14 months after release, Dark Souls 3 is finally fixed

You cant fix shitty combat

>buffing rkpgs
babbies will cry

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>still no ledo's armour

brb killing myself

>>376528085
Faggot!

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>Increased luck for poison, bleed, and hollow-infused and decreased stamina consumption of Astora Straight Sword.

Feels good, man.

>>376528231
>Can no longer swivel like an AI
>Get a buff
Sounds perfectly fine to me.

Does Poise work yet?

Is the garbage netcode fixed yet?

>>376528498
poise has always worked

If removing infinite respecs is part of the "small fixes" I'm done with DaS3, the only reason I play anymore is because I can make whatever stupid build that comes to mind without trudging through the boring as shit PvE.

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tfw my game keeps stuttering every 10 seconds
it was fine at release wtf

>>376528498
>Poise
It received a passable buff with Ringed City release to actually be usable.
It's still worthless if your weapon doesn't have hyper armor, meaning no rapier in Havel's, but it's definitely usable now.

>>376528534
no

>>376528457
NIGGER!

>From fixed the game right after GOTY
They are the only /v/ approved company.
Thank you FromSoftware!

>>376528583
use CE

But if you play on PS4, you can always use save wizard editor

>>376528583
just cheat engine bro

way easier than quitting and relaunching the game

>>376527987
>still not fixing the mediocrity of the game
Nobody cares.

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>>376527987
Did they fix the roll spamming, useless equipment, spastic combat where you move faster than your own animations, or world design where 80% of the game is a swamp that goes on forever with absolutely nothing interesting in it?

No? Then fuck off.

>Increased stamina consumption of Lightning Arrow and decreased stamina recovery speed while the player is drawing the bow

They didn't touch the damage at least, I'll take it this as a-okay.

>>376528850
>80% of the game is a swamp
Lolwhat.
Besides that, nothing has been fixed.

>>376528850
HAPPY FEET
WOMBO COMBO

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Great, another patch that doesn't affect any shit i ever do.

>>376528897
>They didn't touch the damage at least, I'll take it this as a-okay.
They'll get to that next update.

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>>376528283

Never ever.

>>376528850

Farron Swamp isn't even that bad. You can light the flames in 5 minutes. Poison cave with a gorillion poison spitting statues in DaS2 was much more offensive, despite being so short.

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>>376527987
Will there be a patch that adds more chests and pathways so the game doesn't have shit build progression and replayability?

>>376529013
>400 pve and 180-200 pvp with the 2 miracle rings and lightning clutch ring

I wouldn't see a point to it that much, especially now that you can punish lightning bow users easier now by just pressuring them because of the stamina.

>>376529013
>next update

Kek.

>>376529178
no unfortunately, we will never get the dark souls 3 that we deserve

>millwood greatbow didn't get touched

thank fuck

>>376528850
Garbage game

>>376528942

>Crucifix Woods Swamp
>Farron Swamp
>Cathedral of the Deep swampy bottom floor.
>Smouldering Lake swamp.
>Irithyll swamp.
>Profaned Capital swamp.
>Consumed King's Garden toxic swamp.
>Ringed City swamp.

>>376527987
>Reduced rotation capabilities of the Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords
>Decreased stamina consumption for Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords attack and increased attack power of Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords

Holy shit they actually realized the easymode homing was the problem.

>>376528737
>>376528747
Doesn't CE get you softbanned?

>>376529717
If you know what you can and cant do

>>376529536
Not him, but holy shit, you're actually right. Now I realized why I hated the area design in DS3 even though everyone on /v/ was saying it's good.

>>376529703
>tfw ringed swords were never a problem for halberd users
>tfw now

Halberd new meta

>>376529717
not any more than alt+f4 after respeccing but before closing the dialogue does
>>376529850
halberds are bad
if your weapon doesn't swing faster than they can roll, it's a shit weapon

>>376529850
Halberd R1s are so slow its like I'm using an ultra greatsword.

Only BKH is worth using IMO

>>376529178
The game doesn't need a complete remake and waste of resources like dark souls 2 needed

lmao spam roll lmao spam heal lmao spam r1

remember when you had to do the correct action at the correct time or you'd die? me neither I started with ds3! :^)

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>>376530007
You don't fight locked on with a halberd my friend. I actually say you should fight locked on in any pvp fight because if you do it will be a roll and outspacing contest that last forever.

>>376530123
Glaive works really nicely to use the slowness against people, you can catch them with the weapon art when they come in after you swing and pop them for an easy 700.

>>376528942
>>376529536
>>376529810
Even if it wasn't a literal swamp for the majority of the game, LITERALLY EVERY AREA HAS THE EXACT SAME COLOR SCHEME.

No area stands out from another, they all have the same dusty/muddy color scheme, it's so boring to look at.

>>376529536
Half of Crucifix Woods.
Like 2 minutes of the Cathedral.
A third of Smouldering Lake.
A third of Irithyll.
A tiny, completely optional side area in Profaned Capital.
And you forgot there's 2 swamps in Ringed City. Half of the Dreg Heap is a blend of Blighttown, Earthen Peak, and the Crucifixion Swamp.

Admittedly, it's more than the other games, but it's still not so bad that it's worth complaining about.

>>376530224
It would be great if hits were horizontal instead of acting like pseudo greataxes

>Not fixing the lingering hitboxes on straight sword R1s that make them so fucking retarded in online
>Not fixing them in general because they are the easy-mode weapon
>All builds still play the same using the exact same weapons at all times
>Game is still shit

"Fixed", right. The one good and significant thing they did was buff the Farron Greatsword, because it did less damage than a regular cocksucking greatsword while being a fucking ULTRA greatsword, and the new paired meme ultras get big damage but the original gimmick ultra greatsword doesn't? fuck that, at least they fixed it.

But because it's FromSoft the attack increase will probably be of like 20 points or some other dumb shit and people can still parry it while you can't parry the super special paired ultras that you have to pay for to have, and also lock people with a goddamn infinite stunlock.

Man, fuck this no-fun piece of shit game.

>still no fixes for caster builds
>still no changing the 60 int requirement to do moderate damage
>still needing rings to reduce cast time and do damage
>still doing piss poor damage with elemental infusions
>spells still have terrible tracking
>crystal variant spells still take a fucking millennia to cast
>attunement still tied to dex
>dark spells are still piss poor in every aspect

I'm done hoping that fromsoft may actually address these day one issues, at this point i cant tell whether they are just flat out incompetent at balancing or they just havent been given enough money to actually care. Reason i came up with the second part is because hunter tools were actually decent to use in pvp despite that the game is pretty fast.

