Final Fantasy XIV STORMBLOOD

>release a new PC benchmark
>looks exactly the same as the game right now

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>>376527061
Don't expect a huge graphical update for at least a couple of years.

WAAAAAH WHERE'S MY 60 SECOND COOLDOWNS

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>>376526920
>he plays Japanese WoW

>>376526920
>implying it won't just be a 120 second cooldown that is on the GCD
Don't think that Yoshi would give anything actually good to PLDs, do you?

>>376526530
>It wouldnt even make up for WHM's personal DPS over AST

AST and WHM already have the same personal DPS when you compare them to real fights, the "WHM does more dps" meme only applies to literal training dummies where the WHM goes oom after 3 minutes.

>AST has a higher skill ceiling than WHM and should be rewarded for it by providing more group damage.
Skill has nothing to do with anything. If the devs took skill into consideration, then they'd nerf WARs personal DPS because they are rewarded for doing exceptional tank DPS for a rotation more braindead than a lvl 30 dragoon.

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>>376527521
If he doesn't then we will get another 2 years of PLD mains bitching about their job being below the other two tanks.

So how is launch going to look like in stormblood?

We don't have to grind hunts for AF this time around, and we're getting a new deep dungeon.
Hopefully whatever the 70 dungeon gear is, it's the same ilvl as AF, or at least very close, so we can mix both for better stats.

>>376527761
I'm just glad the the new AF3 gear is tied to job quest again.

>>376527761
You'll probably have to do hunts to upgrade the af in order to dye it.

Hunts are so shit, why can't they just get rid of them?

>>376527979
>why don't they remove this social feature from a social game?

Anyone know how to fix the controller becoming unresponsive periodically on windows PC? This shitty bug still has no fix.

SE closes every thread in the official forum for no good reason:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/109625-Controller-becoming-unresponsive-periodically/
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/315406-Suddenly-my-controller-has-random-unresponsive-moments
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/317383-Controller-becoming-unresponsive-periodically
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/314735-Xbox-One-Controller-keeps-disconnecting?p=3993464
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/319297-Xbox-One-Controller-keeps-disconnecting-%28still%29
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/317383-Controller-becoming-unresponsive-periodically
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/321369-Controller-becoming-unresponsive-periodically-2017.
Why is this allowed?

>>376528143
>social

Do you consider FATEs to be social too just because you're within 10 feet of other people zerging a boss down who are probably watching netflix?

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>>376527543
Not him, but as an AST/WHM main, part of the problem with both WHM's and AST's designs is that they're both exceptionally trashy in their own unique way.

A healer whose niche is doing healing really well in a game that needs to prioritize DPS over raw healing means that such a healer will forever be garbage-tier. WHM's design problem is that it relies on an otherwise useless niche that hasn't been useful since the early 2.x series. A lot of people like to spit on AST for making WHM useless, but all AST did was highlight the flaws in that type of job design.

Same thing with AST. Take away the buffed Balance, and AST becomes a junk class and is resigned to diet WHM-tier that's only useful in post-progression scenarios. AST's major problems is that there are big parts of the job that are severely janky and useless (Nocturnal Sect and Time Dilation, Spear, Spire, etc.), which are offset by hilariously broken aspects (Balance and MP regen.)

If you take away those benefits, AST's poorly designed toolkit becomes glaringly obvious and people don't take it just like in the 3.0-3.4 days. You talk about Midas was the most balance we saw between them, and while I definitely agree with that, AST was still a shitty diet WHM because its cards were trash and it didn't have the necessary healing capabilities in A8S to match what WHM could do.

tl;dr: SCH is a broken monster, WHM needs a new niche, and AST needs the useless parts of its toolkit massively reworked. Nerfing AST isn't the solution.

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>drk gets a better cover
>war gets a AOE party berkserk that buffs everyone in WAR's party's damage by 60% on a 4 second cool down
>pld gets a link spin slash on a 7 minute cool down

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>376528279
Replace your batteries.

>>376528279
Maybe you should play with kb+m if you're playing on the PC.

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>>376528442
>>war gets a AOE party berkserk that buffs everyone in WAR's party's damage by 60% on a 4 second cool down
What?

>>376528545
It's wired.
>>376528572
No.

>>376528638
Replace your batteries.

>>376528638
Replace your cord.

>>376528638
It still has battery in there, replace it.

>>376528638
Replace your controller.

>>376528717
>>376528760
It doesn't matter. It's related to windows devices and buggy ffxiv client.

>>376528609
just joking anon
mostly making fun of people in these threads who speculate too much and just assume things without any confirm.

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>>376528717
>>376528760
>>376528817
>>376528862
(You)

>>376528407
A good start would be to just nuke AST and start over, give it a design that doesn't parallel WHM(they have basically the same spells for gods sake)They can keep the card gimmick but it needs to be toned down and AST needs to heal differently than WHM, not the same but worse/better. A resto druid design would have fit perfectly with AST's time gimmick.

>>376527521
>implying they won't just give it to pld so they don't have to fuck around with flash potency every few years

they will 100% do it just to avoid this

>>376529024
Even if they were to do that, it wouldn't solve the problem that plagued healer balance for most of this expansion. People don't like risking security and reliability (SCH/WHM) on the off chance they can get slightly more DPS for way less stability (SCH/AST).

AST's design was poor, but there are several reasons for that in terms of game design. Seeing as the dev team seems utterly incapable of designing healers, it feels like they wanted to originally make AST a WHM replacement entirely but realized halfway through that if they did that then SCH would be mandatory for 2 years while they worked on another SCH replacement (which is what happened anyway).

WHM needs to be less about a fuckload of raw healing and more about utility in that sense, using their healing to provide utility.
SCH needs to be toned down all around in some instances, because its toolkit is too vast to ever be replaced at this point, no matter what amount of strong-ass shields AST gets.
AST should probably have Balance toned down, but it needs to have the rest of its cards buffed up as a result. Spear is utterly useless, Ewer/Spire are situational RR fodder, Bole is nice but forgettable, and Arrow can hurt some jobs more than it helps. It's a mess.

>>376529024
>they have basically the same spells for gods sake
yeah this is pretty much the entire game though. it's basically all the same skills in the same roles. really this game just should have "the tank" the dps" "the healer" but obviously that would never fly. but at it's core, the game is really designed that way. it's that strict

>>376529438
At least they managed to make DRK and PLD play differently despite giving them essentially the same skills. They each have their enmity, dps and debuff combo. the difference is PLD has their debuff combo baked into their enmity combo, or you can settle for the enmity from savage and use your dps combo where as DRK is forced to only use their enmity combo if required, otherwise their debuff combo and dps combo are linked and you must choose one of the two. In reality, they each have the same skills but at least they still play and function differently.

>>376528279
The way I fixed this for myself is switching to wireless, which sounds like something that you wouldn't want to do, but it works and I haven't had an issue since.

>>376528892
Works on my Windows 10 desktop

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whats the point of the WAR unchained opener when a PLD can pull with both tanks in dps stance and without a tank swap if theres a ninja? Is it just for DRKs?

>>376527195
>SE
>spending anything beyond what it takes to push out recycled content cycles now that the game is established
Don't expect a graphical update ever, if we're being honest with ourselves.

