SMT > Persona

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>this game is japanese rpg

>this game is hard, but fair and is better to have knowledge about enemies than actual skill or level to defeat them, grinding being almost always unnecesary

>this game has a great level/dungeon design, generally looping to a previous savepoint when you open shorcuts

>this game has the bossfight room fairly far from the savepoint

>some of the chests of this game have traps inside when you open them

>story in this game is not really the main focus, gameplay is, and cutscenes are scarce

>depending on your actions in this game, you get one or other ending, these actions sometimes being really vague in information

>builds in this game are better than mixing the skillpoints equally, but both styles are possible if you know what you´re doing

>this game is from the year 2003, and it´s called SMT: Nocturne

>Nocturne
Pleb.

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>Nocturnefags

DeSu=Debisama>Raidou>Mainline>DDS=Persona

>>376545448
>DeSu that high
>DDS that low
Good taste.

>>376545260
I was called a pleb when I said I liked Persona 4 and told to play Persona 3.

I was called a pleb when I played Persona 3 and told to play Nocturne.

Now I´m being called a faggot for playing Nocturne. I see the patern. I´m a faggot.

Just gonna start up Strange journey, never played a SMT or persona game before. What am i in for?

>>376545448
Raidou has some of the shittiest gameplay ever

Atlus should neve try anything not turnbased again besides puzzle shit

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>>376545864
It's not as bad as it looks

>>376545448
I honestly want to play the Raidou games but the gameplay looks so clunky.

>Its a SMT thread where a SMT fag tries to shit on Persona

Seems SMTfags can't make a thread without showing their insecurites.

Fuck this thread
1 nocturne
2 nocturne
3 nocturne
4 nocturne
5 final fantasy vii
6 nocturne
7 nocturne
8 final fantasy ix
9 nocturne
0 nocturne

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And like clockwork the Nocturne babies come out of the woodwork whenever Persona is mentioned, despite the newest mainline release being on a shitty portable console.

>>376545979
2nd one improves on the 1st one. I really do think that the strength of everything else makes up for the clunky battle system though, atleast give it a try.

I dunno why for every other Atlus game barely anyone talks about the battle system compared to everything else, yet with Raidou it's the first thing people bring up?

>>376545960
I thought maps were supposed to help you find your way.

>>376546226
It might be because the gameplay is so drastically different than the rest of the series, so it's the first big thing that stands out. Demon summoning and any real world shenanigans are commonplace in every SMT.

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>>376545993
You should know by now the only people SMT fags shitting are the Nocturnefags, No need to hold all SMT fans accountable for the edgelords and their shit taste.

>>376545735
No, SMT fans are retarded in general, just play them, enjoy them and avoid dicussions with the fanbase.

>not enjoying MegaTen in general
Get it together, sons of man.

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>>376544948

>SMT's battlesystem > Persona's battlesystem

There, I fixed it for ya OP

>>376546927
What is it about Nocturne that attracts the most obnoxious retards anyways?

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>>376545735
This. No matter what game you play you're always a pleb or a faggot. Your problem was that you're listening to what the smt/v/ fanbase is telling you.

I play both

And enjoy them

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>>376547957

The true way of doing things

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>>376547607
Because it's a superficial standard of what Shin Megami Tensei as a whole is. Nocturne is a gate way into SMT for newfags. The reason for this is that people who wanna get into SMT are always fed this bullshit about how "softcore" and "casual" Persona is and how the real SMT games are games like Nocturne, which is actually the most wrong anyone can be when you think about it, the other games aren't like nocturne at all.

>>376547607
Nocturne is the FFVII of smt.

I love Nocturne but even I can't deny this.

>>376548579
On the other hand Nocturne represents most of PS2 MegaTen (Raidou and DDS) in atmosphere and reused assets

But it's also the oddest in the series. Even SJ are more similar to I and II

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>>376545735
ATLUS have never, and will never improve on the much underlooked Ronde. True patricians will recognize this, but the rest of you rabble can fight over your scraps as you wish.

I like how this was a thread about SMT vs Persona overall, but just turned into /v/ throwing a shitfit over Nocturne.

>>376547607
It's the Persona 4/5 of mainline

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I play and enjoy both.
And I'm fairly certain most people in this thread do the same.

Do people really enjoy I and II, or are they just lying so they can act elitist? I liked the story of bothm but everything else is garbage

You're correct thinking that Nocturne is the best.

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>>376544948
>a twink beating up demons and angels

It's all weebshit. There's no winner here.

>>376551290
so much this?
ugh... #F*ckJapan

>>376551290
And yet would you look at 2017's game releases so far.

