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>game has almost 20 party members >The two most boring

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>game has almost 20 party members
>The two most boring and dull characters in the game are required for all of the main missions and like half of the side missions
Why is this shit allowed?
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>>376621575
But I liked Lyn and Elma
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>>376621575
im currently on chapter 9 i believe but so far im fine with the characters, if not all of them. Sure, sometimes the game has this weird vibe like it tries to be a western made anime or something but its not bad. If anything while i was doing affinity missions i've come to like or hate some characters, and even hate towards a character is good because that shows they work in the game and make you feel things about them instead of being some filler NPC that doesnt show any personality.
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>>376622554
They're both just so fucking boring. Neither of them has a personality.
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>>376622664
Most of the cast outside of the main seven is pretty good but none of them get any spotlight because the main seven (and especially Elma and Lin) are always hogging the spotlight. But despite hogging the spotlight so much none of them really have much character development.
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>>376622723
>Neither of them has a personality.
Sure they do.

Elma is a soldier through and through and always sticks to her guns while Lin is genki girl with a fanaticism for Skells (Dolls).

They have more dialogue than the average NPC too.

Sure they may not interact with the rest of your party all that much unlike the previous game, but they don't completely lack in personality either.
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>>376621575
I always used murderess and her rival whenever I could
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>>376621575
Because voice acting.

Other party members don't have lines recorded for those missions, so you're bringing Elma and Potato instead.
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>>376622992
I dont mind the fact that you spend most of the time with these 2 in fact its somewhat refreshing having two female characters tag along but not being the generic helper females. After all storywise they save your life, you cant just tell them to take a hike and find new friends. Who's gonna cook you dinner then, huh?! Also, affinity missions give the other characters time to shine storywise.
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>>376622723
To say that Lyn didn't have a personality is fucking stupid. As soon as you said that I thought of the scene where she catcalls the skell, and realized you say shit just to say shit. Get off /v/ and think before you open your mouth next time.
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>Meet alien
>He joined the team isn't that great
>Almost never brought up again, just becomes the city Jew in some side plot
>Yet in the concept art he's literally Satan
The writing may have had some minor Issues
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>>376623179
>Elma is a soldier through and through and always sticks to her guns while Lin is genki girl with a fanaticism for Skells (Dolls).
That's really all there is to them though. Geek girl and soldier girl. They don't have much depth beyond that.
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>>376622723
But that's their personality :^)
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>>376621575
Did you just talk shit about Lin and thought you could get away with it, punk?!
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i wnat to fuck elmo
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No doubt Elma's there for plot relevance in whatever the hell X thought it was going to do in the likely nonexistent sequel. Lin's there because Cross is a J-body and having a mechanic like lin on your team while field-testing a J-body would be hella convenient.
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quick, post your fav track from the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmdnpbmM4pc

>m-muh lyrics ruin everything
gotcha covered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kKThlPCc7Y
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Who was L
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>>376625067
>discovery of superb view
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>>376623697
No fucking kidding, let's also not forget Celica. Her recruitment is optional; however out of the 8 extra characters she's the only one besides Nagi who is forcibly introduced in the main story (by way of a required affinity mission, but still)
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UH UH YEAH
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It wouldn't have been so bad if absent party members leveled up with you like in the first one. Why did they remove that in the game with three times the amount of playable characters?
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>>376625257
Sylvalum at night.

The rest of the continent themes are pretty good too.
So is Manon Ship.
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i skipped the wiiu, do yall think they'll port this game to the switch? loved the first one
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>>376625257
Hearing that riff wind up while you're tiptoeing around a crazy powerful tyrant was the best shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5uHAPpcIo4
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>>376625678
No
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>>376625257
Fuck what /v/ says, this game has fantastic music. Sylvalum Night gets my dick hard every time.
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>>376622723
You didn't do their quests, huh
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>>376625787
I did.
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More importantly I was told this would emulate perfectly but it's 20fps, has shit sound and the bloom is awful. What gives?
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>>376625553
I say pick 3-5 to worry about and then just grind the rest on Joker. lvl-50 mech+phoenix wing+insect slayer XX makes him a cakewalk
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>>376625553
Leveling up the stragglers in X is fucking easy though, due to the way that exp from enemy kills scales up where they're higher than your level.

Just slap a phoenix weapon on your strongest skell and clear Sandspirit Cavity in Sylvalum.
Just don't aggro the sleeping tyrant in there.

Yes, that method is faster than killing Joker in the big flower in Noctilum.
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>>376625771
It's just shitters who haven't played the game memeing it up with the most (in)famous songs anyway
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>>376625678
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>>376625868
>>376625893
Not him but that doesn't fix the problem while you're actually playing the game. You don't get a level 50 skell until almost the very end of the story.
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I unironically bought a Wii U for this game. I got pretty late into it, beginning of this year actually.
>tfw was in every single xenoblade thread way before that
>tfw the end and surprise had not been spoiled for me in all that time
These threads are comfy, even if they start out with blatant shitposting like OP
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>tfw xenoblade x had some very good characters
>nobody cares
That future dude was very interesting.
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>>376625257
I honestly cant pick just one because of how i like the music of the game overall.

>YEAH, UH UH UH

I dont mind this either. If anything its alright for its purpose and when the more serious/epic tracks play, thats when it gets me all hyped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuVRnUvdmz4
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>>376626085
Nobody cares because none of them are party members and the actual party members are bland.
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>>376626031
And you're only going to be using those other party members for side content that you can do at any time, so what exactly is the problem?
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>Take Elma on boat
>Go in straight line
>Measure latency
>Go in another direction
>Measure latency
>Repeat and triangulate

Lifehold core found within a week and we're back in time for Thursday bingo.
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>>376625751
>>376625982
guess not. will still get to play 2 tho.
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>>376626248
Because then you're overleveled as fuck for the side missions and they aren't fun
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>>376626054
They were the comfiest around release tho. When I got the game around christmas I was too busy playing to post here and dropped out of the threads, if pic related is any indication I missed the comfiest time. I recognize several of the characters from the threads I did see, like Vanaris' character for example.

I'll forever be salty I wasn't there to get my character included in this
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>>376626271
took me a moment, kek'd
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>>376626291
Then why is it a problem if the side characters are at a low level?
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>>376621575
Over a year old, still no SFM of the characters
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Doug
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>>376625787
Backstory =/= personality
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Wasn't there a patch to fix the character customization or something? How hard do you have to hack your WeeU to deploy it?
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>>376626181
There's still a lot of good party members to have. Though I'm still made we couldn't have the Wrothians as party members.
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>>376621575
Ema is the protagonist, you are the goofball who tags along
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Why don't they release on Switch? Would it undermine the sequel?
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>>376626452
Because its not good for them to just be getting one-shotted all the time either, and if they're a low level that means Elma and Lin are still doing everything
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>>376626559
Just mad in general that the aliens weren't reperesented in the party anyway. Where's my Orphean mastermind sidekick man?
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>>376626597
For a "protagonist" she sure didn't do much during the actual story.
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>>376625301
>L'Cirufe
>Lucifer
>In Xenoblade, you kill god
>In Xenoblade X, you befriend Satan
DEEPEST LORE
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I love the GG light gear (Elma's starting dear) but the purple one is the only color scheme of it I like.

Life is suffering.
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>>376621575
>No playable nopons
For what reason
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So... what's going on with Mira? Will we EVER get a sequel? Fuck all these niggas that cry for a port on Switch, why didn't you get it on Wii U when it mattered?
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Hah! Will I ever stop excelling?
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>>376626674
Yeah, the alien races were great, their missions were very fun. Maybe in the sequel (lol) we can have them as party members.
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>>376625257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY2kRPIic-I
This one is my guilty pleasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmUeqMnWmDY
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>>376626559
I thought FOR SURE I was getting this guy as a party member while doing his quest chain.
He even uses sniper rifles and photon sabers which are both under represented weapon types in your party.
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>>376626843
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>>376626471
Doug was right.
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So how likely is it that they tie this game to Xenoblade X somehow?
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>>376627003
Literally 0
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>>376627003
None. Xenoblade X is a sci-fi game, Xenoblade 1 and 2 are traditional JRPG fantasy.
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Anyone got the rest of the celica near bottom
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>>376626843
The thing that bugged me the most were Mira's Nopons
>XC
>Nopon are a cute and friendly race who live in a magical tree

>XCX
>Nopon are all a bunch of greedy assholes who smuggle drugs into other clans to keep them working as slaves
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How the fuck are there so many party members? Are they all shit?
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>>376626972
Yeah, Gi Zang was the shit. I'm certain him and Slovity and practically everyone in the fighting tournament sidequest were at least planed as potential party members at one point.
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>>376627134
There are many classes in the game the player can be. There is one party member for each class.
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>>376627134
Most of them are shit. Like there's a bunch of characters who share Elma's class but none of them can ever be as good as Elma due to their stat distribution and arts. Same for Lin, all the tanks are worse than her.
And pretty much every party member is useless in post-game, at that point you more or less have to kill the bosses by yourself.
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>>376627134
Four of the party members were DLC in Japan.
Most party members are pretty good.
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>>376625067
I've got you covered
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>>376627134
Some of them are okay, some of them are just kind of weird or bland. Overall they're better than /v/ makes them out to be.
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>>376625067
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>>376626906
Ok, the deal with Mira is the Zohar is on it
The game has a lot of similarities with the backstory of Xenogears, and the Lifehold Core is basically the Kadomony, and it's shown in game shitting out bioweapon abominations like what Deus is.
The Zohar is the only missing piece and the type of god powers the Wave Existence that resides in it has would explain Mira's weirdness.
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>Hope's mentor blows her fucking brains out right in front of her protege after getting caught selling humans to genocidal aliens
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I hope to fucking God that they do not introduce stupid animal mascot with a speech inpediment in Xenoblade 2.

Even though I know they will, they can't thanks to Xeno 1. Its one of the primary reasons I dump off JRPGS. Just fucking why?
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>>376627119
>Someone saved my pic
Which one is it, my man?
I got them saved here.
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>>376626906
My guess is that mira is some kind of haven for preserving life against something, since it seems to be drawing in troubled races and giving them the ability to speak to one another. this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YnzbW7gTU
plays most memorably in connection to celica's recruitment and appropriately accompanies her shtick for disliking violence and wanting peace and to protect. It also plays during the scene where Elma/Lin/Tatsu/thos ma-non establish the whole translation deal, hinting at mira's purpose.