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>Decreased stamina consumption for Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords attack and increased attack power of Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords

NANI!?

>caring about PvP
Wish this series never came to PC.

>>376529536
Half of those are tiny and don't slow your movement

Don't be a pedant

>IT'S FIXED!
>If you only give a shit about PVP, the PVE is still dogshit.

>>376530431
lmao git gud shitter

>>376530431
Don't forget having dex being the stat needed to speed up casting time.

>>376530526
You tard its concerning the repetition of fucking swamps.

>>376529717
only if you're completely retarded

>>376530431
>>still doing piss poor damage with elemental infusions

Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with it from a logical point? You sacrifice weapon damage to be better in magic or gauge more in health or stamina.

>>376529536
you forgot the dreg heap swamp

>>376530261
truth, the game is fucking ugly and a chore. I don't care if it's fundamentally better than II, I call it the worst souls

only DeS, DaS, and BB are worth playing at all

>>376530632
We had pure elemental infusions in 1 and 2 i don't understand the reason to remove them in 3

>>376530616
Its like complaining about the repetition of solid land

You just want something to bitch about

>>376528947

THAT AIN'T FALCO

>>376530738
Fuck off shill, ds1 actually gave us different enviorements that were unique from eachother.

>>376530738
oh there's more than enough to complain about in these shit sequels

>>376530679
Eh, BB had the same problem of being the same color, but at least the setting was fresh.

>still no meaningful buffs to Lothric's Holy Sword

Every patch disappoints me

>>376528583
Where is this written, I can not find it?.

>>376530539
It's the best PVE of any souls game

>>376528850
You first, dipshit. No one says you have to commit to the game and keep playing it.

>>376530823
Yes they were unique, too bad everything past the second bell was pure garbage.
Unique doesn't mean good anon.

>>376530187
yeah i remember when i had to press l1, block every attack and wait for the counter attack

>>376529085
I died in the gutter so many times it was embarrassing

If it wasn't so short I would have a real hatred for it

>>376531078
lmao I bet you're serious too
I don't understand how you could fail to see how wrong you are unless you're some faggot that started with the sequels and has basically only played the sequels
They're shit if you didn't know

>>376531202
blocking was a waste of dps noob

true pros (such as myself) just mashed r1 in full havels then drank one of their 20 flasks after running out of stamina

>>376528459
Except that Poison still ticks for retartedly low damage with a much shorther duration, so it doesnt matter if you can poison them faster.

>>376530449
This

>14 months after release, Dark Souls 3 is finally fixed

Is this the new garbage meme argument? Only in the fevered minds of irrational shitposters was the game ever "broken".

>>376531352
and then you get backstabbed while drinking and eat a lloyds while you're getting up and then you're dead

Who plays this rehashed garbage anymore.

>>376527987
>they didn't touch my splitleaf
Ha ha ha
HA HA HA HA HA

>>376531479
No because I used the infinite health tech against cheaters who abused the backstab bug

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>>376530164
>b-but Dark Souls 2

Classic.

Welp. This is why Dark Souls 3's singleplayer is a shitheap folks. Nobody wants to look back on Dark Souls 2 and learn from it's mistakes, even if there are legitimate improvements to be made, and clearly not FROM either.

I think I realize now why the series is fucked. You people hate one game in the series so much that you can't move on, even if it fucks over the value of future games in the process.

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>>376531353
>tfw you actually miss DS2 for how much more viable poison builds were.

>>376527987
Where does this say it's the final patch?

>>376531178
>anor londo was garbage
>dukes archives was garbage
>tomb of giants was garbage


dude just kill yourself, one bad area (being lost izalith) does not equate to everything past the second bell being garbage, you're just a fucking memer if you honestly believe that.

>>376530007
>can trade with any fast weapon users for hal their health
>can outspace greatswords easily
>b-but I can't mash and get a free rollcatch
Maybe if you were an intelligent human being and times things correctly you wouldn't have this problem, halberds are top tier.

>>376531790
oh and the fucking painted world is also after the second bell, are you seriously going to tell me that it's garbage too you fucking faggot?

>>376531780
It isnt the final patch, OP is saying that with the current ammount of balance changes the game is finally "balanced".

>>376531324
I stand by him on this, DS3 has the best PvE in the series even overshadowing 1.

They should have nerfed the Crucifix of the Mad King. People just be spamming the hyper armor attack all day long and that shit is busted.

That and I thought Gael's Greatsword would have got a small hitbox nerf since the phantom range on that thing is dumb, but I guess the meme weapons are here for good.

>>376531820
you don't get to choose if you trade with fast weapons, they do.

you can't fix artificial difficulty

>>376527987
is poise in the game as it was in DS1?
are invaders still fucked into 4v1 meat grinders?

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>>376530164
>The game doesn't need a complete remake and waste of resources like dark souls 2 needed

>Decreased stamina consumption for Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords attack and increased attack power of Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords

LOL buffing an already OP weapon, it's this games Glavie

>>376531637
infinite health won't save you from getting forced off a cliff

>>376527987
Does it fix the absolutely abysmal framerates of the DLC?

>>376531953
No, you do. If they try to attack you ever, they're fucked. This isn't some UGS where if they attack into your attack they can roll free, if you start up an attack as they close, roll in, dash in, or do anything they can't attack. All they can do is hope to play so reactive you fuck up your timings and give them openings. Any agression is shut down by a halberd user.

>>376531915
if you honestly believe that you are fucking stupid no ifs ands or buts about it

>>376528467
It may not even be a buff. Afaik they are just bringing it back to how it was before nerfing the stamina and damage, just with reduced tracking.

>>376532085
Nope. They dont care about FPS issues. Upgrade your computer.

>>376532032
They decreased the tracking and range of it too, without that I say the damage increase is alright since people have to think when using it now.

>>376532032
it was fucking worthless after they nerfed it the last time, they're probably putting it back to what it was before but decreasing the amount you can swivel on the charge and 3rd attack

>>376532181
Good argument.

>>376532194
Doesn't really matter what they do to them. Good players will make the L1 spam useless, and without that, it's just an average UGS.

