals?

>>376689847
>XD
fuck off kid

>>376664861
>platinum
>barely better
>fixing the shit pokedex
>fixing the stupid leveling gaps
>rearranging gym order to make it make sense
>speeding the gameplay up
>adding content
>adding actual post-game content

It takes the worst games in the series and turns them into the best game of the series.

>>376693995
>explorers of the sky
My nigga. It's in it's own league when you compare it to the main games though.

>>376667230
sauce

>>376667230
the best 4 games can't also be the worst 4 sales-wise

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>>376698286
I remember when i first saw Silver and was blown away by everything it threw at me, fast forward to the present i find myself completely unphased and still playing Crystal over and over again. Some might think im way to autistic but im serious, nothing can ever change my opinion of this game and i'll never let go, to be fair i do feel the same for other games too, but 2nd gen pokemon games? I'll keep playing these bad boys till i drop dead. The adventure never ends.

>>376698435
A-Golems explosion is stab boosted

>>376668957
>Kanto was watered down and barren, and it shows that Johto had to get neutered for it to matter at all

What the fuck?
I can totally agree with you when talking about GSC, but in HGSS they fixed Kanto

Lt.Surge gym puzzle is back
Viridian Forest is back
Cerulean Cave and Seafoam Islands are back
Pewter Museum is open again
Cinnabar and Viridian gyms are now real gyms as well

What do you want more? the return of Silph Co. and Pokemon Tower? come on, this is still a game that focus mostly on Johto

>>376698946
My man. I don't give a fuck how much autism it takes to do so, any man who appreciates g/s/c as I do is my nigga till the end of time.

>>376700390
Why thank you, feels good to find others with similar opinions of the game. and recently i bumped up the autism by working on a rom hack of crystal although my goal is to fix minor issues with the game, make all pokemon obtainable without trading and adjust some encounters here and there. So in general its crystal but slightly fixed.

>>376698286
So is there a hack or modded version that fixes whatever flaws it has to make it an "objectively" bad game?

>>376700945
I'm pretty sure there are rom hacks that already do that and more.

Gladion was the best part of sun and moon. It felt so good to have an edgy rival again.

>>376703108
Im aware, but none of them stick to the original game so i decided to do it myself. I might also do a version with increased difficulty in the future and maybe extra features.

>>376703149
and his battle network style theme

>>376703232
But, I believe there are... exactly that, romhacks just making every pokemon available and upping the difficulty and certain fixes and that's it. But if you say it's not like what you're going to do, alright. Can you make a blog or something so I can download your romhack when it's done?

>>376703149
What are you talking about? YOU are the Rival in SunNMoon

>>376703581
I got a github since i use the rom's disassembly. You can check the readme for what i've done so far. You can grab the latest rom too. Its entry level changes yes but gotta start somewhere.

https://hax.iimarckus.org/topic/6978/
https://github.com/UberMedic7/patched-crystal/releases

>>376703840
thank you

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We all know S/M is the best, though.

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>>376705207
For the reasons that have nothing to do with actual pokemons

>>376665371
Not of them got fully retail priced patches like the Gen 3,4 and 5 games did.

>>376698286
>GSC
>mechanically bad
How? Gen 2's the first poke generation that manages to be a solid game that holds up without having to pull the "it's old, please understand" card.

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>>376698727
google zonkpunch

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>>376687449

>>376665189
People who utter the level curve are so retarded I can't fathom how they manage to persist living on this world

>>376665671
No you are an utter delusional retard who cannot fucking think or do research on his own.

I am also certain you either never played hgss or never played gsc

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Ranking of pokegames by someone on /v/ and not /vp/ who has played and replayed all of them:
Black/White 2
Fire red/Leaf green
Sun/Moon
Emerald
Crystal
Black/white
Yellow
XY
Platinum
HG/SS
ORAS

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The pararellism between pokemon and real life pets is clear in this context.
There are many pets that are held captive more than part of a family, animals held in display and others forced into things while never given the chance to run away free.
Seeing birds in cages in people's homes truly disgusts me

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>>376703149
The only remotely edgy thing about Gladion is the way he dresses (in defiance of his mother's wishes, no less). Otherwise he's a total bleeding heart.

>>376708638
the problem is that a lot of these animals couldn't even survive in the wild. Not having learned the skills.
So as much as small hutches for guinea pigs and rabbits sucks, they wouldn't make it if they ran away

>>376709815
That is whoever' breeds them fault.
Animals kept in zoo can't survive on the wild? What about parrots and other birds? Or dogs kept captive in a house never taken for a walk?
That is not an arguement, it's like breaking a vase and pretending it was easy to break anyway

>>376709962
a good example of very common pet torture is the goldfish

a lot of people think it is a tiny fish that lives for a few months to a year at best, doesn't require a lot of room and needs virtually no special attention making it a perfect beginner pet

when actually the goldfish is a species that lives for 20+ years in captivity, grows to fairly large sizes and requires a large volume of water to remain healthy. Goldfish in a bowl are simply slowly poisoned to death.

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>>376710947