My personal crack theory: given takahashi's love for gnosticism, I think mira is a device for safely surviving the death and rebirth of the universe. Recall that Luxaar described the samaar as "arriving from another plane" at "the dawn of the cosmos"
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>>376627519
Thansk for this, I'll read up on the game's lore you mentioned because I haven't played it. I only played Xenoblade on 3DS and Wii U
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>>376626907
Best boy
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>>376627612
>the queerbait character
>best anything
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>>376627596
I like this theory
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>>376627551
>you didn't protect that beautiful smile
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>>376627643
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>>376627580
the one near bottom with celica and what I think is a player character? that also has blond hair.
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>>376627560
Nigga they're going full harem animu and introducing a fucking catgirl, you better be ready for the Nyapocalypse.
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>>376627794
It's a MC with the meme hair. Enjoy.
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>>376627280
>Same for Lin, all the tanks are worse than her.

Actually, all three of the shield wielders are some of the best party members. Mostly because they're support characters and the AI will always shit the bed when it comes to efficiently using their kit to DPS.
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>>376627879
I wish the party members didn't have such garbage AI.
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>I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
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DUDE EATING NOPONS LMAO
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Post your teams /v/
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>tfw you will never have her in your party
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For those of you still playing, do the Global Nemesis still pop up every now and then?

I'm on a trip right now and I won't be back home for another two weeks, but I still need the achievement for dealing the nemesis the final blow. Is it too late?
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>>376628083
They don't really come around anymore
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>>376625257
>Fighting some shitmonsters for a sidequest
>HB uses the AOE taunt ability
>Guitar riff intensifies
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>>376628043
>no Alexa
>no Murderess
Homosexual
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>>376628128
But have they been blocked or is it due player innactivity? If it's because of the later then I can manage somehow.
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>>376627956
>SLIDING SLINGER
>slides right off a fucking cliff

rip elma
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>>376628043
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>>376627598
I reccommend this playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfKq4rzetPkzY8dYoz2oHQ-s113KBPojF

it's kind of choppy because he tries voicing at some point despite his choppy english and shitty mic and he changes his mind on some things between videos, causing some inconsistencies. But they're great

The mira video is especially bad about it, but it has some of the best shit about what mira's really doing and basically answers the question about why everybody's still alive after the lifehold core's descruction: short version is, according to concept art, mira has at least two lifehold cores of it's own about its north pole to which the human's conciousnesses have no doubt been forcibly migrated. since the lifehold core came from technology supplied by elma, this has interesting implications for elma's origin (and you'll see a lot of that in the rest of those videos) And yes, that's the short verison.
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>>376628137
>not taking that skill off their bar after the very first time that happens
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>>376628083
I played the game for the first time back in Dec/Jan and I got to kill them both.
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>>376628247
God yes I love stuff like this, you saved my evening anon, thanks
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>>376627759

One of these days I need to work out the inconsistencies in the playlist I mentioned in >>376628247 and square it off with what I've noticed from environmental details (I'm a metroidfag, I catch on to those) and the notes I've taken from the soundtrack that I mentioned earlier.
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>>376628043
Mia, Alexa and whatever.
Depends on what I need.
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>>376627083
Xenoblade 1 is sci-fi as shit what are you talking about?
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>>376627850

Thanks man

I was hoping there was more in the original but I'm under the impression that's not under your control since I don't think it's your art. Oh well
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The writing in this game is so fucking abysmal. What a disappointment.
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>>376628369
Kill, kill, or simply survive?
It's hard for me to kill since I always seem to find someone raking crazy amounts of RP.
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>>376622723
>>376624517
The word you're looking for is flat. They are flat characters.
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>>376628523
No, the art is not mine. I simply did the new big mashup of images but that's the original pic. At least that's how it was provided and everything I got back then was full sized.

Have an extra.
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>>376627956
I wish the up/down buttons on dpad could let you switch the character you're controlling. That one little feature would have improved the combat so much.

>>376627956
Alright where's the miiverse art of that. Please tell me someone has it

Fuck me my fingers are going numb and getting jittery. I need to eat lunch. For those of you who remember from the release treads, I'm the xenosagafag who couldn't get it till christmas cuz too poor to even afford 3 meals. Richer now but still in the habit of not eating till 3 or so
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>>376628628
For whatshisface I was just sort of there and got carried by someone kicking ass in an Ares90, for the Telethia I was the one in an Ares90 racking up the kills. I was free to play all day at the time so I don't recall how long they stayed up.
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>>376628083
It takes for ever but yeah. I'm trying to get the true plastron/etc. set but it's a pain in the ass since he'll only drop a max of 18 noble scalesper spawn, and only comes around once every 3 weeks

>>376628043
Elma/Celica/L. Nobody on my team is human.
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Based purely on whom I want to fuck

Elma > Alexa > Murderess > Celica > Irina > Mia > Lin > Hope

Hope last because she's for marriage only and not lewding
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ONE TWO THREE FOUR
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>>376628523
>I was hoping there was more in the original

By "more" you mean like this right?
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They really fucked everything up with the characters in general, a really sad departure from XC. Having a small cast of likable party members is better than having 20 you don't give a fuck about. I know some of them were added as DLC or whatever but they pretty much all suck with the exception of a few.

And having to manually round them up to be in your party is retarded.
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>>376629015
LET'S START THE RACE WAR
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>>376628628
Funnily enough, nowadays we'll have to band together and do exactly that to get the achievement, since the playerbase is too small to finish him off anymore
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>>376629148
speak for yourself
fuck xbc
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>>376628043
People who don't have some combination of Nagi, Celica, Elma, Mia, Alexa, and Yelv are literal subhumans.
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>>376628780
I like you. Anything for the celica pile man

Deep inside I hope the xenosaga fanart I'm dumping makes up for it
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>>376621575

I hate that I loved this game so much despite its very, VERY obvious flaws.

I'd kill for a more "complete" feeling version of it.

I am still so bootyblasted that the next Xeno game is a sequel to XBC, the game that had closure.
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>>376621575
I like the character design you show, is it an action oriented game? What's the name?
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>>376629278
Not him but no one even likes X's characters.
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>>376628840
You simply survived then. I meant getting the RP down to 0. That's what gives you the achievement.

>>376628923
Thanks, I just need them to appear. I can do the killing just fine.
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>that fucking stupid twist
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>>376629393
Nice assumption, retard.
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>>376629378
Xenoblade chronicles X. It's a WiiU game so I hope you're a nintenbro. Fair warning though, it has it's fair share of flaws and the "offline MMO" meme is actually a little bit more than a meme.
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>>376629509
They aren't anywhere near as popular or well-liked as the ones from the original game.
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>>376629148
>And having to manually round them up to be in your party is retarded.

Like seriously. If they're all members of BLADE, why can;t i contact them through the fucking BLADE Scout Terminal?

>>376629378
Xenoblade X
JRPG with light action elements (some moves have i-frames during their animations which is really useful if your timing is good)
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>>376629337
Same, somehow I'm still enjoying it 420+ hours in
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>>376629579
And? Doesn't mean no one likes them.
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>>376629636
>420 hours

DUDE
SKELLS
LMAO
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>>376629583
i-framing for shiggy-ygg's stomp attack is a must if you're too cheap to craft a resist.topple XX
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>>376629309
Here you go, this is the last one I have, unfortunately but it seems other anons are contributing as well.
And yes, the art you're dumping is totally worth it. Keep it up.

Does anyone have the dl link to the XCX complete works? I have it on my hard drive but that thing's at home, otherwise I would upload it.

>>376629337
It's a guilty pleasure. Despite the flaws people just keep going back for more. We're not the only ones.
I was hoping they would port XCX to the Switch because I really can't stand to lose all the progress I've made and I don't want to leave things unfinished in terms of achievements. It could be XCX Deluxe or whatever.
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>>376629636
Literally how? There is nothing to do at that point except one shot the same enemies you've already killed dozens of times.
What do you people do in this game for so long? Am I missing something?
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>>376629738
I just about lost my shit when I crafted my lvl 60 lailah and it's overdrived regenned health for 420/tick, in green text no less.

My sense of humour is basic as fuck
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>>376621575
>First Mission
>USE AN AURA GET CONTROL OF THE BATTLE
>USE AN AURA GET CONTROL OF THE BATTLE
>USE AN AURA GET CONTROL OF THE BATTLE
>Already hate this Bitch by the time I get to NLA
>Lynn happens
>Can't even finish this trainwreck of a game
>See all the shit that was supposed to happen that got scrapped
>NoA
>See the ending out f morbid curiosity
I'm willing to argue this game has a plot worse then Sonic 06.
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>>376629782
is that all the concept art? if someone has a dl link for all of it that'd be great
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I wanna fuck Elma
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>>376629583
>>376629515
Thanks, I'm not a hardcore nintendbro but lately I've noticed there are lots of good exclusives (PC dude)
Does it emulate well for cemu by chance?
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>>376629879
>Has shit tastes
>Gets triggered
>Can't git gud
>Quits like a bitch
Story of your life, anon.
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>>376629965
>Does it emulate well for cemu
no
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>>376629745
Lialah's overdrive gives complete status immunity, which includes topple, so that's another way.
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>>376629924
XenobladeX The Secret File - Art of MIRA
326 pages of art goodness.
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>>376629393
you mean monadobabbies didn't like the characters and everyone else did
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>>376629965
>Does it emulate well for cemu by chance?
Not yet. Plenty of room for improvement there.
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>>376630113
No I mean people who liked the characters are a tiny, tiny minority.
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>>376630043
yeah that's what I did when I was trying to see if shiggy-ygg could drop 99 scales. lailah for life man
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>>376629953
who /elmaperson/ here
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>>376621575
What an awful game.
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>>376629782
Aw shit
>>376629049
you da real mvp(s)
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Is this game worth getting a Wii U for? Is it even fun? I haven't owned a nintendo console since the GC because they have no games that interest me, this one is an exception but I'm not sure if it's worth 200 bucks.
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>>376630256
Elma is actually a good example of how waifufag pandering can ruin a game's story.
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>>376630256
TWO DISCS!

