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Is this still considered a bad roster?

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Is this still considered a bad roster?
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No, it suddenly became a good one while no one was looking.

What kind of fucking question is that, OP? Fuck you and fuck off.
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>>376416549
Why didn't they add Diddy Kong?
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There's 5 Marios. Take a guess.
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Eh. It could be better.
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>>376416890
He has his own series
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>>376416549

its still pretty bad but it's much better than before
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>>376417385
>What is Mario Kart Wii?
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>>376416890
Part of the Kong DLC with Dixie and Funky
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No Kirby no buy
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>>376417514
what kind of opinion is this? why did you expect kirby in mario kart?
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>>376416549
>Playing anyone else than King Boo or Donkey Kangz
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>>376416549
Baby peach, baby daisy, tanooki mario and tanooki peach should be switched for unique characters.

>petey piranha, toadsworth, kamek, birdo, monty mole, hammer bro, fawful, diddy kong, samus, pikachu

They had options.
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>>376417595
Did we expect any other Nintendo franchises in Mario Kart EVER?
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>>376417728
nobody liked Fawful
he was never good
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MK7 ruined the series with it's rushed bullshit. And they still didn't bring Wriggler into 8.
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>>376417773
no, but it would be just as unreasonable to expect they WOULD add those franchises without any evidence
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>>376416549
It's even worse than it was before
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>>376417971
that's obviously not true anon. a lot of people like fawful.
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>>376417728
>Birdo
>Monty Mole
>Hammer Bro
>Kamek
>Probably won't see them arrive or return until MK9, if there will be one
it hurts
so much
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MKDS was the last good game in the series
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>>376418032
>evidence
>implying there was any goddamn evidence prior to Link and Animal Crossing or Splatoon

If you don't like Kirby, you can just say so.
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>Probably won't see them arrive or return until MK9, if there will be one
>if there will be one

there's never going to be another mario kart as long as we live. the massively successful series that's been going on for decades is obviously over. of course. how could i have been so blind.
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>>376418519
i literally just said in my post it would be unreasonable BECAUSE there's no evidence. just like it would be unreasonable to expect kirby. learn to fucking read, mong.
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>>376418419
How ironic, it was also the first good one.
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Owww shiet, MK9 retro track list just leaked !1!!!11!

>Shell cup
3DS Wuhu Loop
Wii Toad's factory
SNES Bowser castle 2
N64 Wario stadium

>Banana cup
GCN Mushroom city
WiiU Super bell subway
GBA Lakeside park
3DS Wario Shipyard

>Leaf cup
WiiU Mario kart stadium
DS Shroom Ridge
GCN Wario colosseum
GBA Bowser castle 4

>Lightning cup
DS Mario circuit
WiiU Big Blue
Wii Bowser castle
GBA Rainbow road

r8, appreci8 , masturb8
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>>376418529
We don't know if MK9 will be on Switch anyway. They could just release DLC for MK8D and call it a day.
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It still fucking triggers me every time I see it, so I'm going to go with yes.

Dry bones and boo were great additions, but that would never undo the fucking bloat that the babies, koopalings, and alternate Mario's cause.

However I do blame the roster entirely on wiiu-era Nintendo. Deluxe is already fixing almost every problem 8 had thanks to them, but obviously you couldn't remove characters without upsetting people. 9 is definitely going to be better
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>>376416549
It's alright, but in my opinion we don't need like 5 marios, 4 peaches, and the baby variants when they're so many other character's in mario's universe to choose from.
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>>376418748
>Gba rainbow road
Just fucking kill me
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>>376418797

you're right anon. nintendo has really shaped up since their wii u blunder. i loved wii u but it was insanely out of left field and a terrible call by nintendo. i'm just glad they realized the stupid decisions they've been making(some of them, at least)
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>>376416549
Just take out the third row and we're good. Then add Funky the Main Monkey.
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>>376418797
>Deluxe is already fixing almost every problem 8

>Can get chained by red-shells in one spot
>Get nothing but coins once you hit 3rd place
>Double items is done poorly when compared to Double Dash
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>>376416549
>Mario, Metal Mario, Baby Mario and Tanooki Suit Mario are considered different people and can all race at the same time

Putting fucking Master Chief in a kart would be easier to explain.
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>>376416549
they should've said fuck it and made metal and tanooki/cat versions of everyone
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>>376418698
That truth hurts, anon. I still hold 64 and SNES dearly
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>>376419036
Now it's goty
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>>376416549

>babies

yes, it will always be
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>>376418957
Wii-U was easily the WORST time for Nintendo. Hardware, games, public image, literally everything was the worst for them it had ever been. Luckily the switch seems to be going in the exact opposite direction
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>>376419056
Getting a double item box guarantees you at least one defensive item even if you're in first and miles ahead. Infinitely better than vanilla MK8 where you had to pray not to get a coin.
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>>376419036

NOWWE'RETALKING.jpg
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>>376416549
Where is HE?
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>>376418639
I just gave you some goddamn evidence - Kirby on fucking Rainbow Road Wii. That is more "evidence" than any other character got, which was none.

