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Sources: BioWare Montreal Scaled Down, Mass Effect Put On Ice For Now

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>"In the wake of BioWare’s polarizing Mass Effect: Andromeda, fans have wondered where the lauded sci-fi series will go next. The answer, according to people familiar with the studio, is nowhere—at least for the time being. BioWare has put Mass Effect on hiatus and turned Andromeda’s developer, BioWare Montreal, into a support studio, according to four sources close to the company."

>"Mass Effect: Andromeda, released in March, was originally envisioned as a reboot for the franchise but went through a brutal development process for several reasons including technological challenges and a major scope change late in development, people familiar with the game said."

>"Reception to Andromeda was lukewarm, and people scoffed at its writing and animation."

What went wrong, /v/?

http://kotaku.com/sources-bioware-montreal-downsized-mass-effect-put-on-1795100285
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>>376587986
We can debate whether or not Andromeda is a good game until we are blue in the face. The fact of the matter is that they had 5 years to make this game. They had the full support of EA. Andromeda should have been, and needed to be, a slam dunk of video game perfection. Especially after the controversy surrounding the original trilogy's ending. Andromeda was more than the next game in the series, it was the relaunch of the entire franchise.
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>tfw the bad guys lose
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So why's BioWare's new IP called Dylan. What could it mean?
And what's a "live service" game?
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>>376587986
>linking directly
nice try tortilla
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>deus ex shelved
>mass effect shelved

next: assassins creed
there just might be a small ray of light in this dark age of video games after all.
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At least use the PCgaymer link, slightly less bad than Shittaku.

http://www.pcgamer.com/report-mass-effect-on-hiatus-bioware-montreal-transitioning-to-a-support-studio/
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>>376587986
>What went wrong
equal and inevitebly failed opportunity
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>>376588116
because bioware spits hot fire
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>>376587986
So did Gamergate won?
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>>376587986
>What went wrong, /v/?
EA got Star Wars and said we don't give a fuck about this Mass Effect shit no more.
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>>376587986
Really who was the target audience for ME Andromeda?
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>>376587986
It tried to be everything but an ME game. There is no hook, you don't give a fuck about the villain whatsoever, the characters have depth but it's not interesting, the worlds are bland with bland shit to do, being completely open world means level design suffers and no scene can truly stand out because you can go there earlier or just walk away and do something else, the music fucking sucks, they didn't even set up scenes with that awesome lighting the first 3 made a staple of sci fi games.

It's a goddamn mess made by people with either no passion or too incompetent to make a stand and not just aim for the widest audience possible.

The combat is the only thing that works and even that pales next to 2 and 3. I haven't played far enough to say but I assume it doesn't have space child bullshit and blind ninjas with magic like 3 so maybe that's an improvement. But for the sake of all fucks they couldn't even avoid terrible faces and animation with a budget of $509218585586559350 when a fraction of that a decade ago shit out better.
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>>376588563
Just to be clear Star Wars >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mass Effect just by merchandise alone. I'm talking about money no quality.
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>>376588618
Tumblr. Problem is like only 30% of the ME audience is women, so that's not enough to keep the franchise afloat.
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>>376587986
>BioWare has put Mass Effect on hiatus and turned Andromeda’s developer, BioWare Montreal, into a support studio, according to four sources close to the company."

Fucking leafs are going to infect other EA games with their shit? Good. The faster Bioware and EA implode, the better.
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>>376588618
They figured if people would eat up the dogshit that was ME3 they'd eat up absolutely fucking anything so why put forth any effort whatsoever.
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WE DID IT LADS
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>>376588924
>>376588468
Yup
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>>376588116
>So why's BioWare's new IP called Dylan. What could it mean?

I imagine it's the rebooted Shadow Realms game. Or maybe EA?s looter shooter or whatever the fuck kids call it these days. Their Destiny/Borderlands.
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>>376588382
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END OF RIME
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>>376587986

EA got Star Wars so they no longer need Mass Effect. So they funded a cheap ass game with inexperienced staff to squeeze the last drop of profit out of the franchise.

Bioware Montreal has been downsized. Will probably be forced to make a mobile game to gauge how malicious microtransactions EA can get away with and will be closed down after.
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>>376587986
No pastebin, no read.
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>>376587986
>major scope change late in development
uhh what change, it was supposed to be good at first or something?
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>>376587986
Bioware Montreal was always a support studio for the other ones. In fact, it was weird they landed with a new Mass Effect project in its entirety.
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>>376589253
They gutted the company to underpay a bunch of inexperienced newbies, remember?
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>>376589021
I always thought Shadow Realms was meant to be their Destiny.
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So is BioWare finished? Did we win?
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>>376588116
It'll be an overwatch clone, they've been hiring for multiplayer-centered positions lately.
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>>376587986
That's what you get when SJWs prioritize thier agenda over the quality of the game
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>>376588116
>Dillon
what kind of stupid name is that and aslo seems to me its gonna be another cash cow open world shoot n loot mmo trash
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Even Noah (guy who makes videos about rpgs) didn't like it and he liked Inquisition and ME 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0VKHnwArQ&

That really tells you how objectively bad the game is

>>376588116

I think its weird corporate speak for a game that will have lots of online features (like Dark Souls invasions), and possibly always online, and maybe the game will have a big multiplayer component if not the whole game be multiplayer focused.

Publishers like this because it sounds "innovative" (to investors?), makes it pointless to pirate, more replayability, and it gives Jewing opportunities (microtransactions, subscription fee etc.)
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>>376588618
People who think Joss Whedon TV shows and movies are the pinnacle of entertainment.
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>>376589381
MOBA? thought it was a destiny+division ripoff shit
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>>376589490
>Even [some fag no one's ever heard of] blah blah blah
This whole differing to internet nobodies' opinions thing is getting old.
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>>376588237
Ass Creed was already kinda put on hold. Instead of just pumping one out every year, Ubisoft said they're going to take the time needed to make it good.
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>>376589785
>Ubisoft said they're going to take the time needed to make it good.
So... they're never releasing another one?
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The game was made for a niche audience that wanted diversity and LGBT rights, which is odd since its only a niche % of gamers in those groups who care or buy games based off skin tone or the gender of the character.
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>>376589631
Just because you live in a cave doesn't mean that someone who's popular and well respected's opinions doesn't hold more weight than yours.
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Why would they do something like this so soon after it came out? Now people definitely aren't going to buy it if they know the game won't lead anywhere.
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>>376589490
I cant trust someone who liked ME3, but to hate MEA dang it hit a sore spot and really shows how ass MEA was killing the whole franchise. Well at least its dead now and there will never be another one made.
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>>376589490
He was actually dumb enough to buy MEA knowing that the devs are racists and said they would do everything in their power to stop people from making white characters because their racist?

dam that is some srs kind of stupid there.
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>>376588563
>>376588710
>>376589203
I get the logic behind this, but EA gets paper thin margins on SW most of the profit goes to disney, so there is a lot of value in them having their own off brand Star Wars things which is why they tried with this.

EA only makes major profit off Battlefield at this point since their other big brands are all from the most Jewish of companies so the royalties they have to pay out is insane. Not to say they don't make profit off Madden/Fifa/Star Wars, it's just not as much as they'd like.
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>>376589994
but there is like 80 genders, and if you look at the revolving door site where employees who leave a company talk about why they did. At bioware most left even the writer because they were sick of having all this ridiculous gender bender shit shoved down their throat when they knew it wasnt the reason anyone would buy any game in the history of ever.
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>>376589918
>Just because you live in a cave doesn't mean that someone who's popular and well respected's opinions doesn't hold more weight than yours.
Actually, it literally does.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-authority.html
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>>376587986
Will play at some point for <$10 like I did DAI.
Will probably be just as let down.
Still really fucking butthurt about what they did to Dragon Age.
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>>376589253
Game was supposed to be procedurally generated.
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>>376589534
>tfw watched buffy and Agents of shield

Will I actually like this?
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>>376589918
keep sucking off e-celebs man, your parents must be proud as fuck
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>>376589882
The ambient occlusion is real.
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>>376589918
>some e-celeb faggot that nobody cares about
>durr hurr his opinion matters more than yours!
Fuck off.
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>>376589918
What a faggot
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>>376588050
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/6af4fo/no_spoilers_bioware_montreal_downsized_mass/dhe1d34/
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Once I heard online about that racist guy that worked there I knew it was game over for the game since he was in charge of so much of the games production he could destroy it in too many places to bother even caring about it.
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>>376587986
Nothing, absolutely nothing. EA kills yet a other company, adding them to the growing pile.

The real question : when the fuck will people realize EA is a fucking shit company?
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>>376589631
i don't know how the fuck it got this way, i swear to god, watch yourself around /v/ if you ever have more than 10 youtube subs or you just run a gaming channel. /v/ will suck your dick clean off. I too have never fucking heard of who the cock snatcher is raving about.

/v/ - shitposting and ecelebs
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>>376589976
>so soon
hasn't it been a month or two?
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>>376589882
I-is this real
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anyone who didnt buy MEA is a racist nazi because you cant stand that it stands up for LGBT rights and promotes diversity as games are supposed to do.
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>>376590173
I don't know. Do you think a game written by people whose sole influence are his works would be something you enjoy?
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>>376589976
It's been over a month, sales aren't going to be higher than in first few days anyway.
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>>376590282
Bioware owners didn't care. Made the deal and retired.
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>>376589918
>well respected's opinions
>he liked Inquisition and ME 3

Oh so it's just neo-/v/, I see now.
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>>376590293
you best be dreaming boy because yes sadly that is all real hit up google or youtube for more.
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>>376590285
>The less subscribers you have, the cooler you're.


with every generation, a dumb new way to be a 'hip'.
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>>376590293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ADHqDevmE

People knew almost a year ago about how the company hired a bunch of racists that want whites dead calling for it on twitter and feminists and all kinds of people with no experience in gaming.
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>>376590136
Sounds like you're a fiend for butthurt.
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>>376590374
>The less subscribers you have, the cooler you're.
That's literally not what he said. At all.
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>>376590282
Weren't they voted worst company in america recently?
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>>376589882
>tfw Skyrim modders made better animations than so called "game devs"
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>>376587986
>kotaku
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>>376588618
I have an internet friend that gigglesquee'd on Facebook about getting a fucking Funko Jaal, expressed excitement about the new reveal that Asari are actually trans and not filthy penisbait women, and is currently stockpiling testosterone for injections, despite a decent number of other friends questioning this move (privately after past meltdowns) after crying wolf multiple times in the past RE: gender

This is the target in my mind
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>>376590339
I don't know. A game is more than writing.
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>>376590245
So many people defending it! It makes me sick.
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>just bought ME Trilogy on g2a
What am I in for?
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>>376587986
Good.

