Ninja Gaiden 2 PC port when?!

>>376590478
Shhh!!! If you give Team Ninja ideas, they'll just shit out ports of the Sigma versions instead.

>>376590478
>paper mache enemies and cinematic finisher moves

Fuck that, give me Ninja Gaiden Black.

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>>376590634
>they'll just shit out ports of the Sigma versions instead

thanks f-for bringing me back to r-reality...

Was sigma that bad? I have all 3 but I've only ever played ninja Gaiden black and 3's demo. Also, 3 seemed like shit based off the demo.

I hope never. Another great game community would be ruined by mustard neckbeards. Go play your undertale or something

>>376591192
Sigma 1 is mostly the same as Black, unless you're a nitpicky turbo autist. The only main gripe about Sigma 1 is the Rachel levels.

Sigma 2 has less on-screen enemies than vanilla 2, but has more projectile using enemies. Also, Sigma 2 took out all the blood. (Apparently, the Vita version added the blood back in, but I dunno myself)

>>376591192
>>376591461 here.

Vanilla 3 is an unredeemable piece of shit. Razor's Edge fixed it, but it's still somewhat worse than 1&2.

>>376591546
Okay, so I'll play vanilla 2 and razors edge 3 then?

>>376591587
vanilla 2 from what i hear have some fps drop in some areas but i dont kno if thats tru

>>376591461
Sigma 2 was a damn shame because it was mostly just objective improvements and scrapping some shitty bosses, except for the enemy count and the gore, which were the two best things about the game to start with. Ninja Gaiden 2 without the gore and the blood is just a slightly worse Ninja Gaiden Black.

>>376591053
Look up cxbx, soon my friend soon. JSRF is already semi playable.

>>376590478
>>376590634
I really want PC ports of this and Black, but you just KNOW they'd give us the Sigma versions.

>>376591546
>Vanilla 3 is an unredeemable piece of shit. Razor's Edge fixed it
LOLNO
NG3 Vanilla is SO MUCH BETTER than RE
RE is for dirty casuals

>>376591882
https://youtu.be/K_5dIUPs0_I

>>376591674
NG2 most definitely has some framerate drops in certain areas. Like that fucking staircase, man.

I dream of Team Ninja getting Itagaki back one day and making Ninja Gaiden 2: Black, fixing all of that game's problems and adding a shit ton of new content. Crazier things have happened.

can someone actually tell me pros and cons about NG BLACK vs SIGMA 1?

>>376590478
Do you think Team Ninja were serious about not making anymore PC ports because people made nude mods for DOA5?

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>>376591789
>tests of valor removed
>enemies removed
>broken balance
>instakill grabs
>damage sponge enemies
>adventure elements removed
>projectile weapons removed
>shit engine which can't handle the same amount of enemies as 360
>upgrade system fucked up
>objective improvements

>twn be a truly good NG game again
Life is suffering.

>>376592556
Sigma has fancier graphics in exchange of forced Rachel's chapters which aren't that bad but kinda break the pacing of the game. Everything else is very minor and doesn't worth bitching about. Sigma 2 is another story though.

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>this will be BC on xbone soon
>Scorpio will no doubt make it possible to play it at silky smooth 60 fps
feels good not being a sonyyger

>>376593218
>have to buy Xbone to play NG2 without framedrops
I don't know how I feel about it.

>>376592967
>Sigma has fancier graphics
Considering they actually removed Ryu's phantom trails, no.

It's actually a pretty sore point for me. The game looks that much more plain to me because of that.

>>376590634
>Get Sigma 2 port
>change enemy HP and number
>add more of their spawn points

There. It's just vanilla but with more content.

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>>376595447
>still purple mist instead of gore
I mean in theory you can fix combat a little but it still will be shitty Sigma version.

>>376596367
The latest sigma 2 version had gore. I'm sure a PC version would also have it.
That's the easiest thing to mod anyway.

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>Itagaki has spent the last few months deleting any comments on his Facebook page from people asking about Nioh and what he thinks of it

>>376596761
Too bad it looks like shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpyt82Gy35g

>>376591956
What in god's holy name are you blathering about?

>>376596984
They definitely have the sources of PS3 Sigma 2 with gore still.
It need to happens. Petition race do your job

>>376590478
I'd prefer a not Sigma PS4 port at 60fps. These games are played with controllers. Not KBnM.

