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Have you already pre-ordered Sen III?
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i will when it comes up on steam
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I got to the final chapter in 3rd. Where's Star Door 15?
Final dungeon would a plausible place but the game tells me I can't get from there after going in. If I can't come back I can't go to Star Door 14 which needs other doors open.

I'm probably assuming something wrong here, anyone care to spoonfeed?
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Don't girls usually hit puberty before 16?
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>>376597664
Not anime girls
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>>376597253

Talk to Celeste in the garden and she'll open up a little bonus area. Star Door 15 is at the bottom.
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>>376598323
Oooh. Well thanks.
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>>376596673
no noel no buy
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>trivia game
More like memorization trial and error game.
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Is there some trick to beating these arch devils?
They're pretty tough.
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>>376596740
Courtesy of Nippon Ichi Software America©!
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>>376599278
Are you saying you don't remember the exact lyrics of Olivier's song in FC?
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>28 year old with a 16 year old girlfriend
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>>376599664
>implying agate isn't fucking a cougar while tita is jelly as fuck and he's still oblivious
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>>376599590
I think you can slow them. Not much else to my knowledge.
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>>376596673
>Tita's back
>No pantyhose

I bet Towa did this.
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>>376599590
Spam dark matter, preferably EX
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>>376596673
Anything to protect Tita's smile, so yes.

Will pre-order the Kiseki Box from Falcom store next week though.
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>>376597757
Not even 40 year old anime house wives have hit puberty yet.
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>>376600060
>Kiseki Box
I'm thinking about getting it, but I'm not sure I want to pay an extra 1400 japanese shekels for an artbook and a bunch of useless stuff.
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>>376599278
>not being autistic
That was my favorite part of the entire game.

>>376599590
Don't encounter them, really. Come back later when you're not forced to waste a slot on a brainless bimbo.
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>>376600343
Tita is not a bimbo!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydu3N3EZl5A
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>>376600387
Go to bed Agate, you'll die if you keep shouting like that.
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>with a sword that big, agate must have a micropenis
>perfect for tita's lolihole
What did Joshua mean by this?
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>>376600910
It isn't healthy to project, anon.
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>reading the Salt Pale story
By the Aidios how horrifying.
Makes sense that the Northern Jaegers would be so desperate.
Weissman was a clergyman, huh.
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>>376601302
Sara lived through that shit didn't she? It would explain some of the drinking.
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>>376596673
Since it's PS4, I prefer digital. I haven't seen the digital pre-order for it so far, so not yet.
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So anyone happen to remember who the NPC Kevin was talking about in the airship opening that seemed familiar to him? The one going into a panic attack thinking the ship is gonna fall.

Almost makes me want to play through the games again and make a list of NPCs with descriptions of their story arcs.
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Who do I bring to nightmare Arena for special rewards except Anal Ace?
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>people complain about the card game
>it's easy
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>>376601689
>the angels in 3rd's final dungeon have the same headpiece duvalie has
neat, but what does it mean
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>play FC on PSP
>play SC on Vita
>forced to play 3rd on PC which feels completely unnatural and uncomfortable
Fuck this gay Earth
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>>376601924
Plug your computer into your tv and use a controller. Feels fucking great for me.
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>>376601924
I'm broadcasting it to my tablet and playing with a bluetooth controller.
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>>376601779
>filename
the one and only time i will praise someone for cheating, godspeed anon
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>>376601986
Somehow didn't consider this. Thanks anon.

>>376602045
That sounds like it has good potential
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>>376601121
>tfw actually have an 8.5 inch cock
>tfw would use butter knife in a jrpg
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>>376602084
Thanks man.
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>>376601793
Duvalie is a pure angel.
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>>376602257
>Got a two-pronged dick
>Dual swords
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>>376601302
Orphaned by the salt
Turned into a salt

Weissman has a salty life
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Will CS3 have a salt-element spell as a Lost Art?
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>>376596673
Will NISA NTR Cold Steel III from XSEED?
>dual audio
>PC port right away instead of 1+ years later
I sure hope so actually.
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>>376599717
>not Olivert
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>>376601779
Agreed.
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>>376602857
nah, it will have campanella's S-Craft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4slYCdZc2RQ
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>>376602924
>Bricks your console midgame
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>>376602481
So that's why Estelle wants to fuck Joshua so bad.
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>>376603098
Even better. PS4fags will be forced to buy it on Steam.
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rare Ries
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>>376602924
Yes, and then XSEED literally liquidates most of their assets in order to afford Crossbell, and from then on, they exclusively use crowdfunding to localize games.
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Will we finally get to battle lechter? We already know what his S-Craft looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmX1rZybdxI
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>tfw kevin had a hard life
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>>376601924
> Play Zero and Ao EVO on Vita
> Play Sora FC, SC, and 3rd EVO on Vita
Feels good.
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>>376605628
I wonder how theyll do progress carry over with Sen3 on ps4 only. Played the first two on Vita
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>>376600393
Just as emotional as SC's "Hamel" or "The dream continues". You can always count on Falcom's sound team.
Also, I noticed that for some reason, the names of The 3rd's videos on that channel have changed. From Arca of Recluse to Recluse Cube, from Labyrinth of Light and Shadow to Labyrinth of Shadows and Light and probably more. Are these official English track titles?
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>>376602924
>XSEED blew their budget on the most expensive dub they have ever done
>On a game that sold 6% of that the previous game sold in Japan
>Barely reached 10k sales
>That got BTFO by literally everyone, including Famitsu

Why? Why did they even think that was a remotely good idea?
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>>376605828
I doubt there will be a carry over and I don't think there's a need for it. I mean, you have an entirely new cast at the beginning of the game.
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>>376605828
Probably the cross-save way? Upload your Sen 2 clear data to be read by Sen 3?
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>3rd was essentially handled by 3 people working full time
>translator, editor, programmer
So... what exactly is supposedly making Crossbell so difficult to localize? It can't be licensing costs when it doesn't feature voice acting, and it sure as fuck can't be employee wages. Now that they're even paying for outsourced porting, there should be nothing preventing them from seeking the license, especially when NISA is aggressively going after Falcom as well.
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Why do people think NIS is going to take Trails from XSeed? The script is gigantic and they'd need that Kiseki bible XSeed made for things to be synonymous with the rest of the series. Like if they were for instance to to have Enforcers be called Legion instead. It'd be such a huge mess that unless they work with XSeed it's going to end badly for them.
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>>376606486
Because Falcom wants their games released in the, and XSEED is 1. incredibly slow, and 2. always careful with what they license. Falcom doesn't give a fuck if there are inconsistencies.
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>>376606486
Most players don't give a fuck about consistency.
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Calvard when?
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>>376606564

>Falcom doesn't give a fuck if there are inconsistencies.

Falcom is the entire reason Zane got changed to Zin. So yes they do seem to care. Though I wonder if it'd be legal for NIS to just use the lore translations XSeed has. A translation is a translation.
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>>376606778
>Falcom is the entire reason Zane got changed to Zin
That's a straight up translation error, not an inconsistency between games. Also, the only reason the name was retroactively changed in previous games is because XSEED actually cares. Falcom likely couldn't care less as long as their games are available for sale in the west.
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XSEED Crossbell never ever.
Nisa Crossbell 2018.
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>>376607168
>trails in the sky ends with a trail in the sky
P O T T E R Y
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>>376606808
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>>376596673
Holy shit that looks almost Tales tier graphics. When did Falcom get the money to make this?
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>>376606083
B-But it's not a lewd game, so it must be good! WE HATE LEWD GAMES!
Notice how Marvelous are the only ones putting Valkyrie Drive on Steam.
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>>376605987
They have been updated using XSEED's in-game terminology. The JP titles also used in-game terminology.

>376606447
>So... what exactly is supposedly making Crossbell so difficult to localize?

Unlike with Zero, Falcom never backported the original Japanese script into Joyoland's Chinese PC port of Ao. That means there's currently no version of Ao that XSEED can work on, and there's no point localising Zero if you can't localise Ao afterwards.
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>>376606083

What game are you talking about?
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>>376606486
We're just making fun of XSEED over losing Ys VIII to NISA. We very well know they'll get Cold Steel III. It's still fun to speculate.
NISA will likely steal another non-Trails game from them though.
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>Ries eating the goods

the absolute madwoman
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So will there be more or fewer Tiofags on /v/ once EOPs finally get to play her game?
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>>376607738
I'm in love with Ries.
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>>376607586
This and since both games are PSP ports they look kinda bad compared to Sky. I wouldn't be surprised if XSEED works with Falcom to create completely new PC versions instead.
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>>376607852
>implying EOPs will ever get to play zero and ao
The Crossbell arc will be forever missing in the west.
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>>376607738
I want that Parin mask.
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>>376607653
Akiba's Beat.
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>>376607919

Wouldn't that be pretty beneficial to Falcom? They get two new sweet PC Ports of Zero and Ao they can sell in Japan.
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GO

FIGHT
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>>376608029
>PC Ports
>sell in Japan
Falcom didn't even care to remove DRM from the already existing PC version of Ao because no one cares about it.
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>>376607586
>Falcom never backported the original Japanese script into Joyoland's Chinese PC port of Ao.
That's not a realistic barrier. They'd be forced to outsource brand new ports, like they're doing with Sen. If there's a will, there's a way, and XSeed sure as fuck want as many railroad cars left of the Falcom money train now that there's legitimate competition for their licenses.
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>>376607951
probably so
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>>376603303
Can't wait for my entire C: drive to be formatted due to NISA's incompetence.
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>>376608436
>retarded consolefag
The guys in charge of doing most of their PC ports are actually competent.
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>>376608405
I want to deposit my seed in her womb.
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>>376608620
Disgaea says hi.
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>>376606486

NISA fag please go back to vitagen you're not wanted here.
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>>376601924
Waaahhhhh

Cry morr bitchass
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>>376608704
Disgaea got patched and works 100% now.
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>>376607976

I'm still baffled they bothered bringing that game over.
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STOP giving the NISA shitposter (You)s, retards
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>>376608864
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>>376608864
posters? It's obviously only one autistic shitlord from vitagen trying to force a meme
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>>376608848
With the most expensive dub they have ever done on top of that, at least 180 VAs.

On a game that didn't even sell 10% of the previous game's sales.
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>>376608951
Work on your reading comprehension
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>>376608979

>On a game that didn't even sell 10% of the previous game's sales.

