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Why does this man not have a character that can counter him?

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Why does this man not have a character that can counter him?
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Soldier 76 is his only counter.
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>>376477918
>>376477945
Reaper can chip his health down in seconds
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>reaper

>sombra

"Hanzo
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>>376477918
what is s76 reaper and tracer to an extent
also zarya bubbles and barriers
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>>376477918
Besides Rein, D.Va, Zarya, Pharah, or even Orisa?
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Let's play "Spot The Noobs"
Secondary win conditions are "Bastion is OP" and "I main Mercy"
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>>376477918
Just play Mercy and laugh at him.
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>>376477945
>>376478015
>>376478040
>>376478057
>>376478079

Any of them make one mistake and it's over for them while they try to whittle him down
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>>376477918
Funny because I lose games when someone on my team picks him because they think they're some superstar carry.
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>>376477918
Widowmaker
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>>376478159
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Ana was supposed to counter his healing

If Reaper could Wraith while stunned he'd be an actually effective counter.
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>>376478178
he's pretty OP 1v1, but his 1 kill here 1 kill there doesn't do shit for the team win
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>>376477918
Pick Zen, watch his hp essentially coming down to 400, poor roadhog is afraid to leave his house now.
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>>376478231

He isn't OP lmao.
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junkrat

>bait hook
>unload a clip on the massive hitbox
>mine as he heals
ded
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>>376478159
Soldier can kill him from afar so you have less to worry about regarding his hook. This is also assuming you aren't shit and aren't missing half your shots
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>>376477918
its called getting good retard.
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Posting your rank is required before bitching about roadhog
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>>376477918
>not being a god at Hanzo or Cree
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>>376477918
Tracers really good at fucking with him
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>bait hook
>hog is now free ult charge unless he lands a bullshit point-blank m2
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>>376477918
>Not going mei.
>Not dancing around him spamming "Hello!" while he misses every shot of his puny 4 ammo because of your well timed ice walls and self-freeze.
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>>376478312
Where do I get a good retard now that you're busy?
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>>376478279
lurking behind corners and picking people off with hook is an easier kill than with most heroes
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>>376478370
I'm sure that works in diamond.
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>>376478015
>Reaper
>Hog counter

LMAO
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>>376478279
>He isnt OP
My fucking ass he isnt OP
He can kill most of the cast with one shot up close
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>>376478159
Hanzo is a sniper. If you get killed by a distant hog, you're fucking retarded.
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>>376478471
Well yeah beause you're shit, sorry.
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>>376478471
>letting a hog get close enough to one shot you
oh wait lemme guess you couldnt bait his hook
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>>376478535
No its a fact that he kills most of the characters with one hit. Thats his damage output. This has nothing to do with skill thats how hes designed
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>>376478594
IT's the fact you're also shit.
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>>376478459
As long as you're not retarded about it, reaper can easily kill him. He's designed to surprise enemies. Get behind him and attack especially if he already used his hook.
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>>376478669
Good post my lad. Good argument hehe :)
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>>376478594
>has nothing to do with skill
>is a shitter

Huh really makes me ponder
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>>376478235
This

I play a lot of roadhog, Zen is the only character that makes me switch
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>>376478594
He can only 1 hit you if you're a dumbass 200hp tgats tryimg to take him on within his optimal range.
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>>376478669
Not an argument.
You can go ahead and keep defending your character that takes ZERO skill to play.
Fuck, even widowmaker is harder to play than someone with a self-heal and a one-shot kill set-up that works on most of the cast.
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>>376478785
>>376478235

this, zen is fucking annoying as fuck especially if the enemy team also has a roadhog
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>>376478696
And as long as you're not a retarded Roadhog, no Reaper will ever kill you.
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I agree his fundamental design is badly flawed (durr what class should this character of whom all his skills revolve around killing be?...a tank of course, so slap on that 600hp), but if he's single handedly ruining your team, its because your dps is awful. Every single time his fat ass ever steps into view, everyone should be railing into him. His head hitbox is enormous, and he has to stand still for at least 1 full second to do it Anytime he hooks outside of a barriers protection, he should be dead or nearly dead after finishing it. All it takes is 1 competent soldier or mccree to do this.

