>tfw Persona won How will we ever recover smtbros?

We won't, our series will be stuck on a lackluster hanheld/console at 720p/20fps while the Personachads enjoy their 15 P5 spinoffs at 4K/60fps.

By making a game with as much style and widespread appeal as P5. Unfortunately I doubt that can be done without compromising SMT's perceived "purity." So basically you're fucked.

>>376494756
What does SMT have that Persona doesn't?

Serious question, I don't see the appeal in Demon Pokémon.

>>376494756
Your show's over SMTfag, just accept your place as second class citizens.

>>376495045
Being edgy and letting you kill people who don't agree with you.

What is even the problem. It's not like they don't still make SMT games

>>376494756
>not liking both

only a sith deals in absolutes

Just bought P5 and im going in completely blind into persona games

What am I in for?

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>>376495235
Can't wait for you to complain that the next game is LITERALLY Persona because some girl thanks you for saving her from getting her ass reamed by Ose.

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>tfw Atlus prepared a bunch of tasty HD demons for Persona 5 that will surely carry over to SMT on switch

The persona fans have their game now, but SMT's future looks even brighter

>>376495304
>What am I in for?

why dont you play the game and find you, dumbass.

>>376495304
sim dates and waifu faggotry

>>376495304
a very good game

>>376495045
Beating your friends to death if they're being fuckfaces.

Strange Journey was the last good SMT game. Coincidentally, it was also the last one to have major involvement from Kazuma Kaneko.

Atlus is too busy whoring out Persona and spinoffs to the weeb fanbase that made P3 and P4 so popular.

SMT is dead now.

>>376495045
Better OST
Post-apoc settings
Most of the game is gameplay and not cutscenes and social sims
Bosses that actually requires planning to beat

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>>376494924
>60fps

>>376494756
By not making this thread every day.

>>376495645
OST is debatable based on setting.

>>376495045
>I don't see the appeal in Demon Pokémon.
There is no hope for you then, you may as well just kill yourself now because your life will never be enjoyable.

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Post your face when Project Re Fantasy outsells SMT 5.

>>376495814
umad

>>376495645
>better OST

Nigga you serious? SMT ost's are meh at best. Nocturne OST is literally two cats fighting during edgy metal music.

>>376494756
>SMT fags spend years shit posting about how they're so superior to persona fags
>Are lucky to get a game not on a handheld

serves you cunts right

>>376495834
Is there waifus? Yes.
If not no

>>376495895
Dogs*
And it's awesome

>>376495890
Not really, its your loss that you can't enjoy something, not mine.

>>376495896
But we are getting a mainline SMT for non-handhelds.

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>>376495945
Ok. No need to play crap.

>>376495304
Adachi is the killer.

>>376495980
>switch
>non hand held

>>376495645
Your first point is debatable and your second isn't inherently superior. For your third, I would argue that Persona's social segments are very useful breaks from the action and help with the pacing. And as for the bosses, I would say both series have difficult bosses. It's just that the Persona games, on average, will let you figure out the gimmick during the fight and adapt to it rather than just fucking you in the ass and forcing you to restart from the top.

If you prefer the assfucking, that's fine. A lot of people are into butt stuff. Myself included. But a lot of people would disagree.

>>376496006
still basically a spoiler because their names are so similar

>>376495895
>Nocturne
>what is IV and Apoc

Meguro is a hack and peak at the DDS series

>>376495353

>implying it won't just be cardboard cutouts again

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>>376495943
You are right, im just baiting :^)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw

>>376496020
>PS4
>handheld

ok famurai

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FUCKING PERSONACHADS
REEEEEEE

The actual SMT games themselves are arguably the only JRPGs worth playing, ever. 99.9% of the time otherwise JRPGs don't give a fuck about really good, deep gameplay. It's all about the story experience where you go through a story that would be barely considered passable in other mediums, while you go through gameplay with a lot of options, but nothing interesting done with them, making the gameplay boring distractions between the story.

Mainline SMT is like among the handful of JRPGs that has made JRPG turn based gameplay actually interesting by actually taking advantage of the turn based system, while having minimal story elements so there isn't some cheesy ass friendship is power style storyline.

