Just came out. /V/erdict?

>Mixed reviews on Steam

Guessing its trash

how come all these strafe threads keep getting deleted?

It's poopoofartfart

>>376472117
>friends with the game's creator on facebook
>has spent the past week in pre damage control, whining about reviewers getting copies too early and that patched bugs were going to negatively effect the game's scores
>makes a post today crying about how "trolls" were bombing the game's steam page with "fake" negative reviews to pull the game's average down, his evidence being that they all had the same complaints
I already didn't like the guy but this week has cemented his complete douchery in my eyes.

>finally get to second area
>giant tree spitting out those acid stars
>light it up with a grenade launcher, nothing happens
>3 stupid gamefuel stars fly right at my face and kill me

great game for hardcore gamers like me FUCK CoD!

>>376471931
it's garbage
here's a magnet link for the GOG version out of spite
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3C5F3A34FBDB5C24B62C22E4843DCDEB43E1DF85

>>376472197
last one went to 500+ posts and fell off the board

>>376472117
It's been tumbling down since release, every time I refresh the store page the percentage gets lower

>>376472651
Thanks, I had a passing interest in this game, but the negative reception made me hold onto my cash

>>376472651
>V0.666

So it actually is the release build?

>>376472896
yes, it's ironically edgy on purpose

>>376472438

I think the dev is legitimately mentally ill

>>376472956
Ah okay, thought it was some beta build.

>>376471931
Its good.
Dont know what the fuck people were expecting.

Its a procedural generated fps.
Sure the game has a learning curve but so do all these fucking games.

EtG, issac and what have you.

Having fun learning how to git gud

>>376472961
I don't want to say too much because it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's browsing this thread right now, but I'll say this - I've only interacted with him in person a few times and he gave off a terrible impression when I did. The way he acts on social media is even worse and just confirmed my suspicions about him.

>>376473654
Makes me feel less shitty about pirating it.

Will get it on sale though

>>376471931
>attempt to recreate 90s graphics
>look like a nauseating minecraft engine knock off
>enemies look like fisher price toys and tumble about when shot with out of place gore

Haven't touched it yet and I don't think I'll even bother pirating.

does this game have any roguelike elements beyond perma-death and randomized levels?

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>/V/
these devs are extremely aggressively viral marketing

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/376425132

they're even sperging out on twitter and pretending that the retard who spent 5 hours making 2000 character posts about why his game isn't shit and why he isnt a shill wasn't a dev and was just "someone trying to make them look bad"

the game is third rate shovelware, you can pirate the gog version if you really want but it's not even worth the download.

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>>376471931
Not Call of Duty enough.

>>376474209

You mean item identification, grid based and tick based combat? No.

>>376472197
advertising is not allowed on 4chan

>>376474358
>astoturfing
The fuck?

>>376473396
>people hate the game because it's hard
hi @STRAFEgame

>make the bunnyhopping not shit
>add a walljump
>remove fall damage
>add fucking monster sounds for christ sake
>weapon pickups need to be refillable
>make it so you don't spawn in and then immediately 50 enemies aggro you
Bam, now it's at least a 7.5/10

>>376474474
astroturfing*

>>376474580
alternatively, they could have sold it for a reasonable price, say $10 (which I'd then wait for it to drop to $1-3)

>>376474519

Didnt say it was hard you faggot

>>376474580
>just completely change the movement model and everything about the levels, no biggie
nah this game is confined to the shitheap

>>376474358
>link to fireden
>4chan archive that makes no obvious mention of being a 4chan archive in the linked thread
>we dont use 4chan
>supposed to believe that a redditor who doesn't use 4chan knows what fireden is

are these retards serious

>>376474358
What the fuck is astroturfing and why would he give a fuck about what happens here?

>>376474735
If they're not completely fucking retarded they could put in a week's worth of time and actually make the game worth its pricetag right now. Although I probably would have bought it now if it were 10 dollars, definitely 5, but not 20.

So, why would I play this instead of Ziggurat?

>>376474405

what about "roguelike" elements, like item unlocks, multiple characters, different routes with different bosses, some form of persistent progression between runs, stuff like that?

>>376474882
its when you pretend to be a normie to pump up your game
convince 1 person on /v/ to buy your game that's five bux in the bank, there's no reason not to try

>>376474875
implementing quake movement into another game is usually a 10 minute job, you could even copy the fucking original C code from quake and it'll more or less work as is

>>376474881
>Mentions /v/ directly
>"WTF how did he know about muh sekret club??"
Is it summer already?

>>376474882

You could google the word.

>>376474963

Have you ever played a roguelike? None of those are roguelike elements.

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I bought this game and played 10 minutes..
mfw i've anticipated this for over 2 years

>>376474436
tell that to the cemu guys

>>376474998
I tried talking about strafe a few days ago and didn't even get 5 replies, why do people suddenly care about this game that hasn't been out 12 hours?

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Post YFW you didn't fund this on Kickstarter. (Yes this was funded on Kickstarter btw)

>>376475061
hi @STRAFEgame

>>376474881
Well, they also mention /v/ in the tweet.

/v/ aint exactly unheard of. 200- shit, what, 4? is a long ways away

>>376472438
>>376472961
>I think the dev is legitimately mentally ill

This honestly wouldn't shock me. The game started off as a "homage" to games from 1996 then they started their ad campaign which was wildly inaccurate so there was some backpedaling claiming it was satire then once everyone pointed out it was not really similar at all to games from 1996 they just completely abandoned to claim. Now they are trying to separate the ad campaign from the actual games content. That in combination with the obvious as fuck viral marketing on /v/, it wouldn't shock me at all if he was mentally ill. One of the marketers was actually losing his shit on /v/ the other day rabidly defending the game far beyond what I've seen any autist fanboy do on here. The whole thing is just crazy.

>>376475041
have you tried it?
Feel free to right now and get back to me, it should only take about 10 minutes

the other half of it ofc is that a different movement model changes the balance of a game: if you make jumps that are hard but doable and then give the player 5% more jump impulse you completely fuck up those jumps

>>376475243
because trainwrecks are fun

>>376474898
Cause this has GORE, GUNS, AND GEXPLOSIONS.

