NO MORE HITMAN

Just sell Eidos entirely, that whole venture has been one big mismanagement.

Should have made Absolution 2, but noooooooooooo, they listened to whining fans, ah well, they bet on a poor horse with 2016, it's a mediocre game with horrible business practices.

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>make a SINGLEPLAYER game that requires your ass to be online to play
>surprised people aren't buying it

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>>376591221
>Should have made Absolution 2

>>376591221

The problem was the dumbass release plan, not the fact it wasn't a rehash of the weakest entry.

>>376590949
>NO MORE HITMAN
Good. It was fucking hot garbage.
>episodic
>denuvo
>sold less than previous games
lmao. Suck a dick SE.

>>376590949
ffxv has a lot to answer for, nearly bankrupting them again

Good morning 47. Your next target is Matsuke Yosuda, president of Circle Unix.

>>376591319
Piratebaby, please.

>>376591226

Last I heard, the sales for Hitman were above expectations.

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>>376591307
Weakest yet best selling, as you see, they need something that will sell, 2016 didn't, Absolution did, why did Absolution sell? I gon't know, I love Absolution but it gets so much goddamn hate yet it's the best selling Hitman game afaik.

>>376591282
You hyped for Season 2 and 3 of Hitman2016?

>>376591307
>weakest entry
With best mechanics

>>376591367
XV not only broke even on day one but made profit too, fucking idiot

>>376591606
No.

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>>376591510
SE shill, please

Blood money = Contracts > 2016 > 2 > dog shit > absolution > codename 47

>>376590949
>Based sony is going to buy it

MORE EXCLUSIVES INCOMING BBY

>>376591513
IO's expectations maybe.
The game barely sold over a million units.

>>376591943
It's amazing how much old game sold.

what are the chances of bethesda picking them up?

>>376591991
Contracts > Blood money > codename 47 > dog shit > absolution > 2016 > 2

>>376591991
>the worst game is the only one that punishes you for slaughtering everyone

Your casual is showing.

>always online singleplayer """episodic""" game
who could have possibly predicted its failure?!

>>376592341
Ubisoft will grab it and have the stealth genre locked up until someone makes a new notable stealth IP.

>>376592351
Why did you crop the feet out?

>>376591943
>Absolution sold twice as many copies as Blood Money.

Why is the world like this?

>>376592351
>that enormous dildo
dropped

>>376592412
>IO makes a new Splinter Cell

I want this so bad

>>376592210
They went on sale for peanuts several times though.

>>376592449
That is what made me laugh at that image.

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>>376592478
>b-b-b-ut it was on sale!
fucking every time

>>376592412
>"stealth"
Also Arkane, if they survive their recent failures, still have Dishonored for "stealth".

>>376592430
wasn't blood money released on steam way after original release?

>>376592067
If anything I can see Microsoft buying it, they love that “games as services” shit

>>376592430
Absolution by itself has been on sale for like 3 bucks for years now, the franchise pack only really shows up during seasonal sales.

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>>376590949
thanks denuvo

Does this mean the studio will be closed? Well I guess we're all fucked if that's the case since the game still has Denuvo.

>>376592550
I'm not defending 2016's practices, but it's a fact that you'll sell a shitload more if you can get the game for like two bucks.

>>376592564
Ah yes, Dishonored, forgot about that, played part 2 for a while a month ago, didn't care for it too much. Maybe someone should make a sequel to the game Stolen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rLUnKLyPo

>>376592695
It also went like half price a month or two after it came out. I know that's how I bought it on amazon.

>Square Enix buys Eidos
>fucks up most of their franchises
>now they're getting rid of them

What if it was all an elaborate plan to sabotage western games?

>>376592612
No idea, played that shit on the ps2.

>>376592351
source

>>376591741
Probably not, the budget for it over the years was enormous, 5mil sales might not cover it

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>piratefags say hitman 2016 is the worst in the series because they can't experience the full game

every time. stay cucked piratefags rifk

I wonder how the Hitman marketer that used to post here swearing on his mother that the game would get a second season is feeling right now.

I remember bringing up that game D4 in old Hitman threads when discussing the business practices of the game, I brought up D4 because I saw Hitman going in that direction and here we are, another unfinished episodic game, I with episodic gaming would just die already.

>>376592463
Wouldn't be a bad idea to see them reboot SC, god knows Ubisoft can't
>>376592847
Nah, Square is just incompetent, look at FF4.0

>>376592913
Nobody will now because the series is shitcanned

>>376592791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A04DXJij8nA
A better video of stolen.

This video pretty much sums up all the problems I have with Hitman 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f9MjtWVzeo

>create a true return to form for the series and one of its best entries
>kill it with unnecessary always online shit and missable events like it's some kind of MMO
What was Square Enix thinking?

>>376592351

Give source or report

Hitman : Pitbull Edition sucks dick anyway

they should have just made a Blood Money map pack and called it a day

I hope SE supports IO until at least the end of this year so IO can properly fix all the shit that was wrong with the game, remove Denuvo and give us an alternate way to unlock suits, if they're cutting funding now we're pretty much fucked.

