How do you make a character badass but not edgy?

What's wrong with making a character edgy? Nothing.

>>376524367
I honestly think Notimportant and Donte should be tied, you simply don't get more edgy than Notimportant or retardedly rebellious than Donte

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You make them respectful to women

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>>376524367
Ryuuko a cute

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>>376524367
what's his level /v/?

>>376524516
You can't take a character serious when he tries too hard to be "badass".

>>376524550
Mr Torgue was the white knight king. In a good way!

>>376524665
Doesn't apply because it's ironic

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>>376524692
Who cares? If that's the intention behind it, then it's ok in my book. Why do you need to take every character "serious"?

>>376524853
Its a problem when the game itself wants you to take it seriously like DmC did while its characters are failures

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>>376525056
How is that a problem? It's hilarious. People were laughing about it for weeks.
It just sounds like you have a stick far up your ass.

>>376525319
Why are you so smug? You sound like you use Shadow the Hedgehog as a self-insert

>>376524774
>ironic
how so? nowhere in the game is it stated that his edgy personality is supposed to be ironic.

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>>376525508
I do.

Nah, honestly mate I just think every character archetype/trope/whatever is valid in its own right.

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One the one hand I'd say it helps to be an interesting character, but on the other hand, its pretty easy when the rest of the cast as duller than gardening equipment.

That said, he shines like a brilliant edgy diamond.

>>376524367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vds3azJeuEI
The edgiest.

>>376525640
Every character's valid, but some are more valid than others.

>>376524367
Lets be honest, Vegeta only got good by the Buu Saga, other than that he is insufferable and whiny not badass.

>>376524367
By making them funny.

>>376525821
Out of three entire fucking campaigns, I'm pretty sure he, Abathur, and Zagara were the only characters I liked. How did the writers fuck up so badly?

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>>376524367
so like, you can even name your character Edgworth or Edgehog, but that doesn't matter.
Edgeworth is badass without being Edgy because he's competent at what he does. You wouldn't want to defend against him.

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>>376526005
nailed it

>>376525640
I think what he's saying is that people were laughing at it for the wrong reasons. Not every character needs to be taken seriously, but if their intent is to create a serious character and it's just "edgy", the purpose has failed and it can be difficult to watch. Then you poke fun at it and have a good time.

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>>376524665
DIE

>>376526252
Because the other characters were just kind of There, while Alarak and Zagara had their own little story arcs to a degree.
I'd probably put Fenix in there as well, but the way Artanis interacted with him was pretty hamfisted, so the scenes come out worse than they could have.

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Which side wins in a fight?

>>376525632
>nowhere in the game is it stated that his edgy personality is supposed to be ironic.

No fucking shit, why would anyone in the game ever state that?

>>376527114
>Any of them having a chance against the Rated R Superstar

You think you know me?

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>>376524367
By making them cool and capable.

>>376524367
Number 4 is #MAXIMUM EDGE but there are 3 characters who are more edgy on the same graph

Edge is love.
Edge is life.

>>376524367
There is literally nothing wrong with having an edgy character. In fact it can actually add to the experience if done well, debate me.

>>376527214
So you just admitted its not ironic and that it should be on the list?

>>376524367
nothing wrong with edgy characters
>how to make a character badass but not edgy
no possible way. they're going to be edgy in one way or another

>>376527313

*steam effects off-stage*

>>376524367
>How do you make a character badass but not edgy?

what these 2 things have to do with one another?

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>>376524367
>>376524656
HMMMMMMM...

>>376528251
>being this dumb

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>solemn and taciturn
>benevolent, forgiving and compassionate
>dry, understated sense of humor
>strong beliefs and convictions, dedicated to protecting the innocent and making the universe a better place
>unstoppable killing machine
>doesn't afraid of anything

edge factor: 0
badass factor: 100

>>376524367

the character must have weaknesses, occasionally show vulnerability and not overly enjoy everything they do.

Master Chief, for example, is a "badass". Dante is an edgelord
>>376527114
Team A

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>>376527114
Where's The Edge from U2?

>>376524367
A badass doesn't have to try and look like a badass. A frail old man in sandals and shorts could be a badass.

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>>376524367

>>376524665
>My name is not important.

>>376524367
You make him as ridiculous as possible but play it straight. Kratos gets a free pass because he's such an asshole it's comedic, and then does ridiculous shit like fight his way out of hell after being killed.