Mass Effect deserved to die for the ending to Mass Effect 3.
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>>376590282
>>376590282
>when the fuck will people realize EA is a fucking shit company

and this time, the company to die was not just some og dev that released some sort of hits back in the day, thats also gotten quiet over the years because the industry has changed.

This was bioware. This was fucking MASS EFFECT. the franchise has fans from nearly every walk of life. The collective rage from these people could actually make a PR disaster that isn't just a once or twice off like the golden poo thing. If people wanted too, if they truly wanted there could have been a real boycott organized. sure nigs and turbo normies would have still purchased their sports games, but those alone could have kept the bloated beast alive.

if the death of mass effect, a multimillion selling franchise couldn't bring EA down in flames, nothing ever will. They are now too big to fail.
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>>376590709
rough beginnings with solid gameplay at the core with the latter games being worse trade-offs of this balance.
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>>376590709
ME 1: RPG
ME 2: Shooter/RPG
ME 3: Shooter
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>>376589882
I've seen animations done in 10 minutes by 8 year olds that look better than that. But then again this is from the same company that thought that a stock photo+10 seconds in photoshop was acceptable back in ME3 so guess that that was to be expected.
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>>376587986
All of Canada should shut down or outsource their game studios to Texas.
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>>376590709
Mediocre to decent series all around which completely shits the bed at the end.
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>>376588086
feels good mang
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>>376590709
>g2a

you trying to get scammed
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>>376590709
>me1: pretty decent rpg with fairly clunky combat
>me2: combat is somewhat improved but still pretty meh, sadly the rpg aspect has taken a bullet to the head during it
>me3: generic budget scifi 3rd person shooter - the blue, green, and red edition
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guys, they are only human, they make mistakes, don't put the blame on them
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>>376591052
who is to blame if not the humans
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>>376591257
Geth
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>>376591013
epic reddit meme
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>>376587986
>Polarizing
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>>376590282

Everyone at already knows. But games like FIFA and Starwars games are basically merchandising for the most popular things ever which only ever grow in popularity. FIFA sells more every year.

EA is basically untouchable.
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>>376591052
Really? REALLY?!

Fuck you. Fuck everyone who stands by and allows this type of shit to happen. Fuck those who accept these mentally ill child-men as if they weren't trying to change the very way we live. Fuck anybody who thinks it'll end at calling people Xim and Xer instead of normal damn pronouns. Fuck all who support the current feminist and black lives matter movements as they mow down society as it was to force inequality down everyone's throats. Most of all fuck anybody who has ever called for the head of somebody just based on their skin color, religion, or (normal) sexuality.

We need a fucking Order 66.
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>>376588116
It's about spitting hot fire
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>>376590483

Sounds like an audience that will make businesses tons of money!
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>>376591472
Jews are okay with me.
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>>376587986
It's those damn hyper entitled gamers I tell ya.
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>>376588237
Deus ex is fine.
I'm not gonna pretend like it captures what made the original great, but i think it's a good game and not complete trash.
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>>376587986
member when anons used to archive or pastbin articles?
member when OP got destroyed when linking to the original arcticle link?
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>>376589253
They decided to revamp the whole planetary system about a year before the original launch (ie. late 2014), forcing them to pretty much scratch everything they did before and start over again.
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>>376588238
It's called a pastebin you technological illiterate downs child.
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>>376591052
fuck off /mu/
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>>376588116
>Dylan is a gender-neutral name given to both males and females
>this is Bioware

Tranny game confirmed.
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So I guess this means no story DLC for Andromeda
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>>376588050
Is is that the geico gecko? sorry to bother you...
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>>376591820
more bioware downsizing incoming
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was that cosplayer girl who was head of animations on andormeda got fired?
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>>376591875
Guess so, and they definitely were aiming for a quarian ark one. Oh well.
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>>376589882
>Hired feminists who said their goal was to make all female characters ugly so men wont objectify them.
>Hired a woman because she said she hated men to be the animator with zero experience.
>Hired a writer who said online rape has to stop from GTA calling herself a rape survivor.
Prove these.
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>>376590709
read Karpyshyn's Mass Effect: Revelation and then play ME1 and then drop everything else and forget about mass effect entirely because the continuation from there is horribly disappointing
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>>376592167
It's an axiom, so no proof needed.
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>>376592167
Sam maggs was the supposed gta rape survivor who became an assistant writer.
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>>376591472
He's just meme-ing by quoting that Mass Effect: Androgynous launch trailer theme. Calm your tits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPOlAPsazHs
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>>376588116
>Dylan
>Dyl-An
>Dial-In

They're gonna phone it in for cash. just you wait.
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>>376589379
BW Montreal is finished.

>>376589418
This is one of the things why I think that EA is going to can BW Montreal.
This is also most likely one of the reasons why Casey Hudson left the project, also >>376591795 this would also coincide with the time Casey left the project.
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>>376588924
>We
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>>376590709
>bought
First mistake lad.
Also ME2 is the best, ME1 is an extremely nostalgia fagged game on /v/. I'm pretty sure these fucks didn't play on insanity.
You can unlock that in the files if you want to do a complete insanity run btw.
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>>376587986
They employed mostly women. This is what happens when you let women create video games.
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>>376592562
The last game I played on highest difficulty was Brutal Legends, im quite bad at vidya and always play on second highest
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>>376587986
this returned a bit of my faith in humanity
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>>376592562
Eh, Insanity isn't even that hard. Just forces you to micromanage a bit more.
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>>376587986


Why would you want to work at EA? One fuck up, and you are on the chomping block, and from what I've gathered, your own bosses put you their with their decisions.
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>>376588050

So basically even if it can be considered a "good" game it wasn't good enough.
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>>376592665
Fair enough, ME1/2 can be extremely tedious but ME3 gets real fucking ez.
Anyway lemme give you some real advice:

- you can nail the consort by renegade optioning her quest gift, you get the gift and the purple fuck bubble
- flirt with your yeoman in ME2 enough and she'll come to your room and dance for you
- help out the secretary chick on Noveria in ME1 then Ilium in ME2 and she'll kiss you
- don't romance Liara, she's a shit
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>>376587986

No skin off my back, series has sucked since 2.
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>>376593042
If it wasn't god's gift to mankind it was still going to be put down. EA needed it to be the second coming so that all the sins of the original triology could be washed away and the game could go down in history.
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>>376587986
>Dylan
>Dylan Beekler

Are we getting a game about cute goth lolis? I might buy that.
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>>376593042
Not with their self contradicting politicized writing and awful characters it ain't.
Step 1 to making an enduring video game, make it fun, and make characters people like
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>>376588618
People who are believing there are more than two genders
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>>376587986
Good riddance. I'm one of the most vocal blind fanboys to the ME franchise there is and even I hated Andromeda. Sure, I played through it on Insanity but it wasn't all that much fun. Completed it for completion sake. Uninstalled right after. At this point I don't care if ME dies. They fucked it up. They fucked it all up. Rest in peace, let me have my fond memories of the older games and just let it die already
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>>376587986
> mfw I was excited about this game when it was announced.
> locked out of the original trilogy, unsure to play it because of the ending.
> mfw I though "this is my chance to play Mass Effect finally".
> mfw this game sucks ass, not only in the graphics and animations (which I can tolerate), but also in every other way.
> No alien husbando for the fags, just a greasy bislut and a literal who character.
> mfw I wont be able to get into Mass Effect at all, because Andromeda won't be able to redeem itself.
> I will never be able to gay fuck an alien.
> No Avitus/Scott Romance for me in the future.

Feels so bad, I wanted to play this game and I wanted to like it.
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>>376593303
why is that animu shitting dog treats
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>>376593138
>don't romance Liara
>flirt with the yeoman
Might have that backwards my man.
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>>376588563
I can't wait until nobody wants to buy Star Wars games anymore because EA keeps churning out crap.
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>>376593450
Dylan is from an American cartoon.
But she's still adorable.
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>>376588050
I think this is the most hilarious part of the hole disaster, EA gave them everything. A huge budget, 5 years of development time, creative freedom. They only have themselves to blame for delivering complete shit.
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I would love to see a behind the scenes documentary styled video of how they managed to fuck it up so badly
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>>376593434
> locked out of the original trilogy, unsure to play it because of the ending.
What the fuck does this even mean?
Just play it you sperg. The ending is shit, but the outrage was because of the buildup over six years.
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>>376592167

Second one was an animator who had a demo reel with a feminist 3d short where the main character hates men. So the 2nd one is a bit dishonest.

Third one is completely true however:

https://youtu.be/neTTQLbmhcA
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>>376593605
If Disney cutting off 30 or so years of expanded universe+releasing 2 shitty movies on top of the horrors that Lucas inflicted on the brand isn't enough to alienated SWfags then there is nothing that EA can do to stop people from buying everything SW related in masses.
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>>376590709
Cancer
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>>376589882
>this is what videogames look like in the year of our lord 2017
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>play after patch
>new quest added
>impossible to go back and complete
>new outfit added
>impossible to use if you've already completed the game
>AVP max level increased
>impossible to buy new perks if you've already completed the game
>NG+ quests fixed
>only if you create a new playthrough
T-thanks Bioware
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>>376593665
I'm sure that they'll figure out someway to blame them evil entitled gamers for all of this.
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>>376592297
>>376589882
>gta rape survivor
it's stuff like this that makes me wonder where humanity has gone so wrong
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>employing anyone from Canada, ever
>expecting quality and not SJW-filled retarded bullshit pandering to the mentally ill
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>>376587986
Not that anyone should care about anything Bioware, but being a Leaf directly from Edmonton its important I tell you this:

EA has given Bioware Edmonton a sales margin that the next 2 IPs must meet in terms of units sold as well as profitability or Bioware is done.
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>>376594049
Blame the switch from hunter-gathering lifestyle to agricultural lifestyle desu.
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>>376593934
What's the new quest?
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>>376594182
The new Deus Ex games were pretty good.
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>>376593530
Kelly dances for free and doesn't fuck up any romance options.