You keep thinking you're being logical, but you have 0 basis for any approval or denial of brainstorming and wishes, so you're actually just being a gigantic asshole.
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OwO i'm glad cat mario made it in he's super cute
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>>376419414
das tanooki
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>>376419342
>kirby in a smash bros stage

really strong evidence. maybe you'll see little mac in bayonetta 3 too
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>>376419056
>That's just a problem with the franchise as a whole.
>I agree that they should have gotten rid of the coin as an item, or at the very least made it give you 5 or even 10 coins to make it worth the item box
>I think the double items are actually much more balanced than in DD. People would debate that you should be able to swap the items, but forget that in DD where you could swap them, you only ever got a second item from a double box, while here you get a second from single boxes too. It's a fair exchange
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>>376418913
>>376418748
>GBA rainbow road on 200cc
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>4 Marios

Yup. Pretty shit.
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>>376417009
WHOS THE FIFTH
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>>376419654
>Baby
>Tanooki
>Mario
>Metal
>Gold
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>>376419342
I feel Nintendo put Link, Inklings, and the villagers/Isabelle due to their popularity.

Those series are "relevant" when compared to titles from Nintendo's other franchises.

That being said, I would've loved to have kirby instead of him being a Mii Costume
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>>376419629
>>376419654
>they don't know
You get Gold Mario by completing 200cc.
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>>376419654
Gold Mario. He's a reskin of fucking Metal Mario but with different stats.
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>>376419458
Didn't say it wasn't flawed, but a lot of people hoped for KAR2 or Kirby in MK8 after such a montage.

But really, why would Nintendo go and do something fun or good these days? There's too much cost in that.
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>>376416549
I didn't consider it bad in vanilla. The only stupid choices are the princess babies. Koopalings are fine and PGP is just hilarious. I'll take that over Honey Queen.
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>>376419729
>>376419714

oh neat, thanks, i actually didn't know that since i haven't played that much mk8
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>>376419714
You could argue that Gold's the same as Metal since they're in the same slot.

Like, you wouldn't say there were 6 inklings.
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>>376419314
Just imagine the endless shitstorm here after an HE announcement for mario kart / smash... I want to be alive to see this.
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>>376419720
Why does popularity have to matter?

So they can sell DLC.

Frankly, then, I'm happy that he's not in, if he's just going to be a whore.
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>>376419176

This, but keep Metal Mario and have 5 other Nintendo characters in their place.
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>>376419794
Babies in general are retarded, though I can see why Baby Mario/Luigi are still in there as they've been playable since DD.

Still, wasted slots.
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>>376419783

haha. i think nintendo is getting their shit together to be fair. i have to admit it WOULD be cool to see kirby in a mario kart game
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>>376419875
HE
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>>376419458
>Trailer shows them toying around with the idea of Kirby on a race track that appears in every MK
>Kirby's already had his own racing game
>This is the same as a Punchout x Bayonetta crossover

Not him, but you're a fucking idiot for missing the point completely. Rainbow Road isn't originally a Smash Bros original stage either, retard.
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Yes, it's inferior to glorious Sonic Racing Transformed
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>>376416549

It's a mixed bag.
BAD
>Mario
>Baby Mario
>Metal Mario
>Tanooki Mario
>5 Babies overall
>4 Peaches
>NO Diddy
>All these babies yet DK Jr. didn't make it somehow but Babby Rosa is ok...

GOOD
>Dry bones
>Koopa troopa
>Koopa Kids even Bowser Jr.
>King Boo
>DLC characters are neat though why a Male and Female villager separate? Make it one slot like Smash Bros and a ton of color options

Anyway, when your favorite character is Toad, you never have to worry about him being gone ever.
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>>376419714
dont forget bad mario, green mario, bad green mario, and baby green mario
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>>376416549
Let us see here..

>Metal Mario
>Gold Mario
>Tanooki Mario
>Pink Gold Peach
>Stinky Pussy Peach
>ALL THE BABIES

Yeah, it's shit.

