*auriels ascension starts playing*

>it's a teenage nu-/v/ getting nostalgic over the second worst bethesda game episode

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let me see your face

>>376595783
>>>lgbt

>>376595783
oblivion is the best elder scrolls unless you are a delusional oldfag romanticizing the first two.

>>376595883

m-muh morrowind

>>376595783
worst bethesda developed games are fo4 and 3

>>376595783
m8, Oblivion balances proper RPG gameplay with modern gaming conveniences. It's got the best features of Morrowind and Skyrim.

>harvest dawn
there will never be a more comfy feel than sneaking through a nobleman's house, jacking literally all of his shit while he sleeps and slipping back out while that comfy music plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJEg6MTPzc

>>376595568
Favorite quest anyone?
I've always been partial to whodunit.

.. I hope Bethesda can recapture the personality present in Oblivion in a future entry. A Night to Remember was close, and so was the Thieves Guild questline. But all the rest lacked the presence.

Am I just being a pretentious shit, /v/? Or am I on to something? I feel like I'm close to being able to put it into words.

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I'm not one that really believes in the whole comfy meme, but Oblivion is one of those rare exceptions where I understand it when people call it comfy.

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>>376595568
(((The Unsung War))) Starts playing as Big Eye gives you clearance to take off the freeway on your last flight as Razgriz.

Maybe I am being a nostalgiafag, but does anyone else think that Oblivion's outdated graphics make it more immersive? The more 'realistic' and 'gritty' a game tries to appear, the more it drifts away from the comfy fantasy feeling. There was just something about those uncanny faces coupled with those environments that made it an unforgettable experience.

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>Can't fast travel because there are enemies nearby
>It's a fucking mudcrab

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>>376596240
>The warm sun on your skin
>The loamy cyrodiilic soil and lush grass on your back
>Knowing that despite all that's wrong, you're still in one of the most peaceful eras in Tamriels history.
Cyrodiil is damn comfy. Some of the clothes fit the bill nicely.

OBLIVION REMASTERED WHEN

>>376596047
>got the best features of Morrowind and Skyrim.

nigga you cray. oblivion is my bar none favorite tes, but you are mad if you think oblivion has the writing of morrowind, or the weapon or ability variety.

skyrim has a better ui and a fucking keyring but overall is leagues more modder friendly than oblivion

>>376596412
Stop being retarded

It won't be nearly the same game and the visuals will becomes generic brown dust filled garbage.

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>>376596694
How'd you be able to turn THIS into brown garbage?

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Are you me OP?
I reinstalled Oblivon and was playing it until a minute ago.

Even after all these years, this game still looks fantastic (aside from the view distance)

>Pic related
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e7QdO3D5Fw Playing

Nothing comfier.

I actually think my favourite thing about Oblivion is you are not the chosen one, you arnt a god or whatever. You are a normal fucking guy, doing adventures, errands, making money etc.....

That is what makes Oblivion great! A game where you can just be a normal fucking person doing what the fuck you like.

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was oblivion kino?

>>376596946
There are mods for that. RAEVWD and ini tweaks.

>>376596992
*ludo

>>376596412
>>376596694
I hope it gets a remaster simply because it would stop crashing every 10 seconds when modded and have gamepad support on PC.

Skyrim didn't fucking need a remaster. If Oblivion never gets one I'll never buy a Bethesda game again.

it's amazing how similar oblivion and guild wars 1's soundtracks are a lot of the pre searing ascalon songs sound similar to the oblivion ones

yes I know they have the same composer

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>>376596957
>Played it for more than 300 hours
>Never got even close to finishing the main quest
>Most of my playtime was just exploring and killing shit

I regret NOTHING.

I also never used any mods, aside from some shitty graphics pack called "Make it pretty" back in 2007 i think

>>376596946
Use graphics mods instead of 4k. Though maybe you can handle both? I haven't played Oblivion since getting a new GPU.

Bunch of modding guides on this site, here's a starter.
http://demwaifus.blogspot.com/2015/01/comfy-oblivion.html

>>376596957
You ARE something of a chosen one. Either a Hero or a Shezzarine. But it's never brought up.

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>>376597324
You're damn right I'm the chosen one.

>>376596047

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>>376597270
Unlike Skyrim i think oblivion looks fine without graphical mods, not even kidding.

I might give ENB a try later though.

Oblivion is genuinely one of the best looking games I've ever played.

Shame the level scaling makes the game garbage.

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>>376597643
It still looks better with them. I do agree with you.

ENB is arguably not an improvement, I mainly stick to textures and environment mods and stuff like Liquid Water is just magic.

>>376597745
Aren't there mods for that?

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>>376597903
ye

I always really want to play Oblivion again but just can't get past the slow start and get into it. What mods should I get that will really re-ignite my interest and what playstyle should I go with?

>>376595783
k

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>>376598326
You'll just end up installing 400 mods and get bored then uninstall.

have you heard of the high elves

Eh, I remembered Watchmans Ease the most.

>>376598436
Sounds accurate but because of the image you have accompanied your message with, you have been disregarded dumb waifu poster.

>>376598436
>then uninstall
I've never understood this. Unless you're hurting for space, why would you bother undoing all your work just to do it all over again at some point in the future.

sunrise of flutes

>>376596134
>Favorite quest anyone?
>I've always been partial to whodunit.
That's everyone's favourite quest.

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>>376598570
sry wrong pic

>>376598623
figure of speech.

good place to dl vidya osts?

>>376595783
>second worst bethesda game
it's not even close

>>376598865
10fps+inputlag.jpg

Have you heard of the high elves?

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>>376598991
took me a while but I found a normal pic you won't complain about.

>>376599024
GRUH.
UGH.
GRAH.
aaaah....