Have fun with your little faggy wand game

I do like ziggurat tho

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>GITGUD meme
Nice Defence Devs

>>376471931
Daily reminder that roguelike is code for "We're not talented enough to make interesting and fun levels so here's some randomly generated bullshit."

>>376475067

>Have you ever played a roguelike? None of those are roguelike elements.

they aren't elements of games that genuinely resemble rogue but they are elements of games that are habitually referred to as "roguelike" like binding of isaac, enter the gungeon, neurovoider, spelunky, flinthook, rogue legacy, darkest dungeon, immortal redneck, ziggurat, etc.

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>>376475254
Like poetry.

I'm digging it. Could definitely use some patching out the ass though

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>>376475102
This is my situation so far too, although I played about an hour and a half.
The combat feels weightless, the sound design is rather weak besides the OST, and I'm already bored of fighting the same melee enemies over and over.
Don't know whether to refund it or not.

>>376471931
The top steam review says the guns and physics are unsatisfying, the level design is procedural (automatically shit), and the monster AI boils down to "run directly at player".

That combined with the fact that Quake has better graphics pretty much kills it. Had a fun teaser trailer though.

>>376471931
I like it. /v/ is full blown retarded as usual.

>>376475480

But none of those games are roguelikes. They are called that for marketing reasons but most are also accompanied with tags like roguelite or roguelikelike. They are a completely different genre and usually an excuse for no talents to not have to design interesting levels. The only people who refer to them as roguelikes are the developers who try to trick buyers with lehardcore reputation of roguelikes and newfags who never heard of a roguelike until BoI came out.

All the things you listed were the exact opposite of what make a roguelike, like persistant progression.

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>Market game as from 1996
>Absolutely looks and plays nothing like a shooter from 1996

Quality.

>>376475787
it plays almost exactly like quake 2
that's a bad thing

>>376473021
it is a beta build, release build is 1.0
gog let game go live before steam branch even went live and they had a beta thing the week before already so it looks like gog blew their load too soon

>>376475401
But he's right
I can get to the second level with at least full health and some armor and im playing on a PS4

>>376475749

yes, i know, but you are being pedantic about the term when it doesn't really matter. strafe calls itself a roguelike (or roguelite), and in the modern context that means that it is similar to games like isaac and gungeon, not that it is similar to games like rogue. this is stupid, i agree with you, but it's true.

the consensus seems to be that strafe fails as an old-fashioned fps. the question i'm asking is: does it succeed as a roguelike, in either the accurate sense or the modern, inaccurate sense? because so far it seems like it doesn't have many of the features that people like about those games

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>>376475351
alright faggot, took me under 10 minutes to add quake movement because im not an incompetent shitskin of a programmer
suck my dick dude it's easy and strafe is horrible
https://vid.me/pQb9

>>376476126
>Uploaded on Jan 22, 2017
k

>>376476009
>the modern context

No, the modern context is roguelite. That tag exists for a reason. It's not like true roguelikes disappeared from the market, games like Caves of Qud, Pokemon Mystery Dugeon, Mystery Dungeon in general, are sold for real monies.

By using the word roguelike you're just helping marketers trick people into buying their games. The fact that Strife uses the term Roguelike and not Roguelite should tell you about the integrity of the developer.

>>376476126
Then why don't YOU make a game like this, anon?
Please do I need something to replace the void of disappointment in my heart

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Seriously though who are the chimps reviewing this game on steam? Half of them use aspects of the 90s games it uses to explain why the game isn't 90s enough. Others say it isn't 90s enough and then list its 90s elements as negatives. Most of the remaining gave it a bad review because of the roguellike nature even though the game is literally tagged as roguelike.

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>>376476383
i think @STRAFEgame has schizophrenia

I like it. fuck me right?

I agree the gunfeel is less than optimal, but damn if it doesn't scratch my 90's feel bone.

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>>376476571
its a youtube video, click through
I don't think the game is good dude, it's just silly to suggest that it could be fixed with a 10 minute patch

>>376471931
it's doo doo pee pee.

>>376475908
No it doesn't. It plays like Serious Sam. And yes, THAT is a bad thing.

>>376471931
Broken mess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krxoVBuWCHM

>>376476843
>Serious Sam
>backpeddling forever because enemies only travel straight lines

Nope.

>>376476967
But that's literally all Serious Sam is. The enemies run at you in hordes and you just kite them around while backpedaling until they all die. Then move to the next arena and repeat.

>awful weapon bobbing
>rifle has spread
>UI is unreadable garbage
>rifle has ammo on gun but shotgun doesn't
>shotgun doesn't penetrate
>first life dropped me into a pit that had no way to get out
>beat first level on second life, horrible framerate drops when looking at the stats screen
>die to the first mob of enemies cause I only found like 30HP worth of health items
>have to click twice when empty to reload
>make strafe worse: y/n option in settings

>>376472956
>>376472896
I think thats more of a reference to the DOOM release v1.666

>>376475634
Eat shit you fucking faggot, these devs actually DESERVE credit and you can't fucking help but shit all over them as usual.

>>376476648
>90's feel bone
Wow, that is exactly what the devs said the game wasn't. They've said multiple times in all the threads that that is completely not what they were going for. I've been reading over 1000 replies and anyone defending the game said that isn't what it's supposed to be.

Either you're a shill changing up your tactics, or you are a genuine person and seem to be confused somewhat.

Kinda don't know who is jewing who at this point, but if you read the last thread you will be asking yourself the same question.

>>376476843
>>376476967
Serious Sam is forgivable because it's a joke that doesn't compare it's self to Quake. It also looks nice.

>>376477415
bait, retard, or dev

everyone place your bets.

I wasn't going to refund, but realizing that ammo goes by clip made me. That's fucking retarded.

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>>376477550
100% bait cmon

>>376477618
as mentally unstable as the level designer/main director is said to be, I think it could go either way at this point.