I wanna see:

>Birdo
>Diddy Kong
>Funky Kong
>Candy Kong
>King Bob-Omb
>Hammer Bro
>Kamek
>NABBIT
>Pauline
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>>376418752

I would like to think that each console should get it's own unique Mario Kart, but with how successful the Switch version is, I can see Nintendo just calling it a day. Deluxe is what the game should have been from day one.
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>>376419993
Super Mario Odyssey is the only indicator of that. And even that's weakened by a nice, loud, ear-destroying MARIOOOOOOOO

IF, BIG FUCKING IF, the Zelda team comes back from their BotW experiment and gives it a true LoZ story and thematics around a Hyrule Field that uses the best elements of BotW, plays like Zelda 1 was supposed to, like LttP ALMOST pulled off, then yes I'd say Nintendo has got it.
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Feel like Miyamoto has a baby fetish.
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>>376416717
Underrated first post, shut the fuck up OP
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>>376420395
He has a fetish for driving Nintendo into the ground
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>>376416549
Drop Tanooki Mario, Cat Peach, and the entire third row asides from metal Mario. Add in

Lightweights
>Diddy Kong
>Kamek
>Kirby

Medium Weights
>Birdo
>Captain Falcon

Heavyweights
>Petey Piranha
>Funky Kong
>R.O.B.

There, I fixed your game.
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>>376420528
That to, all his current "innovations" ruin Nintendo's franchises.

Just look at Star Fox.
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>>376420646
It's amazing really
>Star fox
>Paper Mario
>F zero
>Nsmb
>Wii U as a whole
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>Candy Kong
>King Bob-Omb
>Pauline

Nintendo gotta hire this nigger, he is be able to make the roster even worse.
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>>376420389

i feel like botw is pretty damn good for a zelda game. it doesn't really align with what most zelda games are but there's only improvement from here. the main reason botw really blew me away(since i honestly don't actually care much for the gameplay) was because i never imagined nintendo could step so far outside the box. they just need to pick out what pieces work and what pieces don't.
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>>376420805

>>376420267
forgot the post
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>>376420805
>Having taste THIS shit

I feel bad for you anny
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At what point do they just accept that this isn't a "Mario" game and starting including Kirby, Pitt, Marth, etc. in this series?
Always seemed like they would never add characters no from the Mario universe, but now we've got Link and Animal Crossing Dude so why not throw in everyone?
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>>376419985
I actually agree with you but I think Baby Mario and Luigi have some level of relevancy. Doesn't mean I ever want to play as them though.
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It's better than DK-with-clothes Kart Wii
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>>376417595
>Link
>Animal Crossing characters
>Slatoon characters
>Miis
It's not limited to the Mario universe anymore, they might as well go full Smash Bros
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>>376420963
baby mario and luigi have earned a spot in roster since they have a place in mario lore. the other babies don't
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>>376420953
>>376421153
>>376417514
>>376420645
If you make everything Smash Bros then Smash Bros isn't special anymore
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>>376421153
I'd be down for Super Smash Kart.
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>>376419036
How does having less improve anything?
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>>376419176
Make the ones with arrows alternate skins and now you have space for a fuck ton of characters
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>>376421256
Ok fine. Drop Kirby and Captain Falcon from my list and keep Baby Mario and Luigi.
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>>376421185
Baby Peach is in Partners in Time.
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>>376416549
>animal crossing rep
>zelda rep
>donkey kong rep
>splatoon rep

Super Smash Kart when ?
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>>376421381
o yea, my bad. partners in time is more 'spinoff' than something like yoshi's island though
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>>376416549
so, is this game legit worth getting or no? Don't wanna bother paying $60 so i can get ass fucked by a dozen red shells if it's anything like Dunkey's video.
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>>376421328
What the fuck? This is terrible. The Koopalings were given different body sizes and animations. Some have different shell shapes and limbs. They aren't just headswaps. You may as well make Luigi an alt for Mario. Fuck off.
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im gonna main the fuck out of baby waluigi in MK10
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>>376421328
>now you have space for a fuck ton of characters
That's not how rosters work. They aren't limited to the space that's there. They could have had them as separate spaces and just made the icons smaller to fit more. Making them alts on other characters doesn't suddenly give them more reign to add something else.
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>>376417475
Imagine if they really release paid content
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I honestly didn't think roster arguments got dumber than smash bros threads. I was wrong.
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Yes, it's really shit.