I'm more of a Murderess/alexa person, but I can appreciate Elma.
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>>376630256
I certainly am.
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>>376627476
do it for her
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>>376629997
You don't have any auras at the start of the game genius. It wasn't a "Git gud" issue it was a "Story is so bad I wanted to die" issue.
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>>376630328

Getting a Wii U gives you access to ~4 games worth a damn: Bayo 1+2, Xeno, BotW. Other anons can chime in with their favorites/opinions, but these are the only ones I care about in any capacity.
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>>376630207
that's because most people who played xbcx just wanted to play a hd monado chronicles. monadobabbies need a character shouting "reyn time" at them otherwise they can't cope
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>>376630438
Achieving infinite overdrive for the first time is satisfying as fuck. I think mine was on an attempt at Lugalbanda. Ended up being my first success too.
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Why did X have such a terrible dub after the original one's godly dub?
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>>376630641
NoA
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>>376630595
>Cares about Bayo but not W101
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>>376630602
Xbabbies need a generic brown waifu with no character development shouting "sliding slinger" at them otherwise they can't cope
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>>376629181
FUCKING MA-NON GET OFF MY PIZZA
REEEEE
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>>376630207
They wre certainly done very differently.
Characters in X were much less relevant to the plot, with few exceptions and having so many of them there certainly are low and high points.

So even if they're not all great like in XC, you can easily ignore most of them and you'll even have replacements for the same role elsewhere.
Hell, for the utility sake you don't even need to use written characters.

But I'd say I was surprised on how much I loked a lot of them. Like half. And straight up adored half of those.
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>>376630602
Is it just me or was she way cuter in the cutscene than in the postgame option to be Ayylma in gameplay?
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>>376630595
Honestly, only Xenogears appeals to me, don't care about Bayonetta or Zelda at all. Bayonetta is on PC now too if I ever do become interested, which I doubt.
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>>376630317
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>>376630783
>you can easily ignore most of them and you'll even have replacements for the same role elsewhere.
That's wrong though. If you ignore them you miss out on some parts of the story and you also miss some arts, which you might want for your character.
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>>376630595
I'll chime in, I wasn't interested in splatoon and never think "oh I wanna play splatoon" but every time I do it's super fun.

Splatoon is just a fun game.
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>>376630730

I knew this comment was coming, but it honestly didn't charm me (and as my love of X shows, I am susceptible to charm in the face of an otherwise bad game). More than willing to admit I have objectively bad taste, but can't bring myself to care about changing it.
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>>376630976
>otherwise bad game
X has flaws but I'd never call it bad.
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>>376630785
I had that impression too.
But choosing clothes that go well with delicious brown is easier than clothes that go well with albino Elma.
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>>376630641
Americans can't into acting. British acting culture is about training people to perform Shakespeare, American acting culture is thousands of untrained twenty-somethings flocking to LA for a shot at becoming famous.
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>>376631069
>delicious brown
This is literally the only reason you autists like Elma.
Fucking waifufags are cancer.
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>>376630907
You know what, since I asked and y'all have been delivering I should dump what I have
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Despite it not being as good as other ranged weapons, I still use the Delta Bliss as my Subweapon, I just like it alot.
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>>376631145
Incoming Celica official art dump.
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>>376631069
I just put her in the armor she has in the cutscene, or the silver version with ultra infinite veyes. Just to make her look more like kos-mos.
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WE'RE STUCK ON A DIFFERENT PLANET
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>>376631221
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>>376621575
Fucking BlackRose...
Perhaps if they didn't make Heavy Blades worthless, but they did.
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>>376631221
Cool, have a crop of that for use as avvy/phone background
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>Buy game at launch.
>Only just got to Chapter 9.

Gotta get around to beating it. I keep trying myself to put off buying Breath of the Wild until I knock this one off the backlog.
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>>376631316
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>>376631203
Yeah I generally found it underwhelming
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>>376623697
Because the game was originally going to feature the religious tones of the original game. They decided not to go with it when they were underway, so L was relegated to a regular old mysterious alium.

Kind of a shame, I'd love me another mech game with fucking gods and shit. Always cool to see tech go up against supernatural power.
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>>376631395
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>>376631393
I didn't play the game for a little while and when I went back I'd forgotten where half of my party members are and who was at what level so I stopped playing.
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>>376631123
But she's not even brown.
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>>376631483
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Is there a restoration patch for this yet?
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>>376630931
There aren't all that many useful arts, I tend to find. Even if you're interested in a couple for some very specific build, that's like 2 characters you'll need to befriend and those may or may not be to your liking.

What I'm saying is that the characters are a mixed bag, but the game is very flexible when it comes to the way you customize your party.
So even if you don't like the characters in X, that's merely a missed opportunity, rather than a genuine annoyance.

Imagine you didn't like, say, Sharla in XC. Welp, I sure you don't like playing as/with healers then because your options become somewhat limited in that respect. On the other hand, if you liked Sharla a lot, you better be happy to play with that role in your composition.
And this is not even shots fired aganist XC, because I even think they had a decent amount of role customization and almost flawless characters.
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>>376631563
Final one from the character pages.

I guess Elma fans deserve something so I'll start posting her pages.
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>>376631614
I'm pretty sure one existed literally years ago at this point if you mean one that puts the breast slider back in.
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>>376631558
She is for 98% of the game
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>>376631712
I can post bots later too, if you guys want.
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>>376631465
I feel like it may have been postponed until later, he claims he "much prefers" to simply be called L which may hint at him not liking what he really is. It's an archetype takahashi likes to explore (L always reminded me of chaos for no apparent reason) and the visual cue is there: unlike most demons with red skin/upward horns, L's is blue and his horns curve down.

I've always had the impression that much of what appears to have been dummied out of the concept art was just postponed into the sequel they were hoping to make, although the only hard evidence of that is Lao waking up on the beach with black knight contrasted with how it was originally going to take place in Neotokyo that had a beach in it.

Because of this link, if we do get a sequel my money says it will center on the japanese lifehold titled "neotokyo", far to the east/southeast of NLA, and feature Lao as the protagonist.
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>>376631875
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>>376631123
Somebody said it already itt.
Elma is a flat character. But that doesn't mean that's a bad thing.

For the role she plays in the story, that's not only to be expected, but also desirable.
By the time you get to her twist in the end, everything she says and does starts to make a lot of sense.

If somebody claims she's a deep or emotional evoking character, they're indeed just worshiping a waifu.
But she's a pleasant character that was handled exactly as the game "required" her to do.
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>>376631909>>376631909
>feature Lao as the protagonist.
You really think they'll force the player to play as a character they made us hate in the first game?
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>>376631712
Yeah I gotta go back to dumping those renders of the xenosaga E.S. Reuben was the last one I posted I think?
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>>376631986
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>>376627003
Apparently Vandam is in it.

But who knows.
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>>376631241
That's a good one!
I think she looks very good in skell bodysuits. Specialy that one with the skintight transparent areas.
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>>376632070
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I want to replay X but it just takes way too long to get going
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>>376632184
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>>376632016
Maybe. he bears some visual resemblence to the main character X was supposed to have, and it makes sense plot-wise. The main plot thread now is the question of how everyone's still alive, and it'd make sense to have lao be at the center of that followup since it was his tirade that first introduced us to the whole remotely-controlled-by-virtual-consiousness thing during his tirade in the first place.
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>>376631787
The slider was just a disabled thing you could switch back on in the game's files iirc. I meant something that also reverted the costume and name changes.
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>>376632150
hate to dunk on the other anon's jam but that's what she wore in the concept art. I think what it's trying to tell is that that outfit is a modified version of what Elma wore when she first arrived at earth, since she looks much younger in this.
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>>376632197
I'm currently in the end game, but I think I could reach the point I'm at in like 60 hours instead of the 260 I'm at.
As soon as you figure out how to min-max some decent enough build, you can breeze through most obstacles the game can throw at you.

Developing the affinity bars might be a bitch though.
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>>376626843

The theory is that since you died before the game even began you're in purgatory and trapped there with everyone else. You meet the devil on the beach in the final scene.

I don't feel like the game is too ambiguous at the ending because of that. I could be wrong
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>>376632197
It really does man

>>376632328
Wait what? how you do
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>>376632432
I'm getting to that page. No worries though, wait until they see what comes after it.
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I really wish I liked XBX more than I did.
There are some gameplay changes I liked, but other ones that just completely baffle me, like not having your entire party accessible to you at all times and not being able to rotate the MC out.
Also I didn't really find the story or any of the characters that interesting and that really killed my motivation to keep playing.
And the soundtrack wasn't that good, either
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>>376621575
I fucking hated this. They were always underlevelled because I used other party members instead.
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>>376632582
Can't wait to see this shit, I don't have em all
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>>376632740
Alas, I do not have the E.S. versions of Pilum and Scutum.
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>>376632697

>>376632658
Biggest problem with the soundtrack is that we couldn't turn off skell flight music. That's my biggest complaint. Also that the music we get in the divine nest is the weaker version of the music we get during one of Celica's cutscenes.
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>>376632454
>I think I could reach the point I'm at in like 60 hours instead of the 260 I'm at.
I thought this as well when I did my first replay, but you forget how hard it is to find good gear and craft things early on, and by the time you get enough arts and skills to make good combinations the game is almost over.
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I really miss playing this for days and weeks and talking on /v/ and /vg/ about recent discoveries and other stuff. It was a great time and a great game. Far from flawless but the strong points of it are literally perfect.
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>>376632725
The game REALLY should have used a global level for everyone.
Specialy since you have a defined main character that could never leave the party.
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It is my dream to some day obtain the outfit in pic related. It apparently has an insanely low drop rate on super high level monsters in Sylvalum, but some say it was censored in the west.
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>>376627126
There were assholes in the original, too.
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>>376632842
Fuck I knew Xord was familiar somehow!

>>376632740
I would dump the entire thing but unfortunately I am downloading each file from a link to my pc and then dumping them here one at a time. Getting the whole thing would take hours.