>>376532295
not an argument

>>376532295
Not that you had one to begin with.

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i kept saying dark souls 2 would be the majoras mask of the series

looks like the more time goes on the more i am right

if only it didn't have soul memory it would be perfect

>>376532295
who's gonna waste their time explaining the obvious to a Ds3 loving retard?

>>376532341
>>376532361
>don't even attempt to back up your claim
>get mad when someone attempts to point this out
Burden of proof boyo.

>>376532379
nah dawg
nah

>>376531078
HOW?

There is zero viable build variety. FTH and INT builds are garbage, most DEX weapons like whips and scythes are shit. STR is okay but still not great, later bosses will wreck your shit is you're using an ultra greatsword. You're basically stuck with a straight sword for the whole game.

Now throw that you're railroaded on a linear path for 90% of the game and you don't really have a reason to do a replay.

>>376532397
You aren't going to explain anything to anybody because you don't actually have anything to explain. You're just drinking in the hivemind, which is why you have such a hard time substantiating your arguments.
>claim
>dispute
>IT'S NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU

>>376532379
iron keep and earthen peak and black gulch haven't disappeared from history anon. DS2 is still the weakest souls game

It's not fixed until rolls cost x2 stamina.

>>376532453
You're the one who made the claim DaS3 had better PvE than DaS and provided nothing to back that up. Damn you are daft.

>>376532586
Ultragreats and slow weapons in general were always a subpar PvE and PvP solution. Pure caster builds are only slightly less broken than they used to be.

>>376532586
>You're basically stuck with a straight sword for the whole game.
lmao, DS3 haters everyone

>>376532586
For people that are earnest in saying ds3 has the best pve it's probably safe to assume that they co opped the entire game and since it's the only one they've been able to beat it's natural they'd think it's best

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>tfw you finally realize that FROM can only deliver good spiritual successors and every numbered souls game is shit

>>376532665
You made the first claim that it was irredeemable shit. Burden of proof is on the claimant not the reactionary.

Do invaders still have 30% less HP? And are pvp's still a estus-fest? Are estus still insanely fast? Those mechanics are the reason for the limited viable builds in PvP.

>>376532798
Nice projection.

>>376532798
DS3 is way harder than DS1 and even DS2 (if you stock up lifegems)

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>>376532379

>>376527987
Did they finally fix the problem where the longsword is the only weapon worth using?

>>376532873
honorabru duels (there's a duel mode) have no estus and only 1 ashen estus

>>376532847
I only came in when you said this >>376532295
stupid shit, knowing you only come into every thread to say Dark Souls 3 is better than everything without providing reasons why.

Bunch of gay fucks. Arguing just like those dumbass souls groups on Facebook.

>>376532586
>You're basically stuck with a straight sword for the whole game.
Really? because I beat the game with basically only the Uchigatana and then Friede's Scythe only ever summoned help for Friede and Nameless King

>>376532991
me and a bro just did a complete runthrough with just a Greatsword
git gud

>>376533029
duels are boring. The best part about invading is being an asshole to the other person and ruining their progress.

>>376533058
Summoning for Friede turns that fight into a joke ,it's a shame

>>376532632
>iron keep
nothing wrong
>earthen peak
nothing wrong
>black gulch
short, not to mention the statues stay smashed after sitting at bonfires.

>>376533048
So you jumped into the argumentto defend an unsubstantiated viewpoint. Not only that, you jumped into the argument to defend an unsubstantiated viewpoint without attempting to substantiate it.
/v/ really is full of children and highschoolers who just want to yell.

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>It's another samefag invasion episode

Anybody got the 'roll for build' image?

>>376533076
you can beat the game with anything, the game is not hard, people have beaten the game with a broken straight sword, it doesn't mean broken straightsword is a good weapon

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>>376532829
That's why DeS DaS and BB are the best games. These kinds of games don't work when they have to be part of an expanded lore. They work best as self contained worlds.

>>376531716
Dual spotted whip was fucking amazing in that game, with poison clouds and knives. I was hoping with the luck system in Dark Souls 3 something similar would be viable, but they let me down.

>>376533129
And yet solo is basically one of the hardest fights in the entire series, it's weird how it plays out

even summoning, people need to know what to do and where everyone is at all time though

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>>376527987
>tfw both my weaponfus are untouched

>>376533164
neither of the claims had any substance to it, but you were the first one to cry about it not being a good argument

>>376532586
I'm currently doing a ng+4 run with the splitleaf. I only had to change to my axe once for the Demon Prince fight, because that 1v2 on the first phase is really nasty if you have long recovery on your weapons. The only summons I've done were in past NGs to get NPC gear or emotes.

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>>376533223
outside of pvp if you can beat the game with it, how is it still not a good weapon?
the fuck?

>>376533332
The problem is she gets stunlocked very easily especially with more than one summon

>>376533093
cheat engine is almost as good at ruining people's progress as your chaos great scythe twink in ds1

>>376533352
But I had reason to because the claimant, who has the burden of proof, never made an argument. I mean I could have just called him a fag and get mad, but that kind of thing is why nobody likes /v/.

>>376532747
>Pure caster builds are only slightly less broken than they used to be.

But they're horribly underpowered. They need the Court Sorcerer's Staff, Dusk's crown, the Magic clutch ring, the sage ring, both the bellowing and slumbering rings with the candlestick in their offhand as well as a huge investment of 60 int and 40 ATN in order to get Crystal Soul Spear to do LESS damage than two swings of a straight sword. All the while needing to dedicate a good amount of your flasks to FP.

Pure Caster is legit hard mode in DaS3. It's not like DaS1 or 2 where they broke the game (though Faith is shit in all 3 titles.)

You can RAW infuse the Dragonslayer's Axe and outdamage any spell in the game without needing any more than 18 STR, 14 DEX and no investment in rings. It's insane how bad they fucked it.

>>376533130
>iron keep
fine, I like it too
>earthen peak
the puppet assassins guys have way more health than they have any right to for trash fodder mobs, at least they felt like it to me
>black gulch
the statues don't stay smashed, it's short but it's a chore to get through

>>376533332
i hate to be one of those fags but if you just backstab her to death and cheese her invisibility she's really easy

>>376533343
Dat profaned tho. Been swinging that thing since day one.

>>376533164
I jumped in because I know you'll just samefag his ass until the thread is over because someone dared to criticize your precious Dark Souls 3.

