What are some side characters you unexpectedly grew to love?

>>376596403
I haven't done his s-link because I didn't really care for the perks he gives, am I missing something/just plain retarded?

>>376596451
Doing his confidant lets you:
- get more money from negotiations
- get rare items from negotiation
- sometimes instantly recruit shadows
- recruit shadows that are a higher level than you

>>376596451
He gives really good perks, though. Extended negotiation chains are the second best way to get money in the game, and the ability to recruit a persona without negotiating is a godsend sometimes.

>>376596403
helping him out always made me feel like i was doing something good

No-Good Tora is a best
>>376596451
some pretty good negotiation skills, one can let you recruit higher level shadows

>>376596403
They should've made him actually guilty of embezzlement. Instead he comes out as a good guy who did nothing wrong in the end.
Actually, that was a problem with almost every character in P5 - they were all too nice, not enough flaws, no conflicts between them.

>>376596516
Yeah that's what I thought, doesn't seem to impressive really. Already maxed strength out so just pay to fuse high level stuff

>>376596558
But he straight out admits that he WAS a dick 20 years ago since two of his three "strikes" were him being a brash, young, dickish idiot. The embezzlement wasn't his fault, but he still wasted money on vacations, called voters idiots and probably did other dumb shit too.

>>376596403
You can negotiate high-level personas to join you, and his Confidant gives three Charm notes per visit, making it easy to max out rather than going to the bathhouse every Mon or Thu.

>>376596565
>>376596516
Not a level higher than you.
ANY level higher than you.

>>376596636
This. He was flawed, he knew he messed up and his whole thing was after all this time, one can try to fix their life if they stand by their ideals and not let their mistakes hold them back.

>>376596636
Being a dick is not a crime though.

Jansen

NO GOOD TORA

>>376596760
It isn't, but spending government money on personal vacations is. He was still a bad person 20 years ago, even if he didn't embezzle.

>>376596403
his Confident abilitys are high tier.
easy as fuck to level up with
sun personas are high tier
is japaness barnie sanderds that is not a sell out.

genuine good guy.

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Felt like I was playing Yakuza 0 or something with each level of his confidant

>>376596952
>need 3 or something guts to start his s-link
>don't have that until later half of the game
>finally get to it, can modify guns but they're all too high level for the customizations

why

>>376596952
I want a FEMC route just so I can suck his old grey dick.

>>376596729
those sp trickets are a good send.

>>376596952
>yakuza
>deals in toy guns
Why does Japan always have to be like this?
You can have dick-demons, kill gods, drive schoolkids to suicide, but when it comes to weapons it's "lol, they're not real".

Same shit happened in AA:DD where a fucking inmate working as an active prosecutor deemed realistic enough, but him bringing a real sword into the courtroom was not.

>>376597079
this. i want him to be my daddy

>>376597125

Because Japan isn't like the United States and acquiring a real firearm there is next to impossible.

Is that really so hard for you to understand?

>>376597125
Tight as hell gun laws in japan. And to be honest, toy guns fits Iwai. He's retired and wants to live a quiet life so he runs a shop for hardcore enthusiasts, so he won't be bothered by a lot of people.

>>376597125
He's not Yakuza anymore. He's running a legit business

>>376597185
He's part of the Yakuza which do have guns.

>>376597346
He's a FORMER yakuza, silly anon.

>>376597193
>>376597240
Aren't the real yakuza people are after his toy guns as well?
>>376597185
They're fucking yakuza, they don't give a fuck about gun control laws. Is that really so hard for you to understand?

>>376597383
>Aren't the real yakuza people are after his toy guns as well?
They want him to modify real guns for him, dummy.

>>376597383
The real yakuza want him to make toy guns that look as real as possible for a scam, from what I understood.

>>376597429
>modify toy guns so they'd look real
>modify real guns so they'd look like toys
Genius!

>>376597346
>>376597383

He's a former Yakuza, first of all.