You've gotta be shitting me. What the fuck were they thinking.

>>376608951

Trying to start a NISA meme? The hell?
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>>376609175
10k sales compared to 160k in Japan, it's amazing how badly the game sold.
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>>376608242
>They'd be forced to outsource brand new ports, like they're doing with Sen.

Sen and Tokyo Xanadu use PhyreEngine, which makes PC porting super easy. Zero and Ao were made with Falcom's internal engine.

And I doubt you guys want to play Zero and Ao on PC with PSP assets. The assets from Joyoland's versions are more HD than the PSP versions too (textures look a bit like shit tho)
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>>376609249
Where are you getting this 10k number? Your ass?
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>>376609073

Yeah for some reason my eyes did the thing where it took the S of (you)s and put it at the end of shitposters.
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>>376609438
>In Famitsu's Top 30, Akiba's Beat ranked as the 26th best selling of that tracking window with 5248 units sold, for a 20-40% sell-through

On official sales numbers for the 1st week.

I know it's not the most accurate, but vgchartz says the sales reached 10k.
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>>376609337
>Sen and Tokyo Xanadu use PhyreEngine,
It literally doesn't matter. For example, one guy ported Tales of Symphonia to PC with minimal effort. It turned out shit, then ONE guy fixed it in a day with 3rd party software. You're greatly overestimating the difficulty of porting a video game. A modern game that requires optimization, that's a different matter entirely. Also, the Chinese assets you speak of were likely provided to them by Falcom. You see, textures and artwork is generally made at a much higher resolution than what is in the final product, for performance reasons. Falcom likely has these assets, just like the ones provided for the western PC releases of Sora.
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XSEED went all in before Akiba's Beat released in Japan, thinking it'd sell even better than the previous game. It didn't. Not even close.

XSEED are probably shitting themselves right now. Crossbell will never happen because Akiba's Beat will bankrupt them.
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>>376609438
http://gematsu.com/2016/12/media-create-sales-121216-121816
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>>376609713
What made them think Akiba's Beat would sell?
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Anyone actually play Akiba's Beat? Is it really that bad that it tanked in Japan? Gameplay looks like a Tales of game. Which is fucking weird since the previous was stripping.
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>>376609438
>Trip debuted at 54,000 sales and kept selling past 100,000
>Beat debuted at 5000 sales and finding official sales numbers for it is almost impossible since it didn't make any charts
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>>376609881
Yeah, 1 and 2 were goofy Yakuza clones.
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>>376608864
We're not "shitposters", we just happen to not agree with you. Deal with it.
And quit bitching, NISA is not gonna steal Cold Steel from XSEED, it wouldn't make any senses, fucking retard.
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>>376609713
>XSEED are probably shitting themselves right now. Crossbell will never happen because Akiba's Beat will bankrupt them.
Probably. With the loss of Ys, they're just fucking doomed, despite 3rd selling well. If they weren't genuinely retarded, they'd contact Falcom about the possibility of setting up a crowdfunding campaign for Crossbell.
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By the way, there's already a controversy surrounding Akiba's Beat.
http://www.xseedgames.com/forum/index.php?threads/akibas-beat-localization-changes.29239/
XSEED's core audience is fucking pissed. The end is literally in sight.
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>>376610231

They mentioned in an interview that they'd never do crowd funding. Apparently it looks super unprofessional and Falcom would take it the wrong way.
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>>376609713
Their fault for not wanting to port Valkyrie Drive themselves. Though they can be thankful for the Senran Kagura ports selling like crazy on Steam.
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>>376596673
No, I got bored of TitS during the shitty school festival and ferrying orphans around so I gave up on the franchise. Art is nice though.
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>>376610350
>Chunk Widebody
>Twiggy Slims
>Mippity Mop

Jesus.
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>>376610357

If you look at a lot of the kickstarters launched to translate VNs into english and release them then I agree with Falcom's assessment that they're unprofessional as fuck.
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>>376610350

They'll let it slide. Can't think of a single controversy where people actually didn't buy a game because of something a company did. Plus XSeed were upfront about it too.
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>try to farm grimoires in the abyss for weapons
>stack all the drop increase items
>kite them around for minutes waiting for them to transform
>make sure to get the final kill with the character with all the items
>celestial balm
>celestial balm
>celestial balm
>celestial balm
>celestial balm

Is it even worth doing this shit?
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>>376609872
Akiba's Trip was a surprise hit for XSEED.
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>You will witness XSEED going bankrupt in your lifetime
Fuck them and the way they shitted on vita owners.
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>>376610474
You gave up right before FC got good. Seriously.
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>3rd came out a few days ago
>People expect Crossbell to have a release date already
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>>376610815

In what way did they do that?
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>>376610838
WE JUST WANT SOME TRANSPARENCY MANG
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>>376609872
Akiba's Trip was a huge hit. It was a goofy Yakuza clone with waifus, memes, tons of cutstomization, an amusing gameplay gimmick and the ability to beat vampires into the ground with manga or a body pillow.

Beat is literally a Tales clone with none of the stuff that made Trip popular.
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>Play FC and SC
>Read Olivier's text in Olivier's voice

>Play Coldsteel 1 and 2
>Listen to Matt Mercer reading Olivier's text

>Play 3rd
>Read Olivier's text in Matt Mercer's voice

Fuck
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>akiba's abortion
>fate/shit
>no ys
>no tokyo xanadu
It's like they just want to go bankrupt and move on with their lives at this point.
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>>376610815
Vita games don't sell. But I agree, good riddance. Fuck their english dub meme.
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>>376607423
Probably from bumping up Trails of Cold Steel from the Vita to the PS3. Now they're making the leap to PS4 exclusive, so it's clear they've got the money this time around for something built for current-gen from the ground-up.
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>>376610984
>not reading it in Koyasu's voice since the beginning
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>>376610984
It'll be nice undubbing the pc release.
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>>376611125
Wait I thought Xanadu was coming this year?
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>>376610897
When they announced CS3 as a PS4 exclusive they tweeted good riddance to the vita, even though vita accounted for ~60% of their sales. Add on how Hatsuu started tweeting that vita owners should fuck off and buy a PS4. I'll be laughing when NISA cucks them by releasing a faster translation with dual-audio and a pc port.
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>>376611241
Yes, but Aksys stole it from XSEED. It's not just NISA wanting to fuck over XSEED and get on dat Falcom money train.
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>>376611241
Aksys NTR'd XSEED from it.
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>>376611157
>Tfw 60% Vita sales

No wonder Cold Steel is suddenly being ported to Steam
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>>376611321
>>376611356
>Wanted to play Xanadu
>Aksys
>MFW I live in Europe
I'm fucked
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>>376611468
It'll be on Steam.
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Nightwolve, kindly fuck off to whatever hole you crawled from and stop shitting up Falcom game related threads.
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>>376611468
It's getting a simultaneous Steam release.
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>>376611531

Who the fuck is that?
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>tfw this will probably happen to Agate in CS3

https://nhentai.net/g/110895/
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>>376610960
Akiba's Trip stopped being fun after about an hour, the combat was super annoying and repetitive and it's basically the only thing you'll be doing most of the game. No clue how it sold as well as it did.
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>>376611769

Never underestimate the weeb crowd. It's why Cold Steel will sell like hot cakes.
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>>376611769
Maybe it was all the stupid mess with the use of the word "trap" in the translation. Please make some drama with Star Door 15 or something.
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>>376611895
>implying it's not because of the plushies.
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>>376611895
Cold Steel won't sell well because weebs hate English voices.
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>>376611125
Pretty sure Fate did okay but Akiba's Beat will bomb
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>>376612143
Some fag will make a JP voice patch within a week of release.
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Is there any actual romance between Estelle and Joshua? Because it would feel like a waste of 3 games worth of character development if there wasn't any.
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>>376612039
>Ys, Trails and Nep
Nice.
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>>376612297

There's plenty. Just keep in mind the Sky trilogy wasn't gunning for the waifu crowd so it's not as blatant.
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>>376612297
They fog like rabbits and have lots of children.

Their relationship does develop over the course of Sky 1 and they do become a couple at the end of Sky 2.
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>>376612297
They adopt a daughter in Crossbell.
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>>376612278
I doubt it, it's much harder to mod voices back with the stuff XSEED is doing.
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>>376612428
Erectile dysfunction confirmed.
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>>376612491
It's Renne who they adopt.
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SC was already pushing it with reused assets, but goddamn, TC is ridiculous.
>let us just repackage all the previous areas, characters, skills, items etc, add some walkways with a starry background and call it a new game
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>>376612491
Estelle just wants to collect emotionally stunted child soldiers like Pokémon.
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>>376612557
SC was worse. At least 3rd has mostly new enemies.
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>>376612297
The relationship between Estelle and Joshua is LITERALLY the driving force behind everything in the first 2 games. It's not haremshit.
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>>376612557
Who the fuck plays these games, or any games, for the backgrounds and scenery?
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>>376612557
>>376612646
You guys DO realize that Trails in the Sky is a very story-driven game, right? And that the first two games LITERALLY take place in the same exact locations? There's nothing wrong with re-using assets in this case.

Would you rather they just try to shoehorn new locations into the plot just because? Even though there's literally no need for it whatsoever and the characters would be unlikely to leave Liberl in the story?

Stop whining about this stupid bullshit. This isn't Neptunia, which reuses assets because they're cheap. This is Trails, they reuse assets within the Liberl trilogy because - Guess what? - THEY ALL TAKE PLACE WITHIN LIBERL
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I can't imagine lewd Estelle at all. She's pretty unusual even for tomboy.
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>>376612784
yes
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>>376612784
One thing that bites most is the arbitrary orbment reset
>Oops teehee, guess a lv90 Kevin has to start again with HP 1 and Acion 1 before getting back all the spells he already had :)
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>>376612784
I mean, it's not entirely reasonable in 3rd because that one doesn't actually take place in Liberl.

For a world created sort-of-based on the mind of a continent travelling knight it's incredibly low on places that he'd been too outside of Liberl.
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>>376612938
Don't ever play a Metroid game.
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>>376601485
Sara says at one point she only started drinking because a certain dapper middle aged man taught her to.
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>>376601485
She had a harsh life.
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Damn Kloe is head over heels for Gil.
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>>376612938
The worst part is that there isn't anything about it, just "Oh, all of the quartz broke. Bugger."