>>376632860
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>>376632947
>talking on /v/ and /vg/ about recent discoveries
I feel like people care more about the memes this game spawned than the lore or anything.
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>>376633034

>>376632973
Go to the console outside the barracks and select lvl 60 long sword and dual guns. Look for a guy named Arbitus or a girl named Aranea. Both have Treasure sensor XX, specially Arbitus which is full of them. Now go kill the monster with your Ares90, get your set, fap, done.
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>>376633080
You obviously weren't there around launch, we constantly had great threads discussing the lore and the implications of sidequests and shit, alongside the usual meme and waifuposting every major new releases get anyway.
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>>376632860
Weaker? man give it another listen, that shit's great. The connection to celica's theme is totally there though, and is definitely another piece of evidence that mira's purpose and celica's tendency to want to protect others are related.
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>>376633229
check >>376632432 for the pic

Here's the next one.
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>>376632892
Nah dude.
You can pretty much break the game with one XX or even XV overdrive extension augment and 2 or 3 skills.
Maybe even sooner if you use the ramjet rifle.

You won't be absolutely unstopable, and some enemies might give you trouble, but that should carry you so far, so quickly, that you can at that point farm for the rest of your build 100h sooner than you otherwise would.
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>>376632973
No fucking way that made it through the treehouse
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>>376633414
What I mean is that the music that appears in Celica's cutscene is the full version and would fit much better in the divine roost. I'm sorry for not providing the exact track since I'm getting all these images uploaded. Will do after I'm done here.

>>376633416
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>>376633229
Wait, that actually exists in the game? what monster? I thought it was just the regal-tier version and got recolored in NA because of the resemblence to elma's skin tone
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>>376633423
>You can pretty much break the game with one XX or even XV overdrive extension augment and 2 or 3 skills.
How much materials do those require though? And can you get them early on?
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>Uncontrollable starts playing and you don't know why
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>>376633426
It's a real outfit but the skin part was photoshop the same color as Elma's, it's usually pale green.
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>>376633576
That's recolored to Elma's skin but there is a variant that has a similar effect, for pale skins though, if I'm not mistaken.

>>376633568
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>>376633568
>>376633752
>/v/ loves lolis
>post official loli Elma
>no one gives a fuck
What's wrong with you today?
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>>376633568
Wait now I'm confused. I thought this played in the divine roost? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P8rdzRU4Ws
and it sounds pretty much exactly like in-game.

Are you saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YnzbW7gTU would fit better?
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>>376633867
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>>376633685
oh, I never considered that it would be a photoshop.
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>>376633576
>>376633752
Can anybody confirm the existence of these outfits? There has to be at least one anon here who has all the outfits and can post pics
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>>376633576
There's no armor that looks exactly like
>>376632973
In the game. They're all colored in for the parts that are skin tone in that pic.

You're getting memed on
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>>376633925
Yes. I feel like it fits better specially if we consider that it's still Noctilum. The music is also more upbeat and that's what's missing on that desolate place. The one ingame isn't bad I just feel like the other would be better, that's all.

>>376633979
Last Elma
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>>376634040
I have them all but can't post pics, can describe though. if it follows the convention of all other outfits, there are only two variants you can't view in the store. Both have a kind of cobalt-colored skin tone with the foil being black-ish for regal tier, gold for infinite tier (as is always the case for infinite tier)
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>>376633612
Thankfuly that augment is particularly easy to make. You probably can't really get the materials yourself, but you can buy them for cheap with tickets. Even cheaper if you make lots of rank V ones.

That's all you need, really. Just by having infinite overdrive and using 3rd tier arts you already turn into a super saiyan mode.
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>>376634164
Dump intermission, have some MC with boobs (also official)

>>376634040
The lewd plant outfit is in the game and is part of the orphean armor sets.
The ones in the concept art are not but some parts of that survived through other sets. You can see that the cape/poncho thing loli elma is wearing bears a resemblance to the Veyes top Elma uses in game.
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>>376634340
>You probably can't really get the materials yourself, but you can buy them for cheap with tickets.
Right, but when you go to the augment maker the materials in the list are just covered by question marks until you actually find them in the wild.
So how do you know which ones to buy?
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>>376634164
meh, I liked the dark and menacing feel the original had. really helped to hammer home that you were in the domain of the most powerful mob in the game, and while celica's theme would certainly have properly stated the telethia's divinity I feel like the telethia's disposition is too feral and hostile for celica's theme to work.

to that end yes, I believe that the telethia is only a servant of whoever or whatever made mira and is not directly connected to whoever is masterminding whatever the fuck is going on .
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>>376634458
The internet helps.
Also, some gear already comes with the augments so you could farm those as well. I'm guessing you are in post game content. If so there is a google doc with all the info you could possibly need.

Where to drop stuff, which sets come with which augments, weapons, skell weapons and so on.
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>>376632197
>Brother gets XCX for Christmas
>Loses all his games and shit for stealing our parents credit cards
>Decide to play on a new save file
>Holy fuck this intro is long as hell
>When does the cool shit start?
>Fuggit, I'm just gonna sell it
My experience with this game. I can see why people like it, just not my style of game.
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>>376634514
I just find that the area is too barren and the other theme while more upbeat would get you more pumped early on.
I'm also disappointed that Telethia doesn't get it's own battle theme. Missed oportunity.
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>>376634040
>>376634321
On that note, since I think I do have at least one piece from every regal/infinite set, maybe I should do that. how do you take good screenshots of gameplay? I don't have every piece of every set, but like I said I'm pretty sure I have at least one of them all which is enough to at least get a feel for the palette replacements.
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>>376634778
It does man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKCuAJdvynU

It's even one of my faves
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>>376634724
>Holy fuck this intro is long as hell
After you get control of your character for the very first time you can literally go and explore the fucking world at your leisure and luck.
Too bad you were too impatient to actually let that happen.
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>>376632197
Honestly when you skip cutscenes and mash through dialogs it's pretty fast to get going from my experience. In two days I was already at the skell license exam.
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>>376634321
Thanks for posting anon. It was too good to be true...
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>>376634778
>I'm also disappointed that Telethia doesn't get it's own battle theme
But it does?
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>>376632197
I got to the giant robots is under 4 and a half hours
>>376629738

It's not that bad, especially considering you can go basically everywhere starting with the chapter where they send you to Noctilum.
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>>376634778
>>376634863
also yeah I can see how the early sections would be good for it. It's just that the glossolalia, at least for me, communicates a sense of nobility and benevolence that's at odds with Telethia's history
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>>376634863
Damn... I forgot about that.
I gotta drop the Zenith Cannon, I can't even appreciate the music anymore since everything just dies so fast.
After 300 hours I either get flight or ground music, battle music doesn't exist and even overdrive lasts a few seconds unless it's a GN.
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>>376634458
Does that mean you can't buy them with tickets too? I genuinely don't know, but I think there's nothing stopping you.
Then again, if you're making lots of low tier augments you could very well get the stuff yourself. You don't need to be much higher than lvl 20 to kill auravis and progens.

And dude, if you're going out of your way to min-max so hard you're able to break the intended pacing of the game and powerlevel through the majority of it, of course you'd be looking this shit up on the internet.
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>>376634881
Yes and no. I doesn't really cut you loose with all the game's mechanics in place until after chapter 3 is completed.

I have no idea what the fuck the text in pic related is supposed to mean, but at least it's cute
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>>376634881
You don't even get overdrive until after chapter 5
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>>376627476
>mfw i dressed elma up in the same white suit
only thing this image is missing is a nice pair of glasses
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>>376635026
Yeah I use that but plan on farming for Electric Attack Up traits in all my other weapons and switching to trident-anchor at some point. I run a electric-themed build with infinite overdrive, voltaic-tusk, and zenith cannon presently.

vortice gave me more trouble than the fucking telethia
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>>376634881
>After you get control of your character for the very first time you can literally go and explore the fucking world

You actually can't leave Primordia until after chapter 3 is complete.
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>>376635163

You don't even get overdrive till like chapter 4 or 5, from what I recall. Yeah you can immediately explore but you're gonna get your shit kicked in a LOT more until you unlock overdrive.
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>>376635303
Unfortunately I dunno if it's just my taste or what but save for the browline/halfrim, at least kinda, I don't really like any of the glasses in the game.
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>>376635320
>Electric

literally the worst attack attribute type in the game.
The only things it has going for it are the NightCage skell weapon and the Maximum Voltage ground art
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>>376634863
>>376634987
>>376635024
My bad, have a Telethia for your trouble.

>>376635163
>>376635203
That is true about the mechanics, but in terms of exploration you can literally go to Cauldros from that point if you so wish.
There was even a guy who tried to kill all the tyrants available before actually getting overdrive by acting as a support unit. He got to lvl 60 before overdrive even!
There's loads of stuff you can do, but of course there will be locked content.
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>>376634780
Im pretty sure you can take pics through miiverse, then log into your miiverse on your pc and upload that way
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>>376635402
Not the same guy but that's not true.
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>>376635049
Not him but how are you supposed to get a reliable supply of tickets that early?
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>>376635470
I once used overdrive to beat oskar, the summer squall at like level 31. It took like 10 seconds too, mastermind is the best class before minmaxing meme builds like ether blossom.

On that note, what non-ether-blossom builds do you run for your character? I run an electric-themed psycholaunchers/javelin build. since I use maximum voltage, if I want damage I'll go into the battle with the shitty level 20 starter skell without any armor, that I have kindly rechristened S.S. P-O-S
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>>376635565
I know, I just really like electricity. That said, Maximum Voltage actually doesn' thave an attribute, it inherits the weapon's attribute.
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>>376635402
But you can..

>>376635707
Do squad tasks and the the online squad missions. Not only do you get a shit ton of materials you're also rewarded with tickets and medals at times. Also, Telethia Plume is farmable at 20 or so.
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>>376635676
It's fucking true

Believe me, I tried when I was attempting to get the Busted Skell Weapon sidearm.
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>>376635642
>>376634780
Even simpler: while in game, press the home menu and just open the Internet browser, go to 4chan and make a post, you can attach whatever's on your TV and gamepad screen as an image to your post.
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>>376635845
Squad tasks barely give any tickets at all and telethia destroys the level 20 skell
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>>376635707
chime in on the squad tasks whenever you can. they give ~3-5 tickets every time you do one of that a task wants, and then 20 or 30 or so when the task is completed.
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Is there anything left to do after I craft an Ares?
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>>376635676
>>376635845

I'm tempted to boot up a new save just to show you guys the fucking "edge of map green hexes" that show up when you try.