Likewise, Doomguy does a similar thing. Badass is showing, rather than telling why they're badass. An edgelord needs to tell you "I am the ultimate lifeform" but all we ever see him do is shoot cops.

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>>376527114
>Jim Raynor
>Master Chief
>Commander Shepard
>Issac Clark
>Crysis dude prophet

Yeah nobody is gonna survive that onslaught of getting the job done

Its not hard. Just don't kill your own henchmen to prove how much of a badass you are

>>376524367
Vegeta's edgier than Ryuuko.

>>376529890
Eh

Vegeta's also the guy who started at maximum edge the very first time he appeared and then has been steadily becoming more compassionate and friendly for the last 25 years

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>>376529890

>>376524367
Corny edginess is something that happens when you research what is supposedly cool instead of taking something and presenting it as cool because you think it is.

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>>376527114
Throw this guy in there

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>>376524665
>skulls
>spikes
>DIE DIE DIE
>too high to appear on the chart
I can't believe a bunch of full grown adults agreed on that being in the game, hes like a character that an angsty 14 year old boy created
although I don't really mind the mask but if they trimmed down a little on the skulls, spikes and some lines then he wouldn't be too edgy or badass I think
tfw hes my main on OW, mfw team kill with ult

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>>376529097
I like where you're going with this

>Will go to the ends of the korprulu sector to save anyone he cares about
>Proficient in marine power armour, battle cruisers, bikes
>Has the respect of his men
>Was the biggest faction to rebel againts imperialist scum Arcturus.
>Doesn't let the bottle hinder his "getting the job done"
>Will sacrifice the mission to save Terran lives
>Drinks like a fish before and after its over

Edge factor : 5 (cause he hits the sauce hard)
Badass factor :95

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Corrupted Avitus was edgy as fuck but it was okay because he was also right.

>>376526551
Edgeworth works because he is as much of a baddass as he is a dork, scared of earthquakes, daddy issues, tries to save face when he is wrong, intentionally tries to hide his feelings like an edgy teenager, but you overlook such things because of how reliable and legitimately cool he can be once in a while, he is also a huge bro you can count on when it matters so he gets away with being an asshole

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>>376524367
but where on this graph whoud Jak be?

>>376530883
No where because he redeemed himself in jak 3.

>>376529097
this is why i can't hate on Halo

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>>376529890
>ryuuko
>not edgy
She literally does a *teleports behind you*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlRyb2wQ1BY

>>376531195
was this ever explained?

>>376531412
I don't think so

>>376531195
Damn, I miss KlK. It was at the very least a very entertaining run.

>>376524550
If you've had the pleasure (read cringe-fest) of meeting someone like this irl Mr. Torgue is honestly hilarious

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>>376531412
what was ever explained?

ryuuko moved faster than light for a second and nui stabbed the remaining light image of her, then ryuuko chopped nui's arms off.

>>376534005
>ryuuko moved faster than light for a second and nui stabbed the remaining light image of her, then ryuuko chopped nui's arms off.
That just makes it sound like she activated King Crimson more than anything else

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>>376524367

>>376531195
I don't understand how anyone could watch that series so far

>>376534371
Boobs and ass, the explination behind a lot of things that don't make sense otherwise.

>>376524367
Make them humble or self-aware. It's overconfidence in their ability to be badass that makes them edgy.

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>>376534545
This.

>>376524367
>Character is selfless, whose ultimate purpose is to fight for others
>Character has a lighter side / can appreciate or crack a joke
>Character has a clear flaw and is working to overcome it

Basically anything that makes for a well-written action hero, remove these elements but keep them a badass makes theme seem lifeless and overly dark

>>376534583
>>376534660
This.

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>>376529440
Leave the pitchi pitchi girls to me

>>376524367
Let Gearbox design them

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>>376524367
>>376524665
>>376525821
>>376527114
>>376534105
this is the true form of edge

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>>376529097
>What if you miss?
>I wont.

>>376534660
shonen af

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For enemies, make them the equal of the protagonist. I'm a sucker for games where the big edgy bad guy has the exact same abilities as you.

Edgy is badass without a person.

Making them actually intelligent. And whoever the writer is has to write good dialogue. A character can look as shitty as they want but if they have really good lines then they're still good

>>376531195
That looks more like ironic edge

>>376524367
Why would you want to make a character badass? Word's tainted by Blunderborn now and has worn it's welcome in vernacular for a long time already like Epic.

