The Empire deserves to fall.

>>376531730
The Empire doesn't have Morrowind.

>>376531730
I played Skyrim ages ago and it was pretty fun but I never got around to playing the DLCs. Is it worth it?

Also, any good mod compilation?

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>>376531730
I wonder who could be behind this post?

>>376531730
It will though! Argonia is coming.

>>376531730

>Elves can't even keep a bunch of uppity niggers in order
>Expect to overthrow the empire

>>376532251
Solstheim's pretty comfy

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>>376532012
not my image but IIRC it's vague, Morrowind is for all intents and purposes independent and the empire has little influence, but didn't "officially" secede or something like that?

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>>376532303

I bet the next elder scrolls game will be about the Akavir tiger race invading a weakened and fragmented Tamriel. It's hinted at in the book "The Mysterious Akavir"

>>376531730
>deserves
it will. Shit in Skyrim started, because Empire cannot survive without exploiting Skyrim, so they eventualy will have to remove vast autonomy and abolish traditional political system, and establish rule directly under the Emperor. Ulfric's uprising forced them to uncover some of their card early on, which unsuprisingly rustled a lot of jimmies on both sides of border.

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>>376533479
Nah you're getting Hammerfell, pirates & shout swords

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>>376533663
>Skyrim needs take in more refugees

Wood elves should be wiped from the face of Tamriel

>>376533698
Why is there a snowboarder hanging from that ledge?

>>376534141
Kajhit*

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>>376534141
wood elves are the only elves that aren't inherently a bunch of dickheads

They sometimes just eat each other out of respect and to deter conflict

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>>376534054
>17% elves

>>376533102
more specifically, it's Empire that abondoned Morrowind during Oblivion crisis, leaving Dunmer to their fate. Eventualy army formed by house Redoran managed to stop slaughter, but not before deadra and Argonians completely ravaged country. All because Imperial commanders were too busy trying to get on abondoned throne.
They were butthurt, and for a reason. House Hlaalu that advocated for remaining in Empire was outright removed from Grand Council by survivors of remaining houses, and seat was given to House Sadras

>>376534541

How were the swamp lizards able to not only secure their own land but had enough resources and soldiers to fuck over ANOTHER province at the same time?

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>>376534054
Wish we could turn back time...

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>>376534796
they were high as fuck on tree drugs

not even kidding

>>376534796
They didn't just do that, they secured their own land and invaded Oblivion. Forget Daedra running over the country, soon Cyrodil would have to accept Daedric refugees fleeing in the face of the lizard menace had the crisis not stopped.

>>376534796
The Hist informed them about the Oblivion Crisis before it happened. They were ready and waiting, so when the Oblivion gates popped up the Argonians swarmed in and overtook Mehrunes Dagon's forces.

>>376535054

Damn, that is some hilarious shit. I would have rather played a game about some special ops lizard in an elite squad lurking in some swamp waiting for unsuspecting daedra and going commando on them.

>>376534796
apparently some tree magic that made Argonians flee home and suicide into gates, chocking them with bodies until Dagon ordered to close them. Unorthodox tactic, but hey, it worked.

Are they ever going to make a new TES game or will they just focus on MMO bullshit from now on?

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>>376535246
There's tons of TES lore shit that 90%+ of players will never know of and it's a shame

Like most would never know of pelinal's antics as a time travelling, mentally ill "robot" who almost poofed the entire race of wild elves (Ayleids) by himself in a fit of rage

>>376534796
They got really high on hist sap and saw the oblivion crisis coming ahead of time. So they prepped a lot of anti-daedra weapons/spells, and prepared their armies where the oblivion gates were going to appear in blackmarsh. Then they bumrushed them as soon as they opened forcing the daedra to close them and abandon blackmarsh. Then they turned north toward mainland morrowind.

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>>376535530
Like ants for their queen.

Explains why most argonians in Oblivion were batshit insane.

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>>376534541
If the Tribunal were still around the Oblivion crisis wouldve easily been solved and the Argonians wouldve been fucked.

But NOOOOO they had to die because they wanted to be Gods and help their race

>>376534796
The Hist Ordered the Argonians around around like it was playing a RTS.
That's a pretty big advantage in a war.

>>376535589
>There's tons of TES lore shit that 90%+ of players will never know of and it's a shame
Yeah, it's a pity. The problem is that 99% of lore discussion/podcasts/videos are either entry-tier copy-pasted-from-the-wiki bullshit or full-on Metaphysics stuff that scare most sane people away. It's never something in-between

>>376535776
they would likely died anyway, because they lost connection to Heart of Lorkhan even before events of Morrowind.
That assuming, Dagoth Ur wouldn't accidently undo creation by then.