No real rhyme or reason, it just fucking happens.
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>>376599278
Campanella makes me question myself sometimes.
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>>376612784
Recycling FC/SC bosses like Loewe, Reverie, Pater-Mater and Ragnard is too much though
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Any other ways to up drop rate in addition to Josette support + Fortune + Thief's Cape? I want those upgraded Schwarz Silks but they just won't drop.
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>>376613206
I mean, from a lore standpoint it sort of makes sense, The enemies are based off of things that the characters know, and because of how Phantasma works that familiarity probably makes them more accurate copies. Which is why chapter six had you bring people familiar with all of the boss fights and their styles. I'd still prefer it if they just made up some extra devils or something though.
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>Gilbert shows up again

By this point it just feels like he's there to be bullied.
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>>376612784
They use the same monsters too moron. It's a video game story alone won't cut it
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>>376612365
Dude you've got it completely backwards, Estelle and Joshua's love story is by far the most blatant love story in the entire franchise, and precisely because they didn't gun for the which grill wud u fug xDD angle. The plot is written around their relationship and the most iconic scene in Sky is Estelle blowing away Joshua's angst with pure love, unlike in Cold Steel where romance moments are interchangeable and not smoothly woven into the story. Hell, Rean remains a kissless virgin unless you go for Alisa while Estelle and Joshua make out 3 times during FC and SC.
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What face will she make when Agate dies protecting her in Sen 3?
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Why did they keep giving Kevin S-crafts that just can't match up to Grail Sphere? I'm almost certain I wouldn't have beaten the last boss if I'd been using Spear of Whatsit.
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Just finished FC and boy was it mediocre but I'm playing SC right now and it's pretty great. My only complaint is Estelle but the other characters make up for her. I'll probably like Zero and Cold Steel better if their main characters aren't annoying
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>>376613817
She's going to be Rean's concubine.
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>>376613851
It's the reason why you can swap them in the first place. Most are for full offensive, so the scale can only go up.

But for characters like Kloe and Kevin who start off with support S-crafts it just feels like the next ones won't be as good. It's nice for when you can use it though to get some extra DPS in.
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>>376613718
Nice try, but no. There are plenty of monsters in both SC and 3rd that are not present in FC.
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>>376613817
She'll cry, but Rean will headpat her into happiness she could never achieve with Agate.
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>>376611249
Did they actually do something that stupid? Do you have a link or picture of the tweets?
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>>376613884
>cold steel
I hope you like dense self-loathing deviantart OCs
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>>376611249
yeah man gotta love that speedy machine translation and zero consistency with the rest of the series

YEAH!!
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>>376613851
>Use Spear of Loa on a group of Shining Poms
>lol Time element resistance :^)
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>>376613696
Gilbert should team up with Duvalie.
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>>376614010
>Estelle the monsters you fought before became stronger
>Why?
>The society probably had something to do with it
Nice try
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>>376596673
What a cute loli, is she related to Alfin? I hope she's romanceable, she looks like she needs some of that lean mean headpatting machine Rean.
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>>376613530
I don't think there are. Farming this stuff and the grimoires for weapons is a real pain in the ass and it's probably not even worth it for beating the game.
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>>376613884
Olivier carries Sora imo
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>>376614220
Wasn't that most likely due to the seal being opened that caused some small change in the place? At least i don't remember the society messing with the Fauna.
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>>376614179
The best part is, there's no reason for me to use Kevin's CP to deal damage to all enemies when he can just sacrifice arrow it over to someone better.

I was a big fan of my three phantom Raid's in three turns strat for the start of the final boss fight.
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>>376614261
Your b8 might be a little too obvious m8.
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>>376614165
>t. scared XSEED employee
You're company is trash Britney, enjoy your pending unemployment while other companies clean up your mess.
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>>376614286
In SC the moment anything of note happened everyone assumed Ouroboros was behind it.
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>Get to know more about Tita and Agate while checking around
>On a later event learn about her determination to be a great engineer
>Rean headpats her thinking she's cute
>Everything freezes and goes negative
>I came here to protect my darling angel from that scumbag redhead, but it seems like he's not my only enemy now.

Well?
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I don't usually play JRPGs but I fucking love the TitS series, currently playing 3rd. The games are so relaxing and carefree that it really reminds me of the simpler times as a kid. It's a shame that the Cold Steel series seems like bland high school harem anime.
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>>376613884
What don't you like about Estelle?
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>>376614442

It'd honestly be more funny if it happens when Rean headpats Tita in front of Agate.
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>>376614285
Too bad he only does cameos in the games that truly need carrying.
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>>376614594
He showed up in Ao you know. Pretty much all the games aside from one.
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>>376614495
>3rd
>relaxing and carefree
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>>376614442
>Rean touches random kids he barely even knows
If this wasn't anime shit he'd be suspect as fuck.
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>>376614594
>Too bad he only does cameos in the games that truly need carrying.
TitS would suck without him
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>>376614495
Sora no Kiseki is literally more than a decade old that's why it isn't plagued with modern jrpg and animu shitfests. The original FC came out on pc in nipland on 2004 afterall.
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>>376614772
>Defeat me. That is all.
To be fair, that was the most relaxing coffin nap I've ever had.
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>>376614729
Ao doesn't need carrying, it's got Randy.
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>>376614802
Dude did you even bother reading the magazine scans? Tita sneaks into Valimar's cockpit when Rean is sleeping and tries to rape him
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Genuinely can't tell anymore if anons are trolling for lolz or if they're trying to convince regulars that XSEED can go bankrupt from one game with a somewhat larger budget than usual. They make more than enough money from PC sales, and games from 2015 and 2016, to get by. Some people are still gonna get the LE and Akiba's Trip will still sell well, and XSEED has maybe 15 people compared to a lot more at NISA.

What's happened is there's actual competition for Falcom games now, so it's a matter of if, not when, for Zero and Ao, and I'm expecting new PC ports which Sara and/or a port team will do. The actual localization takes considerably less time than it used to for XSEED, but other companies might have trouble adapting to Kiseki script sizes w/o making sacrifices. I even think XSEED would do a simultaneous PC release of Sen III if the PC ports do well enough—easier to get that prepared than nab the script from Falcom before launch.

>>376612938
No, the problem is you can't save orbment profiles, and there's 15 fighters (and Josette) who you have to configure orbments for. I'm about to start taking photos of my configs in a separate folder so I can speed this up.

>>376613160
It's pretty obvious what happened: the Cube overreacted to Kevin and Ries' orbments just like the Aureole shorts out quartz, and it decides not to do this later because reasons (probably activating the monuments tells the Cube you guys are cool).

Asset reuse in 3rd is a thing because Falcom was making four other original games starting in 2007 (Zwei!! II, Brandish: The Dark Revenant, (two?) Ys Seven(s), and Zero no Kiseki). They put as much work into the script as possible knowing this game carries less on the strength of its new content and more on enriching the old, which it does very well.

>>376612812
Estelle lewds are pretty typical, but that's fine. She doesn't have to be super crazy in the sack, and Joshua likely prefers to cuddle.

>>376613140
She's looking at Lech Terarundel tho
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>>376614859
>Sora no Kiseki is literally more than a decade old that's why it isn't plagued with modern jrpg and animu shitfests
That delusion. I seriously don't know why people deny that Kiseki is anime as fuck
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>>376615004
It is but each series follows different anime trends at the time of release. So the older games anime stuff feels quaint in comparison to Cold Steel.
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>>376615004
Honestly I think it's young/underage people saying this stuff. The sky games have always been very anime, in fact Tita is a pretty generic loli and Agate could've been a spikey haired protagonist straight from the 90s. Just off the top of my head
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>>376615004
Keyword is modern you selectively reading monkey.
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I find Estelle and Joshua's romance to be rather unsettling. Honestly it seems like Estelle was the one who liked him and he was forced into it because his reliance on his bond with the Brights. If Weissman was the old magician who then Estelle is a witch. I wish Joshua and Loewe made up and moved far away instead.
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Would you like some syrup?
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>>376615004
Because people here prefer playing non-anime fanservice-free japanese games, like Ys.
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>>376615004
Old anime is better than new anime so the cliches that Sora uses are much less offputting than the virgin harem pandering in Sen.
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>>376615289
>Honestly it seems like Estelle was the one who liked him and he was forced into it
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>>376615289
>he was forced into it because his reliance on his bond with the Brights
You don't understand Joshua. Go play SC and then his and Estelle's door in the 3rd.
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>>376614908
Randy is probably going to be the biggest disappointment ever to me because there's no way he can live up to the insane expectations I have for him, from japfag hype and what little I've read about him.
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Even Xanadu Next has lolis. There's really no escape.

>>376614440
In this case, they eventually realized that Weissmann's kooky even by Ouroboros standards, going out of his way to torment Estelle's party and the whole country. Not a bad idea to pin everything on them when this guy's leading the Gospel Plan.

>>376615289
Their Moon Door in 3rd shows the moment 5 years before FC where he realizes he cares for her, no matter how he feels about himself. Also, pretty sure he had trouble remembering Loewe since Weissmann rigged him to remember anything, especially as part of his mission spying on Cassius. Joshua could have ditched the Brights anytime and survived (in fact, he does this at the end of SC), but something compelled him to believe in Estelle despite how stupid she acted as a kid. And if he was desperate then, be glad they aren't desperate now.
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>>376615289
Joshua has always loved her since they were kids
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>>376613817

I'm honestly surprised both weren't killed by Ouroboros yet, considering how ruthless they are.
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>>376615289
Joshua loved Estelle far longer than she did him. He loved her before FC even started, Estelle was the dense shounen protag in this case. Joshua is just much better at hiding it, since he's timid, introverted and secretive in nature unlike Estelle.
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>>376615289
Joshua's a faggot so he deserves to be saddled with Shitstelle. He lives happily in a country which keeps quiet about his hometown.
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>>376615730
Ouroboros does whatever the fuck they want. Plus they have no reason to target them.
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>>376615730
I swear Falcom better let Ouroboros win.
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>shitstelle
B8, do not reply
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>>376615661
Randy probably seems overhyped because there are only a few japfags in these threads, and it just happens by coincidence that they all like him. So you end up with the illusion that everyone loves and hypes Randy when it's just the same 2-3 people.
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>>376615730
Most of the Ouroboros members involved with the Aureole plot either died or defected. Campanella rarely showed up and generally didn't give a damn.

Plus, if they off Tita and Agate, then Estelle and Joshua might start investigating. Then they need to kill them, and Joshua isn't easy to deal with.