>>376592898
It did, it was already reported officially months ago that it did.

>>376593125
Can you really never go back and do elusive targets you missed?

>>376592913
>Piratefags say it's shit game
>Game bombs
>No more game for anyone
>Moralfags rejoice as piratefags can't play the game
>Ignoring that nobody else can

Fuck you, if piracy means success for the game, then let them fucking pirate.

I don't know much about game developing/publishing. Does this mean that IO won't be able to release more Hitman games unless they find another big publisher?

>>376593321
Not yet no, I imagine you can if they start repeating them but so far every single one is brand new, I don't know how much longer they can keep creating new elusive targets though now that SE put them on the slab support will probably end in a month or so.

>>376593125
I don't really get complaints about always online. I mean if you buy games today you most likely have broadband.

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>>376590949
>force Eidos Montreal to implement microtransactions into Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
>also force them to split the game up into several games
>first "episode" sells below expectations
>decide to kill Deus Ex entirely

>force IO Interactive to split Hitman 2016 into several episodes
>people are hesistant to buy despite the game being the best Hitman since Blood Money
>Square decides to reject IOI

>meanwhile, Final Fantasy VII Remake will be episodic
>pumped sheer endless funds into the abomination that turned out to be Final Fantasy XV
What is wrong with that fucking company?

>>376593406
There's no good reason for it to be there, if the game has zero online functionality outside of leaderboards it shouldn't require an internet connection in order to run.

>>376593392
They'll probably unlock every elusive target they made as the final update for the game.

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>>376590949
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU SQUARE ENIX, WHY DO YOU RUIN EVERY GODDAMN THING YOU TOUCH FUCKING COCKSUCKERS, THIS WAS THE FIRST GOOD HITMAN GAME TO COME AROUND IN TEN YEARS AND IT'S YOUR FAULT PEOPLE AREN'T BUYING THIS BECAUSE OF "MUH PIRATE BOOGEYMEN" FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I'M SO FUCKING MAD RIGHT NOW I HATE THIS FUCKING INDUSTRY

>>376591943
Also note that steamspy only shows the "ep1" sales at 15$ when all the other titles sold 1mil+ at 50$+

>>376593479
XV was good and sold at a profit, eat shit.

>>376593372
IO dont own the rights to make hitman games anymore

>>376593125
I don't think missable events would have stopped anyone from buying the game. Hell, most of the people buying the game (casual players) probably wouldn't have known that there are missable events. And always online, it's 2017, aside from a few vocal people on the net, this wouldn't have bothered anyone

>>376593372
No, it means that Square Enix is searching for investors to keep the studio alive and if they don't find any they'll probably have to sell the studio, it doesn't say anything about the franchise though, Square Enix owns the Hitman IP regardless if IO works for them or not so it's their decision if they want to sell Hitman aswell or not, probably not considering they still make those mobile games.

Are the rights to Hitman being sold with IO, or is SE going to hold on to them and stuff them away in a closet somewhere?

>>376593406
See Diablo 3 and SimCity's launches for what can happen with always online games.

>>376593527
Doubt it.

>>376593591
>>376593614
This is fucking catastrophic. I would have thought IO owned their own flagship franchise

>>376593568
Fuck you, weeb. You're part of the problem why Square gets away with it.

>>376593793
IO is owned by Square Enix though, they're literally an internal development studio, of course Square Enix will own any franchises they create since it's their money being used to make those games in the first place.

>>376593875
doesn't mean that Square has any rights to Hitman.

>>376593875
Was it the same situation back when Eidos was the publisher?

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>always thought steady decline in quality would kill my favorite game series
>turns out it's only corporate meddling
It hurts even more.

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>>376591837

>>376593930
It sure does.

>>376593948
IO Interactive was an independent studio at first, I believe the first two Hitman titles were made by them independently and Eidos only acted as a publisher, at some point Eidos decided to purchase IO Interactive to be one of their internal development studios which was around the same time Hitman Contracts came out, their independence stopped there.

>>376592948
At least Hitman has a finished "season", which is more than you can say for a lot of attempts at an episodic game like D4. I agree though that this whole idea of seasons and episodes needs to stop, it only ever worked for Telltale games and even then in only a handful of them.

Eidos got lucky with DE:HR and then showed nothing but shittiness with nuTomb Raider, Hitman and Thief and DE:MD.
Changing publishers probably wouldn't help since every publisher is shitty nowadays. I mean, who IS there? Vivendi (Ubishit), EA? They're even worse than Sqeenix. Activision? I wouldn't trust their Blizzard WoW devs to make anything good out of those IPs.

>>376591307
>Weakest entry
You mean best entry.
Absolution shits all over the others, but you wannabe "hardcore" faggots kept crying about the game having competent shooting mechanics and "waah focus you can see through walls which totally isn't anything like seeing where people are on the map in previous games waaaaah".

Absolution was the best, distantly followed by Blood Money.