>>376598865
Somebody got Vaseline all over your game

>>376595568
congratulations OP, you got one of only 2 aspects where oblivion is better than morrowind or skyrim

>>376600447
>Skyrim
>Better than oblivion at anything

The only good thing about Skyrim is Paarthurnax, a cool character stuck in a shitty game.

>>376599024
Fuck, you beat me to it anon.

>>376595783
Oblivion is pretty good with mod support better than morrowing easily if you install nehrim its actually the best open world game "from" Bethesda.

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>>376596326
I agree, actually.

I find myself intentionally gimping the grafix for that very reason.

>>376600737
Nehrim is forgettable garbage. I can't even remember if it had factions or not.

Wings of Kynareth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY41Q1FYokQ

>>376596326
I understand what you're talking about. The graphics aren't realistic, they're high fantasy, and that makes them extremely comfy.

>>376600859
Different tastes and all that.
To me nehrim was the first and still borderline only open world game that pulled off a main story in it.

>>376595954
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
>miss
>sword is literally phasing through the enemy
>miss

such combat, much good!

Is the Steam version of this game patched?

>>376601262
No the steam version is 1.0

>>376601296
Which patches do I need?

>>376601409
All of them

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>>376596134
That one daedric quest, I think Vaermina, where you go in a tower to steal something from a wizard, and end up in spooky wonderland.

>>376601416
Is there a patched digital version?

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>>376601183
>playing TES for combat

>>376601409
Official Oblivion Patch.
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/11364/?
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/5296/?
Unofficial SI Patch.
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/10739/?

>>376601454
No.

What's the news from the other parts of Tamriel?

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>>376601183
>such combat, much good!

>>376601482
please tell me the name of the mod that completely removes combat from the game so I don't have to suffer through that bullshit while I try and enjoy this brown, foggy landscape

>>376601818

*SNORRRTS*

Should I install Quals textures or Quarls textures lite?

>>376602219
I've heard others say the same...

>>376595783
I'm just getting this in now before elder scrolls 6: generic forest lands comes out but

>you will see people getting nostalgic for skyrim as the best elder scrolls in your life time
>but at least we can go back to shitting on potato faces and mudcrabs oblivion

>>376596957
>the emperor saw YOU in his dreams and entrusts you with the amulet even over his own elite bodyguards
>you literally become a god

Yeah okay, I bet you stayed level 1 and collected yarn or some shit.

>>376602428
lite

>>376601183
This shows you never played it for more than a hour.

>>376602064
There's a cheat where you pick a weapon as a major skill and its corresponding attribute as a favourite. I understand lots of people prefer to play without cheats but it's the only way I could get through the game, see if it helps you.

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>There are normies, casuals, and kiddies in this thread RIGHT NOW who's first TES game was oblivion on a console

>>376602662
>following the main quest
>not going to anvil and settling down as a lady of the manor, spending your days walking around in your fine linens talking to citizens and shopping

Ruin-Tail is a humongous faggot and I greatly regret installing that edgy fag and his incessant moral quandaries in the middle of a dungeon.

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>>376595783
Can't wait for the toddler nu-/v/ generation to praise Skyrim in a few years.

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>>376596047
>Oblivion balances proper RPG gameplay

>enemies scale up to the point where even common road bandits wear daedric armors
>shitty dialogue wheel persuasion system
>non static loot

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>install hundreds of mods
>lots of quest too
>at least 200 hours playthrough ahead
>create a character
>40 hours later bored with it
>take a break for a few months
>don't feel like playing the same char
>don't want to waste those hours I already put in
Damn

>>376604582
Honestly, I'll take shitty dialogue wheel over non-existent system in Skyrim anyway. It was dumb, but at least it made bartering interesting, rather than Skyrim's just auto "It's all math, you can't have someone charge you a higher price because they hate you."

>>376595783
11 year olds who played Skyrim will be able to post sometime this year.

>>376603817
Tears of the Fiend and Ruined Tail's Tale is so wordswordswords. Not to mention it's impossible to get anything resembling a good ending without a guide that comes with a mod. I appreciate the effort, but there are better quest mods.

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>>376603446
>there are autists in this thread, right now that can't enjoy oblivion because it wasn't their first tes

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True Story Time
>be oldfag
>huge TES nerd
>literally thousands of hours logged
>from arena to morrowind
>normie friends have 360s
>they play faggoty shit like call of duty
>"hey anon, have you heard of this new game?"
>"its called the elder scrolls oblivion and it's really fun"
I knew at that moment the series was doomed to mediocrity. Time has proved me correct.

>>376604920
The only thing you got right was that you're a fag.

>>376604808
>he thinks people didnt enjoy oblivion "because it wasnt their first TES" and not because it was a watered down console-oriented shitfest with every aspect of gameplay significantly worse than its predecessor
ask me how i know you're retarded

>>376595783
Fallout is a franchise you know.

BUT MUH NEW VEGAS IS AMAZING V HIVEMIND SO I CAN FIT IN

>>376605021
daggerfall and morrowind are goat. oblivion is a console shitfest for casuals and xmas kiddies

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>>376604808
>>376605021
Actual Oblivion consolebabbies detected.

>>376605021
Kek

>>376604920
>it's popular so it's shit!!!!!!!!!
You're a child

>>376605282
>shit can't be popular
You're a mongoloid retard.

>>376605065
>he thinks his opinion of fact
Ask me how I know you're over 300 pounds

What happened to radiant AI in Skyrim? Did it even exist?

In Oblivion the NPCs really felt like they had lives, some of them would go on journeys far across the map to see their friend or w/e

In Skyrim I don't even remember the NPCs going to sleep.

>>376605065
But that's exactly why. If Oblivion were your first TES you wouldn't have been spoiled by a superior experience, allowing you to enjoy it for what it is rather than be disappointed by everything it isn't. It wouldn't feel watered down in the slightest if it were your first RPG. On the contrary, it would be a much more complex and open game than just about everything else you played up to that point.