Liara is great in ME1 then turns into a jaded fucking SPOOK with creepy spy cameras everywhere. Skeeves me the fuck out.

>Thessia in ME3, she bitches at earth for not sending help
>Javick goes on to shit on her AND her entire race about how they failed Prothean hopes
Best part of the game desu
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i like this

better to see the ip die in peace then be raped even more
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>>376592297
>>376593832
I don't think Sam Maggs worked on Andromeda though; she isn't credited.
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>>376594367
Tbh Asaris had it coming.
>what do you mean that you're supposed to share the beacons for the betterment of the galaxy?
>trying to build our own relays? fuck off, I would rather spent most of my life by fucking around than by trying to figure out how the our only method of long range ftl works
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>>376592167
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>>376594542
she claimed to have been hired as writer on social media and given the writing of andromeda i believe it
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>>376589882
The key thing to remember here is that any political posturing isn't genuine; it's all done for money. Presumbly these were at least acceptable enough to get hired on their merits.
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>>376592167
>>376594626
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>>376594258
>Blame the switch from hunter-gathering lifestyle to agricultural lifestyle desu.

More like switch from industrial to post-industrial lifestyle.
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>>376594629
"Writer for Bioware" does not equal "Writer for Andromeda".
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>>376594634
>fill your game full of shit that alienates mainstream gamers
>it's all done for money

Why are you running interference for (((them)))?
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>>376594681
That's not "zero experience" though. Isn't facial animation a low-tier job, since nearly everything's mocapped these days?
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>>376594802
Because they think that there are more people that like that shit than people that don't like that shit.
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>>376589543
Overwatch isn't a MOBA
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>>376594806

She's a cosplayer. She has no previous experience in the industry. None.
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>>376592750
God I loved watching Remember Me flop. All those articles about how no one would publish it because hetero white males are a plague on earth and it ended up selling miserably. The fucking hubris was delightful to see in a crashing freefall.
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>>376594913
Three years at an animation studio. Actually look at what you post.
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>>376594684
dude i dont fucking care she like many bitches are spouting crap on social media and given the endresult of the game its more than believable that they had a hand in it

maybe bioware shouldnt hire insane people who claim to run shit online and we wouldnt have these talks
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Do you think EA learned at all from their pandering, or will they continue forgoing skill for diversity?
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>>376587986
>technological challenges

I'm sure
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>>376595002
Drawing cartoons has nothing in common with video game animation, bro.
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>>376594806
yeah and she managed to fuck up even that
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>>376595002
i worked at google for two years in the accounting sector does that mean i can claim to come up with "insert new innovation here" because i officially worked there?
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>>376595096
She was doing 3d animation. Who the fuck does hand-drawn animation anymore?
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>>376595052
i think Battlefront 2 will be the deciding game. companies didnt excpect the culture shift that came with the trump election
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>>376594049
Jews
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>>376595034
What I'm saying is she probably can't be blamed for Andromeda. I can get you the list of credited writers if you want.
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>>376595204
>Who the fuck does hand-drawn animation anymore?

People who have money and want to invest in quality
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>>376595054
damn m8 that's the sexiest peebee pic i've ever seen
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>>376595286
no one blames her for the writing retard but hiring these people on top of the idiots you already had running around broke the camels back

just check the bioware company reviews
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>>376595225
The culture shift came before the election, otherwise he wouldn't have been elected.
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>>376589305
It will be their Dirk Sauls.
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>>376595225
They have so much fucking money to throw at Battlefield. The fact that one of the main characters is going to be a jaded old Empire pilot who fucking hates the rebellion/new republic is a solid idea. They have the money to hire writers and voice actors. I want it to be good, god damn it.
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>>376595349
The original post was definitely linking them to Andromedal, though. I'm not denying that Bioware is incompentant and makes bad hiring decisions; I just want to see the right people blamed.
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>>376589918
>you live in a cave
Noah Caldwell-Gervaise lives in a van. Literally.
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>>376594684

But its bad enough regardless and you can easily see why that kind of hiring practice would contribute to Bioware's newest game being shit. Because if they hired her, then theres a very high chance the game project also has a lot of SJWs working on it.
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I have an honest question for anyone who managed to play the game through:

Is it ever explained why Peebee is called Peebee? I've assumed it's supposed to be a cutesy initialization of P.B. like R2D2 being called Artoo, but I've not seen anything conclusive one way or another.
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>>376595685
It's a shortened form of her full name, yeah, which is apparently very hard for humans to pronounce, despite not actually being very complex or hard to say.
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>>376587986
Hahaha, glad that I was never a fan. Masseffags BTFO!
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I'm glad but i'm not clicking on that.
Why would you link directly
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fuck bioware and fuck minorities
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>>376595363
>The culture shift came before the election, otherwise he wouldn't have been elected.

Didnt stop the companies from pushing out propaganda though. The Trump Victory solidified it. In the case of Andromeda development started during the social justice high of the west yet released right at the pendelum swing
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>>376596227
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whatever happened to the poo in loo who proudly hated white people? is he still with bioware?
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>>376596459
No.
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>>376596459
he left on "good terms" a bit before release
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>>376596459
He "left" to work in a indi studio

I think the 2 fucks who suported him get enough, or just EA discovered his twitter
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>>376587986
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>>376596178
If I were an online "journalist" I really don't see any reason why anybody wouldn't post their article on any anonymous message board.

It would be irresponsible not to post it.

Even getting a couple hundred clicks from retards without scriptblockers would ensure your boss sees your articles are getting enough ad views to keep you around. Easiest way to prove your worth ever. Me, I have to do actual work and have something to prove for it; online writers, just post that shit on Reddit or something.
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>>376596594
This pictures never fail to piss me off. The number of bodies EA has left in its wake is heartbreaking.
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>>376596668
In the case of Andromeda EA did everything right though. They gave Bioware enough time and funding to get shit done
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Bioware was dead long before andromeda, arguably since mass effect 1.
What's happening now is ea going back to the ditch and unloading another round in the corpse.
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>>376596783
They gave Bioware Montreal, the B-Team for DLC all the time and funding. Not the studio behind the original trilogy.
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>>376596459
>Google Manveer Heir
How the fuck is this man going to find work in the computer industry ever again? I would not hire anybody if that is what a preliminary Google search brought up. Best he can hope for is a gas station job or some shit.

Jesus Christ, what a fucking retard. First two pages all the "premier" reporting sites with headlines just ruining his chances at life.
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>>376594973

Eh, Remember Me is supposedly a *good* game, though. It's just Capcom having no confidence because "lol females don't sale" (ignoring the fact that Tomb Raider was a HUGE thing in the early era of it, Mirror's Edge was a cult-classic that got a SEQUEL, etc.)

It flopping just reinforced that stereotype of "why should we publish this? Nobody is going to buy it!"

Rail against Mafia 3 and other forced-agenda games, sure. But AFAIK, Remember Me didn't preach or anything, it simply had a female protagonist because it WANTED to. That should be celebrated, otherwise you get Fuse/Overstrike.
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>>376587986
Did we meme bioware into oblivion?
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>>376595685
Her full name is Pelessaria B'something.
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>>376588050

No. Only retarded Bioware fans can argue till they are blue in the face. Everyone else has their head out of their ass and knows it's a shit game.
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>>376590709
just play first two on easy for story
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>>376587986
Yes thank fucking christ.
This should have happened right after 3 came out.
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>>376597162
>How the fuck is this man going to find work in the computer industry ever again?
He already did, some indieshit studio took him, or at least that's what he wrote on twitter.
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Mass effect is one of my favorite game francises. But that doesnt mean Im going to spend a single minute on a bad game.

I didn't buy andromeda. And if they cant make a proper one they just shouldn't bother.
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>>376597162
>How the fuck is this man going to find work in the computer industry ever again?

White people are retarded and get off on their own downfall. He can easily score another gig in Canada since they are the cuck central of America
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EA strikes again.

Didnt you like Command and Conquer 4? Too bad. Thats all we can do.
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>>376598053
Fair enough. I imagine he has made enough connections locally to find work. When you come with a recommendation there's a fairly good chance that people won't Google your name.

Regardless, if he had to deal with a real HR department at a real company ever again he is certainly not getting in. Unless he somehow Googlebombs his bad press off the front page.
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>>376598121
i wouldnt be surprised if they manipulated it on purpose so that theres nothing standing against star wars
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>Ghostbusters failed so hard that Sony considering dropping out of the film industry
>Marvel comic book sales are tanking and the CEO blames the focus on diversity
>Target loses $15 billion dollars in a year, the CEO blames transgender bathrooms
>NFL loses tons of money because Colin Kaepernick refuses to stand for the pledge of allegiance
>ESPN dying because of virtue signalling & SJWism
>Pepsi got slaughtered after putting out their recent ad
>same for Bud Light and their Amy Schumer/Seth Rogan feminism ad
>EVERYBODY hates the new Bill Nye
>Bioware downsized, Mass Effect shelved

Are SJWs dead?
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>>376598167
See >>376598079, he'd only have to threaten crying racism to get a job.
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>>376598231
>transgender bathrooms
that's really a thing in the land of the free?
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>>376588618
People who dont play video games. They will literally NEVER learn this and keep making this mistake. This is the power of Bioware.
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>>376598231
SJW's arent the victim of SJW's. Nor are conservatives.