And if they kill them, then Cassius Mother Fucking Bright is on the case. They'd lose an Enforcer or two, maybe an Anguis, considering how incredibly hyped up he is throughout the Sora trilogy.

And ignoring all of that, even though Weissman's plan failed. Ouroboros got what they wanted out of the whole thing. Why get vengeful?
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>>376615297
Sure, I'd love some Gnosis.
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>>376616054
Rean "Cold Steel" Osbourne is going to single handily destroy them
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I wanna play cold steel on vita, but does it run like shit on the vita?
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>>376615289
Did you even pay attention to Joshua at all while playing? How would you even come to that conclusion?
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>>376615952
>Super powerful militarized country kills it's own citizens and puts the blame on you in order to invade you.
>Hold them back long enough for a while but it can't last long.
>Someone fucked up and let it leak that the empire did that shit.
>They kill everyone involved to hush it up and then offer a deal so that you don't let that information out and they stop the war.
>They can easily crush your country if this keeps up.

You'd have done the same in the Queen's position. It's an unfair thing for those in Hamel, but it's far better than risking thousands of lives of your own countryman. Joshua understands that too, which is why he's not angry.
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>>376615993
>Plus they have no reason to target them.

The consequences of the Gospel Plan failing was elevating a bunch of random Liberl Bracers into a position where they could hold their own and even defeat Enforcers, if this isn't reason enough for being targeted by assassins then I don't know what else could possibly be.

Well, there was the Church revealing their power level too, but even Ouroboros isn't foolish enough to start a war with them.
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>>376616225
There are some hiccuos during the festival and when mcburn goes ALL OF ME mode but other than that it's fine

I played it on a pstv btw
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>>376616157
>Joshua isn't easy to deal with.
Nice joke but Joshua is one of the weakest enforcers.
>Cassius Mother Fucking Bright is on the case
We already have a couple of people who can handle him
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>>376615730
>Holdbackboros
>the society that lets Sharon fight against their goals without any punishment
>the society that let Joshua and Renne go despite knowing many of their secrets
>the society that never finishes anyone off
>ruthless
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>>376616323
Ouroboros got what it wanted, the aureole. Why be mad? They're succeeding so far. Weissman being a retard who got owned is irrelevant
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>>376615661
As far as i'm Aware, he's a pretty cool bro type and chill dude who knows how to get serious and help. I think you can have a little faith in him.

He's also pretty good at combat. He's physical focused, but he has crafts worth a damn, like an AoE grenade that blinds everyone like Tita's, and AT delay + burn and some other ones.
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I just got the third game, what am I in for?
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>>376616289
>Super powerful militarized country kills it's own citizens and puts the blame on you in order to invade you.
That's just propaganda. If you play CS you'll realize how laughable TitS's Erebonia boogeyman is.
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>>376616541
Party members hatching from magical eggs, a weird clown villain, and Celeste D. Auslese.
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>>376616541
Despair, suffering and punishment
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>>376615661
He's Lockon Startos except more chill
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>>376616541
Depression.
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>>376616323
>The consequences of the Gospel Plan failing was elevating a bunch of random Liberl Bracers into a position where they could hold their own and even defeat Enforcers
Except that the enforcers were holding back
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>>376616323
Weissman was being tested too, and he failed the test so they don't give a fuck.

They got what they wanted, and that's it.
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>>376616541
Exterminatus.
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>>376616323
You do realize that the enforcers were holding back right?
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>>376616580
Not true, Osborne's desire for conquest is very real and erebonian warhawks have already shown their intention to invade. In fact they almost did in SC, but olivier stopped them
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>>376616323
>The consequences of the Gospel Plan failing was elevating a bunch of random Liberl Bracers into a position where they could hold their own and even defeat Enforcers
All they have to do is send McBurn to kill them
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>>376616580
They literally tried to invade when Liberl was without any sort of orbment energy since Osborne was working with the Ouroboros.
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>>376616054
Hard to know if the other characters. factions, and countries would actually cooperate with or fight Ouroboros when their Orpheus Plan is under wraps.

>>376616225
Poorly in certain areas, and Cold Steel II gets worse, but it's usually fine.

>>376616393
Joshua's starting to learn Cassius's (S-)crafts by Crossbell, so he's getting better in straight combat, and Estelle's catching up.

>>376616467
Like in any long crystal war, one side's going to start hoarding the shit while making enemies left and right, and then the fight's gonna come to whoever has the stuff but won't necessarily keep it. Everything comes down to whether the Bracer Guild, Gralsritter, and government forces can dislodge and diplomatically divide the Sept-Terrions between parts of Zemuria.

>>376616157
Joshua's only true foe was Weissmann, and of course an Anguis could pull off some crazy shit. They've honestly missed their window for getting rid of Estelle and Joshua, at least for now, because Loewe's gone and they're busy elsewhere.

>>376616774
Not Walter, probably not Luci if she's really more focused on suggestion and putting people into naps. But it's true that no one's found a surefire way to stop shadow stitching except photo flashes.
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>>376615354
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>>376616393
Joshua's one of the weaker Enforcers in a straight fight, but he's also probably one of the hardest to assassinate. And Joshua and Estelle together can take some lower tier Enforcers in a straight fight.

And if Ouroboros can just deal with Cassius, then why did Weissman go with a decade long plot to get to know him well enough to get him out of the way and occupied for the duration of his plan.
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>>376616908
>Estelle's catching up.
She inherited her mother's shitty genes. It was over for her before she even began
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>>376616954
>tfw Renne cuddled with Estelle when she thought it was a dream
So cute
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>>376616954
No because they're ditching at least half of irrelevant Class VII
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>>376616940
>Joshua's one of the weaker Enforcers in a straight fight, but he's also probably one of the hardest to assassinate
All they have to do is go after Estelle which is easy
>And if Ouroboros can just deal with Cassius, then why did Weissman go with a decade long plot to get to know him well enough to get him out of the way and occupied for the duration of his plan.
Weissman was fodder.
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>>376617018
Well she managed to learn Cassius S-Craft at least.
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>>376615665
Indeed, there's even a screen with your loli looking at you. Are there even a single Falcom game with no loli in it?
Ys Oath has a rich loli.
Ys VI has the loli sister who want Adol's dick.
Ys Celc has a loli in bloomers.
Ys II has lolis who want to marry you.
Gurumin has loli protagonist, you can even see her panties.
Kiseki has Tita and Millium.
Tokyo Xanadu has a ghost-like loli.
Ys VIII has a brown loli with so little clothes you can probably see her nipples on her 3d model. I'm going to rip her model once it comes on Steam to see if I can remove some clothes.
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>>376617018
Like they would know. I'm pretty sure only Thirteen Factories and top Epstein labs can analyze your genome and heritage at this point unless that's a thing in Crossbell.
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>>376612365
>>376612398
Glad to hear it, it really would be a waste to have clear dual protagonists with such great chemistry and then do nothing with it. Jrpgs always seem to have a bad habit of being too scared to actually have romance in them.
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>>376617148
It's not as easy when she's glued to Joshua 24/7
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>>376616837
>Enforcers can decline requests if they want to
>Send the "i don't give a fuck, everything is boring" dude

Nah.
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ayo lads, legit curious for the dudes playing the games in english

did playing the 3rd change whatever opinion you had over cold steel?

do you think the shock in difference between the works people felt (similar to a shock in temperature) was justified?

tell us how do you feel after beating the 3rd
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>>376617234
The romance is nothing special. Honestly for TitS I'd recommend playing for the side characters and the villains both also happen to be way better the protagonists. Except Schera who's just downright awful
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>>376616580
You mean when Osborne suddenly had a legion of steam tanks ready to invade after the Liber Ark showed up despite them being obsolete
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>>376617158
Ys Origin's closest is Yunica, but I dunno if you can call her a loli
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>>376617158
Brandish said hi. It's also dead. But well.
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>>376614074
Of course he doesn't. It's one thing a retard keep repeating whit no proof.
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>>376617367
McBurn would find it fun to kill a former comrade
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>>376617513
He's look for a tough fight, not a curbstomp. Amusing himself with sadism isn't his type, that's Weissman's.
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>>376616954
Who's gonna pay for the voice actors?
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>>376616393
Now that you mention it.

"Why doesn't Ourouboros send All Of Me to kill Cassius?"
Seems like a decent question to ask.
He could do it so I would speculate:

1. The Grandmaster wants Cassius alive for some reason
2. McBurn wants Cassius alive for some reason
3. McBurn doesn't care and the Grandmaster can't convince him
4. Cassius is irrelevant

or it's

5. Cassius is stronger than McBurn
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>>376617513
McBurn isn't a sadist or vengeful, he only finds challenging battles fun.
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>>376617483
Oh yeh forgot about Ys Origin. Yunica is more dfc than loli I think.
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>>376617575
Cassius is irrelevant.
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>>376617338
Literally the first thing he tells her to work on is not getting herself killed. She's a lot more likely to do this since Weissmann sicced Doll Joshua on her thinking he could get Joshua to kill her effortlessly.

>>376617474
They would still have been repelled, Osborne just wanted to make a show rather than commit to war at that point. After all, their orbal-powered gear would have failed too in Liberl with Liber Ark still in the sky.

>>376617483
Yunica's a high-schooler by Ys standards.

>>376617492
Brandish and Dinosaur both have little ghost girls, no actual lolis aside.
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>>376617429
Hey, beggars can't be choosers. As long as there's something I think I'll be satisfied. I do agree that the side characters are really great but I really like Joshua and Estelle, but that might be since I've only played coldsteel and most of the characters are boring as shit so they seem a lot better in comparison.
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>>376617647
>McBurn isn't a sadist or vengeful, he only finds challenging battles fun.
That's my point. Fighting an enforcer would provide a challenge for him
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>>376616954
Sen II already had a bigger cast.
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>>376617575
Cassius isn't just pure strength and skill he's also super perceptive and has great intuition, and knows how to form a counter plan for almost anything even if it's a surprise one like stated by Campanella at the start of SC. That's why he was dangerous, because if he caught wind of what was going on, he'd try to put a plan to stop it.

