Prey flopped

>using steamspy when the game just released

wait 2 weeks faggot

What is this game even some dead space ripoff

MUS B ALL DEM MUHFUGGEN PIRATES

I rented it. Pretty gud game but not sure if I'd have shelled out sixty for it.
>>376492153
Like Bioshock and Dead Space had a kid.

Dood sex sold like ass and now they expect another sci-fi fps to do better.
Good for me because I want to play it and just have to wait a few weeks for a delicious sale.

>>376491950
>denuvo gets cracked
>prey gets uploaded to major torrenting sites
>sales go up
mark my words

>>376492031
>damage control shilling
It's fine right now, it only needs a few days to improve accuracy

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>>376491950

COULD HAVE BEEN A SPACE BOUNTY HUNTER GAME

COULD HAVE AVOIDED DENUVO

COULD HAVE BEEN A HIT

>genuiely good Shock-like immersive sim with brilliant level design comes out
>flopped

gaming deserves to die out, enjoy your fucking open world remastered crap. I hate all of you.

>>376492310
Cowboy bebop game when?

>>376492326
You use the word "gaming", your opinion is invalid.

>>376492226
see >>376492308

>>376492326
>Shock-like

Somehow I doubt you're comparing it to System Shock.

Who the fuck is surprised? The gameplay is mediocre, the story is boring beyond all reason, and all of the setpieces are lame. Combine this with """music""" and no real reason to replay it and you just have a boring game in general.

>>376492326
Don't even dare to compare this consolized trash to SS, fuck off and eat shit

>>376492387
I've watched games for a long time on steamspy, I've never seen the numbers change much after a 4-5 days.

>>376491950
I haven't even tried the demo, but I've seen a tiny bit of gameplay from the beginning of the game.

FPS is a genre that has been done to death. Can't say I'm surprised that new IPs in that genre aren't selling worth a shit.

>we want more Prey
said no one, ever

>>376492492
>FPS

Is the original Deus Ex an fps too now?

>>376492186
In a good way or a bad way?

>>376492446
No shit, it says 7 days, retard.

>>376492389
i am, the game is closer to system shock than bioshock

>>376492326
We hate you too, Harvey.

>>376492561
good.

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>>376492326
My dude, clearly there has been a problem with the marketing. I'm neck-deep in the gaming industry and I have no idea what Prey even is. I didn't even know it was an immersive sim until this thread, and I'm someone who enjoyes Deus Ex and the like.

>>376492492
>FPS is a genre that has been done to death.
r u retarded?
what else is a "genre" not done to death then?

do you know what's "genre" for?
to generalize games.

>>376492540
He isn't even talking about Deus Ex, are you retarded ?

>>376492508
Not defending the game, but they said they only used that name because it sounded cool and it was available from bestheda. This game was going to come out anyway, Prey 2 is never happening.

>>376492653
then you would enjoy this one too

>>376492031
>wait the time the creator says to
>numbers actually do down
Would be funny. In any case there are other sources of the poor sales. Apparently the game sold worse than Prey in 2006.

>>376492326
There was a lot of shit surrounding this game that caused it to flop that wasn't the type of game it was. The marketing was awful, both in amount and in the content of them, and people (especially on PC) were already burned with Dishonored 2's launch problems. Shame it had to happen to this game since it seems to be good but oh well.

>No demo on PC, despite having demos on consoles
>Arkane's reputation for making a solid PC port shat the bed hard with Shithonored 2
>Denuvo

Of course it's selling like shit on PC.

That all being said, I've heard the game actually runs well and is pretty alright. It's definitely something I'm looking forward to trying out once CPY cracks it.

>b-but Denuvo v4!

Ass Effect Andromeda and Nier Autotomato were both recently cracked/bypassed, and both used v4. It's only a matter of time before "Prey.CPY" hits public torrent sites.

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>>376492574
Suck my tiddies, sexy.

>>376492657
Books

I'm not surprised people on PC are not flocking to it given the state of the dishonored 2 port

>not even releasing a demo on PC

What the hell were they thinking?

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>>376492653
>My dude, clearly there has been a problem with the marketing.

I think that depends on the idea of "modern marketing" because nothing short of AAA major campaigns can apparently get to people these days if your game is even in the general vicinity of that level. What I mean by that is, your indies can carve out some space but the moment your game has serious budget behind it it needs crazy marketing to compete or it will flop. Prey really way a literal WHO compared to the push Bethesda had for Fallout 4, for example.