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Apocalypse had literal pedobait falling in love with you and calling you Master and literal gods using the term "power of friendship" unironically.

Face it, SMT mainline is ruined.

>>376496094
>What is Shadow Hearts, Grandia, and Radiant Historis?

>>376494756
>what is endure

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But thanks to Persona and it's ability to generate money like a fucking machine, the new SMT is getting a console release. If Persona didn't exist, who knows where SMT would be now.

You have to deal with us. We're paying for your games.

>>376496094
Literally this
Also dungeon crawling is some good shit then done right

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>>376496137
Don't care shit was hot.

>>376496142
Koudelka / Shadow Hearts is good for the (((experience))) but the gameplay is garbage. Can't fucking believe you'd even bother bringing up Radiant Historia or, even worse, Grandia.

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>>376495045
B L A C K U P P E R L I P S

>>376494756
Just fucking make another SMT game like DDS. Fuck, just give us another SMT game with fully voiced animated cutscenes.

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>>376496094
>mfw people tell me Tales is a good series

>>376496137
Massacre route was good. Thought I wish we got a little bit more dialogue between Satan and YHVH

>>376496314
>just give us another SMT game with fully voiced animated cutscenes.

Said no one, ever.

>>376495045
Honestly my love for SMT only extends to the end of world setting, its atmosphere and the central role of demons. In terms of story, characters, narration and just the overall gaming experience, nowadays it's just a worse Persona. I thought 4A was fantastic for a modern SMT game but P5 was simply better in all regards except the few I cared about.

>>376496062
Persona's ost (5's at least) is definitely better but Nocturne's ost is still great. Do you really not like fierce battle? Its not the kind of thing I would listen to if Im on a walk or some shit but in the context of the game it fit perfectly.

>>376496032
>several hours of forced breaks help with pacing
Fucking stop.

>>376496359
Back off from muh Berseria nigger

>>376496391
> In terms of story, characters, narration

No one is playing SMT for any of these reasons. You just don't like mainline SMT. That's cool, but it sounds retarded when you try to say that Persona out does SMT as SMT.

>>376496359
Some games actually have good combat, but not new ones, you're right

>>376496543
Call of Duty of jrpgs

So many of this shit series churned out every game looks like grey mush, it's garbage. P5 puts it to shame so easily.

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>>376496032
> I would say both series have difficult bosses.
3 is the closest you get to difficult bosses simply because its SMT lite, but I really hope this is bait if you are trying to say P5 or even worse P4 has hard fights

>>376495045
>I don't see the appeal in Demon Pokémon.
How the fuck can you not?

>>376496589
>mfw Atlus add a weakness for Shadow Yukiko in Golden because it's "too hard"

>>376496464
I like it but its not my fav battle theme.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MkGumP-qM

>>376496529
Except those are core factors of any RPG. It's delusional to say they are unimportant. Even if you want to reduce SMT to combat + dungeon crawling or some shit like that, P5 still gives a better experience simply because it's a proper console game.

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By having a new SMT game on the level of Nocturne ,that's not restricted to a DS.

>>376496643
>>376495045
>demon pokemon

SMT is older than pokemon. Pokemon just ripped off ideas from SMT and DWM.

>>376496567
Still they both have shit writing and tales of combat is better than last personas

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Leave Persona to me.

>>376496845
Yeah the first Megami Tensei predate Pokemon

>>376494756
Retarded bait thread Persona is SMT. Not every SMT game has to be about some edgelord getting fucked up the ass by Satan.

>>376497083
COMPLETE
FRANCHISE
SALVATION

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>>376496845

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>>376497259

>>376497083
Why is Odin a Power Ranger?

>>376495304
fun

>>376497085
MT, MT2, SMT, and SMT2 all predate it.

shit game

SMT goes open world!

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Are you with Tyrone or Rog?

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Let me date my demons

thats all it takes for SMT to surpass Persona

I want to take my birdfu to the Ginza mall.

>>376497804
Based Rog

>>376497804
They're both caricatures, but in this case the one that Tyrone's a caricature of is less insufferable.

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>>376497829

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>>376498056

>>376494756
>normie sub-franchise is more popular with normies
>patrician main franchise is more popular with patrician video game connoisseurs

how does that surprise you?

