Sakurai calls HZD a masterpiece

馬鹿外人が騒いでるね

>>376590918
Horizon is stress free because it's easy as fuck. Getting through Zelda requires actual thought and effort.

Call me when I can ride a fucking dinosaur
I wanted only one thing from this game and it doesn't have it

>>376590918
full quote:
>Overall, Horizon is more stress free and Zelda is becoming a tiresome routine. However, if you’ve played Zelda, you probably understand this well: the chores of Zelda are the most fun part!

However, if you’ve played Zelda, you probably understand this well: the chores of Zelda are the most fun part!

>>376590918
>zelda = hardcore
>horizon = casual
SONY BTFO

>>376591046
>Horizon is stress free because it's easy as fuck

I highly doubt you tried it. There are lots of hard fights when you fight multiple big robots at once.

>>376590918
>>376591025
>>376591046
>>376591117
>>376591141
>>376591206
SONY WINS AGAIN BABY!

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>>376591141
>>376591206
That sounds like Dark Souls "getting your shit pushed in over and over is so much fun" mentality

>>376591117
You could ride the smaller ones that are the size of a horse.

>Sonybro cuts out the last part

Niggers.

>inb4 alloy 4 smash xD

don't start.

Shill all you want, I'll never be interested in your red-headed stepchild game.

ITT: Nintendo defense force is out in full damage control.

>>376591046
>Getting through Zelda requires actual thought and effort.
Does it? Does it really? I love the Zelda series, it's my favorite Nintendo IP but I gotta say that the whole weapon breaking shit really bums me out.

>>376591306
If you're bad yeah

>>376591286
>being this desperate for a win
dude if it means that much to you - Horizon is better?
I mean... it's not and never will be, but if you're willing to lie to yourself this hard to be "right" I'd rather just give you than win.

>>376591046
>children's game
>requires thought and effort

t. Nintenbro

>>376591380
>make a thread comparing 2 games
>claims one is better with a misquote
>people call out OP being a faggot
>NINTENDO DEFENSE FORCE WOW

>>376591263
I was a focus tester for this game, nigger. I played it for 7 days from 10am-5pm, was paid decently for my time. The worst part was that Sony only ever bought lunch from 2 places. This one sandwich shop and a pizza place. The game is stupid easy though, the ropecaster is fucking easy mode because of how easy it is to spam.

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>>376591046
>Getting through Zelda requires actual thought and effort.

did you even play botw? none of the shrines took any effort, none of the divine beast "dungeons" are boss fights took any effort.

before you get triggered, i enjoyed botw because how comfy it was, but it was an easy as fuck game.

>>376591263
that's what Sakurai said anon, anon was just posting this because OP omitted that.

Sakurai also said that nowadays checking on players stress is also important for developers.

>>376591397
Well yeah, there's actual puzzles. They might not be super hard for the most part but there's thought involved.

>>376591141
>>376591263
OP confirmed for faggot and FAKE NEWS. You should apply to work for Kotaku. It's the perfect fit

>>376591141
That's the Nip mentality. That's why grinding Exp to Lv.100 and beyond is fun to them.

>>376591380
>GUYS, 2 + 2 = 5!
>actually, 2 + 2 = 4
>ITT: 4 defense force is out in full damage control

>>376590918
>HZD is easy
>Zelda is hard

This is supposed to be an insult to Zelda?

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>>376590918
>yfw he puts Aloy in the inevitable Smash 4 Switch port because fuck you

>>376590918

Post the full quote faggot.

"Overall, Horizon is more stress free and Zelda is becoming a tiresome routine. However, if you’ve played Zelda, you probably understand this well: the chores of Zelda are the most fun part!"

It's stress free because all you do is roll around and shoot robot dinosaurs, there are no puzzles or varied gameplay.

>>376591493
Not saying the dungeons are hard, but they do require SOME critical thinking skills. As opposed to none at all.

>>376591553
if a person gets stressed out in playing video games, youre taking it way too seriously.

>>376591380
He actually said he likes easy shit with no combat and then praises HZD.

He's making HZD look bad and Zelda look good.

>>376591473
Jokes on both of us fucker, I was an Xbot this whole time.

>>376591728
goalposts

>>376591706
PUZZLES ARE FOR FAGGOTS

BOTW is quality shit because of the combat and the insanely well done overworld.

>>376591046
brah, shrines are fucking easy. they're literally for children and combat is a joke.

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>>376591046
He's right. Zelda is all shrines and weapon durability crap in a big-ass world with nothing to really see or do. BotW is really a game for simpletons who don't think (or think about game design) critically.

I'm finally getting around to Horizon and goddamn its pretty buzzword. I dunno if I'd say it was stress free though. But I'm probably just bad at vidya or something.