>>376492653
Come on man, you know that's bullshit. Regular youtubers talking about it, I went to 2 different walmarts and a target and all 3 had big posters and Prey shit everywhere. Gamestop near my house same thing, big poster right on the door for Prey. This game received a lot of marketing, like most AAA titles, I don't know if it sold well or not but the marketing was the same as always, don't try to make excuses.

Survival fps are so fucking boring

the story is always drawn out, you have to listen to some fucker talk constantly to say nothing

items are always lackluster

shitty jumpscares

and i don't even know anything about the game.

>no review copies
>WHY ISN'T OUR GAME SELLING?

>>376492793
>we could only release a demo on consoles or on PC
>so we did it on consoles despite the type of game we're making being pretty PC centric
>also you can just buy the game and refund it as a demo lol

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>First genuinely good AAA western game flops
I bet the executives are going to conclude that good games aren't profitable.

They deserve it. Ruined the Prey IP

To be honest, I bought it off cdkeys instead of steam directly due to how cheap it was. Hell, it was going for $30-35 bucks for the last few months now.

I do feel bad, but I wonder if maybe Bethesda holding back review copies hurt it in the long run. Doom did well, but it was also a beloved franchise a lot of people were waiting on. Prey was not.

>>376492865
>and i don't even know anything about the game.
thanks for clarifying, buddy.

>>376492892
reviews literally said the game is too hard for them, i don't see how that is a good publicity.

>cancel prequel
>give other IP the name for brandname recognition
>new IP is completely unrelated to the original one
>no chance of sequels/spin offs of the old IP happening now
>surprised that people are mad

suits in gaming need to stop taking leads from hollywood this medium is far too young to do the name change/softreboot shtick

>>376492976
if kotaku and polygon say a game is too difficult, that's usually a good sign desu senpai

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>>376491950
>Mario cart 8 outsold prey on with all platform sales combined

>A whooping third game on a platform with no games outsold first person shooter №1567 on every other console

>>376492653
Wanna know what the real problem was? They never had a specific audience for this game, or at least they didn't specify what the fuck the game was about. The trailers were way too ambiguous and never presented the game for what it was, they just assumed people would be hooked enough to buy it and find out later but it wasn't enough.

>>376492998
>>376492921
Wew, why would people go on the internet and pretend Prey 1 was good?

>>376492740
What game is this monster from?

>>376493053
not everyone is a racist like you

>>376493053
Because controversy. No one gave a FUCK about Prey until the sequel got cancelled and this game got announced.

They didn't shill it well enough to be honest. There was almost no marketing for it for a weird reason. It's like they wanted it to bomb.

I didn't even know this game was out until this topic. In fact I have heard so little about it outside the pretty cool looking first trailer that came out for it back in...E3 I think I am not sure. Will check out though if it's anything like Deus Ex or System Shock 2.

>>376491950
This will probably do much better in long tail sales. Also, I know I'm personally not getting it until some time has passed or GOTY version comes out because fuck Bethesda and their DLC policy.

>dat feel when re-buying the game as GOTY is cheaper then getting some DLC I actually want
Still mad about this with Dishonored. It's also the reason why I haven't bought the sequel yet.

>>376493037
No shit. Nintendo fan buy games even for console they don't own. The switch version of BotW sold more than the switch herself.

I might get it used. I didn't like Dishonored 2 (too linear for a stealth game) but this game looks different. Like the aesthetic.

>>376492793
They said they wanted people to play the game and refund, guess they did.

>>376493053
because new thing < old thing
every time there's a sequel or reboot to a franchise nobody gave a shit about, this happens
would have been the exact same response if Prey 2 wasn't cancelled

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>>376491950

It's $79.99USD here in Australia, which is about $108AUD.

I'd rather punch myself in the balls than pay that amount. I'll get the piece of shit when it's on a 75% off Steam Sale.

Fucking Jews.

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My personal game of the year so far.

>>376491950
>The game has sold 150k units worldwide on steam
So same as Nier in the first 5 days

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>>376493310

>>376492308
/v/ will never learn

>>376492849
wait do you have a gender picker?

isnt' the main character like an established character?
also why is he chinese not indian.

>>376493310
Looks pretty fun, might buy it this friday.

>>376492857
Idk about the youtubers, but as far as posters and shit goes, being aware of a product and knowing wtf it is are two separate things. After all this time, somehow I'm still unaware of what the game consists of, outside of the logo and some general promo materials.

