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>the abyss
>paradise
>nothingness quartz

pottery
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What was his name again?
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How do I setup my Renne? I think I'll take her for a spin instead of Oliver because I understand that people use her as a mage.
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>>376437201
Damaged goods
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>star door 15
>renne makes imaginary friends who take all the rape and abuse in her place in order to live with herself
>her wall slowly crumbles as she "kills" off her friends and becomes aware that she's the one who's taken and will continue to take all the abuse
WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING
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>>376437560

She's a faster harder hitting Olivier that takes a hit like she took the dick.
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>>376437685
What are you talking abou---
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>>376437479
Fast arts guy?
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>>376438246
You mean headpat guy
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>>376437479
Adol?
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So Renee abuse aside, I am curious if any anon knows which of the two monsters that drop cat suits have the highest drop rate? Trying to get a set of 4 for my main team before the final dungeon as I gotta go fast.
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>>376438317
Poltergeist.
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Reminder that Sen no Kiseki III (supposedly) comes out on September 28 in Japan.
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Did Osborne have anything to do with Hamel?
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>>376437914
Rated E for Everyone
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>>376438473
I pray that Rean is better written. Hope Kurt isn't a complete faggot either.
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>>376438387

Thanks anon I'll head there
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>>376438530
They never expect anyone young to actually read through FC and SC for this.
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>>376437479
I think it was Grunt.
It's Grunt, right?
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>>376438684
>implying the retardes who rate the games actually gotten so far themselves
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>>376438591
Neither Rean or Kurt can be worse faggots than CS2 Rean, right?
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I'm kind of upset
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>>376438530
The 3rd is actually rated M
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>>376438591
It's a lot to wish for, but I hope there are actual relationships between party members again and that not every single girl ends up hanging off Rean's dick.
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>>376437479
>Even the game pokes fun at the sword dude

Fuck, i can't actually remember his name myself either.
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>>376438505
I am thinking he was a victim and not a perpetrator. He changed very much according to the principal.
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>>376439128
It's Gary.
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Calvard when?
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I love JPRGs, so why can't this series hold my interest? I dropped TiTS and Cold Steel. I thought I liked them, but the drive to continue playing them after 20+ hours each just didn't stick.
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>>376439020
Rean has legitimate reasons to worry now.
Kurt had his entire family line's careers removed so he's unconsciously angry about that while something else is going on with him.

He's apparently taunted for his hair so who can say, he might be mixed for all we know.

>>376439125
Rean is the instructor so he has to be a proper guidance figure. That and he has to get shit on by the kids a bit, aside from Altina's usual quips.
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>Chapter 6 bosses

Which characters should I bring for maximum lore?
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Well?
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When Crosbell?
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Agate Crosner - 28 years old, uses a heavy blade. An A-Rank Bracer originating from the Liberl Kingdom. Through his actions during the event, he has been promoted to his current rank. He is currently investigating the truth behind the events that caused the Hundred Days War in Liberl 14 years ago. As his referrals to the Erebonia Branch are Sara and Toval, it's only a matter of time before they show.
**Kondo's comments: 4 years have passed since the events of Sora no Kiseki/Trails in the Sky. This will be the first time he's shown up as an A-Rank Bracer with the emotional growth that undergone. He is not part of the Thors II individuals, but instead he is working on one of the great mysteries left behind from Sora no Kiseki/Trails in the Sky. He'll have a surprising form in combat. His relationship with Tita has changed, as has with [her] family. [I think?] And his departure from his home to the empire is likely to change it more.

Tita Russell - 16 years old. There are lots of screenshots with her and Agate together, as well as screens of her with Towa. A girl from the Liberl Kingdom who loves tinkering with machines and is the granddaughter of the orbal genius, Professor Russell. She is under Class IX, the administration class. She cooperated with the Bracer Guild in the 'Liberl Incident' 4 years ago. After hearing of the strange events from Prince Olivert, who was her friend at the time, she has gone against her mother's wishes and enrolled as an exchange student at Thors II. She is studying under Schmidt and working on the tanks and soldats.
**Kondo's comments: She's grown a little, in height, and as ever, loves Agate and tinkering with machines all the same. She provides technical support to the Thors II members. She is networking with engineers outside of Liberl, and afterwards working on the plans for the new weapon, the orbal gear. There are events with Agate and Tita, and the toolbelt and sneakers she's wearing are gifts from her family.
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>>376438591
To be honest, I'm more interested in gameplay aspect than in the story/writing at this point. Man, I hope the game will have decent level design to make the battles interesting.
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Can we adjust the power level rankings and drop Agate down 50 rungs?
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>>376439460
NOW
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>>376439463
>is relationship with Tita has changed, as has with [her] family.

What does this mean?
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>>376439410
>Rean is the instructor so he has to be a proper guidance figure
That doesn't preclude all the girls creaming themselves when he inevitably headpats them.
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>>376439453
The inclusion of teeth is understandable, but the results are somewhat horrifiying
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>>376439480
>holding back
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>>376439410
Being constantly butthurt over getting his lifelong dream crushed is far superior to being a general low esteemed self-loathing negative nancy for no reason like Rean was.
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>>376439480
He was holding back.
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>>376439463
Soldat vs Orbal Gear soon
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>>376439724
>>376439629
So were the Ravens.
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>>376439574
>Comletedly Finished
Only when Falcom learns English.
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>it's implied that gilbert is forced to be campanella's manwhore
Why is there so much forced sex in this series?
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>>376439620
He has carry-over relationships from 1 and 2 to hopefully reciprocate but yeah, I really hope they don't have Juna be all over him. Muse can do whatever the hell she wants cause that automatically seems to be a part of her character anyway.
>>376439696
Apparently he's worried about something else other than the Vander line not being relevant anymore.
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>>376439775
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>>376439463
Good, they swapped George with Tita.
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>>376439853
Speaking of Gilbert, after you rescue him again in chapter 4, you can listen at his door back at the lodge for a little amusing dialogue.
I like him much better in 3rd than in FC and SC.
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>>376439463
>working on one of the great mysteries left behind from Trails in the Sky
What mysteries?
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>>376439410
It should be interesting, since it seems his fame means everyone knows him and everyone seems to have a negative initial impression of him. I hope we can get one of those test fights, except it's Rean beating up everyone else.

From the girl's side, Juna seems to be the tsundere, while Muse seems to be the faking affection type. The young Mueller seems to have zero respect for Rean while Ash seems to be confrontational. Seems to be a recipe for disaster.
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>>376439819
You don't want to play Cashius' game when it comes out, anon?
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>well done, kiseki player party, well done. HOWEVER
- every kiseki antagonist ever
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>>376438168
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>>376439464
Now there's HP, EP, CP, and BP for Rean or other characters to give commands/buffs
>>376440053
I fully expect Rean to allow his students to challenge him, with the redlight district blondie, Kurt, and Crossbell bitch to try their luck against the AT Delay Master
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>>376440042
Hundred Days War
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>enter a star door
>Some history lesson about Orbal technology and shit
>also, they explain they want world peace and shit
>recieve "ingenuity 2"
Lol
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>>376440132
I imagine BP will work very similar to the whateveritwascalled gauge in Sen 2 that let you do the super links.
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>>376440272
Oh yeah, Brave Points were a thing. I guess there's more options than just Follow Up Attack 1, 2, 3 and it's now a bit more diverse.
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>>376440162
I thought that was pretty much done. I at least didn't feel that needed any more reveals, it was pretty clearly explained. But I guess there's gonna be some man behind the man behind the man kinda cuhrazy tweeest now, like Weissman being controlled by a time traveling Osborne.
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>>376440132
Yeah, but I'm worried about battles taking place on the fieldmap now and how that will change the flow of battles. The level design in Sen I-II was really lame.
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>So Instructor, when is your Arseid girlfriend coming over?
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Are people still not excited about Sen 3 even though Tita is in?
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>yfw Agate becomes an Awakener
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>>376440629
Didn't you just love traveling across the Nord fucking Highlands though.
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>>376440053
I hope to dear god in the skies that Juna will be more than just Alisa's replacement tsundere to lust and tsun for le ebin headpat guy, since they seem to be pushing her a lot in promo material. Would suck if we were stuck with a shit tsunslut in a pivotal role.
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>>376440736
>yfw Tita becomes an awakener
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>tfw 3rd makes you hype as fuck for zero
>tfw eop
>tfw hype as fuck for erebonia after olivert/osbourne star door
>tfw can't handle 720p at 10 fps on ps3
>have to wait until the end of summer to get CS on PC
feels bad man
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>>376440782
I loved Nord for the music and atmosphere. But it was shit from the gameplay perspective.
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>>376440825
Juna is from Crossbell and is going to be the quintessential bitch, only not for embarassing tsundere antics but because her fucking country got taken over.