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>>376591141
>OP links to the source
>somehow fake news
What did they mean by this? If anything op made a retard check, to see whos actually reading the article

>>376591309
Yeah thats why I won't buy this game.
it was one of the reasons I made the choice to buy a ps4
But nope

>lel let's just make them ride robot horses XD

>>376591817
I dont think you know what that word means.

its ok though. you can try again next time.

>>376591141
>>376591046
>the chores of Zelda are the most fun part!
wat? Because people totally didn't complain about the chore of sailing in WW, to such an extent that Nin put in a speed up in the remaster. Zelda was actually one of the titles that had almost no chores for the majority of the time, making it easy to get into as a kid and breeze through as an adult fueled by nostalgia.
>Getting through Zelda requires actual thought and effort.
Such as?

>>376591046
No. Zelda is a game made for kids

>>376591306
>over and over
Yeah, I suppose if you have a learning disability you might not find it much fun

Can't wait for the new Fire Emblem Protagonist and Alloy in Smash!

>>376590918
Sakurais also a dumb hack who road off the coattails of HALs talent. Like I give a shit about what game he prefers.

>>376592101
>Because people totally didn't complain about the chore of sailing in WW, to such an extent that Nin put in a speed up in the remaster.

actually anon, that is what turned me off WW, however in BotW, going from A to B you get to see scenery and find shit to do on your way there, you often get sidetracked because you see interesting things to check out, unlike in WW where you just saw water and more water and more water with nothing to interact with.

>>376592101
>tfw loved the sailing in OG windwaker because of how immersive the wind made it

>Sakurai calls them both masterpieces
>SONY WINS AGAIN

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>>376591869
>think about game design critically

>>376590918
>Sakurai is a casual

We have known this since Brawl

>If a game is easy to play, that’s definitely a good thing.
>Even recently, it has become a trend to take note of the amount of stress the player feels.
>But again, comfort and the fun of resource management are two different things.
He also says
>However, if you’ve played Zelda, you probably understand this well: the chores of Zelda are the most fun part!
Is Sakurai a masochist?

>>376592268
>road off the coattails of HALs talent.

He didn't need them to make Kid Icarus Uprising good.

I trust is directional skill.

Have you ever made a game before?

Or are you an Inafune?

>>376592907
I feel like it's an awkward translation and Sakurai is trying to describe 'comfy' stress-relief games.

He's saying that item/resource management in games is actually fun even if it's not as low-stress as games that are just about shooting at junk.

>>376592907
ALL of his opinions are objectively wrong.

Nintendo of the 21st century could NEVER make a game like Dark Souls and it's depressing to think of. Japan needs to stop making easy as fuck handholding faggotry if they want their games to start selling again.

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>>376593164
Oh yeah I remember the Western devs who made Dark Souls

>>376591728
This is coming from someone who decided to put a mechanic like tripping into Brawl.

>>376593164
>Nintendo of the 21st century could NEVER make a game like Dark Souls
Thank god
>if they want their games to start selling again.
You mean like MK8, which is the fastest selling game in the franchise history? Or like BotW, which has a 101% attach rate?

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>>376591487
>I was a focus tester for this game
I'm sure you were

>>376593724
How'd you manage to make her look just like she does in game?

They're open world, but that's where the similarities end imo. Not sure if a comparison is fair.

>>376593724
Just by posting that image, you already failed 2/3 points mentioned in it. Congratulations.

>>376593661
It's not that hard to get into, the office in San Mateo is almost always looking for people for testing.

>>376591046
ahahh zelda has shit average open world enemies compared to horizon.
While fighting a group of robots in horizon is closer to monsterhunter or fightin big daddies in bioshock.
But games are awesome horizon focuses on story visuals and combat while zelda focuses on riddles and freedom.

>>376591306
dark souls is like a megaman game. learn the stage and enemy attack patterns, or have a hard time

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>>376591487
Damn what a coincident i am currently a focus tester for the next 10 zeldas dude they are all shit :-O

>>376594238
>a developer in the Netherlands focus tests in California
I mean, maybe, but...

>>376594521
what fucking world do you live in where companies operate exclusively in one company?

and why would a dev anywhere not focus test their largest audience?

>>376591493
the divine beasts dont really seem to be dungeons. they come off more as an extension of shrines. As for the boss fights, they fall with in the normal zelda standards.

>>376594452
>dark souls is like a megaman game
Finally someone with a brain. Thats true. Dark Souls did nothing but bring the old arcade game difficutly into a modern context. Its all about learning and paying attention.

>>376594521
>SJW game focus tests in liberal capitol of the west to see if they like the game

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Lol at the butthurt itt

Looks like I've found another great shitposting image. Suck it Zeldatards. Someone needs to make a compilation image of all the people who've called Zelda's garbage, like JonTron, and Jim, and well, now Sakurai.

>>376594639
it really isnt that sjw in fact the leaders of the matriarchy are really fucking incompetent and the game world looks down on the matriarchy as savages

>>376590918
>"stress free"
That's just a nice way of saying "easy" and "casual".

