Prey

>forced stealth
>punishing resource management
>overall lack of variety

What did he mean by this?

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>>376428756
https://techraptor.net/content/prey-review-dont-fear-reaper

What went wrong was listening to bullshit reviews. This game is great

>>376428841
whoa you totally refuted all those arguments bro
high five

let's go bully some nerds next

>read Prey reviews
>All of them mention Bioshock or Dead Space
>No word of System Shock
>All reviews complaining about difficulty or low amno

If System Shock 2 was released today, it would have a 6/10 metacritic score.

>sim
how is it a sim lmao

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>>376428841
>TechRaptor's Reviews Editor. Resident fan of pinball, Needlers, Rougelikes, and anything with neon lighting.
>Rougelikes

>>376429229
https://www.giantbomb.com/immersive-sim/3015-5700/

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>>376428612
The combat boils down to WHACK-A-MOLE and FIND-THE-MIMIC. A shitty enemy you are going to be fighting 90% of the game.

In other words: imagine Half-Life 1 would have been you fighting headcrabs with the crowbar 90% of the game.

This game is fucking trash and it deserves to bomb as hard as it did.

>>376429629
Combat was garbage in SS2 and it's still top 5 best games ever made faggot.

>>376429128
Bioshock is just System Shock in water, and Prey is just Bioshock in space. It's an appropriate comparison. I mean, as the reviewer points out, what other games besides Bioshock start you off with a wrench, and later introduce you to voodoo magic?

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>punishing resource management

>>376429813
No Bioshock is streamlined System Shock underwater.
Prey at least isn't as simplified as Bioshock.

>>376428756
that he is a casual shitter

>>376429732
SS2 wasn't a fps, you triggered shill. That's why it didn't matter as much.
You faggot shills have been forcing this meme that Nu-Prey is like SS2 and not Bioshock Infinite extremely hard in the past months.

All in vain, you pathetic cock sucker. The game bombed, everyone knows it blows sweaty dog balls.

Reminder that 99% of times a reviewer puts "not enough variety" as a con they're not to be taken seriously.

>tfw this was fucking amazing until you got stuck in the aboretum

Fix your shit Arkane reeeeeeee

>>376430118
>SS2 wasn't a fps

Prey neither.

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>>376428612
>What went wrong?

>>376428612
with the reviewer? who knows

>forced stealth
I played the whole game commando, where is there force stealth?
>punishing resource management
Ah okay turbo-casual.

>>376429813
>what other games besides Bioshock start you off with a wrench, and later introduce you to voodoo magic?
System Shock 2 you underage faggot.

And no, it's not an appropriate comparison, Bioshock is linear.

It's not perfect so /v/ hates it

>>376429971
Kill yourself

Cancelling the sequel

>>376432681
He's not wrong though.

What is the source for that first review? That guy clearly didn't even play the game, unless all he did was ignore side quests and just follow waypoints for the main quest at all times and assume that was the entirety of the game.

>>376428612
I fucking love it, its great as fuck, but somewhere down the line it broke two of the npc's who get into your apartment, turn hostile for no reason and cannot complete a quest because of it.

Also, it is kinda weird, I expected an assault rifle somewhere, but did not get one. Using the pistol in rapid fire mode on the phantoms. Shit, it kinda serves that purpose but I feel like that there may...should be a rifle of some sort, maybe an smg? Then again it wouldnt exactly make sense since the space station wasnt made for specialized security. Still, kinda weird.

il wait for a patch that fixes the reactor room and the friendly npc bugs and then start again at hard mode.

>>376428612
I didn't know this game even existed until three days ago. Complete shit marketing.

>>376428612
Bethesda didn't pay enough for reviews.

>>376428612
>"adult" reviewers find games for children challenging
Really makes you think, huh?

>>376432406
Not everyone is a casual that dick sucks every new bethesda release.

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>video game "journalists"
you have to be at least 18 to post here

>>376428612
>punishing resource management.
why do I see people keep saying the game is too hard because of this? I'm playing on hard and have plenty of ammo and stuff, just over 100 shotgun ammo atm etc.

>>376433121
I watched my brother play this game, and after running straight to the first 5 objective markers he was completely outclassed by the enemies. If you don't explore then you wind up with nothing and it seems like the game is unbeatable at that point.

>>376428612
When did difficulty become a "legitimate" criticism?

What's the comfiest area and why is it the Bridge?

I have a feeling that these reviewers are all expecting something that Prey wasn't meant to give. The game is designed so that there is never a point where you are safe and never a point where an enemy can't wreck your shit no matter how good you think you are.

I think a lot of these reviewers aren't satisfied with not being the big powerhouse of the game and considering it seems a lot of the enemies are designed to discourage mindless shooting, it seems that its the reviewers own fault.

I mean, if you have troupble sneaking past the phantoms then you have a bigger problem than game design.

>>376433235
When """people""" stopped wanting games and started wanting experiences.

Games aren't about gameplay anymore, they're about cutscenes and how much of a chore it is to get to the next one.

>>376428612
>punishing resource management
I played on Very Hard, were we playing the same game? I had resources galore...
Combat being 'clunky' is an excuse not to describe the issues since reviewers are shit - the problem is your weapons are terrible, the guns are barely better than wrench for mimics and anything stronger is a complete bullet sponge.

>>376433121
I'm playing on the hardest difficulty and I have about 90 shells and like 7 medkits (Have yet to even use one because its would be a waste seeing how the game heals you like crazy), and I'm like 4 hours into the game.

>make decent immersive sim
>what little marketing there is panders to the console audience and the devs don't do enough to reassure people that the PC version won't be garbage
After every game coming out being watered down you can't just release one that isn't with no fanfare and expect it to get much notice.

>>376433435
>sim
How?

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>complaining about resource management
>hurr durr the game gave me a gun that means I have to waste all my ammo right?
>wtf why is ammo so uncommon
>what do you mean I have to scrounge for scrap to be able to craft spare ammo

>>376428612
#notmyprey

>>376433507
Immersive sim is the term used for games like Thief and System Shock.