I mean, at least she's cuter than Alisa.
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>>376439463
How much has the Orbal Gear advanced since 3rd? Are the Soldats more advanced than it, since they were based directly off Divine Knights?
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>>376440886
It will never be as bad as the wait from FC to SC with that fucking cliffhanger and 5 years of translation hell.
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>>376440736
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Tita builds a machine designed to hold Agate down while she takes what she wants from him even though he keeps insisting it's wrong.
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>>376440736
>agate and tita pilot the knight at the same time
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Reminder that Olivier has fucked every single party member at some point
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>>376441056
I can believe it.
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>>376440986
At least Zero is looking highly likely for release within a year or two.
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>>376440825
She seems to likely be the tsundere, but at least it's going to be for more legitimate reasons. You know they're going to play the dynamic with Altina being the loli who says inappropriate things and accuses Rean of sexual harassment and Juna reacting to that.
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>>376441131
>within a year or two

Don't get your hopes up
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>>376441131
I can see it getting done parallel to Sen3 and both those coming out together just like SC and Sen 1 did.
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>>376440705
If it was only Tita it would be meh, but Tita+Agate combi is gold. Also allegedly based Randy is in the game too, and Olivier is of course a given. Toval and Sara are mentioned in the new info too. That's already a handful characters I care about. I'm also willing to give Kurt a chance, he's a Vander after all.
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>>376441056
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Can we get a game with a Jaeger or Oroboros cast yet?
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>>376440642
I want that cake.
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>>376441210
>If it was only Tita it would be meh, but Tita+Agate combi is gold.
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>>376440053
>Juna
Crossbell citizen and is probably the most vehement against Rean in terms of politics. Has to be the bitch for a while before Rean has to directly say that he's not a 100% for Osborne. For all she knows, he hastened Crossbell's occupation
>Muse
From the all girls school Elise and Alfin went too. Either she's really fucking enamored with Rean after how much Alfin and Elise hype him up or she's just into that sort of shit
>Mueller
Family line got fucked over with Osborne taking control of most of the empire.
>Ash
Somehow knows that Rean isn't for Osborne but taunts him for being a government dog.

I'm just hoping that DUKE JUSIS ALBAREA gets called over to visit Rufus to finally have their 1 on 1 talk about how things went down.
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>>376441309
>Jaeger
Akatsuki.
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>>376441254
Mueller and Julia need to fuck.
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>>376441206
Probably. 3rd was done by a skeleton crew, so if it's the same for Zero + however long a new PC port takes, 2019 doesn't look unlikely.
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>>376440883
I don't think letting the mechs do the heavy lifting fighting will be enough for the trials.
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>>376440954
Bitch I'm fine with, since her and Kurt have completely legitimate reasons to despise daddy's tool Rean. In fact I'm gonna have a bigger problem if they end up sucking his dick 5 hours in.
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>>376441428
Julia's too busy scissoring with Kloe and sucking bird dick.
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Someone asked in the last thread if the Archdevils were worth farming.
I've gotten the
Ninja Tabi (footwear DEF+105, AGL+100, SPD+10, MOV+5)
Knight Armor (DEF+1500, ADF-600, AGL-50, SPD-5, MOV-1)
Kitty Slippers (DEF+100, AGL+10, SPD+10, MOV+8) and
Shaman Sandals (DEF+95, ATS+25, ADF+100, MOV+3) as random drops.
The only item I don't use is the Knight Armor because the downsides are shit. I do not yet know if the other stuff is worthwhile, but some people do seem to like the Kitty Suit a lot.

If you do want to farm Archdevils, I imagine saving just before battle, blowing all your CP to finish the fight quickly, and just reloading if you don't get anything is best. You don't have to screen transition or keep track of your HP/EP/CP, but you do lose out on that sweet exp. I don't know what the droprates are like, but Poltergeists can also drop the items and there are often more than one in 1 battle.
I imagine farming the lesser monsters like Incubus and Nightmare are more worthwhile because weapons matter more. Eine Kleine, Vorpal Sword and Snow & Rain can already be gotten in chapter 4 from the moomers.

>>376440057
>the erasure of Cashius bright was planned.
>Only this was an aim of the Cashius bright.
Just according to keikaku.
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>>376441343
I have a feeling that Muse might be a spy or traitor, to go along with her over-the-top adorations.
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How much is this guy holding back?
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>>376439032
I mean granted, these two know how to shit like super pros if you read the gambler jack books. So if they wanted to win, then they would.
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>>376441428
What do you think they do when you leave them out of your party?
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>>376441578
All of me.
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>>376441571
She enrolled in the wrong class if she wanted to keep an eye on Rean. Unless Towa is actually evil or Muse plans on using her to draw out more information.
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>>376441309
I expect the normal betray ending but plotwist would be that the traitor would be none other than the MC himself as slowly walk toward Jaegar or Oroboros side. This time not by mindcrontol but his own will.
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xseed might allocate more resources since the game is newer ergo shinier looking and more likely to capture casual consumers. TiTS fell into that "wooow that looks so old grandpa ha ha what's even the appeal" looking game. Plus, what else does xseed have going on? Assuming Akiba's Flop doesn't bankrupt them.
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>>376441343
Muse I think is trying to get closer with Rean for personal reasons, especially since she's from a noble family from West Erebonia. Seems like she's playing politics from an early age.
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>>376441554
>the erasure of Cashius bright was planned.
>Only this was an aim of the Cashius bright.
>Just according to keikaku.
So this is the power of NISA.
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>>376440782
>get to Nord for the first time
>holy shit this scenery
>holy shit this music
>Gaius, you might be an awful one note character but this redeems you
>5 min later
>FUCK NORD CALVARD DO YOUR THING
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>>376441578
3ft constipated turd.
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>>376441613
>implying
Mueller always sits alone and only talks about Olivier
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>>376441780
Could be, who wouldn't want some of the REFORMIST blood in them.

Even if it's a completely sour point for Rean.

>>376441838
Glad they learned in CS2 and just gave us fast travel points.
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crossbell never ever
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>>376441780
Instead of all of the political drama, they could really show off how much Rean is idolized as a hero and just automatically have a girl from an all girls school to want his dick, it's not like he's a nobody now.
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>>376441578
His true rank of 4th Anguis.
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>>376441838
I hope Osborne someday turns Nord into the world's biggest train station, with little trains taking you to bigger trains.
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>>376442134
Question is: Does Osborne know?
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>Olivier serenading gloomy Ries
Super cute.
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>>376442092
He already had half a dozen on his dick in CS1.
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>>376442092
That's pushing it since we have characters who have been screwed over by Osborne and Rean. Not even Lloyd was free of being criticized by characters in-verse.
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>>376442246
Yeah Factorio is a pretty good game.
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>>376441498
I think they will ease up on Rean after the first trip/adventure, but it probably won't be an immediate thing. Considering the cast in the school is filled with spies or people with bad impressions of Rean, the only person Rean can really trust is Towa and even that is doubtful.

How sad.
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>>376442076
>game literally made to promote crossbell
>ahahah fuck you localization is less likely than gaben getting around with his mobility scooter unless you all buy 25 copies of 3rd each
What did XSEED mean by this?
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>>376442417
And Altina.
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>>376442417
I mean, there is Altina. Sure she might be be totally trustful but they clearly have a friendly relationship.
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>>376442474
>less likely than gaben getting around with his mobility scooter
>less likely
>less
Zero confirmed.
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>>376442474
Wait till E3 week.
Xseed loves announcing things on E3 week.
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>>376442597
>tfw its a new akiba strip game
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>>376442246
It's going to be the biggest mall Zemuria has ever seen. We'll even put in an amusement park that will dwarf those fucking Mishys
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>>376442474
But Xseed never once said anything like that. In fact they have said all along that they want to localized crossbell.
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>>376442284
Considering their exchange in star door 8 and the fact that only Rufus knew he was alive he probably has plans in play for when Lechter reveals his true loyalty whatever it be 4th Anguis, Calvard spy ect.
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>>376442703
There's one or two people who frequent these threads who get really angry about the fact that XSEED want their games to sell and they ask people to buy them.
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>>376442626
Please nooooo
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>>376440162
>>376440547

Actually the Jester attack on the Erebonia Bracer Guild around the time FC was happening is one of the misteries, it was stated that Jester Jaegars lead by Campanella did it but they actually might want lead to tied those attacks with Osborne.
In the Hundred Day War it was stated that Erebonia and Libern politician covered up. Someone from Erebonia was supporting Weissman they might want to know if there is a conection with Osborne as well this might lead to probably his past as well Rean birth or something else entirely.
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>>376442807
BUT I'VE BOUGHT EACH OF THEIR GAMES LIKE 5 TIMES WHAT MORE DO THEY WANT?!?!
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>>376439173
And then uses the exact same tactics to start a war with Crossbell. Of course not, He was behind Hamel or at least a huge part of it, and it worked great, so now he's doing it more, it's what CS series is all about.