>>376594193
>Eidos got lucky with DE:HR and then showed nothing but shittiness with nuTomb Raider, Hitman and Thief and DE:MD

Are you retarded or something? Only DE and Thief were made by Eidos.

>>376594216
>Absolution was the best

never has one person been so wrong

>>376594193
Take Two, 2K Games
Sega

>>376590949
I played this bit by bit every month on pc. The experience is similar to watching fast and furious for 15 minutes and then pause it for a month and watch another 15 minutes later. stretch it out for a year

IO deserve all this for trying to fuck over everyone

also the game runs like frog shit thanks to Denuvo

>>376594327
>Take Two, 2K Games

2K Games is just a branch of Take Two, they're not different companies.

>>376594384
That's why I mentioned them in the same line.

>>376594363
It wasn't IO's idea, though. It was either go episodic or be denied funding.

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>>376594304
I found an old picture of that anon.

>>376594414
Then in that case you should have mentioned Rockstar Games aswell.

>>376594327
>Sega Hitman
That actually kind of fits, I could roll with that.

>>376594495
Nigga, I do what I want.

>always online to have fun

IO are shit I'm glad it's dead

>>376594532
SEGA is kinda known these days for picking up PC focused devs so I wouldn't be surprised.

>>376594327
Capcom
Nordic Games
Atlus
Sony

>>376594579
The Hitman series has always been console-focused

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>>376594654

>>376594654
The first game in the series was PC only.

>>376594558
>not recognizing this was done to appease their publisher overlords
Fuck you and your blind SJW-like outrage.

>>376594654
Is that why the first game is only on PC?

>>376594698
This. Neets are real annoying.

>>376594696
>>376594697
>>376594729
3 replies almost instantaneously, I feel accomplished

>>376594654
Hmmm...I confused.

>>376594754
I'm >>376594698 and I'm a NEET.

No hard feelings, though. Being a NEET blows.

>>376594698
>>376594754
Only HITMAN has always online for fun
No other Square Enix game ever has that

It was IO's choice to have that
Post some proof that suggests otherwise tho

>>376594729
>>376594697
not an argument

>>376594786
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
The classic /v/ option select.

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>>376590949
>SE closes United Front
>no chance of future Sleeping Dogs games
>SE sells IO
>no more Hitman either
J U S T
U
S
T

>>376590949
This is pretty heartbreaking for me. I threw so much time into the new one and it was my GOTY

>>376590949
The new HITMAN was such a fucking snooze fest, they should've made it more challenging and interesting instead of cramming 700 NPCs in every fucking map just for a gimmick.
I expected Blood Money but I got an even shittier Absolution if that was even possible.

>>376594838
Actually, Hitman doesn't have always online. You can play it offline just fine. You just don't get any unlocks.

>>376590949
No season 2?

>>376594864
You also forgot how there'll be no more Deus Ex (at least for a few years).

>>376590949
Just because they're selling the dev team doesn't mean they're selling the IP.

>>376593365
t. Piratefag

>>376594863
hey I don't care if you believe me or not

>>376590949
the new one is trash, not sure what people liked about it. not a single mission was nearly as fun as the ones in Blood Money.

>>376594864
United Front was never owned by SE, they closed down because they couldn't secure another contract after their Sleeping Dogs MMO failing spectacularly.

>>376594967
You certainly cared enough to reply.

>>376591606
It was the best selling Hitman because it got released and hyped after a long wait from Blood Money.

>>376594926
Which is still pointless and awful
Are you defending always online features in an SP game?
Really?

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>>376594942
anon... please...

Get fucked Square Enix. Hitman was fucking great and you've now ruined any chance of a Season 2. You ruined Deus Ex as well.

>>376594838
>Hey let's do that.
>Oh fuck, people are freaking out about it.
>Let's not do that anymore.
Poor argument is poor.

>>376594940
No.

>>376595016
>admits it's not always online
>continues to call it that
Do you have actual brain damage?

>>376595010
Not caring doesn't mean 0% caring. There's still a base level of caring, enough to let the other person know that you don't care

>>376593826
Fuck off westcuck, hitman tanked

>>376591319
>It was garbage
>Proceeds to not list any qualities of the game itself

>>376594974
Paris, Sapienza and Hokkaido are all great missions, what are you smoking.

>>376595130
Why should a certain % of the game be always online when it's only?
Is that acceptable in your degenerate world?

>>376595139
>Not caring doesn't mean 0% caring.
It does, though. "Not" is a binary negation and indicates the absence of something. Would've been different if you had relativized, but you did not.

>>376595312
Not an argument.

>>376595385
Do you browse r/atheism by any chance?

>>376595157
Thanks to Square, yes.

Good thing we don't have to put up with them for much longer.

>>376595063
or the devs blew a fuckton of cash that they failed to recoup and SE is doing the only smart thing in severing toxic limbs instead of throwing more cash at them? food for thought

>>376595513
Square literally just funded the game, it tanked because the retarded devs at IO fucked up

>>376595012
That doesn't make sense though, people knew what it was and was going to be but they still bought it, all the things they claim to hate about the game were plain as day in the pre-release trailers, so I don't get it, shouldn't they have been shitting on it way before release and after release?