>>376529079
Wait, this is Ledos armor?

Fuck, I didn't make a screenshot. Some guy on the PS4 was running around in this. I thought it was the normal black knight armor, but it looked so strange.

I swear to god, I'm not even trolling or telling bullshit.

>>376533343
There's someone out there who still uses Gotthards?

>>376532632
I like Earthen Peak just fine, and Iron Keep is at least interesting/ well-designed in terms of layout and progression. I'm with you on Black Gulch for the most part, but even it has some cool stuff like the Giant cave and Grandahl.

>>376533556
NOICE projection, my dude. You really went all out with that statement of assumed intent.
I know DS1 purists aren't this bad, usually I can have a good discussion, but I don't think you actually "Get" the souls games at all and just like them because /v/ told you to.

Did the fix the issue where you have to play the game in a straight line due to a lack of world connectivity and do a retarded amount of warping back and forth just to level up and use merchants? What about the bug where you have to juggle fifty character questlines every single playthrough to not be locked out of half the gestures and items in the game

>>376527987
Did they fixed camping with 3+ people every invade?

>>376532379
soul memory is the ultimate anti-twink system.

>can't invade people at lvl 10 with fully uped pyromancy, spells, and +15 claymore like in ds1
>if you die twice in a row during your twink run and lose your souls, they count towards your SM thus heavily punishing twinking

Also, DS2 needed to implement a really good anti-twink system because you can invade anyone even if they are hollow which is why it had the best invasion system in the series and guaranteed invasions in every area.

>>376533760
yes, they added an arena mode for people not good enough to win invasions

>>376533506
Speedrunners still use caster builds. If the people dedicated to beating everything as fast as possible use it, it's probably the optimal PvE solution.

>>376533760
they will never do it, it fucking sucks getting a summon once every blue moon as a Darkmoon bevause of all the camping already in place cockblocking you from a slot to help

or invaders literally lasting less than 20 seconds for you to even get summoned

>>376533756
I don't really care if you're someone else or not. You've seen enough of these threads to know the kind of faggotry that ensues as soon as someone criticizes DaS3.

>>376533824
I have not been invaded ONCE in my entire first playthrough of DaS2 (bought it on release).
They only started on NG+

>>376533824
It's th ultimate anti-twink system, but unfortunately it's also the ultimate anti-pvp system because you can't remain in your bracket unless you waste a ring slot. Invasions died harder in DS2 than they did in DS3.

>>376528651
>It received a passable buff with Ringed City release to actually be usable.
ehhhh no.

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>increased attack for repeating crossbow

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>>376534020
>Invasions died harder in DS2 than they did in DS3

>>376533942
No I haven't, though. I'm just willing to defend it here, and the idea that I am willing to has had like three people jump down my fucking throat calling me a faggot. As far as I can tell, defending DS3 is a no-no here.

>1499 pesos for the deluxe edition

REEEEEEEEEEE

Why is it so expensive in Mexico?

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>>376533760
lol of course not. I gave up PvP in DaS3 long before the first DLC, so the game is worthless to me now seeing as how shitty and repetitive the PvE turned out. When I did try the odd invasion in the DLC's, it was either gank squads of max level cheating Chinese fucks with great weapons, or just regular shitter raid groups running through the content as fast as they could.
After the 50th time some asshole named Guts in full Artorias with Onikiri and Ubadachi points down while his two friends spin around your quickly-disappearing corpse, you start to lose interest.

>>376533506
>Pure Caster is legit hard mode because my long range nukes don't one shot anymore even though I have multiple flat damage boost options to make them two shot the strongest enemies if I so wish
Thinking you need 40 ATN and to make any real dent in your healing estus to have enough FP makes this even more hilarious, without even considering that there's healing spells. It's like you've condensed every random complaint from people mad they're not overpowered anymore into one post without even playing the game. Pro tip, enemies have different resistances to different damage types.

this patch didn't do much of anything.

>>376533343
>>376533704
I was killing it last night using them after not playing for about 6 months. 7 to 1 a guy in Brawl switching between these two. I always have them both equipped, they both weigh so little, I can't seem to replace them.

Is there some new hotness for twinswords or something?

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>>376534174
>he's so terrible that he gets mad at ganks when invaders can set up and be able to 2shot phantoms

>>376534125
I prefer Avelyn

>>376534131
I played DS2 heavily. I have been invaded a handful of times in the 300 or so hours. It's bad, especially compared to DS3 where usually I get an invasion every new area because invaders are willing to stomach the ganks. Hell, I even invade more in DS3 than I did in DS2 because I don't have to be afraid of getting boosted out of my cozy bracket and into the level 300 havelmonster bracket.

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>>376534305

>run str8 to host and his 3 friends as an invader
>die
>complain about it

LMAO get gud. I win 90% of my invasion in ring city. Use the environment, niggers.

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>get powerful boss soul
>can craft a unique fantastical weapon with it
>the weapon is weak as shit compared to regular stuff you can buy from merchants
>it's more difficult to upgrade
>it can't be buffed
>essentially the antithesis of what RPG elements should stand for
>but it's okay because it has one move that is slightly useful in PVP MUH ESPORTS BALANCE DUDE CHECK OUT MY YOUTUBE MONTAGE LMAO

>>376533824
Twinking is fun, and if DaS3 taught us anything, it's that most people that play these games deserve to have their day ruined. DaS did do invasions right, though: limiting the amount of times a host's phantom could heal until the invader was gone was genius.

>Increased attack power and decreased stamina consumption for Farron Greatsword

is being a spin2win retard viable now

>>376534120
Hello, Halberd user here. Poise is actually really good now. Obviously not as good as in DS1 where people just facetanked every attack, but good nonetheless.

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>when some reddit sperg invades you at the entrance of the ringed city but you use a seed and the stand user kills him

>>376534526
It's always been viable. After all of my hours I still can't beat the spin2win fags consistently, at least not if they have help.

>>376533760
They never will. The casuals won and invading of any kind is equatable to trying to assssinate a president.
Id rather deal with ds2 arena horshit that infinite gank squads that insta heal any chance they get.

>>376534483
>sperg out on boss weapons
>ds3 boss weapons are the strongest in the series
what

>>376527987

More like Rehash Souls am i right?

God I can't wait for Fromsoft's new game at E3

>>376534483
When has this ever actually happened?