>>376605374
>he doesnt understand the difference between opinion and fact
why would i bother? you're clearly retarded

>>376605265
Stop telegraphing your retardation.

>>376605439
well....ok that's a fair point. sorry for not being a casual or a newfag and having expectations of quality...i guess

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>>376601183
Anyone who has this opinion needs to get the fuck off of my /v/ for being a casual mouth-breathing pleb.

>complains about an RPG testing the skills of your character instead of your abilities as a player

Go back to Skyrim, faggot.

>>376605439
That's literally me. Oblivion blew my mind at how much freedom you had, I didn't play Morrowind until many years later because I had a shit PC and who the fuck bought an original Xbox

>>376605451
>oh shit b-better double down
It's okay fat. You'll be dead soon.

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>>376605426
>unironically praising Oblivion's radiant AI
You can't be serious, everyone was making fun of how retarded and maniac the NPC's were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVAYY5LHhv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8hetpJxXSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKl98C_w-s

>>376605627
I can be serious, it made it memorable and entertaining.

>>376605579
>starts throwing around baseless accusations because he lacks an argument
>accuses others of doubling down

>>376605265
this
this
this

>>376604805
>there are better quest mods

Are there? Outside of Thievery in the Imperial City and Lost Spires are all that's really ever caught my eye.

>>376605530
If you don't understand why that particular rpg element doesn't work in modern games then you're fucking retarded.
Don't you fags sperg out when you miss impossibly easy shots in xcom. Isn't there a fucking meme image about that retarded shit?
In a paper and pencil rpg, where you imagination can give you the image of your character missing is fine. But I'm a visual game where you sword or spear or whatever just phases through.
No, you don't understand games

>>376605730
>is doing the thing he claims other anon is doing
Stay ass blasted

>>376605374
>reduced magic system
>watered down leveling system
>graphical restraints designed for console
Oblivion made practically zero improvements over morrowind; infact they made many features worse. And by the time oblivion hit stores, MW had a fuckton of user created mods that in-of-themselves outshine a lot of oblivions content
>opinion
Be honest, you were how old when oblivion came out? 11? 12? It's ok that oblivion was your first TES, it just means you're a child with shit taste

>>376605627
that's amazing.

>>376606094
Windfall
Bartholm
Daggerfall Memories: Cybiades
Quest of the Week thing nexus did few years back (pretty uneven)
Kragenir's Death Quest (but only sidequests), KotN Revelations, Heart of the Dead (those two mess with a lore bit too much)
Golden Crest
Kvatch Rebuilt

There are others I haven't tried yet like Gates to Aesgard, Reclaming Sancre Tor, Adash City of magic, Order of the Dragon, Ayleid Steps among others

There's a lot to choose from

>>376606538
>calling someone out for not having an argument and resorting to insults is the same thing as not having an arguement and resorting to insults
You're as dumb as he is. See >>376606557

Oblivion was my first ES. Morrowind came next on the OG Xbox, then I went to Morrowind on the PC, DaggerXL and then Arena. I never liked Skyrim, something about it didn't grab me. I can enjoy playing Oblivion more than I can Skyrim and Morrowind is my favorite ES. Everyone's situation is different.

>>376603539

>Lady

Anon....

>>376605579
>>376605730
>>376606538
>Provide fact-based critiques that highlight why oblivion is an inferior game>>376606557
>the "well that's just like, your opinion, man" oblivion kiddies stop replying
Look, I get it. You showed up late to the party and started hyping an inferior game. It's ok, we were all children at one point. But it's time to grow up and accept the truth: Oblivion was a watered down console game that signaled the turning point in the decline of TES

>>376606475
Shut up, nerd.

>>376606475
I've never had a single playthrough (including my very first) where I wasn't able to overcome that in the first hour. You just have to not be retarded and understand how your skills relate to combat mechanics.
>>376604396

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I played it on the 360 for 500 hours.
It was fucking great even without a single mod.

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I played it on 360 when it came out back in 2006. Best thing about the game was how broken it was.
>Walk into a shop
>Kill the show owner
>Duplicate a million watermelons all the way up to the ceiling
>Telepathic guards can't reach me
>The watermelons and guard bodies pile up so much that the game stops working

There was also some ring glitch to permanently add points into your stats. I remember doing that over and over until my character could run so fast and jump so high he could clear buildings and towers. It became a problem after a while though because there were times that going sanic fast made doing some things harder.

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>>376610848
Same here, and same with Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

Even though I have a high-powered PC and crammed so many mods into Skyrim and Fallout 4 that they're barely recognizable, I still look back fondly on my vanilla Oblivion days.

>>376601442
Arkved's Tower. Shit, I love that one.
Nearly all Oblivion's Daedric quests are amazing.

>doing Hircine's quest to kill the unicorn
>usually let it get buttfucked by minotaurs or ride it off a cliff, but this time decide to actually fight it
>ride it away from the grove and start wailing on it, but quickly discover my character is far too weak and flee
>throughout the rest of the playthrough, the unicorn occasionally shows up to try to kill me when I fast travel
>finally have no choice but to kill it just before entering the shivering isles for the first time

>>376613575
Holy shit, that is hilariously fucking amazing.

>>376595568
my memories of Oblivion are perfect, but they can't be replcated. It's not an exploraiton game, it's a questing game. And I know all the quests. Pretending to figure them out or wonder where they'll go doesn't work anymore.

Maybe I should finish Morrowind and finally play Gothic 2 to get that feeling again

>>376605265
THIS RIGHT HERE FOLKS

/thread

>>376595783
I've been here 12 years you dumb cunt, it's better than Skyrim, that's all that matters to me.

>>376595568
>picking up ingredients slightly increase your alchemi skill

never ever in my countless hours of play and different playthroughs my alchemy skill increased after picking up a mushroom or a flower.