>>376595575
They provided the funds while obligating the devs to actions that lead to the game's failure.

>>376595608
It's the most basic rule whenever there's a sequel.

>The sales of a sequel are always based on the quality of its predecessor.

>>376591417
YES!

>>376591943
>Comparing a game that never went under 30 to games that were bundled under 5 dollaroos
OH I AM LAFFIN'

>>376593365
Good, you need a bigger wall for this level of prejection

Did anyone filled the questionary? I only complained about the story not being as fully developed as previous games for a stand alone title, and the stupid Elusive target shit.
t. Guy who waited until physical release.

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>>376592913
>I'll use their drm against themselves

Piratefags btfo

>>376595725
I see...so......it's absolution's fault that Hitman 2016 didn't sell well?

>>376595435
You're right it was a question
You're not gonna answer pussy?

>>376595904
Yes.

And in return, it means the large sales of Absolution are Blood Money's fault.

>>376595921
So you admit you lost the argument?

>>376596062
So you admit you lost the argument?

>>376593960
It's what happens when everyone wants high end graphics. Games cost so fucking much to make now.

I was under the assumption 2016 was a huge success? Didn't they expand IO's offices to start work on season 2?

>>376596171
It was a question
You're not gonna answer pussy?

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47 vs matsuda san dlc when?

Damn, I was looking forward to S2. I hope they remove the DRM at least.

>>376591282
Absolution is the only fun hitman

>>376596235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7vOecXOao

>>376596230
Yeah, that was their last status update: Hitman Season 1 was successful enough to warrant another season at least.

Fuck Square Enix. Too bad they won't go down anytime soon due to hordes of weebs gobbling up their shit.

>>376596262
He already lost lmao

>>376594216
>b-but guys, minimaps and wallhacks are pretty much the same thing!!! you're the ones who are bad at video games, not me!

>>376596380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XenEPPIP9Yk

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>people shitposting against 2016
>wanting I/O to lose dev rights to Hitman
>wanting shitty Hitman games published by SE not made by I/O
Why /v/? I love Hitman. I don't want anything bad to happen to the franchise. I'm still hurting from MGSV

>>376596230
>>376596416
Of course IO would say that, any dev would

The thing is that the episodic format bleeds the game

If someone buys the first episode, it doesn't mean they'll buy one more or the rest

So it really hurts the profit

It doesn't help that hitman 2016 went down in quality after Sapienza

>>376596023
Absolution sold well because it was a competent shooter instead of slow and repetitive like bm and 2016

>>376593406
You're about to lose everything linked to the server you haven't unlocked yet, retard. Hopefully, this opens your eyes.

I really hope whoever they sell the studio to also buys the Hitman IP
otherwise season 2 is neverever

I think the problem is Hitman is very much a "medium" (single A or double A game) that was having AAA money spent on it.

Hopefully SE and other publishers realise theres a place in the market for medium games so long as they don't expect ridiculous sale numbers at a.... "modest" development cost.

>>376596701
I hate fags like him
They have no reason to defend DRM but they still do

I guess Sumo Digital could do Season 2. They collaborated with IO for Colorado.

>>376591943
Absolution was on HumbleBundle $1 tier 2 years ago

>>376596786
Even when it directly fucks him up the ass, I bet he'll still be pro DRM.

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>>376590949
>Hitman dead
>Thief dead
>Deus Ex dead

Is SE the new EA?

>>376591221
Literally kill yourself.

>>376597017
In this case it does since the game is dead

>>376597025
It's not their fault the devs are shit
Mankind divided was a huge letdown, thief was also awful nu-hitman very meh

They should hire better devs, hopefully they learn

>>376597025
I thought Thief was Ubi

>>376597117
>Mankind divided was a huge letdown
Because they made Eidos cut it in half for a sequel that will never come out now and add shitty microtransactions
>nu-hitman very meh
New Hitman was great, arguably best in the franchise

>>376597025
SE has been the worst publisher for a while now.

>>376597214
Even with that in mind mankind divided was still pretty shit

The base game of that was just not good and the story?
So fucking bad

I agree on hitman but it should have been better

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>mfw SE cites a 4000+ million yen loss.
>mfw they blame it on IO and Hitmeme.
>mfw I can't for the life of me figure out how they could spend that much money on a sneaky-hidey-shoot one bullet game.
>mfw it's episodic for real.
>mfw steam.
>mfw always online.
>mfw Denuvo.
>mfw triple layers of DRM to protect bald guy #47: episode IV from the evil pirates.
>mfw missable, single appearance ever dudes you have to kill in a single try, or they'll be gone forever.
>mfw someone greenlit all of this madness.
>mfw all the asshurt 'fans.'

>>376591221
>Should have made Absolution 2
must be a troll

>>376590949
we wanted another blood money, they had one job

>>376597471
hahahahaha
THIS
I bought the game but IO are fucking retards and so are the fans defending them

>>376597370
>The base game of that was just not good and the story?
>So fucking bad
No shit, because it was unfinished, ended with a lame cliffhanger. Of course the story was bad.