Secondly, why would someone trying to run a legitimate business hold onto any illegal paraphernalia like a real firearm when the police are already all over them for their past and the fact they're trying to sell fake ones?

Even if he DID have real guns, why would he hand them off to teenagers?

I really don't think you understand how strict Japan is about guns. It's really not as simple as "well, he's a criminal so he should have guns".

>>376597185
there seem to be plenty of guns in muh yakuza games tho

>>376597678
Because the yakuza are, surprisingly, criminals
(and active ones to boot. iwai's a retired yakuza)

>>376597478
guess thats why in game guns are not as powerful as cutscene guns in yakuza

>>376597536
I'm saying why didn't they make him a real yakuza with real guns in the first place?

>>376597678
What part of retired yakuza does not equate waka gashira yakuza.

Japan's gun laws are serious shit, even the yakuza in games are exaggerated in their use of guns. It's simply not that easy to get a gun unless you grease a fuckton of palms.

>>376597918
This is a kids game

>>376597918
Because the whole point is that he's retired and doesn't want to get pulled back into that bullshit anymore?

>>376597918
because he has an adopted kid and he doesnt want to be a bad influence

>>376597950
It literally isnt.

>>376597918
Because that would be stupid and not as realistic.

>>376596451
>not wanting the rare items from negotiation skill that lets you get skill cards half the time

>>376598010
But it's M rated.
>>376598010
Again, I'm not talking about the final product.

>>376597536

Are you fucking stupid? In one of his slink events his yakuza friend points a real gun at him. Yakuza don't go around shooting rivals from the get-go because of cultural reasons and wanting to maintain a low-profile, but they are armed.

>>376598074
Maybe they, surprisingly, wanted to make a confidant be the story of some former yakuza that didn't want to get dragged back into the business?

So I just got I to June.

What's with the guy that wanted pancakes or some shit he was weird.

>>376597918
Because they wanted a retired yakuza?

>>376598173
He's a charming young man who wishes to exact justice.

>>376598173
You mean Goro Adachi?

>le yakuza have no guns irl in japan xD
This happened today

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/05/11/chiba-cops-yakuza-wounded-after-shooting-in-matsudo/
Go search the archive for "gun" and you'll see many news reports of police finding gun stashes in yakuza hideouts.

>>376598260
Yes
>>376598237
Idk he's got a huge boner for justice, although I completely agree with him.

>>376598276
I think only idiots are saying the Yaks dont have guns, the entire point of Iwai's link is that his friend tried to buy guns from a group in hong kong and got screwed over so in desperation tried to get Iwai to give him realistic looking fake guns to try to con his way out of the hole he dug.

But just because the Yakuza have guns doesnt mean that Iwai has them. The dudes done with that life, he has a kid now. He went legit.

>>376597918
Because giving you real guns is a super fucking dark implication and makes Iwai go from a sympathetic former criminal and father struggling to break free of his past (the theme of the game) into a gun peddling jackass willing to sell to kids?

>>376598552
I'd say a gun peddling jackass would make a better SLink.

>>376596403
Jackie from sleeping dogs, thought he was a fag at first and then a brother

>>376598142
Plus they wanted to pull a cognition thing with guns to reaffirm the concept at the start because it's kinda cool, and to make sure the Ryujis of the real world understand.

>>376598653
I'd say you're a huge faggot

>>376598653
I'd say never write stories, ever, because that is untrue.

>>376598720
My sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.
>>376598791
There are way too many boring nice guy confidants in P5.

>>376596403
zelos from symphonia. thought at first he was a jackass but it turns out he had a pretty hard Life. than when he saved everyone and broke his deal with mithos, made him an eternal bro for me.

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>People don't do his social link

>>376596565
Yes, that's what I thought too, and the sun arcana is usually a bit of a pisser in my opinion too.

We were and you are horribly mistaken. You could not be more wrong. Negotiation chains are the most broken thing in the game, even compared to tentafaroo on the right bosses (and this is less broken only because you have to find the right ones, but not really and its still broken as fuck)

He breaks the game harder than /po/-man, he breaks the game harder than being a filthy whore and getting the DLC summons, in fact he facilitates abusing the DLC summons to trick out and itemize anything and everything because money is literally no object.