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>>376531730
How come some people still care about TES plot after Shitrim is beyond me.

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>>376536508
Would be nice to see Vivec smash the fuck out of the Daedra tho, that'd piss Azura off to no end.

>>376536796
we cling to hope

and

>mods

>>376536796
skyrim (especially Dragonborn) had surprisingly good lore

>>376536796
Skyrim didn't do any irreparable damage to the setting or background when compared to something like Oblivion
In fact Skyrim tied up a number of loose ends like the pocket guide vs ingame representation of Cyrodiil
Morrowind is the only borderline acceptable "main quest" but really the enjoyment of the game for a lot of people is ignoring the chosen one bits entirely
>never should of come here

>>376536796
They butchered Alduin but the rest of the lore was fine.
Also Prey isn't selling well so hopefully they will try harder next time.

>>376535574
i heard some bullshit like

>well if they make a new one itll eclipse the MMO so they might not do it!

thats fucking retarded. of course they are going to keep advancing their most important brand. a new game will only make the MMO more popular, not less.

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>>376537632
Todd confirmed at Dice 2017 earlier this year that TES VI was in the works, but it's early days.

>>376537632
See: Warcraft & TOR

>>376537779
So around 2020 release date?

>>376531730
what happened to Vvardenfell?

>>376537806
i cant tell if you're agreeing, but WoW definitely got a boost from the movie. And TOR gets stronger every time some new star wars shit comes out.

>>376538145
Volcano erupted, destroyed the island.

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>>376538047
fuck knows, he said that we would probably see 2 new IPs released by them before TES VI is ready

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>>376537349
>>376537494
>>376537606
Are you nuts? Everything is a shitfest. The biggest offender is the time continuity, they simply jumped into the future, to get plot elements out of their asses. The entire Aldmeri Dominion doesn't make any sense at all. Morrowind is completely ruined, Empire lost to some elves out of nowhere, who didn't have even 10% of the power enough to destroy the might of the Imperial Legion. Alduin is the cheapest and shittiest cartoon villain which turned the story into generic good vs evil storyline. Dovahkiin is nothing but a universally revered superhero for cheap teenager appeal, cuz generic power fantasy my ass. Dark Brotherhood killed of the emperor, which had less impact than some absolutely meaningless sidequests, despite being more grand than mainquest itself.

And now they are stuck with that garbage, having nothing in mind but to follow this generic "freedom fighters vs evil racist oppressors" story in the next installment. TES is dead, and it's all thanks to Skyrim. Oblivion story despite being cheesy, was perfectly logical, continuous and perfectly understandable compared to this shitfest full of retcons, plot devices taken from butthole and logical fallacies. There is nothing they can do to improve it anymore, it's fucked beyond repair, like Warcraft.

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>>376531730
>that Vvardenfell
The island is still there, it's just completely uninhabitable. The only thing that's a massive crater now is Vivec.

>>376532251
They're decent, actually. Best part of Dawnguard are the 2 new large areas they add to the game and Dragonborn is a return to Solsthiem.

Neither are Shivering Isles tier but they're close enough, Dragonborn is considered the better of the two generally (I have no particular preference).

Also Hearthfire is essentially a plug-in (like Siege at Firemoth or the Fighters Stronghold). A house building simulator. The houses are nice though.

>>376535890
>tfw your boss is a fucking tree and you get tossed through an Oblivion gate because you got born in the wrong month and were trained by the Dark Brotherhood as part of an ancient pact between them and the aforementioned tree

>>376538562
I never played Dragonborn, but since Bethesda fucked up and everyone got Dawnguard for free, it finished it, and it was as shitty as some Fallout 3 DLC's. Huge barren wasteland with nothing to do, some moronic collectables here and there, a bit of fanservice for faggots, holy knights vs undead retardation, and a pair of tits companion for kids to be obsessed with.

Dawnguard was hands down, the worst addon in TES history.