>>376597609
Confirmed for never playing the game

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>>376597471
I don't even like this average ass series but this post is legit cringe

>>376597636
I mean it was bad even without taking that into account

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>>376590949
Who needs good franchises when now you can just churn out capeshit shovelware

>deus ex shelved
>hitman shelved
>nier tomato only sold 1 mill across all platforms as of march
>just cause 3 literally JUSTed
>life is strange devs working on doomed to fail vampire game
>put crystal dynamics on capeshit games
>rest of their pipeline is kingdom hearts and ff7 episodic disaster

next stop: rock bottom

>>376595651
They didn't obligate anything, they funded it and nothing more. hitman tanking was IOs fault

>>376597025
The devs behind those games were just shit

>>376597930
SE literally posted record high numbers in spite of hitman tanking
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1372281&page=1

>>376590949
can you even play in first person?

>>376598193
>>376598250
This
Square just needs to find good devs

It's good that these people are getting fired because maybe some good people will get paid now

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>>376590949
why dont they get rid of that shitty tomb raider company that rebooted the series with some flaky loser as lara croft.

>>376597637
bitch I played blood money several times

>>376595904
>I see...so......it's absolution's fault that Hitman 2016 didn't sell well?
pretty much it was so ass why would anyone trust the same people to make another game and expect it to not be shit?

>>376598370
They're on that mahvel mohney

Why are you guys only blaming IO or SE? Both are morons.

>>376598313
>Square just needs to find good devs
Good luck

So are they still currently working on the game?

>it's not enough for Japan being the cancer killing the industry but now they're doing this
2 nukes were not enough

>bbbbut you can kill your targets in a bazillion ways

Hitman episodic disaster lacks content

>>376599108
But it has more content than Blood Money.

>>376597025
You should retroactively add Tomb Raider to that list desu.

I have played Hitman 2, contracts, BM and 2016 several times, each one on release and years after and the only thing BM or contracts does better then 2016 is the OST and atmosphere, 2016 is an excellent game and a step in the right direction for Hitman.

>>376599246
What's wrong with Tomb raider? I've only played those 2 new games though, thought they are okay.

>stupid online crap
>episodic cash grab
>runs like ass on toasters
I own the first episode, and I played only 10 minutes
I need a new rig to play it, while I can play AK or AYYLMAO just fine

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>>376591226
Nigga it sold really well and was profitable, thats not the problem
The real problem is FFXV was sucha colossal failure that SE is DESPERATE to cover losses any way possible

>>376599674
The last game flopped enough to cause Square to shit the bed and give the franchise to another developer, the movie's going to flop, and in all liklehood I can't see Tomb Raider selling well anymore. People don't play puzzle/exploration games anymore, but if the developer tries to fuck around with the IP and make it something else, fans rightfully get pissed off.

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maybe now they will allow people to play old elusive targets to unlock all suits
i fucking hate it, i'm only able to get absolution suit because i bought physical copy in january

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>tfw your counter-shilling was successful

lol btfo

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>>376599921
i don't get this webm
>all npcs behind the scenes run away
>crowd npcs starts to panic
>you can see effect for detection so that means guards gonna run there soon and shoot 47
someone who made this just disabled minimap, sage

>>376600289
salty hitbot

>>376599759
What the fuck? Not only are you objectively wrong but you are fucking retarded on top of that. XV broke even on day one and has been making a profit ever since, SE literally cited XV as being one of the main reasons for profiting. See >>376598298

>>376599759
Nigga your dumb as fuck.

XV sold 6 mill and made profit.

Hitman flopped.
Deus ex flopped
Tomh raider bombed

I don't quite understand Square Enix

they release Final Fantasy after Final Fantasy, and they always look like trash to old FF7 fags, but who knows

nuTomb is quite nice, and the prequel too

nuHitman is also good
now they are literally trashing the studio, and they will keep releasing more weaboo trash

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>>376601120
JUST TAKE A LOOK at the humongous trash numbers of the FInal Fantasy franchise

WHO THE FUCK buys that shit in current year?
this is a legit question

http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=final+fantasy

>>376601196
>ports of 20 year old games that have been released into oblivious
What's your point exactly?

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>>376601270
let me take things further
this is all the square enix games on steam, sorted by units sold

>>376601120
Fuck off,

Tomb raider reboots are garbage and the most recent one is terrible. How does anyone defend them is beyond me

>>376601392
>>376601270
http://steamspy.com/dev/Square+Enix
see it for yourselves
Square trashes HITMAN, while FF still sells like ass
they should abandon FF for a while, desu

>>376590949
Maybe next time they skip always online DRM

>>376601392
what the fuck mate
why? they are nice games
I understand you may not find them good compared to the old ones, but they are solid AAA adventurers
have you honestly played them?

>>376601360
And most of those aren't two decade old ports that have been brought at retail price dozens of of years ago.