>>376544948
I generally like mainlne more because it's more replayable, Persona I maybe play twice to see all the social links but there's no reason to try other things gameplay wise like in SMT.

>>376551267

anything is possible when a little kid puts a bug in your eye

DemiKids and Nocturne are the only good SMT games. Prove me wrong.

>>376547607
Nocturne was the first mainline game released in the West. SMT I and II remained in Japan out of fear that Westerners would be offended that YHVH is evil because Japanese Gods suck at protecting their homeland.

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If it's not 3D it's not worth touching

Jack Bros

Mainline is shit. Every single one is awful. SMT is good for the spinoffs only.

>>376551459
Do i have to look at the games for 2017? Can i look at 2016 or 15 instead?

>>376551647
Those are both shit and Soul Hackers exists.

>>376551405
I know right, bro?
#dropanothaone

>>376544948
I like both.

>>376547607
It's the only mainline game that is actually good

EO > SMT

>>376551919
Mainline is shit because it keeps repeating the plot of YHVH destroying the world to build his Millenium Kingdom and a great wall to keep up the unclean ones.

>>376551831
DDS fucking sucks. Glad I emulated it instead actually spending money on that shit. Even Persona is better.

>>376545260
Pre Nocturne SMT consisted of equipping status effecting bullets and auto attacking things to death with the exception of occasional mobs immune to bullets.

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>Read thread
>All of it is entirely
>X sucks
>Y is shit
>Z is the only one that's actually good
>Z fucking sucks
I need to stop browsing /v/.

>>376552385
All SMT games are shit in their own ways. It's what fives them their charm, really.

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>Plebs arguing about their shitty games when Soul Hackers is the absolute best game Atlus has ever made

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>play nocturne
>everything before yoyogi park

I'm glad my friend had a save before matador. I fucking hate the beginning.

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All who defile His name shall perish in the name of our Lord!

Why is Metatron so fucking badass?

>>376553006
Go to bed Betatron

>>376552636
Mah nigga

>>376552636
Soul hackers is garbage

Literally the only good shit about that game is it's side content

Why does anyone pretend this game is good?

>>376544948
Top kek

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Obviously.

Reminder that if you like Nocturne's True Demon ending but shit on Apocalypse's Anarchy ending for being too edgy you're actually retarded.

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>>376553135
Good dungeon design.
Fucking radical Sega Saturn aesthetic
Top tier 90's character and demon designs
Based music

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>SMT has no Waifus

>>376553006

YHVH wrote this post

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>>376553249
>shitting on anarchy ending

>>376553328
>tfw Devil Summoner 1 will never be translated

>>376553712
I like the Anarchy ending, but I've seen Nocturnefags shit on it for being super edgy while unironically praising the True Demon route.

>>376544948

>2017
>playing turn based combat garbage

No thanks, I'll stick with Soulsborne, NieR:Atomata and Nioh.

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Nah

>>376545735
SMT fans are insecure.

>>376547957
>>376548040
>>376547164
I always take it as ironic shitposting, or brotherly rivalry. Know very few people that don't like both.

>>376553984

>shittendo holding smt, monhun and bayo2 hostage

Haha, never ever Sonyfags.

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>>376553006
>play devil survivor overclocked
>str build with pierce and dual shadow+
>dies like a little bitch

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>>376553748
Iktf

>>376553984

>The bottom menu is still infinitely clearer and more user friendly than the top
That's what you get for style over substance.

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Hey Homeslice.

>>376554698
>Style over substance
That doesn't even make sense in context and you don't even know what you're talking about just like every one who complains about P5's UI

>>376554698
>oh man reading the menu is so hard, how will I ever manage
It's okay to admit that Persona has a bigger budget

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>>376553006
Because he's a robot, but also an angel.

>>376555119

And yet it's still outdone by a handheld afterthought with cardboard cutouts for cutscenes.

>>376554698
Persona's is also more fluid and quicker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvhsJ1Jhw1w

>>376553984
desu there's no reason Persona can't be both a flagship series as well as still beomg acknowledged as a spinoff.

Can you make a 15 year old neet or your highschool teacher your girlfriend in this game? If not I don't a fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDwBp5ddNOI

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Feeling like going back to Nocturne after Eternal Punishment.

Dropped it due to the lack of interest in the story but I think I can manage now.

>>376553984
So with Hackshino gone will we finally get a persona that isn't just a glorified dating sim?

I never played a megaten game, and just this year finally got around to emulating it. I started persona 3, nocturne, sj and devil survivor, and keep alternating between them. I supose i should go in order, but im still enjoying the ride nevertheless.