>>376594583
I'm just thinking it'd be easier to focus test domestically.

>>376594659
why would you buy the game just to post that?

>>376594659
He literally calls it a masterpiece even in the OP...

>>376591738
>zelda
>not easy shit

ayy lmao

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>>376594659
>phoneposter

>>376594742
Open world as a genre is pretty damn casual.

>>376594659
Dude he said he loves both games and calls both masterpieces........

>>376594740
They mostly cared about if having a female protag was cool in the surveys.

>>376591046
No. That's why Nintendo games are so popular.
Because they don't require any skill. Anyone can pick one up and start playing.
That's not a bad thing.

>>376590918
Wow, I hate Sakurai more now.

>>376594659
Reminder that this was likely posted by an adult.

Best thing is how /v/ was certain that HZD would be downgraded.
>no, a sony exclusive game can't look better than tw3, it's impossible

>>376594745
Guerilla was big on outsourcing for this game, so I could believe it.

>>376591046
I've played about 90 hours of BotW, and no it fucking doesn't. The vast majority of the game is just wandering around, and seeing what you can find, and the shrine puzzles are Portal-tier at best. Combat is stone simple, and before you say "Muh breakable weapons", you can instantly replace whatever breaks with weapons that the enemies drop. Not to mention that the game becomes "Why can't I hold all these weapons?" later on.

>>376594836
Well it shouldn't be a problem if anything video games are more open to this than even movies looking at the history of Tomb Raider for example.
The only reason why some people now suddenly react negatively to some things like that is because sjw try to influence current games as well as movies and comics literally destroying hobbies they were even successful in a couple of cases (which mostly wrecked franchises like ghostbusters or now masseffect and therefore will probably not spread anymore.. hopefully)

>>376594957
He calls both games masterpieces dude
and he has a point both games are good fucking games that focus on different things.

>>376591487
Fuck me I wish I was a focus tester. If I was then the fiasco that was the Ratchet and Clank remake would never have happened (or they would have kicked me out I dunno).

>>376594756
>buy
>>376594818
>>376594759
and? It still triggers retard fanboys. Anyone autistic enough to get butthurt over someone disliking their favorite game, and thinking they gotta defend it on the internet to ensure the Switch succeeds, DESERVED to get shit on.

Literally the only reason I can't stand Horizon is the shitty animations. Did they fix that yet?

>>376595280
>Horizon
>masterpiece
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck you Sakurai, you traitor!

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>>376590918
>http://sourcegaming.info/

>>376591306
But it feels so good to overcome that tough boss you were fighting for so long!

Seriously though Souls gets a free pass that no other game would get purely because of its reputation. Everyone is too scared to even hint that the game is tedious and combat is like overcoming a hernia every time you swing your sword, not to mention the myriad of technical issues these games always have. The replies to this post are evidence enough of that. It's the cool thing to like.

>>376593556
>101% attach rate
Were they the tards who just buy Switch cartridges to lick them?

Why the fuck did that shit become a thing?

>>376595580
Souls combat is responsive and thrilling, man.

>The replies to this post are evidence enough

Oh. Forget I said anything.

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>>376590918
I love her so much, /v/.

>>376595445
Oh boy that is quite the emotional outburst, you ok dude?

>>376595889
You have shit tastes

>>376595889
ew

>>376595434
Someone that owns the game plz respond

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>>376596008
I've never even played the game. I don't even have a console. But I love her. I just wish she loved me back.

>>376591025
お前は日本語が分からないんだぜ

>>376596116
holy fuck this is peak pathetic. No wonder there are so many horizon shills

>>376594659
Uh he never called zelda garbage. Also jontron had a complete 180 on the game, check his recent posts about the game. He loves it. Jim also think its good, check his review and his subsequent twitter posts calling 7/10 a good score. this is pathetic

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>>376596067
I would comfort her and make her happy and shield her from the mean comments about her appearance. To me she's perfect.

>>376594079
It's an anon's obligation to post that image and then immediately leave. They have to make sure they sage while posting it though.

>>376596232
>>376595889
Your waifu looks like if the male protagonist of the bully tried to transition but didn't change his face at all. Sorry you're a faggot, anon.

>>376595328
>shifting goalposts
You said they called the game shit. They didn't. They all liked it to some degree. Sakurai called it a masterpiece. Jontron enjoyed it so much later that he is now trying to complete the compendium. Jim liked it, thought it was good, just bogged down by elements he did not like. You just want to shitpost and get (you)s, do you?

Also the switch and butthurt part is pure projection. There is zero way to tell who owns the switch and who isn't falseflagging.

>>376596116
I have a PS4 and I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot poll

>>376595986
Quite but the fact that Sakurai praised a SJW game makes me sick.

>>376596073
he is drunk the only thing that maybe counts is arrows flying to fast for gamer sensibility or what they are used to in games ( in reality arrows are actually fucking fast lol) but this is a gameplay/combat thing since everything is chaotic and fast.