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>>376528940
>just assume things without any confirm
but that is the fun part of speculations

>>376530153
WAR's opener generates the most threat, meaning the actual MT that picks it up afterward never has to do another hate combo and can just dps the whole time

>>376530980
yeah sure but pld doesnt have to use halone either with a ninja since they have savage blade, and the war can just open in deliverance. only sounds viable for a drk mt really

I hope Nero doesn't go back to being an antagonist.

Who here hyped for SAM?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc

>>376531615
>expecting the guy who betrays people constantly to not betray you again

i mean come on now

>>376531706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRS5Ko50lxo

>>376530153
There is no reason not to do it. Warriors lose one fell cleave.
If you have a DRK MT, it is a major gain since they never have to powerslash.
If you have a PLD, they can pretty much just afk

>>376528407
Wtf is wrong with time dilation?

>>376528279
>uses a fucking controller for an MMO

>>376531809
>There is no reason not to do it.
i just explained there was if you roll with a pld.
even if you unchained, you still lose the 5% dmg buff of deliverance.

>>376531706
I'll be online the very minute it launches crafting all the primal weapons from ifrit to bismark for RDM and SAM

>>376531929
>KB+M fag still mad that the game was designed for it and controller fags can perform on the same level

Just give up

>>376532102
>controller fags can perform on the same level
[citation needed]

>>376531742
Constantly? Nah that would be Laurentius

Fuck that guy

>>376531172
Think bigger, my dude. The more aggro you have as a PLD, the more damage your WAR can do.

>>376531742
When did he betray you? During the CT plotline he clearly announced what his intentions actually were from the start (and he ended up protecting the clone siblings from CoD instead) and there wasn't any betrayal that I could see in his Omega plan.

>>376531706
i've been watching old ass kurosawa movies

it's sort of fucked up he ripped off a fistful of dollars tho

>>376531970
Two combos losing 5% is nothing.

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>>376531706
I can't say I am. The footage so far has really lacked a lot of oomph, even the LB3 is unimpressive. Maybe the numbers will bring excitement once SB is live, and they'll have roughly followed the FFXI way of having the job do shitloads of damage compared to others when the right conditions are met. The AF3 is bland as fuck unfortunately. If they had at least let me do some bullshit like pic related, I could hold off my starvation for interesting mechanics with an erection for a little while.

I'm not really feeling RDM either, but part of that is just that the way I view it from previous games isn't possible in this one without huge revamps of combat and jobs. One thing I'm curious about though, is if that collar-pop move we've seen means there are going to be job-specific emotes. Not important, but amusing.

>>376532203
That doesn't make any sense. You don't give your aggro to the MT, you become 1 step under him when he provokes so if anything doing any bb combos afterwards will just push you closer to them vs them relying on the NINs agro while you do your deliverance opener and generate even less threat for more bb use.

>>376532724
Not an argument, all it takes is one smokescreen from a NINJA for A war to be free to use butcher's block.

>>376530153
Warrior can put on slashing, get the largest threat lead in the game and can heal themselves for a TON of damage while in unchained all at the cost of one fell cleave, two at most.

When the DRK uses taunt this means the DRK doesn't need to use his aggro stance or combo as.often which us a huge DPS gain

PLD gets cucked as usual.

>>376532189
Laurentius is either going to get completely fucked up considering that literally everyone would consider him an enemy at this point or he is going to become comic relief who shows up a few times throughout some questline.

>>376532173
>who is blackcat
>inb4 blm is easy meme

It sure as he'll wasn't in 3.0 and 3.2 where he's still one of the top and exclusively plays on controller

>>376533142
>who is some faggot no one cares about

>>376533281

That's (you)

>>376528279
I don't play anymore but I know this was fixed for me by disabling something in device manager, "Microsoft Root Enumerator" or something similar. It's an update checker if I recall that shuts down usb controllers while it checks.

>doing Navel for book
>4 people immediately die to landslide in phase 2
I love it

I'm gonna start leveling up a tank. WAR is the surefire tank for SB right?

>>376533428
>>376533428
>>376533428
>>376533428

>>376532571
>collar-pop move
I think that is part of either the battle stance or the victory pose emotes.

>>376532983
how is it not an argument? thats how provoke works. the unchained pull only gives the mt a threat lead over the DPS, not the WAR and if the WAR wants to do bb then they're gonna risk taking hate if the MT vokes off them after the unchained pull.

>>376533559
WAR is babies first tank without training wheels.

>>376533819
>DRK/PLD provokes
>Ninja smokescreens WAR
???????????????????
Literally what part of this is hard for you to understand. You're making WAR players look more retarded than they already are.

>>376533819
The good WAR will use Storm's Eye combo instead of BB after tankswapping since it's a very small personal DPS loss for a few moments, while a bigger overall gain for everyone.

>>376532724
>doing bb combo after swap
Retard alert.

>>376526920
>literally just looks like glory slash
>>376527195
>literally can't even tell what the fuck is going on
>>376527732
>literally gets to go super saiyan

Fucking WARs being spoiled again and again. Faggot job for faggot people.

>>376528407
Both SCH and WAR need to be deleted along with everyone who mains them.

>get into dungeon with SCH as my co-healer
>they literally don't use a single heal the entire run
>meanwhile I'm keeping everyone up while stance dancing to DPS and throwing out AoE balances nearly back to back

>get into dungeon on PLD or DRK
>have WAR co-tank
>they never want to tank anything, not even pick up adds or trash

FAGGOT jobs for FAGGOT players who need to be purged.

>>376534261
WAR is one of the ONLY jobs with consistent, coherent design. You can tell where most of the love goes. Their rotation runs smooth, their animations are beautiful, and their abilities compliment each other.
Its like Yoshi used all his tank creativity on WAR and then half assed the other two.

>>376527521
PLD is supposed to be babby's first tank, of course it's going to be simple, boring and only encourage respecting the content. If you want to disrespect the content there are two other jobs you can play.

>>376534515
>dungeon
>co-anything
Unless it was a MS dungeon in which case it doesn't matter at all

>>376534515
>get into dungeon on PLD or DRK
>have WAR co-tank
ITT things that never happened or don't matter at all

>>376534515
>dungeon
>co-tank

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>>376534515
>get into dungeon on PLD or DRK
>have WAR co-tank

>>376534698
>>376534758
I'm pretty sure he meant raid.

>>376534628
PLD is supposed to be babby's first time but hilariously enough WAR is the true babby's first tank. Funny how that works. WAR (and SCH) isn't well designed. It's just made to be broken and given constant babying and stupid preferential treatment. The other tanks (and healers) are designed perfectly fine, the devs just intentionally make WAR (and SCH) better because they're FUCKING FAGGOTS catering to even bigger FUCKING FAGGOTS.

>>376534615
WAR is for faggots.

>>376534675
>>376534698
Raids are dungeons too.

>>376528279
>Anyone know how to fix the controller becoming unresponsive periodically on windows PC?

You stop being retarded and use a mouse and keyboard.

>>376534871
You sound really mad. PLD and DRK can still clear everything with relative ease.
Though I do think all the jobs should be brought up to SCH/WAR levels. I think that would be more fun than nerfs.

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>>376534871
>Raids are dungeons too
Say that to mai waifu Khloe and not offline and see what happens.

>>376534871
>Raids are dungeons too.
No, John. You are the FAGGOTS.

>>376535189
>>376535192
Raiding is more of an action than a location. You RAID a dungeon. They're still fucking dungeons. God MMO terminology is fucking stupid.