>>376433507
It's the genre title you asshat.

>>376432681
He's right though.

>>376433114
>94
I wonder how much money that was worth

>>376433302
My only real problem with the game is how utterly useless turrets are.
Even with basically unlimited parts, it feels like a waste of parts to repair them.

>>376433357
>doesnt know how to use the weapons against their weaknesses

the stun gun is pretty great against electrical things there are a few of those who soak up damage. The nullwave thing is also great for psycho faggots with abilities.

Everything has good counters. Some of the stronger enemies die with a couple of blasts with a shotgun after they have been stunned.

>>376433357
Are you using the weaknesses?

2 secs of q-beam on Ethereal Phantom=dead phantom. Gloo is usefull on everything that doesnt have magic powers

Aliens aren't impressed by FPS skills so you need to use your shitty weapons (in-universe too btw) in the right way.

>>376433568
Ebin!

>>376428612
>punishing resource management
There is easy difficulty for rushing scrubs

>>376433659
>>376433692
I'm probably coloring my experience based on the goddamn 'thing' in/near the shuttle bay.
I lost many lives to that thing.

>what went wrong?
buying an IP name and then using it as a marketing tool while designing a completely different atmosphere compared to the old games creates expections that never had hopes of being met, you turn away old fans and new fans will wonder why it was called prey in the first play.

TL:DR stupid marketing gimmick killed the game's potential

>>376428612
>What went wrong?

Choosing the only two "bad" reviews and presenting them like it's the consensus.
Also, forgetting to remove the stupid Cons of the first one and letting us know it's bullshit.

>>376433656
Fortify does a good job of making them useful against pahntoms. Considering everything above a Weaver is a miniboss, I think its okay.

Even January tells you the turrets are shit though, they are just easy to spam so thats why they are used.

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>>376428612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-JVa6BuewQ

APOLOGIZE

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>>376428612

>Clunky Combat
The combat is super fluid and fast paced if you just go straight into it, it's objectively not even a problem. They probably consider it "clunky" because they played for 5 hours and didn't even get any Typhon abilities worth a shit.

>Forced Stealth and Platforming
What the actual fuck? You're never forced to sneak past enemies, it's easier to sneak past tougher enemies at the start but it's not mandatory. Also who the fuck has problems with platforming, which isn't even mandatory either, it just helps you find cool shit and explore more.

>Punishing Resource Management
The fact that they consider this a con is just depressing, it's not even true. You find a bunch of materials literally everywhere and can craft anything you could ever need, even fucking neuromods.

>Overall Lack of Variety
Like in enemies? Locations? This is just false.

>>376433869
>you turn away old fans
This is a bummer
>and new fans will wonder why it was called prey in the first play.[place]
Because we're prey for the mimicks.

This game is like STALKER all over again.
Hated by the press but still top 5 games in the last 10 years.

>>376433969
Press and Publishers can't celebrate good games, because it would make their typical fare looks like the garbage it is.

>>376433815
Honestly I think thats part of the game expereinece. After the long struggle with the first Technopath I found, it was deeply satisfying realising that the Stungun is very effective against them.

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>>376428612
>sim

wut

>>376433969
Yea pretty much this, everything is just so smooth, its like another bioschock, but in an era where there are no good games anymore. Its also better than bioshock, this game is seriously good.

From all the ingame world details, to the story, everything is fucking good.

Best thing yet is that there is also no sjw faggotry. Its one of those good old games that simply does gameplay right and doesnt pander to any crowds.

>>376434167
Underage please go

>>376433916
>gggmanlives
Not even surprised by this faggotry. He rushes through so many games to fart out reviews it's a wonder he doesn't have more retractuins

>>376434198
>Best thing yet is that there is also no sjw faggotry
Actually Yu is implied lesbian if you pick female protag.

>>376434428
well its a good thing I didnt then.

But playing 20 hours through the game and I didnt find any kind of sjw faggotry. The few niggers there, that nigger who literally stole a white mans piano playing brain...

But overall it had no in your face sjw faggotry, dont think it even was subtle, the best thing in all of this is that if you kill the alien that controls humans, you can choose to save the whites only...that is what I did anyhow, kek

>>376434428
That's not even that bad, considering how devs nowadays force their "diverse" or queer character and shove those traits down our throats.

I really like this game, but at points it feels like a B tier game version of a System/Bioshock game.

It's hard to explain but it's like if System Shock 2 was a genre, all the parts are there but they're just not as good as the other games in that genre.

>>376432897
>>376432897
see
>>376428841
in the comments, he claims

>If a game requires you to quick save constantly and load into an area upwards of ten or fifteen times just to bypass it on normal difficulty, I'd say that there's something wrong with that game's design. If your best case scenario for moving on is "sneak past enemies and bum rush the door, then that's a negative mark in my book"
>You can see the Steam version of this review which includes a tally of my 17 hours logged with the game.

Overall it seems like the "reviewer" was a shitter and expected CoD-like campaign and got confused when the game didn't stroke his dick every minute.

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I've only played a couple hours but I'm enjoying myself. Died several times cuz I'm bad.

I'd only even heard of this game for the first time the day it came out. That is some piss poor marketing and even /v/ only seems to have one thread at a time at most about it.

>>376434604
Ikr?
It feels that every RPG has to have some sort of forced LGALPHABET character thrown in to just make everything super awkward and in your face.

Hell, the one reference to a past Lesbian couple in the game (past because Mimics were hungry) was so natural and so completely ignorable that it felt more of a "Yeah, their people" rather than "LOOK AT ME, I AM BAD ATTEMPT AT VIRTUE SIGNALING."