Likewise, if he's flanking you by himself, everyone should just turn and run him over. For example, a common strat I see in low tier games on Hollywood is his entire team will be standing on the point defending, whereas he'll be on the other side of the choke near the stairs by himself throwing out hooks off cooldown. The attacking team will just sit at the choke petrified of dying to him if they go forward and inevitably lose, when they could easily just make him explode since its 1v6 and he has no one protecting him.
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>>376477918
Every post I see on here about Overwatch has to be like sub gold or something, you can literally just pick Zarya and focus Roadhog completely. I wouldn't expect awful players to know that.
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>>376478235
Might have been true before orb of discord was nerfed, is completely untrue now.
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I like when you're playing hog 1v1 another hog and he hooks you first and you just blast him
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>>376478040
Can Sombra take him down in the few seconds she has before his heal and hook are available again?
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>>376478928
>play mccree
>enemy has roadhog
>PLINK PLINK PLINK PLINK PLINK PLINK
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>>376478876
Zen makes Roadhog players play better, they are less aggressive and play safe
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>Pick Bastion
>Wait for his slow, lumbering fat ass to try to get into range
>Unload 300 bullets into his huge hitbox
>Can also heal if you get hooked
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>>376478860
I don't play roadhog and every person that bitches about roadhog is always fucking gold or plat.
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>>376478796
His optimal range is anything less than extreme long-range, and thanks to the way maps are built he can easily position himself somewhere where you can only hit him if you're within hook range.
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>>376477918
Fucking love playing against Roadhogs.
They're like giant sacks of free ult charge most of the time.
And when they play it safe and only pop out for a hook attempt, they feel like no threat at all.

Not often do I actually feel like I'm playing against a good roadhog. But fuck me when that does happen.
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They fix his hook yet? Haven't played in a while.
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>>376478594
So can bastion you dense baiter
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>>376477918
even this autist can counter a roadhog, only baddies are worried about him
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People need to git gud the thread edition
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>>376477918
Roadhog counters roadhog.
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>>376477918
>DVA
>Orisa
>Rein
I'd say reaper but close quarters against hog with a squishy character is suicide. Soldier has an adcantage at long range, but if hog can advance in cover he can kill soldier easily. Hog doesn't have a hard counter like winston v genji, but he also doesn't contribute as much to a team fight like a rein for example.
>TLDR no hard counters multiple soft counters.
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>>376479090
oh man let me just sit here and let Symmetra M1 me in the face without doing anything, it's not like I have a shotgun with huge spread and a hook combo.
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>>376479121
>tfw 15% average accuracy

How do I git gud?
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>>376478159
>moving the flagpole
You asked for roadhog counters. Now learn to use them.
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Can we talk about more important things like how fucking bullshit earth shatter is?
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JUST
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>>376479019
>potg is me on McCree doing this to Hog as he tries to run behind cover
>says he's reporting me for hacking
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>>376478941
Discord + a fully charged shot still does enough damage to make ebin skilled hook man fuck off
>>376478040
This, pick sombra and target him only, it works wonders and fucks up their team composition. You can also repeatedly shoot nyquil at him with Ana and have the same effect
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>>376478471
Widow can kill most of the cast from afar with one shot. She's not OP either.
Hell, REAPER can one shot half the cast and he's trash.
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>>376478471
Widow can also one shot half the cast, but thats none of my business
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>>376478280
Back when I played this junkrat was by far my favorite character and could absolutly bully whole teams on certain maps
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>>376479196
Reinhart in general is bananas