I just rewatched the trailer and while pretty, it just looks like Another Supernatural Sci-Fi FPS.

>>376491950
The trailer showed that it looked like shit what do you expect

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>>376493374

>>376493307
just buy it at JB, you stupid faggot

>>376493091
Actually, a lot of people gave a fuck about Prey before it was released. It was up there in the same vein as Duke Nukem Forever, seemingly always in development hell.

Only the game was actually pretty good when it came out. Not like amazing, but certainly better than whatever was shat out with DNF.

The real reason why people were upset though is because Prey 2 actually looked interesting, but Bethesda decided to can it because "it didn't meet their standards of quality." This statement going out when Bethesda was publishing games like WET and Rogue Warrior.

This game would've probably gone over fine with everyone if Arkane weren't just lazy fucks and decided to give the game a unique name, instead of just picking from a list of Bethesda owned IPs.

>>376492219
Yea bro if only they would let me have the game for free then I would buy it.

>>376493421
Yes and yes.

>also why is he chinese not indian.
Selamat pagi, that's why.

>>376491950
Too expensive for a single player game. I'll buy it when it inevitably goes on sale. Looks good though.

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>>376493458

>>376491950
Calling it Prey was a stupid fucking idea.
It's confusing to the consumer, it pissed people off who were mad about Prey 2 being cancelled, and it's not like it was a beloved franchise previously.

>>376493461

>going outside and dealing with people

Where the fuck do you think you are?

>>376493307
isn't your minimum wage like 18 dollarydoos?

>>376493474
>Actually, a lot of people gave a fuck about Prey before it was released. It was up there in the same vein as Duke Nukem Forever, seemingly always in development hell.

Not really. Biggest thing about Prey was the use of level geometry with portals before Portal that barely anyone took notice of because people know jack shit about tech. Also, it had an Indian protagonist.

>>376493474
I'm pretty sure Bethesda is the reason for the name, not Arkane.

>>376493482
I don't entirely agree with the logic the other poster is using but I can see why tons of people playing it due to piracy would help let people know what the game is. And not knowing what the game is, or even knowing it exists, seems to have been a really big problem with this game.

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>>376493514

>>376493489
>Selamat pagi

good morning?

It will be like System Shock 2

>>376492186
>Like Bioshock and Dead Space had a kid.

Just say its like System Schock.

>>376491950
>Mario cart 8 outsold prey on with all platform sales combined
You are talking about a game with no real connection to the first game to sell close to literally the best selling series of all time where 8 sold over 8 Million on a system that completely flopped.

>>376493474
>arkane
>choosing the name

nigga, please.

>>376493310
That's a sick shotgun. Will pirate this friday

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>>376493514
>Fallout damage indicator
What the fuck even is this game.

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>>376493578

Did anyone actually play system shock in this thread?

>>376493516
don't complain about a problem that there's an obvious and simple solution to if you're too lazy to solve the problem then

real talk though, Steam's pricing in Australia is actually a fucking joke

>>376491950
>dishonored 2 didn't do so well financially
>prey also doesn't seem to be doing well either

well, I guess that's it for arkane. they had their two chances after dishonored surprised bethesda financially.

>>376493636
That game looks like fucking minecraft what do you think?

>>376493310
Literally looks just like bioshock, including the stupidly huge clunky shotgun.

they had all the good will after doom but squandered it all with what a technical blunder dishonored 2 was.
of course people are not going to buy their shit again

>>376493627
I doubt Fallout was the first game to have enemy's health on the screen like that.

>>376493636
I played 1 for a while but didn't beat it. Couldn't get into 2 for some reason but played it for a few hours.

>>376493636
>>376493692
System Shock 1 is an uphill struggle
System Shock 2 is definitely worth checking out though

>>376493576
No, it was Arkane. The CEO of Arkane basically said they had a cool Sci-fi game being made, but couldn't think of a name. Out of curiosity, they looked at the names of IPs Bethesda owned, and thought "Prey" sounded like a good enough fit for their game.

>>376491950
I find it funny how comical so many reviews are, with one of the major complaints apparently being you don't ever become so OP you can steamroll everything with ease.

>complaints about lack of ammo
>ignores the recycler entirely

>>376493049

This. I knew nothing about the game aside from the posters and TV ads I saw and even then it just looked like sci-fi Bioshock, nothing really stood out to me.

