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What exactly went wrong?
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it doesn't have monster hunter 5 yet
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>>376442874
It's actually successful so far. Poor sonyfriends.
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It's a gay tablet with super weak hardware that melted in it's dock. If they didn't screw Wii U customers by basically cancelling their exclusive Zelda game nobody would have bought this piece of shit.
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Nintendo Switch is Nintendo's fastest-selling console.
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I've nearly finished I am Setsuna and the next RPG is Disgease 5. My main problem with the switch is the lack of rpgs.
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It's an underpowered tablet.
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>>376443075
Because normies think this is Nintendo's first console in 11 years since nobody knew the U existed. It won't beat Wii sales in the long run.

The Wii had terrible retention btw. Meaning people bought it, maybe one game plus Wii Sports, and never touched it again.
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>>376442874

Nintendo wanting to push the single joy-con-controller gimmick. The left Joycon would have a proper Dpad if Nintendo wasn't trying to appeal to the college frat party audience.
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>>376443112
Pretty sure that'll change by the end of 2018

>new SMT
>Xenoblade 2
>Octopath Traveller
>Seiken Collection
>DQXI
>DQX
>I Am Setsuna
>Disgaea 5
>newest mainline FE
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>>376442874
It attracts too much autistic complaints from Sony™ PlayStation 4 fans
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>>376442874
Nothing, it just needs more games.
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>>376443352
>The Wii had terrible retention btw. Meaning people bought it, maybe one game plus Wii Sports, and never touched it again.

Nintendo didn't sell at a loss so they made profit on every console sold. Nintendo's mantra is forward thinking with lateral technology. The Switch is an awesome handheld, it's only failing being the sub-par battery life.
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>>376443468
Oh yeah, and one more

>Mario & Rabbids RPG

>>376443462
>if Nintendo wasn't trying to appeal to the college frat party audience.

I thought that they added the local multiplayer aspect to Switch so that they could sell the product easier to family and friends that don't own Switch.

You don't have to go out of your way to buy an extra controller when you bring it outside your room and play with your family and friends because you can just attach the joycons to the unit and pop it out for quick local multiplayer setup.

I did this the other day at work with my supervisor after work and we attracted a large group of coworkers while playing Mario Kart.

The thing sells itself in that way.
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it looks so drap and unappealing in the grey colors, but in the neon colors it just begs me to pick it up. wonder why they didn't just make neon default
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>>376443538
>>376443538
>>376443538
This.
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>>376443352
>The Wii had terrible retention btw. Meaning people bought it, maybe one game plus Wii Sports, and never touched it again.
False, it had a good attach rate, and actually had a better one than PS3 for a while. Wii software sold very well in general with the best-selling games on a single platform all being on the Wii.
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>>376442874
Quality thread man!
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>>376443352
so what you are saying is the switch is doing amazing
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>>376442874
No games.

Zelda was so boring I couldn't be bothered to play it on a 12 hour flight with nothing else to do.
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>>376443352
>http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/29/these-are-nintendos-lifetime-hardware-and-software-numbers

Wii had a good attach rate, you're literally just spouting a meme.

Wii U also has a good attach rate, its about 7.2 right now, right behind PS4.
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>>376444113
Is your favorite game Horizon Zero Dawn, by chance?
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>>376442874
Selling too fast, not everyone is able to get one.
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>>376442874
It was a dumb idea made in total desperation before they even tried to get any third-party devs on board. Their best third party software is a fucking 6 year old game which now has mods on every other modern platform it's available for.
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>>376442874
Trash Fisher Price Lego tablet with NOGAEMS

I swear, Nintendicksuckers would buy vacuum sealed shits if it was sold by MUH NINTENDO
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>>376442874
Is it going wrong?
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>>376444296
Nah. Neokikeshitendo totally calculated this.
See the Wii U prototype for reference. It's basically a Wii gimmicks rip off.
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>>376442874
>dock scratches screen
>joy con disconnects for no reason
>no themes
>no miiverse
>overprinced controllers
>paid online
>can't copy save data
>literally all good games are ports
>shit battery life

tell me again why normies eat this shit up?
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>>376444296
>>376444548
And this is Neokieshitendo's attempt to ripoff the Wii U, also implementing those shitty waggle gyro controls to get the casual normie cock sucker casuals.
God, Nintendo is so fucking trash. I wish they would eat shit and go bankrupt.
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>>376444604
>psst... the answer is mario kuck 8: deluxe
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>>376443047
I own a Wii U and enjoy BOTW on that. Havent bought a switch yet
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>>376443737
but the 3ds also had a subpar battery live.
I litteraly dont get this meme. Nintendo handhelds always last only 3-4 hours, unless it needs batteries like GB, GBC and GBA.
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>>376444749
>literally no difference from the wii u version aside 2 new skins
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No other console can compete against it.
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>>376443737
>Nintendo's mantra is forward thinking with lateral technology
You've mangled this one. Their actual mantra was "Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology". When they say withered technology, they're talking about the fact that all their handhelds use processing tech that was 5-10 years outdated at launch. It was cheap for Nintendo and easy for their programmers. The mantra was also applied to the development of the WIi and Wii U, and the Switch is the first Nintendo product in quite some time to use extremely current technology. People have scoffed at the Tegra X1 chip, but it was only about a year old, and still hasn't been replaced by Nvidia. A distinct change from all the design choices of the last few gens.
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>>376445036
>/v/ finally confirms there is literally no difference between 720p and 1080p
I mean, like, you can't even see anything past 540p anyway.
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>>376445184
the ps4 is $50 cheaper and you already have a library of bretty gud games
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>>376445209
No, it's exactly what was described. What constitutes "withered" is entirely subjective, you're just projecting your own personal feelings and attitudes and changing the meaning accordingly to fit what you've already decided is the reality in contrast to what actually is.
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>>376445184
vita already does what switch claims to.
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>>376445330
A real tablet is even less and has ten times as many games, may as well get that :3
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>>376445369
What are you trying to say here? That the X1 is also withered technology? Can you justify that?
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It's only flaw is its small library
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I want one and i don't fucking know WHY
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>>376443774
There's a reason why NA didn't get the blue N3DSXL and isn't getting the white N2DSXL
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>>376442874
Nothing, we sell out of these at work the day we get them in stock.