>>376590918
HZD may be one of the most boring games I've ever played. It's honestly the first game I've wanted to sell.

>>376591584
Thats part of why he likes HZD,the level up system

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>>376596324
My other waifus include D.va and Judy Hops, ZPD.

>>376596390
Thanks for your informative response to my question about the animations Anon, you've made things perfectly clear now.

>>376596324
>Your waifu looks like if the male protagonist of the bully tried to transition but didn't change his face at all.
>male protagonist of the bully
>the bully
Literally nothing in this thread made me as mad as this did, you ignorant fuck

>>376596378
sjw game you mean the on with the androgynous protagonist that cross dresses? :) horizon isnt really that sjw in fact the only matriarchy in the game gets constant shit from everyone.

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>>376596176
>日本語が分からないんだぜ
それてめえの方だろ、カス

>mfw botw has better archery than HZD, a game focused on archery
What went wrong?

>>376596572
>Zelda
>SJW
Son

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>>376596359
Good, I wouldn't want my love hurt by being assaulted.

>>376590918
I haven't heard anyone talk about Horizon Zero Dawn since it came out. It's at best a mediocre game with ham fisted politics that despite the hype just vanished.

>>376596627
are you pissed that i hold up a mirror to the hzd=sjw zelda fans? Is this not allowed :(

>>376591046
>B-but it's easy if you just upgrade all of your gear and pour all of your spirit orbs into health!
Yeah? Your fault. I only had enough defense/health to survive 2 hits from a Lynel, and nothing more. The game was fun and challenging, because I didn't go out of my way to make it easier for me.

>>376596727
Cross dressing isn't SJW when the game frames it as a joke. You would know the context if you played the game

>>376596787
Really dumbass? How can you be wrong and interpret the post incorrectly?

>>376596706
>ham fisted politics
uhhh.... hope you realize every person on this planet that played the game now knows you are lying about having played the game, i mean you get that right? Watch a lets play thats the least that is expected of you...

>>376596930
Because I'm countering all the arguments shitting on him because it's "too easy"

Are you retarded?

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>>376596787
>game is really challenging because a rare specific mob is dangerous.
>Taking advantage of the game mechanic is now considered "going out of your way."

>>376596727
>Sony pony mad that his game is SJW shit
Stay mad pony.

>>376597018
Bullshit, either way the game is easy as hell. The only hard part is being able to dodge the obvious attacks from enemies but if your weapons arent strong enough then you can't kill.

>>376591948
That's a spergy reason.
Is it possible for you to like any game at all?

>>376597047
>summon in dark souls
>HAHAHAHAHA GAME IS TOO EASY
The developer has to put in ways to aid retarded players. You should know to avoid them

>>376597018
>countering argument
>It's challenging if you play with just one hand!

'k mate

>>376597217
Not an argument

>>376596872
Whatever you need to tell yourself to shit on horizon as sjw game,when it really isnt and even zelda has more of it in the game (yeah yeah zelda is useless and all that jazz) with androgynous elf boy crossdressing and a society fully controlled of powerfull competent warrior women. Compare that to horizon where the matriachy doesn really work to well and the world sees them as savages.
Again its just holding the mirror up to zelda fans that accuse a game of stuff their game does at least to the same level.

>>376597172
You can kill anything in the game as early as you want due to bombs. Stronger weapons merely expedite the process. The game is incredibly difficult if you don't follow the beaten path or raid Hyrule Castle early on. I've died well over 100 times, and I still die to Lynels because I don't react correctly or I push my luck and get hit by the AoE.

Saying the game isn't difficult because you can learn enemy patterns is like saying Megaman 1 isn't difficult because you can learn everything in it, too. The Yellow Devil is a difficult as fuck boss fight, even though it has an ez cheese method.

>>376597291
Not going out of your way to beef up all of your armor and your health isn't like playing with one hand. You have to consciously make the decision to lower the game's difficulty. Even at the 13 hearts minimum required to get the mastersword, you can regularly get 2-shot by stronger Lizalfos and Moblins, let alone Stalnoxes, Lynels, Moldugas, and Yiga.

>>376597418
I dont even get the issue horizon is already harder for the simple fact that you actually have a difficulty selection fucking play very hard and die form everything in 1 or 2 hits even in the end game.

>>376597047
There are several difficult minibosses scattered throughout the world. Given regions like Hebra, which have 5 - 6 Lynels in them, or the Igneous Talus fights in Eldin, it's not that uncommon that, as long as you don't go out of your way to beef yourself up, you can end up getting game overs just wandering around.

Hell, even Guardians fuck me up. They 2-shot me, so if I don't get the shield bash timing just right, I end up in a chalk outline.

