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BEST ACTION GAMES RATING BY FAMITSU (JAPAN)

20. Rockman 2 (Famicom) - 18pt
19. Super Mario World (Super Famicom) - 23pt
18. Muramasa (Vita/Wii) - 26pt
17. Metal Gear Solid V (PS4/PS3/XBO/360/PC) - 27pt
16. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64) - 30pt
15. Hoshi no Kirby: Super Deluxe (Super Famicom) - 35pt
13. Devil May Cry (PS2) - 38pt
13. Metal Gear Solid (PSX) - 38pt
12. Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) - 42pt
11. Metal Gear Solid 3 (PS2) - 45pt
10. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP/iOS) - 48pt
09. Super Mario 64 (N64) - 55pt
08. Bayonetta (PS3/360/PC) - 63pt
07. Kingdom Hearts (PS2) - 117pt
06. Dark Souls III (PS4/XBO/PC) - 121pt
05. Bloodborne (PS4) - 147pt
04. Okami (Wii/PS2) - 152pt
03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt
02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
01. Super Mario Bros. (Famicom) - 241pt.

NIER AUTOMATA > BLOODBORNE.
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>>376571324
That's one vague-ass use of "action game"
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>okami #4

huh?
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>>376571324
>08.Bayonetta (ps3/360/PC)
no WiiU version neither Bayonetta 2
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>Famitsu

You mean the same guys who gave Skyrim a perfect score?
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>No SMB3
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>It's another list with SMB at the top
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>Shittermata
>better than BB, DMC3, DMC4, Ninja Gaiden, Bayo 2

El oh fucking el, what kind of fucking casual makes these garbage lists?
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>>376571324
>MGS
>mario
>okami
>fucking kirby
what kind of terrible list is this
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>>376571543
The term platformer doesn't exists in Japanese.
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>>376572927
>its not brown and bloom cod shooter press f to pay respects therefore its SHIT
did looking at that list trigger you?
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>>376572651
Vanilla and shit taste.
Also ignorance.

It's like how people say OOT is the best game of all time.
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Can play Nier Automata on the Switch?
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>>376572216
Skyrim was super popular all over the world.
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>>376572848
>look mommy i'm so hurdcorr
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>>376573421
Can I play those tits on my dick?
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>>376571324
>that fucking jump between Bayonetta and Kingdom Hearts

Jesus christ
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>>376571324
Famitsu has always been a fucking joke.
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Wait, Okami? I thought Japan hated Okami.
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>>376574798
Japanese taste was always more valuable than Western shit taste.
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>>376571324
>Okami
Sequel or HD remaster when?
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>>376571324
>20. Rockman 2 (Famicom)
>19. Super Mario World (Super Famicom)
>17. Metal Gear Solid V (PS4/PS3/XBO/360/PC) - 27pt
>01. Super Mario Bros. (Famicom) - 241pt.
What the fuck? What's the reasoning behind this?
What the fuck is this.
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>>376571324
Not a terrible list. Better than that rpg list.
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>>376577532
It's a terrible list seeing how Automata is an action game for retards, they chose DMC over DMC3, and Kingdom Hearts is on the list
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>>376571324
Where the fuck is Horizon: Zelda Killer? Or Uncharted!? Fucking nintenbro magazine.
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>>376571324
>Rockman 2 over Rockman 3
>Kirby anywhere on that list
>Kingdom Hearts, which I guess is an action game, not an RPG
>NieR on there at all
>Super Mario Bros. as #1, even implying it's better than World
Wow, the Japs have shit taste, who would have guessed?
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>>376578024
Cody, could you please stop false flagging?
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>>376578024
>western shitto

Non-existent in Japan.

Also you retards have to realize that that list is how people voted, not how they """objectively""" placed those games.

More people simply liked Automata over BB, DaS 3, Bayo or DMC
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>>376578763
>Kirby anywhere on that list

Yeah, Kirby's an action game. Don't let the cutesy aesthetic fool you. The games' intensity will creep up on you if you let it.
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Ninja Gaiden nowhere to be found.
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>>376572848
>that whole list
>fails to mention TW101

'Outta here
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>>376573421
As soon as Square Enix allows it according to some interview I read with a lead designer on the game.

