PREY

>>376504671
The majority that have played past the first section end up liking the game.

Then again, you're on /v/ where most are either shitposting, basing their opinion off youtube vids or quit the game for dumb reasons. I remember some anon here quit the game because he couldn't handle fighting the mimics.

>>376504671
I don't know anything about it, what's the game like? A survival horror? FEAR like?

What's the appeal?

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>>376504918
>upgrade health to 300
>don't give a fuck anymore about mimics

>>376504964

Have you played System Shock? It's kind of like that.

>>376504671
It's a new game, of course /v/ hates it. Give it 3 months, if the game is still popular, /v/ will still hate it. If the game is forgotten by then, /v/ will love it.

inb4 autistics screeeeeeeching because it isn't Prey 2

the game is legit

>>376504671
>>time limited side quests that influence the ending
I don't question the others but this sounds horrible as fuck.

Sounds like a fun game OP. Maybe I'll give it a torrent

>>376505157
its not as bad as it sounds, you either have plenty of time or have to make a decision and can just pause the game and think about it

>>376505270
Denuvno you won't for a while yet

>>376504671
>time limited side quests that influence the ending
you mean change one line?

>>376504964
It's like System Shock except the level design is even more open. Many ways to navigate and proceed through the game like in good old Deus Ex. I can't say the combat will appeal to everyone but I love it. You have to make the most of a limited set of weapons.

>>376504671
>more genuine survival horror game than RE7
>RE3 Nemesis like creature that will hunt you through the station

This. I liked RE7 but the more I play Prey, the worse RE7 seems to be in comparison.

I just got to the G.U.T.S but I feel like I've missed so much already

>>376505302
Like a week?

>>376504964
very much like system shock

Some use immersive sim to describe games like Deus Ex, System Shock or Dishonored

>>376505146
It creates a sense of urgency, if a game has a side quest with some great imminent danger, but you can just linger with no consequence, it feels dumb as fuck. Many games are guilty of this, like Witcher 3

I'm confused. I thought the new game was Prey 2?
Is this the first old game, or the game who came out now?

>>376505394
Don't worry about it - just pop to the nearest airlock and fly around to explore the areas you've missed.

Prey is nothing like system shock, I'm not sure why people keep making that comparison

>>376504671
>hates it
No, people just don't give a fuck about it.
In fact, the entire industry doesn't care.
Didn't it sell only about 30k copies on UK in release day?

>>376505405
It took 3 months for Nier Automata to be cracked

>>376505479
Alright sound cheers man

>>376505394
You can always go back anon. I'd recommend it even, I got really low on supplies in the late game when backtracking got more and more dangerou. I couldn't really afford looking for supplies when there were phantoms and robots on my bum constantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6515IOANn4

Lazy game.

>>376505541
Because they felt guilty at cracking a based game like that too soon.

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>it's all a simulation
what a fucking garbo ending

>>376504671
It's not the original Prey 2, a game /v/ pretends to be the ultimate game to end all games (how they came to that conclusion after just watching a trailer is a mystery) so the board hated it.

>>376505146
Too bad I can't inb4 about you autists screeching about people that still want prey 2.

is it like DE:HR or MD? If so I'm interested

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>>376505529
And that is sad, it is the first singleplayer shooter in a long time that is worth playing.

> stacking human corpses to get more organic materials using recycler grenades

I'm just salty that they canned Prey 2 for this instead.

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>>376505038
I'm doing a no neuromod and save all humans run for my 2nd playthrough. I'm not in a hurry to meet the telepath.

>>376505824
>Bethesda cancelled it due to quality control
>The company that gave us Fallout 4 worried about quality control
>They'll happily release shit but Prey 2's quality has even them worried
>b-but they released that one heavily s-scripted demo so i-it must h-have b-been good l-look at the cgi t-trailer

get the fuck over it you sweaty little autist

>>376504671
>RE3 Genesis like
>Genesis
next level shilling
DAE GUD GRAPHX

>>376504671
>pls buy my game guys

That webm you posted isn't that amazing OP. you should be able to climb that hole you created in the glass, also Bioshock 2 already had you shooting into buttons and shit to open areas, the difference is that now you need to aim at the button on the screen.

Try posting a better webm, it really makes it seem the person who posted is making such a huge deal out of nothing.

>>376504671
>more genuine survival horror game than RE7
Iol if you play on a tv and not in vr i can already say with 100% certainty, Bullshit

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>>376505836
It is somewhat similair, basically if you like Deus Ex you will like System Shock, if you like System Shock, you will like Dishnored, if you like Dishnored you will like Prey

>>376505906
but they didnt.

It started out as a new IP (which it kinda is) while another team worked on Dis2. They just used the name probably because it sounded cool, plus Bethesda made them use it.

Also the HH devs themselves are the ones who canned the game due to "politics", whatever that means.

>>376504671
>its a retarded mix of the bad parts from bioshock and dishonored with garbage gameplay for consolebabys
>add crafting to it

Gee, i wonder why /v/ hates this garbage.

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>>376506276
i never played the original DE, SS but I liked dishonored.

>>376506276
you must be gunning for the most boring webms award or something, post something good to watch you fucking inbred

>>376506381
How about you play both of those before playing Prey? They're both fantastic.

>>376506486
I'm waiting for the remasters or remakes that people are making for them to be finished.

>>376506023
>you should be able to climb that hole you created in the glass

there are iron bars right behind it so you cant climb through

>>376505969
I'm talking about the fucking monster stalking through the game you literal retard

>>376506534
I understand waiting for SS1, but Deus Ex plays just fine today after grabbing the updated renderer

>>376506534
Well there's really no good "remaster" of Deus Ex being worked on aside from GMDX and that's already finished. There's also Revision but that's not even a good remaster and makes everything worse. System Shock though, they're doing what looks to be a really good remake.