>Too many Marios
>Too many babbies
>No Kamek
>No Petey
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they can add all the suits, metal and babies they want as long as they just give me back ROB
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>>376419729

Spoilers, dammit!
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>>376420646
>>376420528
>>376420395
Always fun to see a great man insulted by people who have no idea what they are talking about spewing lies.
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What about a Mario vs Sonic Kart Racing ? With Mario kart gameplay ofc because sasr is pure trash :^)
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>>376421438
jesus i feel ashamed for ever even thinking fnaf 1 looked mildly interesting after seeing what it has become now
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>>376421328
Are you retarded?
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>Donkey Kong was a major release for WiiU
>Still only one DK character
>Even though earlier one had at least Diddy Kong as well
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>>376421568
then just group the ones with different weight with each other? you magnificent retard
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>>376421328
>put this much work into your imaginary roster
>get roasted

sorry, anon. hahaha
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>>376419176
I can tolerate the babies because they are very different from their grown up counterparts, however tanooki/cat and metal mario/peach are basically just a costume and a power up.
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Remove:
>Tanooki Mario and cat peach
>Metal Mario and Pink Gold Peach
>Baby peach, Daisy, and Roselina
>All 7 koopalings

Add:
>Birdo
>King Bobomb
>Diddy Kong
>Kremling
>Wart
>Petty Parahna
>Mona
>E Gad
>Toadsworth
>Kiddy Kong
>ROB
>Toy Mario from Mario vs Dokey Kong
>Cap from Mario Odyssey
>Dry Donkey Kong
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>>376421328

>alternate dry bones and koopa

FUCK OFF
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>>376421961
Explain to me what is wrong with koopalings. Also lemmy is great.
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>>376419458
>implying a punch out bayonetta crossover would be bad
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>>376421854
>different weight
>With each other
I'm going to assume you meant the exact opposite of that.

The only ones with the same weight are Iggy and Ludwig.
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>>376422060
Pure bloat.

Honestly I wouldn't mind if we got 2 or 3 of them, but having an entire row of like-characters is distracting, ugly, and takes away from other characters. Especially considering quite a few of them don't share animations. It's a waste of dev time when the effort could have gone toward diversifying the roster a bit. You don't think koopalings taking up an entire 6th of the roster isn't a bit much?
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>>376420818
Granted, I know -exactly- the sense of linearity and dread that Aonuma is talking about when he refers to the Zelda formula. I contend that previous entries had less of this problem using simple-layout dungeons, an overworld with enemies, and refreshing side quests plus exploration that weren't overwhelming, but it is what it is.

Picking out the best pieces and parts is going to be a challenge for Nintendo, when "best" is subjective.

There's no doubt that the traditional formula should feel more like a challenge (though perhaps not in the form of ragdoll Souls-shit, doesn't fit Link/LoZ), but there's still the matter of refining the formula.

The mass market doesn't even bother with story. They can barely handle 3D gameplay.
People pay attention to the speedrunning - do you focus on that?
Do you make the bosses more challenging?
Should there be a focus on replay value? Or destroy it entirely in favor of the completionism compulsion (see: Fallout, Elder Scrolls)? Strong case for that.
Low budget cel-shaded graphics, or make one like this?

That's the gigantic challenge that faces Nintendo currently. And this time, they don't have Club Nintendo surveys to help them, so I expect that the next LoZ will be as bad as any of Nintendo's recent outings.
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>>376416549
>green mario
>blonde girl mario
>brunette girl mario
>space girl mario
>furry mario
>furry blonde girl mario
>baby mario
>baby green mario
>baby blonde girl mario
>baby brunette girl mario
>baby space girl mario
>metal mario
>pink gold metal blonde girl mario
>fat yellow mario
>skinny purple green mario
I get that it's called MARIO kart but this shit is getting out of hand.
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>>376422250
Main villains that have appeared since the NES and continue to do so deserve their spots on the roster
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>>376422250
>they don't share animations
>this is a problem

that means they're being fleshed out. which means they become real characters. which is a good thing, anon. i don't really care about koopalings either but i see a lot of people really love playing them so i'm cool with the amount. meanwhile, who the fuck is playing baby rosalina?
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>>376422250
I'm pretty sure the only ones you could remove without a lot of people being bummed about it are Wendy and Iggy.
>inb4 Wendy and Iggy fans
There aren't a lot of you.
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>>376416549
Who cares? You can carry two items now. The game is effectively ruined beyond salvage.
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>>376421697
>liking Petey Piranha
He's a fat, daiper wearing plant with an outie.
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>>376421552
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theres barely any characters really