>>376538289
Mehrunes Dagon wasn't a "bad villain"? He's literally giant four armed satan trying to kill everyone. Same with Molag Bal in ESO if it's even worth mentioning.
The Dominion makes sense but we've literally only seen a couple of patrols and two whole buildings of their power structure. Morrowind isn't ruined at all by the Red Year and is clearly rebounding. The Aldmeri Dominion was losing ground when the White Gold Concordant was signed.
There are plenty of interesting things that could be done somewhere like Hammerfell if you were to copypaste the "freedom fighters vs oppressors" in a slightly more black and white capacity than Skyrim's civil war

I would not have enjoyed a game set in a similar time difference to Morrowind -> Oblivion

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>>376538875
>Morrowind isn't ruined at all by the Red Year

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>>376538875
Taking something that was bad, and making it two times worse, is exactly what Skyrim did. This whataboutism concerning Oblivion only shows how fucked up the fanbase is, who were so buttblasted by it, that after so many years they are starved enough to consume almost anything with Elder Scrolls slapped on it.

Mehrunes Dagon was cheesy. But it was exactly what was planned many years before. Even game names were already written back in Redguard days. Skyrim was the first game in the series where they didn't have any material at all to work with, changing the name of the game, which should have been called Romanelli. Every story was made by talented writers, while Skyrim is the only game created from scratch by Todd & Co.

>>376539164
you fetching n'wah
House Telvanni still exists
House Redoran still exists
House Hlaalu exists and got what they deserved
The Temple still exists, as does House Indoril in some capacity
House Dres is likely the hardest hit as their agricultural framework got wrecked, but we never encountered them close up
We don't know enough about house Sadras to say whether it's good or bad.
Raven Rock is destitute but not indicative of the larger dunmer population anywhere
The Grey quarter is similarly squalid but Morrowind is STILL THERE
The events of Morrowind and Oblivion were responsible for the state of the "province" itself moreso than the fact that Skyrim bothered to detail the outcome

The argonian offensive was potentially overstated and everyone's gotten their shit back together.
Things can change without everything being "ruined", as what you're calling Morrowind is just the physical features and not the culture/people inhabiting it. We could easily go back and find something familiar.

>>376539879
> The events of Morrowind and Oblivion were responsible for the state of the "province" itself moreso than the fact that Skyrim bothered to detail the outcome
> the explosion out of nowhere which destroyed the entire island

Yeah right, fuck off, fanboy.

>>376539673
I'm glad it wasn't called Romanelli at the very least
Skyrim still factors in plot points from the prior titles, indicates a few possible directions to go in, and eventually you'd have to make new content or simply stop the series entirely

>>376540325
So the oblivion crisis (the argonians being relatively unaffected by it) and the death of the tribunal did nothing to the area? the ministry of truth was a known threat that vivec kept around because he was a huge dick, you can ascertain what was going to happen using only materials from Morrowind.
One big smoking crater replacing a sprawling city isn't enough to demolish an entire culture save maybe the Ashlanders on vvardenfell

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>>376540894
Who the hell cares what you like or don't like. It's just a matter of fact that the entire series were planned ahead, and there were plenty of material for every game. Oblivion made a hole in the ship, because original devs left years ago, so Todd & Co had to create the game using outsourced writers and some old materials, infusing their own shitty imagination. So the game turned out like 50% true to the original ideas and 50% Todd bullshit. Skyrim on the other hand, is 100% bullshit, having nothing in common with previous games. Every single thing that happened in Skyrim has zero basis, and is nothing but hollywood tier schlock for teens.

>>376541504
>the entire series was planned ahead
You're going to have to provide a little more substantiation than that, and it still doesn't refute the fact that you would eventually have to deviate from this "plan" when you literally run out of premade material

>>376541504
Kirbride only join at Daggerfall and was the main idea behind Morrowind

Oblivion is bullshit because Todd & Co couldn't be assed to make a jungle and decide to cash in on the high fantasy fad at the time. Skyrim's fine, except for Dawnguard's writing which is atrocious and destroy what we know about the Vokihar and the sun

>>376541809
I provided more than enough proof, even names were made back in 1997. You on the other hand, are spewing nothing but fanboy garbage, based on "i like this and didn't like that". Nobody gives a flying fuck about you and what you enjoy. They had to follow the original timeline, but they didn't, ruining the entire storyline.

>>376542081
The titles don't mean a thing except that they were safeguarding their future developments. And what you're saying tells me that "Romanelli" would be the last Elder Scrolls game before the "original timeline" would be compromised as it's clearly the farthest they bothered to plan. You're just having a fit about it one title earlier than you would have done otherwise because anything new HAS to be bad.
What singular writer masterminded the expected plotline that was then deviated from?

>>376542461
Everything that shows a middle finger to what has been done before is bad. Changing the timeline is the cheapest trick in any creative medium, which allows to justify any amount of plot holes by explaining that all that stuff happened in the past which we obviously couldn't see. Kirkbride and Ken Rolston made Morrowind what it is. Helped with some materials during creation of Oblivion. The rest was made by literal nobodies, and it shows, because Todd never had any creativity whatsoever, he's a manager after all.