The a-political conformists tend to be.
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>>376592475

Well, we certainly contributed by not buying it and talking shit about it.
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>>376598231
>Are SJWs dead?

they were never really alive in the first place if you think about it. all they ever did was exploit white peoples self hatred and quest for inclusion to insane levels but they never built anything on their own that would actually sell on the free market
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>>376598231
>EVERYBODY hates the new Bill Nye

Eh, we can argue this until we're blue in the face. But nothing he did with that gender construct video was terrible. It's a sore subject and he shouldn't have waded in, but people getting upset need to look in the mirror and let bygones be bygones when it comes to "gender."
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>>376598231
I'd like to see sources for all this. Not saying you're wrong. I just really want all this to be true.
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>>376587986
b-but I thought sjw games were the future.....
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>>376598231
>Marvel comic book sales are tanking and the CEO blames the focus on diversity

False. They blame the consumer on being bigots.
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>>376598317
it's a meme, nobody asks for transgender bathrooms, just not harassing them when they need to take a dump
the only people who keep mentioning bathrooms are republicans
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>>376594806
She lied about her job position.

https://twitter.com/bioware/status/843190432033005568
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>>376598472
That's just public damage control, I'm sure they know the actual reason.
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>>376598413
Sony loses $70+ million on Ghostbusters
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ghostbusters-box-office-loss-sequel-unlikely-918515

Sony considers selling film business
http://nypost.com/2017/01/19/sony-is-weighing-a-sale-of-film-tv-business/

Marvel VP of Sales Blames Diversity for Falling Comic Book Sales
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/marvel-comic-book-sales-falling-vp-diversity-women-a7662771.html

Target’s CEO Opposed Transgender Plan Which Slashed $20 Billion in Stock Value
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/07/report-targets-ceo-opposed-transgender-plan-slashed-20-billion-stock-value/

Yes, Colin Kaepernick is hurting NFL ratings
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/yes-colin-kaepernick-is-hurting-nfl-ratings-184531361.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

Not sure that Pepsi/Bud Light ads had financial impact, but both companies pulled these ads because they were so unpopular
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>>376598685
They are gonna double down just watch.
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>>376590245
I like you anon
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>>376598231
>pledge of allegiance
I'll never understand how Americans don't find that creepy.
It's something straight out of dystopian fiction.
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>>376598231

Add in shit like the University of Missouri losing a quarter of its students due to SJW shit.
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>>376589021
That UI is making me physically sick.
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>>376598231
Most of this ties back to george soros. he has this very notorious way of mkaing quick money and then selling it off at its peak while leaving the rotting shambling of a husk its the reason why marvel was such a piece of shit company and now they're suddenly turning the tides again.
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>>376599059
didnt netflix start putting out tons of sjw right after soros bought some stocks?
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>>376590479
Skyrim modders made better animations than half the games in the last 5 years, specially that guy who did all the walking/idle animations and the Japanese guy who did all the misc stuff like picking locks or harvesting resources.
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hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>376589882
For comparison, anyone have a webm of this scene from Yakuza Zero where Sagawa and Majima have a drink?
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> Make a game so bad it kills a AAA franchise and destroys a video game company.

Kek.
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I heard they are now on the Theme Hospital 2, Future Cop LAPD 2 team, Black and white 3, Sim City 6, Command and Conquer 5, Kotor 3 and Dungeon Keeper 3 team.
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>>376588116
Dylan!
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>>376599131
>that guy who did all the walking/idle animations and the Japanese guy who did all the misc stuff like picking locks or harvesting resources
links to mods pls?
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>>376590035
I have to wonder how much gas is left in the Battlefield franchise. They refuse to make 2143, and now that ship has sailed as Call of Duty basically destroyed near-future sci-fi with oversaturation.

I'm guessing the next game is BF will go to WWII, but with the usual DICE Sweden touches (i.e. female frontline soldiers and "diversity") before it declines to sub-5mil sales.
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>>376599059
Why is it always about George Soros? The Koch brothers have a shit-ton more money and influence
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>>376598920
Was really hard to find a reliable source that wasn't some right-wing tabloid but fuck if this isn't funny.
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>>376589882
Default femryder looks like fucking shit.
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>>376599442
Near future war sucks most because its all riddled in diversity and there are no more clear lines of whos fighting who.
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>>376599565
Are you telling me her character and face wasn't a masterpiece of writing?
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>>376599394
I don't remember their names anon, but the walking/idle guy has so many you'll know his page when you see it cause he has like a bajillion X.XX versions of walking and idling to choose from. As for the Japanese guy, I think you gotta search for .. oh fuck it's been too long uh basically it's kinda like iNeeds where eating/bathing/sleeping/etc matters, and the guy also made animations to go with it. Sorry it's been over 2 years since I've played I don't even know if they are still the best.
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>>376599217
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2XuQphMssA&t=5m38s

What was the budget difference between Zero and Andromeda?
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>>376598674
Misidentified? Really?
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Well that's a shame. Despite all the memes, I do think Andromeda was a step in the right direction after ME3. It suffered from some of the issues Inquisition did, but still. And personally I don't give much of a shit about the animations. Some are worth a chuckle, but that's neither good nor bad.
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>>376598920
>Mizzou forced to close dorms
>Two of them are fucking named Excellence and Respect
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>>376598472
>people don't want our product
>it is the consumers who are wrong!

I always love it when the almighty dollar wins. It shows that all that "being progressive" was just an act. The people who actually want to be inclusive will continue to write good characters for their games and not call press conferences to announce how brave they are for doing it and those who did it just to cry for attention get burned. I absolutely love it.
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>>376598920
WE NEED SOME MUSCLE OVER HERE
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>>376598231
>are sjws dead

Even if they do die off (which they will), some other rising social vocal majority will replace them, and the cycle will repeat again and again. Like what happened with the christians and PETA. I wish these cycles would end.
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>>376599570
That didn't stop DICE from adding diversity into a fucking WWI game. At least I can suspend disbelief when females and rainbow people are fighting in a future war with technology and genome therapy.
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I never understood why gaming developers want to tone games down for the casual market.

This rarely works out. Because even casuals dont want to play bad games. They only sometimes do when they are eased into it for nostalgia or social reasons.
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Off-topic but still worth a chuckle.
Hitman developer Io-Interactive dumped by Square Enix
https://pastebin.com/iWJ8zAsD
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>>376599927
>I wish these cycles would end.
lets build the crucible then so we can change the variables
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>>376587986
Threadly reminder that a lot of Bioware's earlier writting was done by tv/novelist writters, under pseudonyms, who were on strike or out of work.
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>>376599952
the whole marketing for that game was full on we wuz kangz and i cant believe it sold.

then again most normies dont care about WW1 and i think it will be much more noticable in WW2 when we will have french power wymen (not historically accurate ones like russians cause le ebin drump russia meme) and a full on holocaust themepark ride shoved down our faces
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Reminder that they hired Sam Maggs, the girl in this video, as a writer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGFTWsvqTIY
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>>376600121
I can guarantee nobody actually played it either. because the black dudes got fucking slaughtered in the first mission and were never seen again and nobody complained about tokenism.
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>>376599967
Because businessmen see people as walking wallets, and if you can pander to infinity amounts of people you can earn infinity dollars, or so the logic goes.

Problem is, if you dumb shit down, it'll end up being generic, and no one falls in love with generic shit. You have to make something people will love to retain them.
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>>376600125
man i remember one tweet posted from that cunt that took sovereigns speech from ME1 and made it about ending bro culture or some shit

i was mad as hell
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>>376599927
You can not escape your cycles of guilt.
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>>376600275
then why make him the poster child?
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>>376599970
>worth a chuckle

FUCK OFF

>find out fucking normie cucks likely canceled deus ex earlier today
>you post a pastebin of hitman 2nd season likely being canceled

fucking hell is there anything the industry cant fuck up
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>>376598231
>>EVERYBODY hates the new Bill Nye
Did I miss something, wasn't this netflixs fault/decision to edit his video? If he clearly stated factual information about determining gender from chromosones and Netflix edited/deleted it then how is it his fault?
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>>376600125
As a Canadian if you go to any Cineplex theatre you will be seeing Maggs ugly mug during the previews.
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>>376587986
>try to salvage an IP you ruined so you don't have to invest in writers/artists to invent a new IP
>give it the 'same old same old' sequel treatment as if this wasn't a special case where you needed to pull out all the stops to resell the world on a tarnished IP
>game isn't good enough to bring back scorned fans
>game isn't new enough to bring in new fans
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>>376598691
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>>376600441
Wait why?
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>>376600434
not him but nothing could have saved that special after the ice cream orgy
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>>376600501
She works for the company. Does segments about upcoming movies and shit. Also hosts the trivia game at the start.
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>>376600450
all they had to do was declare destroy canon and set a sequel in a post reaper war galaxy where we are about to reboot the relay network for the main council races its that simple

softrebooting the IP in another galaxy and leaving everything people liked behind was a stupid idea
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>>376594626
very experienced
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>>376600568
So things a highschooler can do, ride on.
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>>376600568
does she warn people about problematic flicks?
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>>376598053
i remember he saying he "founded" his own indie studio, not bveing hired
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>>376600771
what an amazing career move
going from AAA dev leading position to indie dev
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>>376600589
Fuck, they just had to do the reject ending, and the plot picks up where the next cycle beats the reapers and trys to clone humanity back into existence. You get a whole "new" galaxy, "new" races, and you can bring back the old ones at a whim.
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>>376598917
Lots of former colonies do something similar to that, and you wouldn't be the first to think it's a bit crazy when you take it out of context.
I mean shit, the Mexican anthem talks about gladly throwing yourself into the meat grinder for your country, and it's present in every sport.
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>>376600825
well, he is PR poison for any studio, no matter how much pc/sjw you are having a guy asking to kill white males working on your studio is bad for you
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>>376587986
good, fuck these sjw pandering retards
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>>376600125
Is it a tranny? I honestly can't tell.
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>>376600568
>trivia game
Huh, I didn't know NA cinema actually did that in real life.
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>>376587986
Did The Witcher 3/Bloodborne finally raise people's standards?
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>>376600423
>earlier today
It's been known for more than a month already, what were you in the prison for?
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>>376600865
Or do Andromeda right and have the Arks be a last resort solution from the Council to escape the upcoming reaper invasion.