We got 30 of them when mk8 came out for it, opened at 10, sold out around 3 pm. It's selling more than the wiiu as well.
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>>376445735
Releasing in March is going to turn out to have been a great move. They have the whole year to build up the library for the holiday season. Christmas 2017 is going to be Switchmas.
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>Gave into the hype at e3 2014
>cracked down and bought a wiiu
played mk8, zelda ww, shovel knight, bayonetta
>trade it in 2 years later for a ps4 because the ps4 had games I actually play more than once

Not sold on the switch. Maybe in two more years if it's got some good games.
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>>376445897
Can you imagine if PS4 and Scorpio don't have any big titles lined up for Christmas? Jesus, Nintendo might completely destroy this year.
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>another pointless gimmick that drives the price way up and limits its potential
>no games
>no potential for third party games
>shitty online capabilities
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>>376442874
really makes me think
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>>376446014
Can you imagine M$ rushing Project S for later this year just to compete with nintendo and then crashing and burning because they fucked up in rushing it?
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>>376443047
>If they didn't screw Wii U customers by basically cancelling their exclusive Zelda game

In what kind of retarded backwards world does this hold any actual meaning?

Pathetic you need to lie to yourself to feel happy.

If a Wii U customer felt "screwed" by the fact that a game they desired is available for people who own another system, then they can fuck themselves, but I doubt anyone without autism feels this way...

"OH WAH ZELDA CAN PLAY SWITCH TOO FUCK NINTENDO*
1st world problems much ?
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>>376442874
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>>376442874
Everything, it's Nintendo after all
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Don't you get tired of making these threads every 6 hours? Fuck off already.
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They ship 5 units to stores every week.
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>>376446224
>what you wish was true.jpg
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>>376442874
They don't fucking distribute units to sell.
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>>376446169
Sony's the bigger competitor DESU. They need the Christmas boost to sell too, so a spring launch next year won't work.
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>>376446323
Wrong sorry. They ship only to our store if there is a game releasing the same day.

t. Best Buy wageslave
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no games
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>>376446323
I live in NYC and Nintendo NY gets 50+ everyday.

Every time I walk by there for lunch there is always a significant line.
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>>376442874
What exactly went wrong?

Nothing, acording to sales, everything goes better than expected.
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>>376446482
>came out 2 months
>DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR WHERE DA GAMES AT CRACKA
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>>376442874
The umbilical chord wasn't tight enough around your neck and only gave you brain damage.
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>>376442874
Nothing, it's perfect! :D
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>>376446115
That is a lot of buzzwords and hypothetical "ifs"
typical of bullshit analysts and marketing departments.
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Nothing
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>>376444675
>I wish they would eat shit and go bankrupt.

You wish, but it never ever become reality.
You will die and Nintendo will still exist

Stay mad.
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Ugly as fuck
Isn't a good handheld nor console
Gimmick detachable controllers
Literally zero exclusives worthwhile
Zero purpose as a machine to succeed 3DS or sit by a PS4 which both do everything the Switch dose better
Port machine 3000

I dont see a single good thing about this system honestly
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Anyone else get weird out by people who preorder consoles and get them at launch? What's the point? To say "Oh yeah I have it." ?
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>>376444675
Imagine being this childish
And then imagine being this childinsh AND calling other people babies/manchildren/tenyearolds
Wew
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>>376447074
to play the launch title
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>>376444675
>I wish they would eat shit and go bankrupt.
You keep wishing that, it'll never ever happen.
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>>376447268
You have 30 seconds to name an actual good launch title. I'll wait.
>inb4 "BoTW is a good one!"
Yeah but I can get it on a wiiu which I've had already for two years.
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>>376447074
to play one of the greatest game of all time.
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>>376447426
Oh no
He thinks his experience is the same as everyone else's
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too successful, nintendo can't keep up with the enormous demand it has
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>>376442874
2006-2009 ptsd
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>>376447426
Good for you, the other 99% of the human population doesn't have a Wii U, so they bought it to play that.
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>>376446482
It took the PS4 1.5 years to get ONE game.
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>>376447763
True I guess, that's when I bought mine anyways
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>>376447587
>the other 99% of the human population doesn't have a Wii U,
>they don't have a console that came out 5 years ago
Their fault then. I see you couldn't list a game either, thanks for playing!
>>376447512
>didn't list a game
Thanks for playing!
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>>376448658
BotW
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>>376443352
Holy shit, this much butt hurt. Why don't you stamp your feet while you're at it, you silly child?
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>>376448738
You can get BotW on a WiiU. Good try though.
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>>376449016
>you can get it on a dead console
Good try though
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>>376449095
A console that has been out for 5 years and has given people plenty of time to buy.