>>376493796
post source, fag

>>376493748
>>System Shock 2 is definitely worth checking out though

HD mod and it still holds up today.
Only problem is a few tight corridors and some bullet spongey enemies.
Also getting used to old game design where you had to actually be aware of the enviroment and use a map.

>>376493738
I meant the "Sneak attack for 250% more damage" in a serious, non rpg game. I also bring it up because Bethesda.

>>376492657
>Battalion 1944
>Prey
>Destiny 2
>Insurgency: Sandstorm
>Strafe
>Quake Champions
>Get Even
>P.A.M.E.L.A.
>Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3
>Resident Evil 7
>Dead Island 2
>Dusk
>Star Wars: Battlefront 2
>Rising Storm 2: Vietnam
>Inner Chains
>Overload
>Farpoint
>Escape From Tarkov
>Lawbreakers
>Overkill's The Walking Dead
>Robo Recall
>Sea of Thieves

All of these are listed in "Top Upcoming FPS's in 2017," and don't even include shit like CoD or Battlefield. That's almost 2 per month, and isn't including the indie stuff, or CoD or Battlefield.

The market is totally flooded with FPS.

Story based sci fi fps games are fucking boring and they are oversaturating the market I think

>>376493519

>muh minimum wage argument

No, it's less than that but it's completely irrelevant. You go to America, what do you pay for a cup of coffee? $3.50? $4? Same in Australia. There's no fucking excuse for Steam prices in NZ and Aus.

The kiwis have got it the worst. Prey is about $115NZD, which is fucked because half the kiwi's don't have jobs.

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>>376491950
I hope it does flop for fucking over Human Head

>>376493841
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/08/08/arkane-on-why-prey-took-the-franchise-name-despite-not-being-linked-to-the-first-game/

der

Basically what I said. Arkane couldn't think of a name, they saw "Prey" lying around unused in Bethesda's IP, and thought it sounded decent enough to fit their game.

>>376493635
Is there an option to disable enemy health and the event log in the HUD?

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>>376491950
I'm not arguind that prey doesn't sell very hot but
>The game has sold 150k units worldwide on steam, this is a very low number. Even Dishonored 2, which was considered a failure sold 650k units.
Dishonored 2 was selling MUCH worse in its first days, mostly due to shit optimization.
Prey is a mid-budgeted game anyway, I don't think it must be a gangbuster selling product to became profitable at least.

>>376493883
>what do you pay for a cup of coffee? $3.50? $4?
A dollar

>>376493636
I played a bit of 1 back then, but couldn't do all of it since the game didn't support newer style controls like SS2 does. But I was able to beat it thanks to the Enhanced Edition that added the ability to switch to the typical post-DOS shooting scheme we all know of.

>>376493876
I know only 5 of them and all of them are existing franchises.

>>376493882
this
they were and overdone cliche in 2003, why are they releasing one in 2017?

>>376493876
Comparing Prey to standard FPS is fucking retarded. It's like comparing Deus Ex to Red Orchestra just because they're first person and shooter. Do you not know the term "immersive sim"?

>>376493310
Looksmediocre as fuck, will shitpost about it until shills give up

>>376493916
Sadly no, I wish there were HUD toggle options.

>>376493909
Fuck off Prey 2 baby

>>376493942

ONE fucking dollar for a cup of coffee!? Fucking serious?

>>376494012
1.05 with tax

>>376493914
Yeah, because

>"This time we wanted to make it on a space station, with aliens, and you had to survive with the full ecology, etc. As we started it, the name was available, and the connections were easy to be made. We just thought, 'Okay, makes sense,' so there we go."

totally doesn't translate to "Bethesda didn't want to waste a perfectly good trademark they already had or pay for a new one". Read between the lines for once.

>>376492857
i think it's more that the general consensus is that it is a linear fps (think bioshock infinite) when it's apparently not

>wasn't the type of game it was
everyone here is an inbred degenerate, including me

>>376494036

That's out of control. Holy shit that's cheap.

Yeah, we're getting fucked.

>>376493909
prey 2 was a disgrace

>>376494012
You can probably find it for a dollar but if you go to Starbucks which most people do it'll be like $4, yeah.

>>376493978
Different anon here. I'm aware of the distinction, and I still feel like the market has too many similar immersive sims. Unfortunately it seems like Prey came out when that fatigue has already set in

>>376493882
This is the most retarded thing I've read all day

>>376491950
i'm glad it flopped, it's a shit game.