4 marios
7 koopas
etc
i mean sure theyre different handling and all but would it be too much to ask to have a more diverse smashesque roster?
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>>376422295
>Picking out the best pieces and parts is going to be a challenge for Nintendo, when "best" is subjective.

i don't entirely agree -- certain aspects of video games can be objectively good or bad. zelda doesn't have to go in a specific direction(linear, nonlinear, replaybility, etc). in fact, botw proves it can go in any direction and still succeed. they need to figure out what the problems are in botw and what the positives are. for example, i think shrines are a great idea but poorly executed and an awful, barebones replacement of dungeons. i think progression is important in zelda games and botw does not offer enough. it's things like this that make breath of the wild feel un-zelda
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>>376422518

>never played double dash
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>>376422447
No, it means they are wasting dev time.
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>>376421738
>Miyamoto shoehorns motion control into SF Zero
>Miyamoto messing with Other M's Development when he was merely there to observe
>Miyamoto not wanting to make a new F-Zero, as he doesn't know how to create more gimmicks for it.
>Miyamoto barring anyone from making Paper Mario based outside of the Mushroom Kingdom after TTYD
>NSMB Shovelware

He was/is a great man, but all his constant "innovations" and his peers not telling him "no" is fucking up franchises.
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>>376422409
>Green Mario
>Purple Mario
>Baby Mario
>Yellow Mario
>Baby Green Mario
>Lady Mario
>Red Mario?
>Metal Mario
>Baby Lady Mario
>Koopa!
>Daddy Koopa
>Kid Koopa
>Pink Koopa
>Kid Koopa
>Pink Koopa
>Kid Koopa
>Sonic the Koopa
>Donkey Kong
>and Danica Patrick
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>all that non-marioshit in mariokart
No way fag. Even babby rosa is better than Link and Shitager because at least she's Mario related.
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>>376422937

>wasting dev time by giving unique characters unique animations

okay, anon. it's fine if you don't like the koopalings but it's stupid to say they're wasting time on them when they've been huge in mario since the fucking 80s
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>>376421738
Always fun to see blind fans sucking Miyamoto's dick.
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>>376423116
All 7 koopalings should not be given the same amount of individual dev time a normal character should be given. They are not interesting, they are not fun to play as, and they are boring compared to other characters they could have been. Do people really disagree with this? Same deal with the babies
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>>376423347
>Do people really disagree with this?

you already know the answer to this. look how many people here love the koopalings.
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>>376416549
13 clones wort rouster since meelee
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>>376422935
You're right. That doesn't change the fact that giving people two items is the most retarded idea ever.
As if being spammed from 1st to last wasn't bad enough before.
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>>376422845
If it can go in any direction and succeed (I disagree, see the DS/multi games and SS), then that's a factor of the buying base and not a factor of the games themselves. The series' Core market is what lets them be versatile --

And they were established with the traditional games.
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>>376423498

i don't know about you amigo but i had a fucking blast playing that crazy 2 item shit in DD
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>>376423498
this is why i don't wanna buy the game, it's lopsided af from what i've seen others stream.
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>>376416549
Why is donkey kong on the villain row, anyway?
He kidnapped one woman over 30 years ago, can't you fuckers let that go?
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>>376423609
she was a white woman, he's forever the villain.
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>>376423347
My only question is what would you replace them with? They're all established characters from mario games with unique designs.
The babies and mario/peach palette swaps should be cut first.
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>>376421798

Would be great, so people like this >>376420084 will stop opening their mouth full of shit and understand why Mario kart is superior. Look at how dead your online is, people don't want to play it at all and there's no competitive scene.
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>>376423528

i actually like phantom hourglass a lot hahaha. didn't try spirit tracks though.

what i mean by going in any direction, is, a zelda game COULD be linear, nonlinear, etc, and i believe nintendo is smart enough to make it work. you're probably right about the core market being the main reason zelda will always succeed, but you can't deny that SS and recent zeldas have muddled consumer faith in the series. botw brought that faith back for a lot of people and that's undeniable.
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>>376423797
Trust me, the koopalings are fare from the bane of my existence. I'd much rather have them than a row of babies. There is a TON of potential for characters that could replace them though. Just look at
>>376421961
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>>376419176
fied your fixed
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>>376423814
damn, they must be really missing out on the competitive-party-racing-game scene huh?
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>Mario, Mario Tanooki , Mario Baby, Metal Mario
>Peach, Peach Tanooki, Baby Peach, Metal Peach
>A whole roll of the koopa kids nobody likes
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>>376423814
>there's no competitive scene
Now I've seen everything.
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>>376423935
>a hat is ok
>consistent bosses aren't
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>>376424035
I like them
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>>376423848
Eh, like Star Fox Zero, it was pretty much the controls that muddied those entries. Otherwise, they would be held in the same regard as the Oracle games.