Also not an argument. Good try though!
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>>376444675
Fucking Christ, what a deluded little kiddie you are.

I'm actually glad that Nintendo will always be around, will always be swimming in cash and always releasing games that receive unparalleled critical acclaim - just to keep the uneducated little shit stains like you enternally crying.
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>>376449198
It's okay to be retarded. Just don't brag about it, mmmkay?
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>>376449354
Not an argument.
>he still can't list a game
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>>376449413
I would but I'm too busy playing my Switch.
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>>376449484
>buying a console at launch
>can't even list a game worth playing but he bought the console anyway
Seems like you were projecting that retard comment.
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>>376449016
BotW is available on Wii and Switch. Switch verison is the definitive version. What's your point?
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Should I just pick up BoTW on Wii U? I know the hype has died by now, but I'm still so fucking psyched to play this game.
I feel like I'm missing out on it just because I have autistic optimism that the Switch hardware revision will be released next year, and that the Wii U version will be inferior.

I hate that I wouldn't be able to aim with the Wii U Pro Controller using motion controls. It was a huge bummer when I tried playing at my bud's place and I had to use the janky sticks to aim my throws and arrows.
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Another weak gimmick console, this time with even less games lined up.
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>>376449614
Yes, god forbid a fucking video game enthusiast would want to buy brand new hardware and software from the most revered and respected video game developer on the planet.

The absolute madman.
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>>376449413
Breath of the Wild. You've been given a game several times, sweetie, you're just pretending it doesn't count.
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>>376449727
I haven't played the Wii U version, but are you sure your friend didn't just turn off motion controls in the options?
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>>376446173
Just like how they screwed fucking n64 owners when they released majora, ocarina for 3ds. And GameCube owners when they put windward on wii u. Fucking bullshit
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>>376449798
>most revered and respected video game developer
Nice opinion.
>>376449634
Botw was made for the Wiiu. The switch version is a port.
>>376449727
If you wanna drop 360$ for a game get it on the switch. If you just wanna play the game, just buy it for the wiiu.
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>>376449949
Why did you buy a Wii U and when?
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>>376449892
And again, BotW isn't a good launch title considering you can play it on a 5 year old console. Nice try sweetie.
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>>376450014
Bought it in 2014 for Bayonetta 2, Mk8, and Super Mario 3d land. Also got shovel knight on it when I bought it and enjoyed playing WW again on it.
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>>376449727
I bought it for WiiU at launch and I found that too. Went straight back to the gamepad for the gyro, the analog sticks are terrible.
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>>376450023
>d-doesn't count!
sad
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>>376450139
Not an argument. Who are you quoting?

Sad
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>>376450023
>The quality of the game is predicated on the release date of the hardware its on
No, sweetie, not how it works.

Nice attempt at moving those goalposts, though. First it didn't count because it was also on Wii U, now it doesn't count because the Wii U is old? No, darling, you just can't do that.
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significantly weaker than ps4 and xbox one
no 3rd party
gimmicks
no games, or any coming in the near future
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>>376450023
>Nice try sweetie.
Go back to the shadow. You're on the wrong website.
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>>376450225
I'm quoting a sad Wii U cuck
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>>376449949
>Nice opinion.
That's not opinion. It's objective fact. Where have you been for the last 30 years. Do you want me to embarrass you with facts?
>Botw was made for the Wiiu. The switch version is a port.
BotW started development on Wii U. Once the design was made to release on the Switch, the game's design was brought into line with the hardware possibilities on Switch, not the other way around. But what does it even fucking matter?
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>>376442874
Your whole life led to this shitpost. Enjoy it, my friend, it is all yours.

> you
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>>376450023

>Nice try sweetie.

Gottem.
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>>376450258
Better tell that to
>>376449892
as well.
>>376450275
Care to point out where they said that or this "WiiU cuck" in general? I bet you can't do it just like you can't list an actual good launch title for any console.
>>376450276
No, it's an opinion. Please show me these "facts". btw if you go to sales numbers its over because using sales number I can show you WoW is actually a good mmo and CoD is the best FPS in existence.
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>>376450529
I said get off the website you enormous faggot.
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>>376450624
>this mad his opinions are shit
Make me, faggot.
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>>376444604
>dock scratches screen
Only if you're retarded
>joy con disconnects for no reason
only happened to a handful of joycons, fixed for free
>no themes
Soon™
>no miiverse
Twitter
>Over priced controllers
You won't be buying many anyway
>paid online
cheaper than the competition
>can't copy save data
Soon™
>all good games are ports
opinions and the console just fucking launched
>shit battery life
It's better than the Vita's and original 3DS line
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>>376450910
>opinions
no this is a fact. BoTw is a port from Wiiu, MK8 is a port from wiiu, binding of issac is a port from pc. 3 examples right there.
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>>376451129
>fact

Okay retard
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>>376451252
Please tell me how MK8 isn't a port. Please tell me how binding of issac isn't a port. I'll wait.

Also, not an argument.
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>>376451346
There's more on the console than just the 3 games.

And as I even said, the console just launched. Simmer down, bitchtits.
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>>376450529
>Please show me these "facts".

Show you these facts?! As if they're some kind of elusive untruth? It honestly makes me sad how uneducated you kids are.

Take a look at pic related. You know what that is? It's an SNES control pad, a refinement of Nintendo's NES pad. Every single major console for the past 25 years has based their controller on that design. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Take a moment to let that sink in; Nintendo were the company who decided HOW we will interact with games, and everyone has been riding their coattails every since.