Cassius is a pretty damn big monster on his own, and he also had the Bracer guild on his side. With Military paperwork keeping him busy Weissman thought it was easier to exploit him, which it was, but he still pulled a fast one on him.
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>>376617575
>5. Cassius is stronger than McBurn
This is the correct answer

With a staff, cassius is still the strongest man in liberl, a legitimate national hero. Sword Cassius, utilizing his full mastery of the eight leaves one blade school, should be able to beat McBurn
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>>376617714
>They would still have been repelled, Osborne just wanted to make a show rather than commit to war at that point. After all, their orbal-powered gear would have failed too in Liberl with Liber Ark still in the sky.

what? the tanks weren't orbal powered, where'd you get that from?
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Big autistic kiseki powerlevel post

Near omnipotent: Azure Demiourgos
SSSS: Arianrhod, Ein Selnate, McBurn ,Georg Weissmann (Aureole)
SSS: Cassius Bright (with sword), Baldur Orlando, Rutger Claussell
SS: Leonhardt, Arios MacLaine, Sigmund Orlando, Victor S. Arseid
S: Cassius Bright (stick)
A+: Kevin Graham, Rufina Argent, Mariabell Crois
A: Walter, Kilika Rouran, Shirley Orlando, Rixia Mao, Zin Vathek, Bleublanc, Luciola, Renne Hayworth, Wazy Hemisphere, Duvalie, Xeno, Leonidas, Sharon Kreuger, Rufus Albarea
A-: Garcia Rossi, Kurt Nardin, Alex Dudley, Maximillian Cid, Phillipp Reinard, Mueller Vander, General Morgan, Joshua Bright, Randy Orlando, Alan Richard, Rean Schwarzer (ogre), Crow Armbrust, Neithardt, Vulcan, Sara Valestein, Claire Rieveldt
B+: Agate Crosner, Scherazard Harvey, Julia Schwarz, Ries Argent, Scarlet, Toval Randonneur, Olivert Reise Arnor
B: Estelle Bright, Anelace Elfead, Carna, Grant, Noel Seeker, Mireille, Lloyd Bannings, Laura S. Arseid, Fie Claussell, Rean Schwarzer, Angelica Rogner
B-: Klaudia von Auslese, Gaius Worzel, Jusis Albarea, Emma Millstein, Patrick T. Hyarms, Kanone Amalthea
C: Elie MacDowell, Tio Plato, Alisa Reinford, Machias Regnitz, Elliot Craig, Towa Herschel
C-: Josette Capua, Elise Schwarzer, Tita Russell, Alfin Reise Arnor, Gilbert
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>>376617575
Grandmaster doesn't order hits on people nillywilly, she's rather benevolent for the leader of a super secret evil organization.
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>>376617148
>Weissman was fodder.
He was still an Anguis, and they entrusted Loewe to his plot, and Loewe is up there among the Enforcers. They wouldn't mess with their chances of getting the Aureole by not putting in the effort.

If they could safely kill Cassius, there's no real reason for them not to. Barring yet more Enforcer-doesn't-care fiat.
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>>376617763
>Implying he isn't pretty damn aware that Joshua isn't that big of a hotshot

He was lamenting the fact that Loewe died and lost a dude to equally spar with or at least see him grow strong enough to do so. So that means he's aware of Joshua, and how he's more focused on Stealth, so no.
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>>376617807
Except Campanella was just having fun and wasn't being serious yet he still managed to stall enough for the plan to succeed. Cassius is really strong but Ouroboros can still easily handle him. Even now they still haven't taken anything seriously
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>>376617714
The tanks were steam powered, Osborne had outdated tech ready so he could rush in just when all Liberl's technology stopped working. He was fully ready to invade Liberl.
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>>376617858
Not those tanks...I mean the actual Imperial Army supposing Erebonia made good on its word to Olivert that they would fully intervene in 3 days if Liber Ark wasn't taken care of.

>>376617976
Campanelle's the real MVP and last resort if things go awry.
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>>376617807
>he's also super perceptive

We need someone to rank the intelligence agencies of Zemuria.
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>Buy 3rd evo LE
>will have to buy the original sondtrack because overdosing heavenly bliss original was not surpassed

reeee
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>>376617868
Move Loewe to SSS. Arianrhod and McBurn hyped him up to be really strong. Arianrhod thought he could replace her and McBurn said Loewe could fight on par with him
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>>376618063
Cassius > Almost everyone else

Cassius with knowledge and prep time > Everyone
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>>376617903
>They wouldn't mess with their chances of getting the Aureole by not putting in the effort.
Yeah but they managed to get Aureole and didn't give a fuck about Weissman
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>>376618058
ZCF could have made enough ZFGs to get a division running to hold up the gasoline tank division long enough for reinforcements. After that it'd be a question of diplomatic action/truce or escalation.

But I was referring more to Osborne fishing for an excuse to invase a struggling neighbor using the regular army and its equipment.
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>>376614190
That sounds like a horrifying combination.
Does Crossbell have an equivalent character?
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>>376618146
If i remember right, that was a POTENTIAL he had, if he kept on training, not that he was already at that level.
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>>376618058

Play Star Door 8 in 3rd. There were extremely few steam tanks, not nearly enough to occupy the country.

Osborne's main goal was never to take over Liberl.
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>>376618197
Cassius>Osborne>Campanella?
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>>376618063
Ourobors and the Gralsritter are both high up. It's close, considering Ouroboros didn't know Kevin before SC, but everyone's favourite society probably wins.

All of the others are way down below those two.
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>>376617807
Cassius inhuman perception is by far his biggest asset, in pure swordplay he is inferior to both Arios and Loewe. Source: zero no kiseki
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>>376618197
Cassius isn't an agency. Who gets his intel?
The Bracers don't have a spy network do they?
Liberl doesn't anymore either.
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>>376618253
Arianrhod's claim was about his potential but McBurn clearly said that Loewe was his sparring partner
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>>376618267

Wasn't his goal to show everyone that they "can" invade even if Orbal tech were to cease functioning again.
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nip tiers of strength as of 2015

SS アリアンロード |魔人マクバーン

S1 アリオス シグムント レーヴェ |ヴィクター
S2 カシウス

A1 ケビン ワイスマン マリアベル
A2 ヴァルター キリカ シャーリィ ジン ブルブラン リーシャ ルシオラ レン ワジ |デュバリィ ゼノ レオニダス シャロン ルーファス
A3 ガルシア カンパネルラ クルツ シード ダドリー フィリップ ミュラー モルガン ヨシュア ランディ リシャール |鬼リィン クロウ ナイトハルト ヴァルカン サラ クレア

B1 アガット シェラザード ユリア リース |スカーレット トヴァル オリヴァルト
B2 エステル アネラス カノーネ カルナ グラッツ ノエル ミレイユ ロイド |ラウラ フィー 素リィン アンゼリカ
B3 クローゼ |ガイウス ユーシス エマ パトリック

C1 エリィ ティオ |アリサ マキアス エリオット トワ
C2 キール ディン ドルン レイス ロッコ
C3 ギルバート ジョゼット |エリゼ

D1 ティータ |アルフィン
―――――――――――――――――――――――――――
要検証、もしくは定義不可組
ヴィータ ミリアム アルティナ ロイド
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>>376618303
Sure.

>>376618352
>Cassius isn't an agency.
He may as well be.

>The Bracers don't have a spy network do they?
Either that. Or they went under very heavy reform.
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>>376618358
Duviale sparred with Loewe too you know?
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>>376618223
Because in the end all members are doing things out of their own free will, and Weissman himself realized he was being tested.

He probably got carried away when he fused with the Aureole and all his sadistic theatrics. He probably fucked up somewhere, and got killed for it, so it's not their problem. Not like they could save him anyway, he was already beat and Kevin ambushed him, and Campanella states very clearly he's only there to watch over the events, probably only interfere when necessary. Weissman was an unstable sadist, so he probably saw no reason to stop it.
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Jusis when
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>>376618440
>Either that. Or they went under very heavy reform.
Wait I misread that. Whoops.
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I still can't stop laughing over that "biggest train station in Zemuria with small trains taking you to bigger stations" post about Nord a few threads back.
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>People hying up Cassius "almost killed by an eleven year old" Bright
Enough with the jokes guys
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>>376618497
They'll even have a Valimar Coaster
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Crosbell when?
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>>376618424
Why even care about power level shit?
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>>376618420

As Olivier and Cassius said, it was all about showing the Imperial Army's power as a deterrent.

Even Olivier agrees that the Army hasn't committed a single act of aggression since the war in Liberl. The idea behind the steam tanks is to demonstrate that the army can and will fight under any circumstances.

This kind foresight was enough to make Vita extremely wary of Osborne.
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>>376618586
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>>376618520
That 11 year old was a feared assassin at the time and he likely got the jump on him
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>>376618520
>People underhyping Cassius "I have one of the highest ranked enforcers in Ouroboros helping but I'd still rather not try" Bright himself.
Cassius is humble, Joshua knows he didn't have a prayer.
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>>376618352
Not sure if they have a spy network, but they have informants and a information net. So they do have means of getting intel on sensitive topics.
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When are we getting the Ouroboros trilogy? It would be an easy game but on higher difficulities they can just make you hold back even more power
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>>376618520
>Cassius "bff with a dragon" Bright
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>>376618520
But it's fun.

>almost killed by an eleven year old"
An eleven year old who was an assassin and he still won despite getting caught off guard.
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>>376618608
for about 2 or so years nips would argue about powerlevel in a single thread spamming for more than 1000 replies each

they stopped in 2015 or so, because they got bored

also they were smart enough to only argue about liberl-crossbell characters since mentioning sen would surely bring a shitstorm to the threads
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>>376618709
>We finally get to play as Gilbert and realize his full potential to become an Enforcer.
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>>376618520
Joshua says he was completely trashed with no real chance at all of winning, Cassius is just being humble, or saying that to get Estelle to give up on the idea of finding Joshua fearing for her safety.
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>>376617868
>Joshua as strong as Rean in his ogre mode
I'm on chapter 1 of the first game, don't tell me he's holding back.
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>>376618789
>Gilbert as MC
>Duvalie as the feMC
FUND IT
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>>376618785
Hilarious how much Sen would trigger people back then. It really was like mentioning Star Wars prequels in the middle of an OT discussion
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>>376618795
They both were trying to be humble
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Is it worth it farming those fucks for +3 gear?
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>>376618819
He's not holding back so much as his switch hasn't been flipped yet
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>>376618608
What would you rather discuss? Publishers?
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>>376618819
Joshua unconsciously is
Rean is intentionally holding back
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>>376618709
> It would be an easy game but on higher difficulities they can just make you hold back even more power
Fund it
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>>376596673
No but Tita a cute.
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>>376596740

God bless NISA. They truly are the saviors of gaming.
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>>376618898
The economic state of affairs around Zemuria, and the politics surrounding it's intricate system, good sir.
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>>376618898
i'd love the fuck out of you if you kept sen characters outside tiers like the nips does

the amount of me stronkkkkkkkkk in the erebonia arc is retarded to all hell
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>>376618819
He was hypnotized to hold back or some shit like that.
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>>376618898
Calvard When?
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>>376618819
Rean is strong it's just Sorafags trying to undermine him
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Olivier is still a bad influence on the Vander family.
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>>376619005
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>>376619048
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>>376617158

is Xanadu Next good? I kinda want to buy it
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>>376619048
It's curious isn't it? Mira seems to be a universally accepted currency across the continent.
Who regulates it? How does it balance across so many regions with such vastly different situations?
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>>376619101
rean's strength is a meme among the fanbase
we call him ORETUEEEEEEE because of that, its funny
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Have they shown us playable olivert yet in cs3?
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>>376619176
I'm going to buy it regardless because my VA waifu plays a character in it.
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>>376619101
>false flagging
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I want Erebonia to win and invade shitty nations like Liberl. A nation that lets a moron like Richard do all that shit doesn't deserve to exist
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>>376619150
Who is this guy?
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>>376617807
>which it was, but he still pulled a fast one on him.