>>376477496
Indeed, and it was basically the first of its kind. It was an ok game for what it did. But all these so called "old school" shooters like Strafe keeping calling themselves similar to Doom and Quake but in reality are just aping Serious Sam and are becoming a problem. It's obvious to me now that they all lack level designers and proper AI developers so they fall into this pit of mindless enemy hordes in arenas rather than carefully crafted labyrinthine levels with smartly places enemies. In other words, these people like the Strafe dev never played Doom or Quake and shouldn't be making games they don't have an understanding of.

>>376476854
Now, a game actually from 1996:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNoPiK7uhw

>>376477229
>>376477496

You backpeddle in J-hooks, not straight lines.

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>>376477776
wow i just fucking missed a get of all gets.

I blame kotaku

>>376477777

>>376477921
fuuuuuuuuuuck, it must have been good.

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>>376473654
I want to know more, what is the rundown.

90's shooters are my favorite but this looks... off. It's just chunky look. Compare to Demon Daggers, which was a pretty alright throwback for what it was

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>>376477858
>@transgamerthink

This is the world we live in for real

>>376477951
wait, i just remember dubs are disabled on /v/ right?

if the levels allowed for more movement and there was better sound design and damage indicators I would be okay with it

currently enemies make no noise so i'm flicking my mouse around every few seconds to look for guys that have aggroed from two or three rooms away and started chasing me

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>>376471931
>1996
>1
>9
>9
>6

>uses more than a gig of RAM
>Main menu idles maxes out CPU core
>no real video settings
>Runs like ass just on the menu
>Horrendous frame rate drops in game
>Clearly bloated as fuck code
>Programming in high level language
>Programmed on fucking UNITY

1996 my ass

They should have just used Quake 1/2 as their code base.

>>376471931
the most disappointing game i've played in the past 3 years.

>>376478021
get the fuck out

>>376478316
Stop posting.

The only question I have for people who have played this game: Has anyone even found a single secret?

>>376474358
>it's not even worth the download.

It's not.

It runs at 2 FPS just on the fucking main menu.

>>376478115
>UNITY
FUCKING UNITY
seriously?

Who the fuck is dumb enough to still make games on Unity? This is exactly why it's a fucktarded idea. I've never seen an Unity release that wasn't an unoptimized heap of shit.

>>376478549
I haven't. Played maybe 10 runs so far and died on the third level each time but never seen any secrets and have no idea what to look for even.

>>376477956
wish this faggot would just sell his shit and let someone make a real game with his game

>>376478801
Shoot the corpse on the sign as you start the game - Dev in a stream

>>376478549
The odd few that I found were completely by accident and I don't even know what the hell I picked up. I'd kill for a simple text log to know what the fuck I picked up half the time.

>>376478561
I dont know where people are getting this. Im getting a constant 60fps in the main menu. The only framerate drops I get are when the game is loading a level mid-game.

Does it have to do with me Dling the .666 version?

>>376477436
No no, I like seeing e1m1, I like the quake bunnyhopping, I like the references. I know it's not the 90's game from the past.

>>376474735
Yup, only thing that's holding me off from buying it. A Roguelike/lite has to be pretty fucking great to get more than 15$ from me.

>>376473654
What the fuck is wrong with you people

>>376474881
Are you retarded

>>376476843
I don't want to spend time on this board anymore

Remember when one of the devs or Devolver guys came here and tried to bribe /v/ with free keys?

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>>376472651
The tutorial was pretty funny, and then you get into the actual game and it's fucking shitty knockoff Serious Sam with claustrophobic bland metal rooms and the weakest weapons I have ever shot. Holy fuck this is aggressively bad.

Pirated version is actually a beta then?

>>376479365
None of those keys worked
Hook line and sinker.

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>Strafecon will never happen again.

>>376475197
This.

>>376479513
Probably because ruskie bots stole them.

>>376471931
it's shit

>One gun with limited ammo
>Pick up weapons actually aren't sufficient enough to compensate for the lack of ammo
>Shitty melee attack barely feels like it does anything

>>376479732
But Marathon came out in 1994.
>tfw noone remembers Marathon.

>>376479689
Whatever keeps the narrative going

>>376479523
Who cares? Stupid fucking shill faggot.

>>376479759
Are people actually having ammo shortage problems? Lmfao. What are you doing?

>>376479732
Blood, DN3D, and Shadow Warrior all have reloading.

>>376479838
>mac-exclusive game
yeah I wonder why

>>376479940
i was generated a level with no crates or vending machines.

>>376480107
No you weren't

Seriously I don't know why all this hate, this game IS NOT BAD ! its a good game, I had a lot of fun as I shoot my way trought a horde of monster that exploded in a blood rain, a lot cons that people give is just because they didnt play enough or they didn't take one sec to learn what the item is about, just to inform you guys the small item that came from the crate are stats upgrade, they give you more accuracy, fire rate,mag capacity and damage, If you can survive longer there is actualy a shop where you can buy plenty of nice thing, I didnt see them all yet but there is a good bunch of it. The wepon are nice too the gunplay is realy responsive, the level generation is better then I expected didn't they could do so much possibilities. I'm not saying that the game is perfect no but so far I didn't have any major issue that could ruin my experience. I think that people are just used to play those codat 120$ for the same crap every year. Honestly for 20$ its defenatly worth the try, it a new and fresh concept created by a small studio that worked hard to bring there ideas and they did a great job. I've seen bigger devs that thrown much worse release then that, no one can lie about that. Thumb up for Pixel Titan !

>>376480167
is this something out of steam forums or reddit or something?

>>376480167
Faggots will actually think this is a shill


You're 14

>>376480148
yes i was. its probably a bug. considering the game's current state.

>Thread on Steam forums asks if the devs will make a non-rogue-like game mode for Strafe.
>First post points to OBLIGE.
>Most of the thread is about OBLIGE.

Cucked on their own Steam forums.