I still don't know what is it about

>>376494096
I can't think of any other immersive sims to come out anytime recently unless you could the newest Deus Ex game.

>>376493994

I agree with this, not even trolling. Not sure why there's so many people sucking its dick - it's another sci fi shooter. We've got hundreds of them.

>>376493942
>he drinks McDonalds coffee

>>376493883
>$17,70 min wage
>cost of living is nearly identical as Canada
>meanwhile our minimum is $10

Stop crying cunt

>>376493870
>serious
>non rpg
wat

>>376494114
t. hasn't played the game

>>376494082
We'll like 3 or 4 at a place like Starbucks. But donut shops n gas stations and places like that sell it for a dollar

>>376494185
>he drinks coffee from a restaurant

making your own is way better and cheaper.

>>376494195

What's Canada's taxation rate?

>>376493968
Not him, but almost all of those games were announced during E3 2016 to be released in 2017. Whether you know them or not is irrelevant. They were big enough to have a show in E3.

>>376493978
Keep saying that, but all anyone sees is a hand holding a weapon, and that's what people see. The last FPS I played was Skyrim (if you can call it an FPS). Before that was CoD MW2. Before that was FEAR. Before that was Resistance: FoM. I honestly don't know the last FPS game that any of my friends played that wasn't CoD or Battlefield.

The market will correct itself because big budget games like Prey won't sell well, and they will begin diversifying into other genres.

>>376494043
Is it not? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME?? I may eventually be tempted to look up gameplay of it somewhere but the general public sure as fuck isn't. No wonder it hasn't been selling

>>376494113
Good post

>>376494096
>I still feel like the market has too many similar immersive sims
How many "similar immersive sims" came out in the recent years and how did I miss them you fucker

>>376494206
I mean immersive.

>>376494279
Sales tax or income?

>>376494287
It's basically a System Shock 2 clone.

>>376494287
think modern system shock.

>>376494250
I don't drink coffee.

>>376494312

Income. How many cents in a dollar does the average Leaf get taxed?

>>376494092
you can buy filter coffee at Starcucks for less than a dollar, i just think everyone's too retarded to ask

>>376494281
>The last FPS I played was Skyrim
Actually, it was Alien Isolation. But there you go. All the FPS's that I played over the PS3's life.

>>376494281
Having a show in E3 isn't big. Especially if your game was only announced a year before completion as filler between two big guys.

>>376494287
It's Dishonored.

>Mario cart 8 outsold prey on with all platform sales combined (ps4, xbox 1, and pc).

I mean, no fucking shit. Nintendo shares are skyrocketing off the back of MK8's absurd sales.

>>376494287
Jesus christ, why don't you leave 4chan for 5 fucking seconds and look up the game yourself?

Whats up with this memetic echo chamber hate for the game?

We finally get an attempt at a system shockish game after years of genre death.. /v/ today would bash system shock 2 probably you collective autistic spergs.

>>376492326
a combination of 10 different games that managed to turn out boring and bland is a more accurate description.

>>376494376
their coffee is awful.
They use way too strong coffee and burn the shit out of the beans. Only reason people drink their coffee is all the other stuff they put in it to mask the taste.

>>376491950
>Mario cart 8 outsold prey on with all platform sales combined

The Switch just got its second game, of course it's going to sell absurdly well.

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>>376493883

>$4 for a cup of coffee

are you for real?

>Not just going with the current industry reboot standard and naming the game System Shock and getting a bunch of free publicity just off that
>Naming it the same as a mostly forgotten game from 2006
I wonder how they fucked up.

>>376492653
this desu. And with denuvo even pirates can't spread webms and screenshots.
They've created quite the 'secret base' around this title.

>>376494442
>people mad about Prey 2
>people mad at Arkane because of how shitty Dishonored 2's launch was
>people mad at Bethesda for being Bethesda
>people not realizing the game is actually a decent immersive sim because nearly every game that comes out nowadays is watered down garbage

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>player character wakes up
>dude time to test shit lmao
>mix of half life and portal intro
>something goes wrong
>you wake up to the same day as before
>holy shit everything is just one big experiment
>goddamn we're actually in space
>ayy lmao has invaded the station
And then you have to explore the station to find out what happened to everyone and there are guns and abilities to unlock.

>>376492326
Because now the normies have tasted delicious Japanese gaming dick the puny white males in the west can't compete.