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>>376534113
That would make more sense desu.

>>376529756
>>376527114
None of them can even kill alex mercer. Optimus prime is the only one who is OP. And on the other side dante, vergil and mercer are pretty much half-gods.

>>376524367
By having them not try to be cool at all? The less cool and flashy they try to be and the more shit they actually get done the more badass they tend to be without overflowing into edgelord tier.

>>376527114
If they don't have Wright representing them they're all going in the clink.

>>376536112
Please, they just have to rip off his arms 4 or 5 times and he will die

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Jackie from The Darkness was edgy AND badass at the same time
Such a fantastic game, I hate how little recognition it gets

>>376534105
why is corvo there

>>376536714
2ND GAME NOT CANON
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>376524367
>Not Important
>edgy

pick one

>>376534105
>guts is edgy

>>376534882
The sequel to that game was the biggest letdown ive ever seen.

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>>376527114
>just a bunch of regular soldier and a giant robot
>vs Super powered edgesters

>>376527114

>Samus not wearing her suit

wew

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you give them shame, humility, and fearlessness

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>>376528251

>>376524367
You simply don't take them seriously.
DMC3 Dante would be Donte levels of edgy if he played his personality straight, but he's a goofy spaghetti mess that also knows when to crack stupid jokes.
Edginess is directly proportional to how seriously a character takes itself.

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Where would dunmer as a race on the edge-o-meter?
Also where would Geralt be?

>>376534659
holy shit I only watched AoT and DN but this is really cool

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>>376534371
So you really thought that anime is taking itself seriously by that point? It's a pretty good show with TTGL levels of irony and bullshit.

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>Vegeta
>Bad ass

That's a weird way to spell 'whiny bitch'

>>376534105
Caius from final fantasy 13 is not edgy because if you kill your enemy you literally with 100% die.

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Will any game ever surpass Anonymous Agony in sheer edginess?

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>>376530298
>Video game for children
>WHY ARE THESE CHARACTERS DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN?!

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>>376539753
millennials aren't technically children

>>376527114
>naming the hatred guy "not important"
kek

>>376535289
azel is such a dork, I love him

>>376540084
how new are you

>>376539919
Mentally they are, which is all that really matters.

>>376540546
not new at all, I merely take long leaves of absence from certain boards

if calling him not important is a meme then I approve

>>376524367
Kiryu Kazuma.

>>376540629
dude fuck off

>>376524367
It's all subjective bullshit. Donte and dante are the same level of edgy but one of them says "fuck you" so he's an edgelord and the other is just the c00l3st b4d455 3v3r

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>>376528251

>>376541112
why? I guarantee 90% of the people in this thread haven't been on 4chan as long as me and that most of them only started posting this decade

do you disapprove of me saying meme now? I'm sorry to break it to you but if it's the case that people call the hatred guy not important and it's widespread, then it's a meme

why don't you tell me how old you are and when you started posting

Kiryu Kazuma
Ryu Hayabusa
Jin Kazama
Cpt. John Price
Wei Shen

What do they all have in common?

>>376524367
why the fuck did you take Haze Stratos out of the image you piece of shit

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>>376524367
I don't know anon. How do you?

>>376541241
>Donte and dante are the same level of edgy but one of them does something more edgy then the other
hurr

>>376541241
Dante isn't edgy at all (except DMC2), he's just got that cool factor. That suave charm that, like the Fonz, just makes him an awesome guy.

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>>376527114
Why would you call Rand's best friend edgy?

>>376526769
it's called "cringe"

>>376541870
How is saying "fuck you" edgy, even in the slightest, anon?
If anything dante plays into the edgy by being sarcastic, as if he revels in the edgy.
While donte is tired of edgy's shit and says "fuck you" to it.

>>376524367
Actually, "edgy" has very recently become kind of cool for being semi-parodic. It's been around long enough and is prolific enough that no one doesn't know about it, so edgy characters from 2016 on are made wholly with the "edgy" criticisms in mind. There's a way to do them right, problem is, it's fairly difficult, so they're not done a lot these days.

>>376539087
>vegeta
>whiny
??
no

>>376534882
he wasn't even that edgy
at least in the second game

>>376542007
>cool factor
That's like saying hot topic has cool cloths.

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>>376524367

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>>376539087
>Vegeta
>Not badass.

Get off this fucking board right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA-WIynIzzs

>>376524665
He's ironic.