>>376480167
Copypastas are fun

But QUAKE being ignored for this makes me sad

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>>376471931
It's not fast paced, it's a slow crawl.
It has no replay value.
Enemy AI is dumb, looking at you gunbot.

Don't buy it. Maybe if they revamp the gameplay design, because it looks nice.

It's garbage, just like every other game that was viralled on /v/ constantly.

>>376480314
Possibly.

Monster closets that release enemies (red rooms) also contain ammo

got 4 hours out of it today and got to athena

how do you get the teleport things to work? you can skip the first level right?

>>376480363
its not a good game but it delivered on it being fast paced. you can bunny hop to reach high speeds.

>>376471931
It's pretty bad, doesn't help that it runs like fucking garbage
>inb4 bad PC lel
I have a GTX 1070 and a Kabylake i7 6700k. Cry moar.

>>376480356
>Quake being ignored for this makes me sad

What?

A good friend of mines helped make this game and is trying hard to get me to buy it. I'm trying to not be mean and tell him it looks and plays like shit.

It felt so rushed and if love to help support him but the game is so so bad.

>>376480671

Sometimes, the best way to support someone is to tell him or her "no".

>>376472438
got any screencaps?

>>376475908
It plays nothing like quake 2 you cocksucker piece of shit. At least play games before you compare them.

>>376480497
>Pace
>Movement speed
Obviously two different things.

>>376475908
>>376480805
Quake 2 was shit compared to Quake 1. It was casualbabby easy as fuck

Can't wait for the Gggmanlives review.

>>376480107
You can also find ammo occasionally in monster closets. Each one gives a whopping 25 magazines, so I have no idea how the hell you're having shortages for your main gun.

>>376480671
Buy it, support him, but be honest with him about your criticisms. Playing it for yourself to decide what you do and don't like will allow you to help him improve in the future.

>>376481049
Over use of alt fire, I assume.

I'm friends with the guy who made it and he's literally in tears. He's babbling about how hard he tried to earnestly shill it here and how his entire world is falling apart. He regrets his ITT tech degree and wishes he went in for game journalism

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Fucking hell I was excited to get this since the procedural generated maps weren't complete shit but they somehow fucked up the fact it's inspired to feel like a fps game set in 1996.
Oh well what game should I get with $20?

I've known the guy who made it since fourth grade and he's so upset I had to suck his feminine penis just to calm him down.

>>376480907
all SP games are casual
play online like a real man

>first try
>pick shotgun because shotguns are good
>find upgrade booth, no idea what it's going to give me because it's my first playthrough
>shoot at enemy to see what changed
>shot bounces off wall behind enemy and kills me

>second try
>okay fuck that, this time I'm going railgun
>railgun isn't even pixel accurate the heck
>keep wasting ammo trying to pick off those ceiling guys from extreme range
>run out of ammo, die because lmao1gun
sure glad I backed the kickstarter

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>>376481049
>Each one gives a whopping 25 magazines
what the fuck build are you playing, I've never found ammo in a monster closet

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Honestly the graphics are more like the DS, it reminds me heavily of shit like Dementium, not like Quake

>>376481443
oh also the shotgun sucks ass. five foot effective range, which means you're always having to kite monsters into range and chipping HP here and there. totally unworkable in a permadeath game

>>376477840
God damn quake 1 was a bad game.

>>376481641
Yeah, it reminds me of Metroid Prime Hunters graphics. Same HUD too. Not a compliment, that was not a good a MP game.

>>376481206
A copy of Devil Daggers for a superior old school-ish shooter and a copy of Gungeon for a superior roguelike.

>>376471931
is the torrent up for the gog version yet?

>>376481686
How do you have trouble with the shotgun?
>get into a room
>funnel them
>jump over them back and forth and kill their asses
>use your m2 a fucking lot
If you have the explosive upgrade it's extremely easy to beat the game

>>376481823
>>376472651

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>>376481730
>the dev is so fucking assmad from getting BTFO'd that he now hates the game he was trying to cash-in nostalgia bucks on


Holy fucking kek

>>376481774
Gungeon was fucking shit, I was so hyped for that and it ended up being an extremely boring slog. It felt like it was actively trying to avoid copying every good part about nuclear throne and made their game worse because of it.

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>>376481206
Buy Quake 1, drop it in a source port like QuakeSpasm or Darkplaces.
Grab yourself some level packs like Arcane Dimensions or that pack that Flying Wild Hog made last year.

Devil Daggers is also pretty great if you want something recent, but keep in mind it has a completely different set of goals gameplay-wise.

>>376481206
PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS

>>376481952
Fuck dude I pirated that shit a few days ago man, it's great.
>high attention to detail in the level and a decent lighting system for spriteshit
>AMAZING music
>good boss fights
>good character design, even the obvious black girl black guy requirement doesn't feel forced
>amazing animation
>so many fucking guns

But fucking nuclear throne is hot anal garbage that looks like shit and plays like floaty ass.

>>376481970
Don't forget Dimensions of the Past, aka DOPA, aka "Episode 5: Official Expansion"

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>>376481970
>buy quake 1

>>376481875
you can jump over enemies?

>>376482101
Is this bait? NT is the opposite of floaty, the controls are extremely tight. Gungeon is a boring and slow paced mess where you can go an entire run only getting a handful of the weapons, that almost all act exactly the same mind you. It has nice grafics and a couple of good bosses, everything else was poorly implemented.

>>376480719
Said it a few times he even let me at it at his place. It was pretty bad.

>>376482148
The short ones yes.

>>376482132
The guy I was replying to specifically mentioned buying games.
I don't really give a shit about whether or not someone throws Zenimax three dollars for squatting on a classic IP.

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>>376482101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCw80EmuCuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFyooQE22NQ

>>376482287
>nuclear throne feels extremely tight
There is no impact or feedback for anything, the amount of quality in nuclear thrones gunplay is fucking garbage
>all the weapons act the same
have you gotten to the dragun yet dude? Did you just get to floor two, die over and over again because your shit then quit?
>gungeon is slow paced
What the fuck is this meme dude. It's not slow paced at all unless you're shit
>borging
Subjective and not quantifiable.
>couple of good bosses
All of them are good.

im actually kind of disappointed.
i was really looking foward to this.
is there anything redeeming about this besides the music?

