>I'm not the villain in this story What did he mean by this?

>>376455190
he was talking about how fond he is of polish toilet industry

>>376455190
he's trying to distract you from the skull on his sword, standard villain tactics.

>>376455336
But it's Doomguy's sword.

>>376455190
He doesn't want you to worry, friend. He is your shield.

>I'm not the villain in this story

t. villian

>>376455190
Because he will be the villain of the next story(DOOM 2)

He means that he doesn't see himself as a villain. He believes the end, argent energy, justifies the means, shaking the bee hive that is hell.

>>376455190
There is literally only one possible reason for those handles on his hips to exist. Literally built for sex.

>>376456443
nah it's "dude just stick shit on there lmao" design

>>376455190
That he is the villain in this story.

Besides, I'd like to see that huge robot in action

>>376456820
>actual boss fight is against other machines and shit that he's controlling in another room
>confront him
>he's just a big clumsy nerd in a robot body

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>made himself 3m tall

technically he isn't a villain, he's just the antagonist, going forward at least.

he doesn't want to kill or fight Doomguy (because fighting him is stupid and he knows that) he just wants to keep getting that energy.

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>>376457413
>make a robot body
>only difference is you're taller
Wasted potential.

>>376455190
He is the hero that Doomverse needs.

>>376457413
maybe he was a manlet when he was human

>>376455190
>muh argent energy

>doom
>story
found your problem

>>376455190
"the greatest trick the devil pulled is tricking you he wasn't there"
M.Night Shyalaman

>>376455190
I desperately want to see Doomguy vs Donald Trumpbot

>>376455190

He's just a pawn, same as Olivia. Hell is playing him like a fiddle.

Doomguy ends up stranded in Sanctuary (Diablo universe). How long do the Prime Evils have to live?

>>376455190
>Samuel Hayden
>S. Hayden
>Satan

Yeah nah

Are the enemies in Doom actually Demons or Aliens? As in do the portals take you to the Christian Hell or do the portals take you to a far away world with Aliens.

>>376458251
I give'em two days

>>376455190
HE. DID. NOTHING. WRONG.

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>>376455190
Reminder that Hayden sent Doomslayer to the Arena Eternal and that will be his reveal trailer for Quake Champions.

Reminder that the Doomslayer saved and installed a copy of VEGA's backup before shutting him down. VEGA will be doing Doomslayer's voice responses in Quake Champions.

>>376458483

Generous, depending on the time when Doomguy arrives. The fact that the Evils don't permanently die only means they have time to learn to fear him.

>>376458469
It's neither Christian Hell or aliens. It's an alternative hell. It is supposed to be supernatural, in Doom 1 you first go to Hell after you are killed.

>>376458469
Demons from Hell. Fire and brimstone, lakes of lava, the whole nine

>>376455946

>gets built up as the villain
>gets one-shotted in a cutscene by the Icon of Sin, which he's spent the first half of the game reanimating because MUH ARGENT
>his personal Hell is a secret room in the final level

>>376456443
Brings a whole new meaning to "mounting brackets"

>>376458469
In the Doom games all the enemies are demons or humans possessed by demons. In the early Doom books it's aliens, and in the Doom movie it's humans who took part in Martian gene splicing experiments.

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Maybe Doomguys brother will finally make his in-game debut in D44m 2?

>>376459474
that is doomguy though

>>376459474
He's player 2
He retired after DooM 2

>>376459474
Died in Quake 3

>>376459474
But that's one doomed space marine.

>>376455190
He doesn't think of what he's doing as evil because from his point of view, he's just looking out for humanity's best interests. Yeah, dealing with Hell is a kind of dangerous and poor solution, but when such outbreaks are able to be isolated and contained, it's better than leaving the galaxy full of humans with no energy leading to the complete breakdown of their society.

>>376455190
He sees himself a the hero, humanity's last hope, or something

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>>376459474
fuck that i want ancient space crusaders

>>376455190
No John, you are the villains.
And then Doom Guy was the villain.

>>376455190
Olivia did it not him. He just wanted the energy to help humanity prosper even more. It's well worth the risk of an outbreak that can basically be contained by a lone single marine.

>>376455190
Why couldn't his conpany have used robots and turrets as the main security system? Can't possess something that isn't meat and lacks a soul.

Basically DOOM 1 was "Oh shit we're invaded" then everyone dies except you. Since you can't fly the shuttle back to Earth to save yourself, you decide to try to clear out the base.

You kinda do, except you get ambushed and die. Because the base on Deimos is actually a part of hell now, that's where you "respawn" in hell.