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>>376597114
Trust me, this image would be hilarious if you could actually see it and are at least thirty, and British.

>>376598843
Post nipple.

>>376598843
So your solution is to make an unlikable sack of shit?

>>376598695
>>376598142
>>376598074
>>376598010
Guys let's forget the gun thing for a moment and talk about what actually matters.

Why can't he be smoking an actual cigarette?

>>376601194
Because his whole deal is trying to lead a good example for his son, so he quit smoking? He explains this somewhere.

>>376601194
He probably quit because of his kid. Dojima smoked.

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>>376601278
To me it seems like they're implying smoking with the lollipop. It'd be pretty weird to have a grown man be constantly seen sucking on a lollipop otherwise.

>>376597185
You got real weapons from the police in P3 tho, kek

>>376601471
Not really, former smokers often suck on cigarette like objects because they need to do something with their mouths and fingers. My dad stopped smoking after he had me, he still sometimes has his pen in his mouth when he's doing nothing at all that requires a pen.

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>>376596403
shame that p4 sun link was bad

>>376601540
Show me a single police department on the planet that sells broadswords.

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>>376596403
>Confidant thread
>"All Good In The Hood" Tora on the OP
Good shit.

>>376601471
This isn't 4kids anon.
Lolipops are a good way to quit smoking since they fulfill the same physical desires as keeping your hand and mouth busy with a cig. That's a thing literally everywhere all over the world

>>376597125
Probably because the game is set in the real world and you can't buy real guns in Japan like you do in US?

>>376601623
Didnt he say that selling swords under the table was easier than guns since nobody looks that closely at a few missing antiques?

>>376601586
>Liking this faggot with his faggot crocodile

>>376601548
>>376601670
Alright I guess I'll take your guys word for it. I don't think I've ever known someone who successfully quit smoking so I can't really argue.

The lollipop thing really does look kind of goofy to me for a guy who's supposed to be a badass.

I thoroughly enjoyed Yusuke's social link, initially thought he was a bad party member but now he's my favourite

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>>376601789
>Talking shit about Akinari

>>376601801
I think it adds some charm. I guess a toothpick would look "tougher."

>>376601801
Its just a bit of visual storytelling anon. You know the whole 'I left being a badass behind to take care of this crack whores baby that she threw at me' story he has.

>>376599125
No Good Tora.

>>376601753
It seems like he's either in bad standing with the rest of the cops or is some kind of private officer, considering he's operating out of a fucking kiosk in a shopping mall.

>>376601919
Wouldnt surprise me if it was the private officer thing since the Kirijo Group practically own that town.

>>376598552
This 100 percent
Theme of the game is Rebellion and Revolution against the path of society, and the chains said society uses to keep you on a singular path, perhaps because of past misdeeds, heritage, social class, talent, status etc

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He's a child character who you can't even talk to until the end of the game. Still wound up being the second best confidant.

>>376602631
Nobody ever talked about him so I thought he was going to be a piece of shit, but by the time I got to him I thought it was pretty good.

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>>376596403

Literally LOADSAMONEY in confidant form.

>>376602631
>mom is literally a chaosfag

did not see that coming.

>>376596403
>I want to teach you to avoid the mistakes I made, to not be blinded by greed and become a selfish jackass
>Joker has learned how to extort cornered enemies for all they're worth

>>376603220
Eh, its not like they're people so its fine. Its like killing chinese people.

>>376603220

Well Joker learned the value of life. And just how much people are willing to pay to hold onto it.

>>376601801
I think it's cute and makes him all the better as husbando material

>>376602631
>Doesn't call you Onii-chan
Worst character.

>>376603282
t, Haru

>>376601816
Yusuke's probably the best of the main cast discounting maybe Morgana but only because everyone else is so shite.

>>376596516
Now I feel retarded for ignoring him.

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>>376603486

I love my subtly sadistic tokufag Empress.