>>376535118
I hate everyone who plays WAR and SCH as anything more than an alt job. They all need to be purged from existence along with the faggot jobs themselves. That or they need to be made by far the most shit jobs in the game to the point that you'd have to be a fool to even touch them. They attract the biggest most obnoxious faggots who want to skirt as much responsibility as possible.

>>376534035
>pld pulls with nin in sword oath
>war never gets close to taking hate by being in deliverance and getting smokescreen

Literally what part of this is hard for you to understand.

>>376535354
Your butthurt is delicious.
t. WAR main

>>376535373
>PLD
stopped reading

>>376535686
I really hope you're not the same guy I've been replying to because that's some massive goalpost movement if you are.

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>>376535354
Too bad nerd, "Raid" is a specific kind of instanced location in XIV. It's not a "Dungeon", it's not a "Guildhest", it's a "Raid", with it's own tab in Duty Finder (also called "Raid") and everything else.
Now stop getting mad and accept that you said something stupid, and go get get more points to shuffle the shit out of our Lord and Savior's Bible already.

Just got done with the main story, is there anything fun to do while waiting for the expansion?

>>376536238
>>>376535887
Diadem and ERP

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WAR deserves to be powerful because the crybabies never got over how useless they were before 2.1 changes

>"i-i can tank bcob just fine!"
>pops foresight

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>>376535354
Now Anon, show us on the Khloe minion where the bad WAR touched you.

>>376534261
>>376534871
Rectally ravaged Palababby. Fucking making me laugh since 2013.

Ok so MCH is getting a 3rd AoE for some reason. What are the odds that they merged the old ones? This kinda feels like recycling functions but with new animations...

>>376528407
>AST was still a shitty diet WHM because its cards were trash and it didn't have the necessary healing capabilities in A8S to match what WHM could do.
well done
AST fags btfo
Now everyone should start playing WHM because they are superiorly better.

>>376536731
flamethrower extends wf

>>376536731
>3rd aoe

citation needed. yeah thats right, you dont have one now FUCK off invalid. for all we know its an off gcd cd that spreads your wildfire like bane spreads dots

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>>376534871
>WAR (and SCH) isn't well designed

Are you merely pretending to be retarded or is there something we should know when interacting with you?

>>376536887

Good point anon. However, I dont trust YoshiP

I'm actually pretty content with the Paladin changes thus far. Between Mini Holy, CoS, and the SKRAAA it seems like Paladin's AoE troubles (its main issue) has actually been addressed, which is nice.

WAR continuing to get buffed kind of baffles me though, they have almost every single possible tanking tool at this point.

>>376526920
Source?

>>376534871
>WAR (and SCH) isn't well designed.
No, they're actually incredibly well designed. They have very fun, versatile toolkits that are fun to use, have abilities that synergize with one another and can solve a lot of problems that this game is capable of presenting.

It's that every other tanking and healing class is boring, bland and basic. And no slapping an entire toolkit unrelated to healing on AST doesn't make it good. It makes it fucking stupid.

>>376537139
All tanks are getting buffs

What the fuck is the issue here?

>>376536928
>crippling fairy response time
>well designed

i eagerly await your deflection

>>376537215
>one flaw
>the class is utter shite, and so is this other unrelated class as well because I'm extra mad

So you're retarded.

>>376533517
>Doing leviathan for WT in PF
>Half the group gets thrown off the edge in one slam

It will never stop being funny to me.

>>376528329

There was a huge hunt community on my server, until some other retard took over and made the entire community toxic. But there still is/was a gathering of folks who became friends just from hunts. Don't be a big meanie dude.

>>376526920
Where are you getting thisninfo?

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>>376537315
Like clockwork.

>the class is utter shite, and so is this other unrelated class as well because I'm extra mad
Who are you quoting?

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Should I pick up B4B before SB? Just leveling NIN as my first melee DPS.

>>376534871
pic related

>>376537209
I dunno, it just feels weird that a class that already sits head and shoulders above its counterparts would continue to get even more buffs. It would be like WHM getting a buff to MP refresh while buffing the Balance and fairy healing output, it doesn't really do much to even up WHM with the other two.

>>376534871
Tell me PLD, where did the WAR touch you?

>>376537436
>fucker makes 2 (two) identical "hunt" linkshells
>leave because he has an obnoxious chat macro for literally everything and spams his facebook group of all things
>other linkshells are fading away
I want this retard dead

>>376537574
No, CC system as it is now is going away

>>376537792

I hope we're talking about the same guy who ruined the "oldest" community.. The same fatfuck who never shows up to any A Ranks, but as soon as an S Rank pops up he's spamming to join the LS.

Also I'll never join that facebook group, I try as much as I can to keep my personal info private from some of those sperglords.

>>376538134
Probably not, it's on Mateus and he shows up to most hunts if he's on
I have no idea how multiple people could have had the idea to make a facebook group though

>>376537497
your brain

>>376529414
I think the biggest problem with AST was that during development, they clearly had a goal with it in functionality and design but as they approached the deadline of HW release, they realized it was an unfinished mess so they just quickly overhauled shit to literally mimic WHM and SCH in stances but be vastly inferior to either, thinking the flexibility would make up for it.

But then they prevented sect changing in combat and any chance of actual flexibility was killed instantly. MP sustain, heals, CD's were all inferior through and through that all you literally had worth anything was cards, which on launch and for MONTHS were inferior to even Selene's reliable 3% haste.

Then they improved the heals and massively boosted the MP sustain to the point that Diurnal AST were performing nearly on par with WHM but they still had inferior CD's but their cards somewhat started to make up for it as DPS mattered more than healing, until A8S came about and undergeared ASTs still couldn't really keep up without sacrificing too much from the co-healer vs. what a WHM would offer.

SE's solution? Buff AST even more that they just become outright superior to WHM as WHM issues were never brought to light since everyone was crying about AST, ignoring that WHM had the same fucking issues they always had and HW made no improvements to them, at all (in fact they made MP sustain even worse despite Assize).

When people bitched about AST all throughout 3.0 to 3.3, SE should've taken a fucking clue and completely rework it much like WAR was, instead of pussyfooting it and only making it blatantly obvious how incompetent they are while SCH roamed free being OP as fuck for another full 2 years.

>>376538695
nice

>>376537574
While >>376537807
is true, at the same time we're still six weeks away from release. You can get LNC to 34 in just a few days, I'd say you might as well. On the other hand though, if you're not going to be hitting primals/raids between now and then and are just working your way through ARR+HW story at an easy pace, you're not really-really going to suffer from not having it.

>tfw don't have to share left side gear with anyone

feels good being drg come 4.0

>>376538718
The fundamental problem of AST is that at the end of the day it's just a WHM with a non-healing toolkit taking up a third of its skills.There's basically little to none unique healing mechanics to it. So you have two WHMs, except one is better and it's not WHM, and it also gives everyone trick attacks. 3.4 buffs felt like desperation.

The class basically needs to be rebuilt from the ground up but is that gonna happen? Nope just slap two more cards.

>expansion launches 10am in the morning
What a perfect day it's going to be.

Anyone have a recruitment code? I'm about to add a time card to my account.

>>376539104
neither will nin, probably mnk and sam as well

>>376539236
MNK and SAM share gear.