>>376597531
And BotW is getting a hardmode too. It still requires far more skill than Horizon, because you have to adjust for physics when firing a bow, and, as long as you aren't wearing T3/T4 armor, you can get absolutely BTFO by even random encampment enemies by making one mistake and getting hit by a strong attack.

i like both

>>376597683
Kill yourself

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>>376597683
LEAVE

>>376596706
That's pretty much most Western games, to be honest. They get an absolutely massive marketing campaign before release, get critical acclaim and sell fairly well the first week then drop off the radar completely. When praising the games and even just talking about them no one will even remember anything about them, whereas Japanese games (and older Western titles) have every facet of the game discussed over a longer period of time regardless of sales? Why? Because they play to the strengths of the medium and craft distinctive characters, experiences and soundtracks. Western games have pretty much forgotten how to do this in their neverending quest to be taken seriously as a medium. They see typical video game conventions as obstacles (boss fights and so on) to the story and don't want them intruding on the narrative, and as such fail to utilise what makes video games unique and memorable and become completely forgettable in the process.

Seriously, look at any discussion about a Japanese game and you'll get a myriad of "oh yeah remember that boss/character/bit that was awesome/shit" and then try to discuss a story driven Western game and no one can seem to pinpoint ANYTHING about the game to discuss beyond rattling off generic muh cinematic experience nonsense.

I wouldn't say this is anything objectively quantifiable, it's just something I've noticed happening over the past few years. Westerners need to start making games again.

>>376597661
>It still requires far more skill than Horizon
No it doesnt. There's a reason why Zelda is one button "sidestep to win" mode. Because its a game mainly aimed at kids.
If you really think that it requires any kind of "skill", then you're simply an idiot. Most of the "skill" in BotW is simply required when players go out of their way to do things. The game itself is pretty straight forward.
Horizon actually throws enemies at you that require some thinking instead of "oh I just repeat what I did the last 900 times"

>>376596706
>that despite the hype just vanished.
Yet we've had plenty of threads about it. And no, I'm not talking about the bait threads.
What you're experiencing, as much as this guy>>376597814 is called confirmation bias.

>>376597826
>Horizon actually throws enemies at you that require some thinking instead of "oh I just repeat what I did the last 900 times"

>Scan machine
>Oh he's weak to fire

>Scan machien
>Oh he's weak to ice

>Scan machein
>Oh he's weak to damage

Lol so complex

>>376597217
>If you didn't beat the game at SL 1 bare fisted no magic with the Rock Band drums then you didn't play the game properly

This shits me off the most about Souls fans. If someone uses mechanics expressly put into the game as intended to be used by the player apparently they're "not playing the game properly". Any other game where you can do this or exploit a cheap trick though is fine.

>>376597826
You know nothing about Zelda. It doesn't have magnetic melee attacks like in Horizon. Missing is very problematic because you waste resources, so you have to be accurate, efficient, and quick. Not to mention that enemies pose a real existential threat to you if you don't have end game armor and health.

What you said is the equivalent of saying that all you do in Dark Souls is mash attacks and approach every enemy the same. You very clearly haven't gotten far in either game if you think fighting random mooks on the plateau is at all similar to the fights later down the line.

>>376597892
Exactly. Way more interaction than Zelda demands of you.
>>376598016
>You know nothing about Zelda
Whatever makes you sleep at night.

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>and Zelda is becoming a tiresome routine.

Sakurai described BoTW perfectly.

After the amazing first impressions wear off the game gets ridiculously repetitive. Exact same shit as Metal Gear Solid V.

>>376597570

I'll give you the lynels, but really that's it, every other miniboss/boss is piss easy, with or without beefing your armors.

And yeah, you can end up being one shot if you decide to not upgrade your hearts, but that's literally giving yourself a handicap, this has nothing to do with the game difficulty.

You can literally one shot guardians with archeonic arrows.

This is not going out of your ways, its playing the fucking game.

>>376591397
You know what would be cool? If you could register a weapon to your house and once it breaks it gets returned their with a cooldown until it's ready again like the Master Sword, that way you don't have to worry about loosing the rare stuff that you woudn't use otherwise.

>>376591025
>>376596584
fuck off to your nasty general on /int/ or a hannou blog cesspit. you fucking netouyo. learn english lazy selfish dumbfuck

>>376590918
it's probably easier to like Horizon when you live in a country like Japan where people just see it as a game as opposed to here where people see it as a triumph against white people and men and a million other things that piss me off before I would even come anywhere close to playing it, but good on him.

>>376595889
you a faggot, son?

>>376595726
I got a NA copy and a JP copy, If someone I know gets a Switch I have an extra to give away too

>>376598096
>demands
It's not even required lmao

>>376596543
>crossdressing is the butt of a joke
BoTW is confirmed SJW trash

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>>376598605
I'll be whatever i have to be to make my love happy and safe.

