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Was Kingdom Hearts a mistake?

Would the story have been better without Kairi altogether?
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The story was doomed from the start when SquareEnix decided to make it a trilogy.
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Yes and no, respectively.

It wouldn't have been worse without her, but it wouldn't have been better either. She's a nonentity in the plot. And the plot is terrible.
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>>376451370

>Trilogy
>10 random spin-off games later
>3rd and final game postponed indefinitely

Really activates your almonds...
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>>376451446

Didn't they give her a keyblade to try and make her relevant fucking kek

I can't wait to see how they shoehorn her into the main plot come KHIII
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>>376451216

Kairi is to kingdom hearts what Sakura is to Naruto, she's only there to prevent it from being a flat out fag fest even more than it already is.

The series would be better off without her. I get the need for a trio rather than just two teenage boys in love with each other, but making Riku a girl would have solved that.

Naburo would have been the greatest love story ever told if Sasuke was female.
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>>376451216

>those hips
>going from short haired girl to hot teenager with little red bow panties

Nothing would be better without Kairi you idiot
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>>376451216
>Would the story have been better without Kairi altogether?
No, but it would definitely be better with Riku as a girl.
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>>376451216
>Would the story have been better without Kairi altogether?

Who?
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>>376451370
>he thinks kh is ending at 3
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>>376451731
>making Riku a girl would have solved that
>making Riku a tomboy would have solved that
>making Riku a tanned tomboy would have solved that

Oh god yes.
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Kairi isn't half as bad as Axel in his new role. He was perfect as a CoM character that became more important in II. Making him a keyblade user after becoming human (but keeping nobody powers???) is fucking retarded even by the series standard.
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>>376451619
Its really not shoehorning, the 7 keyblade wielders need to defeat the 13 darknesses i.e. Xehanort.

The DDD true ending shows her about to undertake training to become a keyblade wielder, KH3 will likely begin with the player doing a tutorial as kairi then switching to sora for the main game.
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>>376452405

>Kingdom Hearts 3.1 After Story XX Final Mix Compilation

Just kill me now
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>>376451216
Every game after 2 was a mistake
Kairi wasn't needed after 1 because it wasn't about her after that
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>>376452560

By Allah I will shoot myself if we get another 4 hour tutorial as someone random. At the very least Sora might come back fixed from the autism he had in DDD due to minor training time skip between the two games.
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>>376452405
The Xehanort saga is ending with KH3 but the series will continue.
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>>376452425

>tomboy riku and sora wrestling and rough housing as kids
>tomboy riku leaves to find power
>can't stop the feelings for idiot sora
>emotional confrontations in I and emotional reunion in II

Nomura doomed us to the worst timeline when he created a female companion and he knows it.
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>>376452560

It's shoehorning anon, her character did literally nothing in II and she was more of an object in I (albeit an important one). Now suddenly she's gonna have a combat role as an Aqua to the trio, after being so flimsy Axel can kidnap her by holding her upper arm
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>>376451216
her feet are bigger than this

Post them
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So is Roxas just Ventus or what, they literally look the same but it doesn't make any sense that Ventus would manifest as Sora's nobody just like that.
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>>376453007
If you were kidnapped twice you'd probably want to learn how to defend yourself as well, what else would she do? Stay on destiny island and do literally nothing? Now she can be useful.
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>>376453418

Agree that you'd want to become useful, but the hilariously small amount of time it'll take her to be equally competent as the people saving her those times is insulting. It's power creep of the worst kind.
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>>376453119

>Tfw the shitty proportions in KH give you a massive fetish for huge feet
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>>376453189

Ventus went full Michael Jackson and put his soul into Sora or some shit, that's why Roxas looks like him
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AQUA IS CUTE! CUTE!!!
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>>376454983
more
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>>376454983
PUFFY
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>>376454983

Post Aqua
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>>376451216
The whole series would be much better and !less! embarrassing if the would have kept it to simple disney story type like in the first one.
But this is all in the past we now have this convoluted mess of anime tropes that you cant decipher but can ignore in favor of the fun gameplay and combat.
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>Yen Sid
>Eraqus

Who's ready for Master Arumon in KHIII
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>>376454983
Aqua is old and busted, Kairi is the new hotness
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>>376451523
>spin-off
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>It's an aquafag tries to start a hate circlejerk about kairi episode again

reminder that aqua has no personality, immediately making kairi better
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>>376456683

>no personality

Being mild =/= no personality

Aqua is, at the very least, a participant of the story in BBS rather than an object in it like Kairi is for KHI and II
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Post more waifus
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>>376451523
There are no spinoffs in the series despite a lot of the games not being traditionally numbered. Some have smaller roles than others, but are all connected. Avoiding those games are a part of the reason people are confused about the more obvious parts of the story.
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It would be better if kairi sat on my lap

and by lap I mean penis
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>>376458021