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>>376552145
delet yourself

>>376555941
play one at a time they are all long games that deserve your undivided attention

>>376553915
>Implying that you can't play both

>>376555941
Focus on one, just one of these games can take a lot out of you. I usually end up dropping Persona 3 for months on end if that's not the ONLY game I'm playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3wS7QEwUbs

>tfw I want to replay Nocturne and the games before but then I remember the fusion system

P4G and DeSu QOL improvements spoiled me. I fucking wish V is a remake of 1 and Nocturne gets another re-release.

>>376556251
Unironically the best possible ending.

>>376554698
>persona
>not user friendly
Are you retarded?

>>376545903
Devil summoner 2 was way better than the first.

>>376556030
>>376556124
Gonna focus on p3. I stopped playing because my toaster was giving me hell, but i finally got around to adjusting the settings. Sj is on my phone, so i am making progress on my free time. Devil survivor is more or less, guess i will go back to it after the others. Nocturne's atmosphere is pretty cool, and i couldnt stop thinking how stylish p3's combat was.

>>376555812
No, because it prints money.

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>>376551831
Agreed.

Man I really wish I had my 3ds right now so I could continue playing SMT IV right now. Stuck at the office for nearly 2 hours now with nothing to do; just waiting for someone to pick something up so that I can finally go home.
My first SMT and I'm starting to get into it. Just finished killing Issachar after he and mc's village turned demon. Poor guys

>>376558021
I'm surprised you managed to get into it so early. I was way passed that before it really grabbed me.

>>376553984
JUST

>>376554698
Technically if you removed all pictures and had clear tables and graphs showing numbers and just text, it would be more "clear and user friendly".
I highly suspect the next SMT game will remove sprites entirely since they take too much time to make, clearly.

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>>376544948
EO > SMT

>>376558183
I love a lot of the imagery. Plus I've played persona 3 a long ass time ago so I kinda knew what I was getting into.

>>376559350

Nah

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>>376559432
I knew what I was getting into as well, but it just took a while for it to grab me. I just didn't find any of what was happening very interesting, and then when it got interesting some new problems showed up. I suppose it's not a bad thing if you're enjoying it though.

>>376559832
Yeah

>>376553006
>betatron
>badass

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*endures*

>>376553006
Metatron is literally a retarded fag robot who's too beta to ask YHVH out

how is that badass

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>>376544948
What's with the influx of SMT threads in the past weeks? There weren't even half of those when SMT HD + Deep SJ where announced.

>>376562848
Persona 5 i guess

>>376545735
SMT fans hate popularity.
If you found out their niche they'll just say you aren't deep into it enough, no matter how much you dig into the franchise.
At some point you'll be called a pleb and be told to play some truly obscure ass untranslated SMT game on a ancient egyptian console like Giten Megami Tensei: Tokyo Mokushiroku or Ronde.

>>376560224

Not really

>>376553372
why are you posting a picture of a monkey?

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>>376552803
but isn't Yoyogi after Matador? Or do you mean first side Yoyogi that is accessed after the hospital?

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>>376555589
you can help your highschool teacher reach her reason if you know what i mean

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>2017
>the only way to play SMT2 properly is in Spanish
Retranslation or bug fix patch when?

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>>376566770
That's about as likely as Atlus localizing the game. It's been more than 10 years since the SMT2 fan translation was made. I doubt anyone would bother with it now.

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>>376566770
Right after the If... translation and Kaneko comes back.

>>376566770
Really? This may be the first time that being from Spain is worth something

>>376553984
But really what is the deal with Hallelujah having a personal demon that's basically a persona

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>>376567996
There's a fantranslation to Castilian Spanish from the same guy who made the SMT1 bug fix patch. It's pretty good and fixes whatever bugs had the English patch.

>going Bonds path on War so I can do Massacre on Apocalypse
>those lines when killing Dagda

I felt kinda bad for him, he didn't even want to be a god.

>>376544948
SMT>Persona>Devil summoners>Digital devil saga>Devil survivor>shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>literally every other jrpg in existance

>>376568934
Anon, Apocalypse is downloadable, you don't need to beat the game to unlock it.

>>376570473
I expected Apocalypse to be bullshit compared to War, so I decided to start off on a lower difficulty.

>>376570635
It could be the bullshitest thing ever and it wouldn't matter, there's no punishment for dying.

>>376570726
Yeah but I still have flashbacks of dying to Minotaur an assload of times on Hard because the one time he hit me, it's a crit and everyone dies.

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>>376545229
>>this game has a great level/dungeon design
>>story in this game is not really the main focus, gameplay is
yea no

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>Shido's Palace
>Garbage mouse puzzles, take at least half an hour each
>One mistake insta-wipes your team
>No saves

I'm so fucking sick of this shit