You clear out THAT base and its new commander and actually go to the outer levels of old school hell. Again, you clear THAT shit out, goddamn, and kill the guy leading the invasion on mars. The guy leading Hell basically gives you a teleporter to earth so that you'll stop messing shit up. That's right, HELL BROUGHT YOU BACK TO LIFE BECAUSE YOU KICKED ITS ASS.

Then you teleport to earth and OH SHIT DEMONS ARE HERE TOO! Apparently you meet the last few survivors and get them onto a space ship so they can get the fuck out of dodge. The problem is, the base where the launch button is overrun by demons.

You clear THOSE demons out, launch the ship and save humanity. You're such a stone cold badass holy balls. But you're tired as fuck, and you should be you magnificent bastard you, you decide to lie down and rest. Then some douche commander says "So yeah, thanks and all. Oh yeah, we found out where they're coming from. It's your hometown." So you get the fuck back up.

THEN you fight your way to your hometown and find where the demons are coming from. Do you go through the portal? Shit yeah you do, there are still demons to kill bitch.

You fight your way through the SERIOUS part of hell, then kill SATAN.

And that is why the Doomguy is the single most powerful human in the history of all games everywhere. Even fucking jrpg faggots need a group of 3 people and some faggoty power of friendship to kill God. Doomguy does it without magic or friends and kills Satan and everyone around him.

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>>376458182
OR maybe he is playing the lords of hell for a fool and using their shit for his own gains.
I hope we get to be on his side in the sequel.

>>376458590
Fucker took my sword.

The Slayer's Testaments mention "Sword and Shield of adamantine strength."

Does the crucible have a shield counterpart?

>>376462143
And then, what, they seal you away and you wake up in d44m?

since doom 3 doesn't actually have doomguy

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>>376462143
>reddit

>spacing

>>376461991
The UAC does more than just harness Argent Energy on Mars and its moons. It develops advanced technology there, such as the BFG9000.

Hayden
>Muh Aregent Energy

Pierce
>Muh demonic overlords

Doomguy
>Muh rabbit

VEGA
>Although humanity needs the use of Argent Energy, I understand that the risks outweigh the rewards

>>376462870
D44M takes place after Doom 64, at the end of Doom 64 Doomguy decides to stay in hell to kill all the demons.

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>>376455190
Technically he isn't the devil, he only made a deal with him.

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>>376462973
>I have many regrets, Dr Hayden...

>>376462930
You seem to know an awful lot about Reddit. I wonder why that is?

>>376462973
>>376463201
You know VEGA is pure because Doomguy went out of his way to make a backup copy of VEGA.

>>376462723

Might be referring to the armor.

>>376463115
y'know. I totally forgot doom64 even existed. Let alone had its own storyline

>>376457996
fuck off Carmack

>>376463536
>>376462723
The armor is considered the shield, yes.

The Doomslayer Armor is basically some next level shit.

>>376462930
Would you really rather read that as one big block of text?

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>>376463251
you tell me, downvote.
>>376463778
i would rather have not read that shit at all, it's like a twelve year old typed it up.

>>376457656
>implying he doesn't have an enormous rododick compartment hidden between his legs

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>>376463436
But now where is Doomslayer going to find another giant facility that can hold VEGA? maybe hell's tech can compress all that into a small body

>>376462930
That copypasta is literally a decade old, long before reddit was popular.

>>376464213
wrong

it was gay as fuck then, still gay now.

>>376464213
It's too late. He's labelled it as reddit and we all know no one ever backs up off of that.

>>376464384
Sure buddy.

>>376461754
This. I love their design

>>376464398
now i know you're a thirteen year old

got ya

>>376458659
VEGA will be Doomguy's Cortana

>>376464481
>Reddit spaced his comeback
Oh shit son I called you reddit
What are you going to do now

>>376464520
He already is

>>376464535
Dude, just stop. He's clearly baiting you.

>>376462930
You know Reddit spacing is just a meme to out newfags who believe it's an actual thing, right?

You're just playing along and pretending to be retarded, surely.

Right?

>>376458469
alternate dimension

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>>376464668
>le funny bait meme!

god, i fucking hate all of you. sage

>>376464535
(you)

another (you)

>>376458469
Today, you'll never see a UHD 3D video game with all the shit the original game had.
It was demons, and the atmosphere was a really powerful one.

>tfw won't see D44M 2 for 5 years because it takes id forever to make anything

>>376464818
is that what they keep telling themselves over at /r/_donald?

>>376464210
what if Doomguy just beat the shit out of Hayden and then put VEGA into his robot head ?