>being connected means it's not a spinoff

Explain to me under what circumstances Re:Coded isn't a spinoff.
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>The only porn for this series is gay

Fuck everything
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>>376458021

By this logic Rogue One is equivalent to a flagship Star Wars title.
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>>376458520

All of the non gay porn I've seen is nightmare inducing deviant art shit from the depths of the dark ages.
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I don't have a problem with the story at all. It's high fantasy, and every JRPG I ever played that wasn't some boring basic medieval garbage that oldfags like to act like are the best had high fantasy in the same vein as KH.
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>>376458692

Can you give some examples of similar plot lines...? Genuinely curious.
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The series went down hill after 2. 2 was the maximum amount of tolerable autism, once they started adding shit like Xion and 13 Xehanorts it was fucked.
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It still would have been nonsensical and weird. Kairi just helps keep it from being a sausage fest.
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What was the WORST plot twist in the whole series?

>time traveling caused all of this
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>>376460231
I want to lick Xion's chest
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>>376461530
>being gay
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>>376461530
Who?
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>>376461415

>all the heartless you've ever killed have been for this big fake kingdom hearts 2.5. FINAL MIX
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>>376461415
Eh, things were already pretty silly with all the HEART stuff. At least in Bleach that whole thing about the heart kind of made sense because it was talking about shit like courage and dedication. In KH, it's just "HEARTS ARE MAGICAL!"

But it works, even if it's silly and stupid.
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>>376461530
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>>376461901

>posting a blank image

Just admit you were rambling
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>>376461415

>Axel can use a keyblade
>nobodies all return as people with the same abilities
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I think Kairi is only one dent in the entire list of flaws in the Kingdom Hearts lore.

Kairi was a Mary Sue in the first game (and kind of in the second when she was given a keyblade for no reason) but became 100% irrelevant after that (I think inconsistency is the #1 flaw for Kingdom Hearts).
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>>376458021
I mean Re:Coded is definitely filler shit but it sets up what the actual goals of Sora's journey for KH3: Save Aqua, Terra, and Ventus. DDD made it more complicated but it's still that.

All 358/2 did was detail things we already knew and introduced a character that everybody forgot anyway. I'd say that's the most pointless title.
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>>376458249
A spinoff would imply a significantly different cast or setting. Re:coded was literally reused assets, and nothing like a spinoff. It was shit though, I'll give you that.
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>>376462287
>definitely filler shit but it sets up what the actual goals of Sora's journey
BBS already did that
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P0x-dC78de8

Was this a good scene?

>That voice acting.
>That emotion.
>That boss fight.
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>>376462498
All BBS did with that was have that awkward look up and say Sora scene. It has hints that make sense now but it was hardly gave Sora a goal. Re:Coded ended with Mickey realizing Aqua, Ventus, and Terra could be saved and asking Sora, as per the letter he wrote, to do it.
>>376462820
Voice acting was one of BBS's strongest points. Terra comes across as tough but sensitive, Ventus is inexperienced and Roxas-y, Aqua is calm, soft-spoken and collected, Eraqus is pure wise mentor and has good emotion in his few dramatic lines, and Old Xenanort is a fucking treat.

As for that scene, it was obvious Xehanort set the whole thing up but when it's unfolding you understand why Terra made the mistake he did.
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>>376455407
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>>376463074

Why is young Xehanort so fucking erotic and Terra just looks autistic
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>>376462264
>Mary Sue
No, no she's not. Don't use that term when you clearly don't know what it means.
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>>376461415

Honestly I was fine with everything up until DDD. DDD was unforgivable though.

I didn't like that the Unversed were just Vanitas related though, I would have liked if they had some sort of lasting role similar to heartless and nobodies.
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>>376463951

Tell him why he's wrong then instead of just blowing smoke out your ass, unless you can't articulate it either

>but I know he's wrong!!
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>>376458116
>kairi will never sit on your penis
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>>376464150
What crawled up your fucking ass, faggot?
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>>376463951

>naturally gifted with the keyblade when convenient
>holds the interest of several male characters
>not from the destiny islands, significantly more important than what's needed to advance to plot

Where's the part where she's not a Mary Sue?
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>>376464307

Doesn't sound like an explanation of why that guy's wrong to me.
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>>376458520
Mike Inel blessed us with good shit, but he did so before Aqua existed.
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>>376464467
She's not the main character. Sora and Riku constantly tell her she's not fit to help out despite them not being much better with the keyblade. Also she was hardly gifted with it, she swung it around and that was it.