Then consider Nintendo's mastery of game design, and how their innovation has continually reestablished the industry's perception of what video games can be.

Or how about how the entire modern video industry is built upon the business model that Nintendo put in place to control quality, licencing and compartmentalied regional release.

'Show me the facts'. How about you go read a fucking book?
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>>376451414
No one here is mad but you lad. Puyopuyo isn't an exclusive. Shovel Knight is a port and is on other consoles as well. Also saying "There is more than three games" is implying "Dude who cares if you dont like the games xD"

Obviously if you don't like the games you're not gonna buy the console and most likely will think it's just garbage.
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>>376451436
>dude I shouldn't have to show you facts to back up my claim!
I wonder if you got this ass blasted when you have to write an argumentative paper and you have to present your facts in said paper. You are the one who should read a book, starting with: Burden of Proof for Dummies
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>>376451436
this has to be pasta, if not this is clearly written by a nintenkiddie fan boy.

>Nintendo's master of game design
Last game that made me go "whoah" that nintendo shit out was metroid prime on the gc.
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>>376450529
>Care to point out where they said that or this "WiiU cuck" in general?
Sure, look at >>376450529
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>>376451414
The best selling games on ps4 are ports dummy: GTAV, TLOU, think before you open your mouth, the system is 8 weeks old.
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>>376451951
I'm not seeing it anon. Sorry. Guess there isn't any here.
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>>376452006
Get glasses
And a brain transplant too
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>>376450529
>>376450910
>>376451346

https://youtu.be/LenzNAyRnWU?t=3m26s
https://youtu.be/LenzNAyRnWU?t=6m37s
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>>376451704
Really, I thought I quite cleary posted a nice example of why the entire industy sits up and takes notice when Nintendo do anything.

Nintendo are kind of big deal in the video game world. Just because you can't accept that doesn't mean it's not true.
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>>376442874
High demand, low supply. Seriously Nintendo fucking restock already.
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>>376451436
This is objectively accurate.
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>>376451872
No, it's written by a jaded old school gamer who has been playing vidya since the Atari days. And I live in despair of of clueless some the kiddies on here are.
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>>376452065
>can't argue so he sticks to name calling
Seems like you need that yourself m8.
>>376452129
You didn't post anything besides 'Omg read a book dude xD dumb kid hehe" To which your argument falls flat considering you feel the need to insult in order to try and back your claim up. Take your own advice and read a book.
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>>376452265
>of of
Live in despair of some autism as well. Do you have these kinds of meltdowns in public when a kid ask you what a n64 is and why does it look dumb?
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>>376452329
I quite clearly posted a pic of a SNES pad and explained how it impacts console design to this day. Are you dense?
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>>376452329
What are you trying to achieve here?
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>>376451436
Nice pasta! Fucking saved.
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>>376452458
I'm posting on a fone and predictive text/ autocorrect has a mind of it's own.

Good to know that you have no real arguement and have to resort to shit posting about typos.
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>>376452329
Not that guy but BOTW on Switch was the definitive edition because 20 fps > 15 fps
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>>376443468
>new SMT
You mean the SJ remake?
>Seiken Collection
Only in japanese sadly.
>I Am Setsuna
>Disgea 5
Already came out on other platforms years ago.
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>>376452460
I see one sentence trying to explain why it was good and the rest of it is clouded by opinions and a manchild freaking out because someone is asking for facts to support their claim.
>>376452461
Getting Yous and it's working really well.
>>376452632
good to know you have autism!
>>376452639
Does that mean Wind Waker emulated on a PC is the definitive edition because you can pull more frames than the GC or Wiiu?

At least you tried though xD
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>>376452840
The SJ remake is going to be on the 3DS though.
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>>376452847
>Getting Yous and it's working really well.
yeah I figured
Pretty pathetic but whatever gets you to the end of the day
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>>376452847
Does the emulated version still have any bugs or glitches not found in the actual release versions?
If not then yeah I'd say it's the definitive version.
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>>376452639
>tfw all nintendo games emulated on a PC are the definitive version because more fps and filters
PC wins again!
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>>376452953
Thanks for another one.
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>>376443468
>new SMT
>DQXI
>new FE
those are the only good ones.
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>>376452840
>You mean the SJ remake?
No the one they announced at the presentation in January but everyone was to upset 1-2 Switch to care.
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>>376452096

>Colin Was Right

But he's not lol
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>>376449016
Being able to get to get the game on WiiU makes it not a good game?
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>>376453074
No problem man
Anytime
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>>376453140
In a way. Makes it a piss poor launch title at least.
>>376453142
Thanks again!
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>>376445640
I'm looking for reasons to get one, but everytime I mention the shitty battery life and the lack of games, /v/tendo goes into "muh sony" mode like the spergs they are.
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>>376452840
SJ Deep is 3ds. SMT HD Project is coming to Switch.
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>>376453219
You'r welcome
As long as you admit you're baiting, we're good
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>>376452847
>rest of it is clouded by opinions
Imagine living your life in denial like this.
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>>376453248
There isn't a reason to get one unless:
1. You don't own a WiiU
2. You really, really, really love zelda
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>>376453283
Okay. Again, thanks for the Yous
>>376453302
Imagine having autism like you do and get mad when someone calls out your opinions.
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>>376453415
>Imagine having autism like you do and get mad when someone calls out your opinions.
like you've done for 30 posts?
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>>376453316
>2. You really, really, really love zelda
the new Zelda is pretty easy to love. Better to buy a Switch for it than a Wii U.
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>>376453492
Like you're doing right now?
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>>376442874
Nothing you fucking asshole, ask again when people that didn't preorder it actually got their fucking switch.
On that note, somebody personaly knows a scalper he wouldn't miss?
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>>376453415
>Opinions