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>>376504671
>Genesis
Holy fuck just kys you retarded faggot.

>>376506276
System Shock isn't like Deus Ex at all despite how it was made by the same people, DX is a RPG/FPS hybrid, while SS1 was a shooter that was quite a space dungeon crawler, but there's no stat progression in SS like you do in DX, and no choices in getting upgrades for you characters (augs), it's rather a you get modules and you're getting stronger all the time, no need to specialize. System Shock 2 that was made by Irrational who had no involvement in SS1 was more similar due to its stats and flirting with the RPG genre.

Did you really play those games?

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One answer please

Since this is obviously the next coming of System Shock oh my gosh

Can you see your character in the mirror? Surely you can do that and much more?

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>>376504671
FUCK OFF!!

>>376506534
This anon is correct >>376506640

>>376505127
>LE /v/ IS LE CONTRARIAN MAYMAY

E P I C
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>>376506591
you mean those on the sides? because unless he's a fat ass he should be able to climb it fine

also I forgot
>weapon wheel instead of quickswitch 1-0
Consolized shit, even the nuDeus Ex games got this right

>>376506768
it's not a meme when it's 100% true

>>376504671
>good graphics
PS2 character models though

Anything good I can do on my first space walk? I did manage to find a gun shooting electrical beams and bunch of pointless supplies but since airlocks are locked and bunch of fuck-yous are guarding hull breach at power plant I can't find any other short-cuts.

>>376506697
nope, you can look down and see your legs though

>/v/ still hates it
Citation needed.
I haven't seen a single shittting thread for the game.

>>376506668
>>376506640
>>376506729
What mods should I use for DE then?

>>376506697
No you cant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6515IOANn4&t=0s&ab_channel=TheHaddockbanker

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>over 20 hours long is now something good for /v/

>>376506831
In my opinion, none. But if you MUST use mods on your first play through then probably shifter or something small that fixes some bugs. Do a GMDX play through later.

>>376506831
First playthrough? Nothing but Deus Exe, maybe New Vision and HDTP if you really can't stand old grafix (HDTP models are a meme, you can disable them and keep just the higher res weapon models)
Second playthrough, go nuts, probably GMDX
Check out The Nameless Mod too.

>>376506901
/v/ has always loved longer games, it comes from most of the people here being underage/unemployed and wanting the most "value" for their money and having lots of free time. I mean there are literally people here who believe that $1 = 1 hour of gameplay is the only acceptable price/time ratio.

>>376506932
>>376506946
Thanks anons last time I tried playing it I hated the controls and the graphics and lighting. I did like the character 3d models though

>>376506823
>>376506836
lol

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>>376504671
It's just a mashup of the most popular major release mechanics, story elements and overall concepts. Stop shilling from your Bethesda office desk, fucking faggot.

>>376507036
Length isn't everything if the game starts becoming boring in the middle. I'm struggling to finish Divinity Original Sin EE because it really gets b oring after a certain point.

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>>376506901
>numales complain game is longer than 3 hours
gaaaaiimuuu

>>376507162
I agree. A 20 hour game is great if most of that 20 hours is interesting/exciting. A 5 hour game is also great as long as that 5 hours is all good stuff. It's when you get into the 20 - 40+ hour games where there's actually only 10 hours of content that shit goes off the rails.

>>376507297
>That gif

The only time that stupid hamster made me smile

Im baffled the game runs at 30fps, without looking into it I kinda assumed the graphics look how they do because they were compromising for the frame rate. Even doom runs at 60 and looks better.

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>another shitty fucking FPS by Bethesda
You're right: No thank you.

https://steamspy.com/app/480490

hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkHZfjK5z4

>>376507498
in every way not superficial this game looks like shit

>>376507404
is it locked to 30 on PC as well? If so that's unforgivable, especially considering it looks like Half-Life 2.

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>>376507104
you are just a sad little faggot, I'm having a hell of a time with it

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>>376506798
but anon you can't fit through there, they are much closer than you think
>Consolized shit, even the nuDeus Ex games got this right
not my fault the guy who made that webm is a retard, but the game has that too.

>>376507603
No I dont mean its locked on PC, on console it runs at 30 sorry.

>>376507596
Isn't that video from Prey 2, the game that got cancelled?

>>376507596
Still better that new one

>>376507603
its not locked at 30 on pc
the guy you responded to is probably on console

>no meme devs
>no e celeb shit
>no massive marketing
>no hated enough to like it contrarian style
why would /v/ like it?

>>376507685
yea and it looks like we dodged a bullet on another generic scripted hand holding game. The redeeming qualities people were looking forward to are superficial. The demo has the player holding a gun, waiting for people to talk when in reality the player would just shoot everything labeled as a target on sight.

>>376507669
Are you 250lbs? Because those bars aren't enough to deter a human from passing, given the glass is broken.

Look at this stick man passing through a much tighter space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFguxvjT55c

Now the gap between the bars in the webm look far bigger.

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>>376507606
If the game is so much fun why are you spending your time on 4chan shitposting rather than playing the game?

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>>376506807
>my word is law
Nah, fuck you boy

>over 20 hours long
>Actually listing this is a positive
I mean, if it's a $60 game then I guess. Not sure where this "short games are bad" meme came from but whatever.

>>376508017
Short games are bad if they are full price releases.

>>376508017
The "meme" (DURRRRR) came from shitty half asses indie games that are a 30 minute story

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>>376508017

>>376508127
short indie games are bad too

Terraria could easily give you 30hours+ of content in single player and that game is like 10 bucks, often discounted to half of that. Many other indie games have a lengthy play time, Hollow Knight was one of them.