And Sora's the only one really interested in her. Riku wants Sora's cock in his ass.
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>>376464307

"s-shut up! I bet you can't do it either!"
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>>376464679

I will take it to the grave that Riku is the one who will be putting his cock in Sora's ass, not vice versa. You can have any other points but that's the truth here.
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>>376461415
Say it with me:

I'M
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>>376464691
Not even remotely what I said, autist. Thanks for proving how much of a child you are.
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>>376464679

Good explanation. If they had given her more screen time to build up to her having a key I'd be signed off on it, I think.
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>>376464830
Keep telling yourself that, bub.
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>>376464875
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>>376464875

Nothin PERSONNEL, kid
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>>376465085

MOAR
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>>376465085
Post the Namine one.
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>>376464932
Well they do reveal how she and the boys got theirs in Birth by Sleep.
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>>376465094
Nice shitpost, junior.
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>>376465181
>>376465202
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>>376465208
Namine was the best. Breaking her heart in Chain of Memories was the worst.
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>>376463074
>it has hints that make sense now but it was hardly gave Sora a goal
The game ends with sora saying that he has to leave DI because the people connected to him need him. Re:coded added nothing that we didn't already know
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>>376465504
At least she lives on inside Kairi.
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>>376464283
source me fangadangalinglong

captcha: twowombs
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Will someone give me a legitimate quick rundown on the story so far? The only ones I played were 1, Chain of Memories, and 2. Never played any of the final fight 2.X edition's before.
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>>376463074
>Voice acting was one of BBS's strongest points
What the fuck
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Kairi's main issue is that it's harder to sympathize with her or root for her. Like, you never really go "I hope she can obtain happiness in the end", because really, she's plenty happy already. She has everything she could ever want or need. She's perfectly content.

Namine and Xion, however, have tragic circumstances and are constantly faced with nigh insurmountable roadblocks. So it's easy to sympathize with them, it's easy to want to see them succeed and become happy.

I think there are three main keys to a successful fictional character. 1) Charisma/force of character, 2) the power to generate legitimate sympathy, or 3) the conflicts that they are forced to endear. As long as a character has one or the other, they will naturally attract fans. Charisma is self-explanatory; in fictional works, many of the most popular characters are the ones with larger-than-life personalities, those who immediately draw everyone's attention from the moment they appear. Sympathy, obviously, is the power to garner sympathy and make the audience feel strong emotions for that character. For instance, a character with tragic circumstances, assuming it's written reasonably well, will make the audience want that person to become happy. Finally, there's the central conflict. In this case, you don't need to be especially larger-than-life or have some extremely tragic circumstance to become popular; you just need a powerful conflict to face. Luke Skywalker honestly isn't a very interesting character and is easily overshadowed by the rest of the cast, but because he's the central figure in the main conflict as well as the son of a primary antagonist, his story is a naturally compelling one.

Kairi has very little of all three.
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>>376464679
When Riku dies in KH2 he says Kairi.
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>>376465736
Me in the middle.
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>>376451216
any person over the age of 16 who unironically likes kingdom hearts was a mistake
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>>376465916
>open gelbooru
>kairi
>literally first page
nigger
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>>376451523
>spin-offs
what spin-offs?
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>>376467230
Kingdom Hearts V-Cast, the best game in the franchise.
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>>376466285

I don't remember this, isn't he just an ally character in TWTNW? Does he have a death line?
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>>376466285
He never dies. Nor does he say anything about Kairi. Hell, it's obvious that he wants to get Sora and her together and busts Sora's balls because the kid's a clueless retard.
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>>376452710
I have to say the whole time you were Roxas in KH2 was lit
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>>376466849
Thanks, shitposter cunt.
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>>376468216
You're welcome.
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>>376458520
I remember some fanfic author that pretty much ripped off Hatsu Inu and other h-manga but with kingdom hearts characters. Though I don't think I've ever read one involving a guy getting a handjob with a syrup covered pancake.
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What the fuck was up with the part in the Roxas tutorial where the nobodies steal a word?? No one acts like that's anything out of the ordinary, they're just mildly surprised. Why did they write such a bizarre thing?

Is the power to steal concepts and shit referenced again ever?
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>>376452751
Makes me wonder where it will go when this saga finally ends. Will time pass and a new protagonist takes over or will a new threat arise immediately after Xehanort is dealt with?
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>>376468401
you gotta remember that was in the Data TT

when you steal the data for "photos" of coarse it will have an effect on everything
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>>376468668
>Will time pass and a new protagonist takes over or will a new threat arise immediately after Xehanort is dealt with?

Nope, according to Nomura, we're stuck with Sora as the main lead FOREVER.
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>>376468668

I hope they just let this era fucking end and revive it a year or two after it's done as a surprise.