>>376539234
2SDRYUCW

>>376539410
no, sam shares current gear with mnk, like nin sharing pre 2.4 gear with mnk. nothing confirms they share SB gear

>>376527061
Seems better in terms of optimization, but then that kinda goes in the shitter when you swap to new races.

Using the male default as a base, I got 15,641 score. But when I swapped to Lalafell, got 16,014. When I swapped to anything else, it was barely 15k on any of them. Also changing hairstyles also changed the score too.

>>376539502
Used it, thank you.

>>376539525
Other than fanfest? Unless you're taking that as an implication it's only current gear and not all time.

>>376539592
your guess is just as good as mine, really

>>376528329
Some of the neckbeards are so lonely that even a distracted avatar will suffice in terms of human contact.

>>376526920
This is an old XIV move called Circle Slash. PLD used to have it in 1.0 but it was removed.

They also had it in XI and it hit like a truck before it was nerfed.

>>376533142
Is there some random eCeleb required to know before playing

>>376539885
There are no ecelebs worth knowing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyYVkCeruwk
thought?

>>376539789
It's going to hit like a truck even if it's GCD (but not enough for single target rotation of course).
It's paladin's only source of aoe damage outside the absolutely terrible circle of scorn, and possibly the miniholy (which might just be a shield based counterattack).

>>376540087
Stop shilling your shitty videos, Ethys.

>>376539525
>>376539592
>>376539692

Fanfest was a thing, but if we're going by anything, look at XI. SAM used STR gear.

Then again you didn't take SAM into anything unless you were just looking to shit on something you've already cleared in the past. There was no demand for SAM on XI back in the day.

Unless SAM gets some solid utility or something worth bringing them for, it'll be HW all over again regarding DPS.

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>>376539580
Enjoy it and have fun.

>>376539885
I think the anon posted that name as a "source" of a controller user that is just as good as a KB+M user.
It is a tricky question, it's not like you can easily prove this sort of thing.

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Why does DRK have the best rotation out of all the tanks?

>>376540231
>look at XI. SAM used STR gear
You're just telling everyone you didn't play FFXI at all if you think it was that simple.

>>376539571
Sounds normal. You're never supposed to get the same numerical score when you run the benchmark multiple times. Computers do different tasks in the background all the time (windows update or defender scan, steam notifications, chrome tabs updating, etc) which uses up CPU cycles, so it affects your score.

>>376540309
>there's no aggro anywhere in the most damaging rotation unlike the other two tanks
It's garbagio

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Has anyone ever had the problem where you type in your username and password and even if it's 100% correct it still won't log you in?

Feels like I'm locked out of my account. I sent in a support ticket to see if they can help me out but I'm just curious as to whether or not others have had the same problem.
And yes I've tried resetting my password a bunch of times but no luck.

>>376540309
>1-2-3 with ogcd whack a mole
>best

>>376540338
I did, but I'm just putting it in simple terms for the 99% of people who didn't play.

I just hope Store TP is still a thing. I also expect genuine cringe.

>>376540514
yep

>>376539185
3.4 buffs WERE desperation. Hell the initial changes showed just how pathetic they were in admitting they fucked up and were wrong, the second batch showed signs of desperation already as AST suddenly got better MP management than WHM despite needing it LESS than WHM and then the true act of desperation came with 3.4 (which hilariously still took time for people to realize that AST/SCH was now outright superior to WHM/SCH just because of how shit AST was for over a year).

And you are right, they aren't going to overhaul anything with SB, I would be surprised if they actually change anything at all with the healing classes but I bet all they'll do is a HW repeat of giving WHM something new and flashy which changes literally nothing for them (and still makes them shit at DPS while not having any fights where their absurd healing can be fully utilized), mimic the same thing for AST because they are new and then give SCH something gimmicky which may be seen as useless because their kit is still broken as shit and we'll have two more years of SCH is mandatory for everything while AST and WHM shitfling each other because SE balance is handled by monkeys.

>>376540402
Yeah, it's normal, but I'm talking about eliminating every possible background process and just keeping it offline entirely.

I did just that. Win7 running on basic, required programs in the background with everything else turned off and offline so my results could stay, for the most part, consistent. Using default male as a base I got consistent results. Using a Lalafell got me higher results than any other race. Cats gave me the worst results, laughably.

>>376540696
ah ok. How'd you fix it? Contacted support?

Will Stormblood actually improve the gameplay or is it going to be the same weekly tomestone, 1 primal, 1 raid every patch?

>>376540558
And with this logic, I hope SAM isn't the RNGfest like it was back in XI.

>>376540728
Do you think they'll honestly admit anything they did was wrong post-ARR?

>>376540830
I get locked out and then it works afterwards

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>>376540309
>little to no Power Slash use because Yoshi is a hack
>best
DRK rotation is shit, DRK finishers are shit, DRK is shit! SHIT!
Power Slash buff when? Fuck Fuck Soul Eater and definitively FUCK Delirium, shit looks like wet noddles hitting a pillow.

>>376540728
their notion of "balance" is just simply, homogenizing. there's no room for like "well this class sucks at x but is strong in y" within roles because the content is designed to be beaten with any and every setup of classes.

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>>376534515
this so much.
i cant begin to count the number of times in raid where when whm goes down sch are just stuck like a deer in headlights with no idea how to heal and the raid wipes immediately as a result.

sch are not healers and sure as fuck have no idea how to heal in this game, all they know is their shity pathetic dor rotation. might as well go raid with 7 dps and no sch. they should be kicked from all statics.

>>376540832
How was it different between ARR and HW?

>>376540951
>Do you think they'll honestly admit anything they did was wrong post-ARR?
They admitted Diadem was a mistake.
It's just that... well, yeah.

>>376540987
Doesn't that new DRK ability seem at least remotely appealing?

:^)

>>376541040
But anon, it might make some people sad or frustrated if they had to swap to SMN instead of BLM to optimize a fight. :(

>>376540951
DRG 4th proc is as rng as it gets for melee

I hope SAM gets cast time though.

>>376541186
I doubt SAM will get cast time, going purely by XI logic. SAM are quoted as being able to store power in their blade. Either it's Store TP 2.0, or something is up.

Why would a melee get a cast time anyway?

>>376541114
ACTUAL mistakes, anon.

Do y'all just whine about your casual """""midcore"""" PUG world all day?

>>376540951
They half-assed admitted that SCH was too strong, but instead of tuning it down they at one point said they rather buff healers to be on par with SCH than nerf anything. Then there was the big scare during one of the fanfests where they talked about healer tuning for SB and thousands of SCH's started crying everywhere fearing to get nerfed. Like really, reddit, OF and even threads on /v/ had a bunch of salty SCH's crying about being nerfed even though nothing's been confirmed or shown whatsoever.

And SCH had the same absurd overreaction on fairy scaling change and Lustrate being changed from %-based to potency based. So odds are SCH isn't getting any weaker in any shape or form.

>>376540972
that's odd because for me it's not working at all.

>>376541419
Diadem was an actual mistake. A pretty big one! Also it's not particularly Japanese to come out and say "Hey we messed up an entire class in this spanking new expansion, please understand". The whole 1.0 epiphany was totally out of the norm (though I guess it didn't teach them jack shit looking at XV and handling of XIV).

>>376540231
unless something really wild happens it's going to be WAR/other tank/SCH/other healer/DRG/NIN/MCH/ranged dps until the end of time

>>376541419
Store the energy will be the same shit as monk gl3 where you get charge every 3rd combo, and you spend it on skills instead of it passively buffing you.