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>Jim says it's the game he's enjoyed the most over the past few years
>Razorfist says it's Babby's First System Shock
Fuck, who do I trust on this? Jim has shit taste in games, but Razorfist's whole gimmick is being a contrarian. Now that I think about it, if you add the two of them together, they're basically your average /v/ poster.

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>>376508009
because I already finished it anon

>>376505302
And yet there's already a torrent for it.

>>376508278
Cetrainly not 'I wear makeup under my shades' - Razorcuck.

>>376508017
I got 100 hours out of persona on one playthrough and it was more enjoyable than prey for the same price

>>376508127
It is a meme. A good game is a good game, regardless of length.

I knew it was garbage as soon as I saw the ending leak. It's not fucking worth my 40 queen's faces and I won't get it anyway because I fucking hate Arkane.

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>>376505038
>Everything else still slaps your shit down to sub-150

i love it

unless you max Combat Reflexes this game is relatively well balanced

>>376504671
Because it has denuvo, basically.

>>376508356
[Citation needed]

>>376508278
It's more complicated then Bioshock, more simple then System Shock. Don't trust either of them. Do check out GGGman's original review and his follow-up vid to that to form your opinion.

>>376508391
/v/ didn't hate D44m and it had Denuvo, same for Nier

I don't see people hating Prey 2017 at all, but I do see always the same people posting similar shit and reposting the same Prey webms, always, hmm I wonder who's behind those posts.

When do you get alien powers?

>>376508537
After you get the scanner, you have to scan aliens to unlock powers.

>>376508537
once you reach psychotronics

>>376508537
get the psychoscope a couple of hours in and then you scan enemies with it to open up ayy powers

>>376508526
You have to remember that a large portion of the people on /v/ are yo ho hos, either from being NEETS or just being cheap fucks or just not giving a shit.

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>When you see it.

>>376504671
>is Prey in name only
>only exists because Bethesda tried to drive the studio that made Prey out of business

Prey could be the best game ever made and I'd still hate it for existing

>>376508673
runescape?

>>376508278
>Jim has shit taste in games, but Razorfist's whole gimmick is being a contrarian. Now that I think about it, if you add the two of them together, they're basically your average /v/ poster.

Its funny because its true.

>>376508680
>Make a shitty game
>Publisher removes funding because they aren't happy with how their money is being spent
>REEEEEE STOP DRIVING PEOPLE OUT OF THE BUSINESS REEE

Everyone seems to forget that a lot of people dropped the game entirely because the console only demo was plagued with excessive motion blur/DoF and controlled like fucking ass with huge amounts of input lag

Thinking about picking it up to run through this weekend, can the blur nonsense be disabled entirely? Because that kills it for me, at the very least I want to turn off that obnoxious camera motion blur that made it goddamn impossible to enjoy

>>376504671
>good graphics
They are mediocre.
>a real system shock like game
You didn't even play system shock.

>>376505073
For fucks sake, it's not. Stop this memeing.

>>376504671
It has shit gameplay
Enemies are boring, weapons have no impact whatsoever, feels like I'm just shooting air
Fuck, even the walking feels like the unity premade movement script

>>376505380
>It's like System Shock
Literally nothing in common except huge space station.

>>376508624
>>376508621
>>376508614
Cool, only just got the booster for space walks which I found fun, looking forward to dicking about with the powers later on.

>>376509053
>>376508994
You are right, its nothing like system shock, however it is the closest thing we have gotten to system shock 2 which is what most people mean when they say system shock

>>376508361
Nah

>>376509160
>which is what most people mean when they say system shock
Thats just retarded.

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>>376509160
after certain amount of typhoon neuromod isntalls, the bots will detect you as a threat

>Over 20 hours long
HAHAHAHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxfQwROXRwQ

This game is better than Prey 1.

>time limited side quests that influence the ending

what

Tell me which sidequests these are so I can know to do them immediately.

>>376509265
>Can speedrun Morrowind in five minutes
>LMAO SHORT ASS GAME

>>376509160
>it is the closest thing we have gotten to system shock 2
I don't see much common between prey 2 and sci-fi dungeon crawler that was ss2.

>>376509420
SS1 was more of a dungeon crawler with no character building, while SS2 was a RPG/FPS hybrid much like Deus Ex.

>>376509313
They do show timers, no worries anon

>>376509557
I think I accidentally stumbled onto one of them - I pushed a button that scuttled a ship and only listened to the transcribes about it afterwards hahahaha.

Fuck em they probably had ayys on board anyway.

>>376509536
>like Deus Ex
>no stealth except for that one spell
It was rpg/fps hybrid, but much different from deus ex. And it still plays a lot like a dungeon crawler.

>>376509557
Oh good, not a problem then.

>>376509703
So what, you need stealth to be a RPG? Both had character building except one went for skill points while the other adopted more traditional VIT/AGI/STR/INT stats/attributes.

How is it on PS4?
Did they fix the input lag? Is the framerate stable?
Should I just get Bioshock the collection?

>>376506534
underage detected

>>376509817
Read that post again.

>>376505692
jesus christ

I really love how you can cheese the fuck out of shit with the goo gun.

I climbed goo up to Alex's whole area in the greenhouse level. And even though it led to nothing really, even used it to reach the escape pod without hacking anything on the way.

>>376504671
my personal GOTY after Zeruda to be honest

>>376505692
Are working mirrors some lost technology to advanced for our age to replicate?

>>376505692
Why didn't he turn on the light in the bathroom for the 2017 part?