>>376603495

Morgana is fucking terrible. He's a self-absorbed cunt who's not near as necessary to the team as he thinks he is and then spergs out when rightfully called on it.

>>376596403
>did his slink at the end
>all that extra dosh I could have gotten from high level dudes
Feels bad

>>376603679
t. didn't plan his time wisely and blames Morgana for telling him to go to bed

>>376599194
>Negotiation chains are the most broken thing in the game
Just brainwash them.

I kinda hate him because if you have red lines in money OR item then you can't demand money\items over and over...it just works once and they run away.
2k from red money line? Life stone from red item line? Can't even all-out those fuckers after that.

>>376603679
>not near as necessary to the team as he thinks
>useless anywhere but spaceport
>spaceport is the worst dungeon
Coincidence? i think go to sleep.

>>376596952
He's great because the SL also gives you proficiency.

>>376604071

>Implying people didn't bench him for Makoto
>Implying the only reason he's ever used late game ISN'T for crit spam

>>376597020
4 guts to start link
5 to max it.

Also i don't think you can modify chair guns (aka the only ones that good)

>>376596729
I love her S.Link but her and Taro destroyed any illusions of this game being difficult

>>376604167
I switched Fox to Mona for spaceport dungeon. Makoto is always in my party.
Funny thing is that he basically ran out of SP by the time i got to yellow robots and i switched back to Fox...

>>376597114
They might even be too good honestly.

Or maybe that the rest of SP items are just garbage...but they are still OP.

>>376596451
Bidoof in Mystery Dungeon Time/Darkness

>>376597079

Of all the guys, Iwai's? Really?

>>376599194
DLC summons?

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>>376603220
Lend me your power.
Give me an item.
>Show me the money.

>>376603925
>implying Morgana forcing you into bed for 2/3 of the game isn't fucking bullshit. Christ, even when he was on his little emo vacation I had to go to bed because that entire week or whatever was just dedicated to cutscenes.

>>376601586
This one surprised me given how most of p3 slinks are shit

>>376605863

This. At least P3 made it so you actually had the choice of whether or not to take the punishment for staying up.

>>376596403
Chihaya and Yusuke were 2 that I really grew to love.
Chihaya seemed at first like a nutcase going about the whole "fate cant be changed" and hoe she first tried to scam you out of money but then grew to love her because she honestly felt like she was trying to change and opened up to the possibility that not everything is set in stone.
Yusuke first seemed like a boring guy but then I went and loved his Slink from how utterly strange the guy was, specially when tou go to church together and basically do the YMCA, also going to the lake with him was loads of fun.

Contrary to that Slink that I found boring were Ann (even though I love the character) and Ryuji.

>>376597429
No, the guy wants him to make extremely realistic toy guns to fool the other yakuza members into thinking he didn't botch that deal with the hong kong mafia that just took their money and left without giving them the guns.

>>376603486
>Doesn't call you Onii-chan
I'd prefer aniki from a boy.

>>376606937
Then the game would be extremely easy.

Buffalo Van Dyke
Terry Hintz
Geese thompson
Bo Wyatt
And of course, based Nern Guan.

My eternal niggas.

>>376601586
Him and the little girl are the best Slinks in P3. I don't know what went wrong with the others.

>>376596403
>send the calling card to the final palace owner
>cops show up to take away Sojiro
He comes back, right? I'm so close to maxing him out, too.

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Dunno if he counts, but I liked him.

>>376606994

I love Ann in the animated cutscenes, but the interactions with her during her link are boring. I also hate how even if you go down the Ann route abosolutely nothing changes with any of the other party scenes.

Really puts the brakes on the Ann train.

>>376609914
I enjoyed Anne's route myself. Nothing much happens, but that's because she doesn't really need help. You two hang out, go through some things, she comes to a realization in the end and tries to better herself a little. It was refreshing.

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>>376596403

>>376610138
>there are people that didn't complete this sidequest on the same loop that they go fight Majora
Only correct way to do it.