>>376590478
Never. Enjoy Ninja Gaiden Z, and the contempt of Koei.

Given Koei Tecmo's history with PC ports I'm not that concerned.

I've never played any NG, what's wrong with Sigma?

So we are all in agreement that Ninja Gaiden 2 is the best hacknslash action game of all time right?

>>376592663
>>shit engine which can't handle the same amount of enemies as 360

What? It's the Black engine. That was basically what they did: Moved it from the 360 NG2 engine (which performed like ass, let's be honest) to a "more stable" engine from the previous generation at the sake of cut-backs.

Something that happens often when you optimize in video games.

>>376597336
>These games are played with controllers.

>Plug in controller into USB slot of PC

SO HARD.

>>376597493
Sigma 1 is fine, Sigma 2 is a terrible downgrade over the original X360 version, turning it the literal best action game of all time into just a pretty good but slow game

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>>376590478
>yaiba is the only "ninja gaiden" on pc

>>376597548
>It's the Black engine
No. Why are you even saying this if you have no idea what are you talking about? Sigma has different engine from Black. You can clearly see it because Sigma has loading times when you pick up items and Black has none. NG2 is rebuild with Sigma engine and it runs worse than 360 with the same amount of enemies. That's the reason why we have fewer enemies than 360 version, PS3 would shit itself with NG2 crowds.

>>376591461
Why did Sigma 2 take out all the blood anyway?

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>>376597735
Devs at that stage were still having trouble coping with THE POWER OF THE CELL, so having that hideous purple mist was easier to work with that blood spraying everywhere.

>>376597601
I don't care for a digital version on that jew place called Steam.

I want a nice looking box to go in my PS4 collection. Ninja Gaiden 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. It deserves to be on the PS4 as well at least.

>>376590478
>Team Ninja doing anything with Ninja Gaiden post success with Nioh and the jewery with DOA5 DLC
Never ever.

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I still can't quite remember to this day why I just dropped NG2. I adored NG1, fucking loved getting the cyborg outfit and the vigoorian flail. Alma was a great boss, Kietsu was an awesome weapon so why NG2 feel so flat? Seriously I remember getting up to the aircraft mission? That's about it.

>>376598216
with ng2 the combat is better but everything else is a bit worse imo

>>376598216
Maybe the lack of variety? NG2 didn't have any puzzles or slower parts at all IIRC. It was just straight up combat from start till finish. It felt much shorter as a result but the weapons and combat were a fucking treat throughout.

>>376598216
I remember getting stuck on the aircraft mission my first playthrough because I though the IS ninjas during the Genshin fight spawned infinitely so I ignored them.

>>376598537
I thought the same, but I got through that fight by spamming healing potions.

>>376598476
>puzzles or slower parts
Funny, that's the reason why I dropped Black.
NG2 so much better. I have a super deep battle system to master, who have time for puzzles and walking.

>>376598476

Could be it, it's been god knows how long since I played it but I think the intermissions where it was more focused on puzzles and jumping all over the place gave it the combat some build up. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd never played a game like NG before maybe I've got nostalgia goggles on. Is it on PSN?

>>376592572
Didn't they release stuff for PC after that?

>>376598961
I felt the same way but I always wished that NG2 was longer like Black was. It was also missing a lot of unlockable shit after you were spoiled for choice in Black. Did Sigma 2 add more unlockable stuff? I can't recall.

Razors edge is better than 98% of games

>>376599076
Nope. Koei Tecmo the publisher yes, but nothing at all from Team Ninja themselves.

>>376590478
When Xenia gets much, much farther along development than it currently is.

>>376592137
Jokes aside, this is more progress than any xbox emu has ever seen.

>>376599146
no

>>376599146
Not with that input lag

>>376592967
I prefer Sigma 2 to vanilla because I'm a rabid sony pony mouthbreather with dingleberries for brains.

>>376597635
You can emulate Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword, it's pretty goddamn good but kind of sucks without a real stylus.

>>376591053
>i only play the game on easy mode

>>376597735
>>376597792
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if taking the blood out was done to improve NGS2's performance. NGII ran so fucking poorly at times I swear it almost killed my Xbox. Ninja Stairway.webm, etc.

Does anyone know if the Xbox 360 marketplace version of Ninja Gaiden Black run good?

>>376601038
Isn't it 1080p@60fps?