>>376505692
>modern game has cancerous PRESS F TO USE interface
evry tiem

>>376510194
More complex games means there would be more to have to render in the game. In Prey you can drag any item you want wherever - you're encouraged to make stacks and then recycle them with a grenade. If you did that with an in game mirror you would absolutely annhilate the frame rate

i thought denuvo got fucked

where is the crack

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>>376505692
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
APOLOGISTS WILL KEEP FINDING EXCUSES

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>prey
>good graphics

It looks like shit even though they used the latest version of CryEngine

It looks laughably bad and it's sad that they couldn't get it to run at 60fps on PS4.

What is /v/'s fucking obsession with mirrors?

>>376510367
Yet hitman games have working mirrors.

>>376506591

>I'm talking about the fucking monster stalking through the game you literal retard

But that's NEMESIS, lmao.

>>376510689
Because it's really strange to see them reflecting shit in an old ass game while not reflecting shit in a newer game. The same thing with physics.

>>376505503
>gigantic space station to explore in a semi-linear way
>said station has been devastated by an alien invasion
>guided by a mysterious voice
>story unfolds through audiologs and mails
>customization based on physical attributes, technical know-how, weapon management, and weird superpowers
Jeez, you're right, where does that comparison even come from?

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>>376504671
>guys it's like doom
>no wait guys it's like system shock
>no wait guys it's like resident evil
The gunplay is shit and that's the end of the story.

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>>376510689
It's the most simple way to spot incompetency.

poorfags hate it because they can't afford it

but admitting that is too embarrassing so instead, they pretend that the game is shit and that they wouldn't ever buy it anyway

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>>376510721
welp, alright, I fucked up

>>376510835
Wow, just like system shock

>>376510826
>said station has been devastated by an alien invasion
>customization based on physical attributes, technical know-how, weapon management, and weird superpowers
So where was it in System Shock?

>>376510854
its because of consoles

>>376510940
In the second one

I really, really think the game is great in every aspect, the visuals, the gameplay, the story, and ESPECIALLY the enemy design and music/sound design.

But even though I think the game is easily a 9 or 9.5 I also just think it's mediocre. Like, it's extremely good, but it's extremely good in an average way.

>>376510972
some games have working mirrors though

>>376510940
Are you sure you've played SS2?

>>376511005
Than say it in the first plays.

>>376505146
Prey 2 wasn't even fucking Prey 2. It was going to be an open world cyberpunk game about being a bounty hunter with a grappling hook gimmick.

Has nothing to do with a linear FPS where you play as a magical native American who walks on walls and goes through portals.

>>376511113
So what does this has to do with system shock again?

>>376511078
they probably have way shittier graphics, at least shittier than they coudl have been had they not had working mirrors

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>>376505918
Not that hard. You just gotta throw a grenade then rip it to shreds with the shotgun.

>>376511113
SS2 doesn't have a space station.

Such a overrated game. As anon said, It's a boring mashup of todays "popular" video game mechanics. That sucks, there is zero originality in it's gameplay.

Feels like I played this shit a million times already.

>>376511273
oh wow, it has a space ship. So different.

>>376510784
Not really though

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>>376510689
/v/'s retarded, that's about it.

They see mirrors functioning in older games or in a single tiny room in newer games, have no fucking clue how they actually function or the difference in memory/calculation footprints between old and new games, and so their primitive lizard brain just latches onto "DUKE NUKEM 3D HAD WORKING MIRRORS THAT MEANS ANY GAME WITHOUT THEM WAS PROGRAMMED BY RETARDS"

You can safely discard the opinion of any moron going on about mirrors. In fact you can safely discard the opinion of anyone talking about graphics on /v/.

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>>376511315

>>376511071
>music/sound design
>great
how.

It kicks in at all the wrong moments.

>>376511392
Shill harder.

>>376511260
Warframe has mirrors and graphics don't suck.

Don't even buy the game, just buy the fucking incredible soundtrack. Mick Gordon's best to date by a landslide, shits all over even Wolfenstein's great score, let alone the garbage DOOM soundtrack.

>>376511553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TRdx2tbUFI
agreed the soundtrack is the titties

>>376504671
>oh look, it's an outbreak of alien lifeform that attacks everithing that moves!
Can you even think of a more unoriginal story?

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>>376507457
But it's not by Bethesda you fucking troglodyte.

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>>376511551
>>376511078
>>376510854
I will give you one chance to prove you are not retarded:

How do you think mirrors function in video games on a technical level?

>>376510906
Neck yourself cunt. Fucking stupid piece of trash.

>kitchen sink approach by lazy developers who cant even get basic combat right
>if we appeal to everyone, someone will like this turd!
>shills cant even talk highly of actual gameplay just keep highlighting theres vents you can crawl through with their VARIED FUN

>>376511626
yes

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>>376511260
uncharted 4 has working mirrors and it BTFOs every single pc game there is

>>376510854
Unreal was a tech-demo like Crysis.

you're right.

>>376511716
Shaders.

>>376506276
>if you like System Shock, you will like Dishnored
You what, those two games are entirely different.

>>376511934

>>/tv/
we're talking about game mirrors, not movie mirrors anon

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>>376511718
>getting this mad over a letter
lmao go outside dumb nigger

>>376512007
it was a shill post, most obvious around

Dishonored is an average game that really doesn't hold up compared to any System Shock and even worse if compared to Deus Ex.

>>376505692
kek new one looks terrible

>>376510703
>inb4 autist starts screeching about NPC's ignoring objects in the mirrors
head turning already does that and is annoying as fuck.

I'm glad no one gives a shit about this game. It looks decent and price will drop like a rock so I'll get to play it on the cheap ala the new Deus Ex.

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>>376511983
Oops, you're retarded

The answer is different depending on the game (older games like >>376510854 actually have a second room with a clone character also bound to your controls)
, and I'm afraid "shaders" is nowhere near a good enough answer. Regardless, if there is a pre-baked shader like in unity it's usually accompanied by a script as well in order to function properly.