>>376601442
>>376613575
>that feel when no game can compete with the fun level of Oblvion quests

>>376605265
5 years old and still fucking perfect

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>the oblivion consolebabbies whom we made fun of for playing the shittiest ES are now old enough to browse /v/ and shitpost defending it on /v/

>>376595783
>It's an old fart with nostalgia goggles episode

I'm 30. Oblivion was the best elder scrolls once you fixed the broken leveling system with mods.

>>376614328
Are there mods to fix the boring setting and worldbuilding?

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>>376595783
I don't see anyone in this thread defending daggerfall.

>>376614306
>are now old enough
>now
I'm 24 and spent most of age 15 playing Oblivion on my 360

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Comfiest game. Morrowind fags go die already.

>>376614408
>boring setting
I hope you don't mean to imply that any temperate medieval fantasy setting is boring
>worldbuilding
by this I hope you mean the overworld and how randomly placed dungeons are and there's essentially nothing to do outside of settlements

the answer to both questions is yes, but the first question is fucking stupid

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>>376614306
Been playing tes since daggerfall up to fallout 4.
Oblivion is the most comfy and entertaining game in the series with best music, cute fantasy like world and truly weak main quest but who gives a fuck about main quest.
Also best addon in series.

Since when did we start calling truth 'defending the game'? Those are facts, not some fanboy gibberish.

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Quick question
How do I make Morrowind fun to play?

I love the setting and the details, but playing it is such a slog. The movement feels weird and the combat is just frustrating.
I'm levelled to the point where I don't miss every other attack but that does nothing to stop every person, plant and animal wanting me dead for being in the same square mile. I though Cliffracers were just a meme.
I'm using the enhanced first person mod to add headbob so movement feels a bit more natural (if more nauseating)

>finally reach 100 restoration
>make a bunch of spells boosting speed, athletics, and acrobatics by 100 points
>run and jump across the map so fast the game can barely load areas fast enough to handle it
>jump around the rooftops at the arcane university and outside the borders of the game

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>nostalgiababbies think oblivion is better than skyrim

skyrim improved upon oblivion in every fucking way besides trimming some rpg elements out (which were barely intact after morrowind anyway)

>no potato faces
>way more voice actors
>unique handcrafted world in the vein of morrowind, with multiple regions that actually differ in landscape (not just the same grass/trees painted a different color)
>"fixed" level scaling (still there to an extend, but cuts off at a reasonable point)
>handcrafted unique dungeons with a massive berth of categories (in comparison)

Skyrim is just what oblivion wanted to be, if bethesda had the budget at the time (and weren't completely gutting their game for "next gen" consoles)

>>376602064
You can do it without modding or whatever. What you do is:
- Make a character with Illusion as a major skill
- Go to Bravil
- Grind Illusion up to 100
- Buy a decent Invisibility spell
- Trigger the Oblivion invasion
- Run Gates for Sigil Stones with Chameleon (you can save scum: the Stone you get is determined when it's added to your inventory, so save just before taking it)
- Enchant gear to Chameleon 100
Now you'll never enter combat again.

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>>376595783
It's the Bethesda cycle
>Morrowind released
>Daggerfags call it shit
>Oblivion is released
>Morrowfags call it shit
>Skyrim is released
>Oblivionfags call it shit
>TESVI is released
>Skyfags call it shit
>repeat ad infinitum

>>376614732
>trimming some rpg elements
They gutted the whole and just kept the perks. They didn't need to remove them, they could have just made them more interactive instead of just dice rolls and RNG bullshit

>>376614936
I played Oblivion first and thought it was shit then. It's just an incredibly dull game.

>>376614681
>How do I make Morrowind fun to play?
you dont. some games just fun in the core, like deus ex or system shock 2. you can have fun in them. Morrowind is not the same, you either played it before oblivion was released or download terabytes of modes and still wont make it playable.

>>376614681
Being an illusionist will help you pacify wild animals.
Crafting alchemy potions or using normal spells can make you outright invisible.
For movement: raise your acrobatics and athletics (it helps a lot), by end game you'll be jumping over buildings and moving like sonic
Guards are your friend, n'wah

>>376614681
The game doesn't get interesting until you're prepared to go explore daedric ruins and other portions of Vvardenfel.
Oh, and avoid exploring ash mountain at all costs, I did that and my interest in the game plummeted so fucking hard.

>>376615159
>Morrowind is not the same
you're right, morrowind is better. in oblivion you cant even cast levitate. theres literally no aspect of oblivion that doesn't already exist (often times better) in MW

>>376615159
>likes the drivel that was SS2 but dislikes Morrowind

Alpha omega pleb

>>376614732
>unique handcrafted world in the vein of morrowind, with multiple regions that actually differ in landscape
this is the only thing skyrim did better, while also having a *single* handcrafted dungeon (blackreach) that really is just another underwhelming stealth grind of falmer

still had worse combat, magic, spellmaking, skills, towns, cities, NPCs, guilds, side quests, daedric quests, and series gimmick (oblivion gates >>> dragons imo). all you got in skyrim was a decent overworld with no good stories to keep you immersed and dumbed down gameplay to make it even more boring

>>376615153
I agree to some extent. It was fun for what it was and had some enjoyable moments, but the overall atmosphere was lacking compared to any of the other games. It felt like generic Tolkien fantasy. I suppose if it had been released after Daggerfall, I wouldn't have been as bothered by it but with Morrowind feeling so alien, Cyrodiil felt lacking.

It had some great quests, though.

>>376596412
Mods, dumb console fag

>>376595783
How can it be second worst when Bethesda released FO4, FO3 and Skyrim?

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>>376597089
Yeah, Soule is very recognizable. He also did the KotOR OST, and the old Harry Potter PC games' soundtracks.

Sometimes I'll swear I hear Ahto City coming through in Hogwarts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f88kZKQ7DVE

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>>376615153
this, it's such a slog to play, you literally have to be <12 to enjoy it

there's nothing in the overworld in terms of visuals, it's all the same. There's nothing in the overworld in terms of enemies, just bandits and wolves.