>>376542996
There are a number of Kirkbride materials used in skyrim's worldbuilding. The rectification of Cyrodiil not being a jungle environment that appears in Skyrim is directly from him even. And while the surface of Skyrim isn't very esoteric or exotic, neither was the Knights of the Nine for example, despite drawing directly from Kirkbride's work. His "c0da" work has a few instances where everything is absurd enough to warrant getting dialed back considerably, which presumably is where the management types cut in. I'm not particularly sure how much input Rolston has had since then though.

>>376542996
Kirbride is fucking crazy and needs to be dialed back, but I wouldn't be surprise if the Camoran's stuff are written by him

It's not like Skyrim doesn't have interesting shit. Dragonborn DLC was cool and explore HermaMore and explore on the Dragon soul aspect (though they still don't have anything to do with Time as they are supposed to be)

>>376543407
Some more whataboutism concerning Oblivion won't change how dull Skyrim is. Lampshading is a trick to cover up mistakes which make people go "huh? what's going on here?". Skyrim entire is one huge "what the fuck were they thinking" moment. Which they will have to explain further in the next part of the series, digging the grave even deeper.

>>376543701
Dragonborn is exactly the same as Morrowind expansion for ESO. Nothing but a vile cashgrab for nostalgiafags. Some more memberberries to get high on.

>>376544005
So things that deviate from previously established locations (appearances, such as Vivec city being a crater) and the like are bad
But including these previously shown items (Dunmer Raven Rock & that half of the island) is nostalgiafag pandering?

Are we supposed to just seal everything in the Elder Scrolls Vault and re-release the same 2 or 3 games every 10 years or so instead of making any meaningful advancements to the setting?

>>376534796
Well. Morrowind was fucked due to Red Mountain exploding. It's easy to invade a region that is in crisis.

>>376534231
Khajiit*

TES will only get worse story-wise. If you want proof, just look at FO4 and think about that same company making another TES game.

It's dead, Jim. It's time to let go.

>>376544252
More of the same old stuff = rehash.
New content with no ties to the old one = plot hole.

That's exactly what Skyrim is. One gigantic plot hole with a rehashed addon. All they had to do was to continue the same story right after Oblivion crisis, and explore the theme of politics and fight for the throne, which would allow the civil war plot line to kick in in any continent of choice. Dovahkiin and dragons? Empire defeated by evil high elves? Leave that for those who loved watching He-Man on morning television.

How can Daggerfall have the largest in-game map size yet be officially smaller than the later games?

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>>376544991
> officially smaller

What do you mean dreamboy?

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>>376534054
>>376534358
RIP AND TEAR

>>376535589
he was also a retard who managed to confused cat people with knife ears

>>376545093
According to the OPs map Daggerfall takes place on a little peninsular, but in square acreage dwarfs Cyrodiil and Skyrim.

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>>376545380

>>376544991
Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim are all the same scale. Daggerfall and Arena are different.

>TES VI is 100% GUARANTEED to be skyrim: kangz edition

give me 1 good reason why it won't be the best game in the series.

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>fucking with Lorkhan's shit
Dumbass elves keep making the same mistakes.

Daggerfall isnt as "compressed" as rest of TES games
I still dont think its 1:1 though

>>376545606
more radiant quests in place of actual content

>>376545606
Because curves swords are shit.

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>>376545606
Endless empty desert with randomly spawned nigger bandits to kill with a singing curved sword, while doing infinite quests for 100g coins, fast traveling to another copy-pasted cave full of, guess what, nigger bandits.

> the EPIC SAGA returns
> 500 hours of content
> game world the size of Australia
> the best RPG with 3 skills you have ever seen

Buy now, for a ridiculously low price of $60. Mod fees may apply.

With even Zelda games doing large open fantasy worlds, is it possible to produce a new Elder Scrolls game that won't seem a little old-fashioned and quaint?

>>376545606
Argonian master race checking in, I hope it is in Black Marsh.

>>376545998
1. please do not use the n word. redguards are based black guys, am i right fellow pedes?
2. hammerfell is much more diverse than just "desert."
3. with all the improvements fallout 4 made to the generic bethesda copy & pasted open world sandbox setting, skyrim 2 will be much more than just endless draugr tombs

i think you're just a hater t b h

>>376546205
Considering that TES started the entire openworld trend in the industry, by exposing all that glory to console peasants who were so shocked, they craved for more, hence why every single developer tries to cash on lifeless openworld games now? Of course it will be old-fashioned. The fashion creator tends to become unfashionable first, when hype calms down. But with mere 100 million dollars of marketing, it will be popular again, with more hype than before, so don't worry, TES VI will sell a gozzillion copies even it will be a menu with 50 gigabyte picture of Todd's asshole.