Also his Earthshatter doesn't need to do that much damage. In fact it really doesn't need to do damage at all
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>>376478187
Hilariously this, headshot is 300 damage, and roadhog attracts shitters who overextend constantly
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>>376479174
Guessing you are not smart enough to bait the hook and dodge like a normal human being, the hook is only on a slightly shorter CD then her shield
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>Float out of range of hook
>Shotgun spreads to much to do any real damage
>Pelt with rockets
>Also easiest to hit with concussive blast
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>>376478057
>mccree and road supposed to counter tracer
>tracer's can out of the fucking blue does a blink the moment you attempt to flashbang/hook her, even when she doesn't notice your existence. Bonus points for her surviving hook combo cause lol spread.
If they are gonna have a "hard counter" system, at least make it work consistently dammit.
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>>376479259
See the thing about Widow is that she has 1/3rd of the hp, gets countered hard, and you have to actually be good at predicting shots and managing your ammo unlike Hanzo.
That and you have to be precise. With roadhog you just look in someone's general direction, use your broken as fuck hook hitbox and secure a kill. There's no skill or effort involved.
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>>376478471
I know everyone has already said it but he's really not op, he seems op when he walks around a corner and kills you, maybe you should adjust the way you play so that you don't die to hooks all the time
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>>376479187
Practice
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>>376479019
>1v1 time as mccree vs road
>neo roll to dodge a hook during furious combat
>take him out
Most satisfying shit next to getting a high noon that kills more than 2 people.
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>>376478360
>2 skills
>4 shots
If you managed to bait 4 shots out like that it's because it was a bad Roadhog, not because you're a good Mei.
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Hooks symmetra

"projecting a barrier"


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT


eliminated
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>>376478910
It's all situational. The best roadhog player will still die by a reaper at some point given the circumstance. 1v1 with the roadhog being aware of reaper, probably not. but then again why would reaper fight roadhog 1v1 when he knows your there. It's a team based game. You nigger them to your advantage.
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>reinstall OverWatch
>Pharmercy is still a thing, and is still overpowered trash
>uninstall OverWatch
Good to see Blizzard cares.
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>>376477918

Is this a joke? Tracer and S76 counter hog easy.
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>>376479196
Earthshatter is retarded. I don't even understand how it hits me when I'm well past the cracks and I'm also fucking elevated.
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>>376479714
Here's a change that will fix it
>rockets now do less damage the more distance they traveled, up to a max reduction of 75% damage.
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>>376479090
Symmetra counters everything these days, that fucking cheap overpowered autistic curry cunt. Here let me just zap all of your HP without aiming as I run circles around you. Fucking send her back to the designated shitting streets.
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>>376479340
>my entire argument is Roadhog being a moron

I love these.
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>>376478796
Roadhog can kill Zarya with a Hook+M1+Melee combo. One second and she goes from full health to dead. Orisa goes to critical health from the same combo, as does Winston and Reinhardt.

>stay out of his optimal range!

So stay more than 20 meters from him and hope you can dink him enough before the healer rides his ass and/or he huffs his bong and pray he doesn't come toward you.
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>>376479714
Pharmercy is only overpowered if you have hitscans that can't do their job. Team based game, you wouldn't try to solo kill them.
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>>376479646
Love blizzards rework philosophy:
>what do we do?
>Fuck it, give em a shield
>PERFECT
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>>376479714
>Have a competent widowmaker or mei
>never an issue

The game is full of bullshit combos like that though, I won't complain
>Get frozen by Mei then get stuck with Tracer's ult
>Genji + Zenyatta ulting at the same time
>Zarya ult + Tracer's ult
>Mcree + Mei ulting
>Widowmaker + Bastion ulting
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>>376479714
There is far worse things in this game.
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>>376479860
>I'm upset when someone is better than me so I cry that roadhog is broken
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now lets all be objective here, pic related needs a definite buff

>m1 barely slows and no damage
>ice block has too long of a CD
>Ult needs to freeze things for longer

she just needs the buff hammer
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>>376477918
I guess this is why he has a 100% pickrate at every rank... Oh wait, he doesn't
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>>376479827
earthshatter has a hit of 3m up which is being nerfed to 2m soonish.
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>>376479568
>hook and kill mcree
>hook and kill mcree
>mcree is now actively seeking me out
>hook and kill mcree
>writes in chat how Roadhog is OP bullshit
>hook and kill mcree
>mcree is now ignoring all of my teammates and goes around looking for me
>hook and kill mcree
>angry gibberish in chat
>mcree ragequit
It was a good game
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Overwatch players are so fucking stupid. You're not supposed to be able to 1v1 a fucking deterrence tank you mouthbreathing retards. Oh yeah he doesn't have a gigantic barrier, that must mean I should be able to solo him as any DPS I want to be right? No idiot, you need teamwork so grab a friend or two and plug into this fat ult battery and stop bitching.