No hurr durr the milky way was too mainstream shit but have them be legit refugees who had to flee the galaxy. It would be a much better theme and give greater meaning to all races having to work together
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>>376601031
I'd like to think so, but really this is just EA being EA. Also, Bioware Montreal is now simply returning to its rightful place as a support studio that never should've been making a game all on their own.
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>>376600934
Then why didnt they fire him pre release? Why give him special treatment and let his contract run out if a white guy had said this shit they would have lynched him
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>>376601104
Because vidya industry has abhorrently low standards when it comes to workforce.
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>>376600125
Why do we give idiots attention?
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>>376601179
because these idiots get hired by big studios and influence production with their bullshit
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>>376597162
This is hilarious. Did /pol/ put a hit out on him or something? It feels like there's no way someone didn't have a hand in carefully selecting those words for those headlines and then driving up traffic each page to make sure it's the first thing to pop up when you google his name.
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>>376593042

if it was good it would have been passable. it needed to relaunch the series in a way that captured the awe players felt with the first ME

and they had the chance to do that. make the same kind of game with new locations, new lore, new mechanics, create a new and interesting narrative, let you pick a new species, free form class advancement, all created and ran on modern technology

and it ended up being worse than samey or familiar, it was actually worse than all the previous entries in many ways. it looked worse, the gameplay was familiar, the writing was hackneyed sjw shit, the story was generic, the setting felt tired being all new compared to previous games
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>>376598231
>EVERYBODY hates the new Bill Nye
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>>376601179
freak shows were a thing since medieval times
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>>376601234
no the guy was just that terrible pissing off that many people
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>>376601226
Rather them than you.
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>>376587986
>What went wrong
bioware used to be good then they went full SJW
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>>376601397
i know the mass effect lore they didnt and crashed the ip ;)
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>>376598691

that Marvel VP is full of shit since the big reason is rising prices and people only buying shit they know about
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>>376601254

what the fuck?
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>>376587986
I don't understand how it's taken so long for people in main stream media to realise that bioware writing has been shit since KOTOR in fact not only has it been shit but they've been writing the same cut and paste story and crew members for over ten years now
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>The western gaming industry is in fucking shambles with so many fuck ups in a single year alone

Fuck it, I might start getting into JRPGs at this point.
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>>376600434
You missed his brand new show

Click if you dare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8
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>>376602125
its hard not to become /pol/ when this shit is aired as science
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>>376602125
>thumbnail
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Genarl /v/, Attack Mount Bioware!
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>>376602125
Everyone has such a hardon for MUH 90's they forget that most of the shit that came out back then was terrible. Bill Nye is a perfect example of why drudging up everything and hoping something sticks is a bad idea. Making scientists into celebrities to make dumb people feel smart was a mistake
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>>376592312
Lmao
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>>376587986
There was a season pass, wasn't there? What are those people going to do now?
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>>376587986
Nothing went wrong. It's just EA doing its thing, like they did with Mythic and Westwood. Bioware's shutdown was bound to happen. And nothing of value will be lost.
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>>376591472
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>>376603420
Beside nothing going wrong, this post is largely on point.

Hell it was even a huge joke and highly anticipating especially with all the logos of other dead EA studios being put alongside Bioware in that video.
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>>376591964
Yes, and he is cosplaying as that half-lizard guy from Mortal Kombat (hence why 'consider' is spelled wrong).
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>>376603365
Nope. No season pass. It's like they already knew their fate.
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I wonder if the Doctors are laughing or crying at the state of the company they started.
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>>376594682
Rather blame the jews.
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>>376595002
we found her animation '''''''effort'''''

let's just say it was unimpressive.
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>>376601031
I think it's less about standards being raised and more about the mass audience finally waking up the BS companies are putting out.
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>>376598691
>>376601450

Yeah, and they were pushing random lesboqueer transniggers with I'm with Her tattoos. Hence nobody buying since nobody careda botu the snowflakes
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>>376591627
just but the pastbin can be used for diffrent reasons depending on what the meaning of life is
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>>376601254
Context? How did they choose to die?
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>>376593932
cool it
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>>376604308
Flavor mixing.
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>>376588237
this.
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>go to an ENTIRELY NEW GALAXY because ME3 shit the bed so hard
>there's only ONE new race in the new galaxy

Probably the funniest part of how obvious it was this was a shitty cash-in sequel. Couldn't even bother to do like Star Trek and reorganize the alien's spots/forehead ridges.
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>>376588237
They are probably gonna be replaced with worse things, anon.
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"industry news" threads arent video games though
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>>376599927
This. But, considering the damage SJWs are doing to the industry, I'd say epic fuckheadedness of Joe Lieberman and Jack Thompson is far less dangerous than diversity hires changing the industry from inside out.
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>>376587986
They should turn Andromeda's developers to the streets and make them find a new fuckin job. Preferably away from video games entirely
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>>376599442
Bullshit. Stylistics don't matter, all BF 2143 has to do to steal the spotlight is to promote using actual straregy and tactics. And pretending-to-be-hard sci-fi settings allow for much more strategic and tactical variety than WW2 and modern hurdurr.
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>>376587986
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAA
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>>376601532
>>376604308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46h-LfNWPn8
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>>376598376
The truth is that what he was talking about wasn't science, it was just feelings and desires. Worse, people act like this has always been the case when people have lived long enough to know it isn't. You can't just gaslight people on something like gender and sex not being the same thing and expect to get away with it so easily.
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>>376597192
Mirrors edge 2 was a huge flop because sjw garbage. Alienates original fanbase
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>>376606776
But gender and sex are different things. Why can't you just let people be happy? Not like they're fucking kids or dogs.
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>>376606836
ME2 was a flop because it was way worse than the first one.
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>>376598338

>talking shit about games we don't buy

Yeah, that's like every game even succesful ones mate.
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>>376607112
gender/sex are defined by which chromosomes you have, not mental disorders
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>>376587986

AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>376587986
>mfw i was right
I knew it that this shit game is going to flop hard and EA will do something about it.
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>>376607112
I was indifferent to the tranny insanity until they started giving hormones to children. Which was their goal all along, of course.
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>>376587986
>Linking shitaku.
Neo-/v/ everyone.
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>>376587986
>technological challenges
more like hiring mentally challenged people who never coded before as "main programming team"
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>>376607436
I agree, children shouldn't be subjected to this. Adults can feel and live how they want though.
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>>376592167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2j5alJorxc

tl;dr beauty standards are objective across cultures. & comparing the male to his actor to the female and her actor it's clear they they did it on purpose because the guy is hot and the women is not.
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>>376591795
Sorry but I'm a dev and nothing you say there would require more than a week of code change + debug. area generation/loading is a well separated node in the project. It's not really complex to change it especially if you go from something complex to something simpler.
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>>376607573
oh shut the fuck up you dumb faggot and stop ignoring the obvious
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>>376607112
I have a Webster's dictionary right here that links them directly as synonyms. Politically motivated nonsense changes to definitions to appease extremely small mentally ill demographics is ridiculous. Trying to pass it off as actual science is even worse. Should have tried making up new words instead of changing existing ones and trying to pass it off as always being the case. Like I said, that's basically gaslighting and trying to do it to something so major is beyond stupid. The hubris of doing so is insane.

The fact is that true trannies are mentally ill. Not in the way that counseling will fix, mentally ill with a biological basis, their brain doesn't work properly. Schizophrenia, body integrity disorder and others follow the same path. They're crazy and it isn't really their fault, but it doesn't mean we need to pretend there is no sickness there or we'll never find a solution. I doubt it can ever be cured but preventive screening may become a thing. Appeasement like this is beyond ridiculous and spits in the face of science and discovery. Claiming that gender is a magical thing that you both can't choose but isn't related to your body at all is anti-science, this denial of the effects of genes and chromosomes is modern day Lysenkoism (look it up).

You don't say a normal human can have any number of limbs (check your privilege, 4 legs good 2 legs better) to appease people with Body Integrity disorder since their brain makes their body feel like it has too many arms when they don't.

And I did say true trannies. With rebellious politics and whatnot there will always be those young people going along with it for attention or to feel special or simple confusion. That "Headmates" craze for people pretending to be schizophrenic or have multiple personalities is an example of this as well.
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>>376607656
nani?
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>>376589534
shut your face buffy was good
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>>376594806
>Isn't facial animation a low-tier job, since nearly everything's mocapped these days
No, and your logic is how you end up hiring an incompetent retard for one of the most important part of the model since all cinematics are face close ups.
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>>376607705
lol u mad
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>>376595204
You can't get good at 3d animation without solid basics on 2D animation since no matter what, your 3D model still end up in a 2D medium and will thus follow the rules of 2D animation to look good or not.
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>>376607892
Not really. Feels good wrecking people like that. I think I'll save it for later.
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I've never played Mass Effect, was really that good before ME 3 or it's just a meme?
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>>376599303
YOU SON OF A BITCH
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>>376600434
YouTube also edited it
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>>376608038
Don't bother.
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>>376608038
I had fun with the first, rest of the time I was grinding teeth. So much potential and little to none of it used.
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>>376606117
Nobody gives a fuck about 2134. It bombed then and if you want a shitty mech game play titan fall. If you want an actual good mecha experience youd play armored core
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>>376607705
Imagine being the guy that gets to fuck her
>yen be fucking her stupid listening to her scream "Fuck me cis scum"
Why even live?
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>>376608038
I don't have it saved but there was this hilarious before/after picture of GameSpot ads

Before game release
>"The epic conclusion you have been waiting for has finally arrive."