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>>376434885
haha epic

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>no regenerating health
>no two weapon limit.
>mild resource management.
>Stealth where- if an enemy sees the arc of a thrown item, they investigate its source.
>Vertical exploration so you can miss out on a lot if you dont look up and use your gloo gun
>occasionally you don't have a way marker holding your hand (Heaven forbid)

A casual industry will no doubt spurn such a game.

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>westrash is mediocre at its best

Wow who could have seen that coming?

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>>376434885

>>376435324
Bethesda which is why they didn't give out review copies.

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>modern reviewers don't like the game
Tell tale sign the game is actually good

>>376434902
>have almost no ammo or any kind of guns
>be faced with somekind of weird alien inside of a chamber that shots electricity
>have to kill him
>he has to walk around the cage
>still have ability disabling bombs
>beat his ass to death while getting shocked from time to time with the wrench while cornerfucking and jumping around like a madman

took me a bunch of tries, but that faggot truly is a huge faggot. There are environmental damages which you can use lures with (requires little ammo)

there are turrets, you can place down traps or use grenades.

I feel like games like these are supposed to be enjoyed by a more mature audience that understands the many principles of the game well, all the game mechanics and actually enjoys a challenge.

Having said that, sometimes I guess I would expect a few less tougher enemies from time to time. There is something quite discouraging when you wasted all of your items in one room, and then there are many other boss type enemies just in the next one.

The weavers especially, god those are annoying to kill unless you specifically prepare against them. Which means finding crafting stations, but the problem is that I often take everything that isnt bolted down. But the second resource item that is used in ammo, is quite rare, I wish there were other ways of acquiring it. Maybe even convert it from other types with a penalty.

>From the people who made Dishonored
>They scraped the "space bounty hunter" game to make a generic space station game
What did you expect?

>>376435484
>open world FPS
Oh fuck off faggot. Prey 2 was going to be shit.
Good thing this game is actually good.

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>>376435410
more like this

i like the game. i think its fun.

>>376435424
the game is boring garbage
just like andromeda

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strawberry

>>376435765
this game is crap

also you faggots need more astroturfers
ea has at least 3 at any time

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>>376435930

what's this about a super secret ending no one's got yet?

>>376435930
>>376436012
Stop samefagging
It's honestly pathetic

>>376436034
nice image of your 15yo self

Is Prey actually good? I appreciate that it makes shit casual reviewers assblasted, but is the game actually worth it?

>>376436202
I'd rate it 9/10 but System Shock 2 is my favorite game ever so maybe I'm biased.

>>376436202
no

>>376436202
I dare say that its probably going to be the best game this year. Its quality is supreme. It will be a classic thats for sure, a game like that in a climate of society of today, is extremely rare.

>>376433114
>>376433640
How the fuck did 2 score higher than Inquisition? I don't like either game but Inquisition is pretty much objectively better.

>>376436202
If you liked first Deus Ex, or System Shock 2 then you'll probably like it. IF you think those games are bad then you'll hate this one too.

>>376430379
It is though

>>376436338
this is also correct, as I wrote this>>376436287


srsly tho, this game is goty material.

>>376434428
It's done way better than most games. I don't have a problem with some characters that are different, what bothers me is the OBVIOUS pandering bullshit and air of moral superiority these fucks throw into games just to get good boy points.
If done right, gay or trans characters can be very interesting.
But 99% of the time they just fulfill stereotypes or push an agenda.

>>376436274
So it's like a modern System Shock 2 that feels new but still makes casual reviewers mad? I could get into that.

>>376436034
So what?

>>376436202
I'd give it a 9/10 and would say it's easily one of the better games this year, which in my mind is actually saying a lot.

Did you like Deus Ex? System Shock 2? Thief 2? You'll likely enjoy this. Don't expect it to be those games come again, but know it's the same type of experience.

It's easily worth a purchase if you're the type of person who likes to explore and use your brain in a game. The only complaint I have is how garbage the ending is.

i was on reddit and a lot of people there were saying that prey was surprisingly good.

were they just being redditors or is it true?

also no i won't go back

>>376436802
wew

>>376434198
The woman who had authority problems was a lesbian. Audio log in the med bay.

>>376436964
I didn't mind them to be honest, their little DnD nerd group was kind of endearing

>>376436964
>gay people don't exist outside SJW fantasies
Fuck off.

>there are a bunch of humans being controlled by a psychic controller
>zap them with the zapper gun to make them go to sleep
>kill the controller
>they are unconscious
>drag them to a more secure space (only the whites)
>beat the niggers to death with wrench
>those survivor whites actually wake up again and go to safety when you return
>those niggers are still dead

TECHNOLOGY

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>modern (((reviewers)))

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>>376430479

>>376430118
>and not Bioshock Infinite

It isn't retard. The sad thing is if it was a dumbed down shooter like Infinite it probably would have got 10/10

these shill claiming it one of the best game of the year need to fuck off

>>376437023
Anyone can post the soundtrack playing in that nerd room in Crew Quarters?

>>376430118
>SS2 wasn't a fps
Then this Prey certainly isn't.

>>376436964
Yea I know and frankly, she seemed kinda disturbed, mentally speaking. The object of her affection also kinda reacted strangely first. But overall, it wasnt sjw cringe tier.

Was neutral about it, and I am an expert in sniffing out sjw garbage, it got past my mental sensor. So it was pretty well done.

>>376436095
go home austin

>>376436202
It's pretty good, like others have said, if you're into games like System Shock 2 this game is right up your alley.

I'd give it an 8/10 because I hate the ending and some of the zones are lackluster, like Life Support and it's adjacent areas

>>376436686
I'm surprised I haven't seen a thread about the Danielle storyline in the Crew Quarters, /v/ likes to jump all over shit like that.

>>376437056
>implying they weren't using classic controls

>>376432974
You want the blow them up laser.

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>>376437056
To be fair that looks like high skill play for anyone on a gamepad.

>>376436802

you want actual game discussions, reddit is better than this place. You only come to /v/ to hear negative critiques of a game and nothing else. go to reddit for a more diverse opinion.