>>376497418
because they realized it was a better design

>persona kills smt
>even if it's still alive smtfags will complain that's is literally persona shit now
BASED FATLUS

>>376498370
>m-my fav game didnt sell so it must be s-super good!
SMTfags, everyone.

>>376495304
A good game that SMT elitists will pretend they don't like because it's Persona.

>>376499040
This. While Persona 5 is very good, the final nail in the coffin always come the SMTfags that wont accept "true" SMT games unless it was using outdated system and art resource recycled from 20 years ago, and alienated everyone that disagree with their backwards thinking.

>>376495304
Fun and waifus

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Why is she so perfect bros

>>376500545

That's not Amane.

More raidou

>>376500545
Easily the worst character in SMT and Persona combined.

>>376501352

Shes just a retarded 15 year old girl, at least shes not Keisuke.

>>376495667
Not everyone plays on the 10fps ps3 emulator anon.

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defend this

>>376501352
fuck off tripfag attentionwhore faggot

>>376496794
definition of RPG is debatable

core aspect of rpg for me is character customization and fun fights I couldnt give a rats ass how well written it is

>>376501835
Even Atlus knows that bringing SMT to console wont even out the money lost

>>376501835
Persona is the money maker so it takes priority on consoles. Now that the assets are available they can start making mainline console games.

>>376501835
What's there to argue against? Investment goes where the money comes from. Do you expect a company to reverse that situation and put all of their investment in SMT just because it's mainline? How many years has it been since SMT has been relegated to second place in terms of importance? don't you think it's time to let go instead of crying "muh mainline" all the time?

>>376496567
Your talking as if P5 isn't the first passable Persona game despite its shot story and characters

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>>376503484
This
Kaneko and Cozy gave up on SMT years ago
FACE IT SMTFAGS
IT'S OVER

>>376497804
>Tyrone
>Enjoys Persona for its light novel elements
>Enjoys the blend of dungeon crawling AND social sim elements
>Appreciates a good waifu to settle down with
>Acknowledges people with different tastes and that people are free to enjoy what SMT does, but that it isn't for him.

>Rog
>Goes full on attack on Persona
>Acts hardcore because he likes a different game that isn't particularly difficult anyway
>Attacks people with different taste for weak reasoning
>Defends SMT because "oh I can kill YHVH LOL"
>His waifu is Lucifer in drag

I think its clear who is in the right here

I just want a remake of the first game but with more demons and a better battle system. I'm hoping that the Switch game can deliver on that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyd3Y-vrwSI Other than David just popping up and insta-killing people, I don't think Persona or SMT will ever be able to recreate the feeling of running into the Matador.
It's kind of bittersweet.

>>376494756

Both are fun.

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>>376503891
I bet you dream of holding chie's hand instead of claiming the world for Lucifer's own glory

>>376504094
I'd say the first time Walter Agi'd Minotaur come pretty close

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>>376494756
>SMT
>SMT: Persona
>made by same company
>SMT vs SMT: Persona
Wat?

>>376504297
Persona is it's own series it was never SMT.

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>>376503891
>His waifu is lucifer in drag

See, that's where you're wrong.

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>>376504395
Really made me think.

>>376504212
Chie is the worst girl in any Persona or SMT title so no thanks.

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>>376504507
That's for the dumb gaijins since SMT was still the more popular brand at the time so it needed that extra push.

>>376495045
>demon pokemon
SMT did it right whereas pokemon is a shitty chinese bootleg version of SMT aimed at children.

>>376503891
>Chie
>good

Tyrone is a dumb P4fag. I bet he would complain about P3 not having direct control

>>376504395
>it's
STOP THAT

>>376504596
Persona is a Shin Megami Tensei spinoff. Just like persona dance shit is a persona spinoff. The series got popular cause of muh anime and became bigger than SMT in general. (Its not like there was a SMT game since Nocturne anyway).

>>376504395
Do you think that Age of Mythology is it's own franchise?

>>376496487
Berseria is the exception that proves the rule.

>>376504816
Devil Survivor is the spiritual successor to SMT except with an actually satisfying law route for a change

SMT IV couldn't even have a satisfying Chaos Route