You can not leave Primordia until getting the annoying Nopon (finishing Chapter 3)
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>>376632078
vadam/vanderkaum is the series's cid
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>>376635917
level 20 skell is garbage, on-foot is superior even without minmaxing until L30 skells become available.
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>>376635917
>telethia destroys the level 20 skell
Who the fuck told you to take a skell? Go on foot like a man!

>>376636056
>until getting the annoying Nopon
Wasn't that chapter 2?
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>>376636019
Kill all Tyrants

Customize a 60 skell to be better than an Ares
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>>376636067
Can't be, he didn't have any equivalents in Saga and not in gears either I think. I haven't played gears though so feel free to correct me on that.

fug I'm running out of xenosaga to post
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>>376626904
They didn't want to create armour models/meshes for non-humanoids. As it is, all the playable characters can share the exact same armour designs, with the only difference being a male/female split.
If they added one or two Nopons to the roster they'd have to design a third appearance for every armour in the game, and it wouldn't be worth it. It was easier for them to just not add the less-human races to the party.
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>>376636223
vanderkaum is the van damn of saga/gears

>played saga but not gears

wat
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>>376636195
>you can't ride the best skell in the game
Bad guys always get the best toys!
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>>376636165
No, chapter 2 is killing the big bug thing and learning about probes
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>>376636195
>Customize a 60 skell to be better than an Ares
Doesn't this just mean "grind for augments and rare gear for another 60 hours"
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>>376621575
The problem with this game is the music in it sounds like licensed music instead of being actual music tailored to the game like in Xenoblade. They literally slapped Sawano's shitty radio station pop songs over cutscenes with shitty Linkin Park-esque battle music. All of the rock music sounds like music from commercial bands young teens love.

Fucking shite. Awful, awful shite. You'd probably like this music if you didn't really like music all that much, but for someone whose taste in music was built up and defined by non-video music, a large majority of the music in X is fucking tacky awful sell-out shite. Whoever likes the music needs better discernment.
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>>376636281
wait is vanderkaum the guy that yells at people on woglinde and crashed ormus cruiser

played them more or less as they released, haven't yet tried to look for a not-100$ copy of gears
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>>376636236
But there's several humanoids that the armor they made could work for that you don't get, like Wrothians, female Prone, Definians.
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>>376636298
I would have loved to see this Vita
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>>376636438
yes
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>>376636458
How hard is it to mod wii u games? Seems doable if the meshes are already there
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Augments are literally fucking useless until you get to the endgame.
Like why would anyone EVER craft the level 1 augs. Oh wow a fucking 5% boost to one stat. As if 5% is ever enough to make a difference regarding ANYTHING in this game.
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>>376629181
> take hope and celica
>make them watch excecution
> affinity goes up
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>>376636413
>a large majority of the music in X is fucking tacky awful sell-out shite

This is misleading, because the bad songs are a minority among the total number of tracks, it just happens to be tracks that get played all the fucking time
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>>376636413
>but for someone whose taste in music was built up and defined by non-video music
Congratulations you're able to be pretentious about music. >>>/mu/
The audio mixing was bad for cutscenes thanks to the localization, in the JP version the voice actors can be heard just fine over the music.
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>>376636413
You're memeing it up again with the infamous stuff. go listen to the things that have been linked in this thread, most of them are excellent examples of why you're wrong. ThemeX/Uncontrollable/Ganglion skell battle notwithstanding.
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>>376636680
>in the JP version the voice actors can be heard just fine over the music.
Well aren't we lucky that we all speak japanese and have a japanese copy of the game
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>>376635707
Just by doing nothing, maybe?

For a grade V augment you need to kill auravises, progens and tenebras, plus some mined ores extremely easy to find right on Primordia.

Tenebras can be found at as low as lvl 1, so you can farm yourself.
Progen wings cost 72 a piece. You need 2 for each augment.
The auravis egg costs 66. You need 2 as well.
The total cost is about 270 tickets. That's a really, really low number. Just by leeching you can get that in like a day.

Bear in mind you don't need much more than 30 or so secconds of overdrive to have it being inifinite with ramjet rifle.
By the time you get that weapon, you probably have enough tickets to make several of those, each boosting your overdrive time by 7 seconds.

But hell, you probably have enough tickets to make an even better augment and save slots at that point in the game.
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>>376625257
Ma-non Ship, easily - those squirrel-voiced motherfuckers initially got on my nerves, then I absolutely fell in love with them, you know? Pretty neat that they're a super-lazy yet perfect Anarchist society with tech literally so good the only reason their ship got damaged is their shields fucked up, otherwise even literally the entire Ganglion force wouldn't have been able to do jack fucking shit to the Ma-non

Also Wir Fliegen, don't give a shit - it's a bummer the instrumental has LOUD BEEPING NOISES to replace the lyrics though
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>>376636617
You can find a bunch of useful augs early on in treasure.

And crafting the ones in the X to XV range aren't that bad for someone in the mid game, and they're pretty strong.
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>>376636978
Can you even craft those in mid-game? You wouldn't have the materials yet.
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>>376636687
Listen to Uncontrollable. Listen to how that guy sings... All dark and edgy like he's in nu-metal band. And that female singer who can't even speak English with vocals that wobble like a fucking chickens neck. Then the dumb fucking Paramore-esque chorus. And the "when I do the smallest things... You get mad"... Fucking shite. It sounds like shitty bands you'd watch on Kerrang or SCUZZ when you were 13-14 thinking it was good rock music but really youre listening to sell-out shitty cookie cutter rock music. Fuck Sawano, he's overrated. Cunt.
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>>376636458
Ga Buihde is basically using a lance as a weapon, which you can also use and the armor isn't all that different from what we have. Even more with Ga Jiarg and other male wrothians.
Definians have their own traits but could be doable, the problem is the device in their back and the headgear. Female prones are easy, but male prones would be hard due to their shoulder size.

Still, if we were getting all those races why not just make a race of Celicas or L's? At least they could expand the backstory like the wrothians. Plus we had a nopon party member, after that everything works, so ma non and orphes (which would be cool) could work as well.
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>>376636961
>Wir Fliegen
Mah ningen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylu7dpn76ss
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>>376637114
Did you even read my fucking post? my point was that your statement is objectively false since not all the music is like that, referenced the proof of music linked in here, specifically mentioned that uncontrollable wasn't what I was talking about, and then here you are talking about that and nothing else.

You know what? now I think you did read my post, and you're just a baiting memer.
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>>376636654
This anon speaks the truth.
Not only the bad songs play in areas you'll be spending a lot of time in, but it also plays on the earlier areas, namely NLA and Primordia.
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>>376637250
Exactly how it sounds!
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>>376637114
>>376637323
I agree with you though, in that overall Sawano is overrated. most of his stuff is super samey, and it's even more shameful after this game proved that he can do real music, but doesn't.
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>>376621575
The flying potatoe can kill thyself it's so fucking annoying
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>>376629393
The characters were good. Not on the level of XBC's party members, but they're possibly the best RPG main cast ever. The side characters were universally better than XBC's though.
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>>376628140
this
>Alexa
>HB
>Murderess
i imagine them kinda all hating eachother and Alexa keeping the team sane
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>>376637449
If you think about it Sawano is not really overrated or even at fault in this case.
I mean, that's the type of music he composes, he's known for that. If anything the fault lies in the people who wanted music like that to be in the game. He basically did what he knows and what he's known for.

Also, they couldn't ask Ace+ because they were busy at the time.
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>>376629924
https://exhentai.org/g/893049/667c501639/
Full artbook.
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>>376637649
well yeah I doubt sawano consiously chooses to do the same stuff. I do feel bad for him, as much talent as he has he probably realizes that his shit's getting old and wants to move on. I see self-sufficient artists like knife party doing that all the time.

about Ace+, interesting. What about kajiura or mitsuda?
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>>376637105
Matters on the aug.
A few are both really useful and have easy to find material requirement, like Slayer.MECHANOID for skells for instance only takes an ore and Standard Cranks, which drop from all sorts of low level Puge.
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>>376637802
>What about kajiura or mitsuda?
No idea about those. The only info I had was the one I just gave you. Sorry.
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>>376637834
humanoid slayers are even easier, they require broken belts which drop from prone enemies. i.e. the dumbshits that are constantly picking fights with you.
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>>376630369
you are just a man with taste thats all
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>>376637951
damn. not too bad though; honestly we could probably figure out for ourselves by looking at their discographies and estimating the production periods for the works they were involved in, to see at least if they were busy.
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>>376628043
To fight:
Elma
Alexa
Lin

To fuck around, any combination of:
Celica
Mia
Irina
Hope
And sometimes L or Lin
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>>376637721
Sweet
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How does one game have so many worst girls?
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I think it would've been a bit cooler if Cross wasn't THE main character, and that they swapped around a bit. There's lots of characters and they work in their own divisions, so it'd be a nice way to see other characters from the outside and involve humanity as a whole in their rebuilding process.

Plus, from the outside, Elma's little super-group can look really sketchy. She and Cross are thought of as superhumanly perfect, and she happens to be a xeno while Cross could arguably be a J-Body, and she's practically adopted a cute, impressionable prodigy. Having Cross and Elma do like 80%+ of the work of babysitting humanity is a weird but interesting implication.
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>>376638174
I want to fuck around with Elma!
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>>376638070
A shared interest is a shared culture, fine man.

>>376638093
True, even if they didn't create anything they could be supervising some progress somewhere. It's not hard to have a project on hands for them.

>We could have had a mecha maid suit
The unused assets in the artbook just make me want a XCX sequel even more. Bosses, world, mechs, characters... it's all here
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>>376621575
Because a lot of those characters were originally DLC. It's just hard to remember because all of the DLC was included in the base game in the localization.
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>>376636890
You're saying it's the music's fault for being blasted over custscenes when that was entirely the fault of some incompetents state-side, and had nothing to do with the music as originally implemented.
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>>376624946
It triggers me when Lin acknowledges leveling up.
Like how does she know what that is
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>"You Shall Be As Gods" is the password Elma uses near the end
>Xenogears (the mech) is in World of Final Fantasy as a summon

IT'S COMING BACK IN A BIG WAY, GUYS!

Also, was I the only one really let down by XCX? I really wish it didn't try to be this pseudo-MMO thing and instead focused on a more solid story. I only really got into it when you made it to the Lifehold and shit STARTED POPPING THAT BIOWEAPON PROGRAM WAS SO FUCKING COOL
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>>376638760
I don't even care.
Lin grew so much on me that I genuinely find amusing when she says "I think even me cooking got better!"
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>>376638987
>"I think even me cooking got better!"