>for the first time in a very long time a game actually looks fun enough that I'd want to buy and play it
>don't have anything powerful enough to play it because modern games are shit and having consoles or a good rig would be a waste of money
Well fuck me I guess

>>376437387
it would probably help if the field of view wasnt -7 degrees

>>376434198
>no sjw faggotry

Talos 1 is filled with niggers and women even though it's stated that Talos is home to the greatest scientists and innovators

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>>376437563
and?

>>376437520
Reddit is really terrible shit, don't listen to this faggot.
/v/ is trash also

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I bought Prey on a complete whim after not following it at all.
It's pretty fun, but very slow, like System Shock.
It sounds like these reviewers expected to play DOOM.

Can't fault the developers for your own misunderstanding.

>>376437540

It's pretty well optimized, so unless you're on a complete toaster you may be able to run it.

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Anyone here have any idea why this happened? I can't get the achievement for finding all crew because of these people.

What's the optimization like? Can I play it on a toaster that couldn't handle last year's Deus Ex?

>>376437727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d84gqMzPs2U

>>376437670
This.

Only decent place is rpgcodex.

>>376437563
Its a good thing that you can remove them then, but yea, a minor annoyance still. But I found funny that one nigger couldnt play the piano, so he stole the neural map of someone who could (not a nigger I think) and made his own custom neuro mod

There is a nigger trapped in space as well, who you could vent out by opening his hatch instead of docking him.

So being able to remove negro kinda in my eyes makes up for it.

Nothing. The game is fine. Way more fun than Fallout 4 (easily the shittiest out of the three new games), and somehow that game got a higher score.

Reviewers aren't happy unless the game holds their hand the whole way through. The fact you might actually have to mitigate what you're doing to fight an enemy turns them off because it means they actually have to use their brain.

>>376437715
i dunno make the red boxes bolder i can't see the problem in your pic

>>376436964
Yeah but for most people (not saying a lot of the complains are from /pol/tards but still) the problem is virtue signaling and all that at a Andromeda level. (even the three first mass effects are harmelss for the average gamer).

>>376437727
Guy on stream said he got 180fps on max settings. Seems well optimized.

>>376437773
>rpgcodex
(You)

place is filled with edgy tryhard teens who has never played proper RPGs before, only basic shit like baldurs gate and morrowind

>>376437520
>go to reddit for a more diverse opinion.
More like 'go to reddit for a circlejerk of the same opinions'
I'll take /v/ any day of the week you faggot redditor

>>376436202
They didn't send out review copies and paid youtubers and twitch streamers to lie about it.

What do you think

For completionists like me this is not a 25 hour game. I am at 27 hour mark and still have half a dozen sidemissions open and don't think I am near the end. The station is huge, detailed, logically laid out, and beautiful. I want to see all of it.

>>376437880
>teens

Most are registered since 2005. Most are 25-30+

>>376437940
t. casual

>>376437563
That's barely SJWs though.

>>376429128
To be fair if it looked like system shock 2 and sounded like it it'd get 1/10.

I'm actually really enjoying prey, but I'm still fairly early on.

The game keeps handing me free rooms with free heals, I don't understand how its hard, unless this stops

>>376438012
>hanging out with grandpa on the i Ernst

>>376438043
>doesnt come back to those rooms
>the plague thing made them into enemies that fucking kill you now

TECHNOLOGY

>>376438043
It's not hard, modern gamers and "reviewers" just suck, the stun gun is like the first gun you get and it makes almost every enemy encounter trivial

>>376438112
>25 is old
Fuck you I'm still a pure boy.

>>376438012
Too many decline enabling newfags there these days.

>>376438185
sorry grandpa, a few more years and I'd have to visit you in the museum

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>>376428612
>reviews describe most modern AAA games as 7/10
>lust go through and list features as check box
>game gets 9/10 scores

Prey
>reviews basically describe it as 9/10
>list some minor nitpicks for why it's not perfect
>give it 79 score

How does this happen? Did Bethesda's payment not go through properly?

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When will he come back?

>>376438304
there was no review copy and practically no marketing

>>376438304
Reviewers are shit and don't want to put any time into games

>>376438142
Aw shit, the crystal box guys who take a heap of damage and have high expanding cum resistance?

Those fuckers are tough, I haven't worked out how to handle them yet.

maybe it helps that I tend to play most games in a high-stealth approach? I mean I'm still fighting a lot of what I encounter, but its only after scouting out the room, working out what I can use in the environment.

One thing I do really, really fucking like so far: the level design. There are tons of obstacles, but I haven't encountered a bonus room so far I can't jimmy my way into, up to and including throwing a trashman grenade at heavy crates.

Another thing, every room with two exceptions so far has had a purpose. Something is always in it.

Sometimes its just more fucking foam darts

>>376438352
and its also behind denuvo, making it unplayable to 90% of all of /v/, that is why there is this low threat count.

Get a job you fucking faggot neets.

How do you deal with the infinite loop of military operators?
I want to fucking explore Shuttle Bay but this faggot won't let me.

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>Casuals don't like System Shock 3
What a shocker.

I wish this game had military personnel on the station, that would be cool

>>376438432
Yea, also the touches of the weavers as the game progresses. Man, this game has so many cool TECHNOLOGY moments, lots of player choice. Its fugging great.

il wait for a patch to fix the few bugs and then replay it again.

I've seen so many casuals cry about mechanics and design decisions which from reading and hearing about I actually appreciate, so tell me, Prey players, does the game have a cohesive and stand-alone story? With the critical reception and casual outcry, I'm not expection a Prey 2 to ever exist (ironically, again).

>>376438503
>tfw I have a BA but almost never get calls back, even positions where I am extremely qualified won't call me back
I can't tell if I am TOTAL shit at interviewing or what

>>376438578
I go there before the plot, also a hefty supply of stun gun ammo, machine mind and the electricity blast

>>376437023
>>376437037
>>376437824
Really dont care if shes a lesbian or not. Just brought her up to g it up.