>>376541419
The iaijutsu ability we saw definitely looks like it has a cast time.

>>376541518
>Lustrate being changed from %-based to potency based.
That was a buff though. It can now crit and synergizes with Conval.

>>376541768
Conval doesn't buff heals from oGCD.

>>376541768
>synergizes with Conval.
Lustrate doesn't synergize with any +healing buff because it's an ability rather than a spell. But yes it was a buff in general because it now healed non-tanks for significantly more and as you said, can crit.

But people were crying for the longest time they couldn't burst heal tanks as effectively anymore because they were retarded. Like majority of vocal SCH players legit are.

>>376540558
Doesn't that make WAR more boring with that logic?

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>>376541154
Fuck not-Cover and fuck whatever the fuck Yoshi's lala was doing in that stupid picture.
I want Power Slash to have fucking POWER, especially with Dark Arts. I will fucking drop this shit and main another tank (or one of the new jobs if they aren't shit) if I don't see something good in the next live letter.

>>376541419
xiv isn't xi and it's dumb to think of it that way

>>376541060
It wasn't. That's my concern.

>>376541943
>couldn't burst heal tanks as effectively anymore
Emergency tictacs?
Man I dunno.

>>376541518
Cleric Stance is the culprit if you ask me, but I know what you are saying though. I have no issue outhealing a SCH as WHM.

>>376541616
And this is why I'm hoping for more combat changes, overhauls, tinkers, and more things because you just eliminated so many jobs out of the roster.

>>376541646
Here's hoping SAM is more interesting than MNK. SAM in XI were generating tons of TP almost as fast as they were burning it. It's why Store TP was so valuable and you saw them running around with Store TP equipment.

>>376541652
I'm willing to say it was probably for effect but we'll see.

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>>376542020
Yoshi is playing master race though. Might as well start leveling WAR because I genuinely think Yoshi hates DRK.

>>376542167
The Cleric Stance complaint was dumb anyway. WHM has had to toggle it for all of ARR and HW, forcing SCH to actually think for an additional split second on how to use a free heal in HW was not a nerf to SCH, just a hit to braindead retards lack of skill.

>>376542042
Anon, it's genuinely hard for me to think of XIV as not XI in some way. I played that shit for so long and to see so many things from XI go into XIV, well...yeah.

>>376542049
Of course, and it's terrifying. "We've done this before." Six expansions later. Want to know something anon? The, "we've done this before" logic hits really hard in XI if you want to talk about story. Same shit, different day.

>>376542367
CS complaint was a cheap shot at best but I admit I am interested to see what they plan to do to change it since Yoshi posted it was up on the chopping block along with Esuna.

>>376531859
Time Dilation in conjunction with Nocturnal Sect is a mess because extending shields doesn't do shit. This is supposed to be offset by the 10% healing bonus you get with Nocturnal but it still feels weird to use.

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>>376541652
>SAM gets iaijutsu stance on level 62
>it's basically wanderer's minuet - melee edition

>>376542480
how can Esuna be on the chopping block?
disclaimer: i haven't played this game in a while

>>376542480
What chopping block?

They are both going to cross role skill pool.

Use some logic.

>>376542480
You're a fucking idiot. Yoshi said flat out at Fanfest that he will not remove Cleric Stance. You're adding in your own words to that blogpost.
>>376542563
It's not. Yoshi made a blog post to the effect of "Cleric Stance is [REDACTED], and Esuna [REDACTED]!" Anon is a fucking moron who thinks this can't mean anything except that they're being removed.

>>376542518
Synastry is also trash in noct stance.

>>376542558
If it works like Gauss Barrel it'd be fine though.

>>376540231
fanfest just said "SAM and MNK will share gear" which is really vague(something Yoshi is good at being) and could mean many things. It's like saying "MNK and NIN share gear" which is true if you consider 2.0-2.3 ARR gear.

>>376541616
I think we can all agree that the support cucks are getting toned down to where you'll only take one. The MCH buffs to HC that made it go from 5% to 10% and twice as long were stupid and something you'd expect from a shitty post on /v/ about buffing a job.

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>>376534998
(You)

>>376542558
>plays a samurai noise every time you use a skill, then instantly slices at the end of the cast

>>376542480
>Chopping Block
Nah, what they are doing is removing Cleric Stance, Esuna, Leeches and Exalted Detriment from individual class abilities and instead unifying them as something all 3 healers have shared.

>>376542858
Great Katana in XI sounded really cool. The *whiff!* and *clink!* sounds were nice. I don't want SAM to be too flashy.

>>376542167
>Cleric Stance is the culprit if you ask me
Stop watching netflix

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>>376540728
>>376538718
I think that in some sense the 3.4 buffs were justified because people were (rightfully) complaining about AST since its inception and the dev team was probably tired of hearing about it, coupled with the fact that the AST community was getting ripped on left and right PLD-style because the class was so unbearably pathetic and useless that after awhile it just became a meme.

There were some nice changes to come out of 3.4, like the change to Enhanced Benefic II and the Redraw changes, but they should have reworked the card mechanic completely rather than just making Balance super OP while solidifying every other card as trash.

Another problem with healer design is as you said; SE really needs to suck it up and realize that you WILL have to nerf shit if you want to properly balance jobs; you can't just vomit half-assed buffs on every job crying that it isn't meta because it ruins everything eventually.

SCH and WAR need a nerf to their toolkits. AST needs a nerf to Balance in exchange for buffs to every other card.

Is SE going to do that? No, because that would mean pissing off a large sect of the community and the salt would be ever-flowing for ages. But this "shhh pretend that everything is fine and balanced and only buff stuff" mentality is fucking stupid. All it does is cause massive power creep and the inability to address core issues.

I hope they remove storms eye from WAR in SB.

It's too much responsibility for them.

Today I learned that there's a Russian guy on eBay that sells NA mogstation stuff at RU prices. Just got 2 fantasias for $12 and that playdead emote for $4

>>376543286
Nerfing AST Balace card basically makes them useless to the raiding community. People use Balance to pad at best and it's the only reason people bring AST.

i'm remembering how in 1.0 protect and stoneskin had like 5 minute timers (so you had to pay attention and recast them throughout the fight instead of just upon res) and stoneskin strength was tied to your stats

all this talk about healers being samey...in this game it feels like they're just shitty dps that heal on the side rather than being a real role.

>>376542049
They've already confirmed the usual tome shit, number of dungeons remains to be seen. Smart money is that until proven otherwise, assume they're going to do another 1:1 content match like they did with ARR and HW(HW introducing one less dungeon per patch than ARR aside).

>>376543428
Why else do you think people like DPSing on them so much? It's because if you don't, the job is fucking boring and easy.

>>376542819
it's baffling because foe's is only going to hit effectively 2 people at max and hypercharge will hit at least 5

also i'm not sure how they're going to fix nin either since it's basically mandatory to have one

>>376543286
AST doesn't need a nerf or a buff, it needs a COMPLETE REDESIGN. Abilities need to work differently and have different properties. Card buffs preferably need to go or to be tied to healing. It's insane that a third of AST's kit has nothing to do with its primary role and mucking about with its healing kit isn't gonna solve this problem.

>>376543561
the job is boring even when you do DPS though.
you think spamming 2 skills while watching a dot tick down is fun?