He changed a ton after Hamel because he saw just how well it worked. So he acted changed to hide his involvement, used that as an in to power, so he could set up more false flag shit to destroy his enemies.
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>>376440547
Vita confirms that Osborne did in fact have a hand in the aftermath of the Hamal incident with Ouroboros.
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>>376442474
It does tease it, but otherwise the focus of it is on characters and world building.
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So Cassius wrecked me pretty bad in the 6th plane. Any tips for him? Ailments he's weak to?
I already tried slowing him down but that didn't work.
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>>376443324
Get Tita and knock him back constantly with orbal gear and speedboost
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>>376440132
I honestly would love for Rean to have a super hard exam like Sara but without that bullshit she had where she would oneshot everyone if you got her low enough.

>>376440387
Honestly, I find this really cute. Double dates are great!
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>>376442076

I can read Nip, so I'll play the Crossbell games now that I'm done with TiTS, but I imagine they're going to take a while. I've played a lot of JRPGs in Japanese without taking too long, but Trails games are a bit different.
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>5th plane pre-boss cutscene
Oh God, my FPS!
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>>376443463
Exactly as Sara said in CS1, Rean isn't going to force anyone to see things how he does, but the kids can damn well try and convince them by force.

If they can
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>>376443467
>I can read Nip

I thought that was supposed to be impossible to learn
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Why is agility so useless
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>>376443091
Osborne was only a soldier during Hamel, he didn't have the power to orchestrate anything like it.
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How will Estelle EVER recover?
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>>376443467
>I can read Nip

Can i bug you with Pic related anon?
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>>376443607

I am he who makes the impossible possible.
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>>376443710
Oh shit
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>>376443463
>The new Class VII kids will fight Rean and it'll be the equivalent of the SC Loewe fight.
Now featuring turn delay
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>>376443710
Holy fucking shit he actually went there
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>>376443683
>not dodgetanking Cassius and Loewe
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>>376441343
I really do want that confrontation between the Albarea siblings, but honestly just more Jusis would make me happy. An event with Him just visiting Rean on school and the students going after the two could be funny.

>>376441571
I think the political angle might be the better one, she is basically trying to be a honey trap or something.
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>>376443390
I might try that. I kinda want to beat him with Estelle and Joshua though.
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>>376443921
>All the students chattering about Duke Albarea visiting the school
>Rean immediately comes up and hugs him as he steps out of the limo
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>>376443683
Buff it up and it can be decent, but otherwise it only really becomes useful when Zero happens.
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>>376443710
That so? Bend over so i can take care of your asshole for you Joshua.
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>>376443864
>The battle is just Rean spamming Arc Slash and delaying your characters. He goes first.
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>Style change mechanic allows Juna to change between tonfa and gun
>confirmed not to be unique to Juna
Maybe we'll get Rean actually changing between 8 leaves forms rather than just having em tied to crafts.
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>>376443685
Could have been an officer still, Vandyk could just be using a general 'soldier' for active military. Or even if not the main orchestrator, compliant with the incident, a huge part of setting it up with help from above, or totally approving of it, and sees how well it goes, so why not use it to rise to power. He's evil, and power hungry.
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>>376442489
>>376442520
Altina's thing is probably that she is the spy Rean fully knows, so he can trust her as far as he knows what she wants from him and what she is going to be doing behind his back. Their relationship will be very complicated at the very least.

>>376442673
Will the mall be train themed? With Valimar plushies?
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how did kloe's parents die? did they die in the hundred days war?
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>>376444367
Yeah, the airship they were in crashed during the war. She wasn't there with them.
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>>376443560
You know, they totally should get Millium as Rean's teacher's aid, she would make everything fun.

>>376443864
If Rean gets to half health, instead of spamming his SCraft, he just summons Valimar.
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>>376441841
Reshade. Download and follow the instructions, then install with DX9 and follow the link for the DX8 to DX9 wrapper that is placed in the same folder as the game's .exe. Preset for those particular settings.

https://pastebin.com/a4X9kq5Z
Save as .ini and select it in-game via the shift + f2 menu. Calibrated for 1080p, so it may look off at higher or lower resolutions, in which case you modify the resolution setting in the CRT section.
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>>376443713
>olivier groping schera
jej
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>>376444538
where is this information in the games?
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>>376444562
Thanks.
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>>376444561
>>376444168
>Rean gives the kids 5 free turns
>All attacks miss horribly
>His turn begins and he just yells
>MY TURN
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>>376444658
Pay even closer attention and you might notice she's probably sucking him off.

>>376444669
I believe it's said in FC.
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>>376444169
I'm willing to bet Kurt can switch from dual wield to one big sword like his big bro by combining the swords.
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>>376444169
He changes between hand to hand and his sword.

>>376444049
I just can't wait till they meet the talking cat.
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>>376444754
wew
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>>376444710
kek
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>>376444358
I think Altina probably has a lot of affection for Rean too, probably because he's her older brother figure at this point. Probably there'll be a point where she has to pick her loyalties.
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Cant stand richard honestly

Everytime he talks, he has to refer to the time he was a villain
like
>good job richard
>its nothing, i have to repay bla bla bla when i was evil

>hey richard hello
>why me? i was a traitor

>hey richard, wanna fight
>oh no sorry, i need to suck the queen's toes so she can forgive me a thousand times more
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Do fortune and Septium vein quartz stack?
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I feel like I missed something. In the Door in the abyss. Why was she in that place in the first place?
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>>376444769
Or Rean can just teach him to use a twin blade like Crow did.
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>>376445009
He was left off too easy, so he probably feels bad about it, when he almost fucked everything up for everyone. It's fine for him to feel like shit still. If the queen wasn't so merciful he would have been left to rot in jail, or executed.
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>>376445108
Play Zero.
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>>376444941
I remembering hearing how the two have been together on missions frequently but haven't significantly bonded like how Rean usually does with others. Nows his chance with her.
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>>376444358
Valimar themed with Ordine and Testa Rossa themed villains.
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>>376445514
Nah, the Prince will probably get Testa Rossa next game, so the red knight will be the sidekick.
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>>376445215
ARRRRGH
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uh!

scary
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>>376439453
Ao kloe > original kloe > shitty evo art
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>>376445086
They don't do the same thing, why wouldn't they?
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>>376445981
Post ao kloe
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>>376446091
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>>376446248
Cute! Still flat
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>>376446248
>>376446365
if only she had longer hair.
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>>376442807
They've been criticized over the years for constantly whining about how unhappy they are with their PC sales, following up with how you should spread the word and *wink, wink* buy copies for your friends. S-s-sorry, almost half a million copies sold on PC in total isn't enough for us to stop being insufferable pieces of shit on social media and community forums! Buy ten copies more and maybe we'll release that kusoge you don't want which you should then buy 15 copies of so that we might release that game you actually want! JUST KIDDING, IT'LL BE ANOTHER SHITTY GAME THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY 15 COPIES OF AND *THEN* WE MIGHT GET TO THE GAME YOU WANT!
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>>376439453
All of the originals look better
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>>376446742
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>>376445994
Stack as in 2 copies of fortune and 2 copies of septium vein.
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>>376446248
Akatsuki Klose is better.
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>>376446442
she looks cute with short hair
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>>376443713

This is not my best translation. I'm damn tired and I couldn't make out some of the kanji, but maybe someone else can fill in the gaps.

Also, text, because I'm getting continuous connection errors.
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I'm not usually a fan of filters but this is making me nostalgic for when I first played the game on PSP.
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>>376447096

Fuck yes, let's try posting the actual translation again.

First panel:
Let’s try different characters out in this composition.