You don't deserve it, but I'll give you a chance to elaborate on your answer and prove you're not the retard I know you to be.

>>376505692
stop making these videos

>>376512180
>>376510542
>>376510194
>>376510078

>le mirrors lele mirror meme
Is this autism?

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>>376511934
>30fps

Heres what games look like on PC if they have good enough graphics to have to be ran on the same shitty framerate cap

The sound design *scare chord* was infuriating *scare chord* *inception horn*

Why *scare chord* do games think th *scare chord scare chord* to do this? *out of place, repetetive synthwave*

>>376512408
Yeah how strange would it be for someone making the game to actually decide how they implement mirrors instead of not putting them in the game because modern devs can't be bothered to do anything that isn't literally copy-paste.
The answer is literally shaders. You're the retarded one.

>>376512476
It's proof of the game's quality to me. If mirrors are the best the shitposters can come up with, then it must be a good game.

I'll get it with my next paycheck.

>>376511619
This is fucking boring. Synthwave can be good, but this is so generic and uninteresting

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>>376512620
>the answer is literally shaders
So you either don't know how a mirror shader works or you don't know what "elaborate" means.

Either way you've proven yourself retarded, and everyone in this thread knows your opinion isn't worth shit.

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>You can destroy january as soon you meet him/her
>game doesn't end

>10/10

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>>376512652
I think the game looks like shit because of poor gunplay and what definitely looks like terrible AI/pathing, but anyone on /v/ talking about mirrors is a goddamned retard and deserves to be called out as such.

>>376504671
Whats sorta killing it for me is that everything feels the same throughout.

No zone really makes you go wow, it's just another part of the space station with virtually no difference in one place to another. In those areas all you do is pick up the same kind of items and fight the same kind of enemies.

They give you pretty much every weapon you'll use in the first half an hour, meaning things get old fucking quick. The gunplay was satisfying at first but quickly dies off after you've killed your hundredth mimic.

Mimics are retarded, halfway into the game they don't hide any more. You see them run past THEN turn into an object.

I really want to love this game, I do. But it's just boring.

>>376512705
What do you want me to elaborate?
A shader tells the GPU what to draw.
If the mirror is in the viewport, it draws what the mirror reflects. It's not rocket science.
But please keep posting meme images and making an ass of yourself.

>>376512797
I'm more interested in the exploration and the gimmicks (like micro-G and that foam cannon whatever thing) anyway. I think it will be great for me.

>>376504671
How much similar is this to Bioshock/System Shock ?

If this is just a reskin, why should I bother ?

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>>376512868
>A shader tells the GPU what to draw.
>If the mirror is in the viewport, it draws what the mirror reflects.
Ahh yes, such a technical view. Clearly you know what you're talking about re: memory and calculation footprints.

How could I have ever doubted your expertise, Mr Carmack?

Seriously, though. Kill yourself.

>>376504671
>you retype the code shown on screen
>state of gaming in current year

>>376504671
>bethesda game
>console oriented
>predictable plot HURR DURR PLAYER IS A MIMIC WHAT A TWEEEST
>differs from initital advertising
>costs less than it sellf for

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>>376513032
>gets called out on how mirrors work
>now it's about performance
>even though other games have already been listed which do mirrors and good graphics
All right friendo.

>>376512880
the actual shooting is ... fine. It's ok - it's not up to scratch with most first person shooters, but then anyone who relies solely on their guns is completely unimaginative. It is far more enjoyable to me to hack into turrets, set them up and then transform into a turret myself after luring an ayy lmao using the lure nade, to the point that "the shooting isn't very impactful" became meaningless to me

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>>376513259
>these games do mirrors AND good graphics
Once again a marvelous show of your (utter lack of) technical knowledge.

Truly a marvelous example of the dunning-kruger effect.

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>>376513109

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>>376509265
>speedrunners

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>>376513259
>>376512868
>>376512620
how much harder does this guy need to get BTFO before he stops posting

>>376513432
Since you're so clueless about how to implement graphical features, are you an engine programmer for Arkane by any chance?
Or are you just shilling for Bethesda?

>Play game for 18 hours slowly crawling through levels collecting all the goodies
>Get the Bioshock-effect and just speedrun the rest of the game because I don't care anymore
>Played on Nightmare and it was still easy peasy
>Only ever saw two Nightmares, neither of which lasted more than 15 seconds or even wound me.

I guess I have to go for a no Neuromod run just to have a challenge.

>>376513549
I think Prey looks like shit, I'm just more than happy to call out retards bringing up the "mirror" argument

No matter how much they may reply or protest, deep down inside they know that they're being retarded and someone knows how dumb they are. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside, making these people feel retarded for saying retarded things.

>>376513621
watch out guys, we've got a badass in our midst

>>376513621
>Get the Bioshock-effect and just speedrun the rest of the game because I don't care anymore
Funny, I was playing Bioshock for the first time yesterday and it happened right after Fort Frolic.

>>376509265
>out of bounds speedrun
>"SHORT GAME GUYS"

>>376513259
You don't know shit about shaders.
A shader is a collection of material that reflect light back to the engine to render.
Every object in the room has a shader.
A shader is not a light source or an encompassing rendering thing like you think it is.

Mirror double the amount of things you have to process and render.

There is a reason why you never see mirror house in game because it create infinite reflection that put infinite strain on the engine

All old game with mirror are done with gimmick work around and not actual real life physic.