>>376494442
From what I've seen this game is getting a ton of praise on here. People are saying 'why is it getting so much hate' when it's literally just Prey 2 babies still buttmad their game was scrapped for something that turned out better than that probably ever would have been.

>>376494371

15%, which is less than half of what Australians get taxed. Aussies get taxed anywhere up to 40%, depending on income bracket - which is absolutely ridiculous. Not sure how ausfags put up with that shit.

>$18 minimum wage
>take home $8
>t-thanks gubment

>>376494480
Because Bethesda doesn't own the rights to System Shock?

>>376494474

Yeah.

Other countries have it worse. Icelanders pay the equivalent of about $7USD for a coffee. Not even trolling.

>>376494371
Depends on province but in BC, let's say min wage which is $22k is taxed 20%

50k (average wage) is taxed 27.5%.

>>376494524
when the fuck did "immersive sim" become a thing anyone said

This game should of had a different name and marketing entirely

No one who recognizes the name cares, it does nothing and I don't understand why do it?

>>376492793
>pc demo

Ate you still living in 1998?

>>376491950
Good, Bethesda's scummy tactics of killing Prey 2 just in order to accuire Human Head should not pay off and any self respecting person should see this, you cannot bitch about games not being faithful to their advertisements (Prey 2 surprisingly didn't look much different from it's CGI trailer, this is especially unique given the times we live in where false advertising is rampant), you cannot bitch about games being dumbed down, not taking enough risks, not changing enough from sequel to sequel and then support the killing of Prey 2 by buying Prey2017.

>>376494648
Is that including sales tax?

>>376494575
>>$18 minimum wage
>>take home $8
You don't get taxed that much on minimum wage. The first 18k isn't even taxed.

>>376494648

Way less than what Aussies get taxed. Still fucked, though. Taxation is theft, especially considering you have no say in what your government does with the money.

>the sequel to a very good unique native american themed FPS was gonna be a bastardized open world parkour shit with cover shooting
>neo-/v/ sees nothing wrong with this

I doubt most of you have even played 2006 Prey, you just want to cry Bethesda

>>376494740
Which is why it always amazes me that people want taxation for anything that isn't a universal good - literally something that will benefit every last person (essentially only military defense on the federal level).

>>376494673
Immersive sim was coined either by Looking Glass (who made System Shock and Thief) or by people to describe those games. It's been around since at least the late 90s if not earlier.

You know this is it, right? This is it for Machine Games and Arkane?

Here's the thing: Dishonored 2 did -okay- but still underperformed based on Bethesda's stnadard. It's a great game, but money talks. Now we have Prey, a game that's great but is a total failure in sales. That's two titles in a row from Arkane that couldn't have been cheap to make, both of which are great and highlight what Arkane do best. Yet both are commercial slumps. Failures, even.

Watch Wolfenstein: The New Colossus fail too. Despite the critical and commercial success of both The New Order and The Old Blood, this one will fail commercially. It'll be a great game, just watch. It'll be what fans of The New Order want. And it'll fail.

And with that Bethesda will pull the plug on these kinds of games from Arkane and Machine Games for good. Enjoy them while they last.

>>376494294
You can find a list but a couple came out just in the second half of last year alone:
August 2016 - Deus Ex Mankind Divided
Sept 2016 - Bioshock collection
Nov 2016 - Dishonored 2

I don't think it's the type of genre that most people want to play that frequently, and besides like some anon said above, it's just an FPS to the general public ( and one that people have no idea what it is and why they would want to buy it)

>>376491950
So is this game worth playing if I enjoyed Bioshock but not so much 2 / 3?

Saw some gameplay on youtube and it looked okay, but not worth $80.

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How many months do you think we're talking before the game can be found for €13?

>>376491950
>Sales are incredibly low
You don't know. No one talks about sales anymore, and steam is just 1 smallest platform.
>given their mass advertising by paying youtubers and streamers for positive coverage this is quite a surprise.
You can buy all relevant youtubers and streamers for 150k. The real costs are tv ads

>>376494774
>native american themed
The only thing native american was the character there was no theme

>>376493978
>Do you not know the term "immersive sim
The buzzword to decribe games with shit gameplay consisting of walking around for most of play time?

>>376492420

It is the closest we have had to a proper Shock game since System Shock 2 you faggot, it's a genuinely good game. Arkane never do anything but worshipping LGS but they do it decently enough

>>376494726
Sales tax is 12%

>>376494740
How much do Aussies get taxed?
For us most of the money goes to our natives :)

>>376494821
I sincerely wonder who the hell plays games and still pays for cable TV. I haven't had cable for over a decade at this point - I've been internet only since I got out of college.