I can see it happening as Square Enix is pretty much Nintendo's biggest supporter of Switch in Japan right now.
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>>376578024
>Zelda Killer
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MHFU strong!
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>>376571324
>automata that low
Jfc, that game wasn't even that good and the combat was average as fuck wtf
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>>376583825
>automata is at 3rd
>above bloodborne
>low

come on now
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>>376571324
>nier with it's broken mechanics higher than bayonetta and DMC3
Why do people even act like famitsu is worth anything other than trash?
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>>376571324
>Nier 3rd
Just finished Route A and all I can say is that the OST is beautiful. That alone makes it worthy of the 3rd spot.
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>>376584031
OST is hot garbage compared to the original title
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>>376573237
So this is what saltiness tastes like.
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>>376584074
Drakengard OST wasn't as good
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>>376583941
>above bloodborne
What did he mean by this?
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>>376571324
>action game
>SMB
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>>376571324
wow even japan agrees that MHP2G is the best MH
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>>376571324
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
>01. Super Mario Bros. (Famicom) - 241pt.
>action games
what an amazing list
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>>376571324
>everything is an action game: the list
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>>376571324
>10. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP/iOS) - 48pt
>08. Bayonetta (PS3/360/PC) - 63pt
>07. Kingdom Hearts (PS2) - 117pt
>06. Dark Souls III (PS4/XBO/PC) - 121pt
>05. Bloodborne (PS4) - 147pt
>04. Okami (Wii/PS2) - 152pt
>03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
Fucking trash taste.
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>>376584074
yeah no. this is a masterpiece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwBh_7zV4Wo
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>>376584459
Starts out boring as fuck and then once the vocals kick in it descends to being awful.
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>MGS on there three times
>DMC 1 is its single entry
>>Bayonetta
>>>Automata on a list about action when its actual gameplay is just a watered down Platinum game
>KH1
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>>376571324
>action games
> list is mostly action adventure
>includes stealth
>includes arpgs
>#1 is a platformer
Are genres that hard to separate?
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>>376578763
They Kirby series IS action and Super Star is a GOD TIER game. Of course it has a place in top 20 action games of all time.

That said it should be Super Star Ultra, which is a straight upgrade to SS.
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>>376584205
No one gives a shit about BB anyway. Only retards on /v/ troll post it as "the greatest game ever".
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>>376584634
People vote for Automata above any other PG game because it has the actual plot, music and characters unlike the "cuuraazzyeyy" garbage with "good" gameplay.

Same goes for From Software's glorified Call of Souls trash games.
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I thought everyone knew by now that Famitsu is fucking garbage
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>>376571324
>Famitsu Raings

>Nier in third place
>Nier thread
What? I mean I like Nier and all. But that's a pretty odd way to make a Nier thread. It just looks like a Famitsu thread.
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>>376584862
Why did you have to bring bloodborne up though, are you a salty pc cuck or a falseflaggee
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>>376571324
>no Castlevania
It's shit.
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>>376582334
I'd buy Nier on the Switch.
Nier on the go, in addition to being able to give Denuvo the middle finger.
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>>376584987
If you wanted to nominate it for some list touting great OSTs and stories then that's fine, but as far as ACTION games go it's not a good fucking action game, it is an average one carried hard by elements far removed from it. Dark Souls is actually praised for its gameplay more often than not so your other point also falls flat.

If anything you reek of a NieR secondary.
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>>376585024
Nier being this popular in Japan is a big deal for Taro. (no one cares about western cucks obviously).

While his games were always recognized in Japan, they were never that popular. Taro is growing bigger and perhaps we would witness a high budget game from him in our life time.
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>>376582334
He said they would put Automata on the SNES if Squeenix paid for it. I would play that.
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>>376585209
It's still action game.