>>376535589
He was also a homosex...really.
One of the important plot points is when elven kings murdered the only person he has ever truly loved, Huna who was a spearman.
He went super Saiyan "screaming heart talking to Akatosh" mode and fucked shit up.

>>376546493
That's some really weak bait.

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>>376546493
Using the words 'redguard' and 'diverse' in the same sentence, that really enriches my almonds.

>>376546205
Zelda and Horizon worlds look pretty average imo, nothing new that TES had already done it before.

>>376539673
Pls stop talking shit, if you knew lore you would know that aldmeri Dominion returning was also part of the plot and was forshadowed by MK

>>376546773
Somehow every major character is a raging homo. Like Vivec.

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>>376547078
Foreshadow it for me, my acolyte.

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Stop non-nordic immigration to skyrim
Stop the Aldmeri Dominion
Stop banning the worship of Talos
Stop Integrating non-nords immigrants
Stop the genocide of native nords
Stop the Altmerification of Skyrim via White-Gold Concordat
Stop "multiculturalism"

>>376546887
That's the point, if even these games can copy TES then what can TES do to set itself apart again?

>>376547253
Stop being shitty and finally create an openworld which isn't lifeless copypaste? Oh, never mind, won't happen.

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>REMOVE ELF

>>376547229
>Weaponize Shouts
>Banned Divines worship for Nordic pantheon
>Rule with Strength and honor
>Sacrifice himself for Men
>Return several times for Men

Fucking Hjalti Fag-Beard taking based Ysmir away

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>>376547120
Vivec is a hermaphrodite, so it ain't gay.
Feminine Muatras are not gay anyway

>>376547120
Just like real life. Everyone was dipping in the boipucci back when people got shit done.

>>376547737
Oh boy, there we go again. Sucking milk fingers is gay, no matter how feminine the swit is.

>>376531730

Sure (((Thalmor)))

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>>376547886
> boipucci
> got shit done

>>376547886
>Greek
>getting anything done

>>376537779
Why does Todd pretend that these games take years to make when it's 90% repurposed assets and code?

I understand Daggerfall was procedurally generated in a way, but if that is the case how can you map it and compare it to the other games size wise?

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>>376548307
this time we're getting a new engine

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>>376547934
Who said anything about sucking milk fingers?
Muatra is a milk taker anyway. Vivec is a bottom.

>>376534796
The Hist informed them of the invasion years before the event and when the Gates opened the lizards raped Dagon's forces instead of the usual other way around. Invaded Oblivion and proceeded to RIP AND TEAR

>>376548212
Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Arabs, Crusaders, Victorian England, every culture that made a difference had some no homo assplay.
Old Greeks got a lot done. We wuz steam engines and sheit.

>>376548307
Creating gimmicks and then marketing the game takes around a year, every AAA release starts building hype 1 year in advance. So basically he spends 25% of the time shilling hard instead of making the game. Plus don't forget that they probably create a working prototype in like 6 months, and then proceed to fix that garbage for the next year because everything is falling apart. Oh, and of course, they make it with Xbox in mind, only then porting it to PC.

>>376534054
>3% of the population
>commits 40% of the crimes
Skyxit when?

>>376548431
Bumping this question. How can we say that Daggerfall is that big?

>>376548470
Will it have working ladders?

>>376548978
Khajiit are allowed only because they are cute. I wish gypsies were as cute, maybe i wouldn't get a desire to gas them IRL then.

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>>376548978
tree niggers need to hanged

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>>376548431
>>376549083
You can't. Don't tell it to Daggerfags.

>>376548307
same reason he pretends it takes a fuckload of money to make it when in reality 95% of the game's budget is spent on marketing, 4% on shitty VA's no one cares about and the rest 1% is actually spent on making the game

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>>376548978
Khajiit only sale drugs, they don't do violence. Most bandits are Nords with a lot of Orcs for their populations.
>>376548553
>Fem Vivec futa
This has to be cannon at some point.

>>376548431
The dungeons and lands between cities were procedurally generated (for example where exactly a 2D tree sprite would appear because there was literally nothing else), but not the actual terrain or cities.

>>376538813
>Dawnguard was hands down, the worst addon in TES history.
worse than horse armor?