>>376513869
Fort Frolic is definitely the game's peak tbqh

>>376512152
>doesn't know difference between genesis and nemesis
>calls someone dumb
Legit retard. kys

>>376510689
If you focus on MUH GRAPHICS so much you skip story and gameplay, at least commit enough to implement working mirros

>>376514035
There isn't any evidence of this you idiot.

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>>376512029
>>376512563
that looks fucking ugly also ARK is still shitty optimized and is a bad game lmao

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>>376514035
>if your focus is on graphics then obviously you should implement one of the most resource-hungry and functionally unimportant features imaginable

>>376513932
Go back to the comment chain and think about what you're saying.
Yes they're applied to objects.
You don't even have to render everything if you don't want to, you could only render 1/4th of pixels and approximate the rest and you'd still have a functioning mirror.
There's no excuse today for a game to run or look like shit especially a AAA game.
All these shit excuses are just that excuses. They don't put mirrors in because they think they can get away without optimization or being actually creative.

But hey fuck that right?

>>376504671
GOTY
AVELLONE IS FUCKING GENIOUS

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>>376504671

It really doesn't look like fun.

Too slow, guns seem too weak, at least without upgrades or whatever. In ss2 you weren't fucking crawling everywhere with peashooters as your only weps. Black globs for basically every enemy is lazy and boring as fuck, too.

>3 months later
>Prey gets cracked
>suddenly more threads about how it's actually a good game

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>>376514535
>Yes they're applied to objects
Are you responding to a nonexistent post here?
>You don't even have to render everything, just have the computer render the whole thing so it can pick out 1/4 of the pixels, then constantly run interpolation calculations
I don't even

shit game

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>>376514417
lmao dude, ark is rendering an open world that spans miles, your shitty corridor shooter cant hold a candle to it in terms of graphics when you consider its rendering more than one tiny little area

if you really wanted to compare screenshots i could post star wars battlefront on PC and blow you the fuck out, but its a fucking terrible game and the maps are small, so its not even impressive

>>376514035
>>376514352
>>376514452
>prey
>looks like a ps3 game at 1080p
>focusing on graphics

>>376514908
>ark is rendering an open world that spans miles
No, it's rendering an open world that spans a few feet, then an extremely low LoD rolling skybox

>>376514730
Odd because people said Doom was good way before it was cracked. You're fake news.

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>>376514908
that looks like skyrim lmao

>>376505836
I hate dishonored but I love prey though

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>>376515019
>"it takes literally no extra processing power in any way to have a larger game world than what is shown on screen"

lmao what a retard, if that were the case uncharted could easily take place on wide open maps and let you explore, instead of having hills and rocks directing you through a narrow area

>>376515236

>>376515674
>say something dumb
>get called out
>pretend both you and the poster you're quoting said something else
Cool story, bro.

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>smash window
>can't jump through it

why are west cuck developer so retarded?

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>>376507836
>>no massive marketing
Are you an idiot?

>>376515775
whats your point?

games that have the "best" graphics often only do it at the expense of having any meaningfully large area to explore, or anything to interact with

and in my opinion, that isnt all graphics are about, i take into account the entire game world and what can be done in it that puts a load on the hardware in any way, rather than just pure aesthetics of whats on screen at one point in time, like you consolefags

>smash window
>monitor that you could poke with a broom stick to open the door
>in the game you shoot at it
>Woah so amazing 11/10 gameplay mechanic
kek
talk about making a fuss over nothing

>>376512408
That's wrong Unreal uses portals to reflect the world.

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>>376515915
THERE IS METAL BARS YOU RETARDS HOW IS EVERYONE ON V SO BLIND

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>>376516008
>games that have the "best" graphics often only do it at the expense of having any meaningfully large area to explore
It's almost like graphics being "good" or "bad" is something that morons say to express their basic opinions and aren't useful when talking objectively about technical abilities.

It's almost like there is a give and take between things like the quality of models/textures/bumpmaps/shadows/particles as a result of memory and cycle management being a zero-sum game.

>>376516451
only vertical check mate

>>376514613
>black globs

Is there anything else though? I watched some gameplay and all was either that or some walking mutant that shoots fire.

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>>376516451
Not him but there's ample room to get in, are you that dumb? Ever heard of squeezing through a passage?

>>376516479
Yeah and when you consider all that, Ark is more impressive than Uncharted because it looks nearly as good if not better despite having an entire open world and hundreds or thousands of dinosaurs and animals roaming around that can be ridden

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>>376515019
>>376515775

lmao yea show me one console game that can render an area this scale, with every player on one server
>processing

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>>376516796
>Ark is more impressive than Uncharted because it looks nearly as good if not better despite having an entire open world
It's like you didn't even fucking read my post.

>>376516863
>show me a consolegame with more than 10 players on multiplayer

rekt

>>376516765
That looks a lot wider than it is anon, look at it from the start

You fuckers will nitpick anything because "muh bethesda" jesus christ

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>>376516863
>comparing ARMA, a PC-only sim with MASSIVE requirements, to console games

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>>376515674
dude that looks like battlefield 3, pls stop

>>376504671
Well shit, that some TECHNOLOGY that I've never seen before

>play for 19 hours and it runs perfectly
>decide to carry on today
>Prey has stopped working on my last save
>Reload an earlier one - it works but I've lost 20 minutes of play
>Catch up with myself, make it to deep storage
>Prey has stopped working
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>376516967
You can climb all kinds of things in this game, why wouldn't you be able to climb that window? It ain't nitpicking, it's developers not thinking this through.

It's probably hard to implement a good climbing system that allows you to get over those spots with broken windows but hey fucking Half-Life allowed you to do that.

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>>376516906
So whats your point?

Does ps4 have a game that looks as good as ark and has an open world?