OI TINK EVE ME COOKIN GIT BETTA
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>>376638987
>>376639049
If not for lalafels Lin would probably be the most beloved potato on /v/. Despite all the criticism early on most people see her on a good note now. Still a potato though, the 3D model doesn't do the official art justice.
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>>376639049
I fucking swear she sounds like Tails from Sonic Heroes saying "Level up"
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>>376639402
>ARMS
The true sequel was right in front of us the whole time!
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>>376621575
>jrpg
>reee every character has daddy issues with muh emo main character

>jrpg
>reee every character doesn't have daddy issues with no emo main character
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>>376639738
The characters do have daddy issues
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>>376639402
I love her, but I think the biggest problem with her design is her eyes. The irises, more specificaly.
In general, characters in X have way too big irises, but Lin takes the cake even among them.

Initialy I though she was going to be the uguu~kawaii desu token character, but I was pleasantly surprised to see how cheeky she ended up being.
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>>376639402
Yeah, she can be a cutie
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>>376639826
>I though she was going to be the uguu~kawaii desu token character,
Isn't that kind of what she is?
I dunno, I don't watch much anime.
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>>376621575
Oh look the game that I really enjoyed that had the most potential, completely thrown away to cater to shitty conservative jrpg fanbase
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>>376638893
No you are part of the vocal majority. Now fuck off and enjoy your future shitty Tales rip off.
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>>376640012
what did he mean by this?
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>>376639785
which ones?
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>>376639990
Are you kidding me? She's ironic all the time, plays jokes, gets excited about mechs and engineering...

She'd almost be a tomboy if not for her sweet and caring nature at times, her passion for cooking and her general looks.
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>>376640421
Frye, Phog, Hope, and Mia
Irina and Lao also have "muh family" issues
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>>376640242
Probably salty that Xenoblade got a sequel despite having good closure instead of X with its cliffhanger ending, understandably so. I still hold hope that Monolith will juggle between Xenobalde and X sequels.
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>>376621575
%triforce
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>>376640601
I wouldn't say Mia had daddy issues.
She's like Lin, where that's a source of motivation and whatnot, but not much beyond that.
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https://youtu.be/AaRkAk50Nno?list=PLa0kdYaWleuSQ22y1hT5Ax4Oa1GkYS1vJ
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>>376621575
Elma is the best, fuck you.
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How well does this game play with the Wii U Pro controller vs the gamepad?
Will I be missing out on neat features on the touch screen? My gamepad charging cable is busted.
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>>376641349
Having the map on your controller and using it to easily rearrange probes and fast travel is a very neat feature but not a vital one. I haven't played it on a pro controller myself, but I don't think there'd be any major issues with it.
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>>376641349
you need the gamepad because you don't earn money by loot, instead by optimizing your probe network. This can only be done in the gamepad. If nintendo had given an option to display gamepad screen on tv, you can do with the Wii U pro-controller.
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>>376641316
She's the worst
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>>376621575

Looking back at X, the world in it is pretty damn impressive. I want to feel that amazement again. Hopefully X2 delivers, though it'll probably give similar feelings to the original than X.
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>>376631875

Is there a download for this? I seem to have a lower quality version.
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>>376641631
>I want to feel that amazement again
Personally, I felt that amazement again while playing Breath of the Wild. I'm all for Nintendo continuing making open world games as long as Monolith helps them with world design
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>>376641349
This is probably the game where the pad is most useful. And I mean useful, not mandatory for the sake of it.

Just order another cable. You'll still be scraping the paint on the surface of the wrapping of the content until it arrives.
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>>376641736
really? I played Breath of the Wild after X and felt the exact opposite.
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>>376641570
Can't you do that by pressing -?
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>>376641736

Zelda had an entirely different feeling though. It was a lonely adventure.

X had a feeling of comradery that ran throughout similar to the original but at a much greater scale.
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>>376641720
Check sadpanda.
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>>376621575
Why are all the characters in this game so fucking ugly?
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Lyn was good if only for the fact you could set her up with near instant 3k TP gain so she can revive your other two suicidal party members.

Doesn't help I went up the mastermind tree, you can just stall the fuck out any fight that doesn't instant kill you till you win. Death was never an option.
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>>376641883
nope.

you can play one TV only with no gamepad
gampad only
or TV + gamepad

but gamepad functions will not be mapped to TV, unless you have cemu
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>>376642237
Its because the game has inconsistent lighting. In some scenes Elma looks like a perfect sex goddess and in others (like pic related) like a mongoloid potato made of jelly.
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>>376621575
What's up with /v/ today? An XCX thread reaching almost 400 posts and with next to no shitposting? Is there still hope for this board?
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>>376642454
>perfect sex goddess

ok buddy, sure

looks like a chinese knock off plastic doll to me, fully equipped with factory defects

and then you have shit like >>376626471

people were paid to make this? The nigger even has Ted Cruz eyes. I'd want my money back.
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>>376642454
I don't know if it's ambient occlusion, but in daytime and night outside NLA, character models look fine.

But inside NLA at nightime, character models looks like absolute shit, like a wii game.
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>>376641349
I play with the wiiU pro controller and use the gampad like a tablet
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>>376639826
The 3D models follow the character art perfectly, but that's the real issue, while the drawing itself looks fine it doesn't translate well into 3D.
See pic related for comparison, specially the front view.
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>>376639826
>>376643376
Posted the wrong pic, it was the page after that one. Pic related is correct now.
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>>376643376
I'm a little mad that shirt design didn't make it into the game
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>>376643505
Even then, in game you can BARELY see the withe of her eyes.
It's liukely an issue with the translation between the 2d and 3d. yeah.
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>>376643376
this is true. some of the first xenosaga's models were downright horrifying; 2d style just doesn't translate well into 3d models. to get 3d to look good the most anime you can go is a hybridized sort of design that's only lightly stylized.
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>>376643550
There are a lot of casual outfits that appear in the art book that look fucking great, but given the limitations (like the way that shirt works) I guess we should count ourselves lucky for all the shit that did make it into the final product.
I do believe we have far too many tank tops though. Tank top master would be proud.

>>376643658
Works well in line, does not work well in model. But at least she wasn't born a potato, she looks kinda cute in those designs.
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>>376643505
if these drawing had inclusion of light and shadows incorporated it would be more close to the 3D model but it was drawn 2D, so it would only work well cell shaded. I'm not a huge fan of cell shaded so I don't like XC2's models
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>>376621575
Thats what happens when you make most of the game optional, force a create a character lead and have a troubled development preventing you from finishing your story. Seriously fuck XCX story.
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>>376643658
>>376643772
>>376643943
This is something that has been consistent with the Xeno series overall. While I don't like much of what I've seen from Xenoblade 2 body designs I do think they are going in the right direction when they tried to approach a not so realistic style. I would like to see a style similar to XCX but with the textures/shading of Xeno 2.

Zelda did it through trial and error, so I think Xeno can get there as well.
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>>376644254
Oh god I didn't mean to post this meme fuck's shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IvvDVQaxIQ
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>>376627003
Probably as likely as XCX tie ins, a bunch of random references that have no story follow up that you keep expecting until the game ends abruptly and find out you've played the 43rd game in the ever-ending planned series for it.
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I didn't want it to end.
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>>376644094
I really loved XCX's take on 3D. It wasn't 100% realistic like wrpgs, but had this sci-fi fantascy vive to it. Reminds me of Kamen Rider/Super Sentai.
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>>376644094
If they're going for something more realistic, I think they've aleady hit the spot with XC.
I didn't follow Monolith before the Xenoblade seires, but it seems to me that X looks more like what they used to do back in the Saga series.

It still looks fucking great imo, but that issue with the eyes is a bit distracting.
Even the potato faces don't bother me too much, provided they don't try to open their mouths wide.
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>>376643819
I suppose so. reminds me of the medium orphean armor for females, there's a tendril of the leaf/foil armor that droops down to near the belt level, and for some weird reason the lower nodes of the mesh are painted to the pelvis animation rig rather than the torso one, causing it to twist in weird ways when the wearer twists at her waist (such as when sprinting, or turning to look at something without adjusting her footing)

animation is hard yo, why can't we just work on better/easier physics engines
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>>376644856
Because Nintendo game Monolith soft about as much money as CD Project Red had before Witcher became popular.
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>>376644707
yeah the visual character designs look a lot more like in xenosaga 1 or 3. people shit on 2's more grounded designs, but I think they looked better than the first game's if a little weird.

Barring their eyes being too far apart, though, I would have to agree that xenosaga 3 is the series' pinnacle in character appearance so far.
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>>376644856
>animation is hard yo, why can't we just work on better/easier physics engines
Because those are not the main focus of these games. I did like the physics of X because even though they were kinda whacky they did work for the type of gameplay they intended. Except for jumping inside caves to reach certain pillars... adjusting your speed and trying not to roll is fucked up sometimes, specially if the floor is full of lava.
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>>376645146
no, I mean using physics engines to make loose clothing easier/more feasible. Also hair/fatty tissues, those don't mesh well with animation either.
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>That sudden, cryptic voice-acted cutscene at the end of Yelv's affinity quests
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>>376644651
Yeah many of the designs from alien manufacturers were great. I'll forever be assmad that we didn't get Factory 1.21 armor
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>>376645471
That would be even more complicated due to how armors work in the game. They have to fit all the characters otherwise each piece has to be designed independently
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>>376645475
>99% of Xenoblade X players never did this, of that 99% didn't understood the reference to Xenosaga Ziggy
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>>376645724
?

I don't remember anything about ziggy having fake memories
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>>376645475
>>376645724
That and all the people who missed pic related.
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>>376645683
Yes and no. physics, or at least the havok engine based on my familiarity with skyrim modding, works by using virtual objects as handles for for applying physics calculations for the sake of deforming the nodes of the clothing (or body, since I mentioned skyrim) mesh in question. If these object definitions can be scaled in the same manner as the meshes themselves, there shouldn't be any problem.

I believe this is even the case; the breast physics in the game apply to all of the busts even though the game has a slider for different sizes (even if it is purely internal in the NA localization)
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I have yet to play XCX or BoTW but I intend to play one after the other now that I have a few weeks of free time.