>>376534652
Spam parry

>>376534652
I used it on my first playthrough when the game came out and had a lot of fun but it seemed like everyone who knew what they were doing could punish it easily, I don't know if it's fluctuated over the patches since then.

>>376534598
>when you do this on NG+4 and he melts in a single volley after he tried to bait you into the pit
He didn't know WHAT the fuck was going on.

>>376534303
>when invaders can set up and be able to 2shot phantoms
By that logic, phantoms can set up and be able to 2shot invaders, so your argument amounts to little more than calling DaS3's systems shit. Thanks for agreeing with me.
And let's not lose sight of the fact that it was the cancerous PvP in DaS3 that precipitated the offhand Caestus/ Hornet Ring meta in the first place.

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>>376534323
havelmonster bracket with stacking buffs was the true dark souls

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>>376530261
>LITERALLY EVERY AREA HAS THE EXACT SAME COLOR SCHEME
why u say things that arent true

>>376534652
"Oh, he's going to press L1?"
"Good thing I have a CAESTUS in my hand"

>>376534724
Again, the problem is when they have helpers which they ALWAYS FUCKIN DO. It's just about the ultimate gank weapon. In a 1v1 the spin 2 win is irritating but no moreso than twin greatsword L1 spammers.

>>376534323
As someone playing SOTFS right now im getting constant picks in Dragon Arie. Its amazing how scared some people get when confronted with an invader and have no safety blanket phantom to fall back on.

>>376534221
>without even considering that there's healing spells

For FTH builds. Pure Sorcery doesn't get any. Why wouldn't you want. Also you need 40 ATN for attunement slots more than anything. Since you cant spare a ring slot to open up more attunement slots, you need all you can get your hands on. 40 ATT only grants you 6 slots. Considering some spells take up 2 slots, that'll give you anywhere from 3-6 spells. to use in any given situation.

>>376527987
>still no unlimited respecs
until they add this it's still trash

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>>376533760

Poor Baby.

If you break into someones house and their family gangs up on you do you cry and demand a fair one on one fight? No, you fucking don't. At least I assume you don't, that would make you a shitty criminal.

If you think invasions should be fair and square maybe you should go do PvP in the official channels instead.

>>376534787
I was in ng+3 cause i wanted to do Midir+3 with a +0 weapon(don't ask) and this fag appears
he immediately realized he came in the wrong world

>>376534662
psst

get good

>>376532956
Nah it isn't but I know why'd you think that since EVERY SINGLE person I invade in ds1 nowadays has the black knight glaive even in the beginning areas and gee I wonder how all you Ds3 players just so conveniently happened to all wander right to that weapon as you started playing

guide reading faggots

>>376534910
I've parried it maybe one or twice. Both of these were months ago too. I don't run into many spinsword users but I still hate the weapon.

>>376534475
>use it to your advantage
My favourite /dsg/ meme from Dark Souls 3.

>>376534831
Except they never do because they're all geared up for pve and not for pvp
>muh hornet ring boxing glove
stop falling for parry spammers like holy shit

>>376534483
What is

Gael gs
Profaned gs
Gundyr Halberd
Memespin
Memejump
Best farming weapon(sage rapier)
Vordt Memehammer (literally 2 shots people)
Yohrm memeshield
All lothric and lorian swords
Demon Greataxe
Firelink GS

ds2 and 3 actually have useful boss weapon. Ds1 are mostly shit

>>376534939
Thanks but I'll just stick with previous 4 games.

>>376534976
>cuck boi sitting by the bonfire with is greatshield up, behind his three phantoms thinks hes good
yeah, ok kiddo

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I mean does anyone even care?
As far as i'm concerned Nioh is the real Dark Souls 3

>walking through the DLC areas
>invader shows up
>runs and hides behind some enemies
>game summons a darkmoon and blue sentinel right away
>he eventually kills them without my interference
>allow him to heal up
>kill him even while getting attacked by monsters
>sends me hatemail
Why are invaders such faggots?

>>376535007
Holy shit you're serious aren't you? You're acting like drakesword wielding, chainmail wearing, lightning buffing, guide reading, astora finding, master key using, bandit starting, greatshield cowering, newfags haven't infested DS1 since its inception and popularity.

>>376535102
>Demon Greataxe

settle down there, that weapon is trash.

>>376535071
I use one build for all pve and PvP. I've always wondered what it feels like to have to switch builds between pve and PvP. A faggot, in other words.

>>376535127
>>376535056
Get gud. Invasion isn't hard since most hosts are bad.

You're only mad because you bad.

>>376534662
Stick with area like Farron's Keep then. You will have a bunch of other invaders to team up with you to fight the host's gank squad.

>>376534475
Or I could just not play shitty games like Ds3 at all

>>376535225
Because when two blues get summoned I see red. I still haven't done hatemail for it though, I did ask one guy if he was using some newly discovered exploit for summoning two at a time because I had seen it all day.

>>376535102
All of those are outperformed in DPS by non-boss weapons. Especially with weapon buffs.

>>376535243
it's Literally the most cancerous weapom in 2 vs 2 / 3 vs 3

>get poise
>get heal miracle
>wolf rimg +3 and havel ring+3
>get vit and gundyr set
>stomp people with WA

>>376535071
>stop falling for parry spammers like holy shit
I never said that I did, holy shit. Just pointing out that anything an invader has access to, a phantom does, too.

>Except they never do because they're all geared up for pve and not for pvp
These people look up builds/ OP weapons before they ever start playing the game. Why do you think there were so many Dark Sword users at launch? It sure as fuck wasn't a coincidence.

>>376535203
>waah why can't I get a free win :(

hey

hey you

acquire skills

>>376535007
If you seriously have replayed DS1 and have not noticed how much easier everything is compared to DS3 you're really dense
I was going to say DS3 had easier early bosses but then I remembered Taurus Demon and what not are just as easy

>>376535370
>DPS
Yeah it's not like at higher NG levels all damage has to be frontloaded in 1 or 2 hits.

>>376534303
>set up
>get swarmed and stun locked (lol no poise in this game)while the host just infinitly rolls away and heals

>>376535370
In pve, they are(except Profaned gs pre-nerf. These weapon are good in pvp.