>>376598156
If you don't go for all Koroks and Armor Upgrades then I would say it keeps enough variety even towards the end, Shrines are annoying in the beggining but after about 60 you run into them less often and I wasn't hating them as much, it's just shit like farming dragons that goes to far though, taking something as cool an special as that and turning it into grind fest was fucking criminal, worst offense of the game.

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>people actually think he meant this
It was obviously a joke

>>376598827
i want to lick that belly

>>376599494
I want you to delete your psot

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>>376599494
me too, anon.
and I would wrap my arms around it as we lie in bed together.

NONONONONONONONO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>376599656
YEAH, TWO GAMES CANT BE GOOD GAMES. DELETE

Holy shit, people still talk about this game ?

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>>376590918
/v/, its time to stop the petty feuds an tiring grudges, so let's try something different. Depending of which game you have played, pick the other one and say something you like or think it does good. Be sincere, and honest, no matter how much you try, I'm sure you'll find something nice to say about the other game.

I'll start. I've played Horizon, and even if I'm not that interested in Zelda, I would love to have different meele weapons like in Zelda.

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>>376591607

>>376593037
>He didn't need them to make Kid Icarus Uprising good.
>Kid Icarus Uprising
>good
Game was a fucking clusterfuck of control and camera problems

>>376601395
Why are you people so retarded and weird and how long do you guys plan to post here. What are you even trying to accomplish, your posts don't even make sense.

>>376591473
>Horizon
>not children's game
>any video game
>not children's game

t. mature and hardcore gamer

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>>376590918
>>376591141

This. He was using nip speak for ''Horizon is too easy." in a polite way.

Grinding for Koroks seeds and Shrines are chores, and thus he thinks it's the most fun part.

Zelda is best

>>376601395
I would love to have zeldas physics in horizon and even some puzzles lol. And in zelda more complex enemy variety and a bit extended weapon durability think DS2

>>376590918
>That Contrasting Aspects section
Did Sakurai even play much of BoTW or get far into it?
>Large chunk of mechanical Guardian type creatures
>Sakurai seems to play BoTW like a faggot, not getting right into the battle and prefers to just attack from afar
>Sakurai seems to not know about - or just not acknowledge stealing weapons and eating uncooked food in BoTW
>Sakurai seems to have not followed any of Links memories - while not completely story driven and certainly not on the level of HZD Link indeed has a background and there's a story there
>Sakurai doesn't seem to know you are told where to go in BoTW, you can just choose not to do it and go your own way

>>376596706
maybe stop spending all day on a korean cartoon basket weaving imageboard. all my normie friends who have ps4 heard about horizon and almost none of them cares about zelda. nintendo isnt popular in europe, i guess its diferent in the us though

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>Professional game dev is respectful of the games his competitors make

Wow, it's almost like he's not an emotionally stunted manchild trying to push console war shit.

>>376590918
Mistranslation and incomplete quote. He basically said both games are well made but zelda is harder and thus more fun overall

>>376591613
>All of a sudden nintendo toddlers like horizon
What is this timeline?

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REPEAT AFTER ME:
SONY ALWAYS WINS

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>BOTW is the only game Switch has until November
>It's still inferior to a new Sony IP

Sakurai has shit taste and likes to choke on that sjw bbc then?

>>376603639
>Headcanon of the article
HAHAHHAHA "MUH TENDO" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

>>376590918
who?

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>>376591141
OP ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>376591141
>NIP mentality
No wonder they have such a large suicide rate.

>>376596219
Do you not see the trillion peach,daisy and rosalina. Atleast horizon protagonist looks like a real human.

>>376605552
>Atleast horizon protagonist looks like a real human.
Is this supposed to be a good thing?

So HZD is Sm4sh and BotW is Melee?

>>376590918
I haven't had time to fully play through either game so I'm reserving judgement, but why exactly would we take Sakurai's opinion seriously? He hasn't made a good game since Kirby Air Ride, and if I didn't know better I'd say he's actively attempting to sabotage the Smash Bros series, considering some of the absurd design decisions and anti-skill bias that went into Brawl and Tr4sh.

The guy is a hack. HAL Laboratories carried him with the Kirby series and Melee was a fluke.

I duno but it's less pathetic.

>>376605797
Kitty air ride sucks that same sonic adventure does. Only one mode is good in air ride. Only one character has good stages in sonic adventure one and two.

>>376606441
Well, to each their own. My point is still the same - it's been arguably 14/15 years (or more) since Sakurai actually made anything worthwhile. He can barely even play games anymore due to his calcific tendonitis. His opinions ain't worth shit, but people will stir the shit anyway because muh console wars.

/v/ is the worst.

>>376596787
If you have to artificially limit yourself in order to make the game harder, it's not challenging. It's like saying Pokemon is hard because Nuzlocke runs exist.

>>376606234
This is for>>376605649

>>376591613
She'd fit well. I'd love to see that.

>>376607293
Why?