>game offers you a ton of ways to play and different skills
>But none of them matter because its all the same.
>Need leverage 3 to get into that room? Nope just use a grenade
>Need mimic to get into that room? nope just use a cross bow dart
>Need hacking to get in that room? nope just get a keycard or read a terminal.


This is such a glaring mistake. There is zero replayability when you can just fucking do everything on any character

>>376438686
the story is shit, play the game for the exploration and level design

>>376438732
>g it up
is this some kind of hip meme I'm not getting?

>>376438609
Thank god it's not System Shock 3, because real SS3 will be much better than this shit

>>376429345
what a fucking gay thing, nothing about skyrim is simulated

>>376438821
You wanna bet, you contrarian faggot?

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Almost makes you want to make your own review site that's geared towards people actually playing games.

>>376438707
>>376438578
yea thats a bit horseshit, but the stun gun works miracles, I took the two turrets over there and reprogrammed them, it gave me a little bit of time to explore more, but still its still faggotry. My playstyle is fast though and I jump around and use the glue gun a lot, got to the shuttle without needing the controls? (you can skim on the walls)

Nearly everything is reachable with that thing, really neat.

>>376438705
I work in a backbreaking factory stacking boxes but keep doing it because I am /fit/ and can handle it, pays nicely enough too.

>>376438821
>Warren Spector

lol no.

>>376439004
I've been doing that too, but I don't want to. I want to get a job that I actually like

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>>376438783
This isn't ironic is it.

I guess that's it then.

>>376438937
What's to bet, your newfag ass that likes shit games that are trying to rip-off LGS masterpieces? Sure buddy

>>376433869
>you turn away old fans

Why do people think that Prey had fans? When it came out it was an average-at-best shooter with a few quirks.

>>376438783
this

they shouldn't give you so many neuromods

>>376438783
Plenty of rooms where you can only get in with a certain skill
And picking too many alien neuromods has certain gameplay and story consequences
You sure you played the game?

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>>376439016
Say that to my face not on mars motherfucker.

>>376436964
if Danielle Sho was a dude nothing would've changed. Switching Michaila to a duded if you're playing as female Morgan wouldn't change anything at all too.

>>376439167
And what is Warren Spector doing.
That guy was no part of LGS and is a fucking hack.
Harvey Smith did a all the work on Deus Ex.

>>376439117
Well invest your money into dumb certificates for jobbo's, I live in commie europe so there are lots of those grababble from the lower branches to climb up higher. A drivers license, then a license for safety things, then a first aid thing, all looks nicer on a CV until I can get something higher still. I work good, get good reccomendations for the next employer. Keep working well for the temp agency as well for other jobbo's. Its not a dead end here.

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>>376439239
[screams externally]

>>376439293
playing as female morgan just made me want to fuck Ilyushin more

>>376438686
The story is by far the worst part of the game with the ending being a slap in the face for anyone looking for a satisfying conclusion to an already trite narrative.

>>376439309
>First System Shock's producer
>no part of LGS
K

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>>376438783
>game gives you a ton of options to do stuff
>its bad because it gives you a ton of options to do stuff

>>376439472
>producer
>developing the game

k

>>376439476
It gives you false options. The game should have had a lot of stuff simply locked away and impossible to acquire unless you have a specific skill with no other possible way to enter the room.

>>376439454

Let me guess

You were dead all along?

>>376439523
>literally part of the lgs
>lol but he's a producer so he isn't!
k

>>376439549
But it has a lot of theses too.

>>376439561
Worse

The game was a simulation the whole time

>>376439309
>That guy was no part of LGS and is a fucking hack.
>Harvey Smith did a all the work on Deus Ex.
TOP
FUCKING
NOT EVEN GONNA BOTHER.

FUCK YOUR SELF DIPSHIT.

>>376439561
it was all a simulation, you are the alien

>>376437940
Do you ever get sick of talking shit on games you haven't played? The game's fine. It's not a masterpiece, but neither is the other shit getting higher scores than it. It's an 8/10.

>>376439561
here
>>376435826

>>376439549
>Deus Ex
>instead of hacking or lockpicking doors you can just shoot them open with the GEP gun

must be a terrible game then

>>376428612
>it didn't fall for the open world meme
>-10 points to gryffindor

Criticism was a mistake

>>376439549
>The game should have had a lot of stuff simply locked away and impossible to acquire unless you have a specific skill with no other possible way to enter the room.

That's a very good way to break your game, and this was everyone's biggest criticism of System Shock 2.

Not to mention, even if Prey did this, you would be bitching about it.

>>376439561
The game is a simulation that's made in order to try and awaken aliens to emphatize with the human beings, since the real world is fucked over already.

It's nicely foreshadowed in the game, but the ending is a definition of DLC-bait.

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>>376439637
>>376439681


You're shitting me, aren't you?

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>>376439309
>That guy was no part of LGS and is a fucking hack.
>Harvey Smith did a all the work on Deus Ex.

This is some shittastic bait.
Have a pity (you)

>>376438043
>sounded like system shock 2 it'd get a 1/10

Nigga, SS2 had some of the best ambient SFX and music of all fucking time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvrdtlyUXPg

>reviews
lol
The game is great. Literally all I wanted Bioshock to be.
Why are there so many faggots shitposting this game? I've yet to see any proper criticsm.

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>>376439549
>These options aren't options

>>376439769
Afraid not.

It's all an attempt to get one of the aliens to understand what it means to be human.

>>376439659
Typical spector fag. Bet you suck Levine's cock too.
How was Ebin Mickey btw. Truly the work of a genius.

>>376439803
Didn't mean to imply otherwise chum ol buddy ol palarooinie.

I just meant if you released it NOW, it would be hilariously dated and underappreciated.