Infact most of those are games sold at 5 bucks. you don't see any recent game on that list besides rise of the tomb raider

So no season 2? Fuck.

That was one of the few vidya things I was legit excited for.

>>376601435
>XV sells 6 mill
>not a single recent Square game came close to those sales
>XV was one of their most profitable game

Only the new tomb raider made good sales for them but that game isn't made by this trash studio

>>376597471
This post is a meme but honestly it nails all the relevant points on why it failed.

Another coffin filled by Denuvo

>>376597930
>first four use denuvo
Lel, rly makes ur neurons fire

Fuck man.

Season 1 was great, and you could tell that they learned a lot and took a lot of feed back on board. Was really excited for Season 2.

Fuck.I thought Season 2 was pretty much confirmed, too.

>>376601360
>>376601435
>on steam
What the fuck does Steam have to do with anything? All the FF games already sold at a profit from their console releases, anything from their PC versions which are ports of literally decade old games is pure profit, are you fucking retarded?

Fuck man FF7 on Steam literally sold 1 million. Despite having already sold 10 million on PS1.

Hitman has like 630k on PC, FF7 PC port which is a 20 year old game sold 1 million. End yourself already.

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LET ME SHOW YOU WHY HITMAN BOMBED, SE

>episode
>8e
>in the PC market

>>376601936
>1 million
>in PC
Steam has about 130millions users... 1 million is next to nothing
ask Sega and Alien:Isolation, 2 million and sequel already discarded

>>376590993

I feel fortunate to have experienced Eidos in their glory days. The Tomb Raider series... Fighting Force.... Ninja Shadow of Darkness.... tons of other great games. Sucks for you teenagers in the modern time to have witnessed this company go to shit.

>>376601936
>2015
https://www.vg247.com/2015/02/24/steam-has-over-125-million-active-users-8-9m-concurrent-peak/

>>376602021
Where are all these other 20 year old games on Steam selling over 1 million? And just talking about console sales, FFXV sold 6 million within like 3 months and broke even on day 1 and made profit ever since, Hitman literally fucking bombed and didn't even come close to those numbers.

>>376602117
What the fuck does active steam users have to do with anything you stupid fucking moron? Show me at least ten other 20 year old games that have sold 1 million or more on Steam.

>>376592913
I'm a piratefag and it's definitely not worst. Still not buying it.

>>376602124
they only thing I can get clear from your point is that consolefags are weaboo collectors

>>376602182
literally the Hitman saga

>>376602203
The other thing you can get is that you were blown the fuck out and also retarded.

>>376590993
>people think eidos was always shit

Nigger, they used to be diamond tier. Check out their older games.

>>376602230
>saga
>Not even 20 year old games
Jesus christ you aren't even trying anymore.

>>376602250
blown from what?
what I am trying to say is that I don't even understand what are you trying to defend

I still believe trashing HITMAN is stupid as fuck, while releasing halfbaked FF trash
and I posted sales numbers to show how FF sells less than indie trash in Steam

if you are happy with your FF console sales, what the fuck do you care about PC to being with
fuck

>>376602317
you should accept defeat: on PC Hitman is more profitable than Final Weaboo
the last one was even a joke on mainstream TV thanks to Conan

God wtf. I swear, Square Enix is the shittiest publisher around. And now they've gone and made all but one of their western developers make cape shite Marvel Avengers games.

On the other hand, IO is clearly a very talented developer. This latest Hitman blew me away, in terms of environmental details. Hopefully they find their feet fast.

I wonder what this means for the actually game though? Everyones worries might come true-- the servers are gonna go down, right? Hope that IO have a good end of life plan ready.

And I'm sure they were working on Season 2, but I'm guessing since it was developed under Square Enix, they can't release it without them?

>>376602334
Your dumb as fuck that's why

Why has Hitman 2016 sold less than a FF7 port then?

>>376602520
>Why has Hitman 2016 sold less than a FF7 port then?
do I have to answer your question? the thread is full of reasons

>>376602505
I hope at least this leads to putting the episodes on sale
I won't buy an episode for more than 1e each

>>376590949
i dropped hitman 2016 after buying the second map in italy..you know why? cause immersion. what shit developer let a bug stay in where after the first shot at a human a bullethole appears but every shot after it dosnt let appear a bullethole. fuck this shit of a developer

>>376596606
>games not made by I/O
Don't worry, the franchise will most likely just be shelved forever.

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>>376602334
You are so fucking stupid it hurts.

>>376602880
like ground control

>>376602617
> europoors

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>>376602890
>>376602334
SE literally just had the best financial year they've ever had since being SE with FFXV being a major reason why.

>>376591943
Reminder that 80% of absolution team was fired and SE disappointed with its sales.

>>376591221
>Should have made a retarded decision

No.

>Mankind Divided was fantastic
>marketing presented it as a complete rehash of HR
>reviewers trash it for the ending
>Square forces in microtransactions that are wholly uneccesary, demands some online component
>controversy and online backlash
Flops

>Hitman gets near universal praise
>likely the best selling game in the series
I don't understand!