And the dungeons, fuck, the dungeons are all entirely the same, every cave looks the same, every fort looks the same and there's never anything to find save for enemies and random chests strewn around.

It's like playing one game stretched over 10 ten times because "muh next gen consoles games gotta be big" so there's just endless fields of repetitious shit and nothing interesting to find or interact with

>That series of mods that turned out the way swathes of barren nothing into redwood forests and cave systems and unique environments
>That archaeology guild questline

If you played oblivion without these I actually pity you, and it's worth it to reinstall the game just for these.

>>376615415
>It felt like generic Tolkien fantasy
I will never, ever understand this criticism. I was the biggest lotr fanboy prior to Oblivion (which was my first TES game) and I loved Oblivion for how different it felt to anything I'd ever played. The Aylied ruins showed a world that was eons old and whos history wasn't fully understood. The way that the different races had characteristics is unlike any other fantasy or sci fi property I can think of. The religious aspect is played far more importantly than in any other fantasy property I'd ever seen, especially in lotr. and the hell like depiction of the daedra in Oblivion was much more of christian mythology than any kind of lotr copying. In fact I cant think of a single property of Oblivion that it shares with lotr.

>>376601183
>le funni doge maymay xD xD much funni xD xD
Surprise, Redditors don't like good games. Back to casualrim, cuckold.

>>376614306
How old are you? The one you called babby is now 23-26.

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>>376615791
>In fact I cant think of a single property of Oblivion that it shares with lotr

I'm assuming this is copypasta, but for starters:

>>376613575
Reminds me of the first dark brotherhood quest. Instead of taking the roads I just booked it through the forest. When I got to the inn of ill omen I snuck downstairs only to have a minotaur I'd pissed off at some point burst into the room and kill the guy. I had no idea how long he'd been following, and didn't realize that enemies could follow you through cells.

>>376595783
>oldfag romanticizing arena or daggerfall
>thinking oblivion is worse than skyrim

It's at least #2, objectively. Don't be a cuck.

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>>376615975
dude they totally copied the LOTR movies years before they came out lmao

>>376598473
HRGGH

>>376615791
>In fact I cant think of a single property of Oblivion that it shares with lotr.
too many gay horses?

>>376616121
>thinking Skyrim is good at all
Dude no classes lmao, dude no racial stat bonuses lmao, dude you can do anything as long as you do it enough lmao

>>376616163
>movies
You realize there are LOTR books, right? "Generic Tolkien fantasy" covers all forms of LOTR media.

>>376614936
>daggerfags called morrowind shit
I'll 'things that never happened' for 600 moon sugars, khajit

>>376616434
mithril armor and it's look you implied directly that it copied the movies. I know the books retard, but saying that having mithril armor in Oblivion is a direct LOTR inspiration is objectively untrue.

Shouldn't TESVI be the next game Bethesda develops? How many years has it been since Fallout 4?

>>376616489
somebody post the oldfag review of the die hard daggerfall fan for ripping morrowind a new one for castrating interactivity and complexity for graphics

>People are nostalgic for Oblivion
Jesus fuck.
It's only a few years until people start posting Skyrim nostalgia threads.

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>>376616489
I got you senpai

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>>376615617
I feel different about Morrowind's overworld.

It has some interesting biomes and visuals, and the world feels the right size to me once you level up your speed. There's plenty of fun little things to do travelling between cities (apart from the ashlands).
But the cities are a lot more boring than later games. There's no interesting quests from random NPCs, only directions. Vivec is the worst contender with its horrible architecture in the cantons and empty streets.

The problem is that it's not fun to play. Having rats and cliffracers chase you cross-country because they spotted you a mile away is just annoying and break the immersion.

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>>376616489
>>376616693
>>376616726

And here's part 2

>>376616614
Its been 17 months or so since Fallout 4 was released.

I'd expect a TES VI teaser at the VGAs later this year, but its possible they'll wait longer.

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>>376616697
Oblivion is 11 years old, you nigger. I think we're allowed to look back on it.

>>376616808
>not teasing at E3

>>376616697
decade old games are p nostalgic

>>376616489
I wish I was this new

>>376616808
Damn I thought it was actually longer than that. I thought Bethesda usually revealed things on E3 that's why I was curious/

>>376616808
Todd said TES VI is a long way off because they're waiting for technology to catch up. Maybe Wild Hunt really did spook them.

>>376616941
Tease, maybe. Official announcement unlikely.

>>376616995
They did imply they were working on a new IP, guess we'll see if they show anything at all next month.

>>376598865
That is by far the worst UI I've ever seen.

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>>376616941
>>376616981
>>376616995
>>376617070

Here's the quote from the interview.

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>>376616910
I wanna fuck that cat

>>376595783
Nostalgia isn't only about past enjoyment remanifested.
You can be nostalgic about very shitty things.

Though, I'm not going to lie and say I didn't enjoy Oblivion, because I did. Though, I didn't like it for the same reasons I like Morrowind.

>>376617235
if the fanart booru is any indication, you're gonna have to take a number

>>376609626
>daggerfall is watered down arena
>morrowind is watered down daggerfall
>oblivion is watered down morrowind
>Skyrim is watered down oblivion
Why are you sucking the cock of inferior games
Arena master race

>>376617268
>You can be nostalgic about very shitty things
true. I'm nostalgic for the smell of cigarette smoke.

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>>376617190
>bethesda is finally switching engines

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>>376617235
>tfw update soon

>>376617327
>daggerfall is watered down arena
this one isn't true though. It's the only one that was a straight up improvement in every way.

>>376609626
>watered down console game that signaled the turning point in the decline of TES
that is a factual description of Morrowind

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>>376617190
What do you think the technology is?