Would be great if they took it in a new direction plot wide instead of this cluster fuck surrounding Sora continuing to expand.
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>>376468706

Shit I never thought of that, thanks dude. On that note, do they ever explain how nobodies infiltrated the data TT? Is it just a thing they can easily do?
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>>376461405
>mike inel
that's a name i havent see in years
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How could anyone say this smile was a mistake?
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>>376468991
They don't exist. The Digital Twilight Town is basically a "Fake Twilight Town". It doesn't exist in "reality". Thus, a "nobody" infiltrating a "false reality" isn't all that strange.
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I hope KH3 can raise the bar with the secret boss. Unknown in KH1 still hasn't been topped for me in terms of atmosphere and music.
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>>376469657

I think Lingering Will in the keyblade graveyard could have topped it if we had actually traveled there instead of being warped via portal. Fighting Mansex in the first game was awesome though, before we had any idea what the deal was.
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>>376464467
>naturally gifted with the keyblade
She swings it like she's never held a sword in her life and kills cutscene shadows- enemies so dumb they can pile on top of Sora and he just shoves them off like they're cats.
>holds the interest of several male characters
Not anymore, as Riku and Sora are pretty much canon gay now.
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>>376470136
Shame we had to wait until fucking 1.5 to even get to enjoy the fight.
>lol, remember this scene from the first game? No? Oh yes, sorry. It was in Final Mix, sorry Americans!
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>>376469609
If Roxas has a heart, and hearts can't be encoded as data, how can Christopher Lee put him in Data TT? How do Sora and friends get encoded into Tronworld?
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>>376470826
The power of the heart.
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>>376470910
If Sora was killed in Castle Oblivion, what would have happened to Roxas? What if Roxas was killed? If they were both destroyed, would Sora just come back to life like the Org members?
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>>376451216
>Would the story have been better without Kairi altogether?
Kairi is Sora's complete driving force throughout KH1-CoM-2
>All that Kairi hallucinating I mean that was her heart but still and puberty hitting him in KH1
>Namine may as well have been blonde Kairi to him
>Xion took her form based on the person Sora valued most
>Those Kairi fantasizings in KH2 + that scene where he gets down on his knees and begs to Saix to give her back to him god even remembering it is fucking painful jesus
Removing her may as well change the story and Sora's personality itself,
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>>376471107
The power of the heart.
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>>376471137
>Removing her may as well change the story and Sora's personality itself,

Good, If that means he stops being ana idiot and becomes someone like Ven would be rad.
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>>376471137
>when Sora finally meets Kairi in 2
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>>376471579
holy shit did she really do this in the game?
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>>376471707
This is basically what happened.
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>Kingdom Hearts 3 was announced 4 years ago
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>>376471843
>kingdom hearts 2 was 30 years ago
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>>376471843
stop making me remember
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It really wouldn't have changed. She was one of the princesses, having one less wouldn't have changed anything

The fact that she can use a key blade out of fucking no where and now she's being trained is something that pretty stupid through.

Same with Axel. Mother fucker literally went "Man I wish I had a key blade", stuck his hand out, and a mother fucking key blade appears, holy shit was my mind blown out of stupidity.
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>>376467892
by the end of KH2 he is over Kairi, but in KH1 he was definitely just as into her.
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>>376472206
>by the end of KH2 he is over Kairi
Except he isn't.
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>>376473531

Fair, but it's been overshadowed by his raging hard on for Riku. DDD is also completely about him and Riku being soul mates, so the feeling as of late is that Kairi has taken a backseat.
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>>376461415
WHAT'S IN THE BOX THOUGH?
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>>376474303
more
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>>376453626
thats nasty anon
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Finished 2.5 and considering picking up 2.8. Honestly guys, just how bad is DDD's story?
I know a number of story beats like Lea coming back with a keyblade, something stupid with Young Xehanort and time travel, and Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas coming back. Does it get much worse than that? The story isn't the main reason I play them but it's always been interesting in its own convoluted way at least.

Also, are there horrible minigames like in BBS? Those shits are the reason it was the only journal I didn't finish.
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>>376474476
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i just tried to fight xemnas in kh1 and i keep dying because he gets me with that command lock attack. and then i almost kill sephiroth and he gets me with heartless angel while he has 1 hp left. fuck this game
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Kairi a shit
Sora is gay for Riku
Namine did nothing wrong
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>>376475014
there isn't anything bad in any of the stories in kingdom hearts. you either like it or you don't. you pretty much got the main points of DDD. and there is a couple mini games for your dream eaters that aren't required, and a flick rush mini game that isn't as bad as the command board in bbs
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>>376475150
Use gravity on Mansex and make sure you've got the best keyblade you've got on him. As for Sephy, just make sure to have elixirs and prep them when he does the sin harvest, making sure you're far enough away so he doesn't slice you right after you drop to 1HP.
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>>376474303
>>376475060
Wasted potential. If shitty Even gets to come back so should she.
>>376475150
Sephiroth leaves himself super open when he uses Heartless Angel. Just superglide at him and smack him around. If you're playing 1.5+2.5, the FPS jump messed with some of his attacks and it's mostly better to block than to dodge a lot of his stuff. And Xemnas's command attack is crap but keep at it. Unless you're on proud mode he's a fight you can just beat by leveling up and pushing him.
>>376475405
The ice cream rhythm game is what got me with BBS. I'd kill Unknown a dozen more times before going back to that garbage.
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>>376475014

It could be frustrating due to sheer lack of logic involved with the story and decision making, but game play wise you'll probably have fun.