>>376471931
>Just came out

When? When you made the last thread this morning?

Fucking advertisers.

>>376481094
I'll think on That, but seriously think there are few good fps games and this isn't one of them. Id like to support him but it kinda goes against my way of thinking when buying games. I really don't like to waste money nor time of something I know isn't worth it.

>>376482502
I don't even think the music is good. It's really bland and generic.

>>376482491
>There is no impact or feedback for anything, the amount of quality in nuclear thrones gunplay is fucking garbage
How to spot bait 101
>have you gotten to the dragun yet dude? Did you just get to floor two, die over and over again because your shit then quit?
Beat it with the non-hidden characters in like 10 hours and never touched it again
The game is slow paced, the weapons are slow, movements are slow, traversing the map is slow, the entire game is an underwater feeling shitfest that only retards (You) enjoy.

>>376474881
>>376475325
>G-GUYS. AM I PART OF THE SHITPOSTING TRAIN, YET?

So much to work with and you still fucked it up so hard. Fucking dipshit.

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>mfw never fell for the meme

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I'm not sure what this option does but since there isn't any way for it to make me spend money on this game I'll assume it does nothing.

>>376474881

It's almost like the acusser mentions /v/ in his tweet! truly that Strafe shill has mind reading habilities.

>>376482101
>nuclear throne is hot anal garbage that looks like shit and plays like floaty ass

Sounds like someone couldn't beat Lil' Hunter.

>>376482101
gr8 b8 m8

>>376482887
It sets the internal rendering resolution to 320x240 or whatever the widescreen equivalent is

>>376482774

Not gonna lie- I am envying you right now.

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>>376483474
remember anon, everything is s h i t. everything.

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>tfw it isnt as good as I thought it would be but I still enjoy it

I mean yeah, there's flaws, and I could nitpick all day about how it actually doesnt resemble a 90's shooter outside of taking ripping lifts and monster closets from Doom, but I can ignore some of the flaws.

Except for fall damage. that one is dumb

does health regen do literally nothing? I spent 150 credits on it and it didn't seem to... regenerate health

>>376481526
What build are YOU playing. They always drop ammo

>>376484285
You just love shit, ain't that right? Can't get enough of it.

I won't refund since I only paid about $8.50 out of pocket for it (had ~$12 in my Steam wallet from selling cards and some CS skins), but the game definitely needs work. IGN's review is accurate for the most part. Needs a lot of tweaking and polish. The lack of ammo and health really does make it feel unfair because after a few levels you're usually running pretty low on one or both. The randomized levels aren't great, but functional. The sound effects need a lot of work. Guns aren't as satisfying as they should be. Could become good if they actually try to improve it though. Which I doubt since the dev was too busy shilling here all day and getting mad at people for not liking it.

>>376484501
It's a joke. Think, anon, why would there be regenerating health in a retro shooter?

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>>376471931
>tfw you were almost going to buy this a few days ago
>tfw you didn't

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>>376474358
devs confirmed for filthy redditors

>>376474882
the oldest trick in the book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

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>>376471931
Better/more weapon customization, more items, allowing more than 1 main and 1 looted "special" weapon, or at least give a choice to not pick it up. Number of health/armor pickups are retarded slow.

Some spawns are inside a pit of non-aggro'd enemies and they all wake up as soon as you spawn.

I still like it, it's pretty fun.

Weapon accuracy is all over the place, enemies take 9000 bullets to the chest but are killed instantly upon being shot in the leg.

>>376478115
>Programming in high level language
Was Quake coded in Assembly?

>>376486610
Quake was coded with an abacus

>>376474580
>Bunnyhopping
It's Strafejumping though, but it's still shit.

>>376478549
I fell through the floor because part of the level failed to load and it put me in a secret shop area.

Why devs think that roguelites and serious Sam clones are old-school.
Even DooM 2016 was a SS clone.

>>376484501
It only regenerates health up to a point (look at the blue stripes on your health bar.)

But them again if it's anything like the grenade magazine it only works half of the time due to shitty coding.

>>376478549
Blew up a damaged doorway with a barrel and got the SBC Cannon from serious sam.

>>376480940
>It's a roguelite episode

>>376474358
Not to defend the dev but the guy posting the fireden on Twitter sounds like a bigger faggot

>>376480940
if only he was good at video games

This garbage is definition of a meme game
>muh 80s 90s retro
>muh plays like oldschool
>roguelike
>procedural generation
>these visuals
>these game trailers
How can Battleborn even compete

>>376472438
a company literally put THOUSANDS of dollars into a movie trailer for this garbage. Yeah... nice job devolver.

>>376486610
>>376486705
doom and quake were written in C, of course

as a result, there were a couple bugs: http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Errors_and_bugs

I'm glad this piece of shit is getting destroyed in reviews. The shilling in those past few days was really annoying.

>>376477496
Sam is a different beast all together
>>376477823
They played them but they don't understand them

>>376475341
he must have NMS syndrome

but not wealthy enough to afford handlers for soc media

>>376474858
>the game has a learning curve

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>>376474358
>that thread
Holy shit, does he really not see how obvious he is? Really makes that mentally ill angle believable.

>>376482502
>is there anything redeeming about this besides the music?

dude the music is fucking horrible. sounds like it's just as randomly generated as the bullshit levels, just BLANG BLANG synth nonstop.

>>376489895
Did you actually listen to the music?

>>376489950
I'm playing the game right now. it's really not that good. music in a game like this should be pumping you up, not grating on your fucking ear drums. nothing catchy about it, just fucking dadmadmamdnamdnamdnamndadlaldndingdingindingindldandlnal

fucking annoying shit desu

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>>376488560
No bugs, only technical oddities

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>>376474358
How can someone be so un self-ware?