>>376532102
>controller fags can perform on the same level

HAHAHAHAHAHA

HOW ARE THOSE MACROS TREATING Y-

OH WAIT


AHAHAHAHA

Anyone on Faerie want to be friends/need help with anything?

>>376543286
The cards isn't the issue with AST at its foundation. It's just become a clever misleading focus because of how absurd Balance is now but AST needs to not be "just a WHM with better DPS potential for groups".

They need to give AST a proper self-identity while giving them a competitive purpose that does NOT infringe of what WHM and SCH does, but they can't because they are stuck in some absurd mindset of "can do no wrong" and just feel content with AST solely compete with WHM while SCH has no competition. It's a similar situation for tanks with WAR being nigh mandatory but it's honestly not as blatant and absurd as it is among the healers as PLD and DRK play differently enough.

>>376543321
Hopefully it becomes a role skill.

>>376543662
>he thinks you can't set macros
Confirmed for a retard

>>376543684
wan sum fuq?????/

>>376543321
>eye too hard to keep up
What.

>>376543648
its not so much about the buttons you press but learning how to maximize dps uptime in actual savage content that makes healing fun. but yes, spamming holy/gravity in expert roulette is not fun either

>>376543634
if only bard had more songs since it IS a bard. they should have their own physical varient of foe requiem, afterall machinist gets both but bard doesnt for some reason?

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>>376543636
People have been asking for that since it was launched, and I think people need to realize: it isn't happening.

There is no way that SE is EVER going to rework and redesign AST, even if they ask for it for the rest of time. Yoshi P doesn't see AST as the problem child of the three healers; he's stated before that he thinks SCH is because it's too easy for SCH to get a raid spot because they're simply too powerful (alongside WAR).

Obviously AST needs a rework, but people need to move on. I was disappointed with Astrologian's design too but parroting "REDESIGN" every time the class gets brought up is just wishful thinking because it's just flat out never going to happen.

What they need to do is fix the card mechanic and give it healing spells that differentiate it at this point. If they focus more on the cards and time-related abilities with the new spells coming out in 4.0, AST will definitely be able to differentiate itself.

I really hope that Provoke becomes a skill that all tanks learn.

>>376527061
They made it a point to tell people during fanfest that nothing would really be changing in terms of graphical fidelity for Stormblood.

>>376543704
> PLD and DRK play differently enough.
They really don't. WoW's six tanks all play differently enough. XIV dev team thinks that the only way to balance things is to make them nearly exact same.

>>376531929
Even worse
>MMO was made for console
Enjoy all the fucking limitations.

>>376543950
i don't get that mentality. if i wanted to maximize dps i would have been playing dps. if i'm the healer i'd want to be doing tasks related to buffing, healing and protecting the party. it's like saying digging a hole with a plastic spoon is "fun" when you could have just gotten a real shovel instead. so no, "maximizing" my shitty, gimped dps toolset because i have nothing better to do during a fight is not fun to me.

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I hope the new "just add souls" weapon for WHM is Mjollnir + some holy shield. WHM is better when it gets to beat things to death with a mystical hammer of the gods.

>>376543751
Not what im saying at all my retarded dude

Tell me, how many macros can you accommodate before you run out of space completely?

>>376544174
Healers have plenty of tools for significant dps, and no reason not to use them to contribute to the party.

>>376544174
>i don't get that mentality
because you choose not to adhere to the game mechanics. thats just the way things are now. if you want healing to be more buff based, you'll have to find a different mmo.

>>376544001
> If they focus more on the cards and time-related abilities with the new spells coming out in 4.0, AST will definitely be able to differentiate itself.
It can't differentiate itself with its buff kit. It simply can't because that's not AST's role. AST's role is healing. They need to tie two together. It's like if they tried to give AST an identity by giving it a different DPS kit. Makes no sense.

Maybe keeping a regen up gives you a resource proc that you can spend by activating specific card abilities that have different costs, and balance would be the costlier one and there would be a healing+ one so you'd have to choose at least on some level. This way their card kit and their healing kit would be one rather than two distinct parts.

>>376544361
of course i adhere to the mechanics i just think they're pretty shitty and i'm here to complain about them. like everyone else in this thread.

Why does dev hate stoneskin so much?

>a10s farm in PF
>4 dps and none of them are a caster

>>376544512
Whats wrong with it?

>>376544512
they do not like innovation

WHOS READY FOR TWO MORE YEARS OF DRG/NIN/MCH/BRD/WAR/SCH

>>376544116
Dropping PS3 support was the best thing they did. Hopefully less loading zones.

>>376544174
Healers have to be able to dps to do solo content like fates and levequests. The only way to enforce concentrated healing is to restrict the usage of cleric stance in instanced duties, similar to PvP.
It's plausible, but people wouldn't be happy about it.

>>376544521
Just kill him before adds.

Melee can do prey too.

>>376544656
Good thing I play MCH and SCH
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>376544662
>The only way to enforce concentrated healing is to restrict the usage of cleric stance in instanced duties, similar to PvP.
Or to make damage more consistent so that healers are required to heal, but hey that'd make the game too hard. Damage patters are a huge part of why healers can get away with so much in this game, damage comes in predictable spikes that you power through then there's tank tickling for days until the next spike.

>>376544656
>BRD

No.

>>376544662
in a game where you can play every class on a single character I don't see why they should make it a necessity for healers to solo content like that.

but yes, yes, i know that would involve having to do things in a group and party together with other people to accomplish something and that's antithetical to the design principles of the game.

>>376544683
He clearly refers to passing preys in steamroller/saws phase.

>>376544656
>tfw MCH
looks like I dodged a bullet

>>376527195
This might be the worst official screenshot I've ever seen.

>>376544249
32 slots per hot bar, 8 hot bars, 256 slots total, macro limit in the game is what, 100 slots shared across all characters and another 100 per character so 200 total per character so room for every single macro and then some, not that you would need all that space since hotbar layouts switch automatically and I'm not going to have salted earth on target next to shadow flare on target anyway
It's like you're a complete retard that thinks buttons only exist in your mouse or that there's some sort of difference between pressing R1 or Shift

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>>376544656
>tfw main NIN/SCH/WAR
Excited for all the new abilities for the above except for maybe SCH. Not sure what a fairy tether would do, but I hope it auto follows the target or there's no damn point.

>>376544656
>they do not like innovation

Why should they bother innovating? It's pretty clear that the vast majority of the games subscriber base are perfectly fine with recycled content.

I can't tank savage consistently. People are way too tense in that content, it's not an environment that's fun anyway. I think that's it for me. Do me a favour though, go easy on the next tank bro you get in a raid.

>>376527061
Pretty sure the only difference between HW and SB graphically is sleeve physics and the weeb city being one zone with no dividers.

>>376544853
What else would you bring? BLM or SMN? LOL Hopefully RDM gets a useful debuff to bring along.

>>376545013
XIV's community is toxic as fuck.

>>376545013
git gud, creator is easy

>>376544981
Look at XI. "We've done this before" logic several times over.

The Scion story is turning into that. Hopefully it gets dumped in SB.

>>376544872
>muh anti group mentality
>when healers are always watching netflix and not communicating in groups unless it's to complain

>>376544926
Wow sounds shit, so what, you have like 5 buttons you have to cycle out over and over?


AHAHAHAHAHA

>>376544872
Forcing players to commune and work together for inane tasks that could be played solo is a very, very poor design choice. If a player can do something by themselves, they most likely will. See: undersized dungeons.