Flow motion is cool but it completely shatters the game. The drop meter is also a pain in the ass and sort of discouraged exploration imo. I think the game is fun in between thinking about those two things.
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>>376475594
One can hope. But given she and the others in the castle were all apparently just randos that got added to the Organization after the original members, they could just be left blowing in the wind with nary but a mention.
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Kairi exists to convert Sora/Riku and incorrect but still hot somehow Riku/Sora homoerotic plain text that exists on the page into homoerotic subtext that is not even there what are you talking about bro nobody is gay I think you are projecting.
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>>376475014
The story isn't as people make it out to be, the only thing I hate about DDD is the tacked on Pokemon mechanic. It can be ignored for the most part but if you want good abilities like Leaf Bracer you gotta put some time into it.
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>>376475594
i am on proud mode and trust me i really tried to beat xemnas but i don't understand that command lock. as for sephiroth i can beat his ass
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I eagerly await the next story update of the Mobage.
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>>376458563
>better then force awakens
>not a flagship
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>>376453119
Actually official art shows that it's just giant SHOES are a fashion trend.
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>>376458520
Even the non-h stuff is mostly gay.
Which is a shame since samwise is a great artist.
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>>376476716
i dont think its a shame
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>>376467892
When he's knocked out in battle one of his quotes is "Kairi..."
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>>376451523
>Final
KH3 is just the end of the Xehanort Arc.
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>>376476871
Go home fujo.
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>>376476881
Doesn't really confirm much other than his concern for the only one of his friends who isn't able to summon god killing lasers from their keyblade.
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If not for Kairi, who's heart would Sora have not let Riku take?
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>>376475607
Kingdom Hearts characters have a strong track record of poor decision making so what else is new.

>>376475810
You have to be strong in body and heart to become a nobody with memories after your heart is taken though. Marluxia and Larxene had to have been somebody relevant somewhere.

>>376476248
>Sora can try casting Gravity because if it hits while locked on to Xemnas, he won't move or release any attack for a short time as he gets stunned and Sora will receive Tech Points. Xemnas can then be attacked, but be ready to use Dodge Roll to avoid his counterattack. The safe way to do this is attack him exactly three hits after Gravity hits him, then Dodge Roll and repeat Gravity. Also, cast the spell on him at the right time, as Xemnas might have a chance of shaking the spell off during an attack, even though Tech Points are gained, there is a chance he will retaliate hard.
That's how I beat him on Proud.

The command lock thing has Shock and Release replacing your four option. If you press Shock, you'll take alot of damage. Move the cursor to the 2nd position (so you can cover 3 slots with only 2 button presses) to prepare to press Release, which releases you, as soon as it appears. Takes a bit of luck.
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>>376477232
I know, but it doesn't necessarily mean they were important enough to be considered major players for later. And considering they barely get any extra development in Days, and may be amongst the "failures" for Nort's body snatching, they could easily just get passing mentions and nothing else. Personally I would hope not, as it would be fun to see Larxene return and still maybe be something of a crazy bitch even as a Somebody, but it's best to not give one's hope up.
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>>376451216
Yes, its just a big yaoi fanfic Chris-Chan could write better.

The protagonist even looks like Chris from Sonic X.
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>>376451216
They're about 5 years too late for me. I'm not even hype for 3 anymore. I played 1/CoM/2 when I was like 13-16 and thought it was the best thing ever, but I don't think I can get into it anymore. Last one I played was BBS in 2012 and I could barely get myself to finish it.
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>>376477464
Marluxia has a pretty high chance of coming back considering the new Nobody that used flower petals.
So that speaks well of Larxene's chances.
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donald duck is the worst rpg part member of all time
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>>376478000
praise kek
fuck dolan
if he was nice to riku in KH1 so many problems wouldn't have even came up
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>>376477985
Maybe. Though it could easily just mean the Nobodies they controlled are still around. Seeing as how they were "killed" in RE:CoM, they wouldn't have their Nobody status anymore and would return as Somebodies. Though of course Nomura might bullshit new powers onto them if he does decide to remember them.
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>>376477819

>BBS was 5 years ago

Where has the time gone...
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>>376478000
he is good in kingdom hearts 1. casting aero on me all the time, doing gravity and stop on enemies. same with goofy, he just wrecks and he just walks into enemies. but they fucking suck in 2. hopefully they are back to being great in 3
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>>376478232
BBS was 7 years ago. I only played it 5 years ago though.
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>>376469368
>TFW you will never take that hand
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>>376478095
>Hey, come with us!
>No, he can't.
>Why not?
>Fuck you, that's why.