>>376535225
>get summoned by host in the swamp because trying to get easy sunlight medals for killing crystal sage
>on the way to the boss room when an invader comes in
>we had 3 people and we didn't want to deal with him so we kicked his shit in with no breathing room for him
>sends all of us hatemail

nigga i'm just here for medals

>>376535425
>wasting 2 ring slots

>>376535515
Literally get good. It's host + phantom vs you and the level. Invade at Dreg Heap and see how ez invasion are.

>>376535473
That's some bullshit. Only autists do glass cannon builds, everyone else fights bosses normally because it's more fun that way.

>>376535582
>wasting

When was the last time you pvp? It's all ultra greatsword poise stacking hyper armor now.

If I want some pvp I just put on Aldrich covenant.
I don't like normal invasions at all

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Is the DLC worth buying?
What's the cheapest place to get it?

>>376535539
Yeah, that was the point.

>>376535235
drake sword is not the bk glaive which is what, and I'm not joking about this, 95% of people at every level use now
chainmail wearing what the fuck are you even talking about is chainmail supposed to be anything but an average armor set?
astora finding? are you trying to tell me that the sword of astora is anything but straight garbage?
bandit starting? who gives a shit the bandit sucks
greatshield cowering? enjoy these toxic dungpies and lloyd's talismans you turtling faggot

Seems to me like you don't actually know much about ds1 and are just a faggot pretending like he does

>>376535657
>a connection error has occurred

>>376527987
nice I will wait for the goty edition with all the DLCs and buy it from g2a for 10 bucks

Profaned gs is the best ultra for PvP. I can't make this shit up.

>>376532379
too bad DaS2 has the worst enemy placements in the entire series

>>376535702
No no, not glass cannons, if you are on NG+4 and try a glass cannon build you are just going to die. You HAVE to use hard hitting weapons that can deal like 1000 damage in two hits because that's all the opening you get before the bosses can launch into their next attack and take off 70% of your health with a trade. I just beat gael, if I had used anything but a 599 AR halberd I would have taken eons to beat him.

>>376535829
That means you win and host is risking a soft ban.

>>376535760
>is the dlc worth buying
holy fuck yes
>what's the cheapest place to get it
don't be a faggot and just buy it it's not that much

>>376535871
Gael is easier once you realize he has DS1 poise

>>376535731
maybe in 3v3 where people can't see you

ugs will never hit someone who pays attention

If I use cheat engine to duplicate an item, will that get me banned?

>>376535838
SoTFS or original?

>>376535556
>>376535225
>invade pontiff area
>another invader already there
>host + 1 phantom
>rushes in, gets bodied one on one against phantom
>sends me hatemail for not helping him out

>>376535808
>people using dungpies in pvp
Bait of the church

>>376535760
Ashes of Andariel is DS2 tier, but still good.
Ringed City is way better even though it has some dose of bullshit.

>>376535920
He gets more poise at higher NGs. He took 5-6 hits to stagger this time, you couldn't count on it to save you at all. Midir is another example where you needed to frontload damage on nis head to get anywhere.

>>376534921
>For FTH builds
You said caster. That implies spells of any kind. If you want to limit yourself that's on you, but even the chime has a weapon art that heals you for very little FP and needs next to no FTH to use, which is perfect for Sorcery focused characters. Even assuming that isn't usable somehow, it doesn't matter anyway since even at 24 ATN you have a ridiculous amount of FP and every flask heals it to full, so you only need 3-5 at the very most and you'll never be in danger of running out, unless you're terrible at managing your spell usage.

6 slots standard isn't necessary either, 24 ATN gives you 4 and only a small handful cost 2 slots, which are generally not cost effective for their damage anyway but still gives you plenty room to play with. There's also rings to add more slots. Despite that though I would still personally prefer there to be more slots because more spells at once would simply be more fun, but it is not necessary by any means, 24 ATN with ring potential is more than enough.

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>>376535262
My first series of invades was when I got my first 5 red eye orbs in settlement. All 5 times were 3-4 overleveled people. I had much more fun dealing with 2cat, giantdads, turtles, smelterhavels and plain cheaters.

>>376535891
>That means you win
No, it means they've wasted my time.

>host is risking a soft ban
Literally nothing. They use the Way of White Circlet and are on their way.

>>376535463
blind playthrough of ds1 is much harder than blind playthrough of ds3 there is no debate

"hurr yeah well like if you play ds1 again after playing it already and another game then it's probably easier than when you first played it" no shit retard

>>376535934
The fuck are you on? There a ways to hit someone with an ultra. You're not supposed to just walk up to them and press r1.

>>376535934
Paired UGS does but it's getting nerfed soon.

But poise is more useful on Halberd and curved sword.

Poise stacked Splitleaf memers are fucking cancer.

>>376535657
Thats assuming they havent already cleared out all the enemys and arent just waiting at your spawn point to BS+stunlock you.

>>376535989
SoTFS

I've had to use a bow more in SoTFS than I did in all my DaS1 and DaS3 playthroughs

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>>376530431
>Magic is actually hard mode in Das3
I'm still angry, even if I play it as a challenge its just no fun, there is allways the nagging feeling that just going any other build is better

>>376535808
You can't even farm the glaive.
Also
>bandit sucks
Motherfucker there is no reason to use any other starting class for physical builds, are you that new? The point economy is WAY in your favor.

>>376536110
It appears harder because it was your first (or maybe second) experience with that type of game
Anyone who has played DS3 first will find DS1 to be a joke in terms of difficulty

>>376536108
Only if you're only invading for covenant item.
I'm invading to make the host mad.

>>376536103
I started anew character for AoA, and the first person I invaded while at level 10 had the Storm Curved Sword, Lorian's sword and was wearing Sirris' set.

>>376535995
Sounds really shitty of a guy, the only good hatemailers are the ones that understand the circumstance and you become best bros with them afterwards

Happened so much in Dark Souls 1,
now it doesn't even exists

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>>376536103
Why is everyone in DaS2 such a fucking damage sponge?

I swear in PvP, until I made an overpowered build, I did pathetic damage against other players.

>>376536125
>memers
But I figured put my build all by myself, I've been wanting to use a halberd for a while. I even minmaxed my own fashion souls.

>>376536269
Not worth it if they make you mad in the process, imo.

>>376536114
>>376536125
before you finish swinging an ugs they've already ran a circle around you, backstabbed you, pointed down and threw 2 poops

>>376536220
>go int and have nagging feeling faith is better
>go faith and have nagging feeling int is better
>go physical with either dex or str and have a nagging feeling magic is better

I know they all have their strengths and weaknesses and one isn't better than the other, but damn my undecisive mind.