Considering XCX appeals to me many times more than XC which I still loved, and BoTW looks like it has amazingly fun and funny combat and exploration: which one should I play first to get the least general disappointment from the next?
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>>376646420
It depends... What are you searching for in those games? what do you like about them?
They can both be disappointing or the best thing you'll ever play.

>>376646178
I see, so it comes to the engine in the end. Well, while I'm sure it could be done I'm betting those things won't work like that for some time. Their character modeling team isn't the best at humans but they do excel in monsters and world building. If they happen to use the part of the engine that was used in BotW (since they worked together on that as well) I think it can be done as the clothing physics of BotW, while all adapted to the same model, had a pretty good physics engine. Seeing as the world physics won't be as important in Xeno 2 as they were in BotW I don't see why they shouldn't take a bit of their time to polish up a bit of that clothing engine into the armors themselves.

We'll see. I think they won't do it yet, but it's possible in the way you mentioned.
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>>376646420
>few weeks
Son, I have bad news for you...
And by bad news I kinda mean good news.
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>>376646420
They don't feel anything like each other even in exploration. There's no reason you can't do both at once either due to both having relatively compartmentalized doses of narrative.
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>>376646883
Hopefully. have you seen the rigging on the ankle-length skirts in skyrim? it's awful, anything longer than a microskirt clips with itself even if the character brings their legs together, much less crosses them. between that and sleeves, vidya's fashion game would step up immensely if physics engines were cheaper/easier to deploy in armor and clothing meshes.
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>>376646420
XCX then BotW. Going from action to MMO combat is awful.
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>>376647347
I'd say it's worse the other way around. Zelda's combat system has fewer options under player control.
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>Any side quest involving the water purification plant

I think the only reason I want XCX2 is for more of the side stuff.
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>>376646889
I haven't played BoTW and can't speak to it, but yeah if you end up liking XCX as much as you think you will you will spend a long time with it.
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>>376647638
Gives you way more options to tackle any group of enemies than XCX.
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>>376646420
You'll reach about 20% of one of those games in a few weeks.
They are worth investing your time into them but they do need a lot of time to be invested in.
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>>376647659
yeah the sidequests are the best, and random dialouge as well. One of the camp twins eventually says something that confirms that a japanese and french lifehold at least made it to mira, which really lends to my theory of the next game picking up at neotokyo.

>when you saw the concept art of neotokyo and realized it was a scaled-down kukai dome
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>>376647659
>"We wanna build things there but indigens wont let us"
>Alright sure
>Help them out
>"Gee thanks, now we can build things there!"
>Things ARE built there and stay there for the rest of the game.

Quality
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>>376647912
(You)
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>>376647659
>>376647959
>the presidential election side quest
I was not expecting to laugh, but I wasn't really expecting to laugh even harder during the second part of that quest,
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>>376621575
Didn't matter that much to me once I put Lyn in jeans and a swimsuit top.
She's cute, has a nice ass and find her lasting longer in battle than Elma.
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>>376648058
XCX
>Bring X, Y, or Z character that don't really matter because MC is broken compared to them
>Infinite overdrive or skell cheese
>Playing the game without cheese is just outfitting your equipment with different stuff

BotW
>Go in guns blazing
>or stealthy
>or attack from above
>Use the enviroment
>etc.
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>>376648198
oh are you talking about the one where some orphean gets it, as orpheans are wont to do, and tries to create a parliament of representatives from the alien races?

On that note, the alien races coming in was done so right. Seeing a prone and a wrothian standing guard at a gate on the ma-non ship is satisfying as fuck, and all the throngs of dancing and mingling aliens in the city proper
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>>376648441
yes and no. XCX had a lot of choice, but it was all in the build so at the end of the day it all funneled into cheesing for the same combo over and over again. I stand by my statement that mechanics like soul voice and especially how soul voices were your only healing would have made the combat more varied if you could switch control mid-battle. switching over to a nother character to pick up on a soul voice you'd just sent out would be the raddest shit, if you had the right soul voice and the right art you could get some hella healing.
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>>376648441
Acting deliberately retarded only highlights that you're just here to shitpost.
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Anyone have any advice to get good?
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>>376648882
Or maybe that's just my genuine opinion? It's not like I hate XCX or anything, otherwise I wouldn't have 100+ hours on it.
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>>376639402
>>376639826
>couldn't put her in best costume
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>>376648464
Yeah, it was the quest with an orphean. That second part with the nopon when all seemed to be solved after taking care of the manons. The reaction was priceless, specially when you consider that orphes are totally rational and stuff.

>>376648441
While your argument about XCX isn't wrong I would say that it's also very incomplete. XCX offers you the chance to play the game as any class and complete the game with whatever build you choose. Yes, there are some meme builds which are quite famous and easy to do, still, you can choose any other build and since the game is well balanced, you can do the exact same content with whatever you chose. There are people who completed the game and did post game content while mantaining a support role, letting the horrible AI actually do the killing.
It takes time and there is a lot to do and understand, but I don't think I know a game with so many customization options that are all equally viable the way XCX does. If you fuck up in this game it's all due to lack of preparation.

Zelda is more agile in terms of approach, but you can take care of any enemy easily and even without proper equipment it's even easier to cheese the enemies themeselves.

One is about preparation, the other is about wits.
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>>376649197
Material to make said costume almost isn't worth trying for me
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>>376649018
Do you have a weapon or attack style preference?
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>>376649018
i need tips too, mostly on leveling because i've hit a roadblock now
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>>376625257
Even without the lyrics it still sounds like some shitty christian rock, XCXfags have no taste
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>>376649386
I actually found a great grinding area in Oblivia, though it's for after you get a Skell. Preferably a heavy one with sniper.

>>376649373
Not really. Though honestly I was more talking about the augments and crafting stuff. Guess I should have been specific.
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>>376649724
Also the grinding works more for anyone you wanna get to the 30 lvl range quickly
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>>376649018
for xcx? I don't know what part of the game you're talking, but if it's post game I say get your TP capacity up to 4 or 5k and get 2 arts: gain TP XX augments. This makes it so you get 400 tp every single time you unleash an art, and reduces the cost of auras and potential arts to 600.

What's important here is that even if you are already in overdrive you can click the overdrive symbol on the art palette to expend another 3,000 tp and add 20 more seconds to the clock. if you get the overdrive counter up to max, maintaining infinite overdrive will eventually maintain itself without this as well as giving very hefty bonuses to damage taken/given.

to farm the augments without needing reward tickets, I suggest these:

Sandsprint cavity in sylvalum for the aeviter wings
Aaroy plain in oblivia and the region northeast of it, duiring the day farm vigents or viragos or whichever spawn their for the rock scalps.
For the mortifole feathers, fast travel to FN212, on foot. It's just south of the rim around Go-Rha the rusemaster. jump up and target the top appendeges of each mortifole and break it, and kill them one by one. sounds tedious but makes the mortifole feathers the fastest part of the grind.

Since I'm a stickler for giving credit, most of the farming tips I took from the work of a guy from the post-release threads who went by the handle "Vanaris"
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>>376629309
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>>376649287
Yeah I'm glad someone at the studio looked at the orphe's characterization and said "let's make a sidequest where an orphe is surrounded by idiots", the reaction really was priceless.
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>>376649724
Im level 36 and chapter 9 kicks my ass hard and i spend most of my money to get skells for the girls. I can go up against level 40 or so mobs to grind xp but if they're in groups im fucked.
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>>376625362
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>>376649386
The most general tip I can give is that up until level 50 or so the L30 skell can consistently kill mobs 10 levels or so higher than you privided they aren't much bigger than the skell itself. Higher even if the mobs are bout your size on foot.
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>>376649386
>>376649724
No need to grind. For farming the easier way to get things done is to get your armor and weapon to synergize correctly.
Also pay close attention to your passive skills and art descriptions. While some arts have specific elements others rely on the weapons you are using for added effect.

An easy way to cheese things, in terms of a roadblock is to get more TP and HP, it's quite easy to make augments for both and armor with them is very frequent. Before a boss simply raise your TP to max so you can easily start an overdrive sequence. Later on, if you want to rely on infinite overdrive try to spend some time to get Arts Gain TP XX as well as arts that expand your TP when used. This is one of the reasons why the LS build is so common as it comes with good damage arts that also build TP as they are used even without augments.

In the endgame you should invest in either reflect augments and **** attack up XX augments. I don't specifiy simply because it's up to you. You can also use potential up XX as it increases the damage of TP arts multiplicatively.

Here's an example of an extremely easy to do build that practically kills everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-WvRuD4C8

Note how the augments aren't really anything special. Also not how the battle starts mainly with buffs and debuffs. It's all up to the boss in question later on but somethings work fine for everyone.
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>>376649197
Not to sound like an apologist, but I preffer the leotard version, amd I think that wasn't censored, right?

I don't even think most of the censored shit looks bad on her, but on an ideal world there should be a toggleable option inside a menu, like with Elma.
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>>376650183
>chapter 9 kicks my ass hard
This is the one where you fight the lion guy and 5 others at the same time IIRC right?
If so I had that same problem. I found adding another person helped but not by much. Also equip yourself with augments for stun as I found that happening to me a lot more than often, but first of all try to take out the weaker soldiers first.
After that you'll go into a Skell fight, so make sure everyone's at a level where you can give them one.
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>>376650394
Normally im not the kind of guy who exploits things in vidya to progress but i might test it out to see just how good it is, and maybe use it only when things go down the shitter like now.
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>>376645076
>Barring their eyes being too far apart

That's their design anon. The modellers didn't slip up and make their eyes too far apart. It literally just how the art style is.
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>>376650520
Both bunny outfits are changed for her.
Bikini looks like some puffy pants and a long black and white top while the leotard looks like a fancier/one-piece swimsuit version of the bikini.
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>>376650394
>>376649917
Thanks for the tips
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>>376650653
Im strong enough for the first fight, but the skell part is hell, like literal hell because it rains fucking fire from the sky, needless to say our skells get wrecked and later our characters. So yeah, i do need to do something to surpass that.
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>>376626469
It's a sad world.
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>>376650183
Ah, that'd explain it. chapter 9 was designed on the assumption that you'd focus on skells after getting them and neglect on-foot strategy/equipment so it's a common hang-up.