Seriously. He gave NO reason as to why Riku couldn't tag along. Never said "there's not enough room on the ship" or "I don't trust him" or anything.
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>>376478095
>>376478267
It came down to customization. If you did it right the party members were fine against anything but the super bosses.
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>>376451216
Chain of Memories fucking sucks. Do I lose anything by just watching all the cutscenes?
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>>376478540
You won't be sleighted by just watching the cutscenes, no
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>>376478540
Not really. Hell, you could easily watch the cutscenes of every game and get the full picture that way, only missing out on the gameplay of each title. Of course, the series has always been hit or miss depending on who you ask.
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>>376478143
Well everyone seemingly got to keep their powers when they got back to being somebody.

I mean it makes sense for Lexaus and Xaldin since they were the royal guard before being turned, but Axel as far we know was some regular kid. Unless that theory about him and Saix being among the human experiments mentioned in KH1 Ansem reports.
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>>376478540
You fucking suck. But here, just for you.

Sora find castle. As he go up he lose memory. It was Namine, Kairi's Nobody messing with his memory. Marluxia was using her to rewrite Sora's memory for his use. Sora get to top. Beat Marluxia. Sora go to sleep to get memory back.

Now fuck off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vVL8xAy8pI
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>Going through Chain of Memories right now
>My soul when
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>>376468907
source?
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>>376452431
At no point did it ever imply that becoming Nobodies gave them powers. Those are the same magical powers everyone else in the series has.
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>>376451216
When they wouldn't make up their minds on what platform to make the games exclusives to.

The HD releases of the 3DS/DS titles for the PS4/PS3 don't count for me IMHO since they are mostly HD cutscenes.
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Nobodies were a mistake.
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>>376481445

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYMO4f0AsjM
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>>376481218
It's weird tho if being a nobody didn't give you powers since even the generics have abilities.

Also funny enough canonically except for Creepers ALL the other nobodies you see are in costumes and fully capable of speech. As evidence in the Roxas segment and novel and manga.
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>>376451216
>Would the story have been better without Kairi altogether?

Yes. Sora and Riku fucking each other all over the magical world of Disney would make the franchise a 10/10
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>>376458249
DDD only happens the way that it does because of Re:coded.

It's because of that adventure that Mickey got a clue about Ven's whereabouts, which is why Yen Sid had Sora and Riku explore the Sleeping Worlds.

Without Re:coded, DDD would be 100% different, because the entire plot revolves around the machinations of dreams, and they would not have gone into the Sleeping Worlds if not for having learned that Ven's heart was sleeping somewhere.
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Roxas should've been the protagonist of KH2.

>Nobody finds out his entire life is a lie.
>Traverses cartoon worlds to find his place and meet the real version of his friends.
>He tries to reconnect his lost memories of once being in Organization XIII and trying to stop them.
>At the end of the game Sora finally wakes up for KH3.
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>>376465724
>The game ends with sora saying that he has to leave DI because the people connected to him need him.
That scene takes place after reading the letter he received in KHII

Which is a letter written by Mickey after the events of Re:coded
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>>376470826
>and hearts can't be encoded as data
Sora was able to go into Space Paranoids though
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The series would be better if the story took place linearly and wasn't filled with fucking awful titles whose only relevance to the plot is a single event. Prove me wrong.
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>>376482169
Sounds like you're proposing a story that values plot events over... everything else involved in telling a story.

So you're wrong.
Objectively.
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>>376482169

For the autistic people who still love the series, the convoluted timeline is half the fun. Same for Zelda fags
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>>376483061
Except Zelda's timeline was pulled right out of Aonuma's asshole. I don't know why they ever thought there was a chronology to begin with.
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>>376483396
Name 1 way that the timeline doesn't make sense, that doesn't boil down to "I don't like alternate timelines"
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>Spanish Leaker said Nomura takes the polls very seriously
Rejoice, Sora, Aqua, and Fujofags.