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>decreased strength and dexterity for sunlight straight sword
This shit right after I start using it.

>>376536309
Because thanks to soul memory havelshitters could also have 99 stats.

>>376535871
>if you are on NG+4 and try a glass cannon build you are just going to die
Not unless you're really inconsistent. If you didn't learn bosses in 5+ playthroughs, I don't know what to say.

Besides, Midir and Gael are basically the only two bosses where taking long because of a large HP pool and few opportuinities to safely attack is even remotely an issue.

>>376536016
are you fucking kidding me? they cause toxic in 1 or 2 throws and that shit lasts for 10 minutes. If you're not using dung pies in ds1 pvp it's because you're a dumb shitter without a clue ie. you

>>376536406
>try to backstab paired ultra greatsword
>memespin catches you and combo you to death

>>376536504
I sure do love dying in one hit rather than two. Glass cannon builds are shit, balanced heavy damage builds are where you get all the good hits in.

I'm running ring of favor+2, life+3, Havel+2 and prisoner's chain with 50str, 40dex 43end.

Am I doing it right?

>RKPG getting nerfed
feels good man

>>376527987
>darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Patches
FARRON GS BUFF! SPIN TO WIN BABY!

>>376536525
Oh wow you've just poisoned the other guy while also poisoning yourself
what a fucking deal

>>376536236
>can get the glaive in 5 minutes from start
>can't be farmed through resets
yeah ok buddy

>bandit class gives you a 2 or 3 stat point advantage
woah what a killer strat, this totally trivializes the game right? give me a fucking break retard

>>376536613
You should try loving not being a shitter who only makes it through bossfights by chugging like a champ.

>>376536650
Jesus christ what level are you
Are you that one guy I occasionally invade that has 700 embered health and dies in one combo?

>>376536418
Str or dex is WAY better then being a caster and having to spec in Attunment and Endurance and vig and ofcourse int of faith (in some cases both)
Just using the great axe and getting 50 str out damages magic so hard and you can be so much tankier
Magic is truelly hard mode

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>>376536664
>nerfed
they do even more damage and take less stamina now

>>376536650
Get favor 3 in TRC

>>376532379
never associate Majora's Mask with that piece of shit ever again please.

>>376536692
lol ok pal then don't use them I don't fucking care that you elect to be bad

>>376536309
Because you use anime pics

>>376536406
Unlocking is a hell of a thing

>>376536789
I can use a dragonslayer axe and lightning blade buff and get so much more dps, It just depends on the situation always.

>>376536693
If they are resetting to get glaive they probably aren't casual first time players, they are probably actually just trying to speedrun.
>>376536748
Yeah sorry, sometimes bosses land attacks who knew. Are you going to really sit here and try to pretend you play dark souls flawlessly and that's why you don't NEED health?

>>376536406
That's why you have a roll, a kick, unlocked swings, variable timings and 5 other slots to use things that compliment it. Just roll with a crossbow in the other hand or something, for all the people that want to roleplay Guts they don't use the options that would give them more combat versatility.

>>376536772
130

45 vigor
43 end
21 vit
50 str
50 dex
9 int
9 faith
7 luck
1905 hp

That's definitely not me.

>>376536406
>ds3
>backstabs connecting
>not being walked right out of
I think all you faggots are playing a different version of the game

>>376536406
>be bad
>blame it on the weapon


Ugs are for trading with hyper armor.

>>376536693
>3 extra levels in stats you want at the start of the game
It does trivialise the starting curve a little, yeah.

>>376536309
Arena is hot garbage and instead of taking level and soul memory into account, it pairs you with anyone of equal or higher level meaning you can be level 125 and face max level hex spam havel jesters to level 50 drangleic set noobs.

>>376536965
>>376536904
none of these things cancel your long-ass recovery
>>376537024
what if I choose not to trade, and instead just hit you for free?

>>376536893
Dangit Ron Paul is vidya.

>>376536960
well ds1 heal is different from the sequel heals in the fact that you its so slow you'll get killed if you try to do it willy nilly whereas in the sequels you can chug 2 or 3 times and there's not a goddamn thing anybody can do about it even if you're in their face

>>376536984
40dex*

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>increased attack for the repeating crossbow
Perfect for my low level dickwraith

>>376537065
Not even just in the arena.

I dunno what it is, but everyone in DaS2 PvP is really spongy, back then I thought it was because the defense values were much higher.

>>376537076
Then you should use Dark Sword like a shitter that you are. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>376536789
>maximum damage is the only thing that matters
Are all wannabe mages this shortsighted?

>>376533909
using spook and only spook and playing the game as a melee does not count as being a caster, and that's exactly what speedrunners do


why would a speedrunner build to be a caster when so many of the bosses are resistant to magic and fire?

>>376536965
yeah, a sub weapon to use for ripostes only is just about the only thing ultra weapons are good at

but is it really worth the weight?

>>376537190
while not the best, dark sword is indeed much better than any ultra weapon

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>>376535702
Call them autists all you want, but it is possible.
The lengths some people go through just to invade at low levels, god damn.

>>376537076
If you're hitting your opponent with the weapon, recovery doesn't matter. Every good player takes recovery time into account before they press any buttons.

>>376537136
It's not nearly as different as you seem to think it is. In DS1 you could always get a chug or two off in a bosses recovery frames, but your problem is you aren't understanding that at the level I play at the bosses are doing 70% of my health in one hit while I am stacking 42% physical damage reduction. I have to time every heal carefully and damn near every attack calls for two estus.

>UGS is the best gankspank
>shitters complain about UGS being bad
>shitters complain about getting gank in invasion

Really makes me think

>nerf a bunch of dumb bullshit bugs people abuse like the warbanner and dagger
>nerf the move set of the paired greatswords but buff their damage
>slight buff for astora straight sword and slight nerf for sunlight straight sword
That's literally it. This patch practically has nothing at all, vast majority of changes are to shit nobody cares about or small bug fixes. Fuck this faggot OP for making me actually check the notes by tricking me into thinking it was actually going to be a serious patch.

>>376537413
i am talking purely about honorable 1v1 duerus

>>376537586
Then become a splitleaf memers and win every duel

I'm level 120 and want to collect Sun medals for the achievement. Will I get Sunbros at bosses or are they only on lower levels?