>>376464931
and it will be shit in typical id fashion

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>>376464991
>it's a leaf
Now it all makes sense.

I liked doom 3

>>376455190
It means that Doomslayer is going to tear his head off the next time they meet.

>>376465394
It was a good game. It wasn't doom but a good horror shooter.

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So with the two big motherfuckers of classic FPS revived around the same time which game had the superior antagonist?

>>376455190

It means he wasn't.

But he will be in a sequel or expansion.

I think Bethesda hinted at an expansion with that E3 pic.

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>>376462930
>Not recognizing the pasta

How fucking new are you?

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>>376459474
Reminder

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>>376467087
>26fps

Samuel Hayden
S. Hayden
Satan

Don't believe his lies

>>376455190
He literally did nothing wrong. Everything bad that happens in D44M is Olivia's fault.

>>376459474
That's the real Doomguy, the one up front gets killed and is how Doomguy goes berserk and kills all the demons.

>>376455190
>Samuel Hyde
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>376461754
>That fucking foot clipping

What the hell.

>>376455190
Is this from that sequel to Reboot that never happened? Is that the new Bob?

>>376469770
It's sorta justified here because they're ghosts

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>>376469028
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>>376461754
If Doomguy really is the traitor that caused Argent D'nur to fall, does this scene mean that they forgave him?

Ok. Is Quake in the same Universe as DOOM? I already know Wolfenstien is.

>>376461754
What are these guys supposed to be anyway? Why are they and Doomguy fighting hell anyway? Is Doomguy even Human?

>>376462870
D44m is a reboot, you don't even play as a human.

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>>376470019
Wasn't the traitor converted into the Icon of Sin or was the son of the traitor who was converted?
Either way, Doomguy beated the crap out of them

>Samuel Hayden
>S. Hayden
>Sayden
>ay
He's an alien from mars, he just wants his home back.

>>376470490
Yea you do. Its stated in all the lore you find that you play as the Human that got so fucking mad at hell, that he basically gained god like powers through rage.

>>376470629
If you listen to the hell logs, the doomslayer has his story spelled out, and he's part of the knights you find in hell, which is why they salute you, for avenging them after you initially betrayed them and their civilization for your son. The demons gave the doomslayer a zombie version of his son and laughed at him so he went fucking berserk and killed them all. This civilization was more advanced than humanity and fell centuries before humanity discovered hell.

Just make a sequel to this, Quake Live is all the fans want from Quake

>>376464210
The giant facility was just so that they could muster enough energy to make sure that VEGA could manage the facility. Kinda redundant in the end.
i'm sure that just running the basic personality and memory AI wouldnt take up so much processing power, and with how well it deals with everything else, the Praetor Suit should be able to handle it

>>376455190
He's a smart guy. He knows damn well that he's the villain, and he's trying really hard to come up with a rationalization that proves otherwise.

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>>376466098
Wolfenstein.
First time since I play videogames that a game made me hate the villain motherfucker and that old hag bitch.
Greetings towards Machinegames for that.
On the other side, Dr. Samuel made me think that he tried to do it for the good of humanity and their survival. Too bad that he was too high on himself to realize that things were going out of control and that supposedly one of his employees would betray humanity

>>376467087
THE DEEPEST LORE

>>376466098
Given W:TNO's bigger approach to storytelling, Deathshead as a character was much better built, plus the flashback that let you see what he really did to your companions was some heavy shit, i gagged the first time i saw it
Hayden was just...there. Sure, his interactions with doomguy are finely crafted, and his speech in the intro makes the title cut-off so good, but other than that he has no real impact aside from the obvious sequel bait

>>376470593
Son of the traitor, traitor went berserk and is heavily implied to be the Doomslayer

>>376465086
but then we would lose Hayden, maybe he has a spare lying around

>>376466098
Hayden is not an antagonist, he said so himself. comparing him to that nazi guy is an insult!

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>>376471301
>He hated Based Strasse

Untermensch detected

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Is the UAC even trying to hide that they're fucking with Hell in D44M? In doom 3 it seems like it's supposed to be secret, but in D44M it seems like they don't care if everyone knows.

>>376471798
go watch the documentary where they talked to the head creative designer and he said they decided early on to make UAC as tongue in cheek as possible that they're upfront about dealing with demonic power

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>>376458253
you also forgot
>doctor samuel hayden
>three 6 letter words
>666
he's the debil

>>376458469

In Doom 1, it was straight up demons from Biblical Hell.