Ah, okay, yes that's true. And not just restored faith - BotW's marketing and TES-copying brought a lot of mass market attention.

Let's see if Nintendo knows what to do with what it has learned.
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>>376423935
here's my question: why replace them? replace the shit palette swaps, and add more unique characters, instead of removing the characters a lot of people actually love to play as.

>Dry Donkey Kong
>more relevant than Koopalings

u gotta be fuckin kidding me at this point
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>>376424035
>A whole roll of the koopa kids nobody likes
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>>376423979
>>376424046
Better than absolutely nothing, does this game even have a time trial mode ? Because there's no result bar speedrunners shit on youtube
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>>376416549
Daisy, Shy guy, Dry bones, Dry Bowser.

Dry bones better have his fucking tank.

All the essentials are there.
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>>376417385
>He ha
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>>376424081
>>376424242
Fuck guys, I didn't say the whole list was perfect, but yea, turns out I would prefer Diddy or Egad to Lemmy.

Also dry Donkey Kong is a great joke character idea. Id be thrilled if they added that.

>>376424242
>Why replace them
They are boring. Boring boring boring. Like, yea okay they have been a Mario staple for a long time, but they are still SEVEN roster spaces all for essentially the same character. There is no veriety in that whole row except this koopaling has blue hair, or that koopaling has googly eyes. It would be no different than a row of toads with different hats on
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>>376416549
A few bad apples can spoil the bunch.
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>>376418748
>No legs

dropped.
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>>376422409
my favorite is animal crossing mario
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Mario Kart 9 better have a Rainbow Cup, 8 races long, all the Rainbow Roads from the previous games in a row.
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>>376416549
As long as babies and reskins take up about a quarter of where other enemies/etc could've been, no not really.

Also why a third AC character? Why not have male/female just be alternate skins when we could've had Captain Falcon, Fox or Samus instead?
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>>376424785
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>>376424704
well yea, man, i would love seeing prof e.gadd and diddy in mario kart, and i would pick them over koopalings, but i wouldn't WANT to ditch the koopalings for them, even if i don't really like em. i want the best of both worlds. trust me when i say a lot of people don't think the koopalings are as boring as you think they are. to say they're as simple as different color toads isn't a fair comparison.
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>>376416549
Super Bell, Metal Box, and something that turns you into a baby should just be power-ups.
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>people in this thread unironically want to remove the koopa kids but keep baby bowser

Nu-/v/ was a mistake. If you were born after 1990 just go back to plebbit where you belong.
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>>376423609
not the same DK
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>>376423943
>scarpping the koopalings
You just made it worse.
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>>376425340
Baby Bowser takes up a 7th of the space the koopalings do
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>>376424962
*sorry meant yeah, had a brainfart and thought you said "good".
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>>376425340
fuck off newfag
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>>376425806
>implying he's wrong
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>>376417514
What are you talking about anon?

https://twitter.com/SmashingRenders/status/861708476904611840
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>>376421116
Has more characters and still manages to be shit
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>>376425050
They may as well be now.

For all of you oldfags that don't understand the hate for the Koopalings, it's because they're worthless, now.
We grew up back when they accompanied weird-shit worlds and had their own ways of doing things. Not to mention their own styles.
Now they're not even Bowser's kids, they're just different flavors of sorcerers.

Whoever is making Mario boring at Nintendo needs to be fired.
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>>376421116
Funny how Rosa Is crossed out in Deluxe but not Wii.
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>>376426271

Thanks for telling us all how we should be ashamed of what we like. Now I see how boring the Koopalings are. I'm enlightened.
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>>376423026
All of these are either major exaggerations or blatantly false, or a total matter of opinion.
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>>376421116
Holy crap look at those polygons, I've never realized how much of a piece of shit the Wii was.
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>>376426507

welcome to /v/ where hearsay runs rampant. only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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>>376421256
Smash Bros is a party fighting game though.
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>>376422682
n-no it's not a diaper, it's a pair of briefs
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>>376423609
Yeah King Boo and DK should swap places. Or maybe put Dry Bones next to Koopa and put King Boo in his place, I don't know.
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>>376418748
Where is Waluigi Pinball you hack
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>>376422683
>Do you own a Switch?
>No
>Buy a Switch

What kind of retard made this?
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>>376418748
Why doesn't Wii Rainbow Road get more love?
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>>376427319
babbys first flowchart
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>>376419453
His name is scrotum racoon.
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>>376423026
I know >>376426507 already said it but I'm going to repeat it just to emphasize it.