They're not opinions kiddo. They're fact. Try arguing against my SNES control pad fact for example. I dare you. I WANT you
to try.
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>>376453596
no?
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>>376452928
>>376453114
I thought the trailer they showed at the direct and at the livestream were both meant for the switch actually
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>>376453316
3. You like couch co-op since Nintendo seems to be the only company besides indies that embrace the idea
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>>376453316
Thats my point. I already have a hacked Wii U.
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>>376453642
Saying nintendo is a master of game design is a fact. Your game pad argument can be argued saying the sony didn't follow their design consider they went with their own design after they had the fall out with nintendo over the playstation. So yeah. again, nice opinions.
>>376453646
Yes. Sorry.
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>>376453774
no, sorry
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>>376453695
4. You want to play the same games you play on your living room TV in bed.
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>no games
>old hardware
>screen gets scratched in the dock
>defective systems everywhere
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>>376453774
Wait they don't have a d pad or 4 face buttons or shoulder buttons on the PS controller?
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>new FE
>DQXI
>octopath traveller
>XC2
>new SMT

Is Switch THE jrpg console?
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>>376444391
This is the laziest shitpost I've seen in some time.
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>>376453874
They have 4, two more than the snes, had cross or x, square, triangle, and circle button. Controller fit into your hand better than the snes or amalgamation that was the n64 controller. So yeah, a different beast, Nintendo didn't have two shoulder buttons till the wii pro controller. Really activating my almonds right now.
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>>376453901
Maybe in another year, but 3DS and Vita are still holding onto that title.
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>>376453901
I'm waiting to see if Etrian Odyssey can be adapted to a platform with just 1 screen
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>>376453874
I guess since all you do is suck Nintendo's cock you would be uneducated about what non nintendo consoles had as controllers.
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>>376444604
>why normies eat this shit up?
because switch is the hype: the console.

and in the current year we live in hype is the only thing that matters.
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>>376454079
2 more shoulder buttons and changing the icons attached to the face buttons doesn't mean they aren't still basing their design off the SNES game pad.
You might need to activate something because you sure as shit aren't activating those brain cells.
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>>376453695
I don't need a switch for that.

>>376453853
I can do the same with my Wii U gamepad or my handhelds.
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>>376449943
>mad about remakes of decade old games
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>>376454362
Here you go retard
>>376454369
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>>376454445
Then don't buy one?
You asked for reasons we were just giving you some.
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>>376453774
>Your game pad argument can be argued saying the sony didn't follow their design

What? Shows how little you know about gaming kiddo. If you were to ask someone who knows nothing about video games to draw a control pad, they will instinctively draw somthing resembling an NES pad - directional controls on the left, action buttons on the right, one or two indirect function buttons in the middle. That Nintendo's design. They came up with that. It's theirs. It's so ingrained into popular culture most kiddies like you don't even realise where it came from.

The Sony is completely based on the SNES pad. Directional controls on the left, action buttons on the right (in the same diamond configuration), two function buttons in the middle, shoulder buttons on top.

The only thing that Sony added was the elongated handles.

I should probably point out that Sony hastily added analogue control sticks as soon as they saw the N64 pad and realised that it was a literaral game changer for the way games would be played. Thank fuck Nintendo were always there to show the industry how it should be done, eh?
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>>376453774
>after they had the fall out with nintendo over the playstation
they created the playstation and they are now murdering it.

talk about creating your own villain.
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>>376454445
Unless you live in a tiny house, the gamepad's signal doesn't go that far.
Handheld games are almost always different from console games.
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>>376454369
>argue my point
>okay here you go
>haha you're dumb!
Why did I even bother?
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>>376454695
Nintendo didnt invent thumbsticks. I'll thank the original inventor, there's no need to try and rewrite history because you love Nintendo so much, people like you should be really be crusified
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>>376455221
Why did you even bother just to show off your inability to read what people have written?
Consider suicide or at the least fuck off from /v/
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>>376454695
>what is the sega genesis controller
I used play station as the easy example.
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>>376454601
Yea I was asking for reasons and you don't got any. At this point, there's no reason to get a switch, because you can get the same with a Wii U just cheaper and on top of that the Wii U is fully hackable, is backwards compatible and has free online multiplayer.
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>>376455389
Isn't this just the NES pad with a C button
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>>376455342
>still can't counter argue my points and results to buzzwords
this is getting sad.
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>>376455529
(You) should learn to read
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>>376455521
Isn't the NES pad an atari joy stick with another button?
>>376455584
You should learn what burdan of proof is before having a spergout when someone asks you to post facts. Then when someone does counter argue you, you counter argue back instead of settling to just calling them buzzzwords lmao
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>>376455429
Actually we gave you 4 reasons. I'm glad you found some use for your Wii U purchase fortunately for me I didn't buy one so I'm quite happy with the Switch ports and all.
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>>376455674
>Isn't the NES pad an atari joy stick with another button?
No. It absolutely isn't.
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>>376455305
Ahhh.. here we go.

>N-Nintendo didn't invent that!