>inb4 horizon zero dawn

it doesnt look as good as ark on ultra, no

>>376517052
>posts a corridor shooter moviegame

>>376506768
But /v/ IS contrarian, you fucking idiot child.

>>376517518
you mean /v/ is a single person?

>>376517225
You can climb that, you just can't get through the bars anon. You can just vault through broken windows as long they aren't bullet proof.

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>>376517361
>does PS4 has a game that looks as good as ark...

>>376517629
>runs at 720p and 30fps on lowest graphics settings

>costs 3 times as much

>still one of the top selling games on ps4

hahahahahahahahah

>>376504671
Im still salty that we'll never get Prey2 and this unrelated game got the name.
Looks fun tho.

>>376509265
>Look ma! I linked to a speedrun video!!!!

>>376517624
Yes, but it doesn't make sense given how "climby" the game is, and back in 1998 there was this game that allowed you to break windows and crouch jump inside rooms, it's a possibility they missed, it would have been better if they allowed you to also enter that way, after completely breaking the window.

I mean isn't the game about doing things in all different ways? Well you missed an obvious way to get inside that room.

>>376509703
You can do an entire stealth run, and there are multiple stealth boosting abilities like reduced sound while moving to the point where you cant be detected basically as long as your crouch, plus the mimicry ability

>>376517698
Lets me honest here, getting 30 frames out of the unoptimized mess that is Ark is pretty impressive.

>>376518068
Then even less reasons to say that it's like ss2.

>>376504671
/v/ hates it cuz no waifus

>>376505270
It's Denuvo 4 senpai

>>376518106
>"unoptimized"

no not really, its just aiming for graphics that are literally a generation beyond your shitty consoles because its not even technically out yet for a while still

if you were going to make an early acess game it would be pretty stupid to make it not be more demanding than normal games, considering hardware will advance by the time its finished

>this is one of the best looking games of all time and has thousands of dinosaurs walking around but duuude its so unoptimized because my shitty console cant run it

>>376508517
I like GGGman but don't trust his reviews, he often misunderstands core concepts of games and gets really butthurt when people point it out (he only played singleplayef of R6:Siege, didn't use alt-fire in some new indie shooter etc). He is ok but he really can't handle any criticism or banter towards him.

>>376508517
>people forget "2" in system shock 2
Really makes you think.

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>>376504671

There are going to be people who accuse OP, me, and anyone else who says good things about the game of being shills. But what he’s saying is true. Prey seriously is a throwback to the SS2 days. I feel like I’m playing a modern version of something from the PC golden age (SS2, Thief 2, Deus Ex) I’m just constantly impressed by it.

>>376519595
Yeah I know. I thought both his original review and the follow-up damage control vid in conjunction did explain a whole lot about the game though, both potential good and bad points.

>>376519814
What's your point?

I can't justify buying a single player game for 60 dollars unless its absolutely exceptional

>>376520013
>I thought both his original review and the follow-up damage control vid in conjunction did explain a whole lot about the game though, both potential good and bad points.
It's really odd, though, he absolutely shits on game in the first one and praises it relentlessly in the second.

>>376520096
>60 dollars
I dunno where the fuck you buy your games, but I got it for 40$ on GMG.

>>376520096
>not living in Russia where pc games cost half of that
Whats your excuse, anon?

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>>376508517
>more complicated than BioShock
>more simple than System Shock.

This is simply impossible anon. Both System Shocks had objectively less complexity than BioShock 1.


System Shock 1
>variety of ammo to use against enemies of different types
>no passive upgrades
>no weapon upgrades
>no research
>no crafting

Any customization in SS1 was done through inventory management and turning powers on/off.

System Shock 2
>variety of ammo to use against enemies of different types
>16 OS Upgrades (unlockable passives), 10 implants (equipable passives). Total of 26.
>2 upgrades to each weapon, but all of them are just generic gun stat changes (more damage, less recoil, larger magazine, etc)
>research done through putting chemicals in a machine and watching a loading bar. Just gives damage bonuses and allows you to use 3 late-game, very niche items.
>no crafting

BioShock
>variety of ammo to use against enemies of different types
>58 gene tonics (passive upgrades). 31 unique ones if you eliminate upgrades to existing ones.
>2 upgrades to each weapon, some of which change functionality (immunity to your own grenades, changing pump action to semi-auto, ability to recover crossbow bolts)
>research done through Dead-Rising style camera minigame. Unlocks changes to enemy mechanics, like their grenades failing, or the ability to predict their teleports.
>can craft special ammo, gene tonics, and consumables


I love SS1 and SS2. But to say that BioShock is simplified is just silly. The only thing it lacks is inventory management.

>>376520263
It was damage control but he did play through it a second time.

Keep in mind, he hated Deus Ex, System Shock 2 and Soldier of Fortune 2 for the first time then liked them for the second. Either due to the praise those games got or his own actual experience actually changed his opinion.

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>>376504671
Just finished the game on Nightmare, what a wildride, easily a GOTY contender but the year has just begun and there are so many good games already.

Can someone explain the ending to me though?
What happened to Morgan?
All or part of this did happen right?

How did Grant Lockwood end up floating in the middle of space?

>>376504671
Because the first Prey has tainted us.

And we hate being reminded of the first Prey because it was shit.

>>376520480
You suspiciosly don't mention psionics in ss2.

>>376520263
Watch the video again, nowhere does he absolutely shit on the game.

>>376520641
Shills are on a full damage control. Is Bethesda this desperate?

>>376505706
>>376505302
It could literally be cracked any moment. Nier took forever because it used a new Denuvo version that was just bypassed and according to the ruskies that bypassed it, It's an all purpose bypass that can be used for any Denuvo V4 game

how would you improve prey /v/? I want to play it but can't just drop $60 on it now. It seems really good. sometimes it seems like a videogame can't get any love on /v/ unless it's weebshit

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>>376511270
>>376505918
no, best way to kill the telepath is with a nullwave and the q beam. Or you can snipe quietly it with the pistol but it takes too many bullets.