>>376590949
Why can't they sell Thief instead?

>>376593085
Hey kotti.

A joint Western-Japanese venture was never going to work. The Japanese are too obsessed with their own IPs.

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So we're not getting any more episodes? Fuck me they had set up a huge fucking cliffhanger.

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>Neo-/v/ defending publisher fuckery

>>376594193
>Vivendi
>EA
>Activision
>CDPR (^:
>Devolver

>>376603272
who is defending this stupid mistake?

>>376595312
>Why should a certain % of the game be always online when it's only?
>Is that acceptable in your degenerate world?
Do you have a steam account? (^:

>>376602890
>>376602954
>still can't understand my point about FF PC sales being trash

>>376603063
>likely the best selling game in the series

Except it isn't.

Also mankind divided is just too short in content

>>376593479
Stupid gajin don't know how to make vidya like Kimisami over here.

>>376591221
Absolution is the reason why Hitman started going downhill in the first place, you fucking retard.

>>376603272
its nu/v/, not neo/v/

>>376603442
Go and name 5 20 year old series selling over a million on PC

>>376603442
>20 year old game port sells 1 million on steam
>less than 1 year old game doesn't even reach 650k on steam
Really makes you ponder

>>376603481
Still a better game that Hitman 2016.

shit just keeps happening to hitman, just when it was about to get good

>>376603376
no

I HATE SQUARE ENIX!

Deus Ex, Thief, Just Cause, Sleeping Dogs, and now Hitman.

All these amazing IPs, down the drain thanks to SE setting unrealistic goals and general mismanagement.

Please please please let the IP go with IO and let them finish Season 2.

>>376603638
>just when it was about to get good
i know right? the game is really good, the only thing i dont like is that elusive targets disappear forever

>>376603720
>Deus Ex
Series went to shit
>Thief
Series went to shit
>Just Cause
3 was a literal rehash of 2
>Sleeping Dogs
Glorified button masher that doesn't deserve it's praise
>Hitman.
2016 was good but online only killed it

>>376603605
>>376603586

>>376603879
your point being...? I wonder why they went to shit, hmm...

>>376603879
It's almost like that was the point of >>376603720

Fuck you about Sleeping Dogs though.

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ITT: square enix management
Nice decision, lads
Keep up the good work destroying your legacy

>>376604252
IO is the one who fucked up, not SE. SE just posted record high financial numbers despite Hitman tanking.

>>376604103
>>376604236
It means you should be glad those games aren't gonna continue to being shit.

Sleeping dogs has some cool characters and VA but like, had any other western game had the same combat system /v/ would shit on it so bad

>>376599759
>Sold well
I bet if it wasnt for that fucking online thing, it would be flopped. Same thing as Mankind Divided. Stupid ass decision

>>376604375
>IO is the one who fucked up
>Implying that SE didn't pressure them into the always online and episodic bullshit

but there's no way they can't find more investors for such a critically lauded game right?

right?

>>376604542
Square Enix owns the IP.

>>376604559

i misread a thought they were seeking additional investors.

they should, though.

>>376592612
Steam didn't even exist

>>376604469
They didn't pressure them into anything, that was IOs decision.

>>376593875
When you sell a studio the trademark goes along with the company or else there's no point of buying the studio and you got ripped off

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>>376604859
>it was IO's decision to have the game be always online

>>376605029
guy is clearly baiting for replies, so stop replying.

>>376604236
>Sleeping Dogs
only completely hopeless dweebs liked it

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>Japanese dev looking the cull the westrash infecting it from within

Is anyone surprised?

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EA or Ubisoft will probably buy them.

>>376605139

>Ubisoft

Ubisoft can't even buy themselves out.

So what will Agent 47 do while waiting for ICA to be bought again?

>>376605217
>can't even buy themselves
Ubi is worth hundreds of milions(if not a bilion) dollars. IO is peanuts.

>>376597930
Nier selling a million was a success though

>>376603063
games with denuvo typically dont sell as much

>>376605217
The devs who made Division are literally 20 mins away from IO's new studio. I could potentially see them being put into a support role to bolster existing IPs... thought it would be very expensive support... Denmark aint cheap for game dev.

>>376601472
They can't be solid if they aren't as good as tomb raider 2 or bm despite having a higher budget and better technology. Nothing can fix that shitty writing. Tomb raider is uncharted doesn't even play like the old its really generic

>>376601957
That's expensive

>>376595575
>Forced the game to be episodic
"Square only funded the game guys!"

>>376605029
Yes it was. No other SE single player game is always online so why the fuck would SE specifically request Hitman to do it? It was IO who did it themselves because that's the game they wanted to make, all SE did was fund them.

>>376592749
looks like you should've bought more goy, can't blame pirates because it wasn't cracked until a year later :^^)

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>>376601360
>Hitman: Sniper Challenge
>$24.99

Inb4 square shut down the servers now
Wanna see those drones defending the DRM now

>>376603628
Here's another (You)

>>376607224
It's free with absolution I think.