All of these are either major exaggerations or blatantly false, or a total matter of opinion.
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>>376416549
It's actually the best roster in the series by far. The only ones missing are Diddy and Birdo.

Just watch this shit so you get some context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpLn4RSl8O0
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>>376427376
Not enough nostalgia yet. Give it a few years.
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>>376427214
In MK7
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>>376427214
In Mario Kart 7.
>tfw Mario Kart 7 stole a lot of good retro tracks that won't be in other games for a while
>No Waluigi Pinball, Maple Treeway, Luigi's Mansion, Kalimari Desert, Daisy Cruiser, Koopa Kape and Dino Dino Jungle in HD on the Wii u/Switch
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>>376427376
I keep saying we need a special extra long retro cup that is just all the rainbow roads.
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How's this roster?
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>>376427801
But Luigi's Mansion is in MK8
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>>376421701
Where is star fox?
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>>376427886
3DS Rainbow Road on 200c would be pretty brutal desu.
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>>376427886
I was hoping to see DS Rainbow Road with anti gravity, actually.
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>>376428048
>>>>>>>>>Mona
>not Ashley
get a clue grannyfucker
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>>376428048
Better than what we have, but I'm still not a fan of the koopalings
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>>376428079
Takes place after F-Zero, its ROB is named after the original.
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>>376428181
Don't you have enough pedo bait in the game already? You got the fucking inklings now
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>>376426494
It's fine to like the Koopalings back when they were interesting, but the only Koopalings that these kids know are just minions that don't really do anything besides show up everywhere.
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>>376428048
kek, I totally forgot that Birdo was a thing.

I hope Nintendo keeps it that way. By now even that Poochie dog is more relevant than her.
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>>376428181
Mona actually drives a moped though. I picked her and Diddy Kong because they actually deserve to be in a Kart racing game more than most other mario spinoff characters.
>>
>"Wahhhh! I wanted Diddy Kong, Birdo, etc. Pink Gold Peach, Tanooki Mario, etc took their spot!"
I'm tired of this argument. Simple palette swap clones do not take the place of your favorite character
Same thing goes for Smash Bros
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>>376428191

Then you're underaged and grew up with bowser jr.
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>>376430554
Actually I grew up with the N64, so none of them.

Not my fault even Nintendo thought the koopalings were shitty enough to ignore until the wii
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>>376416549

yes. nintendokart when?
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>>376420267
Replace candy kong eith Fawful and you have the perfect additions.
>>
>>376421376
Perfect
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>>376428072
I mean the actual racetrack and not the battle arena.
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>>376428048
>No Baby Mario
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>>376420191
>bad green mario
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>>376430919
Hopefully never.
>>
>>376416549
I still would rather DKR vs. MK be a thing. I liked in DKR how collecting prizes upgraded your shit prizes.
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>>376427801
This. Coconut mall too. All these wasted on a 240p console, and little to no changes made.
>>
>Animal crossing characters
>Legend of Zelda character
>Splatoon characters
>In MARIO kart
When do we get fire emblem characters?
>>
>>376433037
Soon hopefully. Not before Kirby tho.
>>
>>376420805
Bro, what is wrong with King Bob-Omb? Candy is controversial, but Pauline would be fine.
>>
>>376428280
You can never have enough planks.
>>
>>376416549
I'm still mad theres no Birdo or Diddy, but we get fucking multiple versions of Mario and Peach.
>>
>>376428048
WhereisNabbit/10
>>
>[CHARACTER]
>BABY [CHARACTER]
>METAL [CHARACTER]
>[CHARACTER] WEARING A COSTUME
Considering they have menus for versions of Miis, Inklings, Villagers, Yoshis, etc It seems pretty fucking stupid to have four different versions of Mario and Peach as different slots
>>
>>376433167
>>376426173
>>
>>376416549
>current year
>bitching about a fucking Mario Kart roster
>the fags that always do always want muh obscure character like Petey or Wiggler
Fuck off already. If you have the core Mario characters, its impossible to have a bad Mario Kart roster.
>>
>>376421961