>>376545054
This is why I want the whole, "bring the player, not the class" mentality to come into XIV. I want to join a group as a SAM, or as a BLM, and be able to do content with everyone else.

Unsure why this horrible meta had to be a thing.

>>376545043
>sleeve physics

Pre-baked too.

>I can't tank savage consistently
Sounds like its time for you to learn to play your preferred job at an acceptable level.

>People are way too tense in that content
Are you really surprised people get upset when their MT/OT cant preform their duties?

>>376545060
>XIV's NA community is toxic as fuck
Fixed.

>>376545174
>Unsure why this horrible meta had to be a thing.
They tried to enforce the party unity feeling by giving buffs that classes give to each other but they forgot to actually make sure there's multiple workable combinations. All while pursuing safe space where nobody feels left out because they picked the wrong class. Makes no sense but that's SE for you.

>>376545043
>weeb city being one zone with no dividers.

Oh those poor idiots on toasters and PS4.

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>>376545141
>w-well how many ability slots do you have, bet you can't fill all the macros you need
>gets btfo
>o-oh yeah, well r-reeeeeeeeeee-eee-e
You went full retard

>>376545103
>>when healers are always watching netflix
more like, people who would rather watch netflix just to be done with fucking roulette already just roll a healer because of the reasons i already said

>>376545170
you're not "forced" to do leves or fates. that's all optional content. everything in the open world could be described as "inane," technically

>>376545287
>>376545013

>>376545013
If you're going in with pugs this late into the expansion then of course savage raiding is going to be a complete shit show. Stay persistent and eventually you will end up with a good group to clear a fight. Just try to make friends so you can run through content with good company.

>>376544001
Maybe make it the after-the-fact healer, playing it up as predicting the future with the cards? Like, a line of heals that sit as buffs on the target, and then when they take damage the largest one that won't overheal pops and recovers HP. Change one of the useless cards to give your next pre-heal the ability to preemptively cure the damage to prevent death, if it would have put the target at 0(but it has to cure enough to mitigate all the lethal damage). Give them Reraise. Alter another card to give X seconds of immunity to auto-attacks.

>>376545293
>XIV's NA raid community is toxic as fuck
Fixed.

>>376545293
How are those saluts doing EUfag

>>376545354
>just to be done with fucking roulette already
Then they should be dpsing

>>376545353
>no rebuttal

Can you smelt a pot with all that iron?

>>376544683
>killing before adds
>expecting melee to even know how prey works

you realize this is PF right

>>376545386
(You)

>>376545426
i already said
>would rather watch netflix

if you want to be carried, you roll a healer because their role is pretty worthless except in actual raids. that was my entire point.

>>376545472
Prove me wrong then.

Is this expansion going to actually be good, or is it going to be fun for like a month and shit the rest of the time like Heavensward?

>>376545386
Except my whole FC is european except me

>>376545174
>meta
Meta means absolutely nothing outside of the first week or two of progression. If your group is properly geared, any comp will work. Hell, if your team is good enough, any comp can prog on first week. Some of JP's firsts had monks and no MCH.
tl;dr stop listening to people on the internet.

>>376545469
I expect the one that's willing to take 4 melees to do so,yeah.

>>376545539
Depends on how long of a vacation they decide to take this time.

>>376545069
I can't even handle the add in a10s. Provoke him, power slash, bam healer got the aggro, add turned, wipe.

>>376545060
>>376545293
I'm EU. Anyway. the funny thing is they will flame the tanks for every single detail while dps get away with slacking all the time.

>>376545287
Learn how? No bonus, no bonus, no bonus. But whatever, I openly admit I can't do it consistently and dropping the whole things so you telling me I suck really has no meaning.

>>376545548
NA players are mobashitters, so it's impossible for them to see things that way.

>>376545548
>tl;dr stop listening to people on the internet.

Way ahead of you. I really want to play SAM in a raid setting.

>>376545494
Any healer who doesn't cast every single GCD gets put up for a votekick reason AFK as soon as 5 minutes pass by me.

In 90% of cases shitters refuse to kick an obvious lazy cunt being carried

>>376545304
there is more than one workable combination tho, like for the most part the game is not tuned to the point where you actually need the most optimal comp

there's nothing strictly enforcing it besides people mimicing strats that only really apply to a mall percent of a small percent of players

>>376545643
>I can't even handle the add in a10s. Provoke him, power slash, bam healer got the aggro, add turned, wipe.
Forgetting to pre-equip Grit, aren't we?

>>376545657
You seem like the worst type of person to be around. Real life or otherwise.

>>376545354
The problem isn't whether or not you're being forced to do fates or leves, the problem is being forced to group up with others to do something that others could do themselves.

>>376545757
>cuntbag dares to watch his cuck porn while I'm busting my balls to get a fast clear
>ur a meanie
Fuck off.

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>>376545434
>tries le no argument after he doesn't make one
>b-but pot to kettle, I did it first see

>>376545548
my static is running without a drg and im playing mch and i really couldnt care less. it will just be fun to clear the content.

>>376545756
Shouldn't even need a grit unless healer healbomb for no reason

>the same one autistic shitter cuck keeps falseflagging and talking about those Mean Raiders that Stick to Meta and want Healer to DPS posts in every thread
Guys it's time to stop having this general.

>>376544483
It absolutely makes sense. You aren't listening. What you are proposing and asking for is something that people have been asking for the past two years. It isn't happening. SE takes suggestions like those and throws them into the dumpster because they simply aren't feasible.

If they had any intent to rework AST, they would have either had to:
1. Realize that they fucked up with its original design upon release and called it back in so they could finish working on it up until they felt it was ready and different enough so that it felt like a solid alternative, or
2. Announce major changes for the job at the start of 4.0, because they make it very clear they are against doing major job changes and rework at any point during the middle of an expansion and instead favor doing it at the start of one. In this case, they would have announced stuff by now, but they haven't. All we know about healer stuff is that Cleric and Esuna are probably going to be cross-role abilities.

SCH does the exact same thing you're talking about. Yes, it does separate itself slightly more so with its fairy in terms of its healing capabilities, but what really sells SCH is its absurd toolkit.

What breaks SCH is its toolkit. What makes WHM useless is its useless toolkit. What makes AST so desirable is its toolkit.

All the healers distinguish themselves in that way. Tanks do the same thing. It's the only feasible way AST is going to stand out. They aren't redesigning it. Period.

>>376545657
don't blame them, blame the game for enabling it by making "healing" a do-nothing job.

>>376545858
:^) I heal and almost never DPS as a healer. We still clear the dungeon and that's fine.

>tfw a friend you were playing HW with now refuses to do any sort of 8 or 24 man content that is not story required

>>376545387
Yeah nah m8

>>376545870
>he does it again

Like pottery

>>376545930
>shouldn't
The nigger can't even retain aggro after a voke + threat combo. Yeah naw, don't risk it, be a good little tank bitch and tank stance until you're 100% certain you can drop it without being a liability.

t. someone who did it

>>376545939
I hide the healer to DPS posts. They're cancer.

>>376544578
They made it unequivocally useless when they took the Graniteskin trait away from WHM.

Pre HW: Absorbed about 1.5-2 medium hits from bosses, combined with HoT gave WHM a lot of wiggle room to stance dance.