Fucking downies, I'm so glad I uninstalled this piece of shit.
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>>376479837
>"we extended her range just a little bit"

>die with no enemies nearby, waiting to see Widowmaker's killcam
>it's Symmetra just zippity zap zopping me
Who asked for this buff?
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>>376479916
>Team based game
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>>376479090
Jumping left and right like a autist does nothing against a Roadhog that just one shots your life away, just cause it worked a few times in QP doesn't mean it's a legit counter
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>>376480024
Thank Christ I can't count the number of times my ult was stuffed because of a bullshit earthshatter that was no where near me
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>>376477918
Because Overwatch is a shit balanced game, and it will never be fixed; as keeping it ever so slightly fucked will keep a steady supply of players who will drip in Everytime "balance has been tweaked"
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>>376479832
It's a rocket, why would their be fall damage? What they need to do is take out blowback from her regular rockets since she already has one specifically for that. Or at least reduce the shit out of it cause it's rather annoying to be bouncing around by the aoe.
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>>376479990
Please explain how someone with an always guaranteed kill set-up on 80% of the cast isn't broken.
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>>376479995
>m1 barely slows and no damage
Isn't the point to freeze and right click people to do damage? Also I guess it could have a better slow but then a hit storm's gonna brew.
>ice block has too long of a CD
You can do that if you don't need a bastion + 2 or the whole entire team shooting at the ice blocks to take them out.
>Ult needs to freeze things for longer
If you're gonna do that make sure if I'm basically 10mm away from escaping I can fucking walk out of it and not get frozen for 5 secs.
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really anyone can counter road, once his hook is on CD you have that window to kill him, cause most Roads will NOT hit you with out the hook combo
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>>376480121
I just wish they'd just fix rein's hammer swing, 1/3 of his swings will miss even when their right next to him.
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>>376478280
>clip
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>been multiple months
>I'm still the only person I know who is able to play Sombra effectively

I love seeing a roadhog on the enemy team. Free ult charge and easy kills.
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>>376480101
You must be gold.
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>>376479832
Tbh I think she's at her best when she's really close to people. At that range it takes little skill to direct impact, you only take like 20 splash dmg from it, its much harder for the hitscan to hit you, let alone out dps you to the kill, and when its over you can just boop yourself away. I think her jets need to be made louder and splash damage to herself be increased to discourage using her in very close quarters (shouldn't close quarters explosions be junkrats thing?)
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>>376477918
only counter is Mei with someone helping
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>>376479995
Mei is absolutely terrifying in the right hands though

>Can fuck up choke-points by freezing people
>Can counter snipe widowmaker, hanzo and ana
>Can pick off healers exclusively
>Can use the wall to fuck up other ults and stop roadhogs from hooking, or make other ults damn near useless
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>>376480348
Main issue with fighting road is up-close his shotgun does a shitton of damage and you're fucking toast if you're in the right-click sweetspot.
So you literally have to be pretty far away with your spacing to take him out if your below 400 hp to not get fucked up.
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>>376479990
>see Symmetra
>hook
>kill

This is the equivalent of what you did.
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>>376478970

Yea, you just have to not PANIC, aim for his head, and don't miss, for a full 8 or so seconds.

just make sure you have your teleporter and escape route ready and planned in case you fuck up
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>>376479029
>mfw I get hooked, but I unload into his head in recon mode and he runs away like a bitch
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I've taken down hogs as genji.
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>>376480434
>tfw literally never died to a Sombra unless they just finished me off at critical HP from a previous fight
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>>376480434
I need to figure out how to git gud with sombra.
She's so effective for fucking over select targets
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>>376480434
Nobody gives a shit about Sombra to want to effectively play her, especially when the only dps being played is COD man
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>>376480626
>press e and shift
>win