Second panel:
So I’m your number one!<3
I can see your panties, Estelle.
I didn’t want you to sleep on my lap…

Third panel:

Wait, why are you here!?
This position hurts…
Your hair’s so silky, Joshua~

Fourth panel:

Kariiin
It feels like I shouldn’t poke my nose into this… (Not sure about this one)
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fug
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>>376447257
Only way this happens for me is if i Alt +Tab while in full screen. Did you do that?
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Can someone spoonfeed me on who those Muse and Ash in CS3 are? I saw them mentioned around,but were they revealed or something?
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>>376447138
I couldn't play the game on psp. The framerate just really annoyed me. Like really annoyed me.
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>>376438618
Make sure to equip someone with Phantom Thief's Cape (and have them land finishing blows) and have Josette as your support. Makes Kitty suits drop like candy
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Man, 3rd is pretty bad so far. Not worse than SC, since at least 3rd has good normal battle music but man. Space hallway corridor isn't very fun or interesting, nor is illusionary capital town. Muller kicks ass though so the game also has that going for it. Should I start writing down where doors are and their requirements? Feel like I'm going to easily forget them rather quickly and be left wandering corridor hell hoping to bump into one with the proper character in the party.
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>>376447337
Not him but I've been using borderless windowed fullscreen.
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>>376437914


You'll never see a Japanese politician talk about hope and dreams. I must say I prefer the dark outlook.
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>>376447224

I don't know why, but 4chan does not like something in part of my translation, so here's a screencap instead.
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>>376447337
I'm using borderless windowed with two monitors. I presume its something to do with Windows Security Essentials deciding to do its monthly "lets make your pc unusable for a few hours" scan.
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>>376447402
You can fast travel to doors at any time. You don't need to track shit.
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is it okay for a nun to be this hot?

yes, it's a picture for ants
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>>376438168
Why does the scene even need to be in the game? What you attempt to accomplish with this could be done far better without actually showing it and all this does is make it horribly tasteless and fetishy for Japanese sickos.
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my pc can't run the game at 60fps without getting loud and bothered. the fuck is with that? this games how old and my pc can run newer more intensive game just fine why?

>>376447061
>short hair
>good
>ever
no.
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>>376447575
I want to have a steamy one night stand with Ein Selnate
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>>376447343
Muse is the green haired rifle girl
Ash is spiky blond with combi axe-scythe
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>>376447343
Muse is some girl from a noble family who seems to be trying to seduce Rean.

Ash is some ragmuffin from the red light district. Delinquent type who picks fights with Rean.
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>>376441554
The Ninja Tabi and Kitty Suit are definitely worth getting. Been using those almost exclusively since chapter 4 and I'm preparing for the final dungeon. The speed from the kitty suit is ridiculous and the ninja tabi makes you dodge very frequently.
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Can you actually beat Vander during the duel he and Julia has in that memory?
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>>376447880
Yes, focus on building CP, healing and pop her guard craft when he has 25% health
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>>376446661
It's almost as if

*Wait for it*

GAMES ARE A COMMERCIAL PRODUCT

If there's no money there's no game. You think Falcom or Xseed are a charity?
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>>376447935
Thanks anon
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>>376447015
Their effect only applies if the person using it got the killing blow and you cann't equip duplicate quartz. They definitely do stack with Josette's support though.
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>>376447402
game is heavily reminding me of the project x zone games.

>new character unlocked
>hey i was just and now what where am i
>other characters catch them up
>well i dont get any of this but can i join up

>familiar place is reached
>hey this is place i know but where is everyone
>reports indicate this isn't actually place you know but a copy

...man now I wish there was a project x zone the 3rd
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>>376447608
If you set the framerate to auto your PC will render the game at 1500 frames per second.
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Is there anywhere to farm time sepith? I'm just before the final dungeon.
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>mfw chronic lack of fire and water sepith
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>>376444367
in year 1187
The passenger ship, Eterna, sinks in Calvard waters. Liberlian crown prince Judis dies
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>>376448408
The engine is locked around 125FPS.
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>>376444669
http://kiseki.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_Zemurian_history
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>Death Sluggers
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>that crying tita during renne unlock
;_;
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>>376447224
>>376447479
Well thanks, but some of this stuff does feel very weird. Like what the hell is Joshua even talking about "fixing/remedying" in the end?.
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Do Give up on Sapphire gem to be able to use Devastation blast or do I just ditch cast/Onyx?
If I give up mind 5 in favor of something like move 3 (5 space) I can basically use ALL the spells. It feels harsh losing those 15% ATS though.
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>>376444669
Capel IIRC.
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>>376447479
>the kanji in the blue bubble
I think it's 爆睡.
The last one is wholly undecipherable to me too.

>>376448825
収拾 "settling" an issue, which he translated as "remedy" an issue.
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>>376448825

Oh man, you edited it with my translation. Normally I'd be okay with that, but like I said, I'm pretty tired (haven't slept in 36 hours). Oh well. Sorry for the subpar translaion.
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I won't be sticking around this thread long, I've already been on spoiled on who C is but I just hit chapter 6 in Cold Steel 1 and I'd like to know how much I have left before I can start 2.
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Alright what the fuck do I have to do in the monochrome school house. Nothing is happening.
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>first pic of Rean is released
>Get ready for based punished Rean! Holy fuck this is a man who has seen some shit! The hype is real, Rean is going to be sooooo dark after that tragic and dark as fuck CS2 ending!
It's just so funny in hindsight now that we know Rean is the same lukewarm faggot as always. I mean in the first place the ending of CS2 was the cheesiest friends forever high school musical tier ending I've seen in my life, but people just erased it from their mind when they fell in love with their fanfiction idea of """punished Rean""".
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>>376449013
That's fine, i just like typesetting is all. I'll still keep the original in case i run into a proper translation at some point.
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>>376449048
That's Roer so you got one more old schoolhouse left.
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>>376448858
If you drop cast all those big spells might as well be useless.
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>>376449110
All I got from the picture was just depressed Ream. But I got into the series 3 months ago
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What did he mean by this?
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>>376448957
>The last one is wholly undecipherable to me too.
あのヒト
10秒あったら
寝れるのよ

That one?
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>>376449138
Thanks senpai, I'm off before I get even more shit spoiled for me.
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How the frick do you win at that fishing minigame
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>>376449351
C's identity is the biggest reveal in CS1 anyway. The last few hours of CS1 is its best so get outta here.
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>>376447257
damn, I've been on this fight and lost twice
I hate going through all the text to try again
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>>376449332
Oh, it was just sleep? Wow, even I can decipher that sentence now. Thanks, both.
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>>376449534
Hold Ctrl to skip the text

Secret to the fight is her strength raising ability, just stay above 4k hp.
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>>376448858
I would just ignore getting devastation blast. Its really not worth the ATS loss/SPD loss or loss of cast 2 for a single spell.
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>>376449204
I guess I'll have to settle for 15% less ATS ;_; then.
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>>376449458
C's dentity is also one of the worst executed twists I've seen in my life. The actual foreshadowing is very weak, but it's still a ridiculously easy twist to see coming because of more meta reasons such as Crow dropping out of the part for no reason before fighting C, C being the only masked dude meaning he's probably hiding a familiar face, etc.
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>>376449671
>her strength raising ability
I found it not very useful due to how fast it wears off. I used it twice, got disappointed and decided to just heal and use her S-Craft when available, and I barely won on my first try.

>>376449534
What's your strategy?
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>>376449793
>buff
>attack with craft
>heal when needed with item or arts
repeat
I got him down to like 500 but mismanaged and died
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>>376448858
You use time gem and keep Sapphire for instant nuking
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>>376449793
Just keep popping it, its only 20 cp. Once he's below 4000 hp pop her s-craft after the buff at 200cp.
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>>376449973
Where the fuck do you even get the Time Gem? I finished the abyss and haven't seen one anywhere or as a monster drop. Also does it still have the fuck huge stat penalties like it did in SC?
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>>376450085
nightmare mode of pic related
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>>376450158
Oh I haven't done it yet, wasn't sure how to open this door and haven't went back to see if I could yet.
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>>376450158
Why is there a pile of salt on one of the booths?
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>>376449784
This is where playing Ao helps, because Ao heavily implies Cayenne was C. A good chunk of Crossbell players where surprised since they expected Cayenne to be C.
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>>376447575
>Toval will never hit this

Suffering.
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>>376449973
What time gem you mean cast 3?
Doesn't it invalidate the whole point of having mind 5 in the first place?
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>>376450250
Campanella wasn't satisfied with his answers
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>>376449784
Granted him dropping out of the fight happens a chapter before the reveal. I wouldn't have known before then since I caught a glimpse of CS2'S soundtrack with Crow holding his twin blades.