>>376606872
What's you argument retard?
>it's watered down
>it's simplified
>it's opinion
Having a bunch of faggots that agree with you does not make you any less of a faggot.
You are objectively wrong. No amount of nostalgia will fix that

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>>376617383
They already switched engines, m8.

>>376616726
>>376616804
>>376616971
>the icons are too small and it's not a REEEEAAAALLLL rpg
yeah solid argument. except for that the inventory system was more advanced in MW, and the game contains all the things he complains about
>where are the lycanthropes
in bloodmon
>where are the horses and carts?
gone, thank god
>where is the ability to buy houses
you can, infact you can custom build a guild house
>non 24 hour shops
later patches actually included this, faggot doesnt even talking mudcrab
>city to city travel
silt striders and mage guilds
>non icon inventory
this is just a retarded argument
>no bank
a reasonable argument, but ultimately invalid because you can store as much as you want in houses

Those are extremely flawed critique points compared to the faults of oblivion against MW. It's like that fag played to level 5 and quit.

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>>376617506
go to bed todd

>>376617190
They're finally going to get spears working.

>>376617506
kill yourself. I wonder if fallout 4 has the same water visibility bug that existed in Morrowind, Oblivion, Fo3, New Vegas, and Skyrim

>>376617545
best character creation in ANY CRPG

beyond that, it's a lot of the same towns looks the same, dungeons look the same, but it's still pretty fun

>>376617190
God I hope they bring spellmaking back.

>>376595954
>>376601183

In oblivion I find myself in a medieval world with magic in it.

In Morrowind I fi d myself in a world that I have no idea what the fuck is going on.What is what creature?
What Is that thing?
What's this giant fence doing here?

Alien world.
I would choose it over anything.

>>376617536
>>non icon inventory
>this is just a retarded argument
it's not. there's just some strage retarded thing that happened to kids in the early 00's that made them think that icons were easier to manage than text. nobody before or after you feels the same way.

>>376617190
>That sounds like you don't even have the technology
Says Todd.
Then Bethesda scraps it before release and we get a buggy mess of a game that would have been innovative a decade ago and average a few years ago.

>>376617536
>Those are extremely flawed critique points compared to the faults of oblivion against MW.

I think it's largely a matter of perspective for what you want out of these games. You can still find enjoyment even if things don't match your vision.

>>376617551
>Our idea for TESVI is to have spears
>whoah, how do you even have the technology for that right now?

>>376617479
>t. butt blasted oblivion child
The magic system was objectively worse in Oblivion than morrowind.
The leveling up system was stripped down and simplified, again this isn't opinion, it's objective fact.
You understand what 'objectively' means

>>376595568
I wish Oblivion had good controller support

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>>376617462
Mind control devices for their customers so Todd doesn't have to go door to door like a Mormon anymore.

>>376610309
>it's okay that is a shit mechanic guys
>you can make it maybe not so insufferably shit after an hour of play
>it's okay it doesn't make sense that the sword phases through enemies it's and rpg
You faggots would go ballistics is say, the witcher, made you miss randomly based on stats. Or if on New Vegas a bullet just passed through enemies because
>lol small arms aren't leveled enough.

>>376617646
because they are. your brain is capable of more quickly discerning symbols than having to real a full line of text. you could make the argument that it's 'less fun' but not 'easier'

>>376596370
>no shoes
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SE5owAIPmk
Never forget.

>>376617327
>morrowind introduced the first handcrafted world
>watered down

kek way to prove you know shit all about the franchise

>>376617759
Goooood morning! Bethesda calling.

>>376617781
it's only a shit mechanic if you're too stupid to understand how stats and skills work. everything is hard and awful when you're dumb

>>376617557
>water visibility bug
??

>>376617865
>your brain is capable of more quickly discerning symbols
good thing your brain reads words as individual symbols and can directly understand them faster than translating a visual image into a word. small icons where all of them are the same shape with very few variations in color on a black background are objectively less easy to read then text organized menus

something like the darnified Oblivion is a much, much better inventory system than Morrowind. They can show more information on the screen at once while also being easier to organize and quickly find what you want

>>376614306
He wasn't here when /v/ likes it.
It goes like this bud
>game announced
>/v/ hates it
>game released
>half shit on it, half play it
>dust settles
>/v/ likes it because people that played it come back
>game is forgotten
>/v/ hates it because the people that played have moved on but shit posting is eternal
>New game announced
>repeat

>>376617646
Bullshit. Icons are much better for mouse dragging. Text was only used in old CRPG's because monitor resolutions made icon-based inventories infeasible.

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>>376595783
>second worst bethesda game
>What is Battlespire?
>What is Redguard?
It's fucking garbage like all of their games, but it's not even close to being the second worst.
Time for some Intelligence Training anon.

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>>376618089
placing the camera halfway underwater when looking ahead at a flat angle lets you see underwater with clear visibility

>>376618183
>mouse dragging
and mouse dragging is objectively worse than clicking

>>376618128
>good thing your brain reads words as individual symbols and can directly understand them faster than translating a visual image into a word.

Are you seriously trying to imply that the brain recognizes words more quickly than images?

>>376618294
yes. better than small, low resolution images at least. especially when they're all the same shape.

>>376618271
Mouse dragging from your inventory to your character screen to equip items is a challenge for you?

>>376618128
>having to read multiple individual symbols then compile them into a formal structure is easier than knowing a picture of a sword means it's a sword
thats wrong, but i will concede oblivion had a more aesthetic inventory system than morrowind

>>376617408
Yeah I know, it's just a Fuck you to nostalgia fags

>>376617719
You mean it was broken in morrowind
Magic was broken in oblivion too just not to the same degree.

>>376618213
Oh, that. One of the first patches for Skyrim fixed it, and F4 and Skyrim SE are free from it too.

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>>376596946

I find myself going back to Oblivion more than Skyrim for this and other reasons.