Despair, people with actual taste
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>>376483849
That image is of Data-Sora, though. Data-Sora is the best character in the series, bar none.
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>>376483849
His actual interview says otherwise
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>>376483849
>Fujofags

>Sora x Kairi and Roxas x Xion
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>>376451216
You can tell they didn't plan on a sequel when kh1 was finished.
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>>376484818
They admitted that not too long after kh1 came out
The secret trailer at the end was just concepts of what could happen next
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>>376484818
>game ends on a cliffhanger
>didn't plan on a sequel
???
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>>376483530
Name 1 way that it does

Because literally none of it makes sense.
Some games are clearly tied chronologically, like OoT and MM.
But as an entire series, it's completely busted.

So much so, that it's the precise reason why there are multiple timelines.

They literally created a timeline based on getting a game over in OoT.
And OF COURSE the fan-favorite is where the core of the timeline just happens to be, making it super important!

The Legend of Zelda is just that. A legend. Told across time, changing with the world.
Link is to Hyrule as Zeus is to Greece.
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>>376484818
Nigga, that ending might be the most obvious sequel bait in video game history.
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>>376461415

>nobody ever dies in the series. When they become heartless and nobodies, and those two parts die, they come back to life

Worst timeline.
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>>376485283
Not so. The Heartless needs to be killed first or the defeated Nobody will drift away with nothing to reattach to.

Why do I know this? Kill me.
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>>376485186
>>376485037

>>376484998
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>>376485467
Not even talking about the secret ending though.
>Riku and Micket stuck on the other side of the door
>Sora promising to find Kairi again
>Sora Donald and Goofy getting the letter from Pluto
Multiple cliffhangers. You can't seriously tell me they didn't plan on a sequel.
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>>376485585
>If there really is going to be a continuation, then I would like not to reveal any more about the clip since it will actually have to do with the sequel. If enough people demand for it, then it might be revealed in the form of a sequel.
http://kh-ultimania.livejournal.com/3971.html#cutid1
He was unsure if kh1 would be popular enough for it
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>was in high school when KH2 came out
>been out of college for 4 years, have a salary job
>still no KH3

You can argue all this nonsense about HURR THEY HAD TO TELL THE STORY OF AQUA AND VENTUS AND SHIT but it never mattered in the first game, the interquel, or the sequel. It only mattered AFTER Nomura retconed the whole series.

Didn't buy the remakes, the 3DS game, or 2.8.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I even need KH3 at this point. KH2 ends with Sora going home with all his friends. Mickey says "ay yo I need you someday" in a letter, but who cares? Nomura is retroactively inventing new motivations for characters because he accidentally kinda wrapped the series up.
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>>376486109
>I'm not sure if I even need KH3 at this point
then don't play it
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>>376486109
Well, they kinda established the whole "being able to come back when the nobody and heart become one thing" when Sora was revived in KH2. It's continuation was actually foreshadowed but not lingered on like most plot important events.
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>>376486109
Nomura could have named BbS KHIII if he wanted to.

The number means f u c k i n g n o t h i n g
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>>376486109
I agree that the ending to kh II was petty satisfying. Really, the only reason kh III needs to happen is xehanort, and that came to fore only in BBS. It's like when a manga artist wraps up an arc with no loose ends and has to jump start the next one without much momentum.
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>>376486530
Xehanort was in KHII as Ansem's apprentice, though
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>>376485283

Don't you have to die in a special way to create a heartless, and then be a big deal to create a nobody that's got a brain?

I guess we deal only with big wigs in the spotlight of the story, so naturally they're all going to constantly split and merge.
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>>376486647
Indeed, but he didn't have the kind of universal significance he does now because his origin as Master xehanort and Terra didn't exist. I think that back story is what really drives the current plot.
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>>376486428
When people say they want KH3, they're not talking about a number.
They want to go on adventures as Sora, with Donald and Goofy as backup. They want gameplay like KH2, not the shitty command deck.

If you can't see why someone would be disappointed by a game starring three random fucks who didn't exist before, with a comparatively shitty style of gameplay, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>376486747
Well, yeah. But it's clear that Nomura was already thinking about what would come next when he was doing KHII, with The Gathering and especially the FM content.
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Is DDD the comfiest game in the series?
>purple/black theme
>flowmotioning all over the place
>trivial combat once you break the system
>terrible, hilarious plot that you can't be expected to take seriously- so absurd it's consistently entertaining
>Sora and Riku in the same game without CoM bullshit
>mutherfucking kawaii-ass Dream Eater pokemon you can play with and even pet with the 3DS/PS4 touch pad
>garbage mechanics so you can't get too into the gameplay, just sit back and mash whatever works
>dat soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yA6CPWR3Hw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5pOhEJs08A
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>>376486841
>They want gameplay like KH2, not the shitty command deck.
Nah nig

Most people literally only care about it being numbered.
They won't even try the non-numbered games, because "muh KHIII," so there's no way they'd be able to complain about gameplay changes.
These people think they're spin-offs, not worth investing time into. They probably don't even know that the gameplay is different.
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Since this is a KH thread I have a question for you all:

what is objectively the best choice for a critical mode run?