I couldn't guess who C was until he pulled it out in Heimdallr. Plus the age old tradition of RPG characters never changing weapons.
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>>376450303
He still was fittingly affiliated with Cayenne.
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>>376450369
Not really, it allows you to instacast Devastation blast and it's huge damage even without maximum possible ATS.
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>Addicted to reading people's impressions of the game
>Eventually wind up reading the Trails 3rd Neogaf thread
>20% of the thread is them bitching about Tita/Agate and how it's 'icky'

I hope Tita and Agate are confirmed fucking in CS3 just so they all go on a meltdown.
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>>376450506
What do you mean full damage without high ATS? how is it different to just casting it normally and waiting for a bit with mind 5 equipped?
How much damage does Calamitous Blast do with the same setup?
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>>376450560
Were they even okay with Estelle x Joshua?
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>>376450560
>Eventually wind up reading the Trails 3rd Neogaf thread
link
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>>376450623
Calamitous Blast is for debuffing. It'd do like 4000-5000. Thing is, you cannot fit devastation blast, mind 5, cast 2 and action on a same character no matter how hard you try. Cast 3 gives 2 space which is enough to reach it.
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Fugg it's all over. It was kinda short for a trails game, but plenty enjoyable.
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>>376450808
>36h
nigga im at 46+ and I havent fully prepared for the last dungeon yet.
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>>376450949

That's some hardcore farming you're doing, i even cleared all the doors, what are you doing with all that time.
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>>376450808
Is it only 6 chapters?
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>>376450807
>Calamitous Blast is for debuffing
Why bother going through all the effort to get it when Orbal Down accomplishes the same thing but it does no damage. Orbal Down also reduces ADF by 30% instead of 20% like Calamitous Blast does.
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I'm at Kevin's house and those chapel doors just won't open. Where did I miss a trigger?
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>>376451136
No there's 8
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>>376451201
Oh, I'm at 30 hours and only on chapter 4.
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>>376450807
Yeah, that was my original issue. I guess I'll have to get cast 3 then.

Also what's the point of Genesic barrier and how is it different than earth wall? Does it nullify art damage forever because it's expensive as fuck.
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>>376451119
Getting to everyone at least 130+, farming rare items
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>>376451157

You have to search the well in the courtyard. Also the trigger is activated by leaving the side building by the dining room door.
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>>376451284
It has a duration but its infinite hits (afaik) during that duration. Weissmann uses it in SC
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>>376451284
>Also what's the point of Genesic barrier and how is it different than earth wall?
It protects for a duration instead of a certain amount of hits. It does not go away after being hit like Earth Wall or Grail Sphere do.
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>>376450560
How are they icky?
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>>376450560
Post the best pair to scare off neofags
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>>376450560
>estelle and joshua fucking is ok
>agate and tita having a brother/sister relationship is icky
Really makes u think...
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>>376451531
Because they are a bunch of easily triggered special snowflakes. Even though its pretty clearly established Agate thinks of her more as a sister because of what happened to his.
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So is Kilika into Zin or what? She's an enigma I can't tell.
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>>376451976
She'll have to get past Cochrane first.
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>>376448825
So the two untranslated lines are something like "Agate's fast asleep..." and "That guy can sleep as long as he has 10 minutes"
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>>376451531
3rd is an inch away from confirming they're gonna end up in a romance. Tita's dad hints at it, the entire rest of the playable cast hints at it, and Tita is all over him.

A lot of people don't like the age gap, a lot of people would rather them remain in a platonic relationship.

I don't really see anything 'icky' though, just pure preference. 12 years is really not that crazy of an age gap.
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>>376452106
Isn't it the biggest age gap as far as relationships go in the series?
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>>376451976
Maybe partially. She was hung up over Walter for a long time until that was resolved in SC, so it could be that she's only starting to move on now.

Zin doesn't seem too interested though.
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>>376452106
It's because she's 12.
12 and 24 sounds a lot worse than 18 and 30 in their mind.
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>>376450560

You're telling me Neogaf actually played through Trails in the Sky FC and SC? Or is it the usual I saw a picture and it's gross!
>>
fuck that capua mini game. who ever made it needs killing.
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>pay 50k for star door
>get 100k in return
fuck yeah
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>>376452552
Its fun anon!

Manage your heat and when Gilbert preps for a beam attack fully recover your heat so you can quickly stop him firing
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>>376452441
The games actually have a pretty big following over there, even having their own pretty active megathread.

I still try and stay away from it because the place is unbearably politically correct. Anything outside their narrow thinking is immediately ostracized.
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>>376452095
I was always under the impression Joshua was saying something like "this feels awkward" or something like that. Although anon did say the translation is awkward due to lack of sleep.
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>>376443713
Posting my version because I don't really agree with the other one. Mind that I'm not sure about the last line. Also, I'm an ESL so there may be some grammatical errors.

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Let's try to imagine different characters in this situation

[Red bubbles - Estelle, blue - Joshua]

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Estelle: Well then, let's start with us!
Joshua: Estelle, you're showing your panties
Joshua: I wanted to sleep on her lap...

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Joshua: This position is pretty uncomfortable
Estelle: Wait, what ar YOU doing here?!
Josette: Joshua, your hair is so silky~

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Joshua: Kariiin
Estelle: I-I don't want to comment on that...

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Estelle: Here they are, the wicked two!
Joshua: Agate is sleeping like a log...
Estelle: Give him 10 seconds and he'll fall asleep!

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Estelle: These two are more on the erotic side...
Joshua: SCHERA, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!

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Joshua: Uhm, for the last one there are Zin and...
Estelle: ...?!
Joshua: Well, it seemed like Walter had some spare time, so... Estelle, where are you going? Hey... I wasn't the one who put it like that. Wai-
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>>376451754
That's not even close to the same thing. Estelle and Joshua aren't blood related.

Not saying i don't want to see if Agate and Tita end up together though
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>>376452820
>>376452860
Who cares about translating it, it's better without dialogue anyway.
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>>376452986
Me
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Has anyone caught a fish with the metal rod trident? It never works for me
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So the discussion earlier never really got answered. Is devastation blast worth effectively losing an orbment slot as you put in mind 5 to counterbalance it?
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>>376453505
It has damage values far above any other art
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>>376452353
She's actually 13 ;)
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>>376437560
just speed and ATS

2 Crimson Eyes will compensate

But you can go with 1 Crimson Eye and something that raises speed or item drops depending on what you are doing

It basically becomes a game of trying to balance between her speed and ATS.

Here's mine right now.
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>Keven learns awesome new s-craft
>immediately leaves the party

To what end.
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>>376452860
Yours makes way more sense so i'll take it.
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>>376454125
>farming +3 stuff
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>>376454264
>To what end.

To come back and learn another one until he can give Gilgamesh a run for his money.
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>>376454359
If you have Josette as support, Fortune quartz on Renne, and Phantom Thief cape or whatever on her and just spam dark matter down in the abyss next to a load screen it goes pretty fast.

Or I just got really lucky.

The doppelganger weapons on the other hand.. still mad
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>>376454125
Post quartz
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So I'm supposed to look for something ion the black and white academy
What exactly is it I'm looking for? I've been everywhere now.
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>>376441723
Is "Please buy Akiba's Beat" the new "Please buy Mugen Souls"?
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>>376454787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJZCofYgn1Y&t=59s
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>>376454751
Kill all the blue guys, but don't touch the red ones
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>>376454751
kill the gray enemies
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>>376454953
>>376454963
Oh I see. I mostly ignored them after finding out they don't drop anything nice.
Thanks.
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>>376454665
Its just a pretty basic setup

But it gets me access to Zodiac, Death Scream, Dark Matter EX, Clock Up EX, Orbal Down, and Phantom Pain.

Pretty much all I need.
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>>376455550
and Clock Down of course, forgot to mention.

A-Crest would be nice but not enough enemies in 3rd use arts for it to have much use.
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>the gates of gehenna
>suddenly
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>>376455550
Yeah it seems like the go to setup except for ingenuity 2 instead of ruby for most.
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Protip: Bring your fucking A team with Kevin when all of your party splits in four, they don't come back together for the final boss. That sure gave me more trouble than it should have.
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How does one open Sun Door 5?
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>>376456272
One does not simply open sun door 5

have level 5 of every gem in your inventory that has a level 5
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>>376449368

Hit space/whatever the second you see !. The only time I had trouble was with Norche. She caught like, three things worth 300+ points. Mr. Fisherman fucked up six times and only caught shitty fish, so he wasn't a problem at all.
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Are the individual sections difficult?
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>>376452441
I mean, Neogaf is also a video game forum. It's not like this board doesn't have it's fair share of awful people, yet here's a Kiseki thread anyway.

>>376454264
That's part of the only minor complaint I have so far. Sometimes your party gets changed in a way that my party setup has to be completely overhauled. Like suddenly I have to equip this character I otherwise never use or would ever want to. There's a roster of 16 characters and I get to pick two most of the time.
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>>376449534

>I hate going through all the text to try again

>Cheat Engine
>Speedhack
>Hold text skip key of choice
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>regular Kiseki thread up at all times on /v/
>good variety of conversation at any given time

/v/ has been objectively better since this game came out.
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>>376452860

>黒いどころかエロいね
>These two are more on the erotic side...