>>376490037
This scares me. What is a pumped up tune and what is a grating piece of shit? Should I listen to the OST for the game to identify shit?

>>376490578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD4SG-TvbWE

>>376490745
This is pumped or this is shit? Cause I really don't like the reverb going on in the base.

>>376490578
this is a grating piece of shit
https://youtu.be/Aj6udUI8vnY?t=27s
not only is the music bad, it over powers everything else in the game and has no cohesiveness with the visuals happening.

here's an example of something synthy getting you ramped up into the mix from a similar type of game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ZozVp4guw

>>376490578
Once you start combat music never stops playing.
It doesnt have a quiet moment.

Its as bad as Far Cry 2 , the moment you show your gun *SUDDENCOMBATMUSIC*

I'm bad at games so I think this game is pretty fucking hard. I think the game is OK honestly. The enemy AIR is pretty shitty, they do track you through walls and just constantly run at you, and they make little to no sound when running up on you so you can't tell they are coming. The game play is pretty much kite and shoot which wouldn't be so bad if the game was a little more forgiving. The soundtrack is badass IMO. The murder house is way more fun then the main game because it feels like a horde mode and the shitty AI works well enough there.

>>376471931
>Just came out.
What did your friends and family say? Were they okay with it?

Can't wait for the E3 VR release trailer.

>>376491331
Both tracks are good but the first one sounds fits the theme better of fighting enemies whereas the second one sounds more like a menu track or something you hear while running through an environment without enemies

>>376492163
>Both tracks are good

the fact that you even defend the first track at all, as if it has any artistic merit whatsoever makes your opinion so, so invalid

>>376492216
Or maybe you just have shit taste.

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>>376492312

Welp, just had to mercy kill a run when I got to 4-1 because I fell between the subway car and the platform and couldn't get back up. Thanks video game. Also why the fuck is weapon spread a thing in this game? My reward for lining up a headshot shouldn't be a chance to miss, especially if they're pushing this as a fast-paced old-school FPS.

What's up with the ammo in this game? Ammo management should only discourage waste, not limiting my ability to try new weapons. Also the aiming feels "slippery", I don't think I've felt this in any other game in recent memory.

i'd rather play bloodcrusher II

Other than retarded devs, what is bad with this game? I am watching a stream to figure it out, but it looks fine for what it is.

>>376494167
>Weapons have no impact
>Enemies are boring and have terrible AI
>Glitches out of the ass, certain upgrades like the grenade magazine only work half of the time that they are supposed too.
>Weird design decisions for this type of game like fall damage and magazine based reloading
>Lack of enemy sounds and indications for getting hit means it's easy for an enemy to sneak up behind you and damage you, especially with enemies often getting aggro'd far before you get close to them.
>Only being allowed to use a single gun and a tiny bit of ammo for guns you find on the ground.
>Gun balance is all over the place, certain modifications are trash while others make the game easy modo.
>movement tries to be like Quake 3 but ends up being quite a bit clunkier.
>performance issues (huge stutters when at the end of a level, final area runs at a consistently low framerate compared to the rest of the game)
>The wave survival mode is literally just the same 2 enemies over and over again

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>>376494167
Been playing it for a couple hours so I'll give you a rundown so far
>1 gun per run
>you can find new guns but you'll blow right through the ammo within a minute
>can't pick up ammo for new guns
>enemies ambush you in the masses and die without much challenge
>Food machines are rare
>armor is pretty expensive
>optimization problems where the game is pretty stuttery
>murder mode's music audio is SUPER fucking low to the point where you can't hear it at all
>not a whole lot of enemy variety
>people fall through the map
>guns lack impact
>stage variety isn't very great
that's everything I can list off the top of my head but most of these things can be patched up. The potential is still there, but I'd say it's worth a buy after a few updates, patches, and maybe when it goes on sale.

>>376492216
Anon who makes music for a living here. I don't know what high horse you've imagined yourself up here but it's a laughable one.

Also, you can not get any more invalid than invalid, you ape.

>>376494867
Honestly dusk looks like fucking garbage.
Even worse than strafe.

Desync is better. Has more weapon variety, enemy variety, and wow, actual level design.

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>>376475102
>>376475567
>Kept some steam wallet money on the side in anticipation for it
>Now I'm not even sure I want to go through with buying it

>>376495040
Dusk looks neat, but the weapons in it seem a little basic.

I'd rather fight more slow moving, projectile shooting enemies in open maps than this corridor melee fest. 90% of the time I just find a choke point and wait. Devs need to learn fast movement speed doesn't mean shit when you don't actually have the freedom to move around.

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>>376471931

save you money for cuphead.
I haven't seem a 2d sidescroller looking this good since Metal Slug games.

https://youtu.be/4TjUPXAn2Rg
https://youtu.be/4TjUPXAn2Rg

>>376471931
I just refunded it, huge disappointment

>somehow, even with procedural generation, there's no environment variety; you'll see the same exact places and even landmarks every single play through, just in different mis-matched areas.
>gun sound effects are dull and boring
>Only 4 core environment types
>terrible beginning that immediately spams practically every single enemy type out at once
>glitches galore (I "beat the game" by firing a gun...)
>completely based on nostalgia, no unique enemies or mechanics
>shooting somehow feels floaty; most guns suck or are unbalanced besides the shotgun and assault rifle
>fucking fall damage in a retro fps, and I'm talking REALISTIC fall damage. It's infuriating
>can be beaten in hours with no incentive to replay


and then just throw in every other problem with rogue likes that make them unlikable. I was really hoping the procedural generation would add replay ability, not take away from it. And the shooting is just meh. It's fun, that's it. Not nearly worth $20

>>376495808
Haven't seen a game with Disney-tier animation since Dragon's Lair

>>376496021
The preorder gun its meant to be a joke.
But i agree about the bugs,i bought the parasites that heal your,after using them on zone 3 i coulnd't get back my guns,and so i died to an horde of monkey guys.

it's just average
plenty of flaws
not really anything like games from the 90's/early 2000's fps era
far from the worst thing ever though.
anyone flipping their shit over it are retarded or kickstarted it (which also makes them retarded)

>Oh hey, we have lots of weapons that behave differently!
lol you'll ever have enough ammo to use one of three starting weapons

>Oh hey you can upgrade your weapons
lol the upgrade is completely random

>Oh hey you more really quickly and there's this blood vs acid mechanic
lol the map is full of closed off narrow areas forcing you to take damage

>Oh hey we have this advanced gore system
lol enemies don't react to nonfatal shots

>Oh hey its procedural generated so nothing feels the same!
lol there's only a handful of environment types even though each type is low res pixel garbage

>Oh hey we have 20+ different enemy types
lol there's only 4 shitty AI behavior so everything feels bland as hell

This game sabotages itself in every conceivable way. I feel ripped off even though I pirated it.