>>376439847
there are no proper criticism because it has denuvo

>>376439879

You're seriously telling me the ending is just 'No John, YOU are the demons'?

>>376439901
Fair enough. And given the state of games journalism, the whole game itself would have been lauded as a dud, when it's still fucking fun to play to this day.

>>376439876
>What is the illsuion of choice.tiff

Just got through my first playthrough now the hardest thing is to decide how I want to play it next.

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>>376428612
>lackluster combat
>forced stealth and platforming
>punishing resource management
>lack of variety

Holy shit I really dont like to use the "casual" buzzword but fucking hell I don't know what else to use. I guess in their defense the game is pretty brutal with its resources and slower combat. On consoles I felt it to be nearly unplayable and clunky where on pc I had a much much easier time enjoying the game.

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>>376439803
>Trip alarm
>MedSci 1 playing
>Have no ammo

>>376439970
no the ending was
>it was all just a simulation
>but it actually happened
>alien won
>we tried to put the ayy in us, but we never tried to put the man in the lmao

>>376439885
>Bet you suck Levine's cock too.
Actually, Ken Levine would have been considered the weakest link of LGS if not FOR HARVEY SMITH.

THE GUY WHO WAS IN ESSENCE, THE B TEAM TO THE B TEAM.

Seriously. Fuck off. And speaking of Warren Spector, when Underworld Ascendant and SS3 come out and blow everyone out of the water, i want you to remember this post.
Remember how everyone has rightfully forgotten about nuPrey. And then weep.

These threads have gotten me interested in the game but
(Actual potential spoilers)
About a month ago there was a prey thread where an anon claimed to be working on the game and said the plot was basically go save your brother or something but at the end you turn out to be an alien learning human behavior so you could (infiltrate?) Was he telling the truth because I remember I had reason to believe him but the plot he outlined was just so goddamn stupid it was hard to swallow.

Other than that there's the gameplay videos that all look awful but people claiming its ss3 is really intriguing me.

>>376439847
>first person animations are atrocious for a AAA game
>bog standard combat mechanics
>selling itself as horror when it really isn't terrifying in any way
Don't get me wrong, I still like the game but it doesn't hold a candle to Bioshock.

>>376439970
You're playing reconstructed human memories, so no.

>>376439994
Giving you different options in gameplay isn't illusion of choice, you dumbass.
Or do you think Deus Ex has "illusion of choice" since you can blow up a door instead of hacking/lockpicking it?

You're grasping at straws.

>>376439994
>I'll pretend I know what illusion of choice is.mpg

>>376436202
It's like a worse version of System Shock 2, but better version of Bioshock.
You can interpret that in any way you want.

>>376440141
The leak was right, but the guy actually sounded bored with the game he was working on. Actual game writing and story are pretty good, lots of fluff and fun little interaction, you can always boil down any story to a stupid outline.

>>376438732
>g it up.
To what?

>>376440141
He was right about the story, wrong about the game itself being bad. My guess would be that if he really was a Bethesda insider that he only saw the game in a really rough in development stage. Or maybe he just had really bad taste, who knows?

>>376440230
Its not different options if it leads to the same conclusion. Prey gives you about as much choice as a Tell Tale game

>>376439970
That would have been better, because then you could have had a story where the main character gets consumed by the alien and you run a simulation to see if he's still in there or whatever.

Instead you're a random ayylmao getting tested for muh feels, which in one of the audio logs you find specifically says that they don't show any signs of empathy but whatever I guess.

>>376429252
>hating on rogulikes
Shit taste

>>376440141
>people claiming its ss3 is really intriguing me.
It's not, don't listen to this fags, it's Bioshock all over again
And yes, that leak anon was right actually, to every detail

>>376440141
He was right about the plot outline, but every plot looks stupid when you summarise it like that. Honestly it's about the many smaller stories you run into with the minor characters, not the overarching plot

>>376440141
here's the gist
you're an alien injected with morgan juice
the "game" is you living through morgan's memories which actually happened but you get to make your own choices since it's an simulation
it was all an experiment to see if you(morgan ayylmao) can feel human empathy and stop invading earth

>>376440121
>Underworld Ascendant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_UU99PyxU

Why would I play this garbage when Arx, a 2002 game, is less dated and more interesting?

You should go back to rpgwatch, the place you actually belongs to.

>>376428612
>What went wrong?
Bethesda should've paid more for reviews. Just look at how Nintendo's swimming in the review scores. And Zelda's nothing near a 100 maybe a 91 or 85 but definitely not a 97.

>>376440346
>Its not different options if it leads to the same conclusion

What the fuck IS different options then?

>>376440346
Please give a (good) game with different options then, because I'm very interested in what the fuck are you talking about when you say different options.

>>376440468
Options that lead to different conclusions.

>>376440292
>It's like a worse version of System Shock 2, but better version of Bioshock.

That's actually a really good way of putting it.
But lets face it, nothing is ever going to manage to have as much depth as the original Thief/System Shock/Deus Ex games. So everything will always be "a worse version of [insert Thief/System Shock/Deus Ex here]"

>>376437880
>creepy manchildren in their 30s and 40s
>teens

>>376440357
To be entirely honest, a lot of roguelikes are terrible nowadays

>>376436202
Gameplay-wise is about as good as you can get with this type of game. Narrative is weak and quests aren't very engaging though.

>>376440759
>Narrative is weak and quests aren't very engaging though.
How can one man be so wrong?

>>376440604
I'm not an Arkane fanboy.
But Prey does some things better than Shock 2.
For exemple, in Shock 2 you would feel pretty powerful around mid-game and literraly unstoppable by the end of the game.
Played Prey on nightmare and never really felt that way. It easier by the end yes but still fairly challenging on Hard+

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>>376440602
>You can play as a rogue, warrior, or mage
>Those are not gameplay options though because the ending of the game is the same for all 3 lol.