After
>"It's not about the destination. It's about the journey."
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>>376597974
>Only retarded X fans argue. Everyone else knows X game is shit.
Your home.
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SJW are not a bad thing per se. Problem is, they turned into a spiteful amass of terrible people who blame others for their own problems, rather than pointing out what's wrong with society in a constructive (and educated) way

This, combined with the fact that now SJW are on everyone's face and the media are literally trying to shove SJW rethoric down your throat without even double checking it, makes the entirety of SJW unsufferable

I blame the internet, for it allowed a very small niche of idiots to become loud enough to force people to listen to them, and worst of all, attracting fragile and stupid people in their ranks with words of solidarity because "they're right, it's the OTHERS who are wrong"

The media and game companies are basically between a rock and hard place now, either they cater to children , or they must thread as carefully as ever because of fear of accusations of racism and bigotism that true or not are more than capable of ruining one's reputation forever
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>>376607112
>Not like they're fucking kids

Um, check your privilege? Don't attack our LGBTP comrades. Paedosexuals are people too you know.
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>>376608691
Meanwhile MEA is 73 or metacritic.
Worse than ME3 and only slightly better than Mafia 3
Did they forget to pay the reviewers this time or something?
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>>376601450
Pretty sure the problem is that they force all their comics into some big event every year and mess up the stories all the individual writers had going. I get that they want readers of one comic to be exposed to protags from other comics, but come on. This is happening much too often.
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>>376587986
>BioWare Montreal Scaled Down

They got rid of the few remaining white males for diversity?
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>>376600618
very cool
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>>376609148
they unironically thought that their virtue signaling would get them an easy 9/10 without even having to pay them
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>>376588116
>we finally got a Bob Dylan action RPG
YES, MUH DICK
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I want to cuddle with Vetra!
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>>376609075
If that's true than why did Milo get ruined for simply saying he wasn't ruined by being molested as a teen?
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>>376608673
Fucking degenerates until they are loving, family minded, heterosexuals is my fetish.
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Very good, I hope they put more effort into Dragon Age for it always was the better series with better waifus, better companions and more interesting lore.
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>>376609446
Because he's not a COMRADE, obviously.
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gobbergatorS Blumf REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>376609446
because milo is "conservative" so the left wont safeguard him
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>>376609487
Magic and fantasy is shit.
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>>376609487
Dragon age, like Mass Effct, was good only for the first game
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>>376609572
t. normie dudebro
I'm glad you are fucking off from BW games now because you really never had a place there. Mass Effect has nothing to do with role playing games.
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>>376609669
Inquisition was leagues better than Andromeda tho
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>>376602829
>Bill Nye
>scientist
Bill Nye has a BA in mechanical engineering, that's it. He's never been a scientist.
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>>376609675
Imma fight you, you faggy elf larper.
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>>376609819
>Engineers aren't scientists
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>>376609572
Magic and fantasy are fine. It's all the neo-humans that are shit. Humans and Elves(which are just idealized humans) get all the attention and the others are just their for flavor. Another problem to is that Thedas (its fucking name is literally THE-Dragon-Age-Setting) is just an uninspired generic fantasy setting.

Here is one that is actually pretty cool
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/IronKingdoms
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>>376609819
I wonder what was going through his head when some female marketting specialists told him that they were going to be singing about gender fluidity and vaginas on his show and calling it science and that this new generation will eat it right up. I imagine he just resigned himself to not knowing what the kids are about these days and went along with it, not wanting to sound like a bigot.
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>>376609910
Engineers are engineers, anon.
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>>376609961
Fantasy is shit. SHIT!
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>>376609487
Pretty sure next DA is never ever now.
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>>376609961
How many other fantasy settings have shit like the fade and titans?
>Thedas
I take that over some shit out of a fantasy name generator, makes me cringe.
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>>376609910
>medical doctors aren't scientists
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>>376610091
Fantasy can be anything. Even most 'Sci-Fi' settings have no basis in science which actually makes them 'future fantasy' or 'techno-fantasy' settings.
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>>376610101

Sure there will be a next one. Devs are hinting at it for a long time now but aren't allowed to give confirmations. As you can see with this thread, EA doesn't make a secret out of killing shit off. We would have heard by now.
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>>376598917
All the national anthems sound dystopian as fuck.

They only ever tall about dying for your country.
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>>376610250
So I take it that's another studio, not BW Edmonton?
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>>376610349
Yes
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>>376610223
Mass Effect isn't Star Trek. They do more write in the setting than they do wrong. The emphasis on thermodynamics and kinematics in the fluff is particularly refreshing.Science fiction never worries about thermodynamics.
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>>376609446
Because he was previously untouchable by his opponents and they leapt at the slightest chink in his armor.
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>>376610442
Fluff is underrated.
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>>376610442
>more write
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When is the next dragon age coming out?
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>>376610580
I've been spelling things phonetically increasingly often recently. I think it may be brain problems. Maybe I should go back on teh adderall.
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>>376610786
fug, shit sucks
hope you get better anon
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>>376610580
He/you also used Star Trek when he.you should had used Star Wars. Star Trek actually tries to be scientific and delves into the logic of 'what ifs' while STar Wars actually has magic in it.

This here is a good example of actual science fiction over fantasy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc
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>>376609736
If a shit is better than another shit, it's still shit
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>>376610837
I didn't want to trigger the actual autists who claim Star Wars isn't even science fiction.

The fact is Star Trek is particularly guilty of "modifying the phase variance" to solve every problem. It's such a meme it was a Starcraft cheat code.
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>>376589826
SAVAGE
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>>376610975
It's simple though.

If its based on science at least to some degree it's sci-fi.

If its completely made up its fantasy.

Just because it has spaceships and lazerguns that doesn't mean its sci-fi.
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>>376611235
>Just because it has spaceships and lazerguns that doesn't mean its sci-fi.
Yes it does, you actual autists. The setting matters.
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>>376611235
Element zero is completely made up.
Therefore Mass Effect is fantasy.
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>>376609910
Hang yourself
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Looked at some sales figures the other night

In the first three weeks MEA sold around 130,000 physical copies in the UK with an enormous drop-off (the third weeks sales were approx 10'000) In comparison Wildlands had sold 300k units in five weeks and was still selling far more than MEA

Now EA at it's shareholder meeting the other day stated that although digital sales made up 60% of it's revenue, physical sales made up about 60% plus of actual sales figures. (this disparity is due to them having their own digital distribution outlet and not paying manufacturing costs and giving the stores their cut).

So say in 3 weeks MEA had 200k overall UK sales. The UK is the 6th largest game market in the world. Germany is 4th. But sells different types of games. Just to be generous though say Germany sold 250k copies and the rest of Europe another 300K.

So you have about 750k copies sold in Europe. The drop off on the game is enourmous so it will be lucky to shift a million copies in it's lifetime in Europe. Eupropes overall sales are usually more than the US by about 20%. So lifetime sales in the US and Europe are less than 2 million. The rest of the world gives no fucks about MEA so it's unlikely to sell 3 million over it's lifetime worldwide. EA expected it to sell 3million in it's first week and lifetime sales of 6-9million.

The game is already discounted to $38 at some outlets. The average net profit of those copies sold over the lifetime will be lower than $30.

So even in the best possible scenero it's sold about 2 million copies at a $30 profit. After this point the average profit will dip dramatically. So with the most optimistic outlook the game will take $80million. It cost at the very least $40million to make and then you have the marketing budget which is usually more than production. So the game is very unlikely to break even.

TDLR The game lost money and that is why EA is shutting down this freakshow.
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>>376609819
>>376609910
>>376610207

ALL STEM FIELDS ARE SCIENTISTS REEEEEEEEEE
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>>376609446
>Milo ruined

No one on Milo's side turned against him. Only people who hated him did, and those who didn't know about him got to know a biased perspective through manufactured negative coverage.
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>>376589203
Except the money they spent wasn't cheap so obviously they expected wild success.
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>>376599303
Bioware would never make something this good.
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I'm kinda disappointed because I was planning on buying a collectors edition after they actually finished the game
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>>376611336
That is ridiculous.
You are ridiculous.
Please leave.
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>>376608081
They have you pushin' too many pencils?
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>>376611798
Not an argument.
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>>376612059
>one made up element means it isn't science fiction
Then there is virtually no such thing as science fiction. And yet here we are, with bookstores full of stories labeled science fiction. Fact is, you are making up your own ludicrous definition for science fiction and then sticking your head in the sand. So fuck off.
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>>376611336
Now you're getting it.
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Let's hope ND go the same way since they inject gender and identity politics into everything they do these days too.
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>>376612238
>you are making up your own ludicrous definition for science fiction
What?
Where?
Are you well, anon?
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>>376587986
>What went wrong, /v/?

Everything. Ugly women and shitty animations are only a symptom of hiring based on 'muh diversity' instead of competence.

They scared the talent away with political correctness and only the deadwood and loony cultists remained.
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>>376612320
Learn to read and make doubly sure to know what you are posting before you post it.
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>>376612470
>>376612552
Not an argument. Also you should never double post even when you're mad.
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It's been put on ice. But we all know that is just another way of saying that it has been cancelled without actually saying it.
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>>376612598
>lol u mad
Not an argument.

You stated that something with one made up element cannot be science fiction. You are retarded AND baiting. This is your last (you).
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>>376599927
Purging degeneracy never changes
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>>376612706
LOTR is science fiction because only magic was made up in it. Everything else can be explain by said magic.
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>>376588468
We won last year when Hulkamania ran wild on Gawker.

Everything after that has been post-climax spasms.
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>>376605943
Pretending to be reasonable/sane and timing is a good thing.

The loonies of old showed their true colors too soon
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>a bioshit game failed
good. fuck bioware, sjws, EA, and mass effect. ME was never good.
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>>376599442
>over saturation
How many games were there in far futurr? Cod Infinite, Cod advanced warfare are the only ones I can think of
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>>376612706
>>376612893
I lost track of the argument. Who was arguing what again?
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What I don't understand is this

>CDPR uses $25M to make Witcher 3
>BW uses $40M to make Androgyna while using assets from previous games
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>>376613687
Pollocks love making games, modern BW does it because it's their job.
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>>376613687
>>376613769
This. A lot of people at Bioware consider vidya to be bad. They write there because they can't write at movies. They have no love for vidya.
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Soo...that means i can have hope for Dragon Age 4?i Mean if they actually make one...
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>>376613687
W3 was $46 million development $81 million including marketing, before we get into another one of these people posting wild figures.

MEA is just banded around as being $40 dollars development, though it seems hard to believe that it cost less to make than W3 as it took a year and a half longer to make and was developed in Canada where they pay in cuck sheds rather than bags of potatoes, so staff are more expensive and degenarate.