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>>376494795
I don't know. If anything Bethesda Softworks would know, based on extended sales of Bethesda's RPG titles, that there is money to be made from long term sales you won't see immediately in the first quarter. We don't really have access to those metrics so we can't guess.

>>376494878
Well, then, knock another 12 percent on top of the 20 percent tax. 1 out of every 3 hours worked is taxed. Fucking insane.

>>376493978
Faggots that are jerking off to Prey are the funniest thing on /v/ atm. It's a trash game that flopped, stop trying to make it into something it isn't.

>>376494859
>he didn't play Deus Ex
>he didn't play System Shock

shitter

>>376492653
I'm not deep in the gaming industry, I know about this game. The lack of knowledge is your problem.

>>376491950
>given their mass advertising by paying youtubers and streamers for positive coverage this is quite a surprise.
My feeling is that they just dumped the game without any media coverage. Maybe it's very low-budget, considering it runs on toaster.

>>376494945
I love it when people talk shit about a game they've never played

>>376494865
If only they would make a Thief clone that's this good then maybe I would care. But instead they made Dishonored, which, while good, isn't Thief.

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>>376492420
Yeah man, I'd much rather get the true PC System Shock experience
Why would I want intuitive controls?

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>>376495026
>Maybe it's very low-budget, considering it runs on toaster.

>>376492153
It's AAA prop hunt.

>>376495065
>he admits to being too stupid to rebind controls
>he'd rather games just remove mechanics than go through a config file or in game configuration menu to change the keybinds

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>>376493627
>the obvious comparisons are dishonored or bioshock
>fallout comparison

wtf nigga

>>376494901
I'm not neet but still a loser living with his parents so I don't actually pay my internet but I hear ISP get way too much money from ads so many will make cable+internet bundles cheaper than internet alone.
Plus it's nice to have tv for background noise.

>>376494803
And then look up how many of these type of games came out since 2013
>Deus Ex
>Dishonored
>Prey
How the fuck they are even remotely similar barring some abstract design decisions.

>>376492326
This. But judging by replies /v/ sure likes their Wildlands and Battlegrounds dominating charts.

>>376495128
are you actually defending SS's controls? even with the mouselook mod it's still bad

>>376495007
>system shock
This buzzword didn't exist back then.
>Deus Ex
Well most of gameplay aspects of it were kinda shit and you had to walk around a lot.

>>376493636
i remember first playing system shock 2 when i was quite young only to give up halfway through @ the Rickenbacker stage but eventually i came back 10 yrs later and finally appreciate the game to its full glory

>>376493614
That specific shotgun is a day one DLC coded item.
Which doesn't mean diddle shit because it is the exact same as the normal shotgun. It's just called something different and is gold plated.

>>376494791
healthcare, schools, roads, emergency services

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>>376491950
>playing singleplayer games
>2017

>>376495219
>this is the average /v/tard today

>>376495189
It does have a lot of controls but yes, I don't understand why people can't even bother customizing controls to be comfortable. Some of those (like turning and looking up and down) aren't even necessary and are done with the mouse with the mouselook mod. If you remove those you can get it to more or less standard FPS controls with a few extra keys.

>>376495221
>That specific shotgun is a day one DLC coded item.

It's not though.
I've recycled that riced crap as soon as I had the chance.

>>376495219
>This buzzword didn't exist back then.

I'm pretty sure it did. It just applied to Ultima Underworld.

>>376495274
Nice arguments.

>>376492219
>Everyone steals it
>Sales actually go down
Make my words.

>>376495268
>playing ASSFAGGOTS and early access™ KOTH games
>2017

>>376495306
Except that it was a dungeon crawler.

>>376495290
So a game NOT requiring 3 hours of rebinding means it's consolised trash?

>>376495153
I use a roku with Pandora for background noise. Rokus can be had for under 30 bucks, although its worth splurging to get a stick, at least.

I've never missed cable, not even for minute. If you don't have an interest in sports, then there's nothing to miss that Hulu or next-day streaming can't cover.

Thats it for System Shock 3 i guess.. guys over at Starbreeze looks at Prey sales figures and says nope this isn't working out, lets pull the plug before its too late

>>376495239
Not everyone needs the same kind of health care. Not everyone uses roads. Some people opt for private schools. Emergency services is fair, but should be more of a state level thing.