>>376549842
So are people just measuring the space between each dungeon and city?

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>>376549903
Addon is usually a word referring to expansions, not mere cosmetic dlc's.

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>>376541504
>It's just a matter of fact that the entire series were planned ahead, and there were plenty of material for every game.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:The_Firsthold_Revolt

Morrowind was originally going to take place in Summerset Isles. That little book in Morrowind describes what was originally going to be a part of its main quest.

>>376548431
>how can you map it and compare it to the other games size wise?
By measuring its size and mapping it. Daggerfall's world is the same for everyone and has a finite size. You can in fact walk from place to place and it doesn't even take that long (10-15 minutes) if they're close. It's a common rite of passage for many new characters to walk south from Privateer's Hold (the tutorial dungeon) to Gothway Garden (the closest settlement) and that only takes a few minutes since their pixels are right next to each other on the world map.

Procedural generation was used by Bethesda to create all of the many thousands of locations in the game, but it's an important distinction that Bethesda is the one who procedurally generated them. The game itself doesn't generate any dungeons, towns, etc.; they're completely static and stored explicitly in the game files: BLOCKS.BSA contains their parts and MAPS.BSA describes how those parts fit together for every single location in the game. This doesn't take 100 terabytes of data because there's actually not that many blocks and they're each reused several hundred times, which is why the game world feels so repetitive: it literally IS a matter of copy-and-paste.

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>>376550218
Kind of. I'm tired so I apologize in advance if my explanation blows:
So basically take this screenshot. All the plant life there was procedurally generated, but the land/ground itself was not. So when you first run the game the entire map is empty (besides cities being in the same place), but it still exists and has a measurable size: there are still borders to the game world, those never change. What is inside the games borders is what changes and often procedurally generated.

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>>376533698
>ywn get full on blackflag naval combat because Bethesda is incompetent
Feels bad.

>>376550439
>>376550658
This makes sense. Thanks anons.

So basically the game itself IS huge, but much of what is in between the cities and dungeons is procedurally generated.

While in later games (Skyrim) everything was placed there specifically by a human

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What will be the Master Race of TES VI?

Bosmer Stealth Archer Master Race has been holding strong for a good few years now

>>376542996
Rolstrom is the fag who made oblivion generic lotr crap.

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>>376552527
Ah yes, we've been expecting you. Please extinguish your asshole before you can be officially released.

>making peace with island elves
Yes, they deserve to be reduced to only Cyrodiil

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Oblivion wasn't a jungle because it was fucking impossible to do dense jungles at the time at that scale in a game like Oblivion and get more than 1fps.

Oblivions performance shit the bed with it's chill rolling meadows, nevermind properly dense jungles like in the lore.

Console system restraints caused the retcon, not much to do with
>hurrdurr lotr

>>376544880
Yeah. Martin sacrificing himself, no heir to the throne, assassination of Ocato, shit getting stirred due to the Oblivion crisis.

Instead of a civil war for the Empire we get a shitty squabble that has nothing to do to the main plot. I never advanced that questline in Skyrim. I never bothered completing the main quest actually.

>>376553394
>I never bothered completing the main quest actually.
It's a huge waste of time. You run around in valhall- sovngarde for a while, fight a dragon that is played up as the big bad but is, in fact, the exact same thing as the dragons you've been chewing through for 10 hours, and then get told to fuck off and you're given a spell that summons some named mooks for your trouble.

>>376553026
>Royston was the lead designer for Bethesda's role-playing game, The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, its expansions, and was also lead designer for The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. He was lead
>lead designer for oblivion

Eat shit, he was a detriment and shitmonger.

>>376553807
I watched SuperBunnyHop's video on the game and related a lot to it. He went into some detail about how shit the plot is.
I think that it is a very beautiful game and for some time really tried playing it but always dropped after some time, then I would wonder why I did that and tried playing again, only to go "oh, that's why" and drop another time.

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>>376550218
>So are people just measuring the space between each dungeon and city?
Sort of. They just measure the land itself and that could still be done even if there were no dungeons or cities in the game whatsoever. The wilderness when it comes to actual gameplay content is fairly described as empty, but it's not an entirely random blank slate like a fresh Minecraft world, for example. It's pre-defined on a broader scale than you experience in the game: elevation is marked every so often and the individual polygons that make up the "noise" in the terrain are generated based on those static heights. Likewise, the climate of each area and type of flora sprites used is predefined, while their individual locations on the terrain is generated as you explore.