Kevin pulled an even faster, and it was hilarious
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>>376618898
Yes.
>XSEED's only working on 2 new titles, both of which will fail spectacularly
>dumped more money into Akiba's Shit than anything they've localized before
>3rd's sales have slowed to a crawl below 10k
>big bad NISA wants Falcom licenses
>smaller companies like Aksys wants Falcom licenses
>XSEED just wants to wallow in self pity and bitch and moan about how unlikely Crossbell is looking for them
>CS ports will be shit, and coupled with the english dub, the game will tank in sales
2017 is the end for XSEED.
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Sen 3 will save the trilogy
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>>376619260
I thought Xanadu Next had no voice?
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>>376619202
>ORETUEEEE
What the hell is that?
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What's an alright level for everyone for the final dungeon? Around 120-130?

Also what's the music that plays in the garden during the final chapter? It reminds me of the music that plays in CS2 in the airship before starting missions.

>>376619176
Yeah it's fun. Sweet & Short.
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>>376619291
Zero is already translated. It's just being edited right now.
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where can you preorder it for the west?
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>>376619270
Samuel Rocksmith, the President of the Republic of Calvard.
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>>376619332
Fuck I thought you meant Tokyo Xanadu for some reason.
My bad.
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>>376618898
What do you guys think the next party will be in?

We've had bracers, Special Support, Student/Military. A bit of Gralsritter.

What next? A full on Gralsritter duo/trilogy from new squire and up? Rocksmith's? Jaeger's?
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>>376619182
It will be revealed to them that they are in a video game.
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>>376616774

No they weren't, when Cid and Richard appeared to stop the kidnapping of the Queen in SC they backed off pretty quick, and there was no reason to hold back at that point.

If anything the Enforcers that were deployed during the Liberl incident were pretty shit tier.
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>>376618795
The fact that he played Ouroboros and Joshua's disappearance up so hard to discourage Estelle from her quest shows he's a rather lousy parent, though he apologized afterward and gave her the green light to drag Joshua back home. Whatever the case, Joshua getting first strike on Cassius wouldn't ever have worked.

Ouroboros game still needs to happen. It'd satisfy the Legend of Heroes IV fans working at Falcom since they know it'll be ages before they make a game where you play Rutice from the side of the Heretics.

>>376619176
The game's really good, just don't expect something as challenging as Ys of that period. It's more about exploration, some puzzles, learning a variety of skills from weapons, kiting enemies and backstabbing them for crits, and a light but really good story with lots of background.

Also has maybe the best final dungeon in a Falcom action game (in terms of layout, theme, and combat).

>>376619265
Alicia would have kept it under control if her military weren't corrupt and if a certain Bladelord and Anguis weren't mucking around.

>>376619332
He's thinking of Tokyo Xanadu...which isn't even a Xanadu game.
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>>376619352
its a way to make fun of retardedly written, light novel characters
it translates roughly as "me stronkkkkkkkkkkkkk"
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>>376619390
Oh and I forgot to mention it's a fan translation
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>>376619291
Nice headcanon faggot
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>>376618898

Something something NISA something XSeed
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Since my first post was rather vaugue, I was talking about Joshua when I asked if he was holding back. I've already played CS 1 and 2 and I know is pretty damn strong when he wants to be but Joshua seems to be about as strong as Estelle so the difference was surprising. Will I see some of his actual strength in the first game or will I have to play the other 2?
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>>376619182
Arteria? A powerful religious organisation with global presence doesn't sound like a far-fetches candidate for controlling the monetary situation.
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>>376619397
I thought Japanese Amazon did imports now?
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>>376618520

Joshua himself said that Cassius toyed with him like a Lion does with its cubs.
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>>376619302
>Agate and Olivier are confirmed to be researching the truth behind Hamel to put shit on Osborne
A week ago I wouldn't believe you but with the new info, yeah I'll believe it.
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>>376619461
Lucciola's summons are more problematic than her.
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>>376619434
I hope Calvard is basically a gang of Yakuza who get pulled into the mix. Just criminals and low lifes.
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>>376619390

Hasn't XSeed used a fan translation before? I wonder if they'll do that again.
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>>376619510
Pay attention. Everyone constantly mentions how bad Estelle is compared to Joshua
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>>376619563
No they will be monks instead.
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>>376619469
Huh, so even japs think he's a meme? I thought they loved him since he ranks high in polls.
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>>376619470
And you forgot to mention that the whole translation is being redone from scratch by people who actually speak the language, meaning NEVER EVER being released. At least we'll get all future LoH titles, courtesy of NISA.
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>>376619434
Rocksmith's agency.

Playable Kilika pls.
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>>376619427
Well there's also a loli in Tokyo Xanadu. I hope she's playable because she's cute.
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>>376619563

Nope it's going to be Calvard Highschool.
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>>376619461
Loewe, Walter, and Renne are pretty good to send out.

Bleublanc just likes trolling people but he's competent while Luciola is the weakest one
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>>376619510
Play the game anon, stop asking questions and wanting to get spoiled. You'll see the extent of it as you go along.
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>>376619368
>What's an alright level for everyone for the final dungeon? Around 120-130?

Kevin's section is the only remotely difficult section and the only one you need a well put together team for. The rest of the sections are filled with easy enemies full of experience plus chests that drop gear tailored to whatever party you have. Just be sure to have at least one decent character in each of the three sub-teams. Even Agate with Wild Rage 2 works.

>>376619368
>Also what's the music that plays in the garden during the final chapter? It reminds me of the music that plays in CS2 in the airship before starting missions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=robYHoHOFK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHf7MUSiES4
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>>376619651
They love him and meme him at the same time. Japanese culture is different.
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>>376619434
I think we'll get either a Jaeger dropout of some sort or secret police/intelligency agency under direct control of Calvard's president. They mentioned Calvard being a damn mess when it comes to making decisions, so a unit like that is something Rocksmith could probably use.
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>>376619562

Luciola was just one huge fucking joke that Campanella probably had more laughs with then Gilbert. She was pathetic through and through, both as an Enforcer and as a woman.
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>>376619645
Well like I said I'm not actually that far into the game, I'm just talking about their similar levels and stats.
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COLD STEEL 3 IS BEING LOCALIZED BY NISA
SCREENCAP THIS
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>>376619660
Rocksmith's have been next for two sub-series now. Maybe this time.
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>>376619760
For plot reasons Joshua is holding back
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>>376619703
Don't worry, it will be a Calvard middle school, where you play as an Isekai Loli who's actually a magical girl.
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>>376619660
>Play as Rocksmith's ICE agents
>deport nords
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>>376619651
The ones who like him are likely underage
The ones who meme him hate him
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>>376618487
When he marries the Nep.

>>376618497
I want it to be a big shopping mall with a Ashen Knight theme park in it.
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>>376619706
That's probably for the best anon but I can't curb my curiosity. I'm just really looking forward to the rest of the games.
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>>376619461
>Loewe
>Shit tier
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>>376619182
Probably the church, it feels that it's the only organization that could get everyone to agree on one currency.
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I hated FC and SC. Is third chapter different enough (more combat driven) to justify buying? Combat and character story were the only things I liked about Trails.
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>>376619794
Well holding back is not entirely accurate, more like being held back.
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>>376619720
Thanks for the great answer senpai.

I'm loving the soundtrack and I'm really happy to get to listen the original tracks from this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzFTGYa_evXhlCb7z6Z72AQR9BhyIjOK3
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>>376619703
Nah, come on. The Jack story sets up those criminal gangs, Won sounds like he's probably some Triad motherfucker from the Eastern Quarter.
That's a great excuse for some antics if I ever heard one.

Assume that since high school has been done already it won't again.
I know that's a stretch.
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So uh.
What's stopping literally any random nobody from stumbling upon Loewe's mind-bogglingly strong sword in Hamel?
What's stopping fucking Anton from grabbing it for shits and giggles and becoming the target of Ouroboros?
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>>376619925
Only Lucciola is truly shit tier. How the fuck did she get to join?
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>>376620006
It's pure dungeon crawler with enemies dropping super good equipment from time to time, and doors that reveal more about the characters pasts, other interactions and lore about the world in general. So yeah.
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>>376619760
My experiences gameplay wise are that Estelle isn't a bad unit, she has some solid varied crafts. But her orbment isn't the best layout and she doesn't specialize.

Like, my standout unit in three games so faris Joshua with CP accessories to spam his all-target S-crafts. Estelle doesn't have that for me. She tends to be some weird utility whatever-er, with some support arts to work with her crafts.
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I just realized that Reverie was holding back too. I guess even the ancients had the same problem
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>>376619510
>>376619907
Joshua is part of Ouroboros, so is Professor Alba/Weissmann who is manipulating him. At the end of the first game he leaves the party.
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>Sen 3 goes in hard on crossbell
>gets localized anyway
>people end up getting spoiled harder on what happened
>end up playing the crossbell games without actually playing them

I guess it all worked out
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>>376619885
Please don't compare millium to my cute wife nepnep. She's a lousy imitation at best
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>>376619735
People take things too seriously around here.
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>>376620010
>"senpai" is filtered to "senpai"
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>>376620056
I wonder how much hate Rean will get if from the fanbase if he gets the sword(probably temporarily).
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>>376620006
Cold Steel has way better combat so you should try it out when it gets released in Summer
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>>376620059
Mind rape magic.
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>>376620087
You're such an asshole
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>>376620006
>Hated FC and SC
>Want to buy 3rd

What the fuck anon
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>>376620056
Hamel is cordoned off by the Imperial Army.
No one is allowed near.
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>>376620107
Nep is shit.
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>>376620059
>Lucciola
She fucked her way into the position.
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>>376620152
I did not think this through.
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>>376620056
Nobody want to go to the location formerly known as Hamel because it's a destroyed shithole.
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>>376620156
Take however much hate he had at the exact moment before it's even hinted at, then double the hate for every single hint.