I get what he means:

>Warp to the other side of the map
>Go to call your horse
>"Your horse can't hear you!"
>You have to travel to a stable, talk to someone for 30 seconds and then you can take your horse
>This could have been circumvented by allowing you to call your horse wherever you are
>This is very important for a game with a map of this scale and size

Don't get me started on weapon durability.

>>376598016
>Not to mention that enemies pose a real existential threat to you
Man, Nintendo sure lucked out on getting drones like you.

>>376591869
I... I want to climb all that

And play in that field

>>376607505
Because she more human looking why the Mario princess aren't they even any they cartoony and don't do much in their games minus peach but isn't consistent with that.

>>376590918
I'll call you a sonybro until my teeth turn white.

>>376594659
>ivrea
kiil yourself, dude

(and stop posting that shitty picture)

>>376607923
what

>>376607708
>using horses at all
Hm?

>>376607990
Nvm just know princessfagging is worse than alloyfagging.

>>376608174
but that's wrong

>>376590918
>Westerners hate on Western games and pretend that Japanese games are superior
>Japs hate on Japanese games and pretend that Western games are superior
Really makes you think

>>376590918
>Zelda is becoming a tiresome routine.
I think it's kind of hilarious that he says this about the most unique Zelda game we've had in over a decade. Kind of proves how out-of-touch he is. Should we really be trusting the opinions of a man who was responsible for putting 7 Fire Emblem characters in Smash Bros?

>>376609338
>I didn't read the article or the thread

He says right after that it's the best part.

>>376591869
I can't imagine how people get this shit literlaly backwards
BotW has the best encounter design, combat, and loot system of any open world game ever made

>>376607708
if you want your horse then ride your horse

>weapon durability
it's literally not a problem for people who aren't retarded. it's no different than running out of ammo in guns.

>>376591046
Yep. Horizon is a casual walk in the park.

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>>376591046
>Getting through Zelda requires actual thought and effort
Wait, don't tell me you actually believe this?

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>>376591046
>Getting through Zelda requires actual thought and effort.

>>376590918
tl;dr: I'm a hack

Nintenbros STILL defend their awful IPs

>>376595771
>responsive

No, it isn't.

>thrilling

Either you know the trick behind a level or boss and it's painfully easy, or you don't, in which case enjoy your trial & error with a side of rote memorization.

>>376610367
>Sonybros STILL trying to shit on Zelda using journalists who they claim are biased towards Nintendo
LOL

>>376594452
>>376594597
right, but learning and paying attention is fun. except for retards.

>DUDE AT THE END OF THE DAY I JUST WANT TO TURN OFF MY BRAIN AND WATCH FLASHY THINGS ON MY SCREEN
t. retard.

a non-retarded person wants to spend their free time doing something that engages their mind (even if it's just a fucking video game) because having their mind turned off is a painful experience

>>376610176
yeah thats why it has multiple difficulty settings what you gonna do against the cakewalk that is zelda after the first 10 hours? I give you a hint, nothing with the exception of opening your wallet and pay for difficulty settings "dlc" like the used and abused battered housewives you are.

>>376591572
it's just a shill trying to trigger people into reading the full article by using bullshit quotes

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>>376595889
me too.

>>376610861
Maybe you can do a 3-10 heart run like with any other zelda? Or restrict yourself to tier 2 armor? Shouldn't be that hard with some self control

>>376611118
>has to lie about the scores
neither of those games got those scores.
SAD

>>376590918
HZD sucked, but hopefully Sakurai's influence keeps us from getting more halfassed open world zeldas in the future.

>>376610502
>journalist
look him up fampai

>>376591723

Zelda dungeons are babbys first puzzle, all of them.

>>376611329
>using an article that has a clickbait title while omitting what Sakurai actually said
>while also simultaneously being poorly translated
Yes. Journalists

>>376611376
Still better than no puzzles at all lmao

I played both. Horizon's better. Fight me Zelda fags.

>>376611573
Nah, I don't fight retarded people

>>376591046
t. Someone who played Horizon on medium difficulty

>>376611731
Even on higher difficulties arrow spam and stealth are still OP

>>376591046
>All the other Sony shills replying to you.

I agree. The puzzles were good enough to make me think but not hard enough to ruin my enjoyement and pacing of the game. especially the fucking camel.

>>376611425
>He didn't actually read the article he just looked at OP's picture
Wew.
It is just a translation of what he said. It is his exact words.

So, he said exactly what Jim Sterling said and the ninteryeartolds still find excuses.

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>>376595889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUpPYvELLB8

daily reminder this is what you are defending

>>376611792
and you die in 1 hit

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>>376590918
How will Nintendownies EVER recover?

>>376611792
Nah. I started playing in Very hard thinking if it gets impossible to beat i should lower the difficulty. Best decision I ever made. The progression is rock steady, the equipment and mods is meaningful and critical. Also forces you to find different ways to approach certain combinations of robots. Stealth attacks will take as much as 20% of the medium size robots and arrows won't take any monster down unless you play around their armor first, which is not recommendable when fighting 3+ robots at the same time.