You just don't understand what "action" means in Japan.
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>>376585291
>wanting high budget Taro when the shoestring nature of his game's developments are part of their core "Taro factor"
Automata really did a number on the Cult of Taro, huh?
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>>376571324
>super mario bros

into the trash it goes
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>>376585369
>backpedaling
Kirby games have the collective plot depth of a puddle and they're good action games that worked their way into this list

Okami and DMC are pretty simple plots, Mario is on there fucking twice. The thing about those is their actually good gameplay compared to NieR's neutered version of a Platinum Game. It's an "action" game but it's not a good one more than it is a good story based game with action game play.
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This list is pretty bad
Okami has got to be the most bizzare entry

Nips must just have a hard on for Kamiya or something
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>>376585448
>cult of taro

who cares about retarded gaijin niwakas.
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>>376572651
>he doesn't like SMB
lol sony
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Japanese Gamespot is at it again.
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>>376585678
Nier Automata has great action gameplay, you are just painfully retarded to expect it to be the same as some MGR shit with S ranks.
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>>376585789
taro's had fans for a long time, I don't think they're bandwagoning. Beside taro games have never been big, and always weird, so of course a cult will develop.
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>>376586031
>even on its hardest difficulty it's impossible to be punished for spamming dodge
>chips invalidate the difficulty, and any retard can further this with chip fusion
>the cost of using absurd pod programs is ten seconds of wait time
>movesets are only somewhat fleshed out and incredibly forgiving
>easy as fuck before you even find he blacksmith to get high upgrade weapons and rape the predictable enemies
>9S is a joke difficulty
>A2 has a berserker mode even
>nothing stopping you from just holding laser pod at a distance, most of the bosses are incredibly non confrontational
>some of the least interesting designs and personalities for bosses in ANY Taro game
>even likeable characters keep doing retarded shit all the time
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>>376586092
>taro's had fans for a long time, I don't think they're bandwagoning. Beside taro games have never been big, and always weird, so of course a cult will develop.

Everyone in Japan is happy about Taro's success with Nier Automata and wish he'd make even better game.

Only western niwakas who don't even understand shit about him as a person would be mad about his success. I've seen dozens of gaijin niwakas already on 4chan, it's always hilarious to see someone pretending to be a "TRUE FAN" (from the west of course) of Nasu and hate him for his new works at the same time.

Taro's games were always Japanese-only products together with side materials and merchandise. No one cares what some self-proclaimed "fans" say about him.
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>>376586339
who are you quoting kid?
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>>376586445
True secondary detected, don't you have an Automata skin pack to buy?
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>>376586445
Muh Japanese. You can be a fan and not be Japanese. Stop being so elitist, or false flagging so hard. It's obnoxious either way.
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>>376586523
>who are you quoting with that green text
Textbook shitter backpedaling, another tally mark on my whiteboard of Internet arguments won, fucker
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>>376586564
Good to know you've got BTFO you disgusting gaijin scum.

Go listen to some shitty DUB in your non-canon dumbed down Gestalt version for the western secondaries who don't understand the original game and original Nier lmao.

>>376586681
>Muh Japanese. You can be a fan and not be Japanese. Stop being so elitist, or false flagging so hard. It's obnoxious either way.

Japanese games are meant to be played in Japan only. Especially the games that are not oriented on the Western market and all Taro's games are meant to be played in Japan by Japanese people who'd understand the message and read the side materials released in Japan.
You can only get a dumbed down versions with shitty dub and shitty translations that are far from being correct, or even replaced MC because gaijins can't even fucking understand the original one and need a replacement.

It's a joke to think that gaijin Taro-"fans" are real and not the other bunch of EOP "ironic weebs".
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>>376587317
>liking twink prostitute over best dad
>said superior dad was even in Automata
This false flagging is reaching incomprehensible levels
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Japs really don't really bother categorizing games well do they.
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>>376571324
>DS3 that high
Well, at least BB is still the superior souls game.
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>>376587494
The game was made with brother Nier in mind and all 3 of the main characters including Emil, Kaine and Weiss are having their lines written for the brother Nier and not for some shitty gaijin daddy.
Shitty daddy Nier makes no sense in the game and ruins the synergy among the main cast and it's not surprising at all because he's just a dumbed down version of the MC.
>said superior dad was even in Automata
Yea guess what outfits were used in Automata. Clearly not some non-canon crap from Gestalt.
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>>376587769
Calm down, secondary, you'll get your chance to play DoD soon enough.
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>>376587317
Hey, guy who speaks Japanese and lives in Japan here. This is just a public service announcement to anyone who may have taken the post I am replying to seriously or even semi-seriously. This guy is a conceited faggot and probably retarded too.