Triple it when he actually gets the sword.
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>>376620056
Agate will be investigating Hamel again in CS3
>Implying we won't discover the sword has disappeared
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So how much do you think the dragon was holding back?
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>>376619925

Loewe only has his swordsmanship going on, he can wreck pretty much anyone that isn't Cassius, but he lacks emotional intelligence and awareness, hence why Joshua was able to pull a fast one on him during Estelle's escape on the Glorious and why he refuses to choose another path for his life, even though Renne,
who went through much worse shit than him,
was strong enough to let go and start anew.
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>>376620107
>Lousy imitation
Even Millium's half-assed development in CS2 was more favorable than just memes
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>>376620152
It's been that way for a few years now to be honest family.
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>>376620056
To add to Hamel not even existing on the map, Loewe's sword drives it's user insane if they don't have the mental strength for it.
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>>376620070
You mean by comparison to the ones described in the data crystals?

I think that's just a matter of how long it's been sitting around. It probably stayed far too long waiting, maybe got some parts rusted.

Or are you talking about something else? Cause i don't think the Reveries were THAT strong if there was a decently strong group to fight it.
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>>376620056
Probably because only Loewe tier people can actually use the thing well
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>>376619764

NISA isn't retarded. The only likely thing I see NISA doing is picking up the Calvard arc. What idiotic publisher would pickup the third game in a series? Ys doesn't count because they can all be played standalone.
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>>376620238
Anton ended up in weirder places.
>>376620331
Really? I must've missed it, or is it a door in 3rd?
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>>376620384
It's part of Loewe's manga
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>>376620156
I already boil just by thinking of nu-Falcom soiling Tita and Agate's characters (I hope it doesnt happen)

If these cucks pull shit like this I'm done with the series forever.
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>>376620235
I invested a good month or two playing through the first two, waiting for the game to really open up and pay off, which I never felt it did. I'd really like for my investment to pay off. I realize it's not a popular opinion but there it is.
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>>376620241
Take your shit taste elsewhere friendo.
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>>376618453
That is what Dobully thinks.
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>>376620384
>Really? I must've missed it, or is it a door in 3rd?
Manga
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>>376620331
>The next games last boss is some schmuck driven insane by the power of some freaky sword that can cut anything.
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>>376620309
> Renne who went through much worse shit than him
>She suffered more than him so his suffering doesn't matter
Besides Loewe did suffer more than her.
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>>376620006
You liked the combat, the characters and the story but you hated the game? What's even left to hate, dude? The graphics?
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>>376620445
Well now I want to see you assblasted anon. I want to see a post filled with hate.
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>>376620238
In the manga Loewe and Joshua went to visit the place and only then he figured out they covered everything to make it look like a landslide destroyed everything. Also Joshua and Estelle at the end of SC?

I don't think it's barred off, especially since it's not even on the maps anymore.
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>>376619423
Kilika's gonna have to refuse his dick so many times in the Calvard arc.

>>376619291 (You)

>implying 3rd has to sell that much in a week when it can spur FC/SC sales
>XSEED is only Hatsuu on a bad day after Ys VIII's announcement, *surely* can't have a bunch of other projects they're announcing at E3
>already deciding the ports are shit when PhyreEngine makes it stupidly easy to port to PC
>thinks Akiba's Beat (and what other title) will bankrupt a company with a lot of savings piled up after their PC boom
>CS PC more likely to help XSEED keep Trails than lose it, and there will be an undub

Assuming you're even right, they'll die in 2018 or 2019, not this year. But no, you haven't substantiated this stuff with anything but doomsday-ing.

>>376619703
Actually it could just be working for the Rocksmith Agency and helping regular people out in order to have an alibi. There's a Star Door building up Calvard this way.

>>376619610
It's actually feasible to do this, but only if they get permission from and properly credit the fan translators/editors. Even then you'd get NightWolve and his friends bitching and even wanting revenge on the company by begging NISA or someone else while ignoring those companies' flaws.

>>376619750
Schera's gonna BTFO Luci one day.

>>376620056
The sword's broken, and it's lost its Divergent Laws powers by now because of that. Also, what the others have said.

>>376620041
Seriously, Gambler Jack's whole purpose is to show how seedy parts of Calvard are. This also comes up in Crossbell, but I'm betting Calvard's where the majority of China-style secret societies and martial arts sects do their work.

>>376620070
No it wasn't. That was the only Reverie that reached the inner Lakeside Facility, and the Auslese clan demobilized it and hid it as a deterrent to anyone trying to open the Ahnenburg seal.

>>376620123
Easy to take it easy when you have no idea who you want to be, Lechter.

>>376620367
Anon's memeing, Reverie's ez-pz.
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>>376620367
After the party "defeated" Reverie it just got back up again and would have killed them is Cassius didn't show up
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>>376620304
That one made sense since the dragon was probably trying to fight the gospel controlling it.
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So the 3rd game is just one giant final dungeon?
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>>376620325
Nepnep is

>cuter
>funnier
>stronger
>lewder
>Also has a super sexy goddess form
Shit-tier nep wannabes named millium can't compare
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What if CS3 isn't localized
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>>376620521
>Besides Loewe did suffer more than her.

No, he didn't?
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>>376620226
Never should have come here.
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>>376620526
No the story was awful, not epic and riddled with tropes and cliches. I was banking on an epic, innovative RPG that didn't deliver in that department at all. But I kept playing just to give the game a fair chance.
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>>376620498
>>
Who do I bring to nightmare arena for special rewards?
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>>376619703
You mean calvard idol group.
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>>376620667
She's literally meant to be waifubait and be a meme.

She's literally a product, not a character
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>>376620475
The 3rd is basically an fanservice exposition dump combined with a dungeon crawler. You won't find your payoff if you hated the games in the first place.

You should know better than to get sequels of games you didn't like
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>>376620685
Just how did Renne suffer more than Loewe?
>>
Xseed is here. Say something nice about her.
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>>376620857
All that and she's still better than millium because millium is just a lousy imitation
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>>376620859
I usually wouldn't but page after page of steam and GOG 5 star reviews convinced me otherwise.
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Is Falcom really gonna do it?
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>>376620557
I think Olivier mentioned using his authority to give Joshua and Estelle access to Hamel.
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>>376620883

being drugged, tortured used as cocksleeve for years as a child by some cult surely is much worse than anythign Loewe went through
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>>376620967
The only people who bought 3rd are people who liked the series in the first place or people who went and impulse bought the series when they found out the 3rd was coming out
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>>376620971

McBurn is voiced by Suwabe, and he probably does have fire for blood.
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>>376620557
Joshua could've easily sneaked them in but yeah honestly what's the point of keeping guard on a place that is nothing more than the ugly remains of a "landslide"? It's not like there's any evidence left there, they probably raked the place multiple times 10 years ago to make sure no evidence will remain before dropping the mother of all earth arts on it.
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>>376620971
Am I the only one who likes Sen II's interface better?
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>>376620475
Cold Steel and Crossbell are the good Kiseki games. TitS ranged from mediocre to decent. I seriously hope you didn't fall for the Estelle is the greatest protagonist ever thing that people hear like to say. You probably would have liked TitS better if you ignored the people who overhype it.
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>>376620967
The good reviews are from people who liked the games, if a bunch of people call a game five stars, and you don't like it. Why would you think the same people calling the sequel five stars for the same reasons means you would like it?
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>>376620958
Millium serves as character that explains something about the 13 workshops and going through the usual artificial human learning what complex emotions are, I'll take that over memes.
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>>376620971
They're going to make him as powerful as mcburn aren't they?
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>>376621045
>muh rape
Seriously man
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>>376621034
Yes, during his door in 3.
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>>376621073
McFaggot also has literally Rean's hairstyle except with an overgrown mullet. Timetraveling Rean confirmed?
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>>376621086 (You)
The only mediocre Kiseki game is Sen II.
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>>376621073

Suwabe's voice is pure sex
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>>376620059
For shit and giggles, just like Gilbert.
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>>376620569
>Calvard's where the majority of China-style secret societies and martial arts sects do their work.
Yeah, I want them to be the focus of the Calvard arc too. It's the most different of anything prior.
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>>376620883
Loewe lost his village and his waifu, like, once.

Renne got multiple personalities to cope with severe trauma, then lost them to yet more trauma.
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>>376621242
It'd also be cool to meet Jack and Halle in some remote part of the country (they've hid because the book's popular and they'd rather gamble in peace than sign autographs).
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>>376621149
Man. Leowe had it hard but let's not pretend that Renne's stuff wasn't suffering incarnate.
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>>376621176
I said it ranged from mediocre(FC) to decent (SC). Besides people do overhype TitS and the people who fall for it always end up hating it.
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>>376621095
McBurn is future Rean after all.
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>>376621278
>>376620883
ayo lads, this pissing contest is pure autism
just sayin
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>>376621095
Probably. Kondo apparently said sometime ago that Rean is supposed to be the prodigy out of all the protagonists.
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>>376621278
>Had to suck some old man cock
>Bad
Pick one.
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>>376596673
I hope nothing bad happens to Agate in this game. The ending of SC where Tita thinks Estelle died was awful.
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I don't know how we get to "Renne put her old life behind her unlike Loewe" without adding "it took her THREE ENTIRE GAMES to do so" while Loewe was operating on nothing but despair and hopelessness ever since Hamel.
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>>376621392
ayo, ayo lad, are you black?
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>>376621443
ORETUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>376621383
>Besides people do overhype TitS and the people who fall for it always end up hating it
Those people deserve it for believing such blatant lies.
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>>376620445
>nu-Falcom
I hate you so much.
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>>376621443

つええええええええええええええええええええええええええええ
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>>376621383
>a guy who believes Cold Steel is better than Sky tells something about overrated games
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>>376621242
>tfw we get warring martial arts schools in Calvard
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>>376621391

But Rean is a Oni, not a Flame Demon
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>>376620971
I don't mean Rean going ALL OF ME if it means we get some more insight on what the fuck it actually is. Rean might be a bad character but I want to know what his powers are for the lore and possible Osborne connections.