>>376440643
>you can't play vidya in your 30's or 40's without being a manchild

>>376440602
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

If you did that, the levels would be really lame & generic, not to mention limited, since every problem would have one and only one solution.
It removes all build variations, leading you to ask why you even have an RPG build system in the first place.

>>376429813
>what other games besides Bioshock start you off with a wrench, and later introduce you to voodoo magic

...the first Prey game?

>>376440759
Nah, narrative is actually good.
Interesting environmental storytelling and some decent log conversations.

The plot itself is weak yes but that's always been the case with Arkane games (it's still better than Dishonored 2's).

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>>376440326
>>376440340
>>376440359
>>376440361
>>376440369

Oh fug
I'll just pick it up when it's cheap, shouldn't be too long if it really is bombing as hard as some people claim

>>376434885
>rick and morty

disqualified

>>376440938
That's not what I anted to imply. I said codexers in particular are creepy manchildren.

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>>376441018
>(it's still better than Dishonored 2's).
Don't remind me. Whoever wrote a plot outline for D2 needs to be fired.

Bethesda Defense Force are out in full force

I bet these faggots forgot about Prey 2.

>>376440602
>>376440932
>You can hack the keypad, search (or charm/intimidate the guard) for the keycode, or break the door down with high strength/heavy gear
>lel those aren't options since you still get through the door :^)

>>376441120
Just watch one episode anon. Just one.

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>it's all a simulation

>>376441150
prey 2 was shit according to the bethesda insider

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>>376441150
>I bet these faggots forgot about Prey 2.
How can i forget a thing that didn't exist?

>>376441193
>It's ok when Nolan do it

>>376441141
>i was only pretending to be retarded

>>376441193
I really fucking wish that was just the midway point and we actually get to play in post ayy invasion earth

>>376441149
>Pausing every two seconds to bring up a weapon wheel and select a power
>Powers require a resource to be used but also have a cool down for no reason

Thanks consoles.

>>376441208
You're going to trust someone from a company that shat out Fallout 3 and 4, Oblivion, Skyrim, etc.

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>>376441261

It was shit when he did it too

That movie was awful, sue me

>>376441296
You have hotkey select if you prefer that.

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>>376441296
you can assign them to shortcuts if you're so cool. I'm an old man, i need some time to find the right power.

The only thing that really annoyed me about the game is the little enemy variety, and thats.. pretty much it, i know there are different varations to the phantoms and mimics but its like Battlefield 1 when they tried to cover up the lack of weapons with variations..

the ending was a letdown but they're the least important part for me in a game, i guess “It’s not the destination so much as the journey" is true for me.

and thats about it, its a rock solid 8.5/9 out of 10
its not revolutionary but it might be remembered more as a cult classic, at least for me

>>376441326
yes, I would rather trust him than you

>>376441208
>prey 2 was shit according to the bethesda insider
wow
Slow down there Tex.

You mean to tell me the people associated with an attempted hostile take over of a third party company BEMOANED THE GAME IN QUESTION TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK BETTER?

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

>>376441296
you literally have a quickbar though

>>376441427
Well them.
You're just naive.

>>376441150
>I bet these faggots forgot about Prey 2.
>believing E3 trailers and "demos"

Prey 2 was never going to be good

>>376441208
Hey also said the newer one was shit as well when it clearly isn't, he might just be a bad judge of quality.

>>376430118
I-I am enjoying it

System shock 2 is so a fps lol. Just because your not constantly killing hordes of Russian soldiers doesn't mean it's not an fps.

As for Prey im just taking it slow, and yeah its like SystemShock2.0, how is that bad exactly?

Lack of enemy variety is a little frustrating, especially on Nightmere..

>>376428612
The first is basically "Is not that i'm a casual, is the game that is bad": the review. The game seems decent, like an 8, to be honest.

>>376441427
Yikes, kys my man before you taint the industry any more.

>>376441508
And this Prey isn't good either. Mediocre at best.

>>376440604
We all ended up in the universe where vidya is slowely being turned into shit, and where it's considered ''normal'' to not be too passionate about any one thing. Unless it's a popular sport or sex.

>>376440829
>>376441018

The ending is terrible yeah, for me it was a massive turn down and left me quite upset that there was no climax whatsoever.
Side quests are just "go here grab this" most of the time, having to follow a marker because otherwise you wouldn't know where to go.
Sometimes they make nice world-building but I found that situation to be a rare one.

I'll agree that the environments are excellently well build and that some log conversations build nice characters but in my opinion there is too much of them to keep track of their doings by just listening to logs and most of them have quite a plain personality. But that's probably me biased just because Shodan and The Many left the bar too high.
Also through the main quest the game will require you to sit down and listen because there will always be an enemy if you go forward in a new area while you are listening to some character tell you what's going to happen next, which I don't remember being a problem in SS2.

>>376441585
No, but you're going to keep pretending that.

>>376441437
>Believing the developers

Yeah, they're totally not biased towards the game they've been working on at all. I bet Hello Games believes NMS is totally amazing and if anyone says otherwise they're just lying.

>>376441594
when was being too passionate about sex socially acceptable?

>Bad Combat
>You can literally float a ghost faggot into the roof, and then throw a bunch of chairs at him till he dies
>You can turn yourself into a robot and shoot a nigger with B I G G U N
>Plays exactly like bioshock and system shock, but the combat is bad

Salt confirmed

>>376441507
and you aren't? All you have is some trailer and a 10 min demo, yet you still believe human head's lies about the game

>>376440201
You're so wrong.
Bioshock is basically a linear FPS with some good art design. Prey shits all over it when it comes to being an actual System Shock successor.

>muh SS2 is bettah WAAAHHH

What is wrong with you people? We finally get a good game in the same vein of SS2 and all you can do is complain that you like SS2 better than Prey and thereby Prey is shit? Seriously, go fuck yourselves, you nostalgic cunts.

>>376441552
I bet you think Deus Ex is a fps. Fucking nu-/v/ is so warped by those WRPG tier lists I wouldnt doubt they love all the same movies /tv/ does.