Really make u thinks
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>>376480563
>just 8 seconds
This is why Sombra is shit
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>>376480434
Quick question: should you ever single hack a enemy ever or only use it on health packs?
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>>376479995
Do people not realize that this is a team game and not ALL of the characters have to be able to put out a lot of damage?
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>>376480702
>tfw people think Genji is the highest skill cap character or even high at all
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Every single character in the game is shit and the others are broken, they need nerfs.
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>>376480563
>8 seconds of headshots
Truly a hard counter
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The problem isn't him but the map design

Range is one of his weakness but since every map is clusterfuck chokeholds he dominates there are some open lanes but theres plently of cover for him to duck off into

Reducing his hook cooldown was needed as it was being abused quite obnoxiously however i think the hooks range needs to be reduced slightly

When roadhog was hooking people through multiple walls it should have been the obvious that perhaps its too long
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>>376480759
Hack the person your team is focusing or about to focus. Or hack a flanker near your team and call it out.
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>>376479196
word, the fact that it is inconsistent and misses a lot on downward slopes (like first point gibraltar) is bs
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>>376480342
>>376480556
>guaranteed
try outplaying the roadhog?
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>>376480702
>tfw people think OW is PC exclusive
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>>376480434
I've got around 30 hours on her, getting better. She's fun as fuck desu my dude.

>no speed delay on the stealth if you teleport immediately after using
UNF
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>>376480563
Sombra's hack doesn't last that long. You'll have to dodge the hook, which isn't exactly hero dependent.
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>>376480831
>go on quickplay
>every game has a genji
>90% of the time they get POTG
Logistically I think he doesn't need skill at that point if everyone can do decent as him.
Bonus points for blizz removing "advance" techniques from him like climbing up a wall resetting your double jump.
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>>376480759
Not that guy, but if there is a semi competent Zarya on the other team, hack her. I swear to christ if I had a dollar for every time some nigger Sombra just ran around hacking the worst health pack spawns and tickling the other team's assholes with her pathetic pea shooter while Zarya plows through our team with her bubble shield bullshit, I'd have enough money to fly around the country and slap every one of those fuckers in person.

>>376481037
I don't remember what those attacks are mapped to on PS4/Xbone. Also
>playing OW on console
>playing FPS on console

why the fuck are queue times so much better on console though
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>>376480713
>>376480858
>>376481069

I have fun news for you guys, the reason I said "8 seconds or so" was because I couldn't really remember how long it lasts so I decided to look it up, It's actually 6 seconds from what I found via google.I really hope I'm wrong
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>>376480831
I kinda do, cause there is no match up where he comes out on top easily unless the enemy plays like shit i.e. Not being able to shoot him when double jumping which still happens in GM for some reason and being fucking stupid enough to shoot into a defensive ability like deflect
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>>376481191
That's still an eternity in FPS time.
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>>376481065
Imagine if you could stick tele on to walls. You could go full portal mode bullshit.
>stick tele on wall behind enemy team
>jump from great height
>use that speed to tele through, going fucking fast horizontally
>ult in the middle of them while flying.
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>>376480564
How do you survive being hooked and shot point-blank? Hog eats Bastion's health as easily as he eats everyone else's.
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>ITT: People talking down less skilled people for not having grown that psychic ability born from internalizing typical hero behavior.

When I decide to be the fun police and play Roadhog, the only time anyone has survived the combo when I do it is when it's Reinhardt, a Lucio or a Tracer if I fuck it up. Everyone else melts and I die a little bit more inside before switching back to either Mercy, Mei or Rein.
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>>376481583
I assume it's because they're retarded and shoot too early or something, but I dunno I usually survive the first shot
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>>376477918
>overmeem
lol
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>>376478159
That's true for almost any hero though. Widow, soldier or Mcree counter pharah hard but if they miss, its over for them.
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why do players try to use 1v1 or even 1v1+x scenarios to balance heroes in a team game.

The whole skill cliff is getting your team to not be retarded and focus fire threats.
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>>376482882
Because the "Mercy is garbo" meme would die without it.
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>>376482882
Because 95% of Overwatch players couldn't work as a team if their lives depended on it.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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