It's interesting since you can look at the pre-noise heightmap of Daggerfall and notice two anomalies, spots that are much higher than their surrounding areas. One is on the southern coast of Balfiera and the other is in northern Tigonus. If you visit those locations in game they are in fact two large mountains, but you can't ever really make them out because of the abysmal view distance. Nonetheless if you get on your horse and ride directly to them you will experience a sharp rise in elevation.

The data containing all this has an effective resolution of 5000x2500 when noise is applied, which given the size of Daggerfall means height and climate are statically defined roughly every 114-165 (depending on how you measure the total map size) meters.

What's up with the blades? They went from being the good guys to being a fanatical cult like the BoS in fallout. One old friendly dragon on a mountain ain't a threat.

>>376539879
Check the damage done to Solstheim.
Now check where Solstheim is in relation to Vvardenfell.
Now with Vvardenfell as the center draw an arc with Solstheim as the outer point and you will see not only is Vvaredenfell totally destroyed mainland Morrowind is nearly as fucked.

Things did not just get a little dusty.Red Mountain went Krakatoa.

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>>376554852
Well they are an order of elite warriors who are dragon slayers from Akavir and when they came to Tamriel and when they saw how badass Ramen Cyrodiil was they dedicated themselves to be the Emperor's personal elite guard.

>>376553807
The only thing good about it is that it implies Lorkhan/Shor is planning something by preventing people from fighting Alduin, and when Lorkhan/Shor planning something it would be fun (if Beth capitalize on it and write this intentionally)

>>376547120
Just the ones Cuckbride writes.
He would have fit in better with Obsidian to be honest.

>>376555517
I'm pretty sure he just didn't want the soul of every great nord warrior ever to be devoured and knew about the dragonborn. He left the plebs outside to be eaten

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>>376546493
Is this some sort of post-bait. A bait that doesn't try to bait with the actual bait but with the fact that its so bad of a bait.

>>376545306
Funnily enough the song from Doom of this same name has been in my head all day

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Someone just tell me if skse64 is dead. I don't want to hold out hope only to find out it died two years ago.

>>376553368
Then what do guards wear ugly generic crap like lotr instead of iorica segmentata armor like proper romans?

At least the empire in skyrim seemed roman. Face it, holstrom was a hack.

>>376558046
The guy just doesn't have the time to make it.

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>>376558609
Woah sonny jim, Oblivion had a lot of very ugly armor sets, but the guard's were top notch.

>>376555248
What damage?

The bottom half is ashy, real earth volcanoes spread ash all through the atmosphere too. Real volcanoes make islands bigger, they don't destroy them. True, some high pressure eruptions have damaged the crater, but having an entire island be destroyed or blown up is fucking retarded.

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>this thread

>>376558919
Still not roman, get that shit back in high rock and out of my cyrodiil.

I didn't spend like 4 games saving the Empire just to let it('s quasi-successor) fall...

>>376534358
23%*
Orcs are elves B.

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>>376558919
>literally just cast iron
Oblivion guard armor is bad even for real world standards.

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>>376558716
>the future of bethesda hinges on one dude who doesn't even get payed nor is obligated to do anything

>>376559323

Orcs WERE elves. They're no longer elves just like khajiit aren't.

>>376559064
Trees knocked down.
Heart stones littered about.It would be reasonable to assume they came from the heart of Red Mountain.

Now go look up Krakatoa.Going by how much damage was done to Solstheim and as far away as Winterhold it was a Krakatoa level eruption,

>>376559490
>future of bethesda
normals will eat anything bethesda shits out.

>>376555561
*Kirkbride

>>376559601
Okay, how about
>a significant fraction of Bethesda's dedicated player base hinges on one dude who doesn't even get payed nor is obligated to do anything

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>Got sick of every "epic" battle in Elder Scrolls post Morrowind being 12 dudes fighting another group of 12 dudes.
>Find Elder Scrolls: Total War.

Nothing says "Fuck the elves" like leading actual armies in Aldmeri scum territory.

>>376559858
>a significant fraction
The shekels flow before the mods pal.

>>376559952
I think an actual total war TES title would have to be set back in time quite a bit, that way you can add dwemer in for some extra variety

>>376559987
There are expectations among a large fraction of the player base.

>>376559538
Thats like saying none of the mer are elves because none of them are aldmer anymore. Orcs are changed mer, just like all the others.

>Mer (also called Elvenkind or just Elves,
>Mer come in an array of colors, from dark grey, to light green to pale yellow. Of the mer race, there are multiple subraces currently existing on the Tamrielic continent. These include, Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orsimer, Dwemer, Chimer, Snow Elf, and Ayleid.