Retarded
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>>376416890
Because they would rather add more palette swaps and literally whos to the game for marketing.
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>>376434204
I think Smash Kart would be pretty cool. Would be an interesting new direction to take the series at any rate. Not sure what else they could do after MK8.
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>>376416549

pretty bloated roster, desu

nintendo needs an editor as bad as kojima
>>
https://youtu.be/_7eoCUrqBk8
200cc time attack almost makes me want to get a Switch. Does anyone think this one will get DLC, or will they finally move on to 9?
>>
IMO, the perfect Mario Kart roster would be Double Dash roster - Paratrooper + Dry Bones, Dry Bowser, and Shy Guy.
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>>376416549
Yes because babies are dumb.
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>>376434508
>Keeping Dry Bowser
gay
>>
>>376437639
>hating Dry Bowser
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>>376416890
Daddy Kong Racing 2 on Switch at E3.
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>>376434508
>Not keeping Baby Mario, Baby Luigi and arguably Baby Peach since they are technically separate characters and have a viable reason to be in the roster.
Baby Daisy and Rosalina can go, along with the Mario costumes, but keep those 3 babies
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>>376418748
>we have to wait until MK10 for Double Dash Rainbow Road as a retro course unless we get lucky with DLC
No problem with GBA RR but it's my least favorite of the bunch.
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>>376418797
>muh wasted slots
your favorite not being in the game has nothing to do with the babies
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>>376422160
>punch out bayonetta crossover
like literally one of the best stages in Wonderful 101
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>>376438271
I didn't say any spots were wasted. I said the roster has an unnecessary amount of bloat, which is true
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>>376427801

If would happily pay for more DLC that would take all the retro tracks from 7

Fuck 7, it's original tracks were so mediocre.
>>
All I wanted was Diddy Kong and Ashley.

No goddamn babies, no fucking metal Peach.
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>>376416549
>Mario
>Green Mario
>Princess Mario
>Princess Green Mario
>Princess Space Mario
>Tanooki Mario
>Cat Princess Mario
>Dino Mario
>Mushroom Mario
>Shell Mario
>Shy Mario
>Goggle Mario
>Mrs. Mushroom Mario
>Ghost Mario
>Baby Mario
>Baby Green Mario
>Baby Princess Mario
>Baby Princess Green Mario
>Baby Princess Space Mario
>Metal Mario
>Pink Gold Princess Mario
>Fat Mario
>Tall Mario
>Black Mario
>Enemy Mario
>Spooky Mario
>Wife's SDon Mario
>Post-Mortem Mario
>Koopalings
>Orange Squid Mario
>Blue Squid Mario
>Zelda Mario
>Animal Crossing Mario
>Pink Hair Animal Crossing Mario
>Isabelle
>Faggot Mario

Why is this roster literally all Mario recolours?
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>>376428280
>Someone wants Ashley in something
>"P-Pedo!"

Fuck off.
>>
>>376439354
>wanting a baby Rosalina clone

Fuck off.
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>>376440143
>Baby Rosalina clone
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>
>>376440240
>has magic powers
Check
>is a small child
Check
>has big eyes
Check
>has a fancy haircut
Check

Face it, Ashley is a baby Rosalina clone and she has no place in the roster.
>>
>>376440484
I've seen people move goalposts before but you bought that goalpost a fucking flight to the north pole, Jesus Christ.
>>
>>376417009
5 hours and no one made a fucking "I count 7" joke
>>
>>376420267
I agree with your choices, I wouldnt mind seeing one of the Paper Mario sidekicks like Bow, or Karrykooper, and candy for Lanky, cranky, or chunky

>>376440484
Who's the little girl living in the comet observatory?
>>
>Diddy was added to Mario Party
>but removed from Mario Kart
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>>376438098
>they announce a new DKR instead of a new F-Zero
i like diddy kong racing but this would hurt my butt like nothing else
>>
>TFW E.Gadd never.
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>>376416549
>Mario
>Gold Mario
>Metal Mario
>Tanooki Mario
>Baby Mario
>Green mario
>Yellow Mario
>Purple Mario
>Baby Green Mario
>any mii that resembles the previously mentioned characters
>Any mii costume from amiibos related to previously mentioned characters
Too many fucking Marios
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>>376416549
There's way too many fucking Koopas but other than that it's fine
>>
>>376421289
Quality over quantity.
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>>376421956
the only babies i can tolerate are baby mario, luigi and peach. the others were unecessary.
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>>376420191
Why not call them jew mario and purple mario?
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I NEED ASHLEY
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