In Doom 2, they started moving away from this and although they never said they weren't from hell, they were nowhere near as explicit as they were in Doom 1.

In Doom 3, they were some sort of chaos (hell) dimension so it was more about how you felt about it.

Doom 4 actually brings it back to straight up hell, although frankly even though they call them demons and their realm hell, it's still not as explicit and hellish as Doom 1 was. It really could have used more things like inverted crosses, pentagram baphomet, the weird scrolling warped faces/souls wall, ect.

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>>376455190
What's the point of the hooks on the end of his sword? I've seen it elsewhere, like on Ashnard's sword, but I don't know if it's even close to functional or just a meme.

>>376465221
please stop not all leafs are this retarded
i swear i don't talk about politics ever

>>376472325
I can definitely agree that Doom 4's hell was pretty weaksauce, it just looked like the surface of mars with some gothic architecture here and there.
I think even Doom 3's hell was more convincing.

>>376466098
Hayden's not really an antagonist until the very last cutscene. Deathshead meanwhile is the big motherfucker of the entire game BJ is obsessed with murdering (despite how Strasse doesn't even give a shit about him and casually fucking kills himself just ruin BJ's entire effort).

>>376472485
its just for show

>>376472325
They probably don't want to offend religious types. But I say who fucking cares, it's just a video game.

>>376472485
In theory you could use it to hook shields or something.
I mean, it's not like you're going to be stabbing with something that huge anyways.

>>376472729
Which religion would be offended by a game where you slaughter demons by the thousands?
Satanists?

>>376471047
Champions is basically QL HD. It's fun as hell. Go play the beta with some friends this week.

>>376472836
This, desu. Doom teaches good christian values if anything.

>>376472520

No ifs about it. Doom 3's hell was definitely more hellish and fitting for it, one of the high points of it.

Doom 4's hell is saved from being the weakest because it's next to non-existent in Doom 2, but frankly it's such a let down that they weren't willing to do something like Unholy Cathedral level or House of Pain, maps and design is truly Satanic.

>>376472836
It doesn't matter that plotwise you are against the demons, normalfag christians would be offended anyway by the mere presence of these things in the game because they're retarded

Bring back Daisy

>>376471798
>boards on the wall with who wants to volunteer to be this weeks sacrifice

>>376472836
The type of Christians who think satanic imagery in a game means it's trying to indoctrinate you. Fuck, there are still Christians who think Harry Potter is satanic.

>>376472729

Hell was just so disappointing, one of the low points in an otherwise great game.

Another issue was just how much back and forth hopping you did between Hell and Mars. Something I liked about Doom, and yeah, Doom isn't about it's story but I love that slow gradual descent into hell over the 3 episodes. I really wish they'd done it like that, where you start on Mars, wonder why there's demons and shit, wonder where most of the base has disappeared to, find the portal, find the other half of the base, fight more demons as more and more of the base becomes corrupted by Hell and becomes more Satanic, and then in the 3rd act realize that you are currently floating above Hell itself and have to press on to all the horrors to stop them from corrupting all of the universe.

I really wanted Doom 4 to have that sort of slow creep to it in the grand sense instead of hopping back and forth between Hell and Mars.

>>376462143
>Oh yeah, we found out where they're coming from. It's your hometown." So you get the fuck back up.
I remember this.

Doomguy was FUCKING PISSED because those demons killed his cute doggy.

He wasn't really the villain, he was just mad at you for destroying the whole facility he created instead of just containing the outbreak. The real villain would be the woman who opened the portal in the first place.

>>376474181
It was a rabbit, actually.

>>376472843
>Go play the beta
Isn't the beta via invitation only?

Can anyone give me a key?

>>376473428
I rather liked how you jumped back and forth between hell and mars. Going from the high tech environments of mars to the fantasy environments of hell offered a nice contrast and helped keep things fresh though I wish hell was a bit more satanic and less generic fantasy bad guy turf.

Also there was a bit of creep with the UAC spokesman lines going from generic corporate stuff to flat out cult stuff. Not much but still.

>>376474262
They'll open it up this week

>>376472543
>Hayden's not really an antagonist until the very last cutscene.
And even then it could reasonably be argued that his hand was forced by Doomguy. Everything he had been doing up to that point with Argent energy was morally questionable to be sure, but he had shit under control and there was no major threat by simply maintaining the status quo.

>>376470490
>>376463115
Doom 4 is canonically self-contained and isn't officially a direct sequel to any of the earlier games, it's just kept vague enough that you can interpret it as such and it still works.

>>376462930
reddit spacing isn't a thing idiot, kys yourself