>>376618294
waht he's syaign is dseipte nnoe of tshee wodrs benig splet corrctely yuor barin can sitll interprat tehm bceuase we assoictae wtih sahpe not inidivudal lteteirng

>>376618421
>something being more bothersome is now a good thing because prefering something easier and intuitive makes you a casual
wew lad
>>376618427
it's not wrong, it's objectively true.
>a sword
that's the fucking problem. What sword? how much damage does it do? how much is it worth? how much does it weigh? how damaged is it?

darnified ui gives you all of this information for all objects in your inventory all at once. icon based inventories do not. this isn't an argument, icon fags are just in Stockholm syndrome

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>>376614936
And they were all right. How ironic.

>>376618213
This bug lived till New Vegas

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>>376617235
I can't even imagine the kinds of diseases you would get from that skank
>>376617391
update never

>>376618397
Here's a scientific study detailing all the ways in which you are objectively wrong.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090429132231.htm

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>>376601442

>That one trippy horror mod that lead into a cursed elven ruins

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>>376617536
>T-this totally didn't happen!
>Get BTFO
>Move goalposts
>Those are extremely flawed critique points!

>>376618836
>categories of objects
doesn't apply to inventories where the specific characteristics of objects is more important than knowing "dude thats a sword and that's an apple lmao"

>>376618637
>something being more bothersome is now a good thing because prefering something easier and intuitive makes you a casual

>dragging an image
>bothersome

I can't figure out if I've been baited, you're retarded, you have no understanding of UI design or all 3.

>>376618637
>its true because i say it is
it's actually not. years of analytical psychology and examining human reaction regarding symbology proves you wrong. it's easier for humans to understand pictures than words. period.
that being said: is it really so hard to mouse over the icon to see stats? you're objectively spending more time on keyboard clicks navigating than using a mouse. again: you could make the argument it's less fun (for you) but it's in no way 'easier'

>>376618902
>counter one retards flawed argument point for point
>moving the goalpost
with that logic no wonder your recent games are garbage, todd

>>376618992
You hover over the images and the text describing an item magically appears.

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>>376619008
>>dragging an image
>>bothersome
compared to clicking? yes
>>376619035
>is it really so hard to mouse over the icon to see stats
when I could have all the stat's laid out for me for dozens of objects at once? yes it is extremely bothersome

for actually using an inventory for an RPG by sorting and comparing items for use, this is objectively better than a bunch of icons that can only tell me generally what an item is

>>376619183
Just admit that you were wrong, anon. There is no need to further embarass yourself.

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>>376617972
>no seasons in Skyrim SE
you had one job todd. My main savegame had at least 2 years passed, I noticed that shit.

Why do NuMales prefer Morrowind to Daggerfall? Because Morrowind is so "le quirky"? Morrowind isn't alien. It's the Middle East, but with some monsters and mushrooms. I'm not sure what sort of shut-in thinks that is alien. Even the ash storms are just desert sand storms. It's pathetic, NuMalewind cucks are pathetic.

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>>376617624
>best character creation in ANY CRPG
Can anyone elaborate on this?

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>>376619307
I mean look at this shit. It would take maybe 10x as long to get the information from a similar amount of objects as are displayed here. and you can only look at one object at a time. look at how much more intuitive sorting is in a text based inventory as well; click on gold, weight, damage, and it all ranks it from high to low or vice verse. You can do the same in the icon based inventory but then they aren't sorted vertically or by class, so your eyes have to reinterpret all of the images at once instead of just jump to the small list of items you know you're already looking for and can compare all of them directly

>>376619307
ok, for comparing multiple items against eachother you have a point. for literally every other use of inventory it's flawed by comparison. but you almost never needed the data in that spreadsheet format for multiple sets of items, you were most commonly comparing what you have vs what you looted to see if it's better.

>>376619308
post just literally one more example and i'll concede defeat. your cherry picked argument is memorable because that guy was a sperg, not because he was objectively right

>>376619816
>for literally every other use of inventory it's flawed by comparison
there is *literally* no other use for an inventory. not one. LITERALLY nothing else is done in an inventory in TES games. You need a specific item for a situation, you have to sort and compare your inventory to find the right one. it's easier and better to have items sectioned off by category and listed in a comparative way for every single time you will need to view your items.

>>376619949
I don't care about his argument. I didn't even read it. All Bethesda games are trash and they will never make a good one. This is the one company where I can't understand how their games are even popular at all. I was merely pointing out that he was backpedalling hard after his initial arrogant statement and that I found this extremely amusing.

>>376619601
That looks aesthetically pleasing compared to the soulless excel list. Seeing all your item icons like that gives some kind of a fuzzy warm feeling, that's why exactly people like inventory tetris and things like that. They feel more immersive.

>>376596632
>Writing of Morrowind
So it doesn't have atrocious inconsistent writing?

>>376620276
>muh feelings
>soulless excel list
are you the one trying to tell people morrowind is a hardcore crpg and oblivion is consolized shit for babies?

>>376598865
What the fuck am I looking at

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>people in this thread think level scalling is good
And this is why nobody can take Oblivionfags seriously.

>>376620510
>>people in this thread think level scalling is good
show me the post, nobody has ever defended that. we defend oblivion with mods

>>376616726
Morrowind was my first Elder Scrolls game and I got it shortly after it was released. I remember my brother saying how shitty it was compared to Daggerfall. Then I also saw him put over 100 hours into Morrowind too.

>>376619965
>You need a specific item for a situation, you have to sort and compare your inventory to find the right one
That's what you have to do when it's in list format. Need ring A? look there it is. Need ring B? look there it is. no sorting or organizing necessary. once your brain makes the association with the symbol, you know it's the item you want. You don't have to read a fucking list to access it. morrowind even had basic inventory categories to reduce potential clutter for icons. the argument of "my eyes suck and i cant tell these symbols apart" is not a decent basis for organization

>>376620561
You have people who said they played Oblivion for many hours on console.
That's enough of a proof.