>>376590918
I'm glad horizon is doing well. I just don't have an interest in it. I can't connect with the main character and the gameplay doesn't look super interesting. I could see how somebody else could enjoy it though. It's certainly pretty

>>376611237
lol yes and i can also play blind with one hand doesnt mean the difficulty is suddenly ok and while we are at it horizon has multiple difficulty and in the same way of zelda challanges you can also simple not spend skill points or use armor with slots.
So the whole lol cake walk has even less merit for horizon. Thats why i call this bullshit out cause its bullshit.

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>>376613146
Even Sakurai said its flashy and rewarding. You should give the gameplay a chance even if the story and characters are not appealing to you. Taking down tobot T-rex with your buddy robot bull and robot horse is super satisfying.

>>376613547
Exactly. But on default horizon is more of a cakewalk than Zelda, I guess that's where the comparison is coming from. I do agree very hard in horizon is harder though, especially if you don't restrict yourself

>>376612454
daily reminder that you can nipick any game this is one of two sidequest cutscense that is bad.
There is nothing easier that nitpicking botw to borderline make it look like its two console generations behind and i am not only talking about visuals.

>>376613648
Dude you know you sound like a literal shill right now

>>376613732
Do it nigger.
https://youtu.be/aVPXKdSEGNQ
https://youtu.be/qEGWtyJAkO0

>>376613751
I knew I shouldn't use the word "super". We live in this era where we can't recommend a game without sounding like lame propaganda.

>>376613682
Definetly true horizon is not a "normal mode" game in fact i myself switched after the profing from normal to very hard and played the whole game which really forces you to use elemental weaknesses and armor weaknesses.

>>376591487
>The worst part was that Sony only ever bought lunch from 2 places. This one sandwich shop and a pizza place.

Is that supposed to be proof or why did you mention it?

>>376613937
yep, so I'm not surprised people call it a cakewalk, because it is especially if you don't fiddle around with it. I say zelda on autistic non-physical limitations is harder than even very hard on horizon though

>>376613843

worst durablity system in modern videogames combined with pausing active combat to switch to another paper weapon, enemie variety, below 30 fps, first nintendo open world and it shows thx to the inital stamina and cause there are only two things to do in the open world.
I mean i can continue but zelda is a good game and you get the gist also
The videos you just posted yourself are also good for this speaking from a visual standpoint.
look two generations apart which is even more telling considering horzion holds 30 fps and zelda doesnt.

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>>376597217

>game is about doing whatever the fuck you want before the last boss
>woooow wtf guys why did you get more health and stamina

>>376591141
>However, if you’ve played Zelda, you probably understand this well: the chores of Zelda are the most fun part!

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. I tend to find the grind more fun than the actual reward.

>>376591916
I enjoyed Horizon, but it's stress-free in the sense that it tells you where to go and what to do. Holds your hand the whole way, and it's really short for an open-world game so it never has a chance to overstay its welcome or start wearing you down.

And both games have very little payoff for what you're doing beyond simply enjoying the act of doing it. The difference is that in Horizon you clear like 5 cauldrons, the 15 hunter trials, and the 10 hour main story and you've gotten everything you're going to get out of the game. Everything is marked on the map as well, so there's very little exploration eating up time. With Zelda, it's all exploration, and it's a massive undertaking just to FIND every single shrine without a guide. It's great for quite a while, and then it becomes a real slog.

>>376614296
>only 2 things to do
Still 2 more than in horizon lol
>open world is bad due to stamina
Get a horse
>below 30fps
Not on Cemu
>Worst durability system
Not even close. The system is actually fun for me once I learnt to let go
>pausing while switching
Even modern games do this

You make no point, sadly, besides that you don't like X so it's not current gen

>>376611118
link is for boys.
https://assets.gelbooru.com//images/db/80/db807e86fe4df1a4c961dd157e3b8b8b.gif

>>376598983
I never had problems with the dragons, i casually ran into them constantly by chance. Except the fire one, but that's mostly because i didn't spend as much time in his area. I ended the game with 2 scales of the electric one, 3 of the ice one and a piece of horn in my pockets

>>376613937
Exactly what I meant in >>376613089
A friend is at the exact same place as me and has been playing for 15 hours with the middle bow, sharpshooter bow and tripcaster. While I'm at 60 hour mark with all max wepons. His game is in hard, he can just abuse fire arrows to brute force his way. Ravagers and Snapmaws doesn't one shot in hard, so he feels no need to use stealth and just abuse the medical pouches+potions. He ignored most of the cauldrons too because feels that overriding helps but is not as essential. It's way too different playing normal/hard than very hard for sure. Very hard is not punishing tho, since you can beat most monsters quickly given you took your time to decipher different ways to beat different combination of robots.

>>376614710
>fun for me
Good that you outed yourself as inept. Not even him.