Nintendo fucking implemented it in a way that nobody else had the balls to try. Nintendo have always been about taking risks. Sony, on the otherhand, have sat on the same fucking control design for the past 20 years because they have no idea how to innovate fuck all and are constantly looking over Nintendo's shoulder. Remember when they desperately added a touchpad to the contoller just incase Nintendo were onto something with the Wii U? Nintendo might continually fuck up but at least they TRY.
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>>376455674
umad
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>>376455784
Looks like the joy stick moved to a dpad on the nes controller and added one button desu.
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>>376455817
Thanks for digging your own grave deeper! Here's a last you.
>>376455816
And them trying has got them no where in the past 10 years. Funny how you praise them so much when they peaked around 1995.
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>>376455389
The saturn controller is better.

>>376455521
No the dpad is way better than Nintendos or Sonys, but you'd knew that if you ever used one.
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>>376455674
Your "argument" is that somehow expanding the design of the SNES controller by adding two more shoulder buttons and renaming the face buttons means they are no longer using that design. If you believe this then you are a fucking moron. Here's your last (You) faggot. Spend it wisely.
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>>376455816
They didn't invent that either buddy boy.

I thank companies who actually develop the tech. I don't thank Nintendo who simply piggybacks off it

>Sony PS2 Motion Controller 5 years ago (2004)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbSzmRt7HhQ

Stop being a Nintendo fanboy right now.
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>>376456051
>n-no! The d-pad is better!
I'm not asking if it's better or not. Please learn to read. You'd know how to if you ever used a book.
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>>376456141
nintendo babbys btfo
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>>376455389
Wow, it almost like SEGA came up with that control pad design all on their own.

What do you not get? Before the NES, control pads were a fucking joke.

Nintendo designed a pad layout which had directional controls on the left, action buttons on the right, indirect function buttons in the middle.

After Nintendo made that design, EVERYONE copied it. The Sega Master System, Sega Megadrive/Genesis and NEC PC Engine/TurboGrafx all copied it.

And Nintendo's SNES pad is still copied in today's generation of consoles.
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>>376456141
watch out! You'll just be called a kid again!
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>>376456297
And it's almost like Nintendo didn't invent half the shit they did today! Wow!
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>>376456141
It's about RISK you dumb fuck. Nintendo have never taken the easy path and continued to push the envelope of what gaming actually is.

The desperation of Sony and Mircosoft to chase after the Wii was hilariously embarrassing.

Risk doesn't always pay off. But let's hate on a company for trying, right? Stupid kiddies.
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>>376456141
Dumb hamster poster
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>>376442874
NO FUCKING GAMES, I thought this shit was just a meme that /v/ kept spouting but after I beat LoZ, which only took 2 days because it didn't have a hard mode, I had nothing to play besides e-shop trash that I already played. LoZ wasn't even that good
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>>376456429
What are you even trying to say? You DO realise this is NOT an argument right? This is part of documented history. There is no argument. It's like trying to deny the holocaust.
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>>376456705
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>>376456145
I said its not the same and you would know why if you ever had one which you don't. Segas dpad has 4 more directions, has more fluent controls and is way better suited for gaming especially fighting games.
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>>376456586
Microsoft going after Kinect was funny at first, but then it just became sad.
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>>376451129
There is no reason to make MK9, while MK8 was the best so far, they just polished it in Deluxe Version - there are some changes, but probably decent retard wouldnt even notice. And it's portable now. I totally buy it to be honest. BotW was released on Wii U just because they promised it and Nintendo delivered.
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>>376456779
Name me a game then? I already own a wii u with most of the switch eshop library on it
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>>376442874

Nothing. Great system for what it's meant to do, great games have come out for it, and well worth owning.
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>>376443352
>The Wii had terrible retention btw. Meaning people bought it, maybe one game plus Wii Sports, and never touched it again.
woah, sounds like a PS4
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>neither the Wii nor the WiiU had an exclusive Zelda game

>chances are the Switch wont either

>the "New Switch" with slightly upgraded hardware will probably release in a couple years

Fuck Nintendo at this point, seriously.
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>>376456985
Most people didn't buy a Wii U
I'm sorry you made a poor decision then made an even dumber one by picking up a Switch when you had a Wii U
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>>376457006
>a great game has came out for it

fixed that for you, we just have to wait till Splatoon 2 comes out and we can get some /v/ games going till then its collecting dust
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>>376457270
>moving the goalposts this much

The Switch has no games yet, that fact remains.
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>>376457270
At least its getting some titles in a few months that I'm looking forward too but I need to stop falling for the hype on /v/ because I been burned too many times already
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>>376457425
Wasn't that guy you were arguing with just pointing out your stupidity at buying a Switch when there isn't an exclusive that you want to play because you have a Wii U.
I skipped the Wii U and I really like my two Wii U ports on my Switch.
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>>376457264
They can probably finish a new Zelda based on Breath of the Wild within 3 years. I think Zelda team is already working on the sequel.
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>>376457570
>Wasn't that guy