And lets not forget the falmer.

>>376559538
OrsiMER

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>>376561078
Asbjorn Fire-TaMER

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>>376560878
>>376561078
Fucking furries, stop merring at me.

>>376559064

>but having an entire island be destroyed or blown up is fucking retarded.

Never heard of Mt. Krakatoa then I take it.

tl;dr version - Volcanic island in the pacific is there one day, completely fucking gone the next, with waves hitting thousands of miles away and temp drops of a few degrees all over the world. Was in the 1800s or thereabouts.

>>376560382

>add in dwemer
>the most advanced, powerful race
>steamroll everyone with animunculi, ballistae, and heavily armored warriors

I mean, they'd rape everything but yeah that'd be pretty sweet to see like five of those giant centurions smashing a few legions to dust.

>>376554852
They were never good guys. You just happened to be firmly on their good side before.

>>376562776
>the most advanced, powerful race
The Dwemer disappeared in the first era. Everyone was more advanced and/or more powerful.
Imperials and Altmer had literal spaceships
The Thu'um was much more common among the Nords and could do some pretty amazing stuff
Magic in general was much, much more advanced.

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>>376563305
>Imperials

>post yfw you complete the Bonemold recipe quest and find the letter in the basement

>>376563481
Yes? The Alessian empire? The second empire started in the first era too. Does the name Reman ring any bells?

>>376563793

In Glover's house? I think I found one, but I don't recall what it says. Gimme the gist of it please?

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>You will never see Black Marsh or Elsweyr because that would require too much creativity and effort by Bethesda
>It's going to be boring niggerland

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>>376563305
>tfw you realize everything is going backwards
>next era wars will be sticks and stones
>a few more eras argonians will de-evolve into dinosaurs, normal khajiits will disapear and only saber-toothed khajiits will remain, humans will be monkeys
>the only ones who gets the good part of the deal are mer, who gets to be divine once again like they used to be

>>376564115
you'll also get to revisit the epic lands of skyrim as dlc!

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current game
>role playing a werewolf
>pick speech craft as a major skill for the intimidation
>it's just like my p&p rpg's!

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>>376563793

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>>376534796
By being mind controlled by sentient trees and fucking the daedra so hard they retreated into Oblivion and had to close their gates to stop the argonian fuckery

>>376564060
It's for his daughter
Sapphire, from the thieves guild

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>>376545606
I can't because Redguards are some of the most stupid OP races in TES along with the Argonians, Dunmer and mayber Bosmer(with the whole, shapeshifting into a giant shapeshifting cronenberg hivemind monster)

The redguards can cut atoms with a sword, with varying degrees of success

>>376564830
Why can't they spread those trees everywhere and take over the world then?

>>376565358

>actually went to look at my save where I did the bone quest
>went back and read the letter

Shit. Now i'm wondering if I can take it and give it to her. I just left it where I found it.

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>>376564115
>No drug fuelled nights with Sanguine in the Elsweyr capital(s)
>No travelling though the underground highway in translucent bioluminecent bugs

>>376565559

I can agree with Bosmer being OP as fuck, Dunmer to a slightly lesser extent, but I've never seen any proof Redguards are any good. And yes, I played as a couple of them, they were almost as shitty as imperials. Argonians weren't all that great either, above Imperials, but below most every other race.

>>376565559
>when you travel to another time continuum
>when you meme gods into reality
>when you slash something so hard you sink an island
>when you put rocks on top of each other and almost make time move backwards
>when you instead invade the demons
>when you summon a floating island which is basically a giant kitchen to purge other races and race traitors

>>376565939
You can

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>>376566119
we're talking In-Lore, not In-Game

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>>376564147
>the races begin to devolve
>The Sloan make a comeback and become a playable race
10/10 would chim again.

>>376566281
Aside from the wild hunt what do bosmer even have? A ,formerly walking, tree 8 times taller than the white gold tower but what is that worth?

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>>376566119
I often just pick argonians so I don't have to worry about drowning.

>>376566281
>mfw I've actually talked to trainwiz
>mfw he says any problems someone has with one of his mods are not his fault even if it very very clearly is

>>376566729
trainwiz is a fairly regular poster in TES threads anyway

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>>376566729

I wonder how bad someone has to be in mortal life to end up in oblivion. Olaf one eye sounded like an asshole tyrant king as a mortal but still made it in sovngarde and so does Ulfric

>>376567212
You end up in oblivion if a daedra has claim to your soul by some measure
Or if you get soul trapped and your sense of self gets discarded into the soul cairn or something similar