Not so sure about that, but I'm not sure how to translate that line myself. It's the 黒いどころか that doesn't make sense.
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>>376457675
The threads can get kind of awful and filled with false flag shitposting but yeah generally some of the better threads on /v/. Just makes it all the worse when they wind up being shit (past two were good though).

Threads when a new game comes out are the best though, because people are actually playing and discussing the game.
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>>376457675
Yeah they've been really good threads other than the occasional /vitagen/ butthurt or dual audio autists.
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Oh shit.
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>>376456110
>they don't come back together for the final boss
Really? So the team splits up into 4 parties and the only party that gets to the final boss is the Kevin party?
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>>376438473
It's so far away.
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>>376456110
Is Ries mandatory for the final boss?
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Chapter 3 better be the last fishing minigame.
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>>376458627
I'm also curious about this, I was going to go Kevin, Estelle, Joshua, and Renne if at all possible.
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>>376458846
I mean I don't mind if she is, I've gotten her to where she is a really powerful physical attacker. Its just going to affect whether I give her an ultimate weapon or not.
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>>376457812
>黒いどころかエロいね
Doesn't it literally mean "[These two are] not only wicked, but also erotic"?
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Acording to the archives, there are shining poms in chapter 6
but im patrollin the erbe scenic route and cant find shield packs or hammer packs

Maybe he meant hammer dwarfs?
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>>376459463

The enemy here has a chance of spawning with one. Not sure where a group of 3 is.
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>>376458846
I believe the only mandatory character is Kevin. Final boss is however was on Kevin's team i believe.
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>>376459697

and i'm dumb and forgot my image
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>>376459780
>>376459697
maybe there arent group 3 like in the forest.
But thanks.
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These threads made me want to fire up 3rd Evo again and do the part in Purgatory again, but I realized I overwrote that save.

( ´◉‿ゝ◉`)
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>>376459442

Ah yeah, probably. Damn implications.
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>>376458627
Kevin and Ries are mandatory for the final boss. How you distribute everyone else is up to you.
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So Blueblanc was 'X', the con artist in his Star Door right? "My number reveals all" and his number is 10 which in Roman Numerals is X.
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Anyone know which enemies I'm missing?
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>>376460320
Yeah, in the quiz minigame, it asks which one of those are him and it's X.
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Fuck the fishing minigame. Baron pulling giant catches out of his fucking hat.
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>>376460467

You need to fish with caught fishes to score the big ones as well. Marlin looking fished come from using carps as your bait.
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>>376460306
Thought so thanks anon.
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>>376460334
Off the top of my head you're missing the mines Kanone throws on the ground form the Sixth Plane bosses.
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>>376460467
Use first half of the rounds to catch small fish with marine/progress rod. You want carps. With carps you can catch Sea Bass which in turn let's you catch the big stuff.
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I just tested every fucking of my team ultimate with 200 cp and only Agate can damage the shining pom, only doing 200 hp
WHAT THE FUCK
WHY IS HE SO STRONG

ANY RECOMMENDATION?
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Campanella is secretly Aidios and also the grandmaster
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>>376461412
Maybe kloe with 2 crimson eyes and sanctus nova
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>>376461412
They have a fuckton of defense, if you have tiger hearts or something, stack them all onto Agate. About 3000 STR should be good.
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For some reason despite the whole "Let's rehash fucking EVERYONE for boss fights" thing the game has going on, I wasn't expecting Saltman to show up.
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>>376461562
I was just going to test that, thanks

Also
>olivier is the best in the magic department
>give him ultimates that do physical damage
Holy shit.
Based kloe and his magic damage based ultimate.
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>>376461786
Except Kloe is ruined by 3 water locks and can't use all the cool kids spells from the time and space series.
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THICC
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>>376461786

Just roll with Renne and pater-mater
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>>376462530
but then i would have to use use-goods
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Damn how long is the sixth plane? Looks like It's going to be huge.
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>chapter 6 and i've still never used a single food item
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Cumpanella is best girl(male)
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>>376462881
>not healing Ries purely with food
what ARE you doing?
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Lol, agathe just learned Dragon dive 2, now he crushes shining poms
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>>376458627
>not bringing Ries for the final boss
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>>376463012
what is this?
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>>376439463
>His relationship with Tita has changed, as has with [her] family.
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>>376463316
Will Agate ever get Erika's blessing to marry Tita?
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>>376439463
>His relationship with Tita has changed, as has with [her] family.

I swear they better not fucking kill off their relationship so that you can pursue her as a romantic interest. That's fucking pointless anyways since you'll always end up in the canon route by the end of a story whether you like it or not.
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>>376463312
Akatsuki no Kiseko, or Trails of Dawn
All the SC Enforcers playable here are OP af, except for Renne who got jobbed by Campanella having higher stats and better crafts
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>Battles are all seamless in Sen III and you fight them right there

Power of the PS4
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>>376463312
RNG: The Game
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>>376463357
>No Joshua, i am the real edge
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>>376463481
What?
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>>376463357
Is that supposed to be the actual Gehenna or just a recreation by the power of Phantasma?
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>>376463871
It's obviously not the real one. The power of the Aureole extends beyond life and death if i remember right.
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Renne's a cool character and all but I feel they went a bit too far with how smart she is. She's the character who finds out the secret of Phantasma the moment she appears and apparently with this conversation she also publishes papers on mathematics and chemistry.

Like come on. She's borderline mary sue.
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>>376463965
>>>Zero
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>>376463871
Just a recreation more specifically its a manifestation of Kevin's desire to be punished.
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>>376463965
Gnosis is a helluva drug
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>>376463713
>>376463739

Ah thanks, looked it up, never heard of it before.
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>>376464050
>Zero Ren[\spoiler]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msX4oAXpvUE
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>>376464081
>manifestation of Kevin's desire to be punished
So Phantasma is Silent Hill x Midnight Channel
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anyone else use spear of loa over grail sphere? It just feels so satisfying to use
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Just finished Chapter 1

How long is the 3rd and when do I get Estelle and Joshua Idgaf about Julia
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>>376464240
i used it to clean enemies, not much
Grail sphere is way better for important battles
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>>376464247
40 hours or so with all doors, 50-60 if you spend a lot of timing farming gear and such.

Joshua you get in chapter 2, Estelle If i recall the start of chapter 5.
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Alright, I'm halfway through chapter 6 and gonna guess the rest of the plot for the hell of it.

Schwarittzer is obviously Loewe so who cares. Masked person is Rufina. The Cube is the Aureole, and the entire world of Phantasma is created by Kevin. The specific locations are from the other characters, but the entire place is the Aureole creating a world for him, much like it was said to do for the people on the Liber Ark. This also explains all the demons. Kevin obviously has some mental problems so the whole thing is kind of a journey through hell, with his regrets over Rufina being the 'final boss'

See how right I am.

>>376464240
It's pretty fucking cool. The chapter 4 boss fight is one of my favorite moments of the game so far.
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>>376464423
okthx
also what's the difference between sun and moon doors? I've discovered a few of them but can't access them cause no right person for it yet
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>>376464745
Moon doors are extremely long usually close to an hour a piece. Star Doors are short stories and can be anywhere from 5-20 minutes. Sun doors are mini-games.
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>>376464616
You're correct.
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>>376464616
Not bad try
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>>376465013
>>376465071
Cool. It's predictable but these days the less predictable I find a plot the more shit it ends up being. Loving the game. It's like Falcom said "People love the lore so let's just dump it all over the player".
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>These quiz show questions
Jesus some of these are just so fucking random
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>>376463690

Falcom isn't that stupid. Tita almost got herself killed for Agate. Their relationship ain't changing for the worse.
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>>376463690
They literally said her love for Agate and for tinkering with machines has not changed at all.
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>>376439463
Where did these bios come from?
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>>376465934
Don't you know your lore? You're such an airhead
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>>376457675
That falseflagging Reanfag some of the falseflaggers couldn't possibly keep up with their baits.
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I need to finish all the sun door minigames not just open them for star door 14 right?
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>>376466527
Nope. Just open.
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>>376466175
CS3 announcement today
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>>376466583

Seriously? Fuck that fishing one then.
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>>376463690
The worst Rean will do is pat her head.
Oh God.
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>>376446661
This is really common for japanese developers/publishers. Most other video game companies don't do this thankfully.