>>376537586
UGS is great 1v1 though...

>>376537207
Melee is also easier to use/hit and you have need less levels in order to make a melee build work wich means more levels in health and stamina or vitality to get better armour
Range is a meme if aiming is actually pretty hard (the lock on aint great either) and most enemies have gap closers
Also melee characters can ignore blue estus
Melee is just better because it way more effective and easier and requires less levels to make it work

>>376536960
No one plays flawlessly but not getting hit in 8-9 out of 10 fights is pretty normal by the time you reach 5+ playthroughs. And glass cannon builds actually make this much easier since you shit on the boss so hard and so quickly it can only throw out a 1-3 attacks before it's staggered or gets locked into mandatory and predictable animations. And the fact that you couldn't do that is a telltale sign of a shitter.

Just seems like a basic patch
Bunch of balancing and bug fixes

What is the big fix that "finally fixes" the game now after 14 months?

>>376537443
i dunno m8 the buff to ledos is pretty sick

>>376537669
>120

Try souls of cinder or friede. Or just invade as a sunbro in the dreg heap. The angel will do 70% of the work for you.

>>376537669
You will get summoned at any bossfight. Still, people are concentrated at the DLC bosses so there will be fastest although you will get people who think it's a smart ideal to summon 4 people for gael or midir and wonder why they aren't taking much damage.

>>376537076
Rolling, kicks and an offhand crossbow do have less recovery actually.
>>376537231
How do you riposte with a crossbow? Also no, ultra weapons still have generally the most damage per hit, poise ability, poise damage and range as well as being unparriable when two handed and even working as ghetto shields themselves if you're hard up for one. They're just not a one-size-fits-all, like many weapons aren't but are still very effective.

>>376537386
you're using an ultra weapon. you aren't hitting anyone, they run into your sword

...or they don't, and beat you easily.

>>376537656
it's pretty good. kinda bad up close but the damage is crazy

>>376537695
vs u

>>376537410
>you aren't understanding that at the level I play at
ayy lmao I'd stomp your fucking ass in an invasion and I'd probably be half your level or less

>>376537728
I'm sure you definitely play like this and are a professional speedrunner, the only speedrunner in dark souls to use pure physical glass cannon builds.
Get the fuck out of here man.

>Projected heal nerfed
Oh well, guess I'll just use great heal after using the divine spear fragment as a spear of the church. Hosts can heal, why can't I?
>inb4 you have true poise
Spears only get poise if the host summons one more phantoms.

>>376536067
>There's also rings to add more slots

Which you cant use because you NEED Slumbering, Bellowing, Sage's and Magic Clutch. You don't have the luxury of choosing your ring slots on a caster.You need the 3 that up your damage and the one that shortens spell casting time, without that you have to invest in DEX to cast faster. If you swapped out one of the damage rings then it'll take 3 Crystal Soul Spears to kill a single Lothric Knight. 138FP to kill ONE enemy unless you use ALL available magic buffering rings, head gear, staves and the candlestick, where it'll take two casts (92 FP) to kill one. At 40ATN, you'll get around 300FP, so you'll kill 3.5 enemies with your strongest attack spell before needing to chug an Ashen.

It is so much easier, cost effective and less of a hassle to just pick up a RAW weapon and kill something dead in 3 quick slashes with very little stat and ring investment.

>>376538043
you get slaves who heal you

>>376538043
Because you are the boss fight.

>>376537913
I don't think you understand anything about this conversation and are just posturing now.
I'm currently playing ng+4 locked at 120. I just beat Ringed City bosses. I had to stack 40 physical defense just to survive a single hit, and I'm using an idealized build. I'm not bragging about my level of skill, I'm talking about the level of difficulty I have chosen to subject myself to.

>>376537837
I'd love to watch how you fight with an ugs. Making people run into your attacks is a viable strategy. It's called anticipation.

>>376527987
>buffing le twin anime greatsword cancer

>>376538123
Raw weapons are better than Int scaling ones?

>>376538152
Sometimes their shitty AI has an autistic breakdown and they just decide to never heal you

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What's the most fun place to invade people?
I like invading outside the 'High Lord Wolnir' bonfire (with the breakable bridge)

>>376538270
They are nerfing the tracking which is the only thing this weapon is good for. It's trash now since the start up time is so bad and you can't track people.

But i didn't expect a buzword sprewing retard to be literate anyways.

>>376538043
>actually using projected heal to cheese being the spear
I've only lost twice, once to a gank and once to a hacking gank. Please, get good and stop embarassing us.

>>376538001
I already told you I don't play like that most of the time but I did try it on a few runs and it works really well and it's really easy to pull off. No one said anything about speedrunning or physical damage only. It doesn't take a speedrunner to learn those few attacks bosses have after having fought them several times, it just takes someone who's not completely garbage at video games, or just basic cognitive abilities at that.

>>376536406
>lock on
>ugs
git gud, shitter.

>>376538346
yes, because they're buffable

>>376527987

I am glad I still have not bought it. I will get the goty edition on bf or something.

>>376538461
Earthen Peak Ruijn Literally free win. I win 100% of my invadion here.

>>376538594
Yes, and those basic attacks can still be chained together in ways that can catch you off guard or out of an imperfect roll. If you had said that you can dodge 9 out of 10 hits fine, yeah, so can I, but here you are pretending like you flawless the vast majority of your bossfights with your melee glass cannon. This is a fabrication.

>>376527987
It's not fixed until they fix the shitty input queue when rolling. Those times when you roll twice when you meant to just roll once are fucking annoying.

>>376537714
Magic is not harder to hit with at all, it's lock on and launch same with melee, which is always inherently in more danger due to having to having no choice but to fight up close, compared to magic which can get at least one big shot in before the enemy will respond and doesn't have to worry about distance when punishing or countering. Gap closers aren't a problem since it's just a matter of seeing the very obvious attack and dodging, if the enemy survives long enough to be able to do it. Having to potentially dodge an attack for once doesn't make it bad. Melee in general needs more of that health, stamina and vitality to use it's equipment depending on build, and that they can ignore FP and that mages need a significant amount is the real meme. Magic is very easy, you just have to not fall apart if an enemy gets close to you, you have a lot of close range options yourself in either spells or weapons.

>>376538234
i only use good weapons in duels so you'll never see me with a ugs

>>376538838
I never have this problem. Clean your controller.