>>376494867
Level design in that game looks Redneck Rampage-tier i.e. pure unfiltered garbage

>>376476854
>There's a console version

This explains a lot...

>>376496328
You should check out the dragon's trap remake that just came out. Has a great euro comic hand drawn art style

>>376491331
I remember paying full-price for UT3 on launch, and even then, it had a mostly-nonexistent playerbase, guess that's what happens when you shoot for the same release window as fucking TF2, which had actual support

The UT remixes and prettiness made it worthwhile-esqe

>>376476854
so this is the power of the PS4...
whoa

>indie
>kickstarted
>procedurally generated
>"retro"
>roguelite
>crafting
>"endless replayability"
>git gud
>self entitled dev

This game is the consolidation of every terrible design trend of the past 5 years

>>376481049
The joys of procedural generation. Some runs I had near infinite ammo, some I had to spend half the level swinging my gun around like a fucking retard.

>>376496929
Ammo is plentiful enough however, just check monster closets and more often than not there will be ammo there (and you get so much per pickup, it's really easy to get x99 before area 3)

Yeah upgrades being random is dumb because you get them too infrequently unlike other roguelites.

You can still kite enemies easily so it's not really forced damage.

True

Opinion

Enemy varience is low as shit, only interesting enemy is the sniper in the third area that tries to predict your movement and runs away from you but it's exclusive to that area and everything else is just bland.

Thanks to enemies having literally zero sound this makes the first few levels harder than the later ones because melee enemies can sneak up on you out of nowhere unless you stop to back yourself into a corner for five minutes after thinking you cleared a room.

>>376498228
Ammo for the primary weapon is plentiful, but not for any other guns. Why not make it like Nuclear Throne where every weapon use ammo from a limited set? (Bullets, shells, explosives, energy)

>>376498692
Yeah it's really weird you aren't allowed to get ammo for them (especially when you grab the same gun twice you just got it twice in your inventory instead of adding it's ammo to the other one)

>>376498614
This and projectiles are pretty easy to dodge. Getting killed from behind by some melee enemies you can't here coming that came out of some stupid monstercloset three rooms back well after you left it to begin with is just bad design.

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>Let's compete with a game that had new content for 20 years old
>Also, our game will look worse and bring nothing new on the table

>>376471931

A 5/10 game with a 10/10 marketing campaign

Worth playing but not GOTY either

>>376495808
Is there even a date set for this shit yet? It's been ages since I've heard anything for it.

>>376499209
They keep pushing it back and I keep getting more concerned Microsoft is going to kill it

I'll wait for the GGGmanlives review.

Why the fuck this was even hyped in the first place?

>>376499782
He's not gonna think its any good. The gunfeel is a very important part of shooters to him and its not worth anything if the guns dont feel satisfying to shoot.

>>376500080
kickstarter
well produced marketing videos
people will buy anything these days as long as someone tells them to

>>376500080

It has the best marketing campaign i ever saw for an indie

>>376500080
Have you never seen Devolver Digital market a game before? They can make anything look like the next coming of christ when in reality the game would just be mediocre or shit altogether. I don't blame em for what they do since they're good at it.

>>376500448
devolver picked it up later
the original guy/guys behind the kickstarter all have a background in marketing

is steam store/activity/profile/etc not loading on the client for anyone else?
works on a proper browser though

>>376500448
To be fair, most devolver titles has a special charm to them. Though their quality control is slipping recently.

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Shitty SJW Game

>>376499782
it's easy to tell that sonny jim will trash it

>>376482491
>There is no impact or feedback for anything, the amount of quality in nuclear thrones gunplay is fucking garbage
Vlambeer fucking breathes impact, like holy shit look at the recoil, enemy pushback, screenshake, hitstop, etc.

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complainers BTFO

>>376471931
lack of texture variety
bland environments

Tries to e roguelike but fails

tries to be oldschool but fails

looks worse than Doom

game is a failure on all accounts.

>no handcrafted levels
>mostly hitscan weapons from what i've seen
this still kills it for me.
I like procedually generated permadeath action games, but I'm kind of sick of them. Good level design is something almost every indie dev fails to grasp.

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mods are just leaving up Strafe threads as containment.

It's the same paid shill posting the same threads with the same image (same meta data, different name) every time.

Most shilled game in a long fucking time.

>>376501170
That's because a lot of these "indie devs" are hipsters that want to fit in by pretending to be knowledgeable about old vidya and then half ass it with randomly generated stages and shirt art styles.

fh3 just got a good performance patch, play that instead of this indie garbage

>>376475401

those are trolls trolling trolls, you just have to ignore them

>>376501020
he's right about the movement though

Isn't there another low poly 3D shooter coming out too?

>>376503324
you're probably thinking of Dusk or Gibhard

>>376503324
The next Halo.

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>mfw the starter shotgun is the only good weapon in the game

>Doom with Oblige and Project Brutality
bam, it's free and it destroy whatever Strafe is trying to do.

>>376479987
Today it is available for pc via source port, which is solid. Great game with amazing story.

>>376479838
Played through it 5 times.

>>376482287
>NT is the opposite of floaty

>30 fps
>not floaty

lmao

>>376501020
>dude lmao
>taking a pic of your steam comment
Only one who BTFO is you

This is fucking funny how nowadays devs make games with le nostalgia theme, like pillars, torment, strafe and many others, and all these games worse than their originals made 20 years ago in every single aspect.