The MEA marketing budget needs to be added on top of the supposed $40 million.
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>>376609487
I liked DA when is was a Templars vs Mages setting but now it is all elven bullshit and I fucking hate elves.
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>make the most SJWfest games you can possibly think of
>it flops hard and everyone is fired or moved to other studios
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>>376587986
>What went wrong, /v/?
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>game developed by a rabid sjw pajeet
>brown female lead animator
>sells like shit
how's that diversity working, bioware and ea?
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>>376614425
Alright, even if we assume they cost the same, it's still a sorcery. Andromeda costing the same as Witcher 3 is just a big fuck you to common sense and budget planning.

>>376613950
>A lot of people at Bioware consider vidya to be bad. They have no love for vidya.
I am not saying you are lying, but can you back this up?
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>>376614484
And it was part 1 of a new trilogy that may be dead in the water.
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>>376613687
It's almost as if money isn't everything when it comes to development
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>>376588237
Deus Ex was a genuinely decent series even if the subsequent entries paled in comparison to the first, it's a shame it got shelved. I wish SE hadn't fucked with MD the way they did, they effectovely torpedoed the whole thing with publisher dickery.
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>>376614639
>game developed by a rabid sjw pajeet
>developed
You make it sound like he was important. Are we going to say the janitor "developed" it too?
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>>376587986
Its good this game failed. But your still a faggot for linking to Kotaku. Kill yourself.
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>>376613950
Also they don't understand the medium as games aren't movies, that's one of their great advantages. Yet these idiots think that they are writing their own fan fiction film and shoehorn their agenda into everything and lead the player down their single defined path with barely the illusion of choice. They don't realise that a game especially a good RPG should hand the illusion of power over the player to shape the narrative and not be forced to listen to some tranny tumblr blogpost or gigllesque dialouge, the player should have the option like first Shepard to punch them out or flush them out of an airlock.
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>>376615012
Lead gameplay designer is not a janitor tho.
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>>376614621
This coordination combined with censoring the topic on every major platform is what made the whole thing blew up. They finally did the smart thing and just started ignoring them and let them burn out on their own.
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>>376615012
He's the lead designer, dipshit
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>>376615069
That's not what I was told. I'll take your word for it.

>>376615102
rude
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>>376614997
I'm glad it got shelved. HR and MD were complete trash that pissed on the corpse of Deus Ex even more. IW was bad enough, we don't need more turds like those two. Maybe now Deus Ex can just rest in piece.
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>>376587986
I guess even EA isn't fond of needing an extra emergency 10 million dollar patch just to stop being the internet laugh stock.
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>>376615220

IW and HR weren't even bad.
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>>376615329
>implying MD was bad
MD was better than HR
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>>376615220
I prefer original DE over any of following games but I disagree with you, HR was at the very least decent.
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>>376615329
They were pretty bad. MD is the worst in the series, besides The Fall.

It's pretty weird how much of a gap in quality there is between DX and the sequel/prequels.
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>>376614920
Alright. I know food analogy and all, but imagine ordering two pizzas and you pay the same amount for each but you get pic related.
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>>376615391

Haven't played MD, so I didn't voice an opinion.
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>>376614783
Agree totally, the W3 blows my mind with the attention to detail. I fired it up again the other day with a new graphics card, upped the settings and had a wander round Novigrad and was just admiring the textures. Did you know the street drains and cobbles vary in quality depending on the district? You can tell if your in a rich or poor district without looking at anything but the floor.

Even if W3 was made in Canada at their wages it would cost about $100 million and still be more than 10 times the detail, depth and quality of MEA.
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>>376615391
It could have been if it wasn't literally 8 hours long "RPG".
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>>376615220
Considering the circumstances HR and MD are good. Far from perfect, or as good as the original but I suspect you only operate with a "GOAT/Trash" dichotomy.
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>>376613687

Andromeda was made by a team of rookies. That's all you ever need to know about the game.
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>>376615567
ok, you have shit taste. simple.
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ME Andromeda a shite.
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>>376591981
>Downsizing

That's Fatphobic anon
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>>376615619
That doesn't explain hello my name was Stephan but I am a girl now or Alec is dead, my face is tired
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>>376615652
That artist is shite.
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>>376615532
HR and MD are about the same length if you do all the missions (and why wouldn't you). The story in MD is worse and cut short, but the level design and gameplay are better.
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>>376615769
But you have to give him credit for being honest to source material
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>>376588050
>We can debate whether or not Andromeda is a good game
have people seriously fought to keep it debatable? there are some games where you can't seriously claim to have good taste if you defend them, Andromeda or Fallout 4 being praised for example, are instant indicators to me at least that those people would eat plastic if you marketed it to them just right
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>>376615640
what are some 'good' but not great games from the last decade anon
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>>376615619
I've seen CAD renders that had more detail from 'rookies'. That can't be the only reason.
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>>376615751

>That doesn't explain my face is tired
Are you sure about that? Because a veteran developer specifically stated that shit like that happened because of mismanagement and that's something a team lacking experience would do.
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So what's so special about BioWare Montreal specifically? Don't they have studios everywhere else as well?
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>>376615329
>IW wasn't even bad
It was like jumping from Daggerfall straight to Skyrim in terms of mechanics, except the original is quite well playable and not as clunky as many other older RPGs are.
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>>376615946
fallout new vegas. an actual RPG
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>about the same length
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=14286
https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=25434
huh, you're right
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>>376590709
Mass effect 1 had awful combat. Felt like an MMO. Gets better in 2 a or 3. Story and world building are solid through all games.
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I love how everyone who worked on this game is suspect. Linkedin can't save you now, ha.
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>>376593665
Is this not the truest sign that Bioware is a washed up hag of a developer that is simply incapable of keeping up with the times and the growing standards of their fanbase? Bioware had a chance to not only repair their reputation after the disaster of Mass Effect 3, but learn from others (most notably, Witcher 3) and improve upon their model.

So what did they do instead? They bound their bruised reputation with salt-covered bandages, mumbled the same boring old things they've said to us before, and spat in our faces when we said that was all bullshit.
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>>376616175
>>376615776
oops forgot to (you)
yeah only the main story is criminally short by wrpg standards
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>>376616104
fuck off
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>>376615956
I didn't mean the animation fidelity, but rather acceptance of such blatantly bad writing. You picked just one out of few examples I provided to get my point across.

You know, you can be shit but even if you are shit at doing something you still should know what is good regardless. Especially when there is a big budget and team behind it. I mean what happened, nobody raised a hand and told them their opinion? Or they just didn't care?
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>>376592475
>WUZ
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>>376616347
I win
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>>376606836
Why do Western developers do this? Eastern Developers go the opposite way where they pander to their fans way too hard, but Western developers seem to have this thing where they either willingly ignore their original fanbase, or in the case of Bioware actively antagonize them.

I've got zero fucking sympathy for Bioware after what they did with Mass Effect 3, and I'm only glad the rest of the community seems to agree with Andromeda going up in flames.
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>>376615958
>So what's so special about BioWare Montreal specifically?
Nothing. Montreal was just an auxiliary branch game that had never made a game before.

The most they have ever done before Andromeda was help with DLC and ME3's multiplayer. So the downsizing is just really reverting them back to their original role.
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>>376616461
If you say so. Still fuck off though.
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>>376615012
>"as an artist, I feel as if I put a piece of myself into all my work, it's a really spiritual experience."


These are the worst types of people. And that was the entire development team for Andromeda. I'm glad this game killed BioWare. Fucking end this shit already.
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>>376616291
>Is this not the truest sign that Bioware is a washed up hag of a developer that is simply incapable of keeping up with the times and the growing standards of their fanbase?
Andromeda wasn't even made by the real Bioware team. The real Bioware is working on some online multiplayer game they are hoping will be the next biggest hit but likely wont.
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>>376616104
is your complaint then that HR/MD aren't RPG enough? that's fair, though DX was pretty middling as just an RPG
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>>376591627
the developer commentaries in DXHR clearly showed they wanted more time to make something closer to the original but the deadlines were too strict and a lot had to be cut as a result. apparently there was a whole massive chunk of the game that they just scrapped, some missions around the point the boat DLC happens
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>>376616430
>Especially when there is a big budget and team behind it.
That's not some kind of magic steroid. If the team is inexperienced and clueless, then adding more people and money to it isn't going to do anything but finish the game.
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>>376615042
>muh games aren't movies
The original ME and fallout NV both had scripts generic enough for movies. The difference is they implemented it halfway decent.
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>>376616615
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>>376616615
Gotta hold off on cheering till that piece comes out. But at this point, it would take a miracle for it not to be shit. BioWare is finished.
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>>376615652
Mass Effect in general is garbage.
It's an RPG franchise that ignores what makes RPGs a unique genre, and on top of that it's set in a completely creatively bankrupt, Star Trek wannabe universe, so fucking dull, that 5 minutes into the franchise they had to throw in AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS.
This franchise took too long to die.
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>>376616737
they clearly didn't learn with MD though, that game has inefficiency written all over it
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>>376590748
>Entire 100+ hour franchise is awful because of the last 20 minutes.
Autists make me sick.

>>376590769
Year after year EA has at least 3 games in the top 10 sellers. They make the game equivalent of Marvel films (which I like). They are not going anywhere.

>>376591052
Trailer was very good, I'll give you that.

>>376591472
Lol /pol/ did your oneitis choose a black man over a degenerate autist.
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>>376601031
I think so, at least when it comes to RPG's. If Mass Effect: Andromeda came out in 2014 (the game looks like it came out in that year anyway) people would have gotten a lot more slack.
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>>376616737

You didn't need the commentaries to know that. The had to basically beg the SE executives to get the last extension they got, which was only a few months.
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>>376616814
Bioware should have died with Shattered Steel, it was obvious they had no goddamn idea what they were doing in this industry and have been limping on, doing nothing but bring the entire RPG genre down along the way.
Kinda like Bethesda.
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>>376616615
>Andromeda wasn't even made by the real Bioware team
Oh I know, but that doesn't change the fact it was still Bioware, and by putting Bioware on the label it should be held to the standards of other Bioware products - ESPECIALLY since it's heralded as a the fucking second coming of Mass Effect.

The total lack of self-awareness for this entire debacle is staggering; did Bioware seriously think we wouldn't remember? That people would just show up to buy Mass Effect because WOOHOO IT'S MASS EFFECT, THE GAME THAT ENDED IN A GIANT FLOP!