>>376601038
It has the fastest loading times of any version of the game, IIRC. Only issue is the cutscenes are kind of fucked, everything else is smooth from what I remember.

>>376601509
>>376601414
ok thanks

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>>376590478
I want a new proper Ninja Gaiden, but with Itagaki gone, I can only dream.

>>376596812
I guess even someone as arrogant as Cookie Monster knows that taking a pop off at Nioh and/or current Team Ninja would make him look particularly salty after the whole DT debacle.

>>376598961
I thought NG2 had better combat, but way more flaws to the point where most of your deaths come from BS projectile attacks or grabspammy enemies.

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>>376602123
You have everything to deal with IS spam.

>>376602567
It's been 9 years since the very best character action game has been released.

It pains me to know that we will never get another one. Other games just can't compare.

Unfortunately we would just get the Sigma versions. Best to just hope progress on Xbox/360 emulation happens before too long.

>>376602123
>>376602567
Honestly, I swear half the time of any Mentor or MN run consists of the screen being covered with IS explosions, it's kind of preposterous.
It's not even particularly difficult from all the i-frame moves you have, it's just really goofy looking.

>>376602567
BEST GAME IN EXISTENCE

MAKE SURE YOU FUCKS VOTE FOR IT TO BE BC ON XB1

>>376602707
Agreed
>>376602786
Game definitely could have been much better balanced with this crap. Wanted to beat MN so bad but couldn't. So I had no choice but to drop it.

Favorite weapon after dragon sword was probably the claws.

>>376602961
I would buy an Xbone if it runs constant 60FPS on it

>>376590478
Didn't they fucking lose the source code?

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Help, I've finished the game but I'm stuck at mentor.

>still don't understand when does the orbs instantly trigger a UT.
>Should I even bother with any other weapon than the lunar staff?
>Are you supposed to intentionally despawn enemies like rocket launchers instead of fighting them?
>Can I use the max hp rising items or I must spare them for some bosses that are inpossible to defeat without the extra hp they give?

>>376602786
>half the time of any Mentor or MN run consists of the screen being covered with IS explosions, it's kind of preposterous.
Except you are talking out your ass.

Ch.1, 2, 3, 11 has a lot of them.
they only briefly appear in extremely small chunks in ch.4, 6, 13
ch.8 has a forced gauntlet and 5, 10 encounter is completely optional.
If you were to count every encounter in MN or Mentor IS Ninjas will most likely not even take up half of the encounters.
I don't get why/where or how this meme got even made.

>>376603419
>ch.4
mind slipped. You fight a fair bit of them in the chapter.

>>376602990
>>376602123
Which was more bullshit in the end, NG2 MNM or 3RE MNM

>>376603208
That's the story that's been floating around for years, yeah. Also apparently the first Sigma is in a similar state to the infamous RDR on the development side.

>>376603041
I ALREADY HAVE ONE BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

THEN I CAN TAKE SCREENSHOT, IT WILL HAVE V SYNC AND BETTER FRAME RATE, AND THE NEW CONTROLLER

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>>376603310
>still don't understand when does the orbs instantly trigger a UT
Anytime you charge a strong attack, either by holding strong (never do this) or on land (always do this)
>Should I even bother with any other weapon than the lunar staff?
Yes because FUN (and the dragon sword is really strong and just best for bosses)
>Are you supposed to intentionally despawn enemies like rocket launchers instead of fighting them?
What?
>Can I use the max hp rising items or I must spare them for some bosses that are inpossible to defeat without the extra hp they give?
That's your call, but dependant on the game the bosses shouldn't make you waste more items than you can hold really, or else you're doing something wrong.

>>376603310
>orbs
Red, blue or two yellow orbs trigger full UT. One yellow orb triggers ET.
>weapon
Just use whatever you like. Some weapons are better but every one is viable.
>intentionally despawn
You aren't suppose to do it but you can.
>hp rising items
Better to hold yourself, yeah. But again, you don't have to.

>>376603593
NG3RE UN
That hellicopter gauntlet near end of day2, day 3 base gauntlet, day 4 gauntlet near the elevator room, day 7 gauntlet before masked Regeant, day 8 6 prototype god gauntlet and the gauntlet before it.
Fun times.

>>376603593
NGS2 MNM. Fuck those instakill grabs.