>you cannot fast travel while in combat
the game

>>376620510
>people in this thread think level scalling is bad

>>376619538
look it up, there's a shit ton of modifiers you can add to your character at the start of the game that actually change the way you play

you can bar yourself from certain weapon types armor types, but in exchange be given spell absorption, regenerate health in the dark or in water, immunities to certain elements/status effects

>>376620254
i didnt backpedal shit. the assertion was made that the general consensus was daggerfall fans disapproved of morrowind. there's always going to be at least one guy who disproves of the successor, but that cherry picked example in no way validates that initial assertion

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>>376620360
I'm only telling my opinion on it. Chill the fuck out. Inventory management is the part of autistic satisfaction I get from the games. When you have icon based inventory all the items feel like actual items when you drag them around and they make some clicking sound. It doesn't feel the same at all with lists and no 3d model sideview can fix that.

>>376618089
If you swam fully underwater it would just be a green blur, no discernible details at all, but halfway underwater like the other anon showed you could see it. Mods fixed it.

>>376605426
>Radiant AI

That fucked me over once when I was trying to find the Orc to buy the Skingrad house from.

>>376605530
>complains about an RPG testing the skills of your character instead of your abilities as a player
>If you don't have a very specific character build the game is unplayable

>>376620656
>level scalling
>nothing but shit
Yeah those Bandits in Full Deadric Armor asking you for 100gold sure are fun to deal with.

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>>376619369
>that filename

>>376595783
>the second worst bethesda game episode
I'm no Oblivion fan but:
>Arena
>Redguard
>Battlespire
>Fallout 4
>Fallout BOS
And that's not counting the games they published but not produced.

>>376620775
See >>376619452
inb4 I-It doesn't count!

>>376605265
>tfw too intelligent for good combat

>>376621165
>Oblivion
>good combat
>Skyrim
>good combat
The combat formula hasn't changed since Morrowind, only difference now is you hit all the time.

>>376598865
What is it with mod users in these games, man? That looks like dog shit. Cranked colour saturation, vaseline liberally applied, garbage UI, most likely running at <20 fps with added input lag. I'd rather play vanilla on low than that mess.

>>376621138
>maybe if i link this unrelated post no one will notice how retarded i am
wrong, i noticed. and that guy is fucking retarded. there aren't many tidal swamps in the middle east.

>>376595783

fpbp

>>376621138
follow up: you're doubly retarded for assuming the argument is preference for one over the other. the argument is "did massive amounts of people shit all over morrowind because they enjoyed daggerfall" and the answer is a resounding 'no' and the cherry picked sperg does not disprove that

>>376620620
they don't defend it though. they just enjoyed it in spite of the major flaw. nobody has defended level scaling.>>376620656
is b8ing

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>>376621165

>>376621165

>TES
>Potatobryo engine
>Good combat
>Ever

Lamoing @ ur lyfe t b h f a m

>>376621759
>nobody has defended level scaling
If only you could have seen then threads I saw.

why are oblivion mods so awful

not a single mod that makes armor less idiotic and ugly, or that adds variety at all, no relevant canon factions, only weeb shit

bullshit

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Why don't games ever get sky/fog lighting that looks this nice?

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>>376622142
Feels bad man.

>>376621385
>>376621650
>being this mad
It is a fact that there are vocal Daggerfall fans who think Morrowind is shit and it is not one cherrypicked retard like you claim. I have seen multiple people shit on Morrowind in the past. You were proven wrong so deal with it. No amount of sperging will make it true.

>>376622294

oh yeah and the canned animations for sex mods are awful.

i wish sex mods were something less game breaking, that there was a real challenge to courting someone and that it had real effects. Maybe it could be a tool to upset factions and get people out of the picture, maybe it could help you get benefits and manipulate NPCs, maybe it could land you a bad reputation or even a bounty, i'd love if they were more RPG minded in general instead of "suddenly the cyrodiil was littered with sex slaves dressed as modern schoolgirls lactating magic"

>>376622368
You can call me mad all you want, it wont undo the damage of outing yourself as a retard. Again, aside from the contrarian faggots of /v/, provide literally one single more piece of evidence to back up the initial assertion. protip: you can't.
>my anecdotal evidence is proof
Your retardation is quickly going from humorous to pitiable

>>376622884
>Again, aside from the contrarian faggots of /v/, provide literally one single more piece of evidence to back up the initial assertion. protip: you can't.
>Provide evidence that I agree with
>You can't.
You are correct I literally can't, because you will dismiss anything. You are one of those ignorant people who will never admit when they are wrong and there is no point in arguing. State precisely what is proof enough and I will look for it. As it stands you will just keep moving your goalposts.
>>my anecdotal evidence is proof
Don't believe it then if you refuse to. I don't see how I could possibly prove this without putting in more effort than this is worth and I don't care. I have unfortunately misplaced my folder of screencaps about this particular thing.

>want to play oblivion
>impossible to get mods working

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>>376595783
WAAA WAAAA

MY NOSTALGIA IS BETTER DEN UR NOSTALGIA

Please just fucking neck yourself you make other oldfags look autistic

>>376617391


despite our differences, i think Morrowindfags, Oblivionfags, Skyrimfags and even TESOfags should all come together and mock Prequelfags

>>376614306
>people who were 12 when Skyrim came out can now post here as well

>>376622769
>that there was a real challenge to courting someone and that it had real effects
Warband Dickplomacy is for you

>>376617190
>mfw they are changing engine just so they can make working ladders.

>>376624134
>Skyrim came out when I was a freshman in college and a newfag
>It's been almost 6 years later and I'm probably in the top 20% of oldfags now
kill me

>>376624720

you guessed my actual favorite game

but really though, TES is all about this bullshit, it would have made more sense for the Dovakiin to be a manwhore than to marry and adopt kids, it's a fucking viking inspired game.