>>376450560
>>376451531
I think you need to take a break from animu and mango since they don't represent reality; because I highly doubt a father would be very happy to see his 12-14 year old daughter having a romantic relationship with a 24-25 year old man.
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>>376466804
>I think you need to take a break from animu and mango since they don't represent reality
Pretty sure we are talking about video game characters from a video game which are not real and don't represent reality?
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>>376466804
Man. Their first sex will be awkward as hell. Especially for Agate.
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Is there supposed to be a boss at the end of the abyss? Someone on the steam forums mentioned a tempest pom but I don't see anything here.
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>>376467291
Yeah, I think you have to beat all of the bosses in one go, then head to the bottom before you see it.
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>>376467291
You have to beat the other 3 bosses in one trip.
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>>376467379
>>376467387
Fuck really well good to know thanks.
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>>376466804
They aren't in a romantic relationship though
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What are the best party members to use for the Chapter 6 bosses for maximum lore?
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>>376467612
Julia/Alan would be fighting their mentor
Renne apparently has Cassius mention something interesting
Joshua and Estelle fighting daddy
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>>376467612
Estelle, joshua and Richard, i presume?
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It's sad to see Julia being GoodEstelle
But estelle is estelle so...to the abyss with Julia
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>Damn kids and they're dual wielding
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Is skipping Scrafts broken?
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>>376468475
still works for me.
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>>376467612
Apart from mandatory party members:

>Ravens
Agate and Estelle

>Phillip
Julia and Renne

>Grant/Carna/Kurt
Any of the Liberl bracers

>Kilika
Zin and Liberl bracers

>Cid
Julia

>Morgan
Estelle and Joshua

>Cassius
Literally everyone

>Capuas
Josette

>Ouroboros
Renne, Schera, Zin, Kloe, Olivier

>Loewe
Renne
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>>376467876
>tfw Estelle was nothing but earthwall bot from FC to 3rd
If theres one thing this f2p gacha game did right it's buffing Estelle into a tanky delaying muting sealing powerhouse
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>ouroboros factory again
>infiltration doesn't play
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>>376468475
It randomly disabled for me sometimes. Just save and restart and it should work again.
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>>376468856
Fuck, I surprised when the tune went full on exciting after its sneaky sounding start.
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>>376468839
How is she on Zero though?
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>>376469007
Still wouldnt want her in party when you got Randy for atk and Tio/Elie for support and arts nuke
Her combine craft with Joshua as well as her using Cassius's scraft is worth checking out though
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>>376468839
Estelle right now in 3rd is both one of my best casters and one of my strongest attackers. Just saying.
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am I supposed to run 300 times before the start of the final chapter to get the quartz? or can I do it after
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>>376469616
Ive been farming shining poms all the time and i got that long ago
Dunno why you dont have it yet.
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Man could you imagine a date between Richard and Kanone? It'd be like "No, I'm a worthless pile of shit, you are by far the greatest thing to have ever graced this planet" for hours on end. They both have some serious confidence issues.
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>>376470247
Hence why they're only workmates.

That or even Richard knows how she's going to drone over him and that he'll just be moping about it to her.
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>>376469363
Better caster than Renne and better attacker than Joshua or Richard?
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I have now seen the light of Richard. Who cares about AT delay when you can just have infinite fucking turns.
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>>376466583
Got it you still have to finish the first fishing minigame.
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>This Richard star door
>Him and Kanone in casual wear

This is too fucking cute.
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Whats the best track in game and why id it Overdosing Heavenly Bliss?
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>Waiting for a Grimoire to turn into a Doppelganger
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>>376471543
That track was pretty great but for me it was either The Final Choice or The Crimson Stigma. Was glad to see they actually didn't re-use all that much music from FC/SC and used mostly new tracks.
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>>376463965
>EOPfags
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>>376472058
I had to break out cheat engine, I've made it through all of FC/SC without using it but that just pushed me over the edge. My characters are so fast I ended up skipping around 8 turns before they even get 1.
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Daily reminder that it took the Liberl cast THREE GAMES to get to the same level that the Erebonia cast got to in TWO.
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>That 4th wall break from Campanella in moon door 14.
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Does Richard appear in any of the other series?
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>>376472225
*meant star door.

>>376472242
Pretty sure he does not.
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>>376472169
>>376472093
Ah, so there you two were.
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>>376472169
Erebonia cast needed backup after all their Ouroboros bosses stopped holding back in CS2. Liberl cast straight up beats their Ouroboros bosses in SC.
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>>376472169

In what universe does Class VII stand a chance against the Liberl cast?
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you should play monster girl gamu!
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>>376472280
>tfw your husbando is forgotten

Damn you Falcom.
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>>376472324
Let's be honest here, SC party would have got their asses handed to them by McBurn.
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>>376472527
Hey, he's living the peaceful life now. Maybe when shit gets real in Liberl again he can come back.
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>>376472527
There's not really all that many recurring characters I know Estelle/Joshua show up in crossbell, Renne does as well and gets more character development. Lechter and Olivier are also the only characters to appear in all the Kiseki arcs.
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>>376472627
No one is going to argue Mcburn would require an enormous undertaking.

But Class VII doesn't stand a chance against the near all star party SC and 3rd have.
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>>376472704
You're forgetting Osborne.
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*blocks your path*
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>>376472627
At least SC cast wouldn't have had their asses handed to them by fucking Duvalie. I don't think CS2 cast could've even gotten past Walter.
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>>376472772
Oh yeah forgot he showed up in Ao.
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Man this conversation about Tita showing up in Sen 3 is giving me the shivers...in a bad way.

Besides Olivier and some other dude, having Sora cast showing up in a Sen game is really terrifying...

The games are so different in style and way they're done it's like mixing water with oil.

They'll either have to fuck the characters up so they'll fit the setting, or something like that. Regardless it will feel REALLY odd.

I hope it's not that bad, for real.
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I guess it's safe to take the obvious bait so late into the thread.

Even if he's spouting more nonsensical shit than usual
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>>376472704
>>376472772

And most importantly, Anton.
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>>376472980

I don't think there's gonna be a problem. I remember reading some interview that Falcom intentionally dumbed down Cold Steel as a easy entry point for the console masses (in Japan) and now that they are so invested in the series they can start maturing it again. Though this is probably gonna apply more to Calvard arc.
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>Sen 3

Please be good
Please be good
please be good
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>>376472742
Oh I agree, class VII does not have enough heavy hitters (all they have is Sera, Rean, Laura and Fie) and I would say Falcom fucked up not having Claire, Toval, Olivert and Sharon joining in Infernal castle. Had they been party members and only required Victor to save them, it would have been muuuuuch better.
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>>376472986
The only person baiting is you, coldsteelfag.
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yo lads

make a new thread let's make a sorting of the current situation of the series and see where it will go

this will include crossbell discussion too

it's been awhile since i played so it might be good
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>>376472169
May a thousand thorns adorn your flesh with despair...
A single 4man group from Liberl would tear a new one to whole Erebonia's cast
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>>376473472
>May a thousand thorns adorn your flesh with despair...
What does he say after this? Theres one part of the dialogue I can't make out before he says ignorant and alone.
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>>376473472
The only person worth mentioning in Erebonia in terms of power is Victor.
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>>376472169
>the same level that Erebonia cast got to in TWO

What did he mean by this
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>>376473564
not quite sure but I believe it is "may you be engulfed, ignorant and alone."
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>>376473564
May a thousand thorns adorn your flesh with despair.

May you be engulfed, ignorant and alone.

Strike, unholy spears of time!
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>>376473472
Ok stop right there, while teh top tier of 3rd can deal with class VII's heavy hitters with little problems, the lower tier would have problems and they sure as hell would not be able to beat Toval and Sharon.
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>>376473712
Easy bait of course
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I hold in my hands the chalice of heaven.
Let it's holiest of lights act as our shield

GRAIL SPHERE
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>>376473827
The mid tiers of 3rd can beat Class VII's heavy hitters since that only comprises of Rean, Laura, Millium, and Fie.
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ayo, when will niggas just accept erebonia arc was complete turd and defending it is akin to defending star wars the phantom menace?

for real, just think about it the characters for a second

why did they do all those things spanning 2 games?

what were their overall stake in the story?

rean didn't have one, besides just "being the right thing to do"

most characters didn't have one, which is ok at first but then you have TWO games and they still don't know what they want to do for the most part

and specially rean doesn't know what he wants to do, he seems so lost at the end of cold steel 2 you can't reasonably connect with him as a character if you can't sympathize with what is going on in his head

if he's lost and you can't connect with him (and other characters), then you can't connect with the world or care about what is going on

if the character has a reason to care about what is going on, then we do as well

it's like writing 101 and i'm baffled on how people missed this huge point on this game
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>>376473472
A Cold Steel group of Rean, Sharon, Toval and Sara could honestly handle any of the Sora cast, with maybe Kevin as an exception. Problem is, beyond those 4, the Sen cast is pretty pathetic.
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Is there a confirmed working JP audio pack yet?
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>>376474047
>what were their overall stake in the story?
To be literal pawns since they're still kids
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>>376474074
Yeah someone posted a guide how to add them in on steam.
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>>376474047
If you compare this with just any side character of Liberl arc, for instance, Kevin

Kevin has a duty to collect all of the artifacts of the church, he also has a personal stake in the story as we learned through the 3rd

Or both Estelle and Joshua having a stake in the story both personal and not, of taking down Ouroboros for fucking their shit up

They have a stake way beyond "this is the right thing to do", almost every character does.
Think about that for a second.
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>>376474056
Richard, Renne, Zin, Mueller, Olivier, Kevin, and maybe even Joshua can probably match that.
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>>376474165
yea that is what they were going for

but that doesn't make it interesting at all

what would be interesting would be using the character's personal stake in order to manipulate them

going for what osborne was saying "engulfing their will into a bigger one", that would be interesting to see

but when the characters have absolutely no will at all, how can that be interesting to see?

manipulating empty shells is boring as heck and obvious that they will be just pawns if you make them mediocre

but that doesn't make it good, interesting, or relatable
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>>376474280
A lot of characters in FC didn't have too much of that while definitely gaining their purpose in SC.