They threw nobodies and has-beens into this product and deeply, truly expected it to succeed. How delusional is this company? Again, I call Bioware the hag because it's this washed-up, wrinkly old wreck of a Company that somehow thinks, if it cakes on enough makeup and waddles out to the Club, all the boys will be flocking to her again.
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>>376607436
>>376607510
The problem is when you are an adult it's too late. What should improve are diagnostic methods for those who really are suffering from dysphoria but a common practice is to use hormone blockers until the person is really sure they want to take the leap. I see nothing wrong in that.
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>>376616781
Did the original bioware team leave or get gutted by EA? Why would they throw so much money and time into the project and ignore the lack of experience of the team? Seems odd to spend so much money and give so much creative control if they were planning on just cashing in on the ME/Bioware name
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>>376588116
it's a Destiny clone in the star wars setting.
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>>376616934
>by putting Bioware on the label it should be held to the standards of other Bioware product
Then Andromeda nailed it considering it's a dull, boring RPG where choices don't matter at all, set in a personality-less setting with absolutely forgettable gameplay.
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>>376616832
they did an AMA right around the time of MD's release and honestly the answers seemed so restrained.

the most they would say about their pride regarding MD was "We set out to do what we wanted to do and we're satisfied with that", I doubt they wanted to sell people a short-ass midquel with no ending, but fucking they keep getting rushed to release it sooner.

stuff like "augment your preorder" or selling the middle chapter of a story, i don't think they want to do anti-consumer crap like that but are forced to.
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>>376590245
Proof that reddit and /v/ are exactly the same.
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>>376616974
The truth is EA doesn't give a shit about Mass Effect because they have Star Wars.
They made this game to see if they could cash in on both franchises, but they can't, so ME gets chopped because they have an easy replacement.
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>>376616527
I win, loser
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>>376616970
>All these fucked up men and women will be seeking employment from you in 8 or 9 years


I hope (and I think) you're wrong about that, but only time will tell.
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>>376616934
>by putting Bioware on the label it should be held to the standards of other Bioware products
Come on now. This is EA we're talking about. They are the kings of putting little effort into a big named series and letting it die so they can make some money.
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>>376617107
So what does this leave Bioware with, now?

Like, let's consider this; EA threw a big budget into Bioware for one last swan song, one last big-name release that would totally restore the franchise and company to their former glory.

And they failed. Not only did they fail, but they became an even bigger laughing stock in the industry.
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>>376598595
if you're male, you don't belong in the women's bathroom. if you're female, you don't belong in the men's bathroom.
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>>376617145
Again if you say so. Hows that fucking off going.
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>>376617192

I seriously hope Bioware goes the way of Westwood because of Andromeda, because good lord is that game their Command and Conquer: Twilight.
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>>376616578
I don't really follow, anon. What's wrong with your greentext precisely?
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>>376617226
>So what does this leave Bioware with, now?

If they are lucky with RPG type Star Wars Game other than Tortanic. I doubt that Dragon Age will get another title or that they will risk the IP theyve been working on flopping
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>>376617226
>EA threw a big budget into Bioware for one last swan song
What fucking swan song?
It was an attempt at cashing in on a franchise they didn't give a shit about, so they just threw 40 million at them and told them to put together something resembling Mass Effect.
No one cared about this game.
If it made money, nice, if not, they have a replacement.

Mass Effect only exists because Bioware didn't want to keep paying the Star Wars license to make more KOTOR games.
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>>376617226
>So what does this leave Bioware with, now?
It doesn't affect the actual Bioware at all. They are working on something else completely.

Mass Effect was just a sacrificial lamb for EA.
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>>376617310
Because that's the kind of sentence you'd expect from a starry-eyed college student that has no fucking idea what artistry is if it came up and bit them in the pasty, well-fluffed ass. There is way too much logic and thought put into writing a novel or painting a picture than "hurr durr I just ~let myself go~"
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>>376590483
>Asari are trans
I'm sorry what? They ruined the bi squidheads in the name of browny points?
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>>376617310
It's pretentious bullshit? Dunno where it's from tho.
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>>376617082
That comes with the territory in real financing. Think that dream [insert product] comes with no strings attached? No nigger, they use ALL the strings.

They should have known what constraints they would be facing and planned accordingly. They didn't.
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>all these autists bitching about ess jay dubyas
Reminder that if the game simply spent 3 more months in development (which they asked for and were denied) the animations would have been passable and the game would have gotten 9/10's from most major critics. It's relative failure has nothing to do with yours or anyone else's crusade.
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>>376617226
Dude, they gave the complete control of Mass Effect to the small, support studio that was created to help making DLCs for Bioware games.
You think anyone at EA cared about this franchise at all?
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>>376617460
I'll take your word for it I guess.
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>>376617343
>>376617435
So, you're telling me they sacrificed their name and reputation just to get rid of a franchise everyone has ALREADY forgotten?

What kind of headbanging retarded thought process is this? They didn't need to sacrifice Mass Effect because Mass Effect had died with 3, and all Andromeda did was show Bioware is even more wart-riddled than before.

Now, when Bioware releases a Star Wars game, will we be going "yay, a Bioware SW game" or "oh no, a Bioware game?"
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>>376616901
>Bethesda
At least you can slap on loli mods on their games.
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>>376598231
>it's fine to have a sexuality. say NO to conversion therapy!
>unless your sexuality is not bi/pansexuality. then you are not being open-minded and INCLUSIVE enough
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>>376617632
No, they didn't want to get rid of it, they wanted to check if they could use Mass Effect as a cash cow delivering shovelware-tier games, cashing in on the ME brand alone.
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>>376588050
My fighting game character can't possibly be this cute!
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>>376617507
>Reminder that if the game simply spent 3 more months in development (which they asked for and were denied) the animations would have been passable and the game would have gotten 9/10's from most major critics.

They had FIVE YEARS. You wouldn't nod your head and agree that, if the 26 year old College Student that started at 18 had just two more semesters, they'd totally finish yeah?
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>>376617159
All these people are just 0,2% so it's very unlikely you'll ever employ a trans. The point of new diagnostic methods and blockers is the fact you hopefully won't even know they are trans.
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>>376617489
it may not even be up to them what they can and can't do. if they have enough plot for one full game but the Overlords want to market it like another Mass Effect trilogy, then they might just have to somehow chop the thing in half whether they want to or not
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>>376617756
>All these people are just 0,2% so it's very unlikely you'll ever employ a trans.
Then why is every other person you see on the internet Transgender?

.3% of the population might be "legitimately" Trans, but we got tons of people who are now cashing in on what's obviously a quirky, attractive subculture.
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>>376617295
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>>376617582
That's what I meant. The content of the game would have been much different if there were less inexperienced people on the team. In particular, recent college graduates, they shouldn't have even been considered for many position. That super naive attitude doesn't produce good results or good art. Saying this objectively, not an opinion.
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>>376617295
It must make you even more mad that it wasn't him owning you but you owning yourself.
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>>376617507
>if the game simply spent 3 more months in development (which they asked for and were denied) the animations would have been passable and the game would have gotten 9/10's

5 years anon. Using an engine known for stability and they still couldn't do it. 3 months more would have changed nothing.
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>>376617717
Well congratulations EA, you just released a flop and added another layer of shit to your slave studio's reputation.
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>>376587986
>What went wrong, /v/?
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>>376617632

Look dude, it's like when Disney greenlights TV spinoffs of some of their hit animated movies. The spinoff may get a few returning voices but for the most part, the cast is different, the writers are different, and the production crew is different. If the show succeeds, great. If not, it has no actual affect on anything.

Same thing goes for EA with Bioware. Andromeda has no affect on them because the actual Bioware is doing something else and they will mention that when this game of theirs is finished.
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>>376618007
>>376617896
>missing the point, the posts
And yes, it would have gotten overrated reviews had they simply spent 3 more months polishing animations instead of relying utterly on their algorithms.

As I said, the point is that it's relative failure has nothing to do with anyone's social crusade.
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>>376618041
And they don't care about it.
It was a test.
If it worked, hey, we can have this small studio making cash cows.
If not, the studio goes back to making DLCs and this franchise we didn't care about dies because Star Wars has far more brand power than ME ever had.
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>>376618007
Adding to this, they released the "face-fixing" patches after people complained about it, and they rewrote those particular codes in what, a week? This isn't a studio stressed for time, this is a studio that well and truly thought the product they hawked was the real article, and after everyone bitched about the taste they conjured up a quick fix.

They didn't playtest this, and if they did they purposefully chose the worst people to use.

>>376618126
>Andromeda has no affect on them because the actual Bioware is doing something else and they will mention that when this game of theirs is finished.

You really think people are going to buy that? Bioware's name is poison.
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>>376617856
It's just propaganda getting the screen time, that's all. If you keep visiting the same media you have to expect the same results. I don't ever see any transgender topic until I tune in to US media, but I am tuning in only to Joe Rogan lately and he rarely talks about this issue (and even then in rather rational and a bit mocking way).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxbvVPMUXU4 I think this gives you a better outlook on it.
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>>376618119
ME3 is undderrated.

The DLC is overpriced though. Fuck. ONE DLC is 75% of the price of the game itself. It's ridiculous. Does EA not even give a shit about Origin?
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>>376618141
>the point is that it's relative failure has nothing to do with anyone's social crusade.

It only became a crusade after the studio made it a crusade by hiring flagrant racists and SocJus types with what was clear nepotism.

It's like when Amber Scott or Anthony Burch gets hired on to help a company write something - we fucking know why they got the job, and it wasn't because they're quality writers.
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>>376617756
Here's to hoping their digital footprint won't be discovered then... Pretty much impossible to hide nowadays. Even with the surgery and therapy.

Though I doubt that will happen in my life time. Doesn't matter how well someone has transitioned, those people still look... 'off'.
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>>376618230
>You really think people are going to buy that?
Some will. Others will have to be convinced. But don't worry, I'm sure this game of theirs will have a marketed budget that eclipses Andromeda's entire budget.
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>>376618230
>this is a studio that well and truly thought the product they hawked was the real article

So much fucking this right here. I bet they were all patting each-other on the back thinking they made an instant classic and everything. Good riddance.
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