>>376607496
Glad i didn't buy that shit game, i don't care if gameplay is actually decent, the model it's being sold on it's pure garbage and the game seems short as fuck, Hitman games were not just great for the stealth elements, the music, story, voice acting, it was the whole package what made them great.

>>376593479
They made Life is Strange

>>376591943
Reminder those old games were sold for 0.05cents each.

>>376607863
>Hitman games were not just great for the stealth elements, the music, story, voice acting, it was the whole package what made them great.

so just buy the whole thing instead of buying the episodes piecemeal, dunce.

Uh, does IO keep the Hitman and Kane & Lynch IPs?

Is this the time for the new Freedom Fighters

>>376607874
They published it. LiS was developed by some French company.

>>376608062
It's what like 7 fuckin episodes? In classic hitman games that was just when shit was starting to get real, then you have the autists that claim this doesn't matter because you can replay the game 30 times or whatever, core mechanics will never make a great game alone, if you don't have great music, voice acting, story, atmosphere then your game is garbage.

>>376607731
Apparently not I just checked.

>>376597156
Nope.

>>376608260
Probably not. SE will likely keep it just for the movie bucks and do nothing else with it.

>>376608468
https://steamdb.info/sub/18181/apps/

You sure?

>>376597025
>thief dead
>that's a bad thing

after THI4F I'm glad there wont be another one

>>376608695
Weren't they working on 2? I remember reading interviews where they said it to be on progress

>>376597156
Holy shit, how can you be so much of an idiot

>>376608842

I don't remember that, but I do remember reading that they were working on a movie.

Fuck, that's a disappointment. I was looking forward to new maps coming out. I was really expecting to hear something at this year's E3.

I hope IO comes out of this okay. Hitman 2016 is a good game, it deserves to get finished.

>>376608842
As I recall, they've only ever dropped hints but never said so outright.

>>376607496
I'm going to jerk myself off to the threads crying and screaming when the servers are shut down in a month or two.

>>376592847
Most likely, but all Square has done here is chip away at an iceberg. Western gaming is too giant to go down at this point, the best the Japs can do is sabotage a few western IPs here and there.

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God damn it. Hitman™ was the best game of 2016, it's not fair.

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>>376611008
>season 2 never ever

Was Hitman S1 really that good?

>>376611284
Yes. goty 2016

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>>376590949
>hitman
>episodic
>always online drm
>denuvo
>lack of profit

HAHAHAHAHA WHY WOULD THAT BE?

>>376611284
Better than BM in every way aside from music and atmosphere.

So yes, I'm mad at this news.

>>376611284
I thought so. The replayability of it was great.

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>>376590949
What the fuck is wrong with gaming companies lately? First Capcom then Konami, now SQ
>Cut MD in half due to fear that XV might not sell and plan to make it a yearly release
>whoops XV actually sold, what a surprise! Guess we don't need that Jensen anymore
>make Hitman an episodic, singleplayer game with online-only access and expect it to sell like shit
>Oh boy! People actually bought it? WOW! Guess we should get rid of the people that made it! What a fucking disgrace, am I right boys?

>Absolution: 3.6 million
>Episodic BS: 633k

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>376611357
denuvo has never shown to increase sales, I wonder why companies are still using it... all it does is make pirates butthurt and customers mad.

and I don't know if there's any correlation but denuvo games always ship with tons of bugs.

>>376611328
>>376611492

Is it worth the $60 asking price? It seems steep for what looks to be a short game.

>>376611748
it's a little buggy and rough around the edges but it's fun

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>>376611748
The game is as short as you'd want it to be really.
Hitman is strongest when you are replaying levels to get better scores or cooler kills. 6 level may not seem like much, but they are huge and really well made.
If you are just planing on playing once, then $60 is too much, but if you enjoying learning the map, and playing the best you can, then $60 is a pretty good price.

>>376611671
>Comparing the sales of a 5 year old game that's been part of numerous humble bundles with a game that's only a year old

You sure showed me, champ.

There were loads of fucking flaws with the game but unlike Absolution it's a fucking Hitman game where you do Hitman things in a Hitman fashion.
Bunch of wankers desu.

>>376597370
Nah. Mankind Divided was really well designed at its core, even if Prague being the only hub was kind of dumb. It's the fact that the game got severely cut down and rushed that is the real problem. A good example are the DLC missions, which are segregated from the main game so extensively despite the fact that they could've easily added things into a playthrough proper, and thus completing them means no real reward for the main game either. Shit like that really fucks with your game.

>>376590949
Getting out from under Squeenix would be the best thing that could happen to I/O and Eidos. Square Enix is an absolute dogshit publisher.

>>376591221
You absolute mongoloid. The new game is fantastic, it's their retarded episodic release that killed this game.

>>376612367
It's good for them in theory, yes, but Square has their grubby mitts on their good IPs; which means no more IO Hitman.

>>376600983
>sold 6 million
>needed at least 10 mil sales to cover development

>>376612367
SE owns Eidos, they are dropping IO. IO are shit devs.