At the very best he's between Kirby and Vegeta

>>376534371
Because it was entertaining. I'd almost risk saying it was fun.

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>>376527114
>All these newfags that unironically think top wins because it has all their favorite mainstream vidya on it
>Don't realize the absolutely broken horseshit that is Akasim and Shurouga Sin

>>376542043
okay anon

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>>376524367
Make them badass do-gooders. The world needs more Wonder Reds.

>>376542286
The kids who like Vegeta were always shitty little brats who got bullied, and they wanted edgelord Vegeta to come and beat up their bullies.

>>376524367
Step 1. dont be a weeb, gook, chink, nip or anything like that

thats it

>>376531195
So does vegeta every 10 episodes.

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>>376542439
That projecting.

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give them a reason for what they do

>>376542439
So the kids who liked Goku were the bullies?

>>376524550
Serious question, how is "friendzone" in absolutely any way misogynistic.

>>376524367
Why do people say Ryuko was a rated R superstar? She dindu nuffin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNwhxhItbWg

step aside, weebs

>>376529492
>playing AA games after 3
Fag

>>376542286
Dragonball is kind of pathetic.

>>376534105

Uh? I'm playing Persona 4 right now, why is Adachi in there?

>>376542803
t. 1999 kid who didn't grow up with it

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>>376542506

>>376542439

Vegeta is honestly one of the only tolerable DBZ characters. Even when he's being retarded with his "LETS JUST LET BUU GET STRONGER BECAUSE" it makes sense in the context of his character because he's always been a bit of a selfish asshole.

Him becoming less of a selfish asshole has been his entire storyline and it's continued in Super (which is retarded for a whole different list of reasons).

>>376524367
An edgy characters entire being will revolve around their "darker traits" similar to how fags will devote their entire life around being a faggot. A gritty and a good character will have other traits and try to move on from their dark events, like how a homosexual will not base their entire life around sucking cock.

>>376542840
>why is adachi, the guy murdering everyone, in there?
gee i wonder, retard

>>376541241
>>376542043
you don't even have to compare DMC and DmC dante to see the difference, just dmc2 with 3,4

in dmc2 he's acting like a dick just to look cool (flips a coin and only helps others if it's head (tho in the end it's revealed that both sides are head))

in dmc3 or 4 he's just acting silly when mocking others. Like you can tell that he's actually not full of himself but just joking around cause he's a funny guy.

Tho I aggree with you that Edgy is a cancerous meme term and that most people completely overuse it or act like it's some completely game/character ruining thing when it's just a simple unrealistic trait.

>>376530398
He is also a lefty.

Subtle badassery.

>>376542940
2. extend outwards beyond something else; protrude.

Nice try though.

>>376542286
>4 minutes of groaning, lightshows and the villain just standing there

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>>376542415
>Diplomacy has failed

>>376542415
*blunder red

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>>376524367

Give them a really cool mask

>>376542586
"Friendzone" refers to when a female friend doesn't want to have sex with you simply on the grounds of you being nice to her. The idea that women are obligated to give a guy sex because he is friendly toward her is pretty mysoginistic, and I don't even like using that word in general.

>>376525632
other heroes make fun of him in game.

>>376543967
and leverage with a desire

>>376542840
Who knows? Adachi was a good boy who did nothing wrong

>>376543985
>The idea that women are obligated to give a guy sex because he is friendly toward her is pretty mysoginistic

Different Anon, you're right.
And it's sort of why I hate the term "friend zone" because when used broadly it can describe an interesting situation of unreciprocated attraction combined with a demand for attention/resources.

But bitter beta cucks literally took, ran with it, and started shotgunning it at everything until it became meaningless.

>>376534105
bulleta should be bottom right

>>376542586
If you can assign even partial fault to a woman it's misogyny. You should really know this by now.

>>376524367
demon hunter is god tier fuck you

>>376524367
Postal dude is good edgy

>>376543338
Wow bro spoilers. Not cool.

>>376545129
You literally asked.

>>376545129
>9 year old game
>spoilers

>>376530881
he's the extreme of the lawful alignment, you can see that in the Investigations games

>>376545129
>game almost a decade old
>RRRREEEEE SPOILERS

>>376534105
>Nightmare being the absolute most edgy character there, even more than Terrorblade
>Donte that far back on the edgy persona axis
>Silver that far back on the edgy persona axis, and somehow less edgy than N, who was just autistic
u wot