pic related
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>>376486428
most retarded post of the year award goes to this guy
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>>376486868
I only disagree because of the Dive system. Every decision was weighed down with the question "do I even have time to do the thing?" and made things rather stressful, especially during bossfights. I more than a few times clutched it out with mere seconds left on some of them because of the Dive system. It makes you rush, that ain't comfy.
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>>376487134
I don't feel the rush, but I already know the entire story and don't feel a need to beat things any faster.
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>>376487134
There are items and drop bonuses that make it a joke
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I want to make Aqua happy!!!
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>>376487069
pick shield give up sword
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>>376487380
I want to make Aqua fight the Demon Tide on Critical for 100 years of Realm of Light time!!
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>>376486868

I like the positive spin on the negative qualities, but you can't spin the fucking drop system. Time limits stress everyone out, and it almost discourages exploration and leisurely play.
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>>376487478
Aqua's legs are so lovely.
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>>376451216
She is such a non factor how the fuck could anyone care about her unless they're a pedophile
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>>376487380

Aqua truly is the purest waifu.

>Tfw Terra was too busy being emo and worrying about his inner coldsteel to notice how much Aqua cared about him.
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>>376487069
You posted a KH1 image then asked about critical mode which isn't in KH1

great post
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>>376487380
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>>376487380
that ending was bullshit. fucking osaka team.I better see top waifu in KH3 or I'm going to lose it.
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>>376487529

Post more Aqua
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>>376485097
>Hero and villain continue to reincarnate throughout time

What's so hard to get?
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>>376487650
Holy fuck is this what the remakes look like?! So this is the power of the Sony TM PS4...
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>>376487650
>>376487692
>>376487729
I just get very happy from looking at her.
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>>376487835
Hell no. Cut scenes aren't 60 fps, only gameplay.

>>376487875
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>>376487812
It's not hard to get, but that doesn't really create a continuous narrative, nor does it negate the concept of a legend.

The best thing you can do in constructing a timeline is examining the world the story is told in and finding common elements to link the worlds together.

The actual events of the games? Not real.
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>>376487912
How are we seeing this smooth magic then? What's the secret if it's not the remastering
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>>376469657
Considering that Unknown is the only one that's explicitly canon (aside from maybe Sephiroth), I think it's reasonable for it to be the most memorable one. They added new Ansem Reports to build up to it and everything.

Lingering Sentiment was a great fight, but why the fuck did a portal just appear in Disney Castle to take you to the graveyard? Why does Young Master Xehanort randomly attack Terra/Ven/Aqua? It just gives the feeling that these boss fights are non-canonical, and only there as the vaguest of teasers for the next game. Either way, I don't think they'll ever top Unknown now that everyone knows how off-the-rails the story is and nobody really cares enough to speculate on new plot hints.
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>>376488039
Emulation.
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>>376487912
Would she get self-conscious if I look at her spats?
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>>376458520

Larxene has literally nothing. I know CoM is shit but come on.
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>>376488102
If we had 1 artist for every 10,000 fan fiction writers we'd have a treasure trove of Larxene porn to drown in happily until the end of times.
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>>376488084
Maybe.
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What's the point of showing off her navel? She shouldn't be showing off such a lewd thing that would entice people to tie her up spread eagle just so they could have undeterred access to it, being able to kiss and lick it, rub it with melting but still cold popsicles and lick the popsicle melt out of it, and tickle it with your finger and feather. That's just wrong and she shouldn't encourage that kind of behavior.
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Aqua spoiler.
Dudes what if Aqua's gameplay was actually foreshadowing and we get to play as her during her grand escape in 3?
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>>376488084

Aqua's design is a testament to the nature of 2d. No 3dpd could ever look so elegant with short hair, and so we see yet again that only waifus can be perfect.
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>>376488230
Larxene is too boring to fap to. Now Larxene forcing herself on Roxas in a moment of unstoppable sexual craving, and Roxas spending the rest of his year wondering if he should tell Axel...
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>>376488319
>>376488431

I want to have dinner with her.
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>>376481614
The only power being a Nobody grants is resistance to darkness due to (initially) lacking a heart.

Roxas' only powers are those which he possessed as Sora (wielding a Keyblade, light powers).
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>>376453545
I was under the impression that Sora was constantly fucking regressing anyway, not hard to believe Kairi would catch up.
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>>376451216
I never understood why we needed Donald Duck, Goofy, and other Disney characters intermingling with generic JRPG characters.

Why the fuck is this game series a thing?
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>>376487729
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>ywn have gravure photoshoots with Aqua
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>>376491147
Her spats and booty look so smooth...
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