Have a wonderful day, and remember not to let weeaboos/fake shitpost weeaboos trick you into falling for the "dubs and translations are always trash" meme.
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>>376583509
Ehy do devs/marketers do this? Halo had a few dozens of "killers" too, it never ends well
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>>376587769
>can't read japanese
>thinks he knows anything about the character's original lines
>at best played a shitty undub which still used the localization text

you're so retarded it's no wonder your opinion is so terrible
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>>376587537
Action is a really fucking vague category, dude.
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>botw > automata > BB > dmc
Literally the opposite of the correct ordering of those
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>>376571324
>Bayonetta
>No Metal Gear Rising Revengeance

I'm surprisingly OK with this.
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>>376588101
>>376587926
>>376587937

Are you doing my job telling how painfully retarded you are, EOP gaijins? Thanks I guess, that's what I've been saying about you for ages. At least you are self-aware now.
It's always hilarious to see secondary "Taro-fans" who don't even understand how irrelevant daddy-Nier in the story is and how he's ruining the game that was meant to have brother Nier instead.

But hey, how would you even know that you sad EOP dub-users?
I don't even need to ask if you actually played a single Taro's game without utter garbage dub or engrish translation made by incompetent retards. Because the answer is - of course you didn't. You know the most hilarious thing I've seen here is how you played the first ドラッグオンドラグーン with a utter shit dub. Needless to say you also played DoD-3 with a shitty dub as well.

Fucking gaijin "taro-fans", always have a good laugh from a bunch of EOPs.
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>okami, not god hand
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>>376571324
>NIER AUTOMATA > BLOODBORNE.
Well obviously. One's an intense button masher, the other one's just an iframe simulator.
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>>376571324
>Two metal gear solid
>Neither of them rising

What a shitty list.
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>>376588936
>iframe simulator
Is this the real male power fantasy?
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>>376589090
>Japan
>giving a single fuck about MGR

Not with that shitty music.
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>>376571324
>Nier in a top 20
What a joke. Its strengths begin and end with waifufags.

The idea that its remotely on Bayonetta or DMC's level honestly pisses me off.
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>>376589242
N:A is A-class game.

Bayo and DMC are B-tier.
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>>376589291
Its gameplay is mediocre at best compared to Bayo or DMC.
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Honestly, my biggest gripe is that they assumed, yet again, that 2 is the best classic Megaman, when all but the first surpass it in all regards but the soundtrack. Though I suppose that is to be expected due to nostalgia and hearsay, and challenging the popular consensus on a 30 years old game is not exactly a hot topic these days.
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>>376571324
Even Japs are FUfags. What the hell.
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>>376587769
>>376587494

Actually they mention both Dad and Teen Niers. Each have a different Weapon Story dedicated to them.

Papa Nier also gets the iron Pipe Weapon Story from Yonah's perspective while Teen Nier gets his costumes for the DLC.

Everyone wins.
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>>376586445
> niwaka
Why are you even using this. It didnt even latch on /a/ half a decade ago
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japan is casual center
more news at 11
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>>376590694
Japan inhabits the most casual and the most hardcore videogame players in the world. Theres absolutely no middleground.
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>>376590780
Yes, there is middleground, you are just not exposed to it since it is not worth much for sensationalist media.
The japs have their own 4chan-level neets. Hell, image board culture originated there.

Also, jap casuals are not necessarily more casual than western ones, it is just a different kind of casual.
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>>376590780
>Japan
>casuals

John, please. Do I need to remind you, fucking cowboy, who invented QTE shit and the movie-games?

Hell, the classic Japanese games such as platformers and bullet hell are considered "super hardcore" in the West.
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>>376591575
Japan is mobile game central. Do you know how popular shit like Granblue Fantasy and Fate GO is over there? Plenty of casuals over there, hate to burst your bubble.
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>>376591575
>being this much of a weeb

I play mostly japenese games but the japs are a lot more casual than westerners

for a recent example look at episode duscae for FFXV, japs complained it was too hard while westerners called it too easy
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>>376591851
Mobile games only recently became a thing in Japan.
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