>>376495268
What do you play?

I haven't heard anyone who cares about this game, that being said, people just watch single player stuff on YouTube these days

>>376495430
Or they might try to make a game that isn't shit.

>>376495394
It doesn't take 3 hours to rebind keys. And this entire conversation is pointless anyway since a modern game with the amount of mechanics that SS has wouldn't be using its exact key layout since its default is outdated, along with a lot of other games that even came after it like Thief and Deus Ex.

I'm not even the guy you initially replied to.

I bought TiTS the 3rd

prey marketers going in and complaining about weebs buying TiTS the 3rd were funny, though. It was probably embarrassing for Todd to have his newest Bethesda game racing neck-and-neck with a decade old Falcom game on Steam Top Sellers.

>>376495296
I didn't. I already upgraded it before I found one of the actual shotguns like 5 mins later.

>>376495394

I'm not that guy but he is saying that if you take the 10 minutes of your life to rebind controls in a old game you will experience something with a modern feel but with the good parts of old games

How is that better than a console game that may or may not allow you to rebind at all or only use presets?

>>376495589
but Prey has fully rebindable keys?

>>376495648
Im not the guy who called Prey consolized trash, the PC version is probably the best. I didn't play it yet but that's the one I would buy. A PC game cannot release without keybind options these days.

just saying what we take for granted today as standard can be applied to old games so even plebs like you can enjoy them. Trust me its worth it

>>376491950
The name did the damage. Every time it was brought up , the previous prey had to be mentioned, which either reminded you of the game that never was or, if you're a young pal, implored you to look that story up.

But also fuck this tortanic shit. The game is doing fine for a middle of the road AAA game.

>>376494941
That dude with black eyes looked so hot on the first game, what happened to him?

>>376495648
You can't rebind keys for mechanics a game doesn't have because they were removed to "streamline" it.

hmm I wonder why it's flopping on PC
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/arkanes-president-claims-that-the-team-did-not-have-time-for-a-pc-demo-claims-that-steams-refund-policy-works-as-one/#more-98422
huh

>>376495791
I highly doubt that demos are as effective anymore. In fact they are more likely to reduce sales because you can't bamboozle people to buy the game blindly with them. Then again, refund achieves the same effect and people who can't buy the game to refund it later wouldn't buy it in the first place according to logic.

>>376495791
Yeah I don't think I would of played so many demos back in the day if each had a 60 dollar deposit and potential bank delays.

>>376495736
>The game is doing fine for a middle of the road AAA game.
It sold worse than Prey 2006 so far while being on one more platform than that game. That's also the physical console sales, which are going to be the most.

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game reminds me of when I bought dead space 1 on release day in the sense that i enjoyed it enough to not regret paying 60 dollars for it, which is rare

pretty good game overall even if the ending was fucking retarded

>>376495873
problem with steam's refund is I don't want my money back in steam bucks, I want a refund in actual hard currency I used to buy the product with. this is great for people who keep cash in steam wallet regularly, but I don't.

wait, nu-Prey is out?
I haven't even seen a gameplay video yet, last I remembered they just released a CGI trailer.

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>>376495468
multiplayer games

>>376491950
>Will Bethesda revise their review policies do you think after this financial failure?
sure, they'll make tes6 with even more casual shit.

>>376492857
None of that gets the word out nearly as well as pirating does.

Same as how nobody noticed about dishonored 2 release, or mirrors edge 2 release

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>>376495219
>system shock
>buzzword

>>376496357
Don't be retarded, anon. Read the whole line before posting.

>>376495960
for me, it's always sent back directly to paypal

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>>376493310
Please tell me it's possible to turn off the stupid damage indicator, quest markers and all that shit from the middle of the screen. I like the interface to be as subtle as possible.

>>376496732
Quest maerkers yes, but not the rest sadly, hopefully with the next patch.

>>376496732
Oh, look. An FPS that was worth a shit.

>>376492740
why won't he just get the surgery?

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>>376496812
>Alien Isolation
>FPS
retard

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>>376496942

>First Person Survivator

What's the problem here?

>>376494185
For a regular cup it's a dollar fiddy at Starbucks too. 2 bucks for an ice coffee.

>>376491950
No. What they'll probably do is blame the devs, lay them off or fire them, then do it all over again till something makes money

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>>376496979

I had no idea this game came out until like 2 days ago. Did they advertise this at all?