>>376505461
ok for torment or strafe, but not for pillars.

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>>376505612

>>376504478
>framerate is what makes it floaty
???

>>376471931
Does anyone have a torrent or mega link for this?

>>376471931
Link to OST download?
The only good thing about the game

>>376506903
Wrong thread kiddo. The Nier circlejerk is somehere else.

>>376478561
here you go faggot

https://madewith.unity.com/en/games/enter-the-gungeon

now stop spouting shit

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>Get triple nade launcher main fire upgrade for shotgun
>Destroys every single enemy easily and efficiently, just can't shoot them point blank
>Reach 4-1 end and fall down the chute
>The map doesn't fucking load and I'm forever falling in space

I gave this game a chance and I have to say fuck this game. The two major things I hate in this game was enemies spawning behind you in their "hidden walls" and not being able to use HOTKEYS for weapons in the year of 2017.

>>376484285
>>376474580
>>376494527
Apparently fall damage is confirmed for a nerf in both threshold and damage.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/442780/discussions/0/1334600128972961146/#c1334600128973058664

I hope they fix up some other shit too.

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>>376507059
pic related, enemy pushed me into a tiny square spot I can't escape from. Game really shouldn't have been released in this state.

>>376507205
Hopefully they also change the final boss because right now it's just hoping you have enough hp to not die, the way you walk in water/blood is so retarded that I do not understand why they thought that was an interesting mechanic to throw at the player.

>>376501223
honestly most triple A games are shilled way harder, it's just easier to notice when an indie game gets more than a couple threads.

Get Heavy Bullet or Eldrich or SubLevel Zero instead.

>>376471931
it's literally a meme game, every second of it has been taylor made for reddit

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>>376507205
its a start i guess

>>376475254
Fucking hell, who are these retards that are obsessed with getting scammed

>>376475634
>purchased April 30th

Anon why?

>>376506985
wot
Strafe soundtrack

>>376475908
Have you ever even seen quake 2?

>>376507446
People with change to spare, mostly?
The point of kickstarter is mainly to ask for very small sums of money from a lot of people. Most people who throw their money on kickstarter just don't care that much about whenenever it's really going to be good or bad, because the sum they pay is usually just too low for that to be an issue.

>>376478115
>Programmed on fucking UNITY
Im out have fun guys.
Fucking unity devs I swear

pretentious shilled shit. you'll unironically be better buying any Call of Duty instead this mediocre shooter

OK, so the game is apparently shit: Can't say I'm surprised but whatever.

That said, people in this thread would actually RATHER BELIEVE that the game is being shilled than thinking that it's just false-faggers and shitposters doing shit for giggles and screams?

SERIOUSLY?
The FUCK is wrong with you people? Do you people also think that the guy claiming he graduated top of his class Navy Seals is a real guy seriously claiming that? Or that people who post pictures of angry wojaks are actually that angry? What the fuck is going on?

>>376495808
Game looks boring as fuck, but the animation looks amazing.

>>376507907
Could you please explain what you think the word "pretentious" means? And why do you think it in any way applies to this game?

>>376507775
Giving a smaller amount still doesn't mean it isn't a dumb thing to do.

>>376504647
I haven't commented on anything on steam since 2015

Strafe is shit fo sho, and its procedural levels are a flaw, but I don't think procedural level generation is an inherent flaw, it's just implemented poorly. An fps needs interesting level design, like quake or doom, and the levels in this game are basically different variations of the same rooms and hallways. The secret to procedural level design is to make interlocking pieces that fit and complement each other, that can work together to make a mini puzzle, like spelunky. All these roguelikes like spelunky, rogue legacy, risk of rain, worked because even though there was a lot of rng, the levels were still varied and interesting. In strafe its just bland.

>>376471931
am i the only person in this thread who's having fun with this game

the only issues im having with it are:
1. the guns feel kinda weak
2. the store stopped telling me what the items do for some reason, so i have absolutely no idea what im spending my credits on

>>376507935
You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded

>>376507984
I can explain

>>376507994
>Giving a smaller amount still doesn't mean it isn't a dumb thing to do.
Perhaps, but not a grave one. Money has different value to different people, you know. And in these case, the gravity of your mistake is really best measured by the amount of discomfort or regret it causes you.
So if you throw away what usually amounts to pocket change on an off chance that something might be good, but without ever regretting or missing that money, I don't think that is a particularly dumb mistake.

What is dumb is to invest into a kickstarter without being mentally ready to be dissapointed, and then getting all crazy with resentment and dissapointment. If you are not already OK with the fact that your investment might not pay off, you should be never funding anything like a kickstarter.

>>376509026
Great argument that totally does not just further confirm that you people are retards who have absolute no rationality about you behave at this point.

>>376509308
Newfag get out

>>376471931

>Wrench is just bare fists but stronger
>Attack speed/animations are inconsistent as fuck
>Slower button-to-hit than enemies doing melee attacks, but since the animations are inconsistent 3 swing/1 swing combos as well as extremely short range you can't make up for it with timing
>Enemies don't get hitstun, most often they die or just carry on
>Enemies can hit you with their backs turned to you

Even when you try to avoid the shit guns you see they fucked up completely.

>>376474474
again, what? What does astroturfing mean in this context? Did he mean something else?

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>144 posters

>>376481774
NT will always be more fun than gungeon

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>If you hit a ceiling while jumping you can't jump anymore for the next second
What the fuck this is so fucking stupid.

>>376481970
how do i into quake mods in 2017

The impression I'm getting is that the the devs got carried away with the marketing and ended up putting more effort into it than the actual game.

Honestly the pre-alpha prototype they put out during the K$ was incredibly bad and I'm sort of surprised the game even got Kickstarted in the first place. But I do hope they fix it up and make it good or at least better.

>>376509680
Only thing that held NT back from godtier was 30fps and shitty aspect ratio