And that was my first post in this thread, chum.
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>>376457538
It's ok bro we all fall victim to the hype machine every once in a while.
I would rather get burned occasionally rather than never get excited for anything anymore.
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>>376457264
>neither the Wii nor the WiiU had an exclusive Zelda game
Let me guess, it doesn't count because you didn't like it?
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>>376457715
Then how was anything I said moving the goalposts you dumb queer?
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>>376457270
It's the best time to get a Wii U now actually. I got mine for 100 bux and got every game for free wich is pretty nice.
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>>376457739
*Also on Wii U.
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>>376456586
Just jerking your chain, I know Nintendo has pushed the envelope in this industry in many ground breaking ways. Sony has done some impressive stuff too though .
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>>376457936
*also on GBA and 3DS
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>>376457831
this, I got one for 70 bucks and downloaded loadiine on an sd card for it

tfw comfy playing Bayonetta on the wii u pad
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>>376457739
That had a Wiiu port though. And it's not like it got the Windwaker HD treatment. I will admit I forgot about that game altogether though. That's not to say I thought it was bad when it came out, but how forgetable it is sure is a testament to its overall quality.
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>>376457936
>neither the Wii nor the WiiU had an exclusive Zelda game
>Past tense
Even if we ignore the fact that you're factually wrong, you said the Wii never HAD an exclusive Zelda, past tense, not that it doesn't HAVE one now.
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>>376457824
Because it obviously looked like you were the same fucking guy you. Kind of like how you assumed I was the same guy you had just replied to, you silly poofter.
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>>376443047
>super weak hardware
Hardware isn't weak for a portable. We've got a Switch team working on a port of a 2015 AAA game and they've basically got the same graphic fidelity as the PS4 version running around the same average frame rate in portable mode at 960x540. Its below native but using a form of temporal AA to smooth out the rough edges. Docked mode is using an interlaced reconstruction with the same resolution to generate a 1080p frame. It looks pretty good and they've only been working on it for about six weeks.
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>>376458181
>port
Was not a port, it was a straight re-release that runs on actual Wii hardware. That's why the Wii U is BC in the first place, it's got a Wii crammed in there too.

And by this logic no Zelda game is exclusive because they've all been re-released. It however does not make the fact that they were at release exclusive, it doesn't magically change the past.
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>>376456586
Why hasn't nintendo implemented VR yet then?
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>>376458323
Ok you got me. Let's go jerk each other off like the homos we are.
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>>376458445
Nintendo are innovators. They'll work on smell o vision instead of VR.
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>>376458445
Virtual Boy anon
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>>376458431
Well there is pic related, Four Swords Adventures, A Link Between Worlds, and Tri Force Heroes.
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>>376458593
A shame they didn't keep trying to push VR in place of retarded motion controls. I'd take that over waggling any day.
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>>376458508
Let's!
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I'll admit I shit on it a lot when it was first announced and before release.

I'm legitimately surprised how well it's doing, sorry nintenbros
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>>376458445
It's more about what's successful and other companies follow that path. For example the PS2 was the best selling console ever and it had CD roms while Nintendo was still using cartridges so Nintendo tried to cash in on that with the GC, but failed and after the Wii was successful Sony tried to cash in with gimmicks like the PSmove but failed.

Long story short, Sony quit the gimmicks and Nintendo is using cartridges again.
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>>376458873
No, motion controls are fine, they're basically standard features now to an extent and will be for the foreseeable future. They're also an important part of VR, can't really have that without motion controls.
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>>376458593
That wasn't VR in any sense of the word. It was a head mounted display (or rather, a tripod mounted display you stuck your face into).
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>>376458445
Maybe their disasterous VirtualBoy scared them off from ever going near it. Maybe it's because they know that competent versions VR tech are not with them price range most people are willing to spend. Maybe the don't think their game design philosophies gel with the isolation that VR entails.

Fuck knows.
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>>376459227
Carts are actually better than discs now though, the technology has improved quite a bit.
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>>376459436
Its absolutely not something that's cost-effective for them to do right now, it's not for anyone. The tech is prohibitively expensive for most consumers,it's just not there yet, and Nintendo always plans long-term and is very reluctant to sell anything at a loss. They'll do VR in 10+ years if it proves to be something applicable to gameplay in meaningful ways and is cheap enough to integrate.
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>>376459484
They are faster, sure. But they aren't at the point where they can hold as much as a bluray while still being cheap to produce.
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>>376459484
My point was that Nintendo was always using cartridges, besides that one time they used floppys, but when they saw Sony making profits by having CDs they did the same but went back to cartridges after the Wii was a succes. Same with Sony and the Wii controller gimmick.

They see a demand on the market and try their luck.
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>>376460097
What about all the other consoles that used CDs?
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>>376443462

The button D-pads are not that bad. I beat Shovel Knight and both of it's expansions in both portable and in grip mode with no issues.

Only thing g that it's terrible with are fighting games.
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>>376442874
It's still too early to tell and I don't want to be a beta-tester for Nintendo. I'll probably get one in 2-3 years when they release the *New Switch* with a faster hardware.
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>>376443468
everything you listed is what I don't want on switch, I fucking hate all this repetitive weeb shit, Its as bad as them fucking cartoons you watch. fuck

give me new games not re-skinned bullshit
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>>376460835
>repetitive weeb shit
You'll have to be more specific anon otherwise you just sound like you hate weeb games just because they're eastern games
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>>376460936
I need to get revenge because someone killed my family
I love a girl and she doesn't love me so i must fight for her honer
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>>376442874
autistic toy for autistic permavirgin neckbeard manchildren. there is only so much demand for that group of people.
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>>376460550
PC engiine sold like shit and was mostly using these chip cards.
Also the PC-98 was better and sold 11 million in Japan alone and was still using a double floppy drive.
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>>376460726
This is 100% going to happen by the way. Not only because of Nintendos track record with handhelds, but also because a teardown of the switch reveals that it was basicly designed with incremental upgrades in mind without having to change the design of the casing or unit itself.
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>>376461221
>chip cards
I meant hucards.
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>>376458445
they will get into augmented reality, not virtual. screencap dis
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>>376446948
>>376447148
>>376447283
>>376449318
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>Gimmicks
>Shit Hardware
>And no Third Party Support
They are the perfect ingredients to kill a console
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>>376459979
Blu-ray's only advantage is that discs are cheaper to produce.
>>376460097
They used discs because they were both better and cheaper, there was no reason to keep using carts and they shouldn't have stuck with the for N64 in the first place as it just made the games more expensive.