That's not to say you actually neglected all that, but this reply would be pointless if I didn't try to help so here we go. I don't remember the battle too well but I recall one of the hardest parts being ga buidhe's decoy. at least I think that was chapter 9, may have been the six stars affinity mission. Whatever, incase it is you want to hit her/them as many times as quickly as possible to dispel the decoys; how much damage they'd do is irrelevant since you're trying to rack up hit count. The best way to do this is to keep your party members alive as long as possible to have 4 people piling hits in at once.

The best way to keep em alive, regardless of whether the decoy's a problem on ch9 or not, I'd say is candid&credible gear I think? If the photonsabers/javelins from six stars are any indication they rely heavily on thermal and electrical attack. Thermal defense is hard without augments since if you're doing chapter 9 you definitely don't have access to six stars armor. In vein of that I say C&C, since it has electric resist as well as higher armor rating and lower grav penalty than other armor lines. Be aware though, if I'm wrong and they use beam, a full set of c&c gear will run you a -25 on beam so not good.
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>>376650707
I posted a case of an extreme exploit, but that's really how the game works as that is exactly what the enemies are and will be using against you.

For early game I would recommend making it so you can stun and topple yourself as your party members can get easily incapacitated. Later try to pick an element, build upon it with your sills and arts and add a null reflect element so you won't insta kill yourself by an enemie's passive ability. Also pay attention to your own soul voices and your party member's as well. It will help you decide better which type of arts you'll want to see more of in your set.
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>>376650878
You can use some augments to counter the weather but you should also focus un AoE attacks. Also, try to get a better skell. Invest on them, it's not hard and it's better on the long run, later when you can get lvl 50 skells simply pass the 30 ones to other chars or simply remove the weapons and sell them. Seriously, skells are made to be used like that until you get the end game ones as you can't really farm for the appropriate skell gear yet
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>>376650878
If the fire rain is from a weather pattern called "brimstone rain" (with an icon of, y'know, falling fire in the weather readout), craft brimstone rain screen augments for your skells. They're dirt cheap to make because they're usually useless.
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>They recorded different dialogue for every choice
>You'll never be able to hear it all in one playthough
>only one save.
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>>376650781
Well I was specifically critiquing the art direction so.

Yeah, I get that all anime is kind of like that, but it was noticable in XSIII.
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>>376650993
>>376651000
To be honest i wasnt actually optimizing my way through the game, i was simply getting better gear whenever i could, small augment upgrades mostly on my character and level up skills and arts. I picked duelist and now and when i get enough TP i go offensive stance, burning slash and incendiary edge and it works quite well, so i guess if i did more optimization it would be twice as good yes?
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>>376626518
>quests revolving around a party member where new things happen and more of their personality and morality are revealed
>backstory

What did he mean by this
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>>376651378
...How do you get that UI element? I've never seen it
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>>376627773
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>>376651548
What UI element? You mean the affinity chart upgrade that pops up automatically all the time?
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>>376651378
I believe you can have another save file through another account on the same console, like with BotW.

>>376651476
Yes, try to look up your skill descriptions and you'll how you can make the most of them. With duelist you can almost do the meme build since you have access to longswords, so the TP part is there. Still, on a more basic scale I will simply tell you that skills like tornado blade which get tp when you have an aura active get said TP per hit, meaning that if you hit more than one enemy you'll get even more points. On the note of the class, once you have mastered it (reached the top lvl of the class) you can change class and use the weapons of any other class that you mastered. Meaning that you can easily level up other classes and hunt for skills while using the set and arts from the masterd class.
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What sucks about online being dead is that the people who played endlessly aren't playing anymore so you can't just pick up a receding rust that has good stats
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>>376651749
I've literally never seen those, and I'm running out of sidequests to do
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>>376651895
I also havent settled for a 4th party member yet, i've done some affinity missions but im not sure which one i'd have join me probably yet another girl but for waifu material So anyway, the trick is to build near infinite TP and just spam arts?
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I keep getting distractedly from this game, but I'll be once again trying to do a play through.

Is everyclass actually viable or better do I HAVE to do ghostwalk bs to do the extra content?

I know there are some stupid choice you need to make (I.E. the blue wire on the helicopter), anyone got a list of those?

Thanks
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>>376651939
Why are they a problem? Just grab longsword users for your party, change your class to one that uses longswords, actually use them, and farm the boss.
Yes, it does affect the drop pool.
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>>376652137
How could you have not seen Affinity Links before? Are you somehow skipping everything or playing a bugged stolen copy?
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>>376652376
nope, hardcopy bought in a physical store. don't skip stuff either.
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>>376652203
It's more about rythm. At some point you will get TP out of your ass so what you really need to do is keep yourself alive.
Ghostwalker+Offensive stance works very well because while one gives you attack boost in exchange for defense, the other makes you invulnerable to a set number of attacks for a period of time.

Also, another thing to have in mind is how overdrive works in terms of colours. It's very important to memorize the combos otherwise you'll just be wasting TP. You can make do with 4000 TP if you know what you are doing and have the right setup.
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>>376652295
does actually equipping a weapon affect a drop pool as well as switching class? I've never heard that
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>>376652567
I see, im guessing that by adjusting soul voices improves that too right?
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>>376652221
Every class is viable. You simply have to learn how to make the most out of them and which elements you need to focus on. Ghostwalker is common because it's piss easy to do.

>>376652623
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/701151-xenoblade-chronicles-x/73335623

>For example, if I bring Elma, Lin and Irina in my party, I'll see Dual Guns, Dual Swords, Gatling Guns, Shields, Assault Rifles and Knives more often than other kind of weapons.

>Your class' default weapons will also get added into the pool of weapons you'll get frequently.
For instance, if I wanted Dual Guns for my Blossom Dance build, I'd change my class to Commando, Winged Viper or Full Metal Jaguar, since those classes use Dual Guns (along with Dual Swords).
>After that, I'll go and recruit Elma, Phog and Celica, so I can have 4 party members (required to reach 100% Treasure Sensor just by wearing Candid & Credible's gear) that use Dual Guns

It's rather well explained in this post but the game won't tell you that. Other weapons will still drop but this increases the rate of the weapons you want.
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>>376652295
You're an idiot because it doesn't matter for Receding Rust, it's just tedious to grind and get even one with 2 good abilities.
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>>376652706
Yes, though it's harded to adjust. I've done fine without changing soul voices (because I'm a scrub who forgot they existed) but they are a key aspect in mantaining yourself and your allies alive. The right set of soul voices with the right allies (theirs can't be changed) can boost your performance quite a bit. It's just harder to use.
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>>376652706
>>376652567
>>376652203
>>376651895
>>376651476

The easiest way to permanently ruin all fun with this game is to read anything about "optimization" online. Don't be retarded like the guy telling you "what to do" here. Ignore everything he says and find your own way to play, or you'll quickly find yourself playing in the exact same broken way every other retard does, cheesing every battle and having zero challenge aka fun.
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>>376652949
No, it does matter since you can actually NOT get the weapon and instead just go home with a reflect augment.
Just save beforehand and farm it. Lugalbanda can be farmed with stuff bought from the shop and no augments. There are worse things in the game to look out for. What would even online people do for you? Give you free Treasure Sensors XX? Or are you hoping to get a treasure deal out of them?

If it's the later I seriously suggest you start farming.
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>>376653138
>understanding the game is cheesing it
Ok.
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>>376653138
Which is why i havent already done some crazy broken build. Like i said i've only done basic grinding and upgrades, is just that this part throws me down and i wanna progress but i guess it wouldnt hurt if i took advantage a couple of things.
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>>376627476
They knew EXACTLY what they were doing with the shading on those legs. Bet some forever alone dev spent weeks of his life getting those knee dimples to look ALAP (as lewd as possible). Japs know where to put their budget.

Press F to pay respects.
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>>376653317
Online people who are farming for the perfect rust dump everything that's not perfect. meaning you could still get damn good rusts and not have to go through the tedium of farming Lugalbanda.

Going to tell me getting a weapon attack power up and Ultrafauna attack up RR from a TD is a bad thing?
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>>376654239
No. I was mostly surprised because in all my hours of play I never got a treasure deal that was a RR.
Best TD I ever got was a diskbomb but it was also complete crap.
Hence why I was telling you it would be better to just farm rather than wait for it to fall from the sky.
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>TW772: Trinn
Hot damn
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>>376654239
I know what you mean, but >>376654869 is right.
You'll mostly get shit skell parts from treasure deals and the most experienced players usually farm the sphinxes for other kinds of weapons. LS is common but everyone and their mothers already has one, also in team play against nemesis machine guns outperform ls and in solo play, rayguns are also better.
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>>376654869
While it's worthless now due to the game being dead, you just needed to keep hoping squads until you find someone Treasure Dealing end game gear by the fist full. Favorite them, and more than likely they know other people doing the same thing and it snowballs.

You get nice weapons like this from Treasure Deals.
Yes, it's bad for min maxing builds, but that doesn't mean it's not neat to have duel guns that actually act like guns
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>>376629636
>only 420
lol
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>>376651602
Glad to know I'm not the only one who dressed Hope in the sluttiest outfit I could find.

Those tits got me through many of the game's slower points
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>>376655234
Aside from Lugalbanda being a bore to farm, getting any other kind of weapon is really easy due to sphinxes. Seriously, I have given away the very weapon you are showing because I had too much of it. You can get one or more of those per ingame day, which is the time when the sphinx respawns at beast's lair.

Lugalbanda is just for that specific drop, which is a pain, but for everything that is not specific, the sphinx is your best deal.
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Any chance of this being ported to the Switch?
I'm afraid that jumping into the game this late will render online play nonexistent.
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>>376655271
>Only 1100
Fucking causal
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>>376655525
Zero

point

zero


I still laugh at the 'leakers' claiming the game MS was working on was a XBCX port for the switch when it was actually XBC2. Them getting blown the fuck out almost was as good as the game being announced
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>>376655741
Okay, thanks. I have no issue getting it on the Wii U then. Better to get it and have fun than wait for something that may never happen.
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>>376655921
Yeah, online isn't totally dead and hacking only ruins things if you want to do time trial stuff. So it's worth getting into. Double so because the online parts REALLY help with grinding materials.

Make a new thread, or let this die?
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>>376653395

If the game doesn't challenge you when you play it a certain way, you are a retard if you still play it that way.
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