>>376591896
They lost the source code for Black

>>376603931
That didn't exactly stop some games from getting remastered

>>376596984
Is it 60fps? That's all I care about, might dust off my Vita for this

>>376604008
>Vita
>60fps

>>376604008
It's not, and it still slowdown like a piece of shit anyway.
But with an overclocked Vita it runs better than the PS3 version overall.

>>376603310
>Are you supposed to intentionally despawn enemies like rocket launchers instead of fighting them?
Cannot remember a single rocket launcher encounter where you can despawn them.

Quick tip for every retard that are having trouble with them. use the fucking incendiary shurikens. They can not block them like certain enemies do. They can't fire rockets with one arm. You can also hitstun them with regular shurikens.

>>376603419
Wow, it's almost as if it was a slight exaggeration or something.
Maybe it's not literally half the game, but for the time when they're actually on screen the explosion spam is legitmately absurd.

>>376604352
Nothing a few UTs can't clear desu

>>376604523
No one said otherwise. It's just an eyesore.

>>376604352
>explosion spam is legitmately absurd
Fucking hardly. Serious Sam aaaaa's are absurd. CoD WAW veteran grenade spam is absurd. This shit is babby tier.

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I want a new episode with the girls

>>376605750
Why? Girls feel really clunky in NGS2. Their chapters are annoying.

>>376606020
They were great in 3RE
I also got good with Rachel, I clearly get the best times with her

>>376606325
>They were great in 3RE
Too bad RE is shit and everything is nerfed in that game.

>>376597735
probably to secure a lower CERO rating

>>376606446
It's not shit. I'd say it's low are REALLY fucking low but overall I prefer it over Sigma 2 (but obviously not vanilla 2)

Also Ayane is absolutely fucking OP in 3RE. Meanwhile Kasumi is the only character with a proper setup against some Alchemists, unlike even Ryu.

>>376598537
Use the claws if youre having trouble with is ninjas. X+A into flying swallow into izuna drop kills the regular ones easy

>>376606325
They would have been a fun diversion if they werent fucking forced on you during Ryu's campaign. I hated them in the sigma versions and i hated them only slightly less in 3re

https://youtu.be/jl3sHTKYK5c
This is the best song from the Ninja Gaiden series. Prove me wrong.
you can't

>>376608962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXMwex2yx-4

>>376608962
>song
>nobody's singing

>>376603208
Also. Tecmo, Inc., a subsidiary of a Japanese company, announced a federal lawsuit Wednesday against Mike Greiling of Eden Prairie, Minn., and Will Glynn from Davie, Fla, for alleged violations of US copyright law and the controversial Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

According to the complaint, Greiling and Glynn were webmasters of ninjahacker.net, an online forum dedicated to creating custom content and modifications for certain video games. Also included in the suit, filed January 21st in Illinois, are up to 100 anonymous users of the site, whose identities the company vowed to unmask.

"[W]e believe it is our duty to uphold the integrity of our work," said John Inada, general manager for Tecmo, in a statement. "Hacking of this kind will not be tolerated and we intend to take all necessary measures to protect our intellectual property."

The lawsuit claims the ninjahacker.net users decompiled the code to several Tecmo titles, including Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive 3, and Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball, and figured out how to create their own "skins" that change the appearance of game characters. They swapped modding techniques and hundreds of custom skins over the website message board.

>>376609139
Nice.

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>>376605750
Technology improved.

>>376609986
This is super old right?

>add new characters to play as
>make them obligatory and part of the main campaign

why do they do this? re4 did it right, make that shit a bonus mission.

>>376615237
2005.

>>376615587
Because Hayashi is retarded. Those chapters could've been nice bonuses as side modes but instead shit is forced.

>>376615587
Their small move list and lack of additional weapon is the actual issue, as well as making them exclusive to their own levels

They should just have done this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ixT-jIEgTk

That's one thing 3RE did (almost) right

>>376590478
I want to see more Xbox / 360 ports in general. Both of mine crapped out on me and I can't be assed to purchase refurbished ones.

Where the fuck are the ports for

>Genma Onimusha
>Gunvalkyrie
>Jet Set Radio Future
>Metal Wolf Chaos
>Blinx
>Ninja Gaiden Black
>Ninja Gaiden 2
>Bullet Witch
>Culdcept Saga
>Dead Rising (Wii game is shit)