>>376440715
A lot of roguelikes are not roguelikes

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>>376441631
>Sometimes they make nice world-building but I found that situation to be a rare one.
I mean, if you run along the marker, sure they're boring. If you actually stop to read the fluff and make your own conclusion on what to do and where to go, it's a whole different story.

>>376432804
This was the sequel

>>376441709
>>376441656

>yet you still believe human head's lies about the game
And you're believing a person with the company that attempted to buy them out via cutting their only source of revenue.

The Bethesdrones are out in full force today. And they will continue to do so until this game falls to the bargain bin alongside other STELLAR Bethesda releases like Hunted..

>>376441631
>Side quests are just "go here grab this" most of the time, having to follow a marker because otherwise you wouldn't know where to go.

thats a nope, they are also quite annoying and more often than not I had to read the description. Way more times than I would in most other modern games.

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>>376428612
Wasn't Big Bad Bethesda supposed to bribe reviewers and use manipulate everyone with Illuminati dark magic into liking the game?
I mean that's what they do for all their published games.
What happened?

Apparently devs said there is a Prey (2006) easter egg in the GUTS.
Can anyone confirm?

>>376441747
> Prey shits all over it when it comes to being an actual System Shock successor.
Just no. Why do you even try at this point? The game is confirmed a blunderbomb. No one will fall for your shilling.
The game is trash, the sales are trash. It's dead, time to let go.

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Prey isn't perfect, but it's definitely a callback to a time when the game developers put a lot of care into their work.

>>376442020
it's honestly sad that due to Denuvo, you little kids will never get to play games anymore

>>376441980
>being this butthurt 6 years later

Wow

>>376441980
>And you're believing a person with the company that attempted to buy them out via cutting their only source of revenue.

After the developer had failed all milestones, missed deadlines, and breached contract by working on other games for other publishers.


Who would have thought, everyone is a shitty person. There is no innocence. There are no good guys.

Fuck you.

>>376441637
Are you the developer? What's it like to half-heartedly appeal to classic hardcore PC gamers only for everyone to be dissatisfied by with what they see as a mediocre SS2 wanna-be?

>>376441774
>We finally get a good game in the same vein of SS2
Neo-Prey is nothing like SS2. It's a carbon copy of Bioshit Infinite.

>>376441980
We are Arkanedrones, anon. Don't confuse us. We don't necessarily like bethesda. Quite the opposite.

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>tfw waiting until I get paid this week so I can buy a 1050ti and play Prey

>>376441995
They found out that shills will do it for free.

>>376441685
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret.

Sex sells, is everywhere in every media/artform/culture and being a sexual deviant is only bad when it involves children and rape.

>>376442109
>It's a carbon copy of Bioshit Infinite.
I can tell you haven't played either

>>376442109
I really wish there was a way to make people play games before they were allowed to shitpost about them.

>>376442109
Please explain.

Man I really want to play this game cause I'm an Arkanefag but I'm poor as fuck right now.

Gonna wait for a sale.

>>376442038
Hell, I just like that it works right out of the gate.

Especially after Dishonored 2 and DXMD.

>>376442020
>hurr shill
Great argument dude, you sure showed me.

>>376441880
But you know when he says roguelikes he includes roguelites too.

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>>376442247
>Especially after Dishonored 2 and DXMD.
tfw both worked out of the gate perfectly for me.

>>376441437
He also bemoaned nu-Prey, a game that his company is trying to sell, dummy

>>376442086
>After the developer had failed all milestones, missed deadlines, and breached contract by working on other games for other publishers.
Uh, no. Literally no. They stopped work because Bethesda refused to pay their milestone payments.

And breach of contract? Eat shit on that front. They are a third party developer like Obsidian. They can do work with anyone and anything at any time they like.

Fuck off shill.

>>376442109
That's blatantly not true considering Infinite is a corridor shooter with super powers while this game actually attempts to be an FPS-RPG.

>>376442345
what's that yellow/orange stuff?

Anyone else find the aliens really unsatisfying to kill?

>>376428756
lack of enemy variety was a bit annoying.

>>376442345
just pyroblast the nests

>>376442372
Why are you so quick to believe Human Head when they're shady and known liars?

>>376430479
Zenimax, was was just their legal division, outgrew them and bought control of Bethesda ar around 2008. I don't have a link but they brag about when they did it and said they had big plans on forcing thing to happen that Bethesda didn't want to do. For example, Bethesda was against TESO and had no part in making it but was forced to allow it to happen (and I heard they are also forced to consider it canon).

>>376442086
>>376442372
You're both shilling, stop it.

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>>376442408
Aliums are weaving their neuroweb all over the station, by the end of the game it's fucking everywhere.

You can get a chip that regenerates you Psi when you stand in it.

>>376442535
you're shilling too

>>376433114
Completely disgusting

>>376442438
They aren't responsive enough to gunshots. Game needed robotic enemies so you can blast limbs off, or more human enemies so you can have some gore.

Console trash. Stop putting this on the level of a legend-tier masterpiece like System Shock or Thief.

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>>376428612
You know you are dealing with a professional, paid Bethesda/Arkane $hill when he compares PЯ3Y to System Shock 2 instead of the Bioshock games in his posts.

>>376442175
Nobody "shilled" Prey except for a handful of Shock series nostalgics, so that's a shit explanation.

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>>376442470
>Playing as a filty xeno scum
no thanks

>>376442483
>Why are you so quick to believe Human Head when they're shady and known liars?
Hello Bethesda. Human Head has been in the business for years and before the Prey 2 situation, never ONCE had an incident with any developer and publisher. Ever.

Unless you can back up your bullshit, then just sit down and shut up.

Is femYu bearable? Gonna do another playthrough and wonder if it's worth to switch

Those webms really display how dull and derivative this game is. Thanks for boring me webmfag.