>>376504671
I actually loved the game, and I am very glad I bought it.
I played through with only human abilities, unlocked them all, upgraded all weapons, found all emails, transcribes and people (which you dont need to actually find all 100% of these things, about 90% is ok). I want to play it again, but playing a game like that back to back, well it loses it's impact if you can remember every room and where the enemies are.
I'm playing HZD now, then GR2, then I will be going back to PREY for the only alien mod playthrough.

One issue with the game is that at late game the difficulty drop is too high, it's virtually god mode. I manage to use combat focus, sneak attack a nightmare with a shotgun, gloo it and 2 more shotgun blasts and it's dead. the hardest enemy in the game Killed in 10secs.

Might have to try nightmare no needles run eventually

>>376520364
Russia is a shithole dictatorship, no thanks.

>>376520781
t. gggfag
the contrast between him been overly critical in the first video and overly positive in the second is obvious

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>>376514613
Too slow, guns seem too weak

That's up to you depending on your playstyle and what difficulty setting you want to play on.

Also,
>without upgrades
Isn't a good complaint. Saying something is bad until you've made an effort to make it better is your problem, not the game's.

>>376504671
>DUDE IT WAS A SIMULATION LMAO

And that is why I'm not touching it. If anybody can deconfirm this spoiler for me, I might actually look into it, but as long as this is the case, it's trash.

>>376521035
read that on /r/worldnews, right?
I believe prey is $60 here too, though. Bethesda games don't have cheap prices in slav countries. Same with doom.

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>>376504671
>no crack
>no demo
no sale

>>376520480
SS1 has passive character upgrades called modules you faggot, also far bigger weapon variety. Oh yeah, taking a picture 3 times or so making you do +10% damage to the enemy, what a deep mechanic. Also better level design.

You are oversimplifying SS1 and SS2 while making a huge deal out of everything Bioshock games have.

>>376508673
nigga dat sum Arx?

>>376517171
Turning off Vsync helped me with freezes/crashes.

>>376521286
No, I read whenever journalists dare to defy your slave master Vladimir Putin, and they get killed. Now go back to praying to Putin or else I'll warn him you're a spy.

>>376521264
isn't it like the second layer of the plot or something? idk about the actual plot, though, I don't know jack shit about it but it can't be good. I don't think simulation lmao devalue the game, especially if the actual story inside that simulation is good. I mean, I would still love MGS3 if it would all be revealed to be a simulation for solid snake in the end or something.

>>376521101
I didn't even know the guy before he was spammed on Prey threads for being the only guy to criticize some bits of the game, which to /v/ means it's absolute garbage.
He says the same stuff in both videos, and none of them are trashing the game.

>>376505394
no spoilers, but there is a pot of no return at teh end of the game where most of the inner and outer space station will be inaccessable to you.
there is a part of the game where the airlocks are sealed, which if you are in the G.U.T.S is probably where you are. Once you get them unlocked you are free to travel around the entire station, before that point of no return, of course.
there is some mandatory back tracking anyway, and areas will have changed.

little easter egg spoiler
look for the corpse and use the computer around the orbiting trastar sign

>>376521431
I'm with her too bro

>>376521452
I don't know, retarded shit like this turns me off a game real fast. I burned myself once with Star Ocean 3, I'm never touching anything that features this kind of "plot twist".

>>376521286
Steam has sperate pricing for post USSR counrties, so its around 30 USD in local equivalent.

>>376521610
I think Outlast 2 did it okay

>>376520861
The loadings.
I have no doubt they would have loved removing them but it's a technical thing and I can't really give a solution but holy shit it would make the game so much better.

Having to go through 4 or 5 10s loading screens twice to complete some of the end game sidequests is a real pain.

>>376521629
No, that's not how it works. Developers choose to have separate prices of CIS countries. Some developers, like Bethesda, choose not to. Games like Planet Coaster, Doom, Prey cost full $60 price here. Why would you even argue if you don't know for sure?

>>376521543
you mean the witch cunt who helped your slave master to get uranium? Not my fault you believe the fake news bro, they've been buddies all along, just like that commie nigger who admitted he needed to be reelected to keep helping russia, I mean sucking russian cock like the good little commie he is, now it's time to drop the offtopic posting

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What was his endgame?
Did he meant to leave like that?

>>376521712
is it any better on SSD?

>>376504671
>>/v/ still hates it

I'm more disappointed that the first sequel was scrapped. It sounded really interesting and I really liked the first Prey.

>>376504671
after what Bethesda did both to the original devs of Prey/Prey 2 and that small indie game Prey For The Gods i will not be giving Bethesda any money

>>376521863
>now it's time to drop the offtopic posting because I'm afraid of your counterarguments

>>376521858
Prey costs 1999 here, that's around 30 usd.

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>>376522087
I live in CIS country and the price is $59.99. Other games are $29.99 instead of $59.99. the prices are different for different slav countries

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>>376516451
>those last 3 post numbers

>>376522289
>not 0451
dropped
I'm honestly getting sick of 0451 meme,
I hope the first lock in this game doesn't have this password

>>376522037
>arguments
you had none dimitri, now go back to obeying your manlet leader

>>376517624
>>376517225
>>376516967
>>376516765
See that window over there? You can climb it!

>>376521863
>>376522485
>>376521431
>>376521035
>dictatorship
>slave
>master
>obeying
Projecting much anon?
I can almost see a pattern here /v/...

>>376521950

no problems with it loading on a ssd in raid0