Wasn't really a trying their luck situation, that was just the most logical format to go with from a development and financial standpoint.
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>>376442874
No fucking games yet.
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>>376461479
>Needing AAA western garbage that sells worse every year
When that shit stops selling their consoles, what will MS and Sony do?
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>>376461886
No Blue-rays also have higher storage capacity(up to 100GB depending on the layers) than a cartridge(about 32GB for the Switch).
The only benefit of a cartridge is the loading time.
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>>376462891
You can get cards for other stuff with higher capacity than that though even if Nintendo isn't making them for Switch yet
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>>376463000
Yea I think there are even 1TB sd cards, but I was comparing gaming cartridges to blue-ray games. I probably should've been more specific.
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>>376462891
Sorry but no. Nintendo's 32GB limit is an arbitrary design choice. Flash memory has far, far surpassed optical media in storage capacity.
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>>376442874

The Hand me down surplus Tegra chips which still requires a fucking heatsink+fan to run then charge us $300 for whole unit.
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I want one RIGHT NOW but have a sneaky suspicion they're going to announce some special edition at E3. Like a Zelda one or a new colour like white or something.
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>>376463880
Yeah dude it should be able to run console games without a fan.

And it should cost $150 and have 20 hour battery life. And suck your dick and alchemized gold and cure cancer.
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>live in japan
>they're out of stock for an indefinite time
Where can I get this pos.
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>>376463390
1TB sd cards aren't even in production, and even a 512GB sd card costs upwards of $250. So I guess if you want to pay like $500 per game then Nintendo could put them on high capacity sd cards.
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>>376463390
The 32 GB limit is probably just to keep the costs down for both Nintendo and third parties.

In any case, you can't even buy a 1TB card yet. The best you can do is a 512GB SD card, and that's at least $200 for each one. I wouldn't be surprised if those would cost around $40 each at a mass production level.
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>>376464708
Give it some time, prices go down fast. Besides, mass producing MASK ROM for read only cartridges is much, much cheaper than selling retail flash memory.

>>376464825
200GB microSD cards are becoming affordable right around now. The data storage market moves quickly.
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>>376464949
>Give it some time, prices go down fast. Besides, mass producing MASK ROM for read only cartridges is much, much cheaper than selling retail flash memory.
I never said that they wouldn't. But the claim that not using high capacity flash memory is an "arbitrary design choice" is ridiculous.
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>>376464949
It's just "mask ROM," not "MASK." Mask isn't an acronym.
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the price in Mexico

500 US dollars...more than most people make in a month

fuck the local retailer down here in Burritoland
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>>376465393
It's a design choice they obviously made to balance profit margins with storage capacity. I wouldn't be surprised if the Switch eventually got a 64GB cart.

>>376465547
pic
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>>376465831
>It's a design choice they obviously made to balance profit margins with storage capacity.
Exactly. The did it for a reason, which obviously means it wasn't an "arbitrary" decision.
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>>376465831
>pic
I wasn't trying to hurt your feelings, I just thought you might want to know .
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>>376465831
On the plus side, maybe third party developers will actually compress their games now.
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Not a whole lot, it had a rock solid launch, pretty decent price point, a few great games, and a pretty large library coming down the road. Not to mention a pretty impressive gimmick that has mass appeal.

I'm looking forward to this holiday year, it seems like it's going to fucking crush
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>>>>376468141

>>>>376468141

>>>>376468141


seething
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>>376451872
Why do Sonyfags always pretend to be Metroid fans when they've never played a game?

>It sucks because it doesn't have Metroid!
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>>376442874
Yamauchi died and the remaining Yamauchi family sold all their shares and interests so nu-nintendo is literally a completely different company than it was in 2014, which isn't say much since Iwata's Nintendo was already completely different from Yamauchi's Nintendo, but at least there were still some people on the board who tried to care.

nu-nintendo is bad. real, fuckin' bad.
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>>376445036
Wii u is 59 fps
Switch is 60 fps
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>>376468796
normies eat 25 fps games for free i don't think they're going to notice 1 frame difference at 60fps
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>sonybros still desperate to undermine nintendo
I love it.
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>>376468960
>nintendo still desperate to undermine their own fans
>nintendo fans still desperate to defend nintendo
I love it.
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>>376469136
>PS4 Pro not selling as well as PS4
>Switch selling like hot cakes along with MK8 Deluxe
I dunno, man. Nintendo also never got hacked like 5 fucking times
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Nothing really went wrong. Needs more games.

I thought each joy-con being a mini controller was stupid until I brought my system to the local comic shop and we had a bunch of multi-player matches.

It works. I do hope they release a joy-con with a d-pad just for home use, though.
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>>376469326
>New3DS not selling as well as old 3DS
>PS4 already 60 million
i can make stupid claims too, doesn't change the fact that everyone buying a Switch is getting ripped off.

I still haven't actually seen a single switch in real life so I'm pretty sure those are shipped units instead of sold, too. My local walmart doesn't even have any room for switch boxes nor games stocked.

Face it, no one cares. They're being shipped from china and offloaded into a landfill.
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>>376469326
Pro is not a replacement for original PS4.

Why do nintenqueers have trouble understanding that?
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>>376445036
What if they didn't have a Pii Puu beforehand?
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