The majority of the Erebonia characters didn't by the end of CS2.
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>>376457675
We have a new game up and new CS info, so it helps keep things going. In a few months we will have nothing to go about and it will be toxic again.
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>>376474424
Why

do

you

type

like

this

I'd like to be optimistic and say that the decision to make the Erebonia arc be full of kids instead of adults from different walks of life would be to literally be Olivier's wet dream of recreating Estelle and Joshua's journey in Liberl multiplied by a few more kids but that also brings in the fact that they're still kids without having too much purpose on their own.

Which is why CS3 will be refreshing at the least to see what these kids are up to now.
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>>376474425
Well, the side characters aren't as important as the main characters.
Since Rean didn't have one for the whole spanning of two games, then that is a major problem. If Rean didn't have it, but other characters did, then it'd be interesting to see how that unfolds, but they didn't either.

From the start, both MCs have a personal objective/stake that develops throughout both FC & SC. For Estelle and Joshua, search for their father and become a real Bracer, then for Estelle, search for Joshua and take down Ouroboros, for Joshua, take down Ouroboros as a personal stake for revenge.

So on and so forth. The level of characterization in the Liberl arc is so above Erebonia it's not even funny. You could go on, on how Rean's lack of characterization, lack of personal stake in the story, lack of direction, lack of everything that makes a MC be an MC hurt and destroyed the arc, but we've been through this already.
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>>376474683
When you have a main character written like Rean in CS1 and 2, I don't doubt that. CS3 is its seemingly last chance to get up the writing quality again.
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>>376468346
Old man Rean is cute! CUTE!
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>>376474074
https://pastebin.com/T8W8w3i3
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>>376474593
idk

im used to nip boards, maybe

well but thats the thing my dude, liberl arc was also about kids in an adventure and that was interesting because you could relate to what they were doing

but not so much for sen cast, i mean it wouldnt hurt to make each character have their personal stake, but then it would prove challenging to make them pawns if they were too personal and too individualistic (which they weren't)

so essentially, the challenge of making the erebonia cast both individuals with their own stake in the story, and both pawns of a bigger plan is what would make the game interesting, but that would be challenging to write

they just decided to gimp on the challenge and...make that boring shit they did with everyone
it's why they feel so tropey and unrelatable to many people
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>>376474593
Not the person you're replying to, but you called me out for doing the same thing with the exact same text like two days ago.

You're the autistic one.
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>>376474074
The English VA's fine, dude. It's just battle lines.
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>>376475057
The option is still there, so it's fine.
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>>376475056
Not the person you're replying to but you type like an autist.
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>>376475057

To people seriously give a shit about battle grunts? What the fuck.
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>>376475056
Probably was someone else, this is the first time I made the criticism of spacing in a kiseki thread.
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>>376474991
>>376474202
Thanks.

>>376475057
No, they're not.
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>>376475187
Yeah there almost always one autists in these threads saying he's going to pirate it because no dual audio.
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>>376475006
Which is why the intermission of Sen 2 might have been one of the good parts of both games. You have the impression that this is the "I wanna be a jedi like my father" moment for Rean. When he finally gets his shit together and figure out what he wants to do.

But he doesn't really...he just goes with the flow of the story and gets dragged on with everything.
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>>376441595
Jack even knows the sleight-of-hand technique King used to win all his games, which King used to give the win to Jack seven years prior. Of course he and Halle are holding back, the AI's already a cheater in this Door.

>>376440629
You already get a ton of space in many Sen dungeons with battles that must as well be close-quarters, so I can't see there being a huge (let alone negative) change. Maybe they'll design certain encounters around obstacles/terrain in the overworld and dungeons, that would make things interesting.

>>376440905
Nord really needed fast travel, otherwise it's a cool place with not quite enough to find or do.

>>376442626
Who knows if Acquire's that desperate.

>>376448418
Grancel Castle storage room has a bunch of Slime Lump spawns which can give you lotsa higher-element sepith.

>>376456958
Seriously, what's up with Fisher striking out so hard? He missed five times when I got to him, and I had a rougher time with Lloyd than Noche or Fisher. That's a weird door since a bunch of people seem to struggle with it, so maybe I really did luck out, not that I wasn't building up my bait for larger catches.

>>376450671
Most are

>>376452106
Agate's not going to accept a romance with Tita no matter how much the Russells have resigned to this idea. He sees her as a surrogate sister and, unless Falcom's writers want to shit on their development from SC, he'll encourage Tita to channel her romantic feelings elsewhere and keep the sibling love.
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>>376475006
You keep making board statement like everyone but only some characters match what you're saying. Look at Fie. She ad a clear goal once she knew Leo and Xeno where involved. To find out the truth and settle things. Which she half did (she learned the truth about why she was abandoned)
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>>376475426
>Agate's not going to accept a romance with Tita no matter how much the Russells have resigned to this idea. He sees her as a surrogate sister and, unless Falcom's writers want to shit on their development from SC, he'll encourage Tita to channel her romantic feelings elsewhere and keep the sibling love.

>Implying he's not holding to wait for her to grow up
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>>376475438
The thing is, he's not wrong.

>Rean
CS3 will be about him making up his goddamn mind
>Elliot
Finally attends music school
>Machias
Switches on over to politics, somewhat got over his noble sperging
>Laura
Become strong like dad
>Gaius
Protect his homeland
>Alisa
Inherit company
>Emma
Look for Vita and learn more about Divine Knights
>Millium
Nothing as of yet
>Fie
Look for Xeno and Leonidas and what they're up too again
>Jusis
Look after the Kreuzen Province

Only around half managed to get any sort of development for their aspirations to matter.
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>>376475438
broad* fml
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What's the name of that sad soundtrack they use all the time?
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>>376475657
I didn't say he was completely wrong, but to say no one has a personal goal is flat out false.
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>>376475284
Well dude it's like I'm saying all characters are like that. Most are. Hell I still remember that even the wind guy had somewhat of an objective of protecting the lands he loved or whatever. That sort of counts.

But the MC is like your connection between you and the story. So if the MC doesn't have a personal motivation that moves you into the plot, then you, yourself won't have a reason to have one too. It's kind of like a basic rule for writing MCs (and it exists for a good reason).

Because you need to relate with the MC's actions at a both personal and interpersonal level (personal stake AND right thing to do).

But if the MC (your door between you and the world) is gimped, then all the connections you feel for other characters will be gimped as well even if they do have their own motivations.

You can't skip the MC and then develop the side characters' personal stuff, it's like skipping B when counting A B C, it feels like there's a bump between them. You pretty much fuck the whole thing up.
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>>376475857
Wew, meant to reply to >>376475438
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>>376475808
In 3rd? There's several. You probably mean Cradle Where Feelings Rest, Reminiscence or Stairway to Gehenna.
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>>376475657
>CS3 will be about him making up his goddamn mind
That's one thing I'm worried about. If Rean developed without the player being around him for it.

I mean shit, we followed him for 2 games and the MOST IMPORTANT part which is his development as to what he cares about, which direction he wants, what the hell he wants is skipped off to the side?

Hell...either way we'll either see him developing to a direction, or he'll be developed already. If the guy's an adult and still doesn't know which way he'll sway in life...IDK if I'll even have the energy to get mad or just say "eh... I saw it coming"
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>>376475857
The problem with CS is that a lot of the character motivations aren't COMPELLING. Sure, they have their personalities and motivation, but what good are any of them if they're not interesting or relevant to the plot at large? Sky did a lot better in that regard in comparison.
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