Post HW: Gone as fast as you can use it during combat, no difference between casting it or a heal, offers no windows for anything.

These days it's nothing but a placebo you AoE before starting a run and after a boss if Swiftcast is up.

>>376545970
>slowing down the run
>waste other people's precious time

>>376546058
t. shitter healer who can't stance dance for shit

>>376545970
I even use the play dead emote and pretend I'm sleeping by typing "ZzzZz" in chat when I'm not healing

>>376532189
Laurentius didn't really fuck you over at the end scenes. He got inspired by the WoL to fight for something that matters, its just that he fell in with the wrong group at the end. I think he's one of the more interesting characters desu

>>376545756
Grit is on. It makes no sense. I have no idea what to do. I've caused so many wipes in training parties that I left by my own because I was so embarrassed. Btw, I cleared Sophia ex 10 times and farmed a9s no problem. But I can't get my head around this.

>>376528442
Hey yoshi, who let you on here?

>>376545643
>Learn how? No bonus, no bonus, no bonus.
What exactly is preventing you from forming your own learning/clear parties???

>>376546037
I don't even know jo he'd managed to do that.

Literally nothing short of blm fire iv crit can steal aggro from tank final threat combo + provoke.

>>376546180
>He got inspired by the WoL to fight for something that matters, its just that he fell in with the wrong group at the end
He fucking sided with Ilberd for money.

why do people want to throw healer bunch of snowflake convenience skills where it would potentially cripple the harder contents?
things like Auto-life

Either that, or do you want the content to be 4x harder than it suppose to be? Will normies like that? Is it marketable to the general mass to keep them interested? Not dissing the ideas, but keep those in mind. Outside factors should be considered, not just in game mechanic alone.

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>>376546035

>>376544918
No you fire them

>>376546237
No one joins them. Regardless, learning parties disband quickly anyway, very few groups have patience to wipe for 15 minutes.

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>>376545947
Stop making excuses for a shitty game. I'm calling out a shit design on what it is. I don't care if they have money and manpower to fix their shit or not. You're kinda shilling hard for them there. Making changes I propose is 100% realistic, it just requires them to want it. It doesn't even need animations to be redrawn or anything, it just needs a few new mechanics.

I'm actually still on the fence about getting Stormblood at all specifically because of how lazy and dumb SE is and how any change takes literally years to come through. It's crystal clear at this point that they didn't learn a single thing from the failure of 1.0 and are gonna continue running the game into the ground until the playerbase has enough of their bullshit again.

>>376546284
>Auto-life
just make it on a 15 minute cooldown or something

>>376546212
Voke unmend aggro combo should do the trick.

>>376546212
There is also nothing to heal when add spawns in 10s.

How did you even lose aggro to healer?

>>376545643
>A10s add healer aggro
Their fault. They should be learning add spawn timing as well.
As for picking it up, leave the provoke until just before spinning slash, at least. Unmend -> plunge -> HS -> voke (if needed) -> spinning, etc.

>>376546212
Just start spamming unleash and telling everyone you're sorry for being so shit

>>376546504
do you even play this game?

Why do some WAR players still use a str accessory. YOSHI BANNED TANKS FROM USING STR GEAR YOU SHITTERS SO ADHERE TO THE GAME NOW

>>376546587
Fuck off with the same fucking posts in every thread holy shit go play a video game

>>376546587
To cheese ilvl requirements

>>376546587
Because alex ring of STR has better item weight than any non-alex fending ring, you cunt.

Reminder that healer DPS is a luxury not a requirement now that the game is fucking easy

So what will be the quickest way to get from 50-60 on one of the new classes? Grind HW FATES? I assume?

>>376546416
this is how you kill a WHM forever.
It will be treated like a trash spell like benediction because in the end, people will know they will not need it if they do well. Your either please the "raider" or the normies on this part, most people will not wait for a 5 min coolddown.

>>376546576
? Red light before add spawns, what are you going to fucking heal?

>>376546212
If it's troubling you, plan ahead for it. Save plunge so it'll 100% be up by add spawn, nab it with unmend + plunge and get right into your aggro combo. You'll only lose it from there if a WHM decides to divine seal + cure 3 spam on the whole group.

>>376546286
>so BTFO he can only rebute with meme images now

Keep going, i wanna see if you can hit yet undiscovered levels of retardation

>>376546747
if regen is ticking (especially on the whole party) healer will have aggro instantaneously

>>376546280
He's pretty much an addict. He keeps trying to turn his life around and works towards finding redemption for his actions but he always succumbs to the gil. He's just a torn soul his duality of character is pretty compelling.

>>376546838
There are no high raid wide aoe before that point, just shitty trap combo.

>>376546737
>benediction
>trash spell
Benediction is a great DPS cooldown.

>>376546737
I think auto-life is a shit idea, but I would like it just to use as an insult. Imagine seeing every DRG in the new 24 man wearing it.

1.5s GCD when

>>376546993
>benediction
>DPS
It should be used when you reach a particularity engaging scene in netflix

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>>376546371
I'm not shilling for anyone, post your retarded bait image elsewhere. I fully acknowledge that AST's design is lazy and that their attempts to fix it are incredibly lazy.

The difference is that I'm being realistic based off of Yoshi P's laziness whereas you're going the same route hundreds of other people have already walked down with the same shit. As much as we all want it to get reworked, it is never going to happen. I'm looking at solutions to AST from a realistic perspective based on what they've done balancing jobs in the past and what they've stated they feel the problem is with healers in general.

Going "REDESIGN REDESIGN" is the same useless nudging that doesn't even remotely ring in their ears. They know that's the solution; obviously it's too expensive and time-consuming for them to do so, so they're never going to do it. This is what AST is.

Other than that, I agree with you. Stormblood so far looks like Heavensward-Lite. 2 jobs instead of 3, barely any info.

>>376546212
Are you sure you're didn't miss a part of your combo? Is your accuracy capped at 700? This happens a lot to people if they don't cap their accuracy.

>>376532571
>The footage so far has really lacked a lot of oomph, even the LB3 is unimpressive.

I really wanted SAM and this is me. That LB3 is lamer than fucking final heaven and they are surely picking the flashiest moves to advertise the new jobs so the rest must be even more boring. Hope the gameplay of it is fun because it sure is boring watch.

RDM looks so much more interesting by comparison.

>>376546737
it's a dumb idea anyway because dying is hardly recoverable anyway in the hardest circumstances because of the sickness and all of the mp you have to blow on rebuffing and healing the guy after you've brought him back.

>>376547079
GL4

>>376547150
>Going "REDESIGN REDESIGN" is the same useless nudging that doesn't even remotely ring in their ears
Hey screaming at them to remove GC restriction in Frontlines finally worked.

>>376546737
>>376547047
They're going to do it. Right now overhealing on WHM is wasted if you get big heals. Heal partitioning would kind of solve that problem.

>>376546717
>fates

lmao. to palace of netflix with you

>>376547149
funnily enough the only times i've ever used it is when i've been dpsing and don't bother getting out of CS to actually heal

>>376547192
>Final Heaven
>boring
Honestly despite i like FH better than the 600 Dragonsong Dives I see everytime i go into a 24 man. I swear the DRGs are always the autistic faggots sitting right on top of their Limit Break hotkey.

>>376547192
I wonder if those are actually SAM's lv 50 kit.

Because it sure as fuck doesn't feel like lv 60 one, let alone 70.