>376621085
I think Sen 3's looks cleaner which is pretty nice.

>>376621176
I liked Sen 2 more than Sen 1 because it felt less restrictive and some parts were better paced. I like almost all installments equally for different reasons though.
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>>376621475
Not to mention the other guy from Hamel got the easy way out while he had to actually deal with his issues
>>
The quality of the written dialogue alone makes Sky superior to Cold Steel. Cold Steel saw a regression in that area and now it just reads like any other JRPG. Not saying it's bad but it will never stand out the way TiTS does.
>>
I like all Kiseki installments mostly equally
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>>376621605
>a guy who fell for the estelle meme trying to justify his purchase
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>>376621483
YAMETE KUREEEEEEEEEE
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>>376621617
Valimar upgraded him into an Ash Fiend, so he gets Fire powers now too.
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>>376621629
>Rean might be a bad character but I want to know what his powers are for the lore and possible Osborne connections.

Well Falcom did say that this is the game that will resolve Rean's story so I think they do have to explain just what his powers are.
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>>376621717
good for you lad
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>>376621443
He said Rean is "special" before the first sen, which is a hilarious choice of words.
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>>376621734
But ash can't burn.
That's how he'll defeat McBurn
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>>376621717
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>>376621605
Well the combat is more engaging which is a huge plus. It's video game so I want to the combat to be good. FC was just White Gehenna spam but I'll admit SC was a huge improvement because I actually had to use other things. Also I rated SC at the same level as Cold Steel.
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>>376621629
>I like almost all installments equally
And there's nothing wrong with it. I like all of the games in the series, too, it's just Sen II has more problems that any other Kiseki imo.
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>>376621734
but valimar is the divine knight of time.
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>>376621693
>Tomboy romance
>stand out
Pick one.
>>
>>376621717
Bad anon, you have to hate at least one arc. Also, do nit forget to use nu-Falcom.
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>>376621717
Where do you live? I think I feel like beating the shit out of you.
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>>376621734

So Rean really is like Kevin in the end, stigma and demon power bullshittery everywhere.

Kevin punished sinners and heretics and the wicked.

Do you know what the Oni did in Hell?

>They become the ogreish and brutal servants of Great Lord Enma, ruler of Hell, wielding iron clubs with which they crush and destroy humans solely for enjoyment. An oni’s job is to mete out horrible punishments such as peeling off skin, crushing bones, and other torments too horrible to describe to those who were wicked
>>
>>376621910
He will rewind the ashes to make them burn again!
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>>376621841
Well, no one denies that Sen has better combat, even if the games are easy as hell to break. Writing is the problem.
>>
>>376621834
In retrospect, maybe this would have been a more fitting choice for Duvalie's "serves you right" in that one comic.
>>
>>376621554
He probably thinks Kondo is the source of literally everything at Falcom, too.

>>376621693
Cold Steel's banter and NPC stories are still great, just not the character development.

>>376621841
SC and 3rd both suffer from Arts bloat but the Crafts, food items, and diversity between fighters makes everything fun to mess with. 3rd also has enough challenge to keep me interested (and dem drops).
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>>376621841
Cold Steel's combat is garbage compared to TitS. Kill yourself Reanfag
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>>376621930
Leman State.
HMU when you're ready.
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>>376622016
>He probably thinks Kondo is the source of literally everything at Falcom, too.
he probably knows more than an EOP like you desu senpai
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>>376621717
It goes like this for me

>FC
Loved everything about it overall but I couldn't be assed to care about Schera, Zin, or Agate. Thankfully, SC fixes that.
>SC
With the issue with character development fixed, the only problem I had with it were the Enforcer of the week chapters.
>CS1
I liked the interaction but the obvious as day lack of real development and Rean's shitty self-loathing was annoying. The end reveal was pretty entertaining though
>CS2
Most entertaining combat I've experienced in the series thus far but it's mostly a rehashed SC with going around the territory again finding ores in shrines. Retaking Thors was pretty shit but I enjoyed particular character arcs like Jusis. Infernal Castle's last section with the 4-stage boss fight was enjoyable.
>>
>>376621834
Duvalie's english voice was surprisingly good, really.
>>
>>376621841
I don't think anyone here actually likes FC on it's own. It's just a hurdle to get to the superior SC
>>
>>376621278

Wait those other kids were all her other personalities?
>>
When's Laura?
>>
>>376621443
Joshua actually felt much more like a prodigy, Rean is average in both intelligence and skill and just happens to be the magical chosen one.
>>
>>376622127
>I don't think anyone here actually likes FC on it's own
Speak for yourself retard
>>
>>376621391
I really hope this is true. It is so stupid but somehow I want it. I actually like how ridiculous McBurn is as a character, and I feel like Rean has had it too good, he needs to go through some shit in CS III.
>>
>>376622119
It was spot on. All the other actors should be ashamed.
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>>376622119
Deserves an award
>>
Didn't Falcom mention the trails before Calvard will take place in some other area? Sorta like 3rd.
>>
>>376621149
Loewe only dealt with one big loss

Renne had to deal with abuses of all variety on daily basis for years.
>>
>>376622197
Never mind there is someone with shit taste
>>
>>376622201
Yeah, because losing your friend for a stupid reason, becoming a tool of the government to oppress innocent people and then being left behind by your friends is not enough suffering.
>>
>>376622127
Nah, it does certain things better than SC (introducing new areas, not being as formulaic in the first half, more down-to-earth villain plot, &c). The music's not as good and I think SC's better by virtue of its higher highs, but FC does a great job on its lonesome.

>>376622273
No mention of a gaiden game happening after Sen III, not yet.
>>
>>376622273
There is a possibility for a buffer game, but it hasn't been confirmed yet.
>>
>>376596673
I prefer drawn portraits. That pseudo 3d makes facial expressions impossible. They look like puppets.
>>
>>376622194
>Joshua actually felt much more like a prodigy

Joshua's entire being except for his body is entirely artificial thanks to Weissman

He isn't a natural prodigy by any means.
>>
>>376622306
>and then being left behind by your friends
Dafuq? It was rean doing all the WE MUST GO OUR SEPARATE WAYS bullshit not everyone else. He even dumped his waifu after confessing to her.
>>
>>376622306
>oppress innocent people

The fuck are you talking about?
>>
>>376622148
The bit roles like Laura will be revealed after all the important, half-important and slightly important characters have been revealed.
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>>376622494
go play crossbell you pleb
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>>376622221
Cayenne's voice actor is also pretty good for his role.
>>
>>376622342

I really hope they go back to those in CS3 or Calvard.
>>
>>376622419
>He even dumped his waifu after confessing to her
Why didn't you bond with Jusis? Why would you waste it on those garbage waifu characters
>>
>>376622494
Try playing the game faggot.
>>
>>376622576
Jusis anon please.
>>
>>376622576
Because I'm not a fag or a fujoshit
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>>376622306
becoming a tool of the government to oppress innocent people and then being left behind by your friends is not enough suffering
I really hope they play up this angle.I hope his new students hate him too.

>>376622419
This. His situation is completely his fault and his decision.
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>>376622576
Technically, Rean had no idea he would actually fail and play a pawn in Ozzy's game
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>>376622132
Yup, mainly hinted at by all of them being so determined to protect her and then all but stated toward the end when she's asked if she's going to meet the next client as one of her characters, describing the other kids in broad terms.

They were other personalities in her mind that she made to try and ignore all of the rape. Except they started dying because her mind was still breaking.
>>
I wonder if Sen 3 releasing will make these threads a bit slower
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>>376622306
>Rean
>oppress innocent people
Come on he was nice enough to hold back against Lloyd and not kill him. What more could you ask of the guy
>>
>>376622549
>>376622596

You can't even name one "innocent" person Rean has ever laid his hands on, get the fuck out of here with your stale meme
>>
>>376622686
>>I really hope they play up this angle.I hope his new students hate him too.
You are in luck, his new students seem to hate him as Rean basically ruined their lives.
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>>376622638
I'm not a fag but Jusis is the only one from Class VII with a real character arc
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>>376621831
>hfw
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>>376622747
i can barely name a thing that happened in sen games

forgettable, trash only plebs like
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>>376622792
Yes it seems that way for sure, I am worried that he will change their mind and they will all bond with the power of friendship and Rean's LN protagonist charm.
>>
>>376622792
The guys are jealous and the girls are Tsunderes
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>>376622846

>plebs = more sales
> more sales = more kiseki

Not a bad thing.
>>
>>376622846
You could be honest and just say that you don't play Trails games and just desperately want to troll the threads

It's /v/, it happens all the time. You get street cred for honesty.
>>
Reminder that muse wants to join his harem so it's not like they all hate him
>>
>>376622953
back to gamefaqs with you
>>
>>376622374
Neither of them are natural. But that's irrelevant, talent is talent no matter if it's from your genes or the experiments by JRPG bad guy.
>>
>>376622953
Sorafags always shit on Sen.
>>
>>376622306
I imagine the Northen War segments of Sen 3 will have a fair amount of suffering for Rean plus his students hating him at the start and everything.
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>>376622902
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried
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>>376622885
Oh no, they will end up liking him, I mean they are a party and Rean has to win his students somehow.
>>
>>376622792

I hope you're not actually saying that the new characters absolutely believe in collective guilt by association and are self righteous and hypocritical about it?
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>>376623064
>implying she isn't on osbourne's payroll
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>>376623018
I think the point is that Joshua isn't really a prodigy, he got skills inserted into him but doesn't really advance at a prodigal rate. He learns and improves about as fast as Estelle, maybe even slower in some fields. He just started on a much higher level.
>>
>>376623081
Not like they know anything about what Rean actually went through. He's been built up as the HERO OF THE EMPIRE and Osborne's dog. Vanders lost their job because of it and Crossbell is under his thumb.
>>
>>376623136
meant for >>376622981
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>>376622885
They will end up liking Rean, but it will take time. I can easily imagine a segment where Rean goes full ogre and his students then take off to